[Rhodes22-list] Boat Buying as Democracy

peter klappert peterklappert at comcast.net
Fri Feb 4 12:37:28 EST 2011 

Mercy beans to everyone who responded to my questions about hull and cockpit colors. 

As a child of the 60s I'd about settled on a psychedelic paisley, but then I remembered my age & went for charcoal gray herringbone.

Actually, I have this knack for complicating anything & am still trying to decide. Geoff's new white R22 is so handsome, I'd be happy with something like that. But for sentimental reasons I lean toward a green (Awlcraft Forest Green) which Stan doesn't offer. Tune in again tomorrow, or the next day, or...

Thanx again,

P


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----- Original Message -----
From: "William E Wickman" <WEWickman at spectraenergy.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:37:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question

I have a dark blue hull and have never felt that it made the cabin hot at all, and I've had the boat in some pretty warm areas (South Florida, etc.).  It's my feeling that water temperature probably has more of a bearing on hull and cabin temperature than the hull color (though air temp will trump everything).  Besides, most of the Rhodes hulls are covered with carpet in the cabin area which adds an additional layer of insulation.

Regarding, fading.  My original gelcoat did fade, but after Stan repainted with an awlgrip type epoxy it has looked shiny ever since.  It's also a lot harder/tougher finish than gelcoat.

Bahama Bill
s/v Fina Lee 


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of peter klappert
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:53 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull & cockpit color question


What a gorgeous new R22, Geoff!

I'm about to order mine and need to decide hull color. Geoff's boat has me reconsidering, but unlike Mary Lou, I lean toward something other than white.

Lots of folks say (claim?) a dark color makes the cabin hot, even if the deck & cockpit are white. Is that true? Does anyone regret buying a colored hull for this--or any--reason? 

Mary Lou: since you have a white hull but a blue cockpit (navy? royal?), do you find the cockpit gets hot to sit in? 

This is especially important as I'll keep the R22 in Florida. 

Also, does anyone have experience with one of the deck surfaces that look like wood (or try to look like wood)? I saw something called New Teak in Annapolis, but there are other brands, too.

Thanx,

P 



SONG

I could tell
Of silence where
One ran before
Himself and fell
Into silence
Yet more fair.

      --Yvor Winters

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:01:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait

Geoff,
Great looking boat.

I really like the look of a white Rhodes. Fretless before recycling 
was a blue boat. The gelcoat had faded badly. Stan described the 
color as "an experiment that didn't work well". When he told us he 
had this boat available, he said he was going to paint her and asked 
what color we would like. We said we had been thinking about a white 
boat but we weren't too sure about putting white paint over blue 
gelcoat. Stan said he didn't think it would be a problem and 12 years 
later the boat still looks great. The bonus is that we got a blue 
gelcoat cockpit (easy on the eyes in bright sun and doesn't show as 
much dirt) as we decided that painting surfaces we walked on wouldn't 
be such a good idea.

Enjoy!

