[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1

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>   1. Re: V Berth redo (Stephen Staum)
>   2. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>   3. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
>   4. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>   5. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Lowe, Rob)
>   6. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)
>   7. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Michael D. Weisner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:50:01 -0400
> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
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> My old '87 did not have pegboard, just carpet and it looked good.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bill Pauer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:41 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
> 
> Has anyone seen a v berth without the pegboard?  I am redoing the
> interior of our Rhodes and considering just running carpet up the
> sides of v berth.  Any thoughts?
> Thanks
> Bill
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:57:38 -0400
> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
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> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I suspect 
> the problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat today for 
> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step instruction 
> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?  Looking at it, I am not 
> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that the step has to be removed first. 
> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already removed. 
> Anyone have additional pictures of the project?  Or any theories on how lots 
> of water is getting into the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that open.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Stephen Staum
> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and make sure 
> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently that 
> boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern storms. The cap is 
> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that this isn't 
> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you can 
> determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the 
> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that isn't the 
> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for a ride 
> and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to 
> see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a little 
> bit.
> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the  
> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any gasket  
> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM rubber which  
> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be cleaned with  
> gasoline or other solvents.
> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> 
> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I 
> suspect 
> the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat today for  
> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step  instruction 
> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I am not 
> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be removed 
> first. 
> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already removed. 
> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on how 
> lots 
> of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that open.
> 
> Thanks in  advance,
> Stephen Staum
> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> Needham,  MA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:38:53 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing Tuesday  
> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water. Promptly  
> pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back. Pumped the  
> bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up to carpet in  
> cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/ Wed morning.  
> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I  
> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap  
> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what it  
> looks like this A.M.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and  
>> make sure
>> that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently that
>> boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern  
>> storms. The cap is
>> the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over the years that this  
>> isn't
>> always the case. I would recommend drying it out and seeing if you can
>> determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak  
>> while in the
>> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that  
>> isn't the
>> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for  
>> a ride
>> and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. Also,  
>> check to
>> see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a  
>> little
>> bit.
>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any  
>> gasket
>> sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from EPDM  
>> rubber which
>> lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. It can be cleaned  
>> with
>> gasoline or other solvents.
>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>> 
>> Rummy
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>> 
>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I
>> suspect
>> the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the boat  
>> today for
>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step   
>> instruction
>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I  
>> am not
>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be removed
>> first.
>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already  
>> removed.
>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on  
>> how
>> lots
>> of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no hatches that  
>> open.
>> 
>> Thanks in  advance,
>> Stephen Staum
>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>> Needham,  MA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:59:47 -0400
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Stephen,
> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.  But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a look at the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.  Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at those before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> 
> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water. Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back. Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/ Wed morning.  
> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what it looks like this A.M.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and make 
>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently 
>> that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern 
>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over 
>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend drying it 
>> out and seeing if you can determine  the entry point. It's a whole lot 
>> easier to find a leak while in the water  rather than a tear down and 
>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If  no water enters 
>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can  get 
>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of the 
>> bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the 
>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any 
>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from 
>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced. 
>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>> 
>> Rummy
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>> 
>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I 
>> suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the 
>> boat today for
>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step   
>> instruction
>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I  
>> am not
>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be removed 
>> first.
>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already 
>> removed.
>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on 
>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no 
>> hatches that open.
>> 
>> Thanks in  advance,
>> Stephen Staum
>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>> Needham,  MA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:53:12 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Rob,
> 
> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I will  
> recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not - which  
> points to the cap I think.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Stephen,
>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain  
>> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight  
>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the  
>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.   
>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the  
>> cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a look at  
>> the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good look. The  
>> hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.   
>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at  
>> those before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull  
>> for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> 
>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing  
>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.  
>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.  
>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up  
>> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/  
>> Wed morning.
>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I  
>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap  
>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what  
>> it looks like this A.M.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and  
>>> make
>>> sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen recently
>>> that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during Eastern
>>> storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have seen over
>>> the years that this isn't always the case. I would recommend drying  
>>> it
>>> out and seeing if you can determine  the entry point. It's a whole  
>>> lot
>>> easier to find a leak while in the water  rather than a tear down and
>>> reinstalling the cap if that isn't the problem. If  no water enters
>>> while on the mooring, take her out for a ride and see if you can  get
>>> water to enter while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of  
>>> the
>>> bolts  holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the
>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any
>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from
>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced.
>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>> 
>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I
>>> suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the
>>> boat today for
>>> further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step by step
>>> instruction
>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
>>> am not
>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be  
>>> removed
>>> first.
>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already
>>> removed.
>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on
>>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no
>>> hatches that open.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in  advance,
>>> Stephen Staum
>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>> Needham,  MA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:58:28 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <008701cd7c91$254d56a0$6fe803e0$@com>
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> The hose is not usually the problem.  It is the through hull fitting.  The
> gasket for the fitting on the '83 is probably long gone.  Be careful about
> tightening the nylon nut on the fitting as it may fracture unexpectedly
> (very bad if in the water) and it may be attempting to compress the
> fiberglass hull if there is little or no gasket material remaining.  You
> will need to haul to replace and rebed the fitting.
> 
> The cockpit drain through hull fitting is usually out of the water when the
> boat is at anchor due to the shape of the hull.  It generally is pushed dow
> by weight in the stern (laz contents, batteries, engine or people) or by
> heavy seas.  The leak may be difficult to observe and water from the laz
> will usually flow forward, filling the cabin to the same level as the drain.
> 
> 
> Mike
> s/v <- NoName -> ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:53 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> 
> Rob,
> 
> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I will
> recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not - which points
> to the cap I think.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Stephen,
>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain 
>> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight 
>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the
>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.   
>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from the 
>> cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a look at 
>> the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good look. The
>> hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose clamps.   
>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at those 
>> before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull for the 
>> sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
>> 
>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing Tuesday 
>> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.  
>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water up 
>> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday nite/ 
>> Wed morning.
>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I 
>> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap 
>> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what it 
>> looks like this A.M.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and 
>>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen 
>>> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during 
>>> Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have 
>>> seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I would 
>>> recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  the entry 
>>> point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the water  
>>> rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that isn't the 
>>> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for a 
>>> ride and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around. 
>>> Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can 
>>> be tightened a little bit.
>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then the 
>>> associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any 
>>> gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from 
>>> EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced.
>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
>>> 
>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and I 
>>> suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the 
>>> boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step 
>>> by step instruction
>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
>>> am not
>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
>>> removed first.
>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already 
>>> removed.
>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on 
>>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no 
>>> hatches that open.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in  advance,
>>> Stephen Staum
>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
>>> Needham,  MA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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