[Rhodes22-list] Boat renaming ceremony.

Tue Jun 5 13:17:10 EDT 2012

Rummy,

This is fantastic knowledge, and I do trust that an OLD salt of your stature would be accurate to the Nth degree. 
Is this knowledge that has been passed to you in oral form for the Old Salts of past or have you read this and share it now with those of us not so well educated? If the later, could you share the location of such scripture?

Many Thanks

Charles
98R22

> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:33:02 -0400
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat renaming ceremony.
> 
> The dog of Hades that guards the gates of the underworld will track you 
> down and get its revenge on you for daring to eradicate the name of its queen 
> without conducting the proper ceremony.
> 
> 
> Everyone knows that renaming your boat will bring nothing but bad luck and 
> make your boating experience something that you will want to forget. But 
> what happens when, after months of searching, you find your dreamboat with a 
> name that you just cannot live with. For example, my first love was a 
> 28-foot Alden with the most beautiful lines I’d ever seen. She was named 
> Perfidious. How could anything this graceful be named betrayer of trust? Well, I 
> never bought her, but I often thought that if I had, I would have renamed 
> her Magic, after my wife. 
> Renaming a boat is, of course, not something to be done lightly. Since the 
> beginning of time, sailors have sworn that there are unlucky ships and the 
> unluckiest ships of all are those who have defied the gods and changed 
> their names. So, is there a way to change a name and not incur the wrath of 
> those deities that rule the elements? Yes, Virginia, there is. 
> According to legend, each and every vessel is recorded by name in the 
> Ledger of the Deep and is known personally to Poseidon, or Neptune, the god of 
> the sea. It is logical therefore, if we wish to change the name of our 
> boat, the first thing we must do is to purge its name from the Ledger of the 
> Deep and from Poseidon’s memory. 
> This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration of 
> every trace of the boat’s current identity. This is essential and must be 
> done thoroughly. 
> I once went through the ceremony after the owner had assured me that every 
> reference to his boat’s old name had been purged from her. A couple of 
> weeks later, he discovered he had missed a faded name on her floating key 
> chain. I advised him to start over, perhaps with a little extra libation for 
> the ruler of the sea. Unfortunately, he declined. 
> Since then, his boat has been struck by lightning, had its engine ruined 
> by the ingress of the sea, been damaged by collision and finally sunk! It 
> pays to be thorough. 
> In purging your boat, it is acceptable to use White-Out or some similar 
> obliterating fluid to expunge the boat’s name from log books, engine and 
> maintenance records etc., but it is much easier to simply remove the offending 
> document from the boat and start afresh. Don’t forget the life rings and 
> especially the transom and forward name boards. 
> Do not under any circumstances carry aboard any item bearing your boat’s 
> new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been completed! 
> Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed from 
> her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the old name 
> written on it in water-soluble ink. You will also need a bottle of reasonably 
> good Rum. Plain old Rum won’t cut it. Since this is an auspicious 
> occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to witness and to party. Begin 
> by invoking the name of the ruler of the deep as follows: 
> Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we 
> who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you 
> in your graciousness to expunge for all time from your records and 
> recollection the name (here insert the old name of your vessel) which has ceased to 
> be an entity in your kingdom. As proof thereof, we submit this ingot 
> bearing her name to be corrupted through your powers and forever be purged from 
> the sea. (At this point, the prepared metal tag is dropped from the bow of 
> the boat into the sea.) 
> In grateful acknowledgment of your munificence and dispensation, we offer 
> these libations to your majesty and your court. (Pour at least half of the 
> bottle of Rum into the sea from East to West. The remainder may be passed 
> among your guests. 
> It is usual for the renaming ceremony to be conducted immediately 
> following the purging ceremony, although it may be done at any time after the 
> purging ceremony. For this portion of the proceedings, you will need more Rum, 
> Much more because you have a few more gods to appease. Begin the renaming by 
> again calling Poseidon as follows: 
> Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we 
> who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you 
> in your graciousness to take unto your records and recollection this worthy 
> vessel hereafter and for all time known as (Here insert the new name you 
> have chosen), guarding her with your mighty arm and trident and ensuring her 
> of safe and rapid passage throughout her journeys within your realm. 
> In appreciation of your munificence, dispensation and in honor of your 
> greatness, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (At this 
> point, one bottle of Rum, less one glass for the master and one glass for 
> the mate are poured into the sea from West to East.) 
