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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug  1 07:26:37 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 07:26:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel work progressing?
Message-ID: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>

Graham,
 
Another option you have to speed up the evaporation process would be with  
heat. I'll let you figure out how to do it. I recall someone else that did 
this  using electric heaters.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 7/31/2014 6:55:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Thanks  Rummy:

I have tried both sucking and blowing. The water is at the  bottom of the
keel in and around the cement fill which is cracked so I  can't get a tube
down there to suck up the water. So now I have drilled  some holes at the
outside bottom of the keel and have the  shop vac  blowing in from the top 
in
the hope that the pressure will push the water  out. It is working to some
degree and at least I can see if the water is  dripping. When I drill a new
hole I often find that the material the comes  out is damp. I doubt that
either strategy will work and even evaporation  seems problematic as the
water is in and around the keel material where  there would be very little
air circulating. If I seal it up while there is  any significant water in
there I might well have the problem of the cracks  develop come freeze up. 

I have wondered about these options: 

-  trying to flush out the moisture with alcohol,
- adding antifreeze and seal  it up,
- just let the vacuum go for as long as it takes,
- cutting out  large chunks of the sides of the keel and remove what is 
there
and letting  the area air dry,
- pour in thinned epoxy, epoxy paint or polyester  thinking it would go to
the bottom and displace the water up where it might  do less damage or be
more prone to evaporation.

None of these  options are particularly appealing either because they might
not work or  involve a huge effort - I have kind of had my fill with huge
efforts. I am  rally annoyed with myself for letting this happen. With the
large cracks  open for three years I at least figured that any water in the
keel would  have drained out. Now that I have nicely sealed the cracks I 
have
water in  the keel. 

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
Email
List
Sent: July-31-14 8:41 AM
To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel  work progressing?

Graham,
Good idea of using the shop vac, but I  think you will have better results 
if
you taped it off and sucked instead  of blowing. I have used this method to
remove moisture from several  projects over the years including industrial
flat  roofs that were  saturated with water.
I recently purchased ($113.00 from Amazon) a cheap 10  x 20 canopy to put
RumRunner under so that I can rebed her ports. Rains  here are hard to
predict  and she won't fit into my garage.  

Rummy


In a message dated 7/30/2014 7:13:58 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  writes:

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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug  1 09:27:02 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 09:27:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel work progressing?
In-Reply-To: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00de01cfad8c$4a6c9350$df45b9f0$@ca>

Thanks to all for their suggestions. It seems like the consensus is to find
a way to heat the keel. That makes sense and very helpful to know what
temperature to aim for. If that doesn't work the bulldozer with a jet engine
is next. I'll let you all know what happens. Meanwhile I gave myself a nasty
cut with the band saw and that is slowing me down. 

Graham Stewart
gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
613 389-1737


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-01-14 7:27 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel work progressing?

Graham,
 
Another option you have to speed up the evaporation process would be with
heat. I'll let you figure out how to do it. I recall someone else that did
this  using electric heaters.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 7/31/2014 6:55:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Thanks  Rummy:

I have tried both sucking and blowing. The water is at the  bottom of the
keel in and around the cement fill which is cracked so I  can't get a tube
down there to suck up the water. So now I have drilled  some holes at the
outside bottom of the keel and have the  shop vac  blowing in from the top
in the hope that the pressure will push the water  out. It is working to
some degree and at least I can see if the water is  dripping. When I drill a
new hole I often find that the material the comes  out is damp. I doubt that
either strategy will work and even evaporation  seems problematic as the
water is in and around the keel material where  there would be very little
air circulating. If I seal it up while there is  any significant water in
there I might well have the problem of the cracks  develop come freeze up. 

I have wondered about these options: 

-  trying to flush out the moisture with alcohol,
- adding antifreeze and seal  it up,
- just let the vacuum go for as long as it takes,
- cutting out  large chunks of the sides of the keel and remove what is
there and letting  the area air dry,
- pour in thinned epoxy, epoxy paint or polyester  thinking it would go to
the bottom and displace the water up where it might  do less damage or be
more prone to evaporation.

None of these  options are particularly appealing either because they might
not work or  involve a huge effort - I have kind of had my fill with huge
efforts. I am  rally annoyed with myself for letting this happen. With the
large cracks  open for three years I at least figured that any water in the
keel would  have drained out. Now that I have nicely sealed the cracks I
have water in  the keel. 

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
Email List
Sent: July-31-14 8:41 AM
To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel  work progressing?

Graham,
Good idea of using the shop vac, but I  think you will have better results
if you taped it off and sucked instead  of blowing. I have used this method
to remove moisture from several  projects over the years including
industrial flat  roofs that were  saturated with water.
I recently purchased ($113.00 from Amazon) a cheap 10  x 20 canopy to put
RumRunner under so that I can rebed her ports. Rains  here are hard to
predict  and she won't fit into my garage.  

Rummy


In a message dated 7/30/2014 7:13:58 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  writes:

http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20140730/7d8876d
7/attachment.jpg   

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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug  1 10:12:41 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:12:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes for sale
Message-ID: <CFECCD9A-ACB3-4539-9048-9F5811BE1149@gmail.com>

Rhodes for sale. Recycled in 2007.
Fully loaded excellent condition
Call 201-765-6301

Sent from my iPhone

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug  1 10:17:36 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:17:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Correction on phone number
Message-ID: <C80D25E8-CDF1-42AF-AC63-7584B0707BA9@gmail.com>

Correct phone number is 201-755-6301 Sale 

Sent from my iPhone

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug  2 11:40:03 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 11:40:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel cavities
In-Reply-To: <00de01cfad8c$4a6c9350$df45b9f0$@ca>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
	<00de01cfad8c$4a6c9350$df45b9f0$@ca>
Message-ID: <010001cfae68$07588fb0$1609af10$@ca>

For those who are dying to know how the process of drying out the keel is
going, I thought I would post a couple of pictures showing what I am doing. 

I plugged the holes in the sole of the boat and drilled drain holes at the
bottom of the keel and then adjusted the boat fore and aft so that the
bottom of the keel was horizontal. I then made an adapter from plumbing bits
and pieces and shop vac parts that I then inserted into voids on both sides
of the keel like a stethoscope, attached it to the blower side of the vac
and turned it on. The point of the double sided adapter was simply to allow
more air in and to do both sides at the same time. 

Water started dripping from several holes immediately that had not come out
through gravity alone so that is a good sign. I plan to just let it blow
until I think any remaining water has evaporated. The air going in is heated
by the vac to about 110 degrees at the vac and about 90 degrees where it
enters the keel. I will monitor the temperature of the base of the keel in
the hope that as it dries the temperature will raise and then stabilize.

The inside of the boat is about 120 degrees in the sun as I have a heavy
brown tarp covering it. That should dry out any remaining moisture  that
might be in the boat.

I am keeping my fingers crossed - except for the one that my band saw took a
liking to.

Graham 



-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-01-14 9:27 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel work progressing?

Thanks to all for their suggestions. It seems like the consensus is to find
a way to heat the keel. That makes sense and very helpful to know what
temperature to aim for. If that doesn't work the bulldozer with a jet engine
is next. I'll let you all know what happens. Meanwhile I gave myself a nasty
cut with the band saw and that is slowing me down. 

Graham Stewart
gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
613 389-1737


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-01-14 7:27 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel work progressing?

Graham,
 
Another option you have to speed up the evaporation process would be with
heat. I'll let you figure out how to do it. I recall someone else that did
this  using electric heaters.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 7/31/2014 6:55:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Thanks  Rummy:

I have tried both sucking and blowing. The water is at the  bottom of the
keel in and around the cement fill which is cracked so I  can't get a tube
down there to suck up the water. So now I have drilled  some holes at the
outside bottom of the keel and have the  shop vac  blowing in from the top
in the hope that the pressure will push the water  out. It is working to
some degree and at least I can see if the water is  dripping. When I drill a
new hole I often find that the material the comes  out is damp. I doubt that
either strategy will work and even evaporation  seems problematic as the
water is in and around the keel material where  there would be very little
air circulating. If I seal it up while there is  any significant water in
there I might well have the problem of the cracks  develop come freeze up. 

I have wondered about these options: 

-  trying to flush out the moisture with alcohol,
- adding antifreeze and seal  it up,
- just let the vacuum go for as long as it takes,
- cutting out  large chunks of the sides of the keel and remove what is
there and letting  the area air dry,
- pour in thinned epoxy, epoxy paint or polyester  thinking it would go to
the bottom and displace the water up where it might  do less damage or be
more prone to evaporation.

None of these  options are particularly appealing either because they might
not work or  involve a huge effort - I have kind of had my fill with huge
efforts. I am  rally annoyed with myself for letting this happen. With the
large cracks  open for three years I at least figured that any water in the
keel would  have drained out. Now that I have nicely sealed the cracks I
have water in  the keel. 

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
Email List
Sent: July-31-14 8:41 AM
To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How's your keel  work progressing?

Graham,
Good idea of using the shop vac, but I  think you will have better results
if you taped it off and sucked instead  of blowing. I have used this method
to remove moisture from several  projects over the years including
industrial flat  roofs that were  saturated with water.
I recently purchased ($113.00 from Amazon) a cheap 10  x 20 canopy to put
RumRunner under so that I can rebed her ports. Rains  here are hard to
predict  and she won't fit into my garage.  

Rummy


In a message dated 7/30/2014 7:13:58 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  writes:

http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20140730/7d8876d
7/attachment.jpg   

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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug  2 12:38:08 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:38:08 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel cavities
In-Reply-To: <010001cfae68$07588fb0$1609af10$@ca>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>	<00de01cfad8c$4a6c9350$df45b9f0$@ca>
	<010001cfae68$07588fb0$1609af10$@ca>
Message-ID: <003801cfae70$24c5b2a0$6e5117e0$@com>

Using a shop vac as a heater... who would have thought?

"I gave myself a nasty cut with the band saw and that is slowing me down" -
followed immediately by "I plugged the holes in the sole of the boat and
drilled drain holes at the bottom of the keel and then adjusted the boat
fore and aft so that the bottom of the keel was horizontal. I then made an
adapter from plumbing bits and pieces and shop vac parts that I then
inserted into voids on both sides of the keel like a stethoscope, attached
it to the blower side of the vac..."

Your pace while working one handed is making me look bad Graham. 

Dennis
Magic Moments
Bobbing around in Lake Erie


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:40 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel cavities

For those who are dying to know how the process of drying out the keel is
going, I thought I would post a couple of pictures showing what I am doing. 

I plugged the holes in the sole of the boat and drilled drain holes at the
bottom of the keel and then adjusted the boat fore and aft so that the
bottom of the keel was horizontal. I then made an adapter from plumbing bits
and pieces and shop vac parts that I then inserted into voids on both sides
of the keel like a stethoscope, attached it to the blower side of the vac
and turned it on. The point of the double sided adapter was simply to allow
more air in and to do both sides at the same time. 

Water started dripping from several holes immediately 



From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug  3 15:47:21 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:47:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel cavities
In-Reply-To: <003801cfae70$24c5b2a0$6e5117e0$@com>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
	<00de01cfad8c$4a6c9350$df45b9f0$@ca>
	<010001cfae68$07588fb0$1609af10$@ca>
	<003801cfae70$24c5b2a0$6e5117e0$@com>
Message-ID: <011901cfaf53$bddbaab0$39930010$@ca>

Dennis:

It just means that while working on the boat I had to give up playing the
piano with my left hand. 

What really brings me to a halt is having grandkids here for the weekend.

Graham 


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-02-14 12:38 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel cavities

Using a shop vac as a heater... who would have thought?

"I gave myself a nasty cut with the band saw and that is slowing me down" -
followed immediately by "I plugged the holes in the sole of the boat and
drilled drain holes at the bottom of the keel and then adjusted the boat
fore and aft so that the bottom of the keel was horizontal. I then made an
adapter from plumbing bits and pieces and shop vac parts that I then
inserted into voids on both sides of the keel like a stethoscope, attached
it to the blower side of the vac..."

Your pace while working one handed is making me look bad Graham. 

Dennis
Magic Moments
Bobbing around in Lake Erie


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:40 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel cavities

For those who are dying to know how the process of drying out the keel is
going, I thought I would post a couple of pictures showing what I am doing. 

I plugged the holes in the sole of the boat and drilled drain holes at the
bottom of the keel and then adjusted the boat fore and aft so that the
bottom of the keel was horizontal. I then made an adapter from plumbing bits
and pieces and shop vac parts that I then inserted into voids on both sides
of the keel like a stethoscope, attached it to the blower side of the vac
and turned it on. The point of the double sided adapter was simply to allow
more air in and to do both sides at the same time. 

Water started dripping from several holes immediately 


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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 07:17:44 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 07:17:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Grand kids & Drying out the keel cavities
Message-ID: <666f.2eb30935.4110c5d8@aol.com>

Graham,
I think you are missing out on a real opportunity here. Put the grand kids  
to work.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2014 3:47:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Dennis:

It just means that while working on the boat I had  to give up playing the
piano with my left hand. 

What really brings  me to a halt is having grandkids here for the weekend.

Graham  


-----Original Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
Email
List
Sent: August-02-14 12:38 PM
To:  'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel  cavities

Using a shop vac as a heater... who would have  thought?

"I gave myself a nasty cut with the band saw and that is  slowing me down" -
followed immediately by "I plugged the holes in the sole  of the boat and
drilled drain holes at the bottom of the keel and then  adjusted the boat
fore and aft so that the bottom of the keel was  horizontal. I then made an
adapter from plumbing bits and pieces and shop  vac parts that I then
inserted into voids on both sides of the keel like a  stethoscope, attached
it to the blower side of the vac..."

Your pace  while working one handed is making me look bad Graham. 

Dennis
Magic  Moments
Bobbing around in Lake Erie


-----Original  Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
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List
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014  11:40 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Drying out the keel cavities

For those who are dying to know how the  process of drying out the keel is
going, I thought I would post a couple of  pictures showing what I am 
doing. 

I plugged the holes in the sole of  the boat and drilled drain holes at the
bottom of the keel and then  adjusted the boat fore and aft so that the
bottom of the keel was  horizontal. I then made an adapter from plumbing 
bits
and pieces and shop  vac parts that I then inserted into voids on both sides
of the keel like a  stethoscope, attached it to the blower side of the vac
and turned it on.  The point of the double sided adapter was simply to allow
more air in and  to do both sides at the same time. 

Water started dripping from several  holes immediately  


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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 11:43:31 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
Message-ID: <1407167011271-48413.post@n5.nabble.com>

I usually sail single handed. Moderate chop, light winds, 8-10. I usually
start out with full jib, 150, and about 2/3 main, cb down fully, into wind.
Invariably the wind builds to 10-12 or more....sometimes I reduce headsail
to about 120, sometimes don't and just hang on for the ride...sheets
outside, boom in lower position, rails 6-10 above water. I weigh about
250.... 
What do you usually find best for you. Ps...coastal bay, tidal salt
water....



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Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 12:11:00 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:11:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Grand kids & Drying out the keel cavities
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Good idea Rummy. I just need to think of something she can do from her high
chair.

Graham 

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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Grand kids & Drying out the keel cavities

Graham,
I think you are missing out on a real opportunity here. Put the grand kids
to work.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2014 3:47:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Dennis:

It just means that while working on the boat I had  to give up playing the
piano with my left hand. 

What really brings  me to a halt is having grandkids here for the weekend.

Graham  


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Email List
Sent: August-02-14 12:38 PM
To:  'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Drying out the keel  cavities

Using a shop vac as a heater... who would have  thought?

"I gave myself a nasty cut with the band saw and that is  slowing me down" -
followed immediately by "I plugged the holes in the sole  of the boat and
drilled drain holes at the bottom of the keel and then  adjusted the boat
fore and aft so that the bottom of the keel was  horizontal. I then made an
adapter from plumbing bits and pieces and shop  vac parts that I then
inserted into voids on both sides of the keel like a  stethoscope, attached
it to the blower side of the vac..."

