[Rhodes22-list] Engine size

KUHN, LELAND LKUHN at cnmc.org
Mon Apr 19 18:31:29 EDT 2010


Hank,

This could work.  If you release the outhaul the boom can remain
centered while the sail is out flapping on the side of the boat.  Now
the only problem is pulling the sail back into the main.  Even on calm
days I keep tension on the outhaul to prevent the sail from jamming.
It's also easier if the sail is lined up with the slot (centered and
slightly to starboard).  

In rough seas and heavy winds it might be easier to motor into the wind.

On the other hand, if your motor won't start this could be a useful
technique.

Lee



-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:41 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engine size

Where you have to pull from is only about 3' from the mast, so, no it is
not
out over the water.  Untie the outhaul from the end of the boom first.

Hank

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:37 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

>
> Hank,
>
> When you spill the wind on the main isn't the end of the boom (and
> outhaul) out over the water?
>
> Lee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
>  Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:31 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engine size
>
> Lee,
>
> I've done it on both the Islander 36 that I used to own and on the
> rhodes.
> Got out in unexpected high winds with the kids and was able to use the
> jib
> to sail, spill the wind on the main and furl her in part way.  Give it
a
> shot.
>
> Hank
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:25 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>
> > Hank,
> >
> > You must be thinking of that big live-aboard you owned!
> >
> > In heavy wind on a Rhodes I won't be pointing for long on jib alone
> and
> > I need the end of the boom in the center (or a hair to starboard) of
> the
> > cockpit to be able to furl in the main.
> >
> > I am going to take your recommendation and see if I can point on the
> > jib.  In light winds with the help of the tiller and a small jib I
> think
> > I could do it, at least until the first wave hits and pushes me
> > downwind.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:15 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engine size
> >
> > Lee,
> >
> > There is another way to furl the main without heading into the wind.
> If
> > your jib is set okay, head up as high as you can point on the jib.
> > Slack
> > off the mainsheet until the boom is into the wind.  You should now
> have
> > pressure only on the Jib and be able to furl in the main as it will
be
> > slack.  Give it a try next time you are out and the winds are light.
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:53 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
wrote:
> >
> > > I have a 9.9 which I think is way too heavy and much more power
than
> I
> > > need.  I've been told that an 8-hp will get you up to our hull
speed
> > of
> > > 5.99 knots which is nice, but not necessary.
> > >
> > > The issue would be foul weather.  Friday evening I got caught in a
> > > 26-knot wind with my full-main deployed.  Reefing early is good
> > > seamanship on any boat but very important on a furling mainsail
that
> > you
> > > can't just drop.  To furl the mainsail away I needed to motor into
> the
> > > wind, which I think a 6-hp would do even with a full flapping
> > mainsail.
> > > Then I needed to head directly into the wind and waves which is a
> > > typical scenario in a storm.  My 9.9-hp was only moving me at 4
> knots
> > in
> > > the heavy chop.  I'm not sure if a 6-hp would move our boats into
> > heavy
> > > weather.
> > >
> > > The art of good seamanship is never having to use seamanship, but
if
> > you
> > > never accidentally get caught in a storm, then you just aren't
> sailing
> > > enough.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Lee
> > > 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> > > Kent Island, MD
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
> Keane
> > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:37 PM
> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engine size
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a 4-hp Mariner and it works fine getting in/out of marina
and
> > > back across bay when winds fails. Would want something bigger for
> long
> > > distance cruising.
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:25:15 -0700
> > > > From: bencittadino at gmail.com
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engine size
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a 9.9hp Yamaha four stroke. A 6hp will work.
Considerations
> > > include
> > > > whether you will be bucking any tides or currents. If you search
> the
> > > > archives (never thought I'd be the one to say that) you will see
> > many
> > > > references to engine sizes. Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > BenC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > cgstetson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > looking for suggestions on engine size ...wondering if a 6 hp
> > would
> > > work
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > >
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