[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2098, Issue 1

Andrew Collins sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 17:44:10 EST 2010 

Mike
Yes, the lines are filled with brake fluid
Seizing is a definite possibility. Fortunatel I only trailer from the  
ramp to winter storage, about 200 yards
Andrew

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On Jan 19, 2010, at 7:08 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"  
<mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> What is in the line?  I assume it is filled with hydraulic fluid.  The
> disconnects would need to seal both ends against water, something  
> that a
> compressed air tool connector does not do (only one side is  
> sealed.)  If
> they rusted that quickly they were probably very cheap and should be
> replaced at your earliest convenience since they probably do not  
> keep water
> out of the line either.  BTW, even if you do not use the brakes, you  
> need to
> check the drum/shoe interface to make sure that they do not seize up  
> like
> Art's brake did.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Andrew Collins"  Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:43 PM
>> Mike
>> I had Triad add surge Brakes to an older trailer that has the tongue
>> extension. There is a flexible rubber hose with a coupling similar to
>> the ones on compressed air tools. You leave it connected when
>> trailering, and disconnect when you need to use the tongue extended.
>> Unfortunately this coupling rusted severely after just one launch and
>> has been disconnected since, about 3 years. But it did pass  
>> inspection
>> when new, as brakes are reqd in Ct
>> Andrew
>> sv Carmen
>> 86 recycled 06
>>
>> Sent from mobile device.
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:25 PM, "Michael D. Weisner"
>> <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> BigAl,
>>>
>>> How are your surge brakes plumbed? We were told that it was not
>>> possible to
>>> add surge brakes on a trailer with a tongue extension.  Is your
>>> trailer a
>>> Triad?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Alan Robertson"  Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:13 PM
>>>> Hi BK.
>>>> Wonder if you have electric brakes that are a PITA? I have surges
>>>> on our
>>>> original '83 Triad Single Axel one and the only maintenance is
>>>> filling up
>>>> the reservoir with hydraulic fluid and when getting the NY State
>>>> required
>>>> annual inspection, having the mech. pull a wheel during greasing to
>>>> see if
>>>> any brake parts are rusted out. Of course we've only sailed in  
>>>> fresh
>>>> water. Can definitely feel surge brakes working when applied when
>>>> rig is
>>>> going down hill. What other maintenance problems have you
>>>> experienced?
>>>> Big Al -Delmar NY
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Bob Keller<mailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2098,  
>>>> Issue 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I went from an old single axle with no brakes to a new single axle
>>>> with
>>>> brakes.  The brakes do make a big difference in stopping ability
>>>> but they
>>>> are a PITA from a maintenance perspective...
>>>>
>>>> BK
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:07:51 -0500
>>>>> From: Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com<mailto:Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2098,  
>>>>> Issue 1
>>>>>
>>>>> I only towed our R22 one time with a borrowed Ford 350 heavy duty
>>>> truck.
>>>>> It is a single axle trailer. It towed straight and true. Although
>>>>> the
>>>>> only trouble I could foresee was stopping. No brakes on the
>>>>> trailer and
>>>>> it felt like I couldn't have made a quick stop. Now I've bought a
>>>>> '10
>>>>> Ford Flex v6 with a trailer package which includes a separate oil
>>>> cooler
>>>>> for the transmission and a larger radiator for the engine. It is
>>>>> rated
>>>>> for 4500 pounds towing capacity and I thought that was adequate  
>>>>> but
>>>> when
>>>>> I hear others using trucks with 6500 capacity I get nervous.  
>>>>> Most of
>>>> the
>>>>> travel would be in relatively flat country, Michigan, western  
>>>>> Ohio.
>>>> What
>>>>> is everyone's thought about the braking ability?
>>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>> 1. towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Bill Pauer)
>>>>> 2. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Alan Robertson)
>>>>> 3. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Ellner)
>>>>> 4. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>> (cjlowe at sssnet.com<mailto:cjlowe at sssnet.com>)
>>>>> 5. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (James Barron)
>>>>> 6. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Mary Lou Troy)
>>>>> 7. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Bob Keller)
>>>>> 8. elle (stan)
>>>>> 9. Re: towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma? (Jim Connolly)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
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>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:41:12 -0500
>>>>> From: Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com<mailto:billpauer at gmail.com>>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>
>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before  
>>>>> getting
>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has  
>>>>> experienced
>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008 Tacoma
>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour  
>>>>> away.
>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new boat
>>>>> and
>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:04:55 -0500
>>>>> From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota  
>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Drive in 3rd gear, watch radiator temp. closely, don't have less
