[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2040, Issue 2
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> 1. Re: Loading boat on trailer (Caesar Paul)
> 2. Re: Flag placement? (BenCittadino)
> 3. Re: Flag placement? (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
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> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:47:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
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> I will have to look carefully at my trailer's design.? I know it has the roller, that I think the center board sits on.? Please be careful in launching without the center board cleated in the up position because if it is shallow where and when you are launching ( shallower than the total draft of the boat), the centerboard will hit the ground, and that could be very bad.
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> Caesar
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> From: Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 6:52:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
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> I have a fairly new (2006) Triad trailer and they have remedied that problem.? The roller sits under the keel and so the boat can actually slide back on the trailer without the CB being cleated.? Could also launch the boat without cleating the CB, although I always cleat it.? Forgot once but it didn't matter.
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> Bob K
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>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:19:12 -0500
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
>>
>> Rob,
>> Leaving the centerboard down is the preferred method for loading the
>> boat on the trailer. We have a roller just below the keel guides that
>> the keel rests on. As the boat loads, the centerboard rides on that
>> roller (I doubt it really turns) and slides up into the centerboard
>> trunk. With the centerboard down, you do need to make sure that the
>> boat continues to moves only forward. If for some reason you needed
>> to move the boat back, you would first need to raise and cleat off
>> the centerboard or run the risk of it hanging up on the trailer. Once
>> the boat is loaded you also need to immediately raise and cleat off
>> the line so that the centerboard does not drop the next time you try
>> to launch the boat. We always make sure the centerboard is cleated
>> off as part of our pre-launch checklist.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 08:56 AM 11/17/2009, you wrote:
>>> Mary Lou,
>>> I also broke one of the keel guide boards last year. Same as you,
>>> the keel came to rest on the guide boards and broke when pulling the
>>> trailer out. That's one reason I replaced them last year. My
>>> trailer is a mid 70's (assuming it the same age as the boat) Triad
>>> and doesn't have the keel rollers. I'm very careful now to watch
>>> the boat as she's coming out of the water to make sure she's loaded
>>> correctly. - rob
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:35 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
>>>
>>> Rummy is spot on if you have the center guides below the bunks the
>>> hull rests on. Not sure if all older Rhodes 22 trailers have them.
>>> having the centerboard down will keep the boat centered. Even so, we
>>> once had a sobering experience. We had the centerboard down but when
>>> we pulled the boat out, the very edge of the keel rested on the top
>>> edge of one of the keel guide boards. As Fred started to pull the
>>> boat out, I noticed she was sitting high. Almost immediately and
>>> before I could even say "stop", the guide board splintered and the
>>> boat slammed back down onto the bunks. No damage (amazingly) to
>>> anything but the guide board and the roller the keel rides on. The
>>> centerboard neatly retracted into the trunk. No damage to the hull.
>>> It was a moderately steep ramp and I believe we probably had the
>>> trailer in too deep. Maybe. I wouldn't recommend it. I also believe
>>> we were very lucky there was no further damage. It made a very loud
>>> noise. We now make sure we can see the forward ends of the bunks and
>>> bring the boat out slowly paying attention to how the hull is resting
>>> on the bunks.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:22 PM 11/16/2009, you wrote:
>>>> This is an easy one. My guess is that you tried placing the Rhodes on the
>>>> trailer with the centerboard raised, a mistake many people make. Leave the
>>>> centerboard all the way down and the guides on the trailer will center the
>>>> hull just fine. Just make sure that once on the trailer you pull the
>>>> centerboard line tight and cleat off. Otherwise if you try to launch, the
>>>> centerboard will get hung up and push the centerboard cap upwards,
>>>> breaking it into
>>>> many pieces.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/16/2009 11:34:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> rlowe at vt.edu writes:
>>>>
>>>> We pulled Getaway this weekend, had to take advantage of the 70 degree day
>>>> as we only had two weeks left to get her out of the water. Had a heck of
>>>> a time getting her centered on the trailer. The keel kept landing on top
>>>> of the lower guide bunks and when I started pulling the trailer the boat
>>>> would lean over to the side as the keel settled on the bunk. A
>>>> fellow sailor
>>>> that was observing suggest the swing keel could be hung up and catching so
>>>> donned swim mast and dove under water to check (glad the lake was still
>>>> relatively warm!). Swing keel was fine. Finally got her
>>> centered enough to
>>>> come out straight. Questions. Does anyone use some sort of guides on the
>>>> trailer to aid in centering the boat? My other thought is I replaced the
>>>> all the wood on my trailer last year and perhaps I got the slot
>>> between them
>>>> too narrow. But I thought the guides would center the boat on the
>>>> trailer. Guess I had the trailer in the water too far? How far do you all
>>>> submerge your trailer?!