Your pace  while working one handed is making me look bad Graham. 

Dennis
Magic  Moments
Bobbing around in Lake Erie


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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Drying out the keel cavities

For those who are dying to know how the  process of drying out the keel is
going, I thought I would post a couple of  pictures showing what I am doing.


I plugged the holes in the sole of  the boat and drilled drain holes at the
bottom of the keel and then  adjusted the boat fore and aft so that the
bottom of the keel was  horizontal. I then made an adapter from plumbing
bits and pieces and shop  vac parts that I then inserted into voids on both
sides of the keel like a  stethoscope, attached it to the blower side of the
vac and turned it on.  The point of the double sided adapter was simply to
allow more air in and  to do both sides at the same time. 

Water started dripping from several  holes immediately  


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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 15:59:30 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:59:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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I sail the open water of Lake Erie with full sails and pop top up to about
12 knots before furling down.  An autohelm is a big help for single handing.

Rick


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:43 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I usually sail single handed. Moderate chop, light winds, 8-10. I usually
> start out with full jib, 150, and about 2/3 main, cb down fully, into wind.
> Invariably the wind builds to 10-12 or more....sometimes I reduce headsail
> to about 120, sometimes don't and just hang on for the ride...sheets
> outside, boom in lower position, rails 6-10 above water. I weigh about
> 250....
> What do you usually find best for you. Ps...coastal bay, tidal salt
> water....
>
>
>
> -----
> Chris Greco
> Long Island, NY
> Great South Bay
> 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
> --
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 16:43:01 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:43:01 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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Rick:

What is the size of your head sail? Is it a 175? I find that having the 175
all the way out with a full main and pop top up  makes for a rough ride in
12kts.

Cheers,
Shawn
S/V Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I sail the open water of Lake Erie with full sails and pop top up to about
> 12 knots before furling down.  An autohelm is a big help for single
> handing.
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:43 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I usually sail single handed. Moderate chop, light winds, 8-10. I usually
> > start out with full jib, 150, and about 2/3 main, cb down fully, into
> wind.
> > Invariably the wind builds to 10-12 or more....sometimes I reduce
> headsail
> > to about 120, sometimes don't and just hang on for the ride...sheets
> > outside, boom in lower position, rails 6-10 above water. I weigh about
> > 250....
> > What do you usually find best for you. Ps...coastal bay, tidal salt
> > water....
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Chris Greco
> > Long Island, NY
> > Great South Bay
> > 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 17:20:15 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:20:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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No...mine is a 150 I believe....smooth water helps a lot, but on the Great
South Bay , off Long Island south shore, with the wind from the south or
southwest, it can build up an annoying chop, especially with boat traffic on
weekends. When it's from the north, things stay smoother as my marina is on
the north side of the bay. Guess you can tell, I like it smooth!



-----
Chris Greco
Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 18:04:21 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:04:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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Smooth water makes a tremendous difference. We rarely get it on the 
weekends on the Chesapeake but sometimes find it midweek.

BTW, we don't sail with the poptop up if there are other boats 
around. Every now and then we end up crossing huge wakes with water 
over the bow and maybe even across the cabin top. It's that maybe 
that we're trying avoid.

We've also discovered that having the bimini up in much more than 12 
knots affects the way the boat handles.

Best
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
recycled 1998
Rock Hall, MD


At 05:20 PM 8/4/2014, you wrote:
>No...mine is a 150 I believe....smooth water helps a lot, but on the Great
>South Bay , off Long Island south shore, with the wind from the south or
>southwest, it can build up an annoying chop, especially with boat traffic on
>weekends. When it's from the north, things stay smoother as my marina is on
>the north side of the bay. Guess you can tell, I like it smooth!
>
>
>
>-----
>Chris Greco
>Long Island, NY
>Great South Bay
>1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 18:30:06 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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Just to say...the chop does not stop me from sailing, of course, but it does
limit my use of the outboard...generally only use it to sail out of the
marina and usually return under sail power...much more reliable and don't
have to worry about motor cavitating. Definitely having good sailing this
summer.



-----
Chris Greco
Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 18:39:26 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:39:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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I sail Grand Traverse Bay single-handed.  10-12 knots is about my limit --
I'm usually quite alone out there and the water is cold, especially this
year.  I'm not worried about the boat going over as much as I am me going
over.  I'm learning to not put out the entire 175 jib unless there's just a
minor breeze.  I also will drop the boom to the lower setting if the wind is
gusty.

Can you provide more details on the autohelm?  How does it work, how is it
affixed to the boat, how much do they cost?  I would think it would be great
for single-handing.  I can hardly move around much when I'm out there.

Thanks,

Bruce M.
s/v Tuxedo
'88 refurbished



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 18:50:10 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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I have 175 genoa with cam cleat and then cleat on furling line. I raise main
standing in the cabin on the little ledge so no worries about going
overboard raising/lowering main sail. Main has reef points but not jiffy
reef so would probably just drop if got too windy. Davis tiller tamer on
tiller so can lock it down while heading into wind or heaving to (boat
heaves to remarkably well). Also standard tiller extension so I can steer
from inside cabin. Anchor in laz in case all goes to s$#@t.

On a lake in Iowa. Weather pretty predictable except pop up t-storms.

-- Steve



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 19:16:09 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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As it seems I am getting older...I am more cautious... Used to sail a lot on
Long Island Sound, solo, and never thought twice about falling over....and
that was in 60-100 feet of water..not that that really matters seeing I'm
only 5'2"....   :) 
But as of late my knees are getting unpredictable thanks to 30 years of
roofing and 32 years of teaching, on my feet all day... So now I always suit
up in a brightly colored PFD and choose my motions about the boat carefully,
even tho the Great South is rarely over 10 feet deep. Also when sitting on
rails aft of the cabin make sure I have a good grip on cabin handholds.
Going forward when necessary, the Rhodes has plenty to hold on to. Stan and
company really built us a great boat.



-----
Chris Greco
Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 20:02:57 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:02:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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Tiller Tender - $30 - wouldn't sail single handed without it.  Its kinda
iffy trying to raise my non-IMF main without something holding the tiller
steady.  I don't know if I could get in/out of the marina single handled
under sail alone though.

-- 
Curtis
1979 Rhodes s/v Ruck It
Havre de Grace, MD


--
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Anytime: 210-857-1126


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:16 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> As it seems I am getting older...I am more cautious... Used to sail a lot
> on
> Long Island Sound, solo, and never thought twice about falling over....and
> that was in 60-100 feet of water..not that that really matters seeing I'm
> only 5'2"....   :)
> But as of late my knees are getting unpredictable thanks to 30 years of
> roofing and 32 years of teaching, on my feet all day... So now I always
> suit
> up in a brightly colored PFD and choose my motions about the boat
> carefully,
> even tho the Great South is rarely over 10 feet deep. Also when sitting on
> rails aft of the cabin make sure I have a good grip on cabin handholds.
> Going forward when necessary, the Rhodes has plenty to hold on to. Stan and
> company really built us a great boat.
>
>
>
> -----
> Chris Greco
> Long Island, NY
> Great South Bay
> 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 20:38:35 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:38:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reefing the IMF main
Message-ID: <CADTV67H_yYV_144mG7EUZQOHKiqy7nBCXZVNvEa-Jv_5C5XYKQ@mail.gmail.com>

I read in a post today about reefing the main vertically by only pulling
out so much.  Obviously that affects the shape.  I prefer to lower the main
and keep it all the way out.  I have not tried to only use part of the main.

We have a 175 jib ( I was told by the previous owner it was 200%, but
corrected here that it had to be 175) and can get decent performance in
gusty winds with what looks like 75% out.  Seldom do I pull all 175% out.
 It is Doyle.  If replaced I would probably go with 135.

Curious about others experience.


Regards,

David B. Craft
Greensboro, NC

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 20:47:10 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:47:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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Under those conditions, lower pop top, lower main sail slider on mast. Full or close to full main. Tighten the Rhodes equivalent of the out hall to flatten main. Unfurl the 150 until you feel comfortable with the heel. 

On a close reach, put on a bit of windward  traveler to center the boom. If a gust hits, reduce traveler, then tighten again when boat has a comfortable heel. Centerboard fully down when on close reach. crew Weight forward

On broad reach a lot of centerboard prevents an uncontrolled breach, but slows the boat. A bit more genny gives more speed.

On a run, full main, full genny, just a bit of centerboard, traveler centered. Weight in stern.

Joe



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> On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:43 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I usually sail single handed. Moderate chop, light winds, 8-10. I usually
> start out with full jib, 150, and about 2/3 main, cb down fully, into wind.
> Invariably the wind builds to 10-12 or more....sometimes I reduce headsail
> to about 120, sometimes don't and just hang on for the ride...sheets
> outside, boom in lower position, rails 6-10 above water. I weigh about
> 250.... 
> What do you usually find best for you. Ps...coastal bay, tidal salt
> water....
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Chris Greco
> Long Island, NY
> Great South Bay
> 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
> --
> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/HOW-DO-YOU-SAIL-SINGLEHANDED-tp48413.html
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 21:32:28 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:32:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
In-Reply-To: <197190FE-AAB7-4ADC-9022-F442656DA6DF@snet.net>
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	<197190FE-AAB7-4ADC-9022-F442656DA6DF@snet.net>
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Working my way up to full main.....learned the secret of lower boom position
and working the traveller more than previous years....had my traveller and
main rigged wrong b4 this season but lots of reading on this site revealed
that to me... It was how I took position of my Rhodes. PO had traveller way
high....over my head and didn't utilize the boom car properly. Thinking
about trying a few sails with the jib down to about 100% and the sheets
inside to see how that handles. Plan to have cb maybe 1/3 up. 
Sailing into the slip is getting easy, 3 turns...out is another story.
Working my skills to a higher level..Whoo hoo!



-----
Chris Greco
Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 22:27:19 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 19:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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When single-handling our Rhodes, not only do I wear a PFD but I also tether
myself to the boat with a harness I sewed from Sailrite years ago.  I also
agree that it is very important to move deliberately and keep a hand on the
boat.  I enjoy single-handling the Rhodes, but don't lose sight of the
inherent risk.

We sail on 40 mile long Cayuga Lake (Finger Lakes in upstate NY), and see a
variety of conditions.  I'm a little jealous of those of you on the South
Shore, LI Sound and the Chesapeake since you probably have more consistent
winds.  Like others have posted, 20-25 knots is the most we have been out
in, and that is with both sails partially furled and the boom in the lower
position.

Regards,
Don Simons



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 22:47:34 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 19:47:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reefing the IMF main
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Thought I read that the 175 is 200 sq ft...



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Great South Bay
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug  4 22:58:40 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 19:58:40 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reefing the IMF main
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IMF is 110 sf and 175 is 220 sf I believe.

Cheers,
Shawn
S/V Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)



On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:47 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Thought I read that the 175 is 200 sq ft...
>
>
>
> -----
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> Long Island, NY
> Great South Bay
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug  5 09:35:23 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:35:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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	<CAMzGxuOKBQj80215bVTY+JATgXVE2KfBG-aCn7tJ7qZVizd0_w@mail.gmail.com>
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Shawn,

I have a 175.  If you're bothered by heel, try easing the main and/or
tightening the topping lift.  I furl down long before dropping the pop top
and boom.

Rick


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Rick:
>
> What is the size of your head sail? Is it a 175? I find that having the 175
> all the way out with a full main and pop top up  makes for a rough ride in
> 12kts.
>
> Cheers,
> Shawn
> S/V Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I sail the open water of Lake Erie with full sails and pop top up to
> about
> > 12 knots before furling down.  An autohelm is a big help for single
> > handing.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:43 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I usually sail single handed. Moderate chop, light winds, 8-10. I
> usually
> > > start out with full jib, 150, and about 2/3 main, cb down fully, into
> > wind.
> > > Invariably the wind builds to 10-12 or more....sometimes I reduce
> > headsail
> > > to about 120, sometimes don't and just hang on for the ride...sheets
> > > outside, boom in lower position, rails 6-10 above water. I weigh about
> > > 250....
> > > What do you usually find best for you. Ps...coastal bay, tidal salt
> > > water....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Chris Greco
> > > Long Island, NY
> > > Great South Bay
> > > 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
> > > --
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug  5 09:48:09 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:48:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
In-Reply-To: <1407191966534-48420.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Bruce,

Raymarine makes what they call a tiller pilot.  It attaches to the
starboard gunwale and the underside of the tiller.  It steers by compass
setting.  I have a remote control that lets me steer from anywhere on the
boat.

Rick


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I sail Grand Traverse Bay single-handed.  10-12 knots is about my limit --
> I'm usually quite alone out there and the water is cold, especially this
> year.  I'm not worried about the boat going over as much as I am me going
> over.  I'm learning to not put out the entire 175 jib unless there's just a
> minor breeze.  I also will drop the boom to the lower setting if the wind
> is
> gusty.
>
> Can you provide more details on the autohelm?  How does it work, how is it
> affixed to the boat, how much do they cost?  I would think it would be
> great
> for single-handing.  I can hardly move around much when I'm out there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce M.
> s/v Tuxedo
> '88 refurbished
>
>
>
> --
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug  5 10:44:48 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:44:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
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I had a little more complicated set up, pole that clipped on both ends so it
could not come out of the eye on the sail as well as a track and eyelet set
up on front of mast. made for easiest deployment but as stated, may have
been over thinking



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug  5 12:58:12 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:58:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
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I have the same.  The rod end comes out too easy.  Not over thinking, but
right thinking.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I had a little more complicated set up, pole that clipped on both ends so
> it
> could not come out of the eye on the sail as well as a track and eyelet set
> up on front of mast. made for easiest deployment but as stated, may have
> been over thinking
>
>
>
> --
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug  6 13:17:55 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:17:55 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?
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Message-ID: <F7BAFE5621D1D2458203055DDAF9D13F27E75F2E@COWIE-SRV01.CowieSBS.local>

I have the raymarine tiller pilot and find it an essential extra set of hands when sailing 8 hrs or more across the Chesapeake Bay for an overnight trip.  Out on the Bay anything over 10 knts tends to come with a decent amount of chop and by that point I have my 175 reefed in and start to lower the main or reef the main with the pop top down.  This has been an off year for me with graduations, weddings, travel etc... my boat has been in Edenton since last October and will probably stay until spring 2015 but she comes back home to DC with a 130 to replace the 175 and a trailer.  Maybe with the kids out of the house I will get to trailer back up to Oyster Bay NY and Charlevoix Michigan.

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]


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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:48 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] HOW DO YOU SAIL SINGLEHANDED?

Bruce,

Raymarine makes what they call a tiller pilot.  It attaches to the starboard gunwale and the underside of the tiller.  It steers by compass setting.  I have a remote control that lets me steer from anywhere on the boat.

Rick


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I sail Grand Traverse Bay single-handed.  10-12 knots is about my 
> limit -- I'm usually quite alone out there and the water is cold, 
> especially this year.  I'm not worried about the boat going over as 
> much as I am me going over.  I'm learning to not put out the entire 
> 175 jib unless there's just a minor breeze.  I also will drop the boom 
> to the lower setting if the wind is gusty.
>
> Can you provide more details on the autohelm?  How does it work, how 
> is it affixed to the boat, how much do they cost?  I would think it 
> would be great for single-handing.  I can hardly move around much when 
> I'm out there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce M.
> s/v Tuxedo
> '88 refurbished
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 14:18:33 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:18:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
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All,

Thanks for the advice with the whisker pole.  Thursday I was able to get
out and hit my hull speed of 5.3 knots going wing-on-wing.  Once i started
using the Whisker pole that came with the boat, I found someone had put a
red mark on the pole on how far to extend it.  Once I got it out, and got
the wind behind me, I was flying... though the 170 roller furling genny is
a heavy sail to fly like that.