Mary Lou
1991 R22  Fretless
recycled in 1998
Rock Hall, MD




At 08:55 AM 1/31/2011, you wrote:
>Thanks Bob. Yes, it's new. I will probably take advantage of your offer of
>stepping help. I won't be doing the BEER cruise because we'll be back in WI
>by late April this year.
>
>Dave, I believe I did get the instructions from Stan. I just haven't read
>his literature yet. About the motor, I meant I would start it after hooking
>it up to the hose. But, thanks for the warning, because I have done way more
>stupider things then that!
>
>On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Geoff, I hope you gave many great years with your boat.
> >
> > Did you not get the written instructions from Stan for stepping and
> > unstepping the mast?
> >
> > Did you mention that you were starting the motor with the boat on the
> > trailer?  Not letting it run I hope.  It needs to be in the water to cool
> > the engine when running.
> >
> > Best to you,
> >
> > David Bradley
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Geoff,
> > > Congratulations!  Is the boat new because it looks it?  The
> > stepping/unstepping procedure is very intimidating at first but after a few
> > hundred times it will be like second nature.  Best advice I ever got was:
> > before you do anything, just ask yourself "what will be holding up the
> > mast?"  Works every time because if you can't figure that out then don't do
> > it!
> > >
> > > Best of luck.  If you ever need advice about stepping/unstepping please
> > ask because I have learned many shortcuts over the years.
> > >
> > > BTW, are you going to do the BEER cruise this year-it is out of Pensacola
> > first week of June?
> > >
> > > http://www.sailingpensacola.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=680
> > >
> > > Bob K
> > > Yankee Clipper
> > >
> > >> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:40:12 -0600
> > >> From: geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com
> > >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can't wait
> > >>
> > >> We got back to Gulf Shores on Thursday PM. Total trip was about 18
> > hours. I
> > >> never drove over about 60 and was totally freaked after first leaving
> > >> Stan's. Here I am driving on the highway with all these other vehicles
> > and I
> > >> have this beautiful boat behind me that anyone on the road could smash
> > into
> > >> if they happen to receive a text message that they just can't resist
> > reading
> > >> while I'm slowing down for traffic. Whew! And, there do seem to be many
> > >> people on the highway staring down at their lap smiling. My assumption
> > has
> > >> always been that they are reading a text message; although; it's
> > entirely
> > >> possible that they're staring at something else in their lap and that's
> > >> what's producing the smiles (at least the men). Not that there's
> > anything
> > >> wrong with that, but, certainly not while driving.
> > >>
> > >> Every time I glanced at my rear view mirror I said to myself, "holy
> > crap,
> > >> I've actually finally done this thing that I've been dreaming about for
> > ages
> > >> (actually, my first reaction was always "who is that a$$hole tailgating
> > me
> > >> so closely? Oh wait, that's not a tailgater, that's my boat."). It's
> > >> amazing, though, that after a few hours of driving I finally settled
> > down
> > >> and actually spent more time looking through my front windshield than my
> > >> rear view mirror. The F150 handled the towing fine. The extra weight I
> > >> carried by towing the boat was offset by the lightness of my wallet
> > after
> > >> paying Stan.
> > >>
> > >> Stan's crew did a great job prepping the boat for trailering. Everything
> > was
> > >> locked down. During one rest area I tightened down one strap about 1/2
> > inch
> > >> and that was it! Wow.
> > >>
> > >> While at Stan's the weather was miserable. Rain and cold. When I arrived
> > the
> > >> boat was sitting in his yard fully rigged. We launched the boat just to
> > go
> > >> through the trailering procedure but we couldn't sail. Very cold and a
> > thick
> > >> fog. Once back on land his crew took me through the derigging procedure
> > one
> > >> step at a time. I participated somewhat, but my hands were so cold I
> > >> couldn't even take the rings off the pins. While the derigging was going
> > on
> > >> my wife Joyce was standing by with an umbrella, a pencil, and a soggy
> > piece
> > >> of paper writing down all the steps as I yelled each one to her over the
> > >> sounds of wind and rain. You know, things like "remove the pin from the
> > aft
> > >> lower shroud and connect the turnbuckle to the.....". You get the idea.
> > Over
> > >> dinner that night we tried to decipher the soggy, smudged list she had
> > >> written and the above item came out something like "remove the pin after
> > the
> > >> low shods and turn the buckles." We had some good laughs. Maybe it was
> > just
> > >> the martinis I was drinking. I so wish I would have had a video cam to
> > >> record the whole thing.
> > >>
> > >> We spent the night at the Captain's Quarters B&B in downtown Edenton
> > (what a
> > >> beautiful town Edenton is). The next day we added some straps to the rig
> > and
> > >> were on our way. We stopped at a rest stop before Atlanta and slept for
> > a
> > >> few hours in the truck and then proceeded. No way was I going to leave
> > the
> > >> rig in a hotel parking lot. I wouldn't have slept well worrying all
> > night
> > >> about the boat while suffering separation anxiety. I did sleep
> > relatively
> > >> well at the rest stop knowing the boat was attached to me via a steel
> > >> umbilical cord of sorts.
> > >>
> > >> The first day's drive was windy, cold, and rainy. The second day was
> > >> beautiful. We were soooo happy to be out of the cold wet weather.
> > >>
> > >> The boat is sitting in our boat yard here at the condo where I just
> > stand
> > >> there and stare at it lovingly. For the next few days I'll be sorting
> > >> through things, getting some supplies, prepping and starting the engine,
> > >> reading Stan's literature, etc. while I wait for our ramp work to be
> > >> completed so I can rig and launch (Rummy.... still interested?).
> > >>
> > >> This boat is freaking gorgeous. What a beautiful product they build. It
> > was
> > >> great to finally meet Stan and Rose; they look well. Mark and the crew
> > were
> > >> also wonderful.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks to all of you who have supported me and advised me thus far in
> > this
> > >> adventure.
> > >>
> > >> Some initial pictures are at:
> > >>
> > >>
> > 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/geoffreylfarrell/Rhodes22?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL8sbTOlv-LPg&feat=directlink
> > >>
> > >> Geoff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Sling <daysails at aol.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hey Geoff I think you got this right. Order in winter so you can launch
> > in
> > >>> the Spring. Brace yourself for a rush of pride in ownership when you
> > see
> > >>> it. Joe
> > >>>
> > >>> BigM wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm here at the Captain's Quarters in Edenton getting ready to go to
> > >>>> Stan's
> > >>>> to see my boat. I can't wait. Drive down (or up, actually) was
> > perfect.
> > >>>> It's
> > >>>> cold here though. Geoff
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