[Rhodes22-list] Is it possible to make the R-22 into a cutter?

Rick sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Tue Sep 1 13:40:15 EDT 2009


Lee,

My boat came with genny car tracks that run along the cabin base.  Those are
good close hauled from 15 to 20 knots and furling the 175 genny so it just
goes inside the outer stays.  Lowering the boom above 15 knots and close
hauled eliminates a lot of heel.  A luff pad or CDI furler does a lot to
keep the shape of the furled genny.

To sail close hauled above 20 knots, furl the genny to the lower forwad
stays and use the windward sheet to pull the genny further in toward
center.  At 20 knots, your boom should be down even on a broad reach.

Be at the dock when it blows 30 knots.

Rick

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

>
> David,
>
> I may not be a good source of advice on this because at 20 knots and above
> I
> deploy my iron genny and motor back home.  At that high of a wind I have
> yet
> to figure out how to make much headway into the wind and chop with any
> speed, and sailing becomes more work than fun for me.
>
> In 15 knots of wind on a run you don't need your Genoa at all to surf
> beyond
> the maximal hull rate of 5.99 knots--depending on the waves and current you
> don't even need all of your main.  On a beam reach you can hit the max with
> your main partially reefed and your Genoa significantly reefed.  On a close
> reach you'll do about 3 knots with the boom down and main reefed to 80%
> with
> the Genoa reefed to 80% (from headstay to mast) and the Genoa sheets
> running
> between the shrouds.  Results will vary depending on the conditions but you
> get the general idea.
>
> On a close reach I find the full 175% Genoa effective with a wind between 3
> and 5 knots.  Beyond a 5 knot wind it doesn't help increase my speed unless
> I start falling off the wind to a beam reach.  It's exciting to have all
> the
> Genoa out but you won't go any faster.
>
> If your Genoa is flapping around when you try to reef it in high winds then
> you've waited too long to reef and probably have way too much sail out.
>  You
> should always be able to keep enough tension on your Genoa furling line so
> the sail doesn't flap.
>
> In my opinion, adding a stay would definitely not be worth it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
> Disick, David wrote:
> >
> > Greetings fellow R-22 fans.
> >
> > I sail my 1996 Rhodes 22 mostly in Gardiners Bay, New York.  Up to 15
> > knots or so the 175 Doyle jenny is great, but approaching 20Knots and
> > above, it is terrible and furling to reef doesn't work well.  It flaps
> > and feels as though it will rip apart.  I have tried letting out just a
> > little sail, and that works sometimes, but it would be so much better if
> > I could put up a smaller sail.  Any thoughts on a stay be added behind
> > the forestay so I could run up a sort of storm/working jib for very
> > windy conditions?  I mostly single-hand.  Any comments would be welcome.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > David J. Disick
> >
> > djd at corcoran.com
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