[Rhodes22-list] correction Re: CDI Furler FF2

Michael D. Weisner mweisner at ebsmed.com
Wed May 9 15:36:21 EDT 2012


Last fall I purchased a 1991 Rhodes 22 equipped with a 175 Genoa on the GBI
furler.  The forestay was in two pieces when I bought the boat.  It shredded
and tore somewhere within the furling tube.  My guess is that one of the end
bearings had seized to the shroud and when the Genoa was furled or unfurled
it caused the wire to fray and to eventually fail.  The top bearing was not
found and the lower bearing was cracked in three places, probably the result
of UV damage to the plastic.  I find this very disturbing since the 1981
Rhodes that I own is equipped with a 150 Genoa on the GBI furler and has
never experienced such a problem.  I have never applied any lubricant to the
furler bearings in thirty years but I may start to look at such maintenance
now.  I am also looking at the design of the bearing to see if the failure
mode can be avoided.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ben Schultz
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:13 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] correction Re: CDI Furler FF2

Chris,

I had the same failure about a year ago.  For us, it happened as we were
jockeying for position at the start of a Wednesday night race, with a dozen
or so other bigger boats zig-zagging around us.  Quite an exciting evening!

I'm not sure if our furlers are the same, but for us, the repair was easy.
The old forestay slid out of the furling tube after removing a couple of
bolts and rings.  A local rigging shop fashioned a match very quickly, and
we were re-assembled and ready to sail again with just an 90 minutes or so
of re-assembly, including mast raising time.

Hope your repair turns out to be as easy.

Ben


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cowie
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:43 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] correction Re: CDI Furler FF2

Art:

No photos since the boat is not mine and is in Solomon's however the
following is a link to the CDI Furler FF2 PDF Manual.  Page 2 has a nice
diagram of the entire system that includes the forestay that is shown in
more detail on page 5. The  top of the forestay wire has a hardware fitting
that includes a toggle that connects to the top of the mast.  The toggle
remained attached to the mast and the hardware at the end of the forestay
wire failed causing a collapse of the entire assembly into the water.  The
CDI manual link below has some nice illustrations and description about the
system, parts, assembly and function.  The FF2 is the model that is on the
Solomon's R22 and also on my boat.

http://www.sailcdi.com/sailpdf/FF2%20manual%207_06.pdf



Christopher P. Cowie    


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Art
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:17 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] correction Re: sheet size

Cowie,

Is it possible to post a picture of where the failure took place.  I would,
others also, like to eyeball my furled rig for this.  Thanks for the heads
up.

Art

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From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
Sent: Tue May 08 12:32:46 EDT 2012
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] correction Re: sheet size


Mary Lou:

Thanks for the information. Sound like a nice set up. 

BTW I went sailing this past Saturday out of Solomon's on an older R22 in a
steady 10kt wind close haul and just made it to the other side of the
Chesapeake Bay when all of a sudden the top of the genoa exploded off the
top of the mast and was suddenly trailing in the water alongside the boat.
The good news is that Stan has provided extra stays to keep everything else
in place while we retrieved the genoa and motored back to port. It appears
that the forward stay that runs inside the CDI FF2 Furler simply snapped at
the top fitting. Seems like an odd piece to break and I suppose the only way
to fix it is to order a new stay from CDI.

Christopher P. Cowie    


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:33 AM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] correction Re: sheet size

Fred informs me that I had it backwards on the hinged leg that supports the
cabin berth. The forward end of the berth rests on a peg attached to the
compression post. This allows the hinged panel to lift to access the head
without disturbing the rest of the berth. The hinged leg supports the stern
end of the berth because that support had broken off the step on our boat.

Mary Lou

At 11:20 AM 5/8/2012, you wrote:
>We sleep in the cabin because we can keep the bugs out.
>
>We have a bedroll we made from two fleece blankets and two brushed 
>cotton flat sheets. I think they are doubles but the blankets are about 
>60" wide and the sheets are 70" wide. We sewed the foot of the fleece 
>blankets together and separately sewed the foot of the fleece blankets 
>together. Put some snaps (actually snap tape) at the foot of each so we 
>could snap sheets and blankets together, This allows us to quickly and 
>easily make the bed up at night and roll it up in the morning. The 
>whole thing rolls up and stores in a duffel but it's easy to get them 
>apart for washing. Very comfy. On a warm night, you can put both layers 
>of fleece underneath and on a cold night you could put both blanket 
>layers over you although we prefer to carry an extra fleece blanket.
>
>BTW - We use a swing out hinged leg to support the bow end of the 
>middle piece of the cabin berth so we can still get to the porta-potti.
>We have the semi-enclosed head. Originally the middle piece of the 
>cabin berth was supported by the forward piece which is also the hinged 
>piece that gives access to the head. The hinged support for the berth 
>is an arm that swings out from the support for the setee. It has a leg 
>that folds down and the forward end of the table which is the middle 
>section of the cabin berth rests on it.
>
>Best,
>Mary Lou
>1991 R22 Fretless
>Rock Hall, MD
>
>
>At 08:09 AM 5/8/2012, you wrote:
> >Thanks Art. My girls do in fact know how to sew, this idea should 
> >work. I also need to try out the cockpit filler cushions for more 
> >roomy accommodations.
> >
> >Christopher P. Cowie
> >
> >
> >Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Cover-Man
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:29 AM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sheet size
> >
> >Cowie,
> >
> >Just split a twin or full on a diagonal and have one of your girls 
> >sew into the resultant v shape and you will save the hassle of having 
> >oversized fabric. Do girls still know how to sew?
> >
> >Art
> >
> >Have a nice day!
> >
> >On May 6, 2012, at 5:22 PM, cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have been using a sleeping bag for my overnight sailing trips 
> > > and would like to move on to more traditional bedding. What sheet 
> > > size
> best fits the
> > > v berth and cabin berth? I also notice that the cabin cushions
> > slide around
> > > a lot and suppose a bottom sheet tucked into the cushions would
> > prevent such
> > > movement? Any other bedding ideas or suggestions?
> > > --
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