[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2098, Issue 1

Andrew Collins sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 17:39:52 EST 2010


John
Good idea
Andrew

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On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:28 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Andrew,
>
> When you replace the coupling  take a rag and some wheel bearing  
> grease
> (very little) and wipe the fitting with it. A light coating should  
> help keep
> the rust off and keep the part working. I don't know if they are  
> available
> in stainless steel but a store that deals in trailer parts might know.
>
> John S
>
>
> Andrew Collins-2 wrote:
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> I suspect my one is defective (bad coating?). In any case it is  
>> simple
>> to replace, but of course this remains on the 'to do' list
>> Andrew
>>
>> Sent from mobile device.
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We have had a similar coupling on each of our Triad trailers.  I
>>> don't recall it rusting but maybe Fred will have something to say
>>> there. We don't use it as we have never actually used the extension.
>>> We do however get the trailer wet twice a year. The current trailer
>>> is 3 years old and the brakes still work.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22 (recycled 1998)
>>> Fretless
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> At 02:43 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
>>>> Mike
>>>> I had Triad add surge Brakes to an older trailer that has the  
>>>> tongue
>>>> extension. There is a flexible rubber hose with a coupling  
>>>> similar to
>>>> the ones on compressed air tools. You leave it connected when
>>>> trailering, and disconnect when you need to use the tongue  
>>>> extended.
>>>> Unfortunately this coupling rusted severely after just one launch  
>>>> and
>>>> has been disconnected since, about 3 years. But it did pass
>>>> inspection
>>>> when new, as brakes are reqd in Ct
>>>> Andrew
>>>> sv Carmen
>>>> 86 recycled 06
>>>>
>>>> Sent from mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:25 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
>>>> <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BigAl,
>>>>>
>>>>> How are your surge brakes plumbed? We were told that it was not
>>>>> possible to
>>>>> add surge brakes on a trailer with a tongue extension.  Is your
>>>>> trailer a
>>>>> Triad?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Alan Robertson"  Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:13 PM
>>>>>> Hi BK.
>>>>>> Wonder if you have electric brakes that are a PITA? I have surges
>>>>>> on our
>>>>>> original '83 Triad Single Axel one and the only maintenance is
>>>>>> filling up
>>>>>> the reservoir with hydraulic fluid and when getting the NY State
>>>>>> required
>>>>>> annual inspection, having the mech. pull a wheel during  
>>>>>> greasing to
>>>>>> see if
>>>>>> any brake parts are rusted out. Of course we've only sailed in
>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>> water. Can definitely feel surge brakes working when applied when
>>>>>> rig is
>>>>>> going down hill. What other maintenance problems have you
>>>>>> experienced?
>>>>>> Big Al -Delmar NY
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Bob Keller<mailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:31 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2098,
>>>>>> Issue 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went from an old single axle with no brakes to a new single  
>>>>>> axle
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> brakes.  The brakes do make a big difference in stopping ability
>>>>>> but they
>>>>>> are a PITA from a maintenance perspective...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:07:51 -0500
>>>>>>> From:
>>>> Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com<mailto:Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22- 
>>>>>>> list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2098,
>>>>>>> Issue 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only towed our R22 one time with a borrowed Ford 350 heavy  
>>>>>>> duty
>>>>>> truck.
>>>>>>> It is a single axle trailer. It towed straight and true.  
>>>>>>> Although
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> only trouble I could foresee was stopping. No brakes on the
>>>>>>> trailer and
>>>>>>> it felt like I couldn't have made a quick stop. Now I've  
>>>>>>> bought a
>>>>>>> '10
>>>>>>> Ford Flex v6 with a trailer package which includes a separate  
>>>>>>> oil
>>>>>> cooler
>>>>>>> for the transmission and a larger radiator for the engine. It is
>>>>>>> rated
>>>>>>> for 4500 pounds towing capacity and I thought that was adequate
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> I hear others using trucks with 6500 capacity I get nervous.
>>>>>>> Most of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> travel would be in relatively flat country, Michigan, western
>>>>>>> Ohio.
>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> is everyone's thought about the braking ability?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Bill Pauer)
>>>>>>> 2. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Alan Robertson)
>>>>>>> 3. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Ellner)
>>>>>>> 4. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>>> (cjlowe at sssnet.com<mailto:cjlowe at sssnet.com>)
>>>>>>> 5. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (James Barron)
>>>>>>> 6. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Mary Lou Troy)
>>>>>>> 7. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Bob Keller)
>>>>>>> 8. elle (stan)
>>>>>>> 9. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Jim Connolly)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:41:12 -0500
>>>>>>> From: Bill Pauer  
>>>>>>> <billpauer at gmail.com<mailto:billpauer at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22- 
>>>>>>> list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>
