[Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail... Everything I had hoped for and more!

[David Culp]

I think there is a misunderstanding here.  I have seen hull speed one
time in my Rhodes.  That was with a Flying Scot jib tied on the my
forestay in 20+ winds with one other person on board and we were both
out on the rail.  It was an experiment we were doing that showed me
that size doesn't matter when you have the wind.  Hold a hanky up in a
hurricane for instance.

I was referring to how the Portsmouth handicapping tables are
calculated for the Rhodes 22 since it doesn't specify a sail plan for
our boat.  I was just musing that I should be able to use any sails in
a race and still be legal unless I can get the boat to plane and
exceed hull speed.

The UPS sail is good for two situations.  Very light winds when the
175% won't fly correctly.  The other is downwind as Lee says.

I don't utilize the 175% enough, so I'm dropping it back to a 135 for
working upwind and supplementing it with the UPS for lighter wind days
when I would wish for something bigger.

I think cruiser sailors are usually looking for the best compromise.
If you are out in bays with room to maneuver, I still think the 175 is
the way to go.  If you get to sail on beam and broad reaches a fair
amount, I still think the 175 is the way to go.  If you want to run
the jib inside the shrouds on windy days without have a big fat roll
on the forestay, you may have to rethink it.  The money is the issue.
I have 1100.00 more dollars invested then you do in your sails, but I
have to do the later quite often.

If you are looking to supplement the 175 or a smaller jib, the UPS
works well.  The UPS sail requires a little more work to set up, but
it is much easier to tack underway then the 175.  The 175 can be a big
tent when the wind is light.  Also, the UPS will keep you from having
to start the motor so often and you can make the most of the wind you
have.  I can sail now when I couldn't before.  I haven't found it to
be that much extra work.  You rig it on the days you need it and if
the wind picks up, you drop it and use the genny.  It's just another
tool in the bag to make our boat even more versatile.





Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:02:33 -0400
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
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Lee,

Well, you're hearing from me.  Mainly because I'm cheap and lazy.

The UPS is probably the easiest asymmetrical to deploy, but it is still
something extra to do.  I haven't found it any easier or faster than my 175
genny.

Except sailing on a full downwind run with the UPS paired wing-on-wing with
the genny (forget the main).  Then you can go at wind speed until it exceeds
hull speed.

Given the infrequency of down wind runs during my usual day sails, I wish I
spent my $1000 on something more useful.

Rick

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:45 AM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

> dc,
>
> I'm jealous!  I haven't heard from anyone who's regretted getting a UPS.
>
> Good luck with the race.  My boat doesn't go hull speed most of the time
> and when it does I think it's more luck than skill.  Wind was perfect today
> and I couldn't get out.  I can go sailing tomorrow afternoon with a wind
> prediction of 1 mph.  Guess I could hit hull speed with the old iron genny.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of David Culp
> Sent: Sun 5/16/2010 12:21 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail... Everything I had hoped for and more!
>
>
>
> I am updating our group about my new UPS sail that I have installed
> this season as I said I would.  Today was one of those days where the
> wind is 10 knots and then it's 5.... Up and down, up and down.  Nary a
> problem-I was leaving a wake going down the lake most of the way.  And
> it is fun too, because you can play it like a spinnaker if you want
> to.  Sailing is always fun, but it was extra fun today!  Racing
> tomorrow in light winds, should I tell them that it's an illegal sail?
>  Which reminds me... They are going to use Portsmouth handicapping and
> it doesn't specify the sail plan for our boat, so what is "illegal"?
> Our boat will go hull speed and that's it most of the time.  The skill
> is in getting it there.... Right?
>
> dc