[Rhodes22-list] The Curse of Ethanol

Eric ejor2 at aol.com
Wed Sep 11 12:28:53 EDT 2013


I have had the 5 hp for about 6 months, pleased with it so far. Plenty of power for inland lake, would probably want more hp for ocean. 

Eric J. 

On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:

> Considering a propane outboard
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:03 PM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Art,
>> Another issue with avgas is that it contains lead which pollutes the water  
>> the exhaust goes into. Not environmentally friendly and frowned (prohibited 
>> from  using) upon by most states.
>> Most marina's and a few gas stations close to Lake Hartwell sell boat gas  
>> which is ethanol free. I also use it in the tractor, tiller, chain saw, 
>> SeaDoo,  wife's Chaparral and leaf blower. It costs more (about $.50 a gallon) 
>> but I  don't have the carb and fuel line issues to deal with.
>> 
>> Rummy
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 9/9/2013 3:53:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>> 
>> Marlin,
>> 
>> What have you learned about the octane effect on the  engine.  Avgas is 
>> typically 100 octane, occasionally available at  80/87.  I haven't seen this 
>> solution used, but it sounds plausible if it  does not damage the engine.  As 
>> an oddity, the Exxon station at Lavonia,  Ga (lake Hartwell) has non-ethanol 
>> now.  I doubt you could find non in  the Annapolis/DC area, and only a few 
>> south along the  Potomac.
>> 
>> Art
>> 
>> marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi  all,
>>> 
>>> I bought my Rhodes last October. Fortunately, it had a  very recently
>>> purchased (2011) and little used Mercury 4 stroke. Over  the winter I spoke
>>> to several outboard mechanics about the ethanol  issue and did some
>>> research. I considered the fuel additive for  ethanol, but in the end went
>> a
>>> different direction.
>>> 
>>> My  current approach is to purchase aviation gas from a local  regional
>>> airport. It' runs $5 - $7 a gallon and sometimes even a bit  higher, but it
>>> has no ethanol in it. I feel like it is worth the money  to prevent any
>>> ethanol problems. Some marinas here on the Chesapeake  are stocking a
>>> similar gasoline that doesn't have ethanol. It has a  specific name, but I
>>> don't remember what it is called. Anyway, I just  thought I would pass that
>>> along.
>>> 
>>> Marlan
>>> s/v  Nautisaurus
>>> Mayo, MD & Washington,  DC
>>> www.nautisaurus.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 9,  2013 at 12:27 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Georges,
>>>> 
>>>> Ethanol  dissolves rubber and plastic.  If the fuel tank and hose to  
>> your
>>>> motor are 1984 vintage, change them to newer resistant  items.
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On  Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Carman George <
>>>> carmangeorge1326 at hotmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My wife and I are new members and this is our first  message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We own a 1984 recycled Rhodes 22 and are in our third season sailing  
>> the
>>>>> top of Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately, our Yamaha 4 stroke  9.9 HP has
>>>>> experienced fouling issues apparently as a result  of ethanol. The carb
>>>> has
>>>>> been cleaned and  serviced twice this season and I have installed a 10
>>>>> micron  in-line fuel filter as well as Yamalube fuel additive to new 
>> fuel.
>>>>> We took out the boat last Friday and the engine ran fine outbound for
>> 20
>>>>> minutes. On the return it kept cutting out every 30 - 45  seconds. Boat
>>>> U.S.
>>>>> ultimately had to tow us in  (they did a great job).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone experienced similar issues? The only thing  left is have
>>>> someone
>>>>> professionally clean out the  tank but that's all I can think of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Rhodes is a fine sailboat but oh  those engines and that lousy
>>>> ethanol!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank and Linda George
>>>>> 
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