[Rhodes22-list] The Curse of Ethanol

[marlangreen at gmail.com]

Art,

I know of one marina that sells non-ethanol gasoline in Deale, MD. Last
spring Fawcett Marine in Annapolis was considering obtaining and selling
non-ethanol fuel. I am sure that there are other marinas in the area that
sell non-ethanol fuel. I know a lot of people with outboards who are
desperate to find non-ethanol because they are tired of the problems it
brings.

I have not noticed any running difference on my Mercury 4 Stroke 9.9 hp
engine. It starts right up. I can take it up to full throttle and it runs
like a dream. I only experienced the motor being run on traditional auto
gas once and that was during the test sail I took before I purchased the
boat and while that was over a year ago. I think the engine runs fine with
av gas.

I have had not problems with the motor using av gas, but now that I have
written those words on the electronic page I suppose I'll have problems the
next time I go to start the engine.

Marlan
s/v Nautisaurus
Mayo, MD & Washington, DC






On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Art Czerwonky <cover-man at comcast.net> wrote:

> Marlin,
>
> What have you learned about the octane effect on the engine.  Avgas is
> typically 100 octane, occasionally available at 80/87.  I haven't seen this
> solution used, but it sounds plausible if it does not damage the engine.
>  As an oddity, the Exxon station at Lavonia, Ga (lake Hartwell) has
> non-ethanol now.  I doubt you could find non in the Annapolis/DC area, and
> only a few south along the Potomac.
>
> Art
>
> marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I bought my Rhodes last October. Fortunately, it had a very recently
> >purchased (2011) and little used Mercury 4 stroke. Over the winter I spoke
> >to several outboard mechanics about the ethanol issue and did some
> >research. I considered the fuel additive for ethanol, but in the end went
> a
> >different direction.
> >
> >My current approach is to purchase aviation gas from a local regional
> >airport. It' runs $5 - $7 a gallon and sometimes even a bit higher, but it
> >has no ethanol in it. I feel like it is worth the money to prevent any
> >ethanol problems. Some marinas here on the Chesapeake are stocking a
> >similar gasoline that doesn't have ethanol. It has a specific name, but I
> >don't remember what it is called. Anyway, I just thought I would pass that
> >along.
> >
> >Marlan
> >s/v Nautisaurus
> >Mayo, MD & Washington, DC
> >www.nautisaurus.com
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Georges,
> >>
> >> Ethanol dissolves rubber and plastic.  If the fuel tank and hose to your
> >> motor are 1984 vintage, change them to newer resistant items.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Carman George <
> >> carmangeorge1326 at hotmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello everyone!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My wife and I are new members and this is our first message.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We own a 1984 recycled Rhodes 22 and are in our third season sailing
> the
> >> > top of Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately, our Yamaha 4 stroke 9.9 HP has
> >> > experienced fouling issues apparently as a result of ethanol. The carb
> >> has
> >> > been cleaned and serviced twice this season and I have installed a 10
> >> > micron in-line fuel filter as well as Yamalube fuel additive to new
> fuel.
> >> > We took out the boat last Friday and the engine ran fine outbound for
> 20
> >> > minutes. On the return it kept cutting out every 30 - 45 seconds. Boat
> >> U.S.
> >> > ultimately had to tow us in (they did a great job).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone experienced similar issues? The only thing left is have
> >> someone
> >> > professionally clean out the tank but that's all I can think of.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The Rhodes is a fine sailboat but oh those engines and that lousy
> >> ethanol!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Frank and Linda George
> >> >
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