[Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC

Hank hnw555 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 3 12:48:06 EDT 2010


If the switch is wired correctly, the batteries are not wired together.  The
attached pdf shows the wiring for a simple Blue Sea switch.

Hank

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> You may be right, I'm not sure.  But my understanding is that since the
> batteries are wired to together anyway, their charge will equalize so it
> doesn't really matter?
>
> BK
>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:26:46 -0400
> > From: hnw555 at gmail.com
>  > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> >
> > Actually, if they are wired to the switch correctly, they are only in
> > parallel when you select "both" on the switch. When selecting either "1"
> or
> > "2" they are isolated from each other.
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Bob Keller <
> r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Good information. My batteries are wired in parallel.
> > >
> > > BK
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:23:54 -0500
> > > > From: geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> > > >
> > > > Here's a good explanation:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.zbattery.com/Connecting-Batteries-in-Series-or-Parallel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Actually after a little more thought if both batteries are charged
> > > > > then it will appear as if it makes no difference. To test it,
> > > > > disconnect the negative lead from one battery and then check the
> > > > > switch positions. You should be able to confirm that each battery
> is
> > > > > hooked up to a different side of the switch.
> > > > >
> > > > > I always used one battery for starting and the other as a house
> > > > > battery. This ensured that I didn't run them down too far to start
> the
> > > > > engine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hank
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/2/10, Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rik,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe you are right. I cannot isolate one from the other, I have
> a
> > > two
> > > > > > battery bank. When my battery switch is on "1" "2" or "both" it
> makes
> > > no
> > > > > > difference. Does that sound like parallel or series?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BK
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:42:58 -0500
> > > > > >> From: sanderico1 at gmail.com
> > > > > >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Unless you are operating a 24 volt system, your batteries are
> hooked
> > > up
> > > > > in
> > > > > >> parallel (pos to pos, neg to neg)...... NOT series.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2, 12 volt batteries wired in series yields 24 volts.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Rik
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Bob Keller
> > > > > >> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Bob,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I have two group 27 batteries - they are the inexpensive ones
> from
> > > > > >> > Wal-Mart
> > > > > >> > and are around 4 years old. They are hooked up in series and I
> > > have
> > > > > two
> > > > > >> > solar panels charging them. In addition, when the motor is
> running
> > > > > they
> > > > > >> > are
> > > > > >> > being charged. Will have to see how much drain the fridge
> causes
> > > on
> > > > > them
> > > > > >> > and if it is an issue I may replace these with AGM batteries.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > BK
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:44:08 -0700
> > > > > >> > > From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net
> > > > > >> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Bob K: Many thanks. We got spoiled during the five years
> between
> > > our
> > > > > >> > > '86
> > > > > >> > R22 and our '10 R22 with the refrigeration on the '84 Tartan
> 37.
> > > Nice
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > just reach in and grab a cold drink without worrying about
> ice.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Will look forward to hearing how she does for you next
> season.
> > > Did
> > > > > you
> > > > > >> > increase battery power? How many batteries are you using?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Bob Q
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > > > >> > > From: Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >> > > Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 7:41:13 PM
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Bob,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Attached are some pictures. It looks to have more usable
> space
> > > than
> > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > >> > old icebox. Not twice as big, but definitely bigger.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Actual model number is: CR0065 NV567
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > It is 2.3 cu ft. and the power consumption is 0.7/2.7
> > > > > >> > > (average/maximum).
> > > > > >> > This is available at http://sailorsams.com but I found it for
> > > less at
> > > > > a
> > > > > >> > local dealer.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Will definitely report on the performance once the fall
> comes
> > > and I
> > > > > am
> > > > > >> > back to sailing again.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > BK
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Yankee Clipper
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:36:42 -0700
> > > > > >> > > > From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net
> > > > > >> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Bob: Would most definitely be interested in photos and a
> > > report on
> > > > > >> > > > how
> > > > > >> > she functions next season.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Bob in FL
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >> > > > From: Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >> > > > Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 9:12:19 PM
> > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fridge in the YC
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Well, as of today, the Yankee Clipper has refrigeration!
> Been
> > > > > >> > > > talking
> > > > > >> > about it and considering for some time and the last week-long
> > > cruise
> > > > > we
> > > > > >> > went
> > > > > >> > on convinced me. Reading the archives, some had recommended
> the
> > > Indel
> > > > > >> > Marine
> > > > > >> > Isotherm refrigerator but knowing nothing about them or the
> > > subject in
> > > > > >> > general I really did not have a clue. Researched it quite a
> bit on
> > > the
> > > > > >> > internet, talked to several (so-called) pros and was still
> unsure.
> > > > > >> > Finally
> > > > > >> > found a guy in Savannah who specializes in marine
> refrigeration -
> > > that
> > > > > >> > is
> > > > > >> > all he does! Talked with him and he agreed that the Isotherm
> was a
> > > > > good,
> > > > > >> > high quality choice. Compared to some competing brands that
> cost
> > > less,
> > > > > >> > he
> > > > > >> > said the Isotherm is a great unit: reliable, energy efficient
> etc.
> > > So
> > > > > he
> > > > > >> > came to look at the boat and said "piece of cake" about the
> > > install.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >> > got
> > > > > >> > the unit and installed it this week with no problem at all.
> Took
> > > him 2
> > > > > >> > hours, but then he knew what he was doing.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I got the Isotherm CR 65 model and if anyone is interested
> I
> > > will
> > > > > >> > > > post
> > > > > >> > the exact model number. It was $892 delivered and fits
> perfectly
> > > where
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > old icebox was. This was the largest model that fit the
> dimensions
> > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > >> > will also post some pictures later if you want to see it. This
> > > little
> > > > > >> > fridge
> > > > > >> > also has a small freezer unit. It is set up to run off the
> > > batteries
> > > > > >> > (two
> > > > > >> > group 27) when you flip the switch and if you plug into shore
> > > power it
> > > > > >> > will
> > > > > >> > run off of that by just turning off the switch.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > The problem is that I really can't give anyone a review as
> to
> > > how
> > > > > it
> > > > > >> > works because it is not sailing season here in south Georgia.
> The
> > > boat
> > > > > >> > is on
> > > > > >> > the trailer until mid-September because it is just too hot to
> sail
> > > > > down
> > > > > >> > here
> > > > > >> > now. Summer is power boat season. However, I did keep the
> fridge
> > > > > running
> > > > > >> > off
> > > > > >> > the batteries for about 4 hours and I was amazed becuase the
> > > battery
> > > > > >> > volt
> > > > > >> > meter started on 12.5 volts and it never moved. Of course I
> have
> > > two
> > > > > >> > solar
> > > > > >> > panels and this was during the day so maybe at night it would
> > > drain
> > > > > them
> > > > > >> > more-I don't know. But that was encouraging because the fridge
> and
> > > > > >> > freezer
> > > > > >> > were very cold and the battery charge did not change in 4
> hours.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Will pass on some pics soon but a full review will have to
> > > wait
> > > > > >> > > > until
> > > > > >> > September when it is sailing season again.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Bob K
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Yankee Clipper
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
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