[Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?

Dennis Frappier dennisf at maine.rr.com
Sat Jan 21 11:56:55 EST 2012


Ken, Thanks for the info it is great inspiration for me to do the work to
get the interior redone and get her into the lake and Casco Bay is close by
also. I can hardly wait to have a full sail and have the Rhodes cruising.  


Sincerely,

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Dennis
The wind was on the beam, we didnt care where we went
Just how far over we could get and i would gues that we got
The waterline just into the flair of the hull and no further. The "rail"
Stayed about 8 inches above the water. What a feeling of 
Power you get at this point ,wind in the rigging the rushing water
You are only doing 7 knots but it seems like you are flying
My lake is hard and we have about a foot of lake effect snow
And its about 10*
Rain on monday!!!
Ken
SV Big Blew

DennisF wrote:
> 
> 
> Ken,
> Great information for me.  Did you get the rail to the waterline?  Were
> you
> headed into the wind or was the wind on your beam?  It's snowing in Maine
> and real cold 11 F. The lake is still not frozen the wind keeps the ice
> from
> forming on the big basin where we live.  Maybe it will freeze if it stays
> cold and it is calm for 2-3 days.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dennis 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KenBates
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 8:24 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?
> 
> 
> Hi John
> I too am new to sailing. I bought my rhodes 2 years ago and was suprised
> at
> how tippy it seemed.
> I live on a inland lake in michigan with gusty and varriable wind, the
> only
> thing constant about the wind is change.I was quite concerned when a gust
> would hit and the heel angle increased rapidly. i never went out if the
> gusts wer over 17 mph (good local private weather station) and then so
> reefed that we didnt go very fast.
> Late last summer my son, after listening to all this "wind concen" and the
> theoretical "they say she wont go over" comvinced me to remove anything
> loose from the cabin and go out to attempt to bury the rail.
> with empty water tank in our 86 and a 22 knt wind, pretty steady for
> michigan, we went out reefed. after a while we read our speed with an i
> phone app my son Keith has at 3 knots. "More sail dad" then 5 knots and a
> lot of heel but only about 15 degrees "more sail dad", we wound up at 7
> knts
> on his app and as we approached the rail i had to steer away from the wind
> as hard as i could to keep her from rounding up
> the my sun came partly down from the rail where he had been perched and
> into
> the wind she went, no stopping her we did this repeatedly . with no
> significant waves (smallish lake) 22 knts 180 genny all out
> we couldent get our feet wet no matter how hard we tried.I am now MUCH
> more
> comfortable with a bit of heel you gotta try it!
> Ken
> SV Big Blew (formerly one of the many serenities)
>  
> 
> John Shulick wrote:
>> 
>> Happy new year to all,
>> 
>>  I would like to get some input from the forum about Rhodes 22 heeling
>> characteristics. As the Rhodes is the only boat I've ever sailed on I
>> have
>> no point of reference about how "stiff " the boat should be when the wind
>> approaches 10knts. The specs say a Rhodes has ~ 700 lbs ballast. I know
>> the centerboard is 100 lbs because I've weighed it. The shoal keel is
>> encapsulated concrete. Being and older boat the extra ballast in my
>> Rhodes
>> is concrete and I just don't see 600lbs or so of it. I'm considering
>> adding 2  100 lb lead bars, one on each side bolted into the bottom of
>> the
>> keel. The lead will be appropriately sealed for environmental
>> concerns. Any and all comments are welcome.
>> 
>> John S
>> 
>> PS:  Rummys mountain picts are cool.
>> 
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