> The next step in the renaming ceremony is to appease the gods of the 
> winds. This will assure you of fair winds and smooth seas. Because the four 
> winds are brothers, it is permissible to invoke them all at the same time, 
> however, during the ceremony; you must address each by name. Begin in this 
> manner: 
> Oh mighty rulers of the winds, through whose power our frail vessels 
> traverse the wild and faceless deep, we implore you to grant this worthy vessel 
> (Insert your boat’s new name) the benefits and pleasures of your bounty, 
> ensuring us of your gentle ministration according to our needs.(Facing north, 
> pour a generous libation of Rum into a glass and fling to the North as you 
> intone:) Great Boreas, exalted ruler of the North Wind, grant us 
> permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever 
> sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your frigid breath.(Facing west, pour 
> the same amount of Rum and fling to the West while intoning:) Great 
> Zephyrus, exalted ruler of the West Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty 
> powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the 
> overwhelming scourge of your wild breath.(Facing east, repeat and fling to the 
> East.) Great Eurus, exalted ruler of the East Wind, grant us permission to use 
> your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us 
> the overwhelming scourge of your mighty breath. 
> (Facing south, repeat, flinging to the South.) Great Notus, exalted ruler 
> of the South Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the 
> pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of 
> your scalding breath. 
> Of course, any Rum remaining will be the beginnings of a suitable 
> celebration in honor of the occasion. 
> Once the ceremony has been completed, you may bring aboard any and all 
> items bearing the new name of your vessel. If you must schedule the painting 
> of the new name on the transom before the ceremony, be sure the name is not 
> revealed before the ceremony is finished. It may be covered with bunting or 
> some other suitable material. 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/5/2012 11:17:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> shawn.sustain at gmail.com writes:
> 
> Rummy:
> 
> I understand your preference, but it is just that, a preference. I
> distinctly heard the gods smack their lips upon being offered wine...
> 
> cheers,
> Shawn
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> > RED WINE is not an acceptable liquid for the naming/renaming ritual. Rum,
> > good quality rum is the ONLY liquid that is recognized by the gods.
> > Anything
> > less will bring fire and damnation upon your vessel.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2012 2:29:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > shawn.sustain at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > Charles:
> >
> > I used a variation of ritual I found
> > here<http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/naming.html>.
> > I was not sure about her previous name(s) so I just asked the Gods to
> > retire them with honor.
> >
> > 1. Good red wine.
> > 2. Pour some on bow as libations to Gods
> > 3. Make your request for naming and protection.
> > 4. Toast the boat!
> >
> > BTW - Clean the bow quickly - Red wine stains...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Shawn
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Charles Nieman
> > <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am wanting/needing to change the name on my boat ..... have never
> > been
> > > clear on the proper proceedure. Can you describe and/or send me to a
> > [place
> > > to get the process described completely?
> > >
> > > Charles
> > > 98R22
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:11:32 -0700
> > > > From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie questions Suppliers/Anchoring/Sail
> > > Balance
> > > >
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > First, let me thank you for your kind welcome to the list! On May 
> 30th
> > we
> > > > poured a libation to Poseidon and Aeolus to retire any previous 
> names
> > of
> > > > our boat and know her henceforth as Sweet Baboo. ( I will forward
> > > > pictures).
> > > >
> > > > As I said I have a lot of questions. I looked in the archive for
> > answers
> > > > but did not find anything about my first 3 questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Do you have a favorite source for marine supplies? I just drove 
> 70
> > > Miles
> > > > to the closest West marine store and , frankly, I was not impressed.
> > Nice
> > > > folks, but not much stock, expensive, and I pay shipping. Surely,
> > there
> > > is
> > > > something better.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Anchor rode and storage advice - we sail in a fairly shallow (avg
> > > depth
> > > > 7' max 30') reservoir and want to anchor out for the night. Stan
> > > supplied a
> > > > Danforth (looks like a 4-6 #) on bow pulpit but no chain/rode.
> > > >
> > > > - What would you recommend? I am thinking of 3/8" Premium
> > > > Anchor Line, 100', 4,400lb. with 3-5' of
> > > > chain. Does anyone have picture of how you store/deploy/
> > > > retrieve your anchor.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Lea Helm & Sail Balance. I have only been out a couple of times
> > (rainy
> > > > season has decided to prolong itself [?]) With 100% main and 100% 
> jib
> > > (just
> > > > ahead of mast) I have a slight lea helm. This gets more pronounced 
> as
> > I
> > > > unfurl more headsail.
