[Rhodes22-list] A tree stand for a Rhodes22 and boat lift

Fri Sep 27 14:16:40 EDT 2013

Rob:
Here is a picture of the lift with reduced resolution - hopefully that will
work.
The picture of your Balboa 26 did not come through when all of your other
pictures made it through fine. I wonder if the problem is with the server
rather than the resolution. My attached photo is only 104 Kb.

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rob Granger
Sent: September-27-13 2:01 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A tree stand for a Rhodes22 and boat lift

Hi Graham

The pics did not come through....

I'd like to see them.  Can you try posting again?  I do a lot of tinkering
with boats and something more permanent might be useful.

Here is a pic of my Balboa 26 lift....  not sexy at all....  :-(

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>wrote:

> Hi Rob:
>
> Actually I got both postings and all photos. These latter shots are 
> great and explain what you did very well.
>
> One of the valuable lessons I have learned since joining this last 
> over the last year is that I have a tendency to go way overboard on 
> everything I do in relation to boats along with the related great 
> expenditures of  time and money. I am constantly chagrined to see the 
> simple solutions others have found to problems that I have put enormous
energy into - unnecessarily.
> Building a rig to lift the boat off the trailer is no exception. It is 
> a bit embarrassing to post a picture and description of the lift I 
> built now but It might still be of interest to those interested in 
> having a permanent and transportable lift that will raise a variety of  
> boats way up - i.e., 5 to
> 6
> feet - for bottom work. Even with this rationale it still looks 
> ridiculous now. It is one of those projects that started as a simple 
> weekend project and bit by bit grew into something that barely 
> resembles what I had in mind initially. I have been obsessing about 
> how strong the lift needs to be. You rig gives me some confidence that 
> mine should be sufficient and I appreciate that very much. I feel 
> safer now that I see that tow straps and a picnic table can  suffice - 
> although I realize that you have blocked your boat before you actually 
> started working on the hull. There is something about being killed by 
> having your boat fall on you that seems reflective of poor seamanship 
> to say the least and have peoples' last impression of me as being a 
> complete idiot.
>
> I have built the lift for my Rhodes but I will also use for my other 
> boats
> -
> a small pontoon boat and a 19' wooden outboard.  In my case I wanted 
> to raise the boat very high as I need to get right under the keel to 
> work on a big crack that has developed on the very bottom of the keel. 
> I didn't want to do that lying on my back with my head under the keel 
> and  that weight trying to come down on me. It would have worked but I
lacked the courage.
>
> I have attached a picture of the yet unproven lift. Because of heart 
> surgery this year I did  not actually get to use the lift with the 
> Rhodes yet although It worked quite nicely with my much lighter 
> pontoon boat. The reason that I am posting these specs now is that if 
> the thing come down on me next spring you will all know to make yours 
> a bit stronger. Otherwise I will post pictures of the boat on the left 
> next spring.
>
> What the picture does not show are the lifting slings which are 
> endless loop slings rated at #9600. To hoist the boat I will be using 
> two 2 ton chain hosts. The cable is 3/16 rated at #2200 working load 
> and #4200 breaking.
> There are four of them so that should be sufficient. The 6 blocks are 
> rated at 8 tons each which I acknowledge is way overkill but the 
> cheaper ones had only 2" sheaves and that takes a significant on on 
> the strength of the cable. Given that they cost me $15 on sale there 
> was nothing to save going smaller. The legs are 12' 6x6 and the beams 
> are made of three 2x8s. In addition to the lifting straps I will have 
> two independently rigged #3000 straps similar to yours as a safety. 
> Once I have lifted the boat up I plan to attach cross beams under the 
> boat to take the weight off the straps and hold the boat steady.
>
> I move the lift using my utility trailer rigged up with two lifting 
> arms operated by come-along winches and towed by my 25 year old 12hp 
> garden tractor. I use the same rig to move my floating boathouse when 
> it is on land.
>
>
>
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rob Granger
> Sent: September-26-13 5:58 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A tree stand for a Rhodes22
>
> Hey guys.
>
> I don't know if my last response on this came through or not.  I was 
> asked to comment about the stand I made for my Rhodes and I responded 
> with a bunch of pics... the post got bounced back because it was too 
> large and then I could not find the original in my gMail... so... here 
> are a few answers to your questions...
>
> Yes, the back of the boat is sitting on a picnic table.  I backed up 
> the boat, lowered the tongue and slid the table underneath, the stern.  
> Then I used the trailers jack to lift the tongue as high as it would 
> go.  I slipped two tow straps around the boat and tightened them up, 
> lowered the tongue and pulled the trailer out.
>
> Next I blocked off the stern, and keel and then took some of the 
> pressure off of the tow straps with an auto jack.  I removed one of the
straps.
> The remaining strap is rated at 3000# but it is not holding up the 
> entire mass of the boat.  The boat is blocked and the strap provides 
> lateral support.  See pics.
>
> I hope I answered all of your questions.  If not just shoot another email.
>
> The other Rob
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Sweet Briar College
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