I also noticed about a knot slowdown if I had the centerboard down (forgot
at first).

Another question, somewhat related, when i'm single handing... it looks
like the best I can do for tacking up wind is about 100-110 degree tack
angle.  Center board is down, I don't think I can fly the 170 inside the
shrouds as its too long, and the sail would hit the spreader.  I'm using my
poor man's "rope" traveller, but still able to get the boom on the
centerline... but can't improve the tacking angle any further.  Any
suggestions?

--
Curtis
Havre de Grace, MD
s/v Ruck It



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I have the same.  The rod end comes out too easy.  Not over thinking, but
> right thinking.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I had a little more complicated set up, pole that clipped on both ends so
> > it
> > could not come out of the eye on the sail as well as a track and eyelet
> set
> > up on front of mast. made for easiest deployment but as stated, may have
> > been over thinking
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/wing-on-wing-w-whisker-pole-tp48382p48432.html
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 14:39:22 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:39:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast
Message-ID: <453F981A-0431-495B-B15F-635371F8D6B9@gmail.com>

Does anyone know how much ballast weight is molded into the keel of our boats?  I know I?ve seen that stat somewhere but I can?t seem to find it on the GB web site.  

Thanks,

Dave

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 16:16:34 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:16:34 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
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   Curtis
   In my opinion the 170 is too much  sail to get that close to the wind
   anyway. I used to have one and I never tried moving the sheets inboard
   on the shrouds. I currently have the 130, (and much happier) and when
   I shift the sheets inboard, I still have to furl the jib to about 100%
   but have been amazed how much closer she will get to the wind. I would
   suggest furling to whatever size you need to use the inner cleats and
   see how tight to the wind she will get.
   Charles
   s/v Daydream
   98 Rhodes 22
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   On Aug 10, 2014, 1:18 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List wrote:
All,

Thanks for the advice with the whisker pole.  Thursday I was able to get
out and hit my hull speed of 5.3 knots going wing-on-wing.  Once i started
using the Whisker pole that came with the boat, I found someone had put a
red mark on the pole on how far to extend it.  Once I got it out, and got
the wind behind me, I was flying... though the 170 roller furling genny is
a heavy sail to fly like that.

I also noticed about a knot slowdown if I had the centerboard down (forgot
at first).

Another question, somewhat related, when i'm single handing... it looks
like the best I can do for tacking up wind is about 100-110 degree tack
angle.  Center board is down, I don't think I can fly the 170 inside the
shrouds as its too long, and the sail would hit the spreader.  I'm using my
poor man's "rope" traveller, but still able to get the boom on the
centerline... but can't improve the tacking angle any further.  Any
suggestions?

--
Curtis
Havre de Grace, MD
s/v Ruck It



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I have the same.  The rod end comes out too easy.  Not over thinking, but
> right thinking.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I had a little more complicated set up, pole that clipped on both ends so
> > it
> > could not come out of the eye on the sail as well as a track and eyelet
> set
> > up on front of mast. made for easiest deployment but as stated, may have
> > been over thinking
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/wing-on-wing-w-whisker-pole-tp48382p48
432.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 17:45:57 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:45:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast
In-Reply-To: <453F981A-0431-495B-B15F-635371F8D6B9@gmail.com>
References: <453F981A-0431-495B-B15F-635371F8D6B9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1407707157730-48439.post@n5.nabble.com>

I seem to recall from my research prior to purchasing an '88, the ballast was
700 lbs.

Bruce M.
s/v Tuxedo
GT Bay, MI



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 17:54:59 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
In-Reply-To: <CAFgGLFcTO8dpqK0CUWL5c01MN3dXC8euYTmhsK4R7prRXaN5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFgGLFcnmMXXFfRaXRFQaidza6z2mzb+_rpGakZqa0ahhhKOnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7919.4f545b6a.40fd15c1@aol.com>
	<1407249888981-48432.post@n5.nabble.com>
	<CABkv36Zs3m7ajgB195eo1YzqpxdpuukH1VEMMGrRDQv44hpg4Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgGLFcTO8dpqK0CUWL5c01MN3dXC8euYTmhsK4R7prRXaN5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1407707699222-48440.post@n5.nabble.com>

I just came in from a sail in light winds (<5-6 knots, I think) and sailed
upwind with the full 175 deployed outside the shrouds and pulled tight and
reached 4.4 knots according to my smart phone.  I don't have instrumentation
for the angle to the wind, but the pointer on top of the mast was nearly
straight ahead to maybe 20 degrees.

Bruce M.
s/v Tuxedo



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 18:02:14 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast
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References: <453F981A-0431-495B-B15F-635371F8D6B9@gmail.com>
	<1407707157730-48439.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuNkMmZ=V6f0CcR=5J9SCkd-fe_CgZJ8=S0yaC-A8UPxEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi:

I have ballast of 600 Lbs and displacement of 2000 lbs in my notes


Cheers,
Shawn
S/V Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)



On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:45 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I seem to recall from my research prior to purchasing an '88, the ballast
> was
> 700 lbs.
>
> Bruce M.
> s/v Tuxedo
> GT Bay, MI
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 10 19:37:24 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:37:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuNkMmZ=V6f0CcR=5J9SCkd-fe_CgZJ8=S0yaC-A8UPxEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <453F981A-0431-495B-B15F-635371F8D6B9@gmail.com>
	<1407707157730-48439.post@n5.nabble.com>
	<CAMzGxuNkMmZ=V6f0CcR=5J9SCkd-fe_CgZJ8=S0yaC-A8UPxEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E0F4B3E9-FBBA-498D-9798-A5D0BE099985@gmail.com>

Thanks all. 

Dave

> On Aug 10, 2014, at 6:02 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I have ballast of 600 Lbs and displacement of 2000 lbs in my notes
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Shawn
> S/V Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:45 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> I seem to recall from my research prior to purchasing an '88, the ballast
>> was
>> 700 lbs.
>> 
>> Bruce M.
>> s/v Tuxedo
>> GT Bay, MI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context:
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 11 08:59:00 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:59:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuNkMmZ=V6f0CcR=5J9SCkd-fe_CgZJ8=S0yaC-A8UPxEQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<1407707157730-48439.post@n5.nabble.com>
	<CAMzGxuNkMmZ=V6f0CcR=5J9SCkd-fe_CgZJ8=S0yaC-A8UPxEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02ab01cfb564$05572cf0$100586d0$@ca>

You can get all of the specs for the Rhodes Continental, including ballast,
here: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=193 

Graham 


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-10-14 6:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast

Hi:

I have ballast of 600 Lbs and displacement of 2000 lbs in my notes


Cheers,
Shawn
S/V Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)



On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:45 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I seem to recall from my research prior to purchasing an '88, the 
> ballast was
> 700 lbs.
>
> Bruce M.
> s/v Tuxedo
> GT Bay, MI
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Ballast-tp48437p48439.html
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 11 09:21:31 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:21:31 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
In-Reply-To: <CAFgGLFcTO8dpqK0CUWL5c01MN3dXC8euYTmhsK4R7prRXaN5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFgGLFcnmMXXFfRaXRFQaidza6z2mzb+_rpGakZqa0ahhhKOnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7919.4f545b6a.40fd15c1@aol.com>	<1407249888981-48432.post@n5.nabble.com>
	<CABkv36Zs3m7ajgB195eo1YzqpxdpuukH1VEMMGrRDQv44hpg4Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgGLFcTO8dpqK0CUWL5c01MN3dXC8euYTmhsK4R7prRXaN5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F7BAFE5621D1D2458203055DDAF9D13F27E82184@COWIE-SRV01.CowieSBS.local>

I think the 130 is the answer to better pointing and I look forward to testing it next season.

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]


Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 2:19 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole

All,

Thanks for the advice with the whisker pole.  Thursday I was able to get out and hit my hull speed of 5.3 knots going wing-on-wing.  Once i started using the Whisker pole that came with the boat, I found someone had put a red mark on the pole on how far to extend it.  Once I got it out, and got the wind behind me, I was flying... though the 170 roller furling genny is a heavy sail to fly like that.

I also noticed about a knot slowdown if I had the centerboard down (forgot at first).

Another question, somewhat related, when i'm single handing... it looks like the best I can do for tacking up wind is about 100-110 degree tack angle.  Center board is down, I don't think I can fly the 170 inside the shrouds as its too long, and the sail would hit the spreader.  I'm using my poor man's "rope" traveller, but still able to get the boom on the centerline... but can't improve the tacking angle any further.  Any suggestions?

--
Curtis
Havre de Grace, MD
s/v Ruck It



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I have the same.  The rod end comes out too easy.  Not over thinking, 
> but right thinking.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I had a little more complicated set up, pole that clipped on both 
> > ends so it could not come out of the eye on the sail as well as a 
> > track and eyelet
> set
> > up on front of mast. made for easiest deployment but as stated, may 
> > have been over thinking
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/wing-on-wing-w-whisker-pole-tp4
> 8382p48432.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > __________________________________________________
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 11 10:14:52 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:14:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
In-Reply-To: <F7BAFE5621D1D2458203055DDAF9D13F27E82184@COWIE-SRV01.CowieSBS.local>
References: <CAFgGLFcnmMXXFfRaXRFQaidza6z2mzb+_rpGakZqa0ahhhKOnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7919.4f545b6a.40fd15c1@aol.com>
	<1407249888981-48432.post@n5.nabble.com>
	<CABkv36Zs3m7ajgB195eo1YzqpxdpuukH1VEMMGrRDQv44hpg4Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFgGLFcTO8dpqK0CUWL5c01MN3dXC8euYTmhsK4R7prRXaN5gQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F7BAFE5621D1D2458203055DDAF9D13F27E82184@COWIE-SRV01.CowieSBS.local>
Message-ID: <A88B239E-3366-4C8E-B5F6-C3A2481D6BC0@gmail.com>

I've found the 130 to be an improvement for pointing, ease/speed/grace of coming about, improved visibility forward. Really worth the investment. 

Dave

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:21 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I think the 130 is the answer to better pointing and I look forward to testing it next season.
> 
> Christopher P. Cowie    
> 
> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> Suite 300
> Washington, DC 20007
> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> 
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 2:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] wing-on-wing w/ whisker pole
> 
> All,
> 
> Thanks for the advice with the whisker pole.  Thursday I was able to get out and hit my hull speed of 5.3 knots going wing-on-wing.  Once i started using the Whisker pole that came with the boat, I found someone had put a red mark on the pole on how far to extend it.  Once I got it out, and got the wind behind me, I was flying... though the 170 roller furling genny is a heavy sail to fly like that.
> 
> I also noticed about a knot slowdown if I had the centerboard down (forgot at first).
> 
> Another question, somewhat related, when i'm single handing... it looks like the best I can do for tacking up wind is about 100-110 degree tack angle.  Center board is down, I don't think I can fly the 170 inside the shrouds as its too long, and the sail would hit the spreader.  I'm using my poor man's "rope" traveller, but still able to get the boom on the centerline... but can't improve the tacking angle any further.  Any suggestions?
> 
> --
> Curtis
> Havre de Grace, MD
> s/v Ruck It
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same.  The rod end comes out too easy.  Not over thinking, 
>> but right thinking.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I had a little more complicated set up, pole that clipped on both 
>>> ends so it could not come out of the eye on the sail as well as a 
>>> track and eyelet
>> set
>>> up on front of mast. made for easiest deployment but as stated, may 
>>> have been over thinking
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/wing-on-wing-w-whisker-pole-tp4
>> 8382p48432.html
>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
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>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>> __________________________________________________
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 11 11:53:26 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:53:26 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] taste of edenton
Message-ID: <A87D92F4-1583-4952-9E5D-6381A8BEE7F8@theskinnyonbenny.com>

http://www.waterwayguide.com/waterway-updates/news/CAR-GA/3962/Get-tickets-now-for-Taste-of-Edenton-Sept-12?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News-and-Navigation-Blasts&utm_content=CWU-8-7-2014-final

Saw this link and thought I?d pass it on, in case any of you have a boat to pick up this September.  

I?ve been quiet, but I?m still reading your posts.  Hope everyone?s sailing as much as I am this summer!

Ben



From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 12 21:15:07 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:15:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale
Message-ID: <CAJE9CtW-Phcq_85qTsu=i5M7suRMteU34mW=q2arD7kTdOqCCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I have a 1988 R22 for sale.  Its in the water in Ithaca NY.

If interest or know of anyone with interest let me know via email.

Best Regards,

James Edwards
edwards855 at gmail.com

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 13 08:54:39 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:54:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <CAJE9CtW-Phcq_85qTsu=i5M7suRMteU34mW=q2arD7kTdOqCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJE9CtW-Phcq_85qTsu=i5M7suRMteU34mW=q2arD7kTdOqCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B35854A834B7@rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>

James,
Some more info would be helpful.  Description of boat and equipment.  Price.  Any pictures? - Rob

Rob Lowe
S/V still no name

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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:15 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale

Hello All,

I have a 1988 R22 for sale.  Its in the water in Ithaca NY.

If interest or know of anyone with interest let me know via email.

Best Regards,

James Edwards
edwards855 at gmail.com
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 13 14:48:23 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:48:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B35854A834B7@rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
References: <CAJE9CtW-Phcq_85qTsu=i5M7suRMteU34mW=q2arD7kTdOqCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B35854A834B7@rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <A639E4D0-BA9D-4B63-9677-F543E44B049D@gmail.com>

Give me a call and I will give all the information you need

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:54 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> James,
> Some more info would be helpful.  Description of boat and equipment.  Price.  Any pictures? - Rob
> 
> Rob Lowe
> S/V still no name
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:15 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have a 1988 R22 for sale.  Its in the water in Ithaca NY.
> 
> If interest or know of anyone with interest let me know via email.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> James Edwards
> edwards855 at gmail.com
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 13 20:57:10 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:57:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3534, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1407945627.65731.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.1.1407945627.65731.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CAJE9CtVOLW33VYnLYWPbJ=Ftx4cEwdGop27BKJAuau=1kXds2A@mail.gmail.com>

Rob,


Thanks for the reply, I was a bit sparse with information so I will add
more.  My Rhodes is a 1988 that I believe spent its first years in FL.  The
previous owner brought it up to Ithaca NY in 2007.  I found it on
Craigslist in 2009 and have completed my own ?recycle? program ? mostly
before I found about this list serve.  Dropped out the centerboard, put it
all back together again and have resealed the gasket with no issues.  Sent
the 170 and main to Sail Care two years ago so both sails are in very good
condition.  Bought a new battery and solar charger.  Did a lot of wiring ?
could use a bit more.  Bought a brand new 6 HP Tohatsu which does just fine
for Cayuga Lake.  Took off all bottom paint and built up a new layer ? it
does need a trace touch up now though.  It?s in the water sailing in Cayuga
Lake at present without significant issues.  Included are: IMF in mast
furling main; roller furling 170 jib; galley with water pump and sink,
porta-poti, extended v berth, convertible setee, bimini, hand-made surround
for the raised hatch with netting and poly windows, plywood to fill the
cockpit; closed cell foam cockpit and filer cushions, solar battery
charger, mast raising kit.  Dry bilge under sail in all conditions, dry
also in dock except all day heavy rain when gathers a cup of water ?
looking for the source?Inspected 1988 Trailmaster trailer with hydraulic
surge drum brakes and with tongue extension for launching ? much rebuilt ?
new rubber, needs new fenders eventually ? just hauled the boat AOK.  I am
selling this boat because my wife sailing partner developed a medical
condition that precludes her from rough and tumble sailing.  I can?t
pretend to be an expert at worth but bought the boat for $7,500, spent $ on
the above, and somehow have decided to ask $6,850 for it now.  As with
things I am very fond of - would like to see it have a happy next move if
possible. I have emailed Stan to see if he would come and grab it but I
assume he has not been checking email or my idea was not such a great one.
Anyway this is a totally seaworthy boat in the water sailing well and w/o
significant issues on the water or the road.  It could be recycled and
improved of course but I do not see the need, unless you just need things
Bristol.  I will attempt to add photo.