> > > >
> > > > - is this normal? I am used to slight weather helm. Should
> > > > I care?
> > > > - what is best adjustment? traveler? mast rake? other?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for any advice.
> > > >
> > > > Shawn & Melva Boles
> > > > s/v Sweet Baboo ('86)
> > > >
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> 
> The dog of Hades that guards the gates of the underworld will track
> you down and get its revenge on you for daring to eradicate the name
> of its queen without conducting the proper ceremony.
> 
> 
> 
> Everyone knows that renaming your boat will bring nothing but bad luck
> and make your boating experience something that you will want to
> forget. But what happens when, after months of searching, you find
> your dreamboat with a name that you just cannot live with. For
> example, my first love was a 28-foot Alden with the most beautiful
> lines I'd ever seen. She was named Perfidious. How could anything this
> graceful be named betrayer of trust? Well, I never bought her, but I
> often thought that if I had, I would have renamed her Magic, after my
> wife.
> 
> Renaming a boat is, of course, not something to be done lightly. Since
> the beginning of time, sailors have sworn that there are unlucky ships
> and the unluckiest ships of all are those who have defied the gods and
> changed their names. So, is there a way to change a name and not incur
> the wrath of those deities that rule the elements? Yes, Virginia,
> there is.
> 
> poseidon.jpg (19958 bytes) According to legend, each and every vessel
> is recorded by name in the Ledger of the Deep and is known personally
> to Poseidon, or Neptune, the god of the sea. It is logical therefore,
> if we wish to change the name of our boat, the first thing we must do
> is to purge its name from the Ledger of the Deep and from Poseidon's
> memory.
> 
> This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration
> of every trace of the boat's current identity. This is essential and
> must be done thoroughly.
> 
> I once went through the ceremony after the owner had assured me that
> every reference to his boat's old name had been purged from her. A
> couple of weeks later, he discovered he had missed a faded name on her
> floating key chain. I advised him to start over, perhaps with a little
> extra libation for the ruler of the sea. Unfortunately, he declined.
> 
> Since then, his boat has been struck by lightning, had its engine
> ruined by the ingress of the sea, been damaged by collision and
> finally sunk! It pays to be thorough.
> 
> In purging your boat, it is acceptable to use White-Out or some
> similar obliterating fluid to expunge the boat's name from log books,
> engine and maintenance records etc., but it is much easier to simply
> remove the offending document from the boat and start afresh. Don't
> forget the life rings and especially the transom and forward name
> boards.
> 
> Do not under any circumstances carry aboard any item bearing your
> boat's new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been
> completed!
> 
> Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed
> from her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the
> old name written on it in water-soluble ink. You will also need a
> bottle of reasonably good Rum. Plain old Rum won't cut it. Since this
> is an auspicious occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to
> witness and to party. Begin by invoking the name of the ruler of the
> deep as follows:
> 
> Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships
> and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage,
> implore you in your graciousness to expunge for all time from your
> records and recollection the name (here insert the old name of your
> vessel) which has ceased to be an entity in your kingdom. As proof
> thereof, we submit this ingot bearing her name to be corrupted through
> your powers and forever be purged from the sea. (At this point, the
> prepared metal tag is dropped from the bow of the boat into the sea.) 
> 
> In grateful acknowledgment of your munificence and dispensation, we
> offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (Pour at least
> half of the bottle of Rum into the sea from East to West. The
> remainder may be passed among your guests.
> 
> It is usual for the renaming ceremony to be conducted immediately
> following the purging ceremony, although it may be done at any time
> after the purging ceremony. For this portion of the proceedings, you
> will need more Rum, Much more because you have a few more gods to
> appease. Begin the renaming by again calling Poseidon as follows:
> 
> Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships
> and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage,
> implore you in your graciousness to take unto your records and
> recollection this worthy vessel hereafter and for all time known as
> (Here insert the new name you have chosen), guarding her with your
> mighty arm and trident and ensuring her of safe and rapid passage
> throughout her journeys within your realm.
> 
> In appreciation of your munificence, dispensation and in honor of your
> greatness, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court.
> (At this point, one bottle of Rum, less one glass for the master and
> one glass for the mate are poured into the sea from West to East.)
