[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2960, Issue 1

Goodness spreadgoodnews at gmail.com
Fri Aug 24 08:09:16 EDT 2012


I would think by the time it deployed it would already be stuck in the mud, but maybe.  The hobie mast head is designed to minimize windage.  Plus i have always thought they were cool!
I have NEVER seen a masthead float on a cruiser.
Others might think you to be an extreme racer! Lol!


On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:53 AM, "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:

> I wonder if there is an auto inflate device out there that would inflate
> when the mast is submerged a couple of feet.  It would mean less windage
> than the big ball on an old Hobie mast.
> 
> Chris G
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Bradley
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2960, Issue 1
> 
> I'd think the combination of centerboard down and water shallow enough to
> put mast/spreader in the mud would introduce a different and potentially
> bigger problem. 
> 
> A float on the mast head would be an interesting option and might have freed
> mine.  Does anyone know, is that a standard item?  When I took my mast down
> yesterday the mast head was still full of dried mud. I'm surprised my
> spreader was not bent. 
> 
> It does seem that the flared hull, freeboard and cabin profile combine to
> create a tendency to roll in a lateral wind.  The extreme weather patterns
> this year have created more cyclonic winds on the East Coast than I ever
> recall experiencing. However, there were a number of other boats that went
> over in the storm that hit us. One estimate was that 30 boats went over,
> most self-righting. Because our boat can be moored in shallower water,
> usually a benefit, it worked against us this time with the storm hitting at
> low tide. 
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is a very interesting set of observations!  It seems the Rhodes has a
> weakness being lightly ballasted and an unusual wind scoop (but otherwise
> beneficial) hull flare.  Sudden gust heeling the vessel 90+ degrees buried
> mast In shallow water.  This is a big problem.
>> Preventative measures:
>> Leave centerboard down,
>> Increase ballast,
>> Fly an "anchor rider" sail,
>> Add a hobie masthead float.
>> 
>> Perhaps even a combination.  Any other ideas for prevention on a mooring?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Richard MacArthur
> <Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What's going on? I thought my Rhodes 22 was self righting. Self righting
> means that in even the strongest wind it will blow over 90 degrees but not
> roll. It's supposed to stay at 90 degrees until the wind lets up and then
> right itself. A couple of weeks ago I was caught in a front moving in and it
> blew about 35 knots. I let all sail free and with that I was heeling at
> about 45 degrees. It didn't go down all the way and as soon as I got the
> sail in, no problem. It seems that when the flare of the hull digs in the
> boat stiffens up. What happens to make it roll? The only thing I can think
> of  is if the vessel is held by the wind with the mast in the water so that
> water can somehow enter the cabin then it loses its stability and has only
> the flotation to keep it from sinking and this would allow it to turn
> turtle. I know some catamarans use a flotation device at the top of the mast
> to stop the mast going to the bottom but the weight in the keel is supposed
> to do that in a sel!
> f!
>> r!
>>> ighting vessel, unless the interior fills with water. Am I right on this?
> 
>>> 
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>>> 1. Re: Advise me (Joe Camp)
>>> 2. Re: Advise me (Joe Camp)
>>> 3. Re: It's national rum month. (Charles Nieman)
>>> 4. Re: Advise me (Lowe, Rob)
>>> 5. Re: Advise me (Stephen Staum)
>>> 6. Re: Advise me (David Bradley)
>>> 7. Re: It's national rum month. (Shawn Boles)
>>> 8. Major Jones (Chris Geankoplis)
>>> 9. Re: Advise me (Chris Geankoplis)
>>> 10. Re: Advise me (Chris Geankoplis)
>>> 11. Anchor light housing replacement (Patrick Fletcher)
>>> 
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>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> Mary Lou:
>>> 
>>> ? ? ?I think you really have the solution here in considering the flared
> hull as a potential (or the most likely)
>>> reason for these roll-overs... or mine, anyway.
>>> 
>>> ? ? ?I have noted how tender the boat is when motoring with the tiller
> locked. ?The boat cannot maintain a straight course if I am moving about the
> cabin. ?Of course, I am 230 pounds, and that's more ballast to adjust the
> course, but I have learned to steer the boat by changing my position (even
> slightly) in the cockpit. ?My good sailing friend has a McGregor 25 and he
> has more "wetted surface" ?(to borrow a term from Stan). ?He can lock his
> tiller and wander fore and aft and beam to beam yet still maintain his basic
> course. He is more stable and takes more wind to heel the boat. ?Our keel
> weights are about the same. ?In the event that flipped my boat, his moored
> just a hundred feet away, didn't have a cushion out of place. True, this
> could be due in part to the nature of the weather event itself, but still
> telling as to the side to side stability issue. ?BNy the way, the integrity
> of my mast has been compromised by being buried in the bottom
>>> mud. Looks like a new mast is in the picture. ?Ah well, you've got to
> have stories to call yourself a sailor. ?Aye, mates??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? ??