Best Regards,

James Edwards
edwards855 at gmail.com


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> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale
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> Hello All,
>
> I have a 1988 R22 for sale.  Its in the water in Ithaca NY.
>
> If interest or know of anyone with interest let me know via email.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> James Edwards
> edwards855 at gmail.com
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:54:39 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 1988 R22 For Sale
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> James,
> Some more info would be helpful.  Description of boat and equipment.
>  Price.  Any pictures? - Rob
>
> Rob Lowe
> S/V still no name
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a 1988 R22 for sale.  Its in the water in Ithaca NY.
>
> If interest or know of anyone with interest let me know via email.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> James Edwards
> edwards855 at gmail.com
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 19 15:31:15 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:31:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress on keel repair and sanding the slot
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As some of you will remember I was working on the keel and in particular
wondering how I might fill voids that I found within it. I have just
completed filling the keel, as best I could with polyester resin. I did this
by drilling holes along the top of the keel from the outside and anywhere I
thought there might be a void. I searched for voids by tapping the surface
with a wooden handle of a large screwdriver. This is not a fool-proof method
in that after drilling some holes I found no indication of a void. On the
other hand I also found some large voids. I also drilled about 6 holes down
into the keel through the cabin sole. I injected the resin, thinned slightly
with acetone, into the holes in the side of the keel until the void would
take no more. I would then cover the hole with masking tape and move up
higher and inject the resin there. Once I had injected as much resin as I
could through the side holes, I covered them with masking tape and injected
more resin down through the holes in the cabin sole. In total I injected 3
gallons and am still not certain I have filled all of the voids. Still,
three gallons represents  a lot of space particularly if it becomes filled
with water and then freezes. 

If you are anything like me, you have spent countless hours thinking about
how to sand the inside slot of the keel. The slot is about 1' deep and
varies in width from about .5" at the stern to about 2" in the middle. The
best that I could come up with was to attach a round sanding pad with a 20
grit disk to an aluminium strip, reinforced with .5" strip of aluminium
angel stock that was in turn attached to a scraper attachment for a
reciprocating saw  - see attached picture. This works to a point. The
problem is that the inside of the slot is not smooth. There are many dips
and valleys that the sander cannot reach short of excessive sanding of the
surrounding area. The other problem is that it is very difficult to see what
is happening and you are unable to feel more than a few inches into the slot
with your fingers. For the ends of the slot where the sander it to thick to
reach I taped a strip of coarse sandpaper to a length of .5" metal conduit
and sanded it manually- see picture attached.

If anyone has developed a better way to thoroughly sand or otherwise remove
antifouling paint from the slot I would appreciate hearing about it. Since I
will be coating the hull with epoxy I would like to so the same with the
slot but I worry that remaining antifouling paint in the slot will not allow
the epoxy to bond.

Finally, I have completed the osmosis and hull repair in that I have dug out
any blisters or cracked gelcoat and filled with epoxy and filler. I have
attached two photos that show the extent of the repair in some areas. Where
the front of the trailer bunk pressed in on the hull I found that the cracks
extended through the gelcoat and into the substrate - although not through
the substrate as best I could tell. This required grinding out the area and
patching it with several layers of cloth before using the filler to fair the
area. Later I will reinforce the hull on the inside. In some areas the
gelcoat blistering was extensive and did not become visible until the
surface was sanded at which point small openings that looked like a rash
became visible. By rights I should have removed the gelcoat completely and I
worry that the repair will be inadequate. But the prospect of that much
grinding and fairing was more than I could contemplate. Given that the boat
is 40 years old, I figure that if my repair lasts as long as the original
gel coat, I will be happy. I will be 107 by then an probably past my active
sailing stage anyway.


Graham 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Thu Aug 21 20:58:12 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:58:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
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Message-ID: <01b601cfbda4$260965b0$721c3110$@ca>

Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add one to my
boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how others dealt with
that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did you need to build up a
collar for it. 

Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the hatch
installed at the factory?
Thanks,

Graham 


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Thu Aug 21 21:18:22 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:18:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <01b601cfbda4$260965b0$721c3110$@ca>
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You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install it...the deck
curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. Be fairly generous
with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you install the internal trim
before screwing everything down.

Cheers
Richard
S/V Waif R22




On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add one to
> my
> boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how others dealt with
> that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did you need to build up a
> collar for it.
>
> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the hatch
> installed at the factory?
> Thanks,
>
> Graham
>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 22 00:27:36 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:27:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
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References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <000601cfbdc1$66d95290$348bf7b0$@ca>

Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch

You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install it...the deck
curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. Be fairly generous
with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you install the internal trim
before screwing everything down.

Cheers
Richard
S/V Waif R22




On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add one 
> to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how others 
> dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did you need 
> to build up a collar for it.
>
> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the 
> hatch installed at the factory?
> Thanks,
>
> Graham
>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 22 10:07:28 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:07:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <000601cfbdc1$66d95290$348bf7b0$@ca>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
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I used a couple of Bomars that I found on eBay. I believe the factory uses
a plastic framed hatch when they recycle. This might be a better option as
they are more flexible than the aluminum frames.

Richard


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?
>
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> Email
> List
> Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>
> You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install it...the deck
> curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. Be fairly generous
> with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you install the internal trim
> before screwing everything down.
>
> Cheers
> Richard
> S/V Waif R22
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add one
> > to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how others
> > dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did you need
> > to build up a collar for it.
> >
> > Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the
> > hatch installed at the factory?
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 22 18:25:49 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:25:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9Zapui=KR3tmCXTp4ynJ2xKJ75ftutvaY671a8ncKmVbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
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	<003801cfae70$24c5b2a0$6e5117e0$@com>
	<011901cfaf53$bddbaab0$39930010$@ca>
	<00b701cfbbe4$24bf05f0$6e3d11d0$@ca>
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Message-ID: <38B51C70-1558-48E5-AE5B-A1335A4DA80A@bellsouth.net>

Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the hatch.  GB installs adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the mast.  I believe most new boats (and some re-cycled) have two installed.

Our 2010 had two installed as part of the build.  Very nice.

Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on eBay. I believe the factory uses
> a plastic framed hatch when they recycle. This might be a better option as
> they are more flexible than the aluminum frames.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
>> Email
>> List
>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>> 
>> You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install it...the deck
>> curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. Be fairly generous
>> with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you install the internal trim
>> before screwing everything down.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Richard
>> S/V Waif R22
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add one
>>> to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how others
>>> dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did you need
>>> to build up a collar for it.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the
>>> hatch installed at the factory?
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
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>> 
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>> 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug 23 17:32:46 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 17:32:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
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Bob:
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the make and size of the hatches? Are
they metal or plastic? Are they installed directly on your cabin top or on a
built up collar of some sort?
Thanks,

Graham 


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch

Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the hatch.  GB installs
adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the mast.  I believe most new boats
(and some re-cycled) have two installed.

Our 2010 had two installed as part of the build.  Very nice.

Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on eBay. I believe the factory 
> uses a plastic framed hatch when they recycle. This might be a better 
> option as they are more flexible than the aluminum frames.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 
>> 22 Email List
>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>> 
>> You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>> it...the deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. 
>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you 
>> install the internal trim before screwing everything down.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Richard
>> S/V Waif R22
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add 
>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how 
>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did 
>>> you need to build up a collar for it.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the 
>>> hatch installed at the factory?
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> __________________________________________________

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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug 23 21:59:45 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:59:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <003c01cfbf19$c7ff03e0$57fd0ba0$@ca>
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Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC mountains and will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be able to tell you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat back in the water.

Sorry I can not be more helpful.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Bob:
> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the make and size of the hatches? Are
> they metal or plastic? Are they installed directly on your cabin top or on a
> built up collar of some sort?
> Thanks,
> 
> Graham 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> 
> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the hatch.  GB installs
> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the mast.  I believe most new boats
> (and some re-cycled) have two installed.
> 
> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the build.  Very nice.
> 
> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on eBay. I believe the factory 
>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they recycle. This might be a better 
>> option as they are more flexible than the aluminum frames.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 
>>> 22 Email List
>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>> 
>>> You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>>> it...the deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. 
>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you 
>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything down.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Richard
>>> S/V Waif R22
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add 
>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how 
>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did 
>>>> you need to build up a collar for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the 
>>>> hatch installed at the factory?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
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> __________________________________________________


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug 23 22:47:53 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:47:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
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Bob:

Of course. I will write Stan. I should have thought to do that in the first
place. Thanks for your help. Enjoy the mountains.

Graham 

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-23-14 10:00 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch

Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC mountains and
will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be able to tell you
the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat back in the
water.

Sorry I can not be more helpful.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Bob:
> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the make and size of the hatches? 
> Are they metal or plastic? Are they installed directly on your cabin 
> top or on a built up collar of some sort?
> Thanks,
> 
> Graham
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
> Email List
> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> 
> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the hatch.  GB 
> installs adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the mast.  I believe 
> most new boats (and some re-cycled) have two installed.
> 
> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the build.  Very nice.
> 
> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on eBay. I believe the factory 
>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they recycle. This might be a better 
>> option as they are more flexible than the aluminum frames.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
>>> 22 Email List
>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>> 
>>> You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>>> it...the deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem.
>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you 
>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything down.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Richard
>>> S/V Waif R22
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add 
>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how 
>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did 
>>>> you need to build up a collar for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the 
>>>> hatch installed at the factory?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> __________________________________________________
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug 23 23:05:02 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:05:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <000501cfbf45$ce36f2f0$6aa4d8d0$@ca>
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Message-ID: <F90707FF-9CB6-4F3B-B2A1-4E260ACABBC9@bellsouth.net>

Graham:  Indeed, enjoying the mountains; but, we're anxious to pop the sails on our "NoKaOi 3!"

Best wishes,  Bob

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:47 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Bob:
> 
> Of course. I will write Stan. I should have thought to do that in the first
> place. Thanks for your help. Enjoy the mountains.
> 
> Graham 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: August-23-14 10:00 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> 
> Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC mountains and
> will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be able to tell you
> the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat back in the
> water.
> 
> Sorry I can not be more helpful.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Bob:
>> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the make and size of the hatches? 
>> Are they metal or plastic? Are they installed directly on your cabin 
>> top or on a built up collar of some sort?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
>> Email List
>> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>> 
>> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the hatch.  GB 
>> installs adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the mast.  I believe 
>> most new boats (and some re-cycled) have two installed.
>> 
>> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the build.  Very nice.
>> 
>> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on eBay. I believe the factory 
>>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they recycle. This might be a better 
>>> option as they are more flexible than the aluminum frames.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you use?
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
>>>> 22 Email List
>>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>>> 
>>>> You need a hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>>>> it...the deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem.
>>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you 
>>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything down.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Richard
>>>> S/V Waif R22
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add 
>>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am wondering how 
>>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able to take the curve or did 
>>>>> you need to build up a collar for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alternatively, Can someone tell me the setup for boats that had the 
>>>>> hatch installed at the factory?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
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>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to
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> 
> __________________________________________________
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> 
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> __________________________________________________


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 24 09:09:49 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:09:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
Message-ID: <ada7e.3e666982.412b3e1d@aol.com>

Bob,
Where in the NC mountains?
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC  mountains 
and will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to tell 
you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat  back in the 
water.

Sorry I can not be more  helpful.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2014, at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List 
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
> 
> Bob:
> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the hatches? 
Are
> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly on your cabin top or 
on a
> built up collar of some  sort?
> Thanks,
> 
> Graham 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22  
Email
> List
> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>  
> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the  hatch.  GB installs
> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new boats
> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
> 
> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the  build.  Very nice.
> 
> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
>  
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>> 
>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on  eBay. I believe the factory 
>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a better 
>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum frames.
>> 
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>  
>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you  use?
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  
>>> 22 Email List
>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18  PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>> 
>>> You need a  hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>>> it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. 
>>>  Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you  
>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything  down.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>>  Richard
>>> S/V Waif R22
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Has  anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add  
>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am  wondering how 
>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able  to take the curve or did 
>>>> you need to build up a collar  for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, Can someone  tell me the setup for boats that had the 
>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>  
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>  http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>  
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list  
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>  __________________________________________________
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>>>  
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>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>>>  
>>>  __________________________________________________
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>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>>  __________________________________________________
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 25 11:29:17 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:29:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <ada7e.3e666982.412b3e1d@aol.com>
References: <ada7e.3e666982.412b3e1d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0FB1FB82-4115-4496-AF26-F5818436EB2A@bellsouth.net>

Linville Land Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few miles from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.   We are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but cool none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity of Florida, not to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our daughter and family were up from Abbeville this past weekend and loved the cool air.  

Cheers, Bob

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> Where in the NC mountains?
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
> 
> Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC  mountains 
> and will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to tell 
> you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat  back in the 
> water.
> 
> Sorry I can not be more  helpful.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2014, at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bob:
>> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the hatches?
> Are
>> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly on your cabin top or
> on a
>> built up collar of some  sort?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Graham 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22  
> Email
>> List
>> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>> 
>> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the  hatch.  GB installs
>> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new boats
>> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
>> 
>> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the  build.  Very nice.
>> 
>> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on  eBay. I believe the factory 
>>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a better 
>>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum frames.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you  use?
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  
>>>> 22 Email List
>>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18  PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>>> 
>>>> You need a  hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>>>> it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem. 
>>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you  
>>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything  down.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Richard
>>>> S/V Waif R22
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Has  anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add  
>>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am  wondering how 
>>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able  to take the curve or did 
>>>>> you need to build up a collar  for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alternatively, Can someone  tell me the setup for boats that had the 
>>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and 
>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list  
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and  
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and  
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and  archives 
>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
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>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
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> go  to
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>> 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 25 14:16:12 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:16:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
Message-ID: <2c7be.342639c7.412cd76c@aol.com>

I know the area well. Traveled up there for years when I was still working. 
 We were in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago and it was cold. Lower 70's 
during  the day and 40's at night. We came home with two head colds.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/25/2014 11:29:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Linville  Land Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few 
miles from  Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.   We are 
 right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but cool  
none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity of Florida,  not to 
mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our daughter and family  were up from 
Abbeville this past weekend and loved the cool air.   