>>>> I have to about submerge the top bunks so that I can winch the boat far
>>>> enough forward on the trailer. Any feedback welcome. - rob
>>>>
>>>> S/V Getaway
>>>> 1976 Rhodes 22
>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:46:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Flag placement?
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> Hey Rummy;
>
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> BenCittadino
> s/v Susan Kay
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> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>
>> What,
>> What's a traffic lane? I don't believe I've ever seen any lanes marked off
>> on Lake Hartwell. Don't the waves screw up the painted lane markings?
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/17/2009 9:39:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> dwbrad at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Ben, you could use the blocks on your spreader to raise a radar
>> reflector if you were sailing in or near in traffic lanes.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/09, BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My boat came from Stan with a nice little pulley set-up on the
>>> starboard
>>> spreader, but I have been hesitant to fly the US ensign from there
>> because
>>> it is really not "proper". The US ensign goes on the stern staff, or
>>> back
>>> stays as folks have noted. I did see a nice "Mt Gay Rum" burgee once and
>>> thought it would be cool to fly that on the spreader (I don't belong to
>>> a
>>> yacht club). I did think of Rummy when I saw it but since it was in
>> Jersey
>>> on a power boat I figured it couldn't be him. Do we have an R-22 Fleet
>>> burgee I could fly? Anybody have a suggestion for my use of the pulley
>>> on
>>> the spreader (other than to hang pirates)??
>>>
>>> BenCittadino
>>> s/v Susan Kay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> david.walker5 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing meaningless about the US Yacht Ensign. It, along with
>> the
>>>> USPS ensign are completely apprppopriate for US boat.
>>>>
>>>> The US flag from the spreader is known as a courtesy flag. Any boat in
>>>> foreign waters flys the flag of the local country from the stbd
>> spreader
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:10:04
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Flag placement?
>>>>
>>>> Greg,
>>>>
>>>> You don't even need micro blocks. Just cut a piece of the plastic
>> tubing
>>>> used to protect your sails from chafing on the stays to the vertical
>>>> length
>>>> of your flag, then tie the flag to the port back stay with plastic
>>>> cable
>>>> ties at each end of the tubing. Use another piece of tubing to slide
>> and
>>>> support the flag-tubing assembly up the stay a few feet.
>>>>
>>>> I presume you will be flying a standard US flag to show both boat and
>> crew
>>>> are American. If you fly a yacht ensign, it is meaningless.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, flying the US flag from the starboard spreader indicates the boat,
>>>> crew
>>>> or both are not American; but you have registered with Homeland
>> Security.
>>>> If you are not registered, it gives the Coast Guard good reason to
>> board.
>>>> Those of us who sail near what was once the longest fortified border in
>>>> the
>>>> world learn that lesson pretty quick.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Greg PA <baywindgroup at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to have a better way to fly a flag. I have looked in the
>> archives,
>>>>> but
>>>>> really don't want to drill a hole in a spreader. I saw that Bob has
>>>>> his
>>>>> on
>>>>> the backstay of Ruba and that looked like a good spot. With the mast
>> down
>>>>> it
>>>>> will be easy to put a micro blocks high on each stay. Any problems
>>>>> with
>>>>> this
>>>>> or any better ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Greg PA
>>>>> s/v Serenity
>>>>> 79 Rhodes 22
>>>>> North East MD
>>>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:53:20 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Flag placement?
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Ben,
> Great site. I just dropped a $150.00 before I could get out.
>
> Rummy
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> In a message dated 11/18/2009 11:46:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bencittadino at gmail.com writes:
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