>>> Joe Camp
>>> s/v John Dawson
>>> Bohemia River, MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>> 
>>>> I think any small relatively unballasted boat would be more at risk 
>>>> on a mooring. Our boats also have a fair amount of windage with the 
>>>> IMF and the flared hull. In a strong wind the poptops are probably 
>>>> also a liability unless well secured. I've never felt unsafe at 
>>>> anchor and we've been anchored in some pretty high winds but they 
>>>> were of short duration and our anchorages are typically more 
>>>> protected than most mooring fields.
>>>> 
>>>> Somewhere I saw it noted that with the warming climate, the world is 
>>>> a windier place. That certainly seems true here on the Chesapeake 
>>>> (though not today).
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 06:13 PM 8/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> Lack of a deep heavy keel is definitely a contributing factor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Luck of the draw."? Yeah, odd that so many R-22s flipp like 
>>>>> this.? It must be the global warming... er ah, "climate change" 
>>>>> R-22 effect.? Was this in Al Gore's movie?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:27 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mine also turtled on its mooring w local cyclones reported. 1 
>>>>> power boat was wrecked on the rocks - no other boats in the mooring 
>>>>> field were damaged. I think it is just the luck of the draw.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was not driven ashore.? She flipped right at the 
>>>>> mooring.? All other moored boats very near got nothing. I am 
>>>>> looking for a slip for next season.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar 
>>>>> Island to do the
>>>>>>>>> deed.? If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat 
>>>>> given enough
>>>>>>>>> sudden wind.? In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can 
>>>>> recall other
>>>>>>>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>>>>>>>>> Chris G
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this talk
>>>>>>>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats more
>>>>>>>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a lot
> of
>>>>>>>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>>> 
>>> Chris:
>>> 
>>> ? ? ?Yeah, thank the maker for insurance. ?I learned yesterday that my
> mast has suffered some dimples up where the spreaders attach. ?I sent pics
> to Stan, and he confirmed that these will make the mast weaker, maybe even
> unsafe. ?So, I suppose I am on the hard for the rest of the season. ?The
> marina crew has the cabin cleaned out pretty well, so the main issue is the
> mast. ?As I said to Mary Lou: "you've got to have stories to call yourself a
> sailor." ?ttfn.
>>> 
>>> Joe?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>> 
>>>> Gee Joe,
>>>> ??? Sounds like Whack a Mole and you lost.? I'm glad you have insurance,
>>>> let us know how things came out.? Sounds like Peter was treated well by
> his
>>>> insurance.
>>>> Chris G
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>> 
>>>> Chris:
>>>> 
>>>> I was not driven ashore. ?She flipped right at the mooring. ?All other
>>>> moored boats very near got nothing. I am looking for a slip for next
> season.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar Island to
> do
>>>> the
>>>>> deed.? If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat given
> enough
>>>>> sudden wind.? In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can recall
> other
>>>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this talk
>>>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats more
>>>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a lot of
>>>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:21:38 -0400
>>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <BAY164-W61FA02393821CC72F42308D9BF0 at phx.gbl>
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>>> 
>>> Lynn
>>> 
>>> That is beautiful ... brought a tear to my eye....
>>> 
>>> I don't know what you do or did for a living, but if not writting, you
> should consider it
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Charles
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: drfood55 at gmail.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:10:37 -0400
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>>> 
>>>> Major Jones is Satisfied
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In case you missed the 70?s, a Jones is a yearning. So let?s talk
>>>> yearnings. I?m not going to ask you yours and I?m not telling you most
> of
>>>> mine, because then we?d have to lie. You?d have to say something about
>>>> Mahler and I?d have to respond with Adri?. Pish and Tosh. What I want to
> do
>>>> is take a risk and tell you about my major jones, no make that Major
> Jones.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My Major Jones goes back to 1983. I crossed the Atlantic Ocean as crew
> in a
>>>> 92 foot, steel-hulled wishbone ketch named Sintra. Life-altering blah
> blah
>>>> blah, but there were two effects of that trade-winds cause. One was that
> I
>>>> will forever be in love with everybody who made that crossing with me.