Cheers, Bob

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2014, at  9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List 
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> Where in the NC mountains?
>  
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  writes:
> 
> Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida  heat in the NC  
mountains 
> and will not be back home until  September 15th.  Stan may be  able to 
tell 
> you the size and  maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat  back 
in the 
>  water.
> 
> Sorry I can not be more  helpful.
>  
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On  Aug 23, 2014, at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Bob:
>> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the  make and size  of the hatches?
> Are
>> they metal or plastic? Are they   installed directly on your cabin top or
> on a
>> built up  collar of some  sort?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Graham  
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22  
 
> Email
>> List
>> Sent: August-22-14 6:26  PM
>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>> 
>> Graham:  you  don't say where you intend to place the  hatch.  GB  
installs
>> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the   mast.  I believe most new 
boats
>> (and some re-cycled) have  two  installed.
>> 
>> Our 2010 had two installed as  part of the  build.  Very nice.
>> 
>> Bob on the  "NoKaOi 3"
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>>  
>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>   wrote:
>>> 
>>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found  on  eBay. I believe the factory 
>>> uses a plastic framed  hatch when they  recycle. This might be a better 
>>> option  as they are more flexible  than the aluminum frames.
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On  Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List <  
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you   use?
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>>  
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes   
>>>> 22 Email List
>>>> Sent: August-21-14  9:18  PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List
>>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a  hatch
>>>> 
>>>> You need a  hatch around  18" square. Go ahead and just install 
>>>> it...the  deck  curvature is not significant enough to cause a 
problem. 
>>>>  Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you   
>>>> install the internal trim before screwing  everything  down.
>>>> 
>>>>  Cheers
>>>> Richard
>>>> S/V Waif  R22
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58  PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> Has  anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22?  I would like to add  
>>>>> one to my boat but the  cabin top has a curve and I am  wondering how 
>>>>>  others dealt with that. Was the hatch able  to take the curve or did 
 
>>>>> you need to build up a collar  for  it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alternatively, Can  someone  tell me the setup for boats that had the 
 
>>>>> hatch installed  at the  factory?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Graham
>>>>>  
>>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>>>  To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>  http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>  
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing  list  and 
>>>>> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list  
>>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>>  To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>  http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>  
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and  
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list  
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>>  
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>>  To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>  http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>  
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and  
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list  
>>>>  __________________________________________________
>>>  __________________________________________________
>>> To   subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>>>  http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>  
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and  
archives 
>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list  
>>>  __________________________________________________
>> 
>>  __________________________________________________
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>>  
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> go  to
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>> 
>>  __________________________________________________
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>>  
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> 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Mon Aug 25 14:16:07 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:16:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <0FB1FB82-4115-4496-AF26-F5818436EB2A@bellsouth.net>
References: <ada7e.3e666982.412b3e1d@aol.com>
	<0FB1FB82-4115-4496-AF26-F5818436EB2A@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9YtKYqxfLYLQDQmHTKnHFLtVJQpyzgQoVpVU8J6HLv3EQ@mail.gmail.com>

We were your neighbors this weekend. I had my boat on Lake James.....at the
foot of Linville Gorge. Not too much wind but a great weekend. We made the
State Camp Ground our base and had the boat moored up in about 6" of water
and a few feet from the camp...ideal!

Richard - R22. Waif
On Aug 25, 2014 11:30 AM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Linville Land Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few
> miles from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.   We
> are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but cool
> none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity of Florida, not
> to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our daughter and family were up
> from Abbeville this past weekend and loved the cool air.
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > Where in the NC mountains?
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
> >
> > Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC  mountains
> > and will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to
> tell
> > you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat  back
> in the
> > water.
> >
> > Sorry I can not be more  helpful.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Aug 23, 2014, at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob:
> >> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the hatches?
> > Are
> >> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly on your cabin top or
> > on a
> >> built up collar of some  sort?
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> > Email
> >> List
> >> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>
> >> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the  hatch.  GB
> installs
> >> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new
> boats
> >> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
> >>
> >> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the  build.  Very nice.
> >>
> >> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on  eBay. I believe the factory
> >>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a better
> >>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum frames.
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List <
> >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you  use?
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
> >>>> 22 Email List
> >>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18  PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>>>
> >>>> You need a  hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install
> >>>> it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem.
> >>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you
> >>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything  down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Richard
> >>>> S/V Waif R22
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Has  anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add
> >>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am  wondering how
> >>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able  to take the curve or did
> >>>>> you need to build up a collar  for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alternatively, Can someone  tell me the setup for boats that had the
> >>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Graham
> >>>>>
> >>>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list  and
> >>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 07:08:04 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 07:08:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9YtKYqxfLYLQDQmHTKnHFLtVJQpyzgQoVpVU8J6HLv3EQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ada7e.3e666982.412b3e1d@aol.com>
	<0FB1FB82-4115-4496-AF26-F5818436EB2A@bellsouth.net>
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How can you moor a boat that draws 22" in 6" of water? Last time I tried that I got stuck on the rocks. 

We are having lots of great sailing this. The "2" has been perfect. Solar panel allows me to run the 12 V chiller for hours on consecutive days. It's all good. Hope all are enjoying this season as well. 

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2014, at 2:16 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> We were your neighbors this weekend. I had my boat on Lake James.....at the
> foot of Linville Gorge. Not too much wind but a great weekend. We made the
> State Camp Ground our base and had the boat moored up in about 6" of water
> and a few feet from the camp...ideal!
> 
> Richard - R22. Waif
> On Aug 25, 2014 11:30 AM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> Linville Land Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few
>> miles from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.   We
>> are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but cool
>> none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity of Florida, not
>> to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our daughter and family were up
>> from Abbeville this past weekend and loved the cool air.
>> 
>> Cheers, Bob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob,
>>> Where in the NC mountains?
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>>> 
>>> Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC  mountains
>>> and will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to
>> tell
>>> you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat  back
>> in the
>>> water.
>>> 
>>> Sorry I can not be more  helpful.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2014, at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bob:
>>>> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the hatches?
>>> Are
>>>> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly on your cabin top or
>>> on a
>>>> built up collar of some  sort?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
>>> Email
>>>> List
>>>> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>>> 
>>>> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the  hatch.  GB
>> installs
>>>> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new
>> boats
>>>> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
>>>> 
>>>> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the  build.  Very nice.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on  eBay. I believe the factory
>>>>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a better
>>>>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum frames.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you  use?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
>>>>>> 22 Email List
>>>>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18  PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You need a  hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install
>>>>>> it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem.
>>>>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you
>>>>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything  down.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>> S/V Waif R22
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has  anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add
>>>>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am  wondering how
>>>>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able  to take the curve or did
>>>>>>> you need to build up a collar  for it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alternatively, Can someone  tell me the setup for boats that had the
>>>>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 10:12:38 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cajun Tiller Tamer...Have you seen it?
Message-ID: <1409062358467-48466.post@n5.nabble.com>

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n48466/image257.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n48466/image296.jpg> 

Read about this online... Ultimate in simplicity. Just set it up yesterday
sailing in 8-10 kts, relative flat conditions. It was great. Sailed a few
miles with little to no adjustment needed. You can see this on YouTube, 
just search Cajun tiller tamer. Slide civil back to release, forward to
engage, twist coil to change angle held.
Can't beat the price! Pictures taken while underway in moderate wind.

Chris Greco



-----
Chris Greco
Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 10:20:17 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 07:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cajun Tiller Tamer...Have you seen it?
In-Reply-To: <1409062358467-48466.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1409062358467-48466.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1409062817915-48467.post@n5.nabble.com>

Please correct previous post... "civil" should read "coil".
This also works while under power with outboard. Allows you to hold position
while furling sails, tidying lines etc. very simple and easy to use.

Chris Greco



-----
Chris Greco
Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
--
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 17:52:17 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:52:17 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes
	22
Message-ID: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>

I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.  

I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.

So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?

Thanks for your help

Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 19:15:23 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:15:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
 Rhodes 22
In-Reply-To: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9bQCJG_Sn-TqwAxwxo1PtZVpbTuKGnPQRTcKOqgn1UUbg@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome to the club....you have made the right choice. I do most of my R22
sailing on the lakes of Western NC so I did not need a super powerful
engine. I settled for the Tohatsu 8HP and am very pleased with it. Starts
first pull, not too heavy and pushes the boat at hull-speed. Nothing
special on it, just a long shaft.

Enjoy

Richard R22 Wake
On Aug 26, 2014 5:53 PM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 19:36:07 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
	Rhodes 22
In-Reply-To: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
Message-ID: <1409096167474-48470.post@n5.nabble.com>

I get by with a 6hp, 4 stroke Mercury. I sail a moderately large bay and it
works fine.



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Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 20:55:45 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:55:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
 Rhodes	22
In-Reply-To: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
Message-ID: <60AAE9CC-871E-4E12-AC54-F342C4CF8C44@me.com>

Bob,

Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the archives. Here are my thoughts:

I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20 inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few extra horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with a 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra cost. I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great success. 

Here are a few pics of my setup.

Cheers,
Ted
SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)

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> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.  
> 
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> 
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 21:01:10 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:01:10 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
 Rhodes	22
In-Reply-To: <60AAE9CC-871E-4E12-AC54-F342C4CF8C44@me.com>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>,
	<60AAE9CC-871E-4E12-AC54-F342C4CF8C44@me.com>
Message-ID: <1409101279241.7309@siu.edu>

Thanks Ted. The list stripped out your photos. If you don't mind could you send them directly to me at rweiss at siu.edu 

Thanks.
Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC

________________________________________
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:55 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes        22

Bob,

Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the archives. Here are my thoughts:

I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20 inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few extra horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with a 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra cost. I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great success.

Here are a few pics of my setup.

Cheers,
Ted
SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)

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> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 21:08:31 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:08:31 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
	Rhodes	22
Message-ID: <26244824.166221.1409101711960.JavaMail.nabble@sam.nabble.com>

The list also stripped my email address, so I'll try this private message.
rweiss
at
siu.edu

<quote author='Rhodes 22 mailing list'>
Thanks Ted. The list stripped out your photos. If you don't mind could you
send them directly to me at rweiss at siu.edu 

Thanks.
Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC

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Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:55 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
Rhodes        22

Bob,

Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This
subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the
archives. Here are my thoughts:

I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20
inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few extra
horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine
online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with a
6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite
your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch
seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra cost.
I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may
be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great
success.

Here are a few pics of my setup.

Cheers,
Ted
SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)

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> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat
> Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats,
> is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of
> the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 21:32:53 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:32:53 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
	Rhodes	22
In-Reply-To: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
Message-ID: <1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.? The current version is 

Minn Kota Riptide T/112 
(112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.

peace and quiet

Joe


Joseph A. Doucet 
70 Pumping Station rd 
Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
203-438-4346 
Mobile: 203-512-5629 
jadoucet at snet.net


________________________________
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To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes	22
 

I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.? 

I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.

So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?

Thanks for your help

Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC

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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 22:14:14 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:14:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
 Rhodes	22
In-Reply-To: <1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>
	<1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55B9CC6F-B4AD-4EA0-9139-859DD8C401A0@me.com>

Joe, what's your top speed with this motor?

Cheers,
Ted

> On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.  I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.  The current version is 
> 
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112 
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is  a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.  it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.  Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.  Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.  You can lift it with one hand.  You will need Three 12V batteries.  You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic  LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.  the maintenance cost is also zero.  The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> 
> peace and quiet
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Joseph A. Doucet 
> 70 Pumping Station rd 
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
> 203-438-4346 
> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes    22
> 
> 
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.  
> 
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> 
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 22:18:32 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 02:18:32 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
	my	Rhodes	22
In-Reply-To: <1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>,
	<1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1409105921080.89159@siu.edu>

Interesting suggestion. How long do the batteries last on a charge? 

Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC

________________________________________
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:32 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my       Rhodes  22

Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.  I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.  The current version is

Minn Kota Riptide T/112
(112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
This is  a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.  it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.  Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.  Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.  You can lift it with one hand.  You will need Three 12V batteries.  You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic  LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.  the maintenance cost is also zero.  The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.

peace and quiet

Joe


Joseph A. Doucet
70 Pumping Station rd
Ridgefield, Ct 06877
203-438-4346
Mobile: 203-512-5629
jadoucet at snet.net



From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 23:17:01 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:17:01 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
	Rhodes	22
In-Reply-To: <55B9CC6F-B4AD-4EA0-9139-859DD8C401A0@me.com>
References: <1409089946194.42244@siu.edu>	<1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<55B9CC6F-B4AD-4EA0-9139-859DD8C401A0@me.com>
Message-ID: <1409109421.7756.YahooMailNeo@web181706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

with one person on board,? 5 knots on a fully charged battery.? good for day sails, not for long cruises against a tide.? for that I use the ;loud smelly gasoline monster.

refurbished in 2004 with the usual lazy man's sail plan.

?
Joseph A. Doucet 
70 Pumping Station rd 
Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
203-438-4346 
Mobile: 203-512-5629 
jadoucet at snet.net


________________________________
 From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes	22
 

Joe, what's your top speed with this motor?

Cheers,
Ted

> On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.? The current version is 
> 
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112 
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> 
> peace and quiet
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Joseph A. Doucet 
> 70 Pumping Station rd 
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
> 203-438-4346 
> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes? ? 22
> 
> 
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.? 
> 
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> 
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Tue Aug 26 23:51:00 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:51:00 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard
	for	my	Rhodes	22
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	<1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1409105921080.89159@siu.edu>
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The three 40 amp hr Lipo Batteries store about 1.56 KW-hrs of energy.
the lead acid ones that I previously used were 85 amp -hr marine batteries, so three of them stored about 3 KW-hrs of energy when new.


In typical sailing conditions i run the motor about 5 minutes to get off the dock, into the wind,&? unfurl the sails. Then another 5 minutes at the end of the sail to furl the sails and dock the boat.? I may also occasionally run the motor if the wind dies or if I need to go directly into the wind.? Neither set of batteries have ever run out of power in 10 years of sailing with them.? Oh, some times if the wind is light I'll run the electric at low speed for several hours, it helps the Rhodes to tack with the heavy 175 genoa.

The motor will push the boat to about? 5 knots with one person on board. 


power use depends on how may people are in the boat and how fast you wish to drive it.? The Minnkota motor that I mentioned uses an electronic controller to minimize energy use when traveling at less than full speed. there is also a German motor that is even more efficient & more expensive. you can see the spects on it here: http://www.torqeedo.com/us/

?
i have used it in both salt water and lake environments.? If I want to take a muilti day? cruise off the coast I use my gasoline motor because it has a much longer range & I might need to run it all day for several days on two 5 gal tanks. the nice feature of the Rhodes is that it is easy to trailer so that you can explore all sorts of? interesting places.

I that you enjoy it.
\
Cheers

Joe



Joseph A. Doucet 
70 Pumping Station rd 
Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
203-438-4346 
Mobile: 203-512-5629 
jadoucet at snet.net


________________________________
 From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for	my	Rhodes	22
 

Interesting suggestion. How long do the batteries last on a charge? 

Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC

________________________________________

From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:32 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my? ? ?  Rhodes? 22

Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.? The current version is

Minn Kota Riptide T/112
(112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.

peace and quiet

Joe


Joseph A. Doucet
70 Pumping Station rd
Ridgefield, Ct 06877
203-438-4346
Mobile: 203-512-5629
jadoucet at snet.net


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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 27 12:25:28 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:25:28 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3542, Issue 1
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Bob, enjoy your new boat!  We have a Honda 8 and have had many problems with it, we don't recommend it them.

