[Rhodes22-list] Sorry to bring this subject up

[Mary Lou Troy]

Sounds like you are a good candidate for an R22 with a porta-potty. 
I'm assuming porta potties comply with the Alabama law.

There are porta-potties that can be plumbed for pump-out. I'm not 
quite sure how that works but there was a description involving a 
Dometic marine head on the Trailer Sailor Bulletin Board a while 
back. That sort of arrangement is evidently required in Canada and in 
some mooring fields in FL.

On Fretless, we have a semi-enclosed head with a porta-potty. The 
head is behind the cabin bulkhead and there is a curtain on a swing 
arm that screens off the area. We do not have the hinged door common 
on newer R22s. We use the boat for cruising and daysailing and are 
pleased with the arrangement. It's simple and if it ever breaks you 
can easily replace it at a relatively low cost. Actually the water 
pump bellows on our original one developed a break and we replaced it 
with the same model so we now have two holding tanks - handy when 
cruising. You would want one that latches down.

It sounds like the Alabama law is trying to encourage pumpout 
facilities. If there are marinas in your area, some will have pumpout 
facilities. If you had a regular MSD and holding tank, you would have 
to find the one nearest your location.

Best,
Mary Lou




At 08:07 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote:
>Okay, I'm putting together my wish list for Stan for a Rhodes 22. I'm really
>confused about the whole MSD thing. I'll be mainly day sailing. Will I even
>use the head with the holding tank? My slip location doesn't have a pump-out
>facility. So, how would I empty it? I'll be sailing in Mobile Bay or
>Pensacola Bay or Perdido Bay, or, if I venture into the ocean, I'll be close
>to shore. So, the way I understand the law is that I can't discharge
>overboard, even if treated. When would I use the macerator? Do I even want a
>macerator?
>
>I know I'm all over the place with this post. What do you all do (no pun
>intended) in this regard?
>
>I'm thinking that I would have a Rhodes 22 with a Type III MSD but for 99.9%
>of the time I would just use a portable toilet and not even use the Rhodes'
>head.
>
>Also, I'm wondering if having a Type III MSD might severely limit where I
>could moor my boat (in Alabama)  given what I have been reading about the
>Alabama Clean Boating Act, a portion of which is (see the last paragraph):
>
>*
>
>7. Marine Sanitation Devices (MSDs)
>*
>
>Effective October 1, 2003, the new Marine Sanitation Act 2002-59 or Clean
>Boating Bill makes
>
>the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources responsible for
>enforcing boat sewage
>
>discharges. When the Act is fully implemented, the Department of
>Conservation and Natural
>
>Resources will inspect marine sanitation devices on both recreational and
>residence vessels
>
>and issue yearly MSD inspection decals.
>
>Recreational boats with installed toilet facilities must have an operable
>USCG-certified marine
>
>sanitation device onboard. All boats 65 feet in length and under may use a
>Type I, II, or III
>
>MSD. Boats over 65 feet must install a Type II or III MSD.
>
>*Vessels with a Type III MSD are prohibited (except in an emergency) from
>docking, storing,*
>
>*anchoring, or mooring at marinas unless the marina has a pump-out or waste
>disposal system.*
>
>*It is illegal to discharge untreated sewage into the waters of the state or
>within 9 miles of the*
>
>*coastline in the Gulf of Mexico.*
>
>
>
>Any thoughts are appreciated. I waited late in the day to post this so most
>of you would have already had your Sunday dinners. Thanks, Geoff
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