[Rhodes22-list] J. "Stanley" Prufrock

Matthew Porter matthewporter27 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 9 15:34:43 EDT 2010


Eh, I was reaching, but it was either that or: "Like a Rhodes 22 etherized
upon a trailer."

Porter

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Porter:
> "...till human voices wake us, and we drown."
> Although "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" seems (to me) to be more of
> a doubting lament over life passing, the imagery in your excerpt illustrates
> our affinity with the sea. Anyone who has held a tiller against the push of
> a strong wind knows the thrill of joining with the elements to produce a
> desired effect: holding a course or maybe making ready to come about.  The
> feel of every tiny nuance in the ocean's breath, transmitted from the water,
> up the tiller to your hand, then up to your elbow, shoulder, your neck and
> into your anxious wanting brain, is verification of the connection that
> Eliot writes into "Prufrock."  I am sure (if only in theory at this point)
> that the Rhodes 22 is a part of this poem in ways that Eliot never imagined.
> Porter, I agree with you in buckets!
> Stan Spitzer is the poet whose pen has scribed the Rhodes 22 poem.  He told
> me that he is "no poet."  But Stan...poetry is more than just words; it's
> more a dream-communicated.
> Joe
> --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Member (with extras)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:50 AM
>
> Isn't the end of *Prufrock *about the Rhodes 22?
>
> *I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
> Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
> When the wind blows the water white and black.*
>
> Porter
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Elle:
> >      As one English teacher to another (and of course, there is a load of
> > context attached to that association) I want to say thanks for the
> welcome.
> >  The poem has generated quite a bit of strikingly positive commentary.
> >  However, with this group, I think I could have written "Mary had a
> little
> > lamb" and put in "Rhodes 22" someplace and been hailed as the next T.S.
> > Eliot.   Anyway, I appreciate you having taken the time to email, as well
> as
> > the assessments: "beer is good, people are crazy."  Seems I'll fit in
> > nicely.
> > Joe
> >
> > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Member (with extras)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:19 AM
> >
> > Hi, Joe and welcome to 'da list.
> > Your poem was wonderful (former English teacher here...;^). I enjoyed it
> > and hope the mood will strike again & again and you'll send us some more.
> > Lord knows this list could use the culture...(ONLY KIDDING< guys!).
> > You & Chris Cowie need to get together....Chris to illustrate your
> gliding
> > prose with his breathtaking watercolors. What a match!!
> > Again, welcome. After SS, this is 'da place' to find out about all things
> > Rhodes.
> > elle
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Member (with extras)
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:59 AM
> >
> >
> > Rhodes Community:
> >
> >      I am in the process of having Stan recycle a boat for me.  In the
> > process of our communications, he suggested that I introduce myself to
> you
> > all and include a copy of a poem I wrote for him (yeah...a poem).
> >
> >      Currently, I am a cop near Philadelphia, retiring in July. My wife
> and
> > I will move to the Greensboro NC area, where I will be teaching English
> at
> > several area colleges. I'll be putting the boat in on John Kerr Lake,
> north
> > of Greensboro at the end of July / beginning of August.  In the process
> of
> > investigating the Rhodes 22 and communicating with Stan, I became
> > (theoretically) acquainted with the boat's qualities.  Being a writer (in
> > addition to the cop and professor gigs) I felt a compulsion to do
> something
> > that addressed the more esoteric elements the Rhodes offered to its
> owners.
> >
> >      I sent the poem to Stan, and he suggested that I post it here in
> order
> > to get your collective feedback.  Since, as he said, this is your "baby,"
> > you may have some comments (or even suggestions) about the piece.  And,
> as I
> > will be making additions and adjustments to the boat, as my will and
> needs
> > dictate, I would appreciate your informed opinions on these technical
> > matters as well, when these times arrive.
> >
> >      So, here is the poem (below).  I look forward to comments of any
> > color, and to a long (semi) retired span of years sailing this boat,
> getting
> > to know its many benefits and establishing myself as one of this group's
> > dedicated members.  Thanks.
> >
> > Joe Camp
> >
> >      Wasp
> > (for Stan Spitzer)
> >                                                 JJ Camp
> > Flying—almost
> > silent approach never
> > expected; overtaken
> > skipper’s awe
> > obvious in the wake.
> > Elegant sloop quietly
> > glides past
> > to starboard.
> > Effortless
> > essay: full genoa
> > never luffs, despite elusive
> > wind’s teasing kiss.
> > Sturdy twenty-two
> > sails a reach, water
> > rides—rises at her
> > bow cuts like a knife.
> > Errant tell-tail nearly still
> > day, windless noon
> > paints every spar
> > straight at the sun; no
> > boat heels—but one:
> >
> > The Wasp tacks
> > away—main
> > already tight—
> > on a new heading.
> February,
> > 2010
> >
> >
> >
> >
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