[Rhodes22-list] R22 vrs 26RK

[peter klappert]

 Mary & Stephen 

Thanks to each of you. This message is really just a marker to say I hope to reply more (or ask more) later.

I'm headed from DC up to CT tomorrow (looks like I may be driving much of the way in a northeaster) for the weekend. I'm also trying to get ready to drive back to FL just as soon as the D C Regulatory Authority stops torturing me. So I can't be expansive here.

Certainly with the wheel (which Hake tries to sell you) there's no comparison vis-a-vis cockpit roominess, & I agree: that's where you live on board. Also, Stan has invented many options that, as Stephen says, can make the cockpit into cabin space.

Had a long phone conversation last night with a former R22 owner who now has the 26RK, and he made the case for the Rhodes (for me, not for him) in a forceful way. 

Over the last 40 years I've had many many close friends who were in their 80s and 90s, really vital, highly intelligent people, most of whom remained physically strong & active. So I have a weakness there. I like Stan and Elton a great deal, but I've been trying to not let that influence me. And quite aside from that, it's my nature to research stuff a lot and hem & haw enroute to a decision. I'm grateful for all the advice thus far and hope I'll get more.

I expect to detour to Edenton (I've been to the factory once) on my way to FL, to see what Stan has available for recycling.

P

  


                        >>>>o<<<<

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"You make me sick with all your talk about restraint and mature talent!
Haven't you ever looked out the window at a painting by Matisse,
Or did you always stay in hotels where there were too many spiders
     crawling on your visages?
Did you ever glance inside a bottle of sparkling pop,
Or see a citizen split in two by lightning?
I am afraid you have never smiled at the hibernation
Of bear cubs except that you saw in it some deep relation
To human suffering and wishes, oh what a bunch of crackpots!"
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"He's right! Why should we be organized to defend the kingdom
Of dullness? There are so many slimy people connected with poetry,
Too, and people who know nothing about it!
I am not recommending that poets like each other and organize to
     fight them,
But simply that lightning should strike them."
Then the assembled mediocrities shot arrows at the blond-haired man.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 5:22:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 vrs 26RK

Peter,

I second Mary's comments about cockpit comfort. The cockpit is where  
you really "live" on a sailboat & the Rhodes is unbeatable. The dining  
table mount in the cockpit is another nice touch. My wife & I sit at  
our mooring @ sunset w a full spread of hor'dourves & cocktails. Our  
guests are always delighted! Also, the pop top & canvas cover give you  
the standing headroom you desire (albeit small & cozy).  We sleep  
either on the double in the salon or on our king size cockpit bed  
under the stars, weather depending.

I have become a real advocate of "kiss". Keep it simple... Sail more -  
fix less.
I nixed the 12v water pump for a foot pump (15 gal lasts all season @  
1 oz/pump), have the original rope & pulley assisted engine lift,  
added a 5 HP Briggs & Stratton outboard (air cooled & pull cord  
starter), added solar battery charger this year & use hand held VHF &  
GPS. I feel I have all the comforts of a bigger boat without the costs  
& maintenance.

It sounds like you have a lot of single handed sailing in your future.  
The Rhodes is very hard to beat when solo. The furling sails &  
convenient jib & main sheet locations add up to an easy & relaxing  
experience.

Good luck whatever you choose.

Stephen Staum
87 R22, Carol Lee
Needham, MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Bet the 26RK cockpit isn't nearly as comfortable as the R22 even if
> it's comparable in size. The open area under the cockpits, the angle
> of the cockpit sides and the cabin wall make for the most comfortable
> seating of any boat I've ever been on though I don't recall ever
> sitting in the cockpit of the 26RK so I can't compare directly. The
> only criticism I've ever made of the R22 cockpit is that for us
> short-legged folks there isn't a good way to brace yourself when you
> are heeling way over without perching on the edge of the seat. Small
> price to pay for the exceptionally comfortable in every other way  
> cockpit.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> At 12:42 PM 10/10/2010, you wrote:
>
>> I think I looked into the Hunter 27 but didn't go further because of
>> the problem of trailering. I don't know enough about Hunters to have
>> an opinion, but I've met a few owners of larger boats (30'-40') who
>> criticize Hunter for the quality of their workmanship.
>>
>> At the last Annapolis show I attended (2008) I looked over the
>> Hunter Edge, which they bill as a motorsailer & which is obviously
>> designed to compete with Macgregor. The Edge is water ballast, too.
>> Not a graceful-looking boat. It too has a steep companionway to a
>> very generous and, in the boat show version, nicely appointed cabin.
>> Lots of headroom--might be just the boat for basketball players who
>> sail. I don't expect to tow any water-skiers & so I don't feel a
>> need for 75 hp. Also, you have to scramble over the cabin to get
>> forward on deck, the price paid for so much room below.
>>
>> BTW, the cockpit on the 26RK compares well with the Rhodes,
>> particularly if you forego a wheel (classy as that looks)& use a  
>> tiller.
>>
>>
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