[Rhodes22-list] Advise me

Tue Aug 21 12:53:09 EDT 2012

A number of years ago (1998?) Paul Cleavenger posted a tale on the 
old Sailnet list about the flipping of his R22 by a microburst 
(sudden 90 mile an hour winds) while he was motoring back to his slip 
in NC. He and a couple of other people were aboard and left clinging 
to overturned hull. Many other boats capsized or were damaged in the 
storm. His mast stuck in the mud and prevented righting until it was 
cut away. His boat went back to General Boats for repairs.

I thought that account was in the old "faq" but I didn't see it in a 
quick look. I have it but would have to do some editing and reformatting.

Mary Lou
1991 R22  Fretless
Rock Hall, MD

At 12:20 PM 8/21/2012, you wrote:
>Well I stand corrected!  # 3 in CT.  Any others out there?
>
>Chris G
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Bradley
>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:26 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>
>Joe, I would agree with Chris.  We're going through the same thing in CT
>after a storm blew through two weeks ago and knocked over many boats, the
>three R22s in Greenwich Harbor among them.  My hull is a 2006 and it came
>through with only minor damage to the gel coat.  I'm sending it to Stan for
>recycling since the interior got drenched and the wiring is shot.  Once I
>got the mud out of the top of the mast I got it furling again and hopefully
>there is no damage to the mast.  Stan will check the rigging.
>
>I'm sorry you've had such damage in such a short time owning your boat.
>  Hang in there.
>
>Dave
>
>On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Chris Geankoplis
><napoli68 at charter.net>wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >         The same thing happened to my "New boat" after the 2nd season.
> >  Mast
> > in the mud then big coastguard boat tried to right the capsized speed boat
> > hull.  Wrenched the mast from the boat and pulled out a couple of chain
> > plates.  Went on to sail it on the Bay for 20 years then sailed it over to
> > the Bahamas for 5 months.  My advice is go with the total loss, and pay
>the
> > salvage rights for the hull and fix it up.  Buy all the stuff from Stan so
> > he benefits.  The result is a Win, Win, for you and Stan.  I did all the
> > work my self (had no insurance so no real alternative).  It is a doable
> > project and you would be back sailing in the same amount of time as
>getting
> > a refurbish.  The other alternative is go with the total loss, get a new
> > refurb, get the salvage rights and fix it up anyway and sell it, nice part
> > time job.
> >
> > Chris G
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:30 AM
> > To: Rhodes List
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
> >
> > OK Gang:
> >
> >      I am confused (actually, a regularly occurring situation).  My boat,
> > which was flipped over, swamped and mast driven into the mud by a wrathful
> > storm a few weeks ago then forcefully wrenched out by my marina crew, is
>in
> > the process of rehabilitation. There is a possibility, according to a
> > surveyor, that she's a total loss as a result of damage to the mast and
> > rigging.
> >
> >      One of the marina guys says that he believes the damage is not so
> > severe as to make sailing on the upper Chesapeake a problem.  However, it
> > would not be 100% "seaworthy" for more challenging situations.  But I know
> > that situations on the bay can become "challenging" pretty damned quickly
> > on
> > the bay.
> >
> >      I am going down to look at her and discuss the plan tomorrow, but I
> > know others of you have been in my position, and I want your informed
> > advice
> > before  make any decisions.  If she's not 100%, and I can get the cost of
> > replacement from the insurance company, I will gladly sacrifice the rest
>of
> > this sailing season  and pick up another recycled boat from Stan.  If, on
> > the other hand, all can be fully amended, I'd possibly go with the "fix
>it"
> > scenario.  I will have more details tomorrow after my visit to the marina,
> > but I want to be armed with some of your informed opinions before I go.
> >  After all, this is not just any sailboat. Educate me.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Joe Camp
> > s/v John Dawson
> > Bohemia River, MD
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