> The
>>>> other is that I have wanted sailing ever since. Yes, wanted to move
> across
>>>> water powered by wind. Waves, breeze, smell, difficulty, craft,
> strategy.
>>>> Elementary.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I?ve owned a couple of sailboats since then, one of them so beautiful
> that
>>>> I could cry about it, but neither of them addressed, much less satisfied
>>>> Major Jones. What the Major wants is a boat on which a man could sail
> out
>>>> on big water, go to sleep and then wake up and sail some more. The Major
>>>> wants a boat that feels just a little bit like home, that smells a
> little
>>>> bit like adventure, that shrinks the world and blows it wide open at the
>>>> same time. A boat where you plot your course, cook your dinner, drop
> your
>>>> anchor and pick it up again. The Major wants to be able to go to the
> boat
>>>> any time, to sail in the rain or eat a cheese sandwich in the cockpit
> and
>>>> not leave the dock on the prettiest day of the year.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now, like every other unresolved human being, I?ve got a Jones family.
>>>> Fortunately, it?s a family that shrinks every year. Most of my Joneses
> now
>>>> are about accomplishments or wishes for some certain younger souls who-i
>>>> assume- have Joneses of their own. I don?t care much where I live,
> hardly
>>>> want any thing or accolade. But the one persistent, monster, Kick-ass,
>>>> Grandfather Jones is the one about the sailboat.
>>>> 
>>>> ??
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So here she is. A Rhodes22, red-hulled, white-sailed, carefully designed
>>>> and reworked by a genius named Stan Spitzer to be sailed single-handed
> by
>>>> an jonesing old man on medium-sized water in light to semi heavy air.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I met her last weekend in North Carolina and we had a couple of sails on
>>>> the Albemarle Sound behind Cape Hatteras. She?ll be delivered by trailer
> up
>>>> to the Jersey Shore next week. What?s it like to have Major Jones
>>>> satisfied? It doesn?t look like any of those Olympic gold-medal winner
>>>> ecstasy fests. In fact, it?s not ecstatic at all.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The feeling is more like coming home after a long trip. It doesn?t make
> you
>>>> want a new Jones to pursue, it doesn?t make you want to promote Major
> Jones
>>>> to Colonel and go for a bigger and faster boat. It makes you feel that
>>>> rarest of modern feelings: satisfied.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh yum, savor it-satisfaction-not ?closure? or any feeling that
> diminishes
>>>> someone else, feel free to smack your lips and throw a twenty in the
>>>> collection plate the next time it comes your way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The best thing is that having one Major Jones satisfied, makes you
> inclined
>>>> to see the rest of your personal Jones family in a different light: a
>>>> slanted, low-angled, orangey light reflected off brackish water filled
> with
>>>> life. Sometimes, the Major says, enough is enough and if the Major is
>>>> satisfied, maybe you should be too.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:27:14 -0400
>>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped.  Was the center board up or
> down?  I would assume the board down would resist the roll.  Anyone that had
> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> 
>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is this
> more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)?  It seems
> like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>> 
>>> Chris G
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:35:22 -0400
>>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <B1EA5513-B25A-4B69-986C-2696F89A1826 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> My board was up on the Carol Lee. 
>>> 
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:27 PM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped.  Was the center board up or
> down?  I would assume the board down would resist the roll.  Anyone that had
> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>> 
>>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is
> this more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)?  It
> seems like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris G
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:42:01 -0400
>>> From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <7DC4D502-521B-4F06-84EE-F59DBA3286BD at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Mine was up. Too shallow in an extreme low tide at my mooring. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My board was up on the Carol Lee. 
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:27 PM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped.  Was the center board up or
> down?  I would assume the board down would resist the roll.  Anyone that had
> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>> 
>>>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is
> this more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)?  It
> seems like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:29:23 -0700
>>> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>  <CAMzGxuOVZh1fizVvoGGw_R-mdnSMmLURCr-dK8Dpbx3judUpoQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>> 
>>> Lynn:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations. Two things:
>>> 
>>> 1. I saw Sintra in 199 or 2000 at New Bedford, Mass.  being hoisted out
> for
>>> refit. She was beautiful!
>>> 2. Inspect the trailer thoroughly before you have your boat hauled to her
>>> new home..