Julia and Jay
Orcas Island, Wa

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>    Rhodes    22
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> Message-ID: <1409089946194.42244 at siu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.  
> 
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> 
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:15:23 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my Rhodes 22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>    <CALbDJ9bQCJG_Sn-TqwAxwxo1PtZVpbTuKGnPQRTcKOqgn1UUbg at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Welcome to the club....you have made the right choice. I do most of my R22
> sailing on the lakes of Western NC so I did not need a super powerful
> engine. I settled for the Tohatsu 8HP and am very pleased with it. Starts
> first pull, not too heavy and pushes the boat at hull-speed. Nothing
> special on it, just a long shaft.
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> Richard R22 Wake
> On Aug 26, 2014 5:53 PM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
>> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
>> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
>> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
>> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
>> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
>> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>> 
>> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
>> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
>> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
>> Stan says I also need:
>> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
>> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
>> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>> 
>> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
>> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert L Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my    Rhodes 22
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <1409096167474-48470.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I get by with a 6hp, 4 stroke Mercury. I sail a moderately large bay and it
> works fine.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Chris Greco
> Long Island, NY
> Great South Bay
> 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
> --
> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Help-needed-with-choosing-an-outboard-for-my-Rhodes-22-tp48468p48470.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:55:45 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <60AAE9CC-871E-4E12-AC54-F342C4CF8C44 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the archives. Here are my thoughts:
> 
> I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20 inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few extra horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with a 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra cost. I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great success. 
> 
> Here are a few pics of my setup.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
> Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)
> 
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>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.  
>> 
>> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
>> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
>> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
>> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>> 
>> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
>> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert L Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:01:10 +0000
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1409101279241.7309 at siu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Thanks Ted. The list stripped out your photos. If you don't mind could you send them directly to me at rweiss at siu.edu 
> 
> Thanks.
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:55 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes        22
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the archives. Here are my thoughts:
> 
> I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20 inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few extra horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with a 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra cost. I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great success.
> 
> Here are a few pics of my setup.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
> Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)
> 
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>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>> 
>> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
>> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
>> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
>> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>> 
>> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
>> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert L Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:08:31 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my    Rhodes    22
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:
>    <26244824.166221.1409101711960.JavaMail.nabble at sam.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> The list also stripped my email address, so I'll try this private message.
> rweiss
> at
> siu.edu
> 
> <quote author='Rhodes 22 mailing list'>
> Thanks Ted. The list stripped out your photos. If you don't mind could you
> send them directly to me at rweiss at siu.edu 
> 
> Thanks.
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:55 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes        22
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This
> subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the
> archives. Here are my thoughts:
> 
> I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20
> inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few extra
> horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine
> online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with a
> 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite
> your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch
> seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra cost.
> I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may
> be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great
> success.
> 
> Here are a few pics of my setup.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
> Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)
> 
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> 
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
>> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat
>> Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats,
>> is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of
>> the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
>> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
>> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>> 
>> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
>> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
>> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
>> Stan says I also need:
>> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
>> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
>> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>> 
>> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
>> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert L Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> 
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> </quote>
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:32:53 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my    Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo at web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.? The current version is 
> 
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112 
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> 
> peace and quiet
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Joseph A. Doucet 
> 70 Pumping Station rd 
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
> 203-438-4346 
> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes    22
> 
> 
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.? 
> 
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> 
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:14:14 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <55B9CC6F-B4AD-4EA0-9139-859DD8C401A0 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Joe, what's your top speed with this motor?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.  I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.  The current version is 
>> 
>> Minn Kota Riptide T/112 
>> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
>> This is  a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.  it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.  Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.  Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.  You can lift it with one hand.  You will need Three 12V batteries.  You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic  LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.  the maintenance cost is also zero.  The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
>> 
>> peace and quiet
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> Joseph A. Doucet 
>> 70 Pumping Station rd 
>> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
>> 203-438-4346 
>> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
>> jadoucet at snet.net
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes    22
>> 
>> 
>> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.  
>> 
>> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
>> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
>> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
>> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>> 
>> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
>> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert L Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 02:18:32 +0000
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my    Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1409105921080.89159 at siu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Interesting suggestion. How long do the batteries last on a charge? 
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:32 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my       Rhodes  22
> 
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.  I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.  The current version is
> 
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is  a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.  it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.  Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.  Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.  You can lift it with one hand.  You will need Three 12V batteries.  You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic  LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.  the maintenance cost is also zero.  The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> 
> peace and quiet
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:17:01 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>    my    Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <1409109421.7756.YahooMailNeo at web181706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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> 
> with one person on board,? 5 knots on a fully charged battery.? good for day sails, not for long cruises against a tide.? for that I use the ;loud smelly gasoline monster.
> 
> refurbished in 2004 with the usual lazy man's sail plan.
> 
> ?
> Joseph A. Doucet 
> 70 Pumping Station rd 
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
> 203-438-4346 
> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes    22
> 
> 
> Joe, what's your top speed with this motor?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.? The current version is 
>> 
>> Minn Kota Riptide T/112 
>> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
>> This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
>> 
>> peace and quiet
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> Joseph A. Doucet 
>> 70 Pumping Station rd 
>> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
>> 203-438-4346 
>> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
>> jadoucet at snet.net
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my Rhodes? ? 22
>> 
>> 
>> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.? 
>> 
>> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient. Stan says I also need:
>> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
>> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
>> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>> 
>> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements? 
>> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert L Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:51:00 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard    for
>    my    Rhodes    22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> The three 40 amp hr Lipo Batteries store about 1.56 KW-hrs of energy.
> the lead acid ones that I previously used were 85 amp -hr marine batteries, so three of them stored about 3 KW-hrs of energy when new.
> 
> 
> In typical sailing conditions i run the motor about 5 minutes to get off the dock, into the wind,&? unfurl the sails. Then another 5 minutes at the end of the sail to furl the sails and dock the boat.? I may also occasionally run the motor if the wind dies or if I need to go directly into the wind.? Neither set of batteries have ever run out of power in 10 years of sailing with them.? Oh, some times if the wind is light I'll run the electric at low speed for several hours, it helps the Rhodes to tack with the heavy 175 genoa.
> 
> The motor will push the boat to about? 5 knots with one person on board. 
> 
> 
> power use depends on how may people are in the boat and how fast you wish to drive it.? The Minnkota motor that I mentioned uses an electronic controller to minimize energy use when traveling at less than full speed. there is also a German motor that is even more efficient & more expensive. you can see the spects on it here: http://www.torqeedo.com/us/
> 
> ?
> i have used it in both salt water and lake environments.? If I want to take a muilti day? cruise off the coast I use my gasoline motor because it has a much longer range & I might need to run it all day for several days on two 5 gal tanks. the nice feature of the Rhodes is that it is easy to trailer so that you can explore all sorts of? interesting places.
> 
> I that you enjoy it.
> \
> Cheers
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph A. Doucet 
> 70 Pumping Station rd 
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877 
> 203-438-4346 
> Mobile: 203-512-5629 
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for    my    Rhodes    22
> 
> 
> Interesting suggestion. How long do the batteries last on a charge? 
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:32 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my? ? ?  Rhodes? 22
> 
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust Minkota.? The current version is
> 
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also, it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40 AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> 
> peace and quiet
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
> 
> 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 27 14:52:13 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:52:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
	Rhodes 22
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Thanks to all for the recommendations. I also went back and did a better job
of searching the archives and with the historic and recent combined wisdom
have decided to get a Mercury 8hp OB. I was very tempted by Joe's electric
OB suggestion, but have decided that with this new boat I may want to wander
farther from my home marina than I have in the past and will feel more
comfortable with the gas engine. As I mentioned in my original post, Stan
had suggested getting something with High Thrust and a long tiller handle
that has the throttle and gear shift on the handle. Stan emphasized this
second requirement as being most important. I would have liked to get a
Tohatsu because of their affordability, but they don't have any with the
gear shift on the handle. The Mercury line starts putting the gear shift on
the handle at their 8 hp model. In order to get a High Thrust feature on the
Mercury, you have to go to their 9.9 Big Foot model, and I didn't want to
have the added weight that came with that model. 8 hp seems like it will be
sufficient for my KY Lake sailing. So, the Mercury motor is ordered and
being shipped to GB for Stan to install with the tiller connection. By later
this Fall I hope to have photos of this "new" 1998 beauty to post.  Bob



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 27 20:54:12 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
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Richard: ?We will have to visit Lake James and assess the option of bringing our R22 up for the summer. Thanks for the information on the Lake and the State Park. ?And was that six "feet" of water? ?

Rummy: ?We'll get by one of these days!!!

Cheers, ?Bob


On Monday, August 25, 2014 2:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
 


We were your neighbors this weekend. I had my boat on Lake James.....at the
foot of Linville Gorge. Not too much wind but a great weekend. We made the
State Camp Ground our base and had the boat moored up in about 6" of water
and a few feet from the camp...ideal!

Richard - R22. Waif
On Aug 25, 2014 11:30 AM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Linville Land Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.? Just a few
> miles from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.?  We
> are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but cool
> none-the-less.? Great place to avoid the heat and humidity of Florida, not
> to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.? Our daughter and family were up
> from Abbeville this past weekend and loved the cool air.
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > Where in the NC mountains?
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
> >
> > Graham:? I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC? mountains
> > and will not be back home until September 15th.? Stan may be? able to
> tell
> > you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat? back
> in the
> > water.
> >
> > Sorry I can not be more? helpful.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Aug 23, 2014, at? 5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>? wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob:
> >> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the? make and size of the hatches?
> > Are
> >> they metal or plastic? Are they? installed directly on your cabin top or
> > on a
> >> built up collar of some? sort?
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:? rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> > Email
> >> List
> >> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes? 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>
> >> Graham:? you don't say where you intend to place the? hatch.? GB
> installs
> >> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the? mast.? I believe most new
> boats
> >> (and some re-cycled) have two? installed.
> >>
> >> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the? build.? Very nice.
> >>
> >> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07? AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>? wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on? eBay. I believe the factory
> >>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they? recycle. This might be a better
> >>> option as they are more flexible? than the aluminum frames.
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22? Email List <
> >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you? use?
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From:? rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
> >>>> 22 Email List
> >>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18? PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>> Subject: Re:? [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>>>
> >>>> You need a? hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install
> >>>> it...the? deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem.
> >>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you
> >>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything? down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Richard
> >>>> S/V Waif R22
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at? 8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Has? anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add
> >>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am? wondering how
> >>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able? to take the curve or did
> >>>>> you need to build up a collar? for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alternatively, Can someone? tell me the setup for boats that had the
> >>>>> hatch installed? at the factory?
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Graham
> >>>>>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Wed Aug 27 21:44:08 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:44:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
Message-ID: <000f4242.2a614ed105f1b470@gmail.com>

Bob....It is my intention to visit several lakes here before the summer is out. Next weekend we're off to Lake Keowee. I believe you can moor up next to a waterfall. I'll keep you posted.

My definition of mooring in 6" of water is where there is a beach with a drop-off so you put a stern anchor out, put your nose on the beach,  take a line ashore and step off your boat in 6" of water...ala Caribbean style

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Tablet


------ Original message------
From: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 8:54 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List;
Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch

Richard:  We will have to visit Lake James and assess the option of bringing our R22 up for the summer. Thanks for the information on the Lake and the State Park.  And was that six "feet" of water?  

Rummy:  We'll get by one of these days!!!

Cheers,  Bob


On Monday, August 25, 2014 2:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List  wrote:
 


We were your neighbors this weekend. I had my boat on Lake James.....at the
foot of Linville Gorge. Not too much wind but a great weekend. We made the
State Camp Ground our base and had the boat moored up in about 6" of water
and a few feet from the camp...ideal!

Richard - R22. Waif
On Aug 25, 2014 11:30 AM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Linville Land Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few
> miles from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.   We
> are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but cool
> none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity of Florida, not
> to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our daughter and family were up
> from Abbeville this past weekend and loved the cool air.
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > Where in the NC mountains?
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/23/2014 10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
> >
> > Graham:  I am currently hiding from the Florida heat in the NC  mountains
> > and will not be back home until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to
> tell
> > you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat  back
> in the
> > water.
> >
> > Sorry I can not be more  helpful.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Aug 23, 2014, at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>   wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob:
> >> Thanks for the info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the hatches?
> > Are
> >> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly on your cabin top or
> > on a
> >> built up collar of some  sort?
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> > Email
> >> List
> >> Sent: August-22-14 6:26 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>
> >> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the  hatch.  GB
> installs
> >> adjacent the pop-top and parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new
> boats
> >> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
> >>
> >> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the  build.  Very nice.
> >>
> >> Bob on the "NoKaOi 3"
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>   wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found on  eBay. I believe the factory
> >>> uses a plastic framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a better
> >>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum frames.
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List <
> >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you  use?
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
> >>>> 22 Email List
> >>>> Sent: August-21-14 9:18  PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>>>
> >>>> You need a  hatch around 18" square. Go ahead and just install
> >>>> it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a problem.
> >>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the leading edge. Make sure you
> >>>> install the internal trim before screwing everything  down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Richard
> >>>> S/V Waif R22
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Has  anyone installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add
> >>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I am  wondering how
> >>>>> others dealt with that. Was the hatch able  to take the curve or did
> >>>>> you need to build up a collar  for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alternatively, Can someone  tell me the setup for boats that had the
> >>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Graham
> >>>>>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Thu Aug 28 06:13:25 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:13:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
Message-ID: <70d00.45b5b134.41305ac5@aol.com>

Next time try putting the main anchor out and then back into the beach. I  
usually raise the rudder and centerboard and use the motor to back in and 
then  throw the stern anchor on shore. You can step off into about a foot of 
water (or  less).
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/27/2014 9:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Bob....It is my intention to visit several lakes here before the  summer is 
out. Next weekend we're off to Lake Keowee. I believe you can moor  up next 
to a waterfall. I'll keep you posted.

My definition of mooring  in 6" of water is where there is a beach with a 
drop-off so you put a stern  anchor out, put your nose on the beach,  take a 
line ashore and step off  your boat in 6" of water...ala Caribbean style

Sent from my Verizon 4G  LTE Tablet


------ Original message------
From: The Rhodes 22  Email List
Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 8:54 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List;
Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch

Richard:   We will have to visit Lake James and assess the option of 
bringing our R22 up  for the summer. Thanks for the information on the Lake and 
the State  Park.  And was that six "feet" of water?  

Rummy:  We'll  get by one of these days!!!

Cheers,  Bob


On Monday,  August 25, 2014 2:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List   wrote:



We were your neighbors this weekend. I had my boat on  Lake James.....at the
foot of Linville Gorge. Not too much wind but a great  weekend. We made the
State Camp Ground our base and had the boat moored up  in about 6" of water
and a few feet from the camp...ideal!

Richard -  R22. Waif
On Aug 25, 2014 11:30 AM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List"  <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Linville Land  Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few
> miles  from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.    
We
> are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but  cool
> none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity  of Florida, 
not
> to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our  daughter and family were up
> from Abbeville this past weekend and loved  the cool air.
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> Sent from my  iPad
>
> > On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
>  > Bob,
> > Where in the NC mountains?
> >
> >  Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/23/2014  10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  writes:
> >
> > Graham:  I am currently hiding from the  Florida heat in the NC  
mountains
> > and will not be back home  until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to
> tell
>  > you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat   
back
> in the
> > water.
> >
> > Sorry I can  not be more  helpful.
> >
> > Bob
> >
>  > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Aug 23, 2014,  at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>    wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob:
> >> Thanks for the  info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the 
hatches?
> >  Are
> >> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly  on your cabin top 
or
> > on a
> >> built up collar of  some  sort?
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>  Graham
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original  Message-----
> >> From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
>  > Email
> >> List
> >> Sent: August-22-14 6:26  PM
> >> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
> >>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> >>
>  >> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the   hatch.  GB
> installs
> >> adjacent the pop-top and  parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new
> boats
>  >> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
>  >>
> >> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the   build.  Very nice.
> >>
> >> Bob on the "NoKaOi  3"
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
>  >>
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>   wrote:
>  >>>
> >>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found  on  eBay. I believe the 
factory
> >>> uses a plastic  framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a 
better
>  >>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum  frames.
> >>>
> >>> Richard
>  >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at  12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List <
> >>>  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>
>  >>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you   use?
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham
>  >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>  >>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>  >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The  Rhodes
> >>>> 22 Email List
> >>>> Sent:  August-21-14 9:18  PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List
> >>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a  hatch
> >>>>
> >>>> You need a  hatch  around 18" square. Go ahead and just install
> >>>>  it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a  
problem.
> >>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the  leading edge. Make sure you
> >>>> install the internal trim  before screwing everything  down.
> >>>>
>  >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Richard
>  >>>> S/V Waif R22
> >>>>
>  >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>  >>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List <
> >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Has  anyone  installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to add
>  >>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I  am  wondering 
how
> >>>>> others dealt with that.  Was the hatch able  to take the curve or 
did
> >>>>>  you need to build up a collar  for it.
>  >>>>>
> >>>>> Alternatively, Can  someone  tell me the setup for boats that had 
the
>  >>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
>  >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
>  >>>>> Graham
> >>>>>
>  >>>>>  __________________________________________________
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Thu Aug 28 09:15:28 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3542, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1409155227.71409.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.1.1409155227.71409.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CA+XkGs77P4ZvvdNYbGvWM+bApL4F4JDfEcG6bjzCt5=RuoWvGg@mail.gmail.com>

re: selecting the outboard for a R22

I recommend the Tohatsu 6hp long shaft with the SAIL PRO prop.  I made the
mistake of buying the  standard prop and just changed to the Sail Pro model
this year and it really makes a difference in docking control.  I don't
have the linkage for the motor and tiller but its useful if you have a very
tight docking space.

just my 2 cents.

