[Rhodes22-list] genoa size

[Rick]

If you use a whisker pole, an overhand loop gives you an attachment point a
cow hitch won't.  Otherwise, the cow hitch is the least troublesome.

To tack the 175 genny, just relax and let the sail backwind.  Only uncleat
the tensioned sheet after the bow has come across the wind.

If the genny won't fill in light air, sit to leeward.  The boat heel will
allow the weight of the sail to form enough camber to pull in less than 1
knot apparent.

Rick

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Dennis McNeely <
mcneelyd at site-solutions.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> ... against all that is holy, eh? <hoists mug of grog> Aye!! I've gone
> all season without touching that knot (excepting when the cow hitch hung
> on the baby stay), and only mucked with it at the end of the year when
> storing the lines prior to shrinkwrapping. No issues to date (knocking
> on wood here), and not having to go forward to free the sail is a 'thing
> of beauty and a joy to behold'. Granted, backing the genoa as the bow
> comes through the wind helps, but that little cow hitch is a sneaky
> little devil and manages to catch on the stay at the worst moment on the
> most ticklish tacks - the ones where land or another boat dictate you
> tack ASAP. It's a simple matter to tack earlier when you have the room,
> but if you're working a relatively narrow river and tacking frequently,
> you tend to push the limits to cut down the number of tacks.
>
> The 70% figure came from some comments I read - the origin is lost in
> the mist between my ears. i needed to have the sail's seams re-sewn, so
> I just asked to have the grommet installed at the same time and never
> tried using the clew as an attachment point for the tricing line. I've
> never had any problem with the tricing line fouling when attached to the
> new grommet - but perhaps a test using the clew is in order in the spring.
>
> BTW, the tricing line can be used as a foreguy for the wiskerpole when
> working downwind, since there's no real worry about the genoa snagging
> then - you're going to go forward to re-arrange the wisker pole and sail
> when you gybe anyway.
>
> Dennis
>
> On 10/16/2011 8:28 AM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> > Dennis,
> >
> > I would not advise using a clove hitch instead of the cow hitch since a
> > clove can permit the jib sheet to slide towards the loose end. Securing
> it
> > with thread seems to go against all that is holy about being able to
> quickly
> > untie or change knots in all conditions.
> >
> > On the other hand, using a tack tricing line is very interesting.  I
> wonder,
> > "How was the 70% point determined?" Can a tricing line be affixed to the
> > clew, at least to test?  It might also keep it from fouling as tack
> tricing
> > lines sometimes do.
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > On 10/15/2011 10:16 AM, Paul Krawitz wrote:
> >> On my new 2nd Rhodes, I find that the 175% genoa is too much sail in
> heavy
> >> air and too heavy/floppy in light air. And even with plastic rods
> covering
> >> the shrouds and cylindrical vinyl turnbuckle covers, it gets readily
> > -- snipped --
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