>>>>> than
>>>>> 400 lb tongue wgt. and don't go over 50. You should be OK
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Bill
>>>> Pauer<mailto:billpauer at gmail.com<mailto:billpauer at gmail.com>>
>>>>> To:
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-
>>>> list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> %3Cmailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before  
>>>>> getting
>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has  
>>>>> experienced
>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008 Tacoma
>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour  
>>>>> away.
>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new boat
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>> Thanks, Bill
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>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:21:50 -0600
>>>>> From: Ellner <ellner at pressenter.com<mailto:ellner at pressenter.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota  
>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
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>>>>> Bill Pauer wrote:
>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008  
>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new boat
>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>> I had my single axel trailer converted to a dual, with brakes, and
>>>>> it
>>>>> tows beautifully. What is the towing rating for your truck?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:44:12 -0500 (EST)
>>>>> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com<mailto:cjlowe at sssnet.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota  
>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>
>>>> <4912.24.140.30.102.1263771852.squirrel at quickpop.sssnet.com<mailto:4912.24.140.30.102.1263771852.squirrel at quickpop.sssnet.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>> I have a'03 4-runner with a V-8 and a 5000lb tow capacity. I
>>>>> bought the
>>>>> 2
>>>>> axle trailer for my Rhodes because of the short wheel base of the
>>>>> suv,and
>>>>> the extra braking power of the brakes on the extra axle. Most of  
>>>>> us
>>>>> owners
>>>>> figure about 3000lbs for the boat,and about 1000-1400lbs for the
>>>>> trailer.
>>>>> Check the specs on your truck to see if it is rated for over
>>>>> 4000lbs.
>>>>> With the 2 axle trailer, the boat placement on the trailer isn't  
>>>>> as
>>>>> critical to get proper tongue weight.(The single axle needs to
>>>>> have the
>>>>> boat as far forward as possible,so the tail dosen't wag the dog.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry Lowe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before  
>>>>> getting
>>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has
>>>>>> experienced
>>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008  
>>>>>> Tacoma
>>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new boat
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list<http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>> archives
>>>>> go
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>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:33:46 -0500
>>>>> From: James Barron
>>>> <jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com<mailto:jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota  
>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <01CA97AB.FD8E6590.jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com<mailto:01CA97AB.FD8E6590.jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> We towed our Rhodes for two years with a V-6 4Runner, including  
>>>>> home
>>>>> to Cincinnati from Stan's, through the NC mountains. We kept our
>>>>> speed down, Stan had the tongue weight just right, and we had no
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bill Pauer
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:41 PM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota Tacoma?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before  
>>>>> getting
>>>>> too far down this road I want to know if anyone else has  
>>>>> experienced
>>>>> towing a Rhodes 22 with a Toyota Tacoma. My truck is a 2008 Tacoma
>>>>> 4x4 w/ a 6-cylinder and tow package. I live in the mountains of
>>>>> western North Carolina and the closest "real" water is an hour  
>>>>> away.
>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? I am not sure I can swing a new boat
>>>>> and
>>>>> a new truck.
>>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list<http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>> archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list<http://www.rhodes22.org/list>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:59:26 -0500
>>>>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] towing a Rhodes 22 w/ a Toyota  
>>>>> Tacoma?
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <54.D4.32201.072B35B4 at BL-106<mailto:54.D4.32201.072B35B4 at BL-106>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>> If your Tacoma is the one that has a 6500 tow rating, you will
>>>>> probably be OK. We tow ours with a Nissan Frontier 2WD with a 6300
>>>>> tow rating. It tows a heck of a lot better than our old Chev.  
>>>>> Blazer
>>>>> (5000 tow rating) but we did that for years without any  
>>>>> problems. If
>>>>> we had been towing in the mountains, we would have wanted  
>>>>> something
>>>>> with more oomph but on the flat and on I-95 it was fine. You'll  
>>>>> want
>>>>> a trailer with brakes and you'll want to be cognizant of how much
>>>>> stuff you are loading in the truck and boat for towing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 05:41 PM 1/17/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>> I have just about talked myself into a Rhodes 22, but before

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