[Rhodes22-list] 82 Rhodes22 for sale
R22RumRunner at aol.com
R22RumRunner at aol.com
Mon Aug 23 14:50:44 EDT 2010
Matthew,
Are you kidding me? Obviously you have never met Stan in person. He makes
gunnery sergeant Ermey look like Elmer Fudd. He never shaves, hardly ever
sleeps, is a known workaholic and drinks way to much coffee. (Again, this is
where he might want to substitute rum for coffee.)
As Elle stated, this is a one or two horse stable. I believe he has earned
the right to be grumpy once in a while. I've discovered the easiest way to
not be on the receiving end of one of his tantrums is to simply not call
him, unless of course, you have a check in hand wanting to purchase a new
R22. I know that would certainly put a smile on my face and change my
disposition. Money is my favorite color.
Rummy
In a message dated 8/23/2010 2:30:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:
Now this is the first reasonable posting I have seen on this subject
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:12:26 -0400
> From: matthewporter27 at gmail.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 82 Rhodes22 for sale
>
> Elle,
>
> I've never called Stan with any questions, I was simply explaining my
view
> on how one could handle such a situation. And yes, I've spent hours on
the
> website. Explaining your business to potential customers shouldn't be a
> considered a hassle, it's marketing.
>
> It wouldn't be difficult or time-consuming to politely redirect a caller
to
> your webiste for "more information on our Certificate of Support
program."
> A pre-recorded message could serve this function.
>
> Everyone's time costs money; their hourly rates just aren't equal. If
> people are calling with too many questions, there is a need that isn't
being
> met. Stan *should* charge to meet this need. I'm just suggesting another
> pricing scheme.
>
> And you shouldn't be irritated when people are calling. They are calling
> because they are interested. If they aren't calling, then you're in
> trouble.
>
> Porter
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:17 PM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Matt,
> > You said
> > "there is a difference between explaining a business policy and
chastizing
> > a potential customer (or any person for that matter) for asking a
question
> > without knowing the complex history of the answer."
> > Do you know that Stan & Rose are sole proprietors? Did you visit the
> > website to get info before calling?? Just his taking the time to
explain the
> > above to you (and how many others in a week???)is a break in the
workflow
> > and costs $$$$.
> > If if were my business I'd probably be irritated also w/people
calling.
> > Sure, it may have been your first call, but believe me, it was not his
> > first.
> >
> > And you have a point....but what you and other newbies don't
understand is
> > that Stan and Rose ARE the business...I doubt that you or any others
would
> > be willing to pay what it would cost him to stop to answer your
questions
> > which may or may not engender other business. Your time...0$...his
> > time...megabucks.....hence the 5% certificate program.
> > You want him to 'pay' you (with his time)to answer your questions, but
> > you're not willing to pay him for the answers.
> >
> > elle
> >
> >
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recycled '06"Watermusic" {Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 82 Rhodes22 for sale
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 12:09 PM
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In the effort to provide a newcomer's perspective, I'd like to point
out
> > that new owners may be unaware that such a debate has been taking
place.
> > As
> > the (broke) new owner of an inherited boat, the cost of a Certificate
is
> > prohibitive, but I would be more than happy to pay for the time of an
> > experienced and knowledgeable Rhodes builder (or even Rhodes captain)
on an
> > hourly basis.
> >
> > And to comment on Elle's response from the other thread, there is a
> > difference between explaining a business policy and chastizing a
potential
> > customer (or any person for that matter) for asking a question without
> > knowing the complex history of the answer.
> >
> > An hourly fee for sage advice would help in two areas. First, the
newcomer
> > may not have any knowledge of how the company operates, or its plan of
> > succession. The Certificate may be valid for a lifetime of sailing,
but as
> > with any small business, the question of who will be there in the
future to
> > provide that advice is important. Second, as with many pay-as-you-go
> > scenarios, the customer often recognizes the true value of the expert's
> > time, and may realize what a deal the Certificate represents.
> >
> > Oh, and to give a brief summary of my first few months with our boat:
she's
> > beautiful and functional; great for the Severn River; perfect for a new
> > sailor/captain; and she sure can take a whack on the bow
pulpit/anchor.
> >
> > Matt Porter
> > '95/recycled '02
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Charles Nieman <
> > blue66corvette at hotmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the explaination ....
> > > not planning on selling anytime soon ....
> > > after all I have only had the boat 15 years ....
> > > still breaking it in!
> > >
> > > > From: stan at rhodes22.com
> > > > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:16:28 -0400
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 82 Rhodes22 for sale
> > > >
> > > > Charles,
> > > >
> > > > it's a phasing-in consideration.
> > > >
> > > > 15 years and you become a pet
> > > > But when and if you go to sell your boat privately, that is a new
ball
> > > game.
> > > >
> > > > Of course you can do as you like, and so can we. So if you elect to
> > sell
> > > your boat privately without going with the C of S program, and tell
the
> > > buyer to call us anytime at home or at the plant, if they have any
> > > questions, from now on we are simply going to re-direct them back to
you.
> > > >
> > > > We think the C of S it is a win, win solution to a growing problem
and
> > > recommend it to private sellers and private buyers. We know some
still
> > think
> > > we are nuts to expect residuals since a boat is not a book or a song
or a
> > > copyrighted photograph, so we continue to be willing to debate this
tired
> > > issue with any takers.
> > > >
> > > > ss/gbi
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Charles Nieman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stan
> > > > > Since I bought a recycled boat from you (albeit fifteen years
ago)
> > does
> > > that mean I have "Certificate of Support" now?..... doe sthe
response and
> > > attention you have been giving me represent what can be expected
with
> > said
> > > certificate?
> > > > >
> > > > >> From: stan at rhodes22.com
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:30:46 -0400
> > > > >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 82 Rhodes22 for sale
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> > > > >> Name: Certificate of Support.jpg
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> > > > >> Desc: not available
> > > > >> Url :
> > >
> >
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> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:15 PM, bobmellor wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I am going to be selling a Rhodes22.. (I currently have two...
> > > selling one,
> > > > >>> keeping one)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 1982 Rhodes22
> > > > >>> standard mast (not IMF)
> > > > >>> single axle triad trailer
> > > > >>> ready to sail
> > > > >>> located in eastern PA
> > > > >>> if interested in purchasing, email rhm at bobmellor.com and I'll
get
> > > back to
> > > > >>> you w/ more detail.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> (I need to look thru archives to get latest on how to get
Stan's
> > new
> > > "cert
> > > > >>> of support" for buyer)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Bob Mellor
> > > > >>> --
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> > > > >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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