> 
> The next step in the renaming ceremony is to appease the gods of the
> winds. This will assure you of fair winds and smooth seas. Because the
> four winds are brothers, it is permissible to invoke them all at the
> same time, however, during the ceremony; you must address each by
> name. Begin in this manner:
> 
> Oh mighty rulers of the winds, through whose power our frail vessels
> traverse the wild and faceless deep, we implore you to grant this
> worthy vessel (Insert your boat's new name) the benefits and pleasures
> of your bounty, ensuring us of your gentle ministration according to
> our needs.(Facing north, pour a generous libation of Rum into a glass
> and fling to the North as you intone:) Great Boreas, exalted ruler of
> the North Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the
> pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming
> scourge of your frigid breath.(Facing west, pour the same amount of
> Rum and fling to the West while intoning:) Great Zephyrus, exalted
> ruler of the West Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers
> in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the
> overwhelming scourge of your wild breath.(Facing east, repeat and
> fling to the East.) Great Eurus, exalted ruler of the East Wind, grant
> us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful
> endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your mighty
> breath.
> 
> (Facing south, repeat, flinging to the South.) Great Notus, exalted
> ruler of the South Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers
> in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the
> overwhelming scourge of your scalding breath.
> 
> Of course, any Rum remaining will be the beginnings of a suitable
> celebration in honor of the occasion.
> 
> Once the ceremony has been completed, you may bring aboard any and all
> items bearing the new name of your vessel. If you must schedule the
> painting of the new name on the transom before the ceremony, be sure
> the name is not revealed before the ceremony is finished. It may be
> covered with bunting or some other suitable material.
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/5/2012 11:17:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> shawn.sustain at gmail.com writes:
> 
> Rummy:
> I understand your preference, but it is just that, a preference. I
> distinctly heard the gods smack their lips upon being offered
> wine...
> cheers,
> Shawn
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > RED WINE is not an acceptable liquid for the naming/renaming
> ritual. Rum,
> > good quality rum is the ONLY liquid that is recognized by the
> gods.
> > Anything
> > less will bring fire and damnation upon your vessel.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2012 2:29:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > shawn.sustain at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > Charles:
> >
> > I used a variation of ritual I found
> > here<http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/naming.html>.
> > I was not sure about her previous name(s) so I just asked the
> Gods to
> > retire them with honor.
> >
> > 1. Good red wine.
> > 2. Pour some on bow as libations to Gods
> > 3. Make your request for naming and protection.
> > 4. Toast the boat!
> >
> > BTW - Clean the bow quickly - Red wine stains...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Shawn
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Charles Nieman
> > <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am wanting/needing to change the name on my boat ..... have
> never
> > been
> > > clear on the proper proceedure. Can you describe and/or send
> me to a
> > [place
> > > to get the process described completely?
> > >
> > > Charles
> > > 98R22
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:11:32 -0700
> > > > From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie questions
> Suppliers/Anchoring/Sail
> > > Balance
> > > >
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > First, let me thank you for your kind welcome to the list!
> On May 30th
> > we
> > > > poured a libation to Poseidon and Aeolus to retire any
> previous names
> > of
> > > > our boat and know her henceforth as Sweet Baboo. ( I will
> forward
> > > > pictures).
> > > >
> > > > As I said I have a lot of questions. I looked in the archive
> for
> > answers
> > > > but did not find anything about my first 3 questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Do you have a favorite source for marine supplies? I just
> drove 70
> > > Miles
> > > > to the closest West marine store and , frankly, I was not
> impressed.
> > Nice
> > > > folks, but not much stock, expensive, and I pay shipping.
> Surely,
> > there
> > > is
> > > > something better.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Anchor rode and storage advice - we sail in a fairly
> shallow (avg
> > > depth
> > > > 7' max 30') reservoir and want to anchor out for the night.
> Stan
> > > supplied a
> > > > Danforth (looks like a 4-6 #) on bow pulpit but no
> chain/rode.
> > > >
> > > > - What would you recommend? I am thinking of 3/8" Premium
> > > > Anchor Line, 100', 4,400lb. with 3-5' of
> > > > chain. Does anyone have picture of how you store/deploy/
> > > > retrieve your anchor.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Lea Helm & Sail Balance. I have only been out a couple of
> times
> > (rainy
> > > > season has decided to prolong itself [?]) With 100% main and
> 100% jib
> > > (just
> > > > ahead of mast) I have a slight lea helm. This gets more
> pronounced as
> > I
> > > > unfurl more headsail.
> > > >
> > > > - is this normal? I am used to slight weather helm. Should
> > > > I care?
> > > > - what is best adjustment? traveler? mast rake? other?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for any advice.
> > > >
> > > > Shawn & Melva Boles
> > > > s/v Sweet Baboo ('86)
> > > >
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