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Shawn Boles
>>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Lynn Hoffman <drfood55 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Major Jones is Satisfied
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In case you missed the 70?s, a Jones is a yearning. So let?s talk
>>>> yearnings. I?m not going to ask you yours and I?m not telling you most
> of
>>>> mine, because then we?d have to lie. You?d have to say something about
>>>> Mahler and I?d have to respond with Adri?. Pish and Tosh. What I want to
> do
>>>> is take a risk and tell you about my major jones, no make that Major
> Jones.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My Major Jones goes back to 1983. I crossed the Atlantic Ocean as crew
> in a
>>>> 92 foot, steel-hulled wishbone ketch named Sintra. Life-altering blah
> blah
>>>> blah, but there were two effects of that trade-winds cause. One was that
> I
>>>> will forever be in love with everybody who made that crossing with me.
> The
>>>> other is that I have wanted sailing ever since. Yes, wanted to move
> across
>>>> water powered by wind. Waves, breeze, smell, difficulty, craft,
> strategy.
>>>> Elementary.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I?ve owned a couple of sailboats since then, one of them so beautiful
> that
>>>> I could cry about it, but neither of them addressed, much less satisfied
>>>> Major Jones. What the Major wants is a boat on which a man could sail
> out
>>>> on big water, go to sleep and then wake up and sail some more. The Major
>>>> wants a boat that feels just a little bit like home, that smells a
> little
>>>> bit like adventure, that shrinks the world and blows it wide open at the
>>>> same time.  A boat where you plot your course, cook your dinner, drop
> your
>>>> anchor and pick it up again. The Major wants to be able to go to the
> boat
>>>> any time, to sail in the rain or eat a cheese sandwich in the cockpit
> and
>>>> not leave the dock on the prettiest day of the year.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now, like every other unresolved human being, I?ve got a Jones family.
>>>> Fortunately, it?s a family that shrinks every year. Most of my Joneses
> now
>>>> are about accomplishments or wishes for some certain younger souls who-i
>>>> assume- have Joneses of their own. I don?t care much where I live,
> hardly
>>>> want any thing or accolade. But the one persistent, monster, Kick-ass,
>>>> Grandfather Jones is the one about the sailboat.
>>>> 
>>>> ??
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So here she is. A Rhodes22, red-hulled, white-sailed, carefully designed
>>>> and reworked by a genius named Stan Spitzer to be sailed single-handed
> by
>>>> an jonesing old man on medium-sized water in light to semi heavy air.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I met her last weekend in North Carolina and we had a couple of sails on
>>>> the Albemarle Sound behind Cape Hatteras. She?ll be delivered by trailer
> up
>>>> to the Jersey Shore next week. What?s it like to have Major Jones
>>>> satisfied? It doesn?t look like any of those Olympic gold-medal winner
>>>> ecstasy fests. In fact, it?s not ecstatic at all.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The feeling is more like coming home after a long trip. It doesn?t make
> you
>>>> want a new Jones to pursue, it doesn?t make you want to promote Major
> Jones
>>>> to Colonel and go for a bigger and faster boat. It makes you feel that
>>>> rarest of modern feelings: satisfied.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh yum, savor it-satisfaction-not ?closure? or any feeling that
> diminishes
>>>> someone else, feel free to smack your lips and throw a twenty in the
>>>> collection plate the next time it comes your way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The best thing is that having one Major Jones satisfied, makes you
> inclined
>>>> to see the rest of your personal Jones family in a different light: a
>>>> slanted, low-angled, orangey light reflected off brackish water filled
> with
>>>> life. Sometimes, the Major says, enough is enough and if the Major is
>>>> satisfied, maybe you should be too.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot_ (http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>> 
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> go
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [image: QR code]
>>>> 
>>>> http://goo.gl/pYqg9.qr
>>>> Hallelujah! The Short Course in Beer is out in a second, revised
> edition.
>>>> To take a look, go to:
>>>> 
>>>> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Short-Course-Beer-Introduction-Civilized/dp/1616086335
> /ref=dp_ob_title_bk
>>>> 
>>>> ?Had enough of gun violence? Read the story of a woman who does
> something
>>>> about it .
>>>> *Paula Sherman and the National Rifle Association  *
>>>> 
>>>> get your e-copy for $4.99 at
>>>> http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/23266
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> 
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> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:08:19 -0700
>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Major Jones
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <q08H1j0032tNS5M0508HBW at charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> What an absolute great comment on life and the Rhodes.  Thanks!
>>> Chris G
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lynn Hoffman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:11 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] It's national rum month.