THe only downside of the Tohatsu in the NYC Metro area is the paucity of
mechanics who will work on this engine.

Sail Safe!
good luck with your new boat

Lou R
s/v Miracles
Mill Basin Brooklyn


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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:52:17 +0000
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
>         Rhodes  22
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1409089946194.42244 at siu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
>
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:15:23 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my Rhodes 22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CALbDJ9bQCJG_Sn-TqwAxwxo1PtZVpbTuKGnPQRTcKOqgn1UUbg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Welcome to the club....you have made the right choice. I do most of my R22
> sailing on the lakes of Western NC so I did not need a super powerful
> engine. I settled for the Tohatsu 8HP and am very pleased with it. Starts
> first pull, not too heavy and pushes the boat at hull-speed. Nothing
> special on it, just a long shaft.
>
> Enjoy
>
> Richard R22 Wake
> On Aug 26, 2014 5:53 PM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> > finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat
> Show
> > in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is
> in
> > the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> > necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> > installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> > appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
> >
> > I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> > done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> > motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> > Stan says I also need:
> > If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> > Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> > Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> >
> > So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these
> requirements?
> > Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert L Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my      Rhodes 22
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <1409096167474-48470.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I get by with a 6hp, 4 stroke Mercury. I sail a moderately large bay and it
> works fine.
>
>
>
> -----
> Chris Greco
> Long Island, NY
> Great South Bay
> 1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:55:45 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my Rhodes       22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <60AAE9CC-871E-4E12-AC54-F342C4CF8C44 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bob,
>
> Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This
> subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the
> archives. Here are my thoughts:
>
> I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20
> inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few
> extra horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I
> bought mine online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right
> track with a 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version
> that might suite your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft
> but my 20 inch seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify
> the extra cost. I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the
> handle, but I may be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/
> throttle with great success.
>
> Here are a few pics of my setup.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
> SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
> Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)
>
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>
> > On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
> >
> > I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> > If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> > Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> > Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> >
> > So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these
> requirements?
> > Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert L Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:01:10 +0000
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my Rhodes       22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1409101279241.7309 at siu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Thanks Ted. The list stripped out your photos. If you don't mind could you
> send them directly to me at rweiss at siu.edu
>
> Thanks.
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> ________________________________________
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:55 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes        22
>
> Bob,
>
> Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This
> subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the
> archives. Here are my thoughts:
>
> I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20
> inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few
> extra horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I
> bought mine online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right
> track with a 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version
> that might suite your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft
> but my 20 inch seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify
> the extra cost. I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the
> handle, but I may be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/
> throttle with great success.
>
> Here are a few pics of my setup.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
> SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
> Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)
>
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>
> > On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
> >
> > I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> > If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> > Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> > Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> >
> > So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these
> requirements?
> > Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert L Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:08:31 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my      Rhodes  22
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:
>         <26244824.166221.1409101711960.JavaMail.nabble at sam.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The list also stripped my email address, so I'll try this private message.
> rweiss
> at
> siu.edu
>
> <quote author='Rhodes 22 mailing list'>
> Thanks Ted. The list stripped out your photos. If you don't mind could you
> send them directly to me at rweiss at siu.edu
>
> Thanks.
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> ________________________________________
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:55 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes        22
>
> Bob,
>
> Congrats! You're going to love your Rhodes.  Stan is good people. This
> subjects comes up a lot with new owners so you might want to search the
> archives. Here are my thoughts:
>
> I bought my boat last spring and I love it. I went with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 20
> inch shaft with electric start. 9.8 is a little overkill but hey a few
> extra
> horses never hurt anyone. It sips gas and starts on one pull. I bought mine
> online and had it shipped to Stan.  I think you're on the right track with
> a
> 6 or 8 hp.  I think Tohatsu makes a 6hp "sail pro" version that might suite
> your needs.  Some guys like to go with the 25 inch shaft but my 20 inch
> seems adequate.  The Hondas are sweet but I couldn't justify the extra
> cost.
> I don't think any of the new engines have shifters on the handle, but I may
> be wrong. A few folks have mounted remote shifter/ throttle with great
> success.
>
> Here are a few pics of my setup.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
> SV AIRPOWER 1991/2013
> Boston, MA (soon to be Jacksonville, FL)
>
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>
> > On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:52 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> > finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat
> > Show in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General
> Boats,
> > is in the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of
> > the necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> > installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> > appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
> >
> > I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> > done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> > motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> > Stan says I also need:
> > If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> > Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> > Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> >
> > So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these
> requirements?
> > Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert L Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> </quote>
> Quoted from:
>
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Help-needed-with-choosing-an-outboard-for-my-Rhodes-22-tp48468p48472.html
>
>
> _____________________________________
> Sent from http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:32:53 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my      Rhodes  22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>         <1409103173.48051.YahooMailNeo at web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit
> me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust
> Minkota.? The current version is
>
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to
> a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird
> songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also,
> it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has
> high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is
> about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V
> batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger
> from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40
> AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is
> zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more
> expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs
> each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
>
> peace and quiet
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes    22
>
>
> I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.?
>
> I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
>
> So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these requirements?
> Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:14:14 -0400
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my Rhodes       22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <55B9CC6F-B4AD-4EA0-9139-859DD8C401A0 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Joe, what's your top speed with this motor?
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> > On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit
> me to suggest an electric outboard.  I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust
> Minkota.  The current version is
> >
> > Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> > (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> > This is  a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat
> to a more interesting location.  it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird
> songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.  Also,
> it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.  Also, it has
> high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is
> about $840.  You can lift it with one hand.  You will need Three 12V
> batteries.  You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger
> from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40
> AMP-hr prismatic  LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is
> zero.  the maintenance cost is also zero.  The Lipo batteries although more
> expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs
> each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> >
> > peace and quiet
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > Joseph A. Doucet
> > 70 Pumping Station rd
> > Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> > 203-438-4346
> > Mobile: 203-512-5629
> > jadoucet at snet.net
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes    22
> >
> >
> > I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.
> >
> > I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> > If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> > Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> > Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> >
> > So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these
> requirements?
> > Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert L Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 02:18:32 +0000
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my      Rhodes  22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1409105921080.89159 at siu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Interesting suggestion. How long do the batteries last on a charge?
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> ________________________________________
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:32 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
>      Rhodes  22
>
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit
> me to suggest an electric outboard.  I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust
> Minkota.  The current version is
>
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is  a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to
> a more interesting location.  it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird
> songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.  Also,
> it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.  Also, it has
> high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is
> about $840.  You can lift it with one hand.  You will need Three 12V
> batteries.  You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger
> from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40
> AMP-hr prismatic  LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is
> zero.  the maintenance cost is also zero.  The Lipo batteries although more
> expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs
> each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
>
> peace and quiet
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:17:01 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
>         my      Rhodes  22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>         <1409109421.7756.YahooMailNeo at web181706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> with one person on board,? 5 knots on a fully charged battery.? good for
> day sails, not for long cruises against a tide.? for that I use the ;loud
> smelly gasoline monster.
>
> refurbished in 2004 with the usual lazy man's sail plan.
>
> ?
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes        22
>
>
> Joe, what's your top speed with this motor?
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> > On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit
> me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust
> Minkota.? The current version is
> >
> > Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> > (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> > This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat
> to a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird
> songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also,
> it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has
> high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is
> about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V
> batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger
> from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40
> AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is
> zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more
> expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs
> each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
> >
> > peace and quiet
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > Joseph A. Doucet
> > 70 Pumping Station rd
> > Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> > 203-438-4346
> > Mobile: 203-512-5629
> > jadoucet at snet.net
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:52 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my
> Rhodes? ? 22
> >
> >
> > I'm in the process of joining you Rhodes owners after waiting 4 years to
> finally make an order. I first saw the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis Boat Show
> in 2010 and have been wanting one ever since. Stan, at General Boats, is in
> the process of recycling a 1998 boat for me and I have made most of the
> necessary decisions. The one remaining issue is what motor to have
> installed. I'm not very knowledgeable about outboards, so I would
> appreciate any specific recommendations you might have.?
> >
> > I'm going to order a motor and have it shipped to GB. My sailing will be
> done on Kentucky Lake, not the ocean, so I don't think I need the biggest
> motor possible. I'm thinking either a 6 hp or 8 hp would be sufficient.
> Stan says I also need:
> > If possible -- High Thrust sailboat outboard
> > Whether high thrust or not, I should get a Sailboat pitched propeller
> > Long tiller handle with throttle and gear shift on the handle.
> >
> > So, do any of you have a recent OB purchase that meets these
> requirements?
> > Has anyone recently had an OB installed by GB?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert L Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:51:00 -0700
> From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard      for
>         my      Rhodes  22
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>         <1409111460.72190.YahooMailNeo at web181705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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>
> The three 40 amp hr Lipo Batteries store about 1.56 KW-hrs of energy.
> the lead acid ones that I previously used were 85 amp -hr marine
> batteries, so three of them stored about 3 KW-hrs of energy when new.
>
>
> In typical sailing conditions i run the motor about 5 minutes to get off
> the dock, into the wind,&? unfurl the sails. Then another 5 minutes at the
> end of the sail to furl the sails and dock the boat.? I may also
> occasionally run the motor if the wind dies or if I need to go directly
> into the wind.? Neither set of batteries have ever run out of power in 10
> years of sailing with them.? Oh, some times if the wind is light I'll run
> the electric at low speed for several hours, it helps the Rhodes to tack
> with the heavy 175 genoa.
>
> The motor will push the boat to about? 5 knots with one person on board.
>
>
> power use depends on how may people are in the boat and how fast you wish
> to drive it.? The Minnkota motor that I mentioned uses an electronic
> controller to minimize energy use when traveling at less than full speed.
> there is also a German motor that is even more efficient & more expensive.
> you can see the spects on it here: http://www.torqeedo.com/us/
>
> ?
> i have used it in both salt water and lake environments.? If I want to
> take a muilti day? cruise off the coast I use my gasoline motor because it
> has a much longer range & I might need to run it all day for several days
> on two 5 gal tanks. the nice feature of the Rhodes is that it is easy to
> trailer so that you can explore all sorts of? interesting places.
>
> I that you enjoy it.
> \
> Cheers
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for
> my      Rhodes  22
>
>
> Interesting suggestion. How long do the batteries last on a charge?
>
> Bob
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>
> ________________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:32 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help needed with choosing an outboard for my?
> ? ?  Rhodes? 22
>
> Since you are a director of music, and you sail on a lake, please permit
> me to suggest an electric outboard.? I use a long shaft 101 lb thrust
> Minkota.? The current version is
>
> Minn Kota Riptide T/112
> (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft)
> This is? a salt water rated motor in case you want to trailer your boat to
> a more interesting location.? it is quiet in case you enjoy music, bird
> songs or just the lapping of waves or the tingling of your rigging.? Also,
> it starts every time with no need to pull a started cord.? Also, it has
> high torque a low speed: Very useful in maneuvering around docks. Cost is
> about $840.? You can lift it with one hand.? You will need Three 12V
> batteries.? You could buy these at Costco along with a three bank charger
> from Minkota, or if the concept of light weight appeals, buy three 12V, 40
> AMP-hr prismatic? LIPO batteries on the internet. the cost of gasoline is
> zero.? the maintenance cost is also zero.? The Lipo batteries although more
> expensive than lead acid last 4 times longer. my batteries are ~ 13 lbs
> each as opposed to 35 lbs for lead acid.
>
> peace and quiet
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joseph A. Doucet
> 70 Pumping Station rd
> Ridgefield, Ct 06877
> 203-438-4346
> Mobile: 203-512-5629
> jadoucet at snet.net
>
>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Thu Aug 28 09:41:24 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:41:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
In-Reply-To: <70d00.45b5b134.41305ac5@aol.com>
References: <70d00.45b5b134.41305ac5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9bYX4FyskjTko+2KqWF1+PdqSsG+P9UEia8ZmdNB1_92g@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea....it is a bit of a mission to get onto the boat without the help
of the stern ladder

Richard


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:13 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Next time try putting the main anchor out and then back into the beach. I
> usually raise the rudder and centerboard and use the motor to back in and
> then  throw the stern anchor on shore. You can step off into about a foot
> of
> water (or  less).
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 8/27/2014 9:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>
> Bob....It is my intention to visit several lakes here before the  summer is
> out. Next weekend we're off to Lake Keowee. I believe you can moor  up next
> to a waterfall. I'll keep you posted.
>
> My definition of mooring  in 6" of water is where there is a beach with a
> drop-off so you put a stern  anchor out, put your nose on the beach,  take
> a
> line ashore and step off  your boat in 6" of water...ala Caribbean style
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G  LTE Tablet
>
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: The Rhodes 22  Email List
> Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 8:54 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List;
> Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
>
> Richard:   We will have to visit Lake James and assess the option of
> bringing our R22 up  for the summer. Thanks for the information on the
> Lake and
> the State  Park.  And was that six "feet" of water?
>
> Rummy:  We'll  get by one of these days!!!
>
> Cheers,  Bob
>
>
> On Monday,  August 25, 2014 2:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List   wrote:
>
>
>
> We were your neighbors this weekend. I had my boat on  Lake James.....at
> the
> foot of Linville Gorge. Not too much wind but a great  weekend. We made the
> State Camp Ground our base and had the boat moored up  in about 6" of water
> and a few feet from the camp...ideal!
>
> Richard -  R22. Waif
> On Aug 25, 2014 11:30 AM, "The Rhodes 22 Email List"  <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Linville Land  Harbor, just outside of Linville and Newland.  Just a few
> > miles  from Grandfather Mountain and just off the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> We
> > are right at 4 thousand feet, no comparison to the Rockies, but  cool
> > none-the-less.  Great place to avoid the heat and humidity  of Florida,
> not
> > to mention hurricanes or the heat of SC.  Our  daughter and family were
> up
> > from Abbeville this past weekend and loved  the cool air.
> >
> > Cheers, Bob
> >
> > Sent from my  iPad
> >
> > > On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:09 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> >  > Bob,
> > > Where in the NC mountains?
> > >
> > >  Rummy
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 8/23/2014  10:00:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  writes:
> > >
> > > Graham:  I am currently hiding from the  Florida heat in the NC
> mountains
> > > and will not be back home  until September 15th.  Stan may be  able to
> > tell
> >  > you the size and maker as I know you are anxious to get your boat
> back
> > in the
> > > water.
> > >
> > > Sorry I can  not be more  helpful.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> >  > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >>> On Aug 23, 2014,  at  5:32 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > >>    wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Bob:
> > >> Thanks for the  info. Can you tell me the  make and size of the
> hatches?
> > >  Are
> > >> they metal or plastic? Are they  installed directly  on your cabin top
> or
> > > on a
> > >> built up collar of  some  sort?
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>  Graham
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original  Message-----
> > >> From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
> 22
> >  > Email
> > >> List
> > >> Sent: August-22-14 6:26  PM
> > >> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
> > >>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installing a hatch
> > >>
> >  >> Graham:  you don't say where you intend to place the   hatch.  GB
> > installs
> > >> adjacent the pop-top and  parallel to the  mast.  I believe most new
> > boats
> >  >> (and some re-cycled) have two  installed.
> >  >>
> > >> Our 2010 had two installed as part of the   build.  Very nice.
> > >>
> > >> Bob on the "NoKaOi  3"
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> >  >>
> > >>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:07  AM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List
> > >>>   wrote:
> >  >>>
> > >>> I used a couple of Bomars that I found  on  eBay. I believe the
> factory
> > >>> uses a plastic  framed hatch when they  recycle. This might be a
> better
> >  >>> option as they are more flexible  than the aluminum  frames.
> > >>>
> > >>> Richard
> >  >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at  12:27 AM, The Rhodes 22  Email List <
> > >>>  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  >>>> Thanks Richard. What make and model did you   use?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Graham
> >  >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >  >>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >  >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The
> Rhodes
> > >>>> 22 Email List
> > >>>> Sent:  August-21-14 9:18  PM
> > >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List
> > >>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Installing a  hatch
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You need a  hatch  around 18" square. Go ahead and just install
> > >>>>  it...the  deck curvature is not significant enough to cause a
> problem.
> > >>>> Be fairly generous with the 5200 on the  leading edge. Make sure you
> > >>>> install the internal trim  before screwing everything  down.
> > >>>>
> >  >>>> Cheers
> > >>>> Richard
> >  >>>> S/V Waif R22
> > >>>>
> >  >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> >  >>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at  8:58 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List <
> > >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Has  anyone  installed a hatch on the Rhodes 22? I would like to
> add
> >  >>>>> one to my boat but the cabin top has a curve and I  am  wondering
> how
> > >>>>> others dealt with that.  Was the hatch able  to take the curve or
> did
> > >>>>>  you need to build up a collar  for it.
> >  >>>>>
> > >>>>> Alternatively, Can  someone  tell me the setup for boats that had
> the
> >  >>>>> hatch installed  at the factory?
> >  >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> >  >>>>> Graham
> > >>>>>
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Thu Aug 28 22:02:43 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
Message-ID: <1409277763410-48486.post@n5.nabble.com>

