[Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
harry gamble
hgamblejr at usa.net
Wed Sep 21 17:47:22 EDT 2011
I'm new to this list, and I'm not sure what I am sending will get anywhere.
Anyway, my Rhodes 22 is in the water on Soldiers Creek off Perdido Bay near
Orange Beach Alabama. Fortunately it escaped the BP oil spill which did not
reach that far into the Bay. It stays in the water most of the time, but I
need to haul it out periodically for bottom painting or other work, and
possibly during hurricanes. I do not have a trailer, and I need one.
First, does anyone know of the availbility of a trailer anywhere near me? New
Bern, NC is a long haul. Second, if not, does anyone have any advice on how to
convert a standard V-hull trailer to fit the Rhodes? Again, I won't use it
much, and then only for short hauls on back roads.
Thanks.
Harry Gamble
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Received: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:36:07 AM CDT
From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
WE OVERCAME THE PROBLEM OF THE FURLING LINE SLIPPING UNDER THE BASEPLATE AND
WINDING UP ON THE FORESTAY DRUM &TUBE IN REVERSE BY TYING A TAUT 1/8" LINE
ACROSS FROM BOTTOM OF PULPIT SIDES ACROSS THE JIB FURLING LINE TO KEEP THE JIB
LINE LOW ENOUGH SO IT WINDS UP PROPERLY ON THE DRUM; HOPE THAT THIS WAS WHAT
YOU WERE REFERRING TO.
RIGGING, BACK STAYS, AND TRAVELER WERE SIMPLIFIED ON STAN'S OLDER BOAT DESIGNS
AS THEY ARE ON OUR '83. FEWER POTENTIAL PROBLEMS.
ALAN & BARBARA ROBERTSON -THOR IV
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From: Stephen Staum<mailto:snstaum at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
I agree w/ Chris on the viability of the old simple system. I lost 2
forestays (one broke under sail, the other just frayed) before learning of
the need to keep constant tension on the rigging. As long as your aft stays
are pulled tight w the tensioner, the forestay lasts for many years.
The beauty of the old system is that it never jams. As long as you don't
allow the furling line to unravel and slip under the baseplate (let it slide
through you fingers as you open the genny rather than just let it go) you
never have to go forward to mess with it. Simple is often better.
Sail more, fix less.
Stephen Staum
87 R22, Carol Lee
Needham, MA
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From: Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:19 AM
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Slim has a good point; the usual breaking point is where it is swaged, the
result of a bend or kink when putting up the mast. This area needs to be
examined carefully. Fortunately you can just slide the tube up to examine
the fitting. I have not had a failure in 35 years except for the kinked end
30 years ago. That doesn't mean it won't happen sooner. Also I usually
replace my rigging about every 12 years, mostly before a big adventure.
When I examined the forestays I did not see any untwisting, but a poorly
installed bushing or too long securing screw at the head of the sail could
easily cause such a failure. If you have the money you can't go wrong with
a Flex Furl like Slim's. If not, a bit of common sense and caution will
make the tube method a reasonable choice under the circumstances.
Chris G
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Slim Chance
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I believe there to be a flaw in this system. One that I discovered only
after my fore stay broke. The twisting of the tube over the stay can cause
the stay to unwind, wind and unwind over and over rendering it weakened.
Since you can't inspect the wire stay unless you take it all apart every so
often -- and none of us do that -- you'll never know 'til it's too late. I
replaced with the Flex Furl that I think is now common on most newer
models.
Slim
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Dennis Frappier
<dennisf at maine.rr.com>wrote<mailto:dennisf at maine.rr.com%3Ewrote>:
> Dear Chris,
> I got the furler pictures, thanks a bundle. Are there pieces of HDPE
under
> the disc that keeps it a few inches off the deck and out of the
attachment
> at the bow?
>
> Sincerely,
>
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> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
>
> D'OH! Thanks Hank,
> Let me try this again. It is an illustrated document maybe it got
> scrubbed.
> Just to be safe I'll attach just the pictures also.
>
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> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dennis Frappier's Question
>
> Chris,
>
> Doesn't look like the pics attached.
>
> Hank
> On Sep 18, 2011 11:06 PM, "Chris Geankoplis"
<napoli68 at charter.net<mailto:napoli68 at charter.net>> wrote:
> > Dennis,
> >
> > Attached are some picts of the old Aluminum tube furling jib
> > arrangement. It is a simple piece of equipment with one moving part.
The
> > bushings at the bottom and top are easy to fabricate out of HDPE or
> similar
> > type of plastic. Sometimes the disk may need a bit of welding to
reattach
> > it to the tube if bad things happen to it. Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris G
> >
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