>>> 
>>> Major Jones is Satisfied
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In case you missed the 70?s, a Jones is a yearning. So let?s talk
>>> yearnings. I?m not going to ask you yours and I?m not telling you most of
>>> mine, because then we?d have to lie. You?d have to say something about
>>> Mahler and I?d have to respond with Adri?. Pish and Tosh. What I want to
> do
>>> is take a risk and tell you about my major jones, no make that Major
> Jones.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My Major Jones goes back to 1983. I crossed the Atlantic Ocean as crew in
> a
>>> 92 foot, steel-hulled wishbone ketch named Sintra. Life-altering blah
> blah
>>> blah, but there were two effects of that trade-winds cause. One was that
> I
>>> will forever be in love with everybody who made that crossing with me.
> The
>>> other is that I have wanted sailing ever since. Yes, wanted to move
> across
>>> water powered by wind. Waves, breeze, smell, difficulty, craft, strategy.
>>> Elementary.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I?ve owned a couple of sailboats since then, one of them so beautiful
> that
>>> I could cry about it, but neither of them addressed, much less satisfied
>>> Major Jones. What the Major wants is a boat on which a man could sail out
>>> on big water, go to sleep and then wake up and sail some more. The Major
>>> wants a boat that feels just a little bit like home, that smells a little
>>> bit like adventure, that shrinks the world and blows it wide open at the
>>> same time.  A boat where you plot your course, cook your dinner, drop
> your
>>> anchor and pick it up again. The Major wants to be able to go to the boat
>>> any time, to sail in the rain or eat a cheese sandwich in the cockpit and
>>> not leave the dock on the prettiest day of the year.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now, like every other unresolved human being, I?ve got a Jones family.
>>> Fortunately, it?s a family that shrinks every year. Most of my Joneses
> now
>>> are about accomplishments or wishes for some certain younger souls who-i
>>> assume- have Joneses of their own. I don?t care much where I live, hardly
>>> want any thing or accolade. But the one persistent, monster, Kick-ass,
>>> Grandfather Jones is the one about the sailboat.
>>> 
>>> ??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So here she is. A Rhodes22, red-hulled, white-sailed, carefully designed
>>> and reworked by a genius named Stan Spitzer to be sailed single-handed by
>>> an jonesing old man on medium-sized water in light to semi heavy air.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I met her last weekend in North Carolina and we had a couple of sails on
>>> the Albemarle Sound behind Cape Hatteras. She?ll be delivered by trailer
> up
>>> to the Jersey Shore next week. What?s it like to have Major Jones
>>> satisfied? It doesn?t look like any of those Olympic gold-medal winner
>>> ecstasy fests. In fact, it?s not ecstatic at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The feeling is more like coming home after a long trip. It doesn?t make
> you
>>> want a new Jones to pursue, it doesn?t make you want to promote Major
> Jones
>>> to Colonel and go for a bigger and faster boat. It makes you feel that
>>> rarest of modern feelings: satisfied.
>>> 
>>> Oh yum, savor it-satisfaction-not ?closure? or any feeling that
> diminishes
>>> someone else, feel free to smack your lips and throw a twenty in the
>>> collection plate the next time it comes your way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The best thing is that having one Major Jones satisfied, makes you
> inclined
>>> to see the rest of your personal Jones family in a different light: a
>>> slanted, low-angled, orangey light reflected off brackish water filled
> with
>>> life. Sometimes, the Major says, enough is enough and if the Major is
>>> satisfied, maybe you should be too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot_ (http://tinyurl.com/9obv9ot)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
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> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [image: QR code]
>>> 
>>> http://goo.gl/pYqg9.qr
>>> Hallelujah! The Short Course in Beer is out in a second, revised edition.
>>> To take a look, go to:
>>> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Short-Course-Beer-Introduction-Civilized/dp/1616086335
>>> /ref=dp_ob_title_bk
>>> 
>>> ?Had enough of gun violence? Read the story of a woman who does something
>>> about it .
>>> *Paula Sherman and the National Rifle Association  *
>>> 
>>> get your e-copy for $4.99 at
>>> http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/23266
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> 
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> to
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:12:43 -0700
>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <q0Ch1j00S2tNS5M050ChAH at charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> Yup can't accept a questionable mast.  Might get $3.00 per pound for
> scrap,
>>> arrgh shipwreck salvage, love it.  Better charge insurance for new wiring
>>> and cushions they are really hard to get the bait tank smell out after
> that
>>> kind of immersion.  Good Luck!
