[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
Ric Stott
ric at steelbone.com
Fri Nov 8 15:40:10 EST 2013
We describe that kind of extreme camaraderie in these parts as a
Drinking Club with a Sailing problem.
Ric s/v Dadventure
On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:31 PM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> The four of us are the original Rhodes 22 extreme sailing team.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/8/2013 2:57:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> boendert at me.com writes:
>
> How much wind are we talking here? 25kts?
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You probably hit a drunken whale.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rick,
>>> Yes. RumRunner had mast in the water. Stan doesn't like me
>>> posting the
>>> story. :) Much alcohol and four experienced sailors were involved.
> Pushed
>>> the
>>> boat beyond its limits. What a day it was. We were well into our
>>> second
>>> bottle of rum.....and not the small ones.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 7:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Rummy,
>>>
>>> I missed your original post, but did you say you laid over a
>>> moving/sailing
>>> R22?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Art,
>>>> I know what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid
> RumRunner
>>>> over that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two
>>> batteries
>>>> and
>>>> water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on
> board
>>> so
>>>> I have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had the rail
>>>> buried
>>> most
>>>> of the day and it was rounding up frequently just prior to
>>>> getting
>>> knocked
>>>> down by a 180 degree wind change. It still is one of my best
>>>> days
>>> sailing.
>>>> I will try to get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I
> don't
>>>> believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the
>>>> Corps
>>> is
>>>> determined to drop it four feet for the winter.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M. Eastern Standard
>>>> Time,
>>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>>>
>>>> Rummy,
>>>>
>>>> Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster! And the sage wisdom
>>>> of
>>> Captain
>>>> Keller. Have you ever noticed a change of waterline length
>>>> of the
> R22
>>>> when heeling or with additional ballast forrward, such a key
>>>> factor
> in
>>>> the
>>>> hull speed?
>>>>
>>>> Are Bob and Sheila getting out on blue water yet? I want to
>>>> get the
>>> name
>>>> of his new Yankee Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR.
>>>>
>>>> I hope all is well with you and your boat. Like, plenty of
>>>> water
> this
>>>> year...
>>>>
>>>> R,
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day !
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>> Date: 11/07/2013 11:24 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>
>>>> Art,
>>>> Hull speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of ballast
> (crew),
>>>> enough wind and a lot of rum.
>>>> I spent last weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob
> Keller
>>>> (Former Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him
>>>> Catalina 310.
>>> Had
>>>> enough wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than the
>>>> rated
>>> hull
>>>> speed
>>>> for his boat.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M. Eastern Standard
>>>> Time,
>>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>>>
>>>> Think of it, guys - what a terrible shame that with our
>>>> infinite
> vigor
>>>> and
>>>> boundless brilliance we are still confined to the hull
>>>> speed. We
> need
>>>> some more help from our fearless leader!
>>>>
>>>> Well, back to a glass of Sherry in the BR...
>>>>
>>>> Rummy, where are you?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day !
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>>>> Date: 11/05/2013 3:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>
>>>> Ric, et al;
>>>> For the UPS, I have a seperate halyard that is there for
>>>> whatever I
>>>> choose
>>>> to hoist (ie flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is just
>>>> bangs
> the
>>>> mast like everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't want to be
>>>> the only
>>>> quiet
>>>> boat on a breezy day :-)) I have found that while the UPS is self
>>> furling,
>>>> it
>>>> has a tendancy to try to come out if you hoist it just to motor
>>>> out
> or
>>>> other times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am
>>>> ready to
>>>> deploy (if
>>>> it is anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since I
>>>> know I
> won't
>>> be
>>>> using it)
>>>>
>>>> On the question about the furler, I am presuming you are asking
> about
>>> the
>>>> 130; and I cannot answer. I have never had the sail off the
>>>> furling
>>> tube
>>>> (I
>>>> have on the main, and that sail has the groove in the furling
>>>> tube
>>> that
>>>> one inserts the sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while
> under
>>>> full
>>>> sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>> From: ric at steelbone.com
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:00:01 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>>
>>>>> HI Charles
>>>>> Thanks for your input
>>>>> Personally I think a 130 and the UPS are a great combination
>>>>> for
> the
>>>>> Rhodes 22.
>>>>> Questions.
>>>>> How do you hoist you UPS?
>>>>> Do you have a dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
>>>>> Do you have a modern roller furler with a luff groove?
>>>>> Ric Stott
>>>>> s/v Dadventure - '84
>>>>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Charles Nieman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Art
>>>>>> I had a 175 on my old R22, I thought it was a great sail and
>>>>>> probably used too much of it when I should have reefed. I
>>>>>> got a
>>> new
>>>>>> to me R22 that had a 130 and I seriously thought about
>>>>>> changing to
>>> a
>>>>
>>>>>> 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make that
>>> move,
>>>>>> plus the new boat also has a UPS for really light air (the
>>> observed
>>>>>> problem with the 175 was when you really need that much
>>>>>> sail, it
>>> is
>>>>>> too heavy to work). I am so pleased with the 130 and UPS, I
>>>>>> will
>>> not
>>>>
>>>>>> be going back to the 175 when these wear out (I also doubt
>>>>>> the UPS
>>>>>> will wear out, since I only use it in very light air, which
>>> usually
>>>>>> means too hot to be out there, here in Texas).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I am on a Texas lake, and If you are thinking in regards
>>>>>> to
>>> your
>>>>
>>>>>> Florida location, it may be totally different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One man's opinion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>> 98 R 22
>>>>>> s/v Daydream
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:44:06 +0000
>>>>>>> From: cover-man at comcast.net
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am contemplating getting the 130, but curious to get any
>>> feedback
>>>>>>> on your performance experience. Thx.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art
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