>>>> <B38A9C0D-70F5-486D-9F72-6F88ACF173DD at gmail.com<mailto:B38A9C0D-70F5-486D-9F72-6F88ACF173DD at gmail.com
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>>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008  
>>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new  
>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:04:55 -0500
>>>>>>> From: "Alan Robertson"  
>>>>>>> <bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota
>>>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>
>>>> <COL119-DS2423ECB4CA77AC97E4F36CFC670 at phx.gbl<mailto:COL119-DS2423ECB4CA77AC97E4F36CFC670 at phx.gbl
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drive in 3rd gear, watch radiator temp. closely, don't have less
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> 400 lb tongue wgt. and don't go over 50. You should be OK
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Bill
>>>>>> Pauer<mailto:billpauer at gmail.com<mailto:billpauer at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22- >>
>>>> list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>
>>>> %3Cmailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:41 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008  
>>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new  
>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
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>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:21:50 -0600
>>>>>>> From: Ellner  
>>>>>>> <ellner at pressenter.com<mailto:ellner at pressenter.com>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota
>>>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>>> Bill Pauer wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008
>>>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new  
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>> I had my single axel trailer converted to a dual, with brakes,  
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> tows beautifully. What is the towing rating for your truck?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:44:12 -0500 (EST)
>>>>>>> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com<mailto:cjlowe at sssnet.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota
>>>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> <4912.24.140.30.102.1263771852.squirrel at quickpop.sssnet.com<mailto:4912.24.140.30.102.1263771852.squirrel at quickpop.sssnet.com
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>> I have a'03 4-runner with a V-8 and a 5000lb tow capacity. I
>>>>>>> bought the
>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>> axle trailer for my Rhodes because of the short wheel base of  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> suv,and
>>>>>>> the extra braking power of the brakes on the extra axle. Most of
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> owners
>>>>>>> figure about 3000lbs for the boat,and about 1000-1400lbs for the
>>>>>>> trailer.
>>>>>>> Check the specs on your truck to see if it is rated for over
>>>>>>> 4000lbs.
>>>>>>> With the 2 axle trailer, the boat placement on the trailer isn't
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> critical to get proper tongue weight.(The single axle needs to
>>>>>>> have the
>>>>>>> boat as far forward as possible,so the tail dosen't wag the  
>>>>>>> dog.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jerry Lowe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008
>>>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new  
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>>> archives
>>>>>>> go
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>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:33:46 -0500
>>>>>>> From: James Barron
>>>>>> <jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com<mailto:jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota
>>>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>
>>>> <01CA97AB.FD8E6590.jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com<mailto:01CA97AB.FD8E6590.jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We towed our Rhodes for two years with a V-6 4Runner, including
>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>> to Cincinnati from Stan's, through the NC mountains. We kept our
>>>>>>> speed down, Stan had the tongue weight just right, and we had no
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Bill Pauer
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:41 PM
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22- 
>>>>>>> list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008  
>>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new  
>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list<http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>>>> archives
>>>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list<http://www.rhodes22.org/list>
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:59:26 -0500
>>>>>>> From: Mary Lou Troy
>>>> <mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net >>> >>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota
>>>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <54.D4.32201.072B35B4 at BL-106<mailto:54.D4.32201.072B35B4 at BL-106>>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>> If your Tacoma is the one that has a 6500 tow rating, you will
>>>>>>> probably be OK. We tow ours with a Nissan Frontier 2WD with a  
>>>>>>> 6300
>>>>>>> tow rating. It tows a heck of a lot better than our old Chev.
>>>>>>> Blazer
>>>>>>> (5000 tow rating) but we did that for years without any
>>>>>>> problems. If
>>>>>>> we had been towing in the mountains, we would have wanted
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> with more oomph but on the flat and on I-95 it was fine. You'll
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> a trailer with brakes and you'll want to be cognizant of how  
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> stuff you are loading in the truck and bo
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