>>> Chris G
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:09 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> 
>>> Chris:
>>> 
>>> ? ? ?Yeah, thank the maker for insurance. ?I learned yesterday that my
> mast
>>> has suffered some dimples up where the spreaders attach. ?I sent pics to
>>> Stan, and he confirmed that these will make the mast weaker, maybe even
>>> unsafe. ?So, I suppose I am on the hard for the rest of the season. ?The
>>> marina crew has the cabin cleaned out pretty well, so the main issue is
> the
>>> mast. ?As I said to Mary Lou: "you've got to have stories to call
> yourself a
>>> sailor." ?ttfn.
>>> 
>>> Joe?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>> 
>>>> Gee Joe,
>>>> ??? Sounds like Whack a Mole and you lost.? I'm glad you have insurance,
>>>> let us know how things came out.? Sounds like Peter was treated well by
> his
>>>> insurance.
>>>> Chris G
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>> 
>>>> Chris:
>>>> 
>>>> I was not driven ashore. ?She flipped right at the mooring. ?All other
>>>> moored boats very near got nothing. I am looking for a slip for next
>>> season.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my case it took a tornado going thru the "pot" on Poplar Island to
> do
>>>> the
>>>>> deed.? If you sail in shoal waters it will happen to any boat given
> enough
>>>>> sudden wind.? In the last 35 years Joe is the only one I can recall
> other
>>>>> than mine, and he was driven ashore, right?
>>>>> Chris G
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:15 AM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't want to wish ill upon anyone else but...with all this talk
>>>>> about Rhodes 22's with Masts stuck in the mud, are our boats more
>>>>> inclined to suffer this fate or did these recent storms cause a lot of
>>>>> havoc for other boats the same size?
>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>> 
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> go
>>>> to
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>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> to
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:31 -0700
>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <q0DV1j00H2tNS5M050DVv5 at charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> Mine was centerboard up as I recall.
>>> Chris G
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:27 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> 
>>> I'm curious of these boats that flipped.  Was the center board up or
> down?
>>> I would assume the board down would resist the roll.  Anyone that had
>>> problems know what position their board was in? - rob
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:21 AM
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Advise me
>>> 
>>> Man this is like 5 people who have flipped or had serious damage, is this
>>> more than we usually see in a summer (excluding those hurricanes)?  It
> seems
>>> like a high number or am I just getting forgetful?
>>> 
>>> Chris G
>>> 
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:07:03 -0700
>>> From: Patrick Fletcher <patrick.d.fletcher at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor light housing replacement
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Message-ID:
>>>  <CADiS6hxX00S20KS4J2AqSHuiHFmJ-K-udumwANtsz+bv+Vv9Xw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>> 
>>> Our trip to Canada's Desolation Sound last week was marvelous, but our
>>> retrieval had a few setbacks...  After a delay (caused by  transmission
>>> trouble on the towing vehicle), we found ourselves pulling up our R22 in
>>> the dark, under the single sodium light of Okeover Marina.  We overcame
>>> severe sidewinds and currents to get the Beagle III happily back onto her
>>> trailer. I pulled her out of the water triumphantly to make ready to step
>>> the mast for her 10 hour drive home, and then pulled her right into the
>>> many branches of an interposing tree.
>>> 
>>> The mast and upper rigging were well entrenched in the branches- the
>>> trailer was on a slope that listed her to starboard, so the port upper
>>> shroud was so taut that it managed to carve a notch out of a branch and
>>> stick there. Backing her didn't do the trick- there were more branches to
>>> encounter in that direction. We had a half-size maglite and a collapsible
> 9
>>> foot boathook, which came in handy for investigating and clearing the
>>> initial blockage (add those to your kit!)... After some tired and
> worn-out
>>> thinking, I came to the realization that I'd have to step the mast and
> pull
>>> the rig forward a foot at a time, and so to slip her out of the tree.
> Good
>>> thing we had the winch and mast cradle... This is what worked.
>>> 
>>> So, after we got out of there, the only damage was, the housing for the
>>> anchor light, a sharp bend on the antenna, and our wind indicator which I
>>> would describe as "crumpled up, also smashed". I was pretty sure that the
>>> port upper shroud would fail and dump the mast over the side, but
>>> thankfully, this did not happen. Good engineering there.
>>> 
>>> So, questions:
>>> 
>>> --Can I order a new housing for the anchor light, or should I replace the
>>> whole thing?
>>> --There's a big patch of pitch on my jib after I dragged it through some
>>> trees- any cleaning advice?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> --Pat, co-captain of the Beagle III
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> **********************************************
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