Was just reading about propeller selection and the advantages of using a high
thrust prop. Said  low pitch, and larger blade provided more thrust at slow
and high speed, less prop walk due to lower pitch, and better reverse
handling. Anyone with experience with this issue? I currently am using a 6
hp, 4 stroke, Mercury with a standard 3 blade, medium pitch, narrow blade
prop. Is it worth switching to maybe 4 blade or 3 blade, high thrust model?
Appreciate your advice.
Chris Greco



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Long Island, NY
Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 08:25:36 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 08:25:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
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Message-ID: <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B358551CCBB2@rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>

The only downside I have found with my high thrust prop on my 9.9hp is it provides me with too much speed at times.  When I'm approaching my slip at the lowest possible throttle I'm still going faster than I would like and I have to shift into neutral to slow down.  Also, when cruising alongside other sail boats at low throttle, I'm outrunning them.  Now when I want to get up and go, the prop really does its thing and I use next to no gas over the season.  Just a consideration. - Rob

Rob Lowe
s/v still no name
96 Rhodes

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:03 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?

Was just reading about propeller selection and the advantages of using a high thrust prop. Said  low pitch, and larger blade provided more thrust at slow and high speed, less prop walk due to lower pitch, and better reverse handling. Anyone with experience with this issue? I currently am using a 6 hp, 4 stroke, Mercury with a standard 3 blade, medium pitch, narrow blade prop. Is it worth switching to maybe 4 blade or 3 blade, high thrust model?
Appreciate your advice.
Chris Greco



-----
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Great South Bay
1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 08:43:12 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 05:43:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
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Good point Rob. Thanks for that feedback.  I usually shift into neutral
before making the turn into my slip anyway. How is your reverse performance
and prop walk?
Chris Greco



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 08:45:45 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 08:45:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
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Chris,

I installed Tohatsu's "Elephant Ear" high-thrust prop, 8.4" dia/6" pitch, on
our Tohatsu 6 HP 4 stroke, replacing the standard 7.7" dia/8" pitch prop.  I
didn't notice much difference in performance other than, perhaps, an
increase in boat vibration.  I reinstalled the standard prop. 

We have, however, a set of "Power Thruster" stainless steel ears on the
motor, which I installed mostly to prevent the rudder from being sucked into
the spinning prop when I inevitably drop the tiller at an inopportune time.
They work well, and we may already be getting any advantages of the
high-thrust prop.  (If you Google "Power Thruster, you'll get a few
non-nautical responses.")

Steve
Granville, Oh


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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?

Was just reading about propeller selection and the advantages of using a
high thrust prop. Said  low pitch, and larger blade provided more thrust at
slow and high speed, less prop walk due to lower pitch, and better reverse
handling. Anyone with experience with this issue? I currently am using a 6
hp, 4 stroke, Mercury with a standard 3 blade, medium pitch, narrow blade
prop. Is it worth switching to maybe 4 blade or 3 blade, high thrust model?
Appreciate your advice.
Chris Greco



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 09:29:20 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:29:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
In-Reply-To: <1409277763410-48486.post@n5.nabble.com>
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We have a 5 year old Yamaha high thrust 8 hp motor with 
the big prop but it also is geared for high thrust. The 
biggest advantage we've seen is motoring in steep chop. 
Somehow we don't cavitate nearly as much as we did with 
our old Honda - also a high thrust model but the prop was 
smaller. The prop really digs in. It is different backing 
but can't describe how.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
  The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
wrote:
> Was just reading about propeller selection and the 
>advantages of using a high
> thrust prop. Said  low pitch, and larger blade provided 
>more thrust at slow
> and high speed, less prop walk due to lower pitch, and 
>better reverse
> handling. Anyone with experience with this issue? I 
>currently am using a 6
> hp, 4 stroke, Mercury with a standard 3 blade, medium 
>pitch, narrow blade
> prop. Is it worth switching to maybe 4 blade or 3 blade, 
>high thrust model?
> Appreciate your advice.
> Chris Greco
> 
> 
> 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 09:32:07 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
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Good to know Steve. Thanks



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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 11:47:46 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:47:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rummy - and you thought your lake as bad
Message-ID: <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B358551CCDF5@rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>

Be glad we don't sail in California. - Rob
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/28/californias-drought-what-losing-63-million-gallons-of-water-looks-like/?hpid=z8


Rob Lowe


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Fri Aug 29 21:18:47 2014
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 18:18:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rummy - and you thought your lake as bad
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That's why where I sail is connected to the big pond!



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Chris Greco
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug 30 07:20:56 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 07:20:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH THRUST PROP?
Message-ID: <a9eae.658b7fac.41330d98@aol.com>

Steve,
It has been my experience that if the rudder is in the full down (meaning  
forward) position, it will not come in contact with the prop.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2014 8:45:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

Chris,

I installed Tohatsu's "Elephant Ear" high-thrust  prop, 8.4" dia/6" pitch, 
on
our Tohatsu 6 HP 4 stroke, replacing the  standard 7.7" dia/8" pitch prop.  
I
didn't notice much difference in  performance other than, perhaps, an
increase in boat vibration.  I  reinstalled the standard prop. 

We have, however, a set of "Power  Thruster" stainless steel ears on the
motor, which I installed mostly to  prevent the rudder from being sucked 
into
the spinning prop when I  inevitably drop the tiller at an inopportune time.
They work well, and we  may already be getting any advantages of the
high-thrust prop.  (If  you Google "Power Thruster, you'll get a few
non-nautical  responses.")

Steve
Granville, Oh


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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014  10:03 PM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] HIGH  THRUST PROP?

Was just reading about propeller selection and the  advantages of using a
high thrust prop. Said  low pitch, and larger  blade provided more thrust at
slow and high speed, less prop walk due to  lower pitch, and better reverse
handling. Anyone with experience with this  issue? I currently am using a 6
hp, 4 stroke, Mercury with a standard 3  blade, medium pitch, narrow blade
prop. Is it worth switching to maybe 4  blade or 3 blade, high thrust model?
Appreciate your advice.
Chris  Greco



-----
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Long Island, NY
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1987 Rhodes 22,  Blue Hawaii
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sat Aug 30 22:43:36 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 22:43:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel and osmosis repair - update
In-Reply-To: <8B007F66-E3A3-4598-AE81-FD503F631C5B@bellsouth.net>
References: <8e52a.352d4082.410cd375@aol.com>
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Finally, after working on the bottom and keel for most of the Summer I
finished today except for the spots where the boat is supported on the lift.
For those who may be considering the need for osmosis repair, I have a few
observations about Interprotect 2000e barrier coating that might be of use.

I spent a lot of time trying to decide whether to go with the West System
barrier coat or the Interprotect 2000e. I am glad now that I went with the
Interprotect. Here are the advantages as I experienced it:
	- Interprotect goes on like paint. It has a 5 hr pot life (probably
more) but dries on the boat very quickly. This I think is a big advantage
over the West system where you have to make small batches and work within a
narrow window to get it on before it starts to go off. Interprotect is much
more forgiving. 
	- Interprotect comes in white and gray. Alternating colours ensures
complete coverage and I found that to be surprisingly helpful.
	- With temperatures in the high 70s I was able to recoat as soon as
I finished the previous coat. Interlux says that it should take 3 hrs at
that temperature for the coating to dry sufficiently - measured by the fact
that you can press your thumb into the coating without any paint transfer to
your thumb. It took me about 1 hour to apply a coat with each coat a bit
faster than the previous one and once finished the place where I started
already was ready for recoating.
	- I used 3 gallons of Interprotect and was able to apply 6 coats
with about 1 quart waste - partly because I was using two colours and that
means more waste. The first coat took 3/4 of a gallon and subsequent coats
slightly less than 1/2 gallon. 
	- Using the 3/8 nap rollers, as recommended, I was able to get coats
that were 3 mils thick. Interlux suggests a total of  10 mils which they say
requires 4-5 coats. I put on 6 coats because I already had the paint and was
not sure I could trust my film thickness gauge. It appears that I applied
about 18 mils so that should be more than adequate.
	- After the last coat of interprotect I was able to apply the
antifouling almost immediately but waited about 1hr in order to have lunch.
I hope I didn't delay too long. I used Bottomkote Act for the antifouling
primarily because it was rated so well by Practical Sailor. It goes on
beautifully over the interprotect and is supposed to bond chemically with it
if applied at the right time. I guess I will find out whether my timing was
right after I launch.
	- Interlux tells me to launch within 60 days of applying the
antifouling and to apply the antifouling immediately after the interprotect
is applied. In my case I can't do both so I applied only the first coat of
antifouling and will apply the second before launch.

In total the work involved in stripping the old paint, osmosis repair and
recoating was gruesome work and took a ridiculous amount of time. Boat
repair seems to consist mainly of applying epoxy and then sanding most of it
off - usually overhead.

Using 3 gallons of polyester resin I and filled the voids in the keel.
Hopefully I got most of the voids. I filled the cracks in the keel with
thickened epoxy and covered the cracks with 4 lavers of cloth and epoxy. I
covered the exterior of the keel with 2 layers of cloth and epoxy and then
faired the whole thing with West  resin and fairing additives.  I used
Interlux Watertight fairing for the final imperfections. It is very
expensive but wonderful to work with as it applies so easily and sands
easily without amine blush. In the end it is probably cheaper than West for
these small repairs as you can make up much smaller batches than is possible
with West.  

Using the 3M 3030 masking tape for the water line worked very well. I had it
on the boat in the sun for well over a month and it came off very cleanly
with no residue. It was unaffected by the epoxy. It was removed about 30 hrs
after the first coat of epoxy barrier coat was applied. The edge is not as
sharp as blue masking tape but it is surprisingly  good and I am happy with
the result. Being able to leave it on the boat for up to 90 days was a real
benefit.

I am so glad to get that part done. Now I need to remove the supports from
the lift so I can apply the interprotect and antifouling to those spots. I
hope to do that tomorrow if the weather cooperates. Then the boat will be
removed from the lift and returned to the temporary shelter for the winter
and eventual completion I have been in a rush to complete this stage as I am
going to the UK for most of September and wanted the boat out of the lift
before I leave next Wednesday. Past September it will likely be too cold to
do any of this type of work.

The cut thumb is pretty much healed except that one half has no feeling at
all and the other half is constantly burning. Otherwise I am able to use it
now that I am learning to judge pressure without feeling. The good news was
that it was my left hand. The bad news is that I am left handed. I heard on
the radio the day after my attempted self-amputation that home amputations
have become most common and typically involve a band saw and the victim is
the thumb on the dominant hand. So it appears that my attempt was quite
trendy, if not entirely successful, for which I am grateful. Be warned, it
doesn't take much of a slip to do a lot of damage with a band saw.


Graham 
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 11:34:10 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:34:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel and osmosis repair - update
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Beautiful job, Graham. 

FWIW, I sliced my thumb with a loooong chip coming off a lathe about 4 or 5
years ago, and it left my thumb with the symptoms you've described. After
about 6-8 months it no longer felt like I'd stuck my thumb in an electric
socket whenever I touched something, but a dead spot began to appear
(couldn't feel anything at that spot). After about 15 months, feeling began
to come back. Now the thumb is about normal again. 

Sadly, the same can't be said of its owner.

Dennis
Magic Moments
Wondering if the mast bracket will ever be done.


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:44 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keel and osmosis repair - update

Finally, after working on the bottom and keel for most of the Summer I
finished today except for the spots where the boat is supported on the lift.
For those who may be considering the need for osmosis repair, I have a few
observations about Interprotect 2000e barrier coating that might be of use.


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 12:37:50 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:37:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel and osmosis repair - update
In-Reply-To: <004401cfc531$03b16320$0b142960$@com>
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Dennis:
We Rhodies have so much in common it is scary sometimes. Your outcome is
encouraging. Hopefully my thumb will do the right thing too.

Graham 



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: August-31-14 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keel and osmosis repair - update

Beautiful job, Graham. 

FWIW, I sliced my thumb with a loooong chip coming off a lathe about 4 or 5
years ago, and it left my thumb with the symptoms you've described. After
about 6-8 months it no longer felt like I'd stuck my thumb in an electric
socket whenever I touched something, but a dead spot began to appear
(couldn't feel anything at that spot). After about 15 months, feeling began
to come back. Now the thumb is about normal again. 

Sadly, the same can't be said of its owner.

Dennis
Magic Moments
Wondering if the mast bracket will ever be done.


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:44 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keel and osmosis repair - update

Finally, after working on the bottom and keel for most of the Summer I
finished today except for the spots where the boat is supported on the lift.
For those who may be considering the need for osmosis repair, I have a few
observations about Interprotect 2000e barrier coating that might be of use.

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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 12:59:58 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:59:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
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I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board under
the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the boat the board,
which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but that left too much
pressure on the front of the bunks which in turned deformed the hull. When I
began the restoration I doubled the thickness to 4" to take the pressure off
the bunk and the hull gradually regained its shape but not without many
gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now that I have fixed the damaged areas and am
about to return the boat to the trailer from the lift I would really like to
confirm what the thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage
the hull. That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the
hull on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.

I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most of the
boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks are primarily to
stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is true or should the bunks
take more or most of the load? If my theory is correct I might fiddle with
the thickness of the keel plate as the boat is lowered onto the trailer to
minimize the weight on the front bunk strut. 

Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.

Graham 


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 13:54:22 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:54:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
In-Reply-To: <003401cfc53c$ff4e39a0$fdeaace0$@ca>
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On my trailer, the 2x6 bunks are held to the curve of the hull, and all of
the weight.  The keel is hanging free, the centerboard is held up by the
roller at the top of the keel guide.  If the 2x6 bunks are deforming the
hull, are the bunks curved with the hull or could the boat be sitting too
far forward on the trailer due to the adjustable bow stop?

--
Curtis
1979, s/v "Ruck It"

On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board under
> the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the boat the board,
> which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but that left too much
> pressure on the front of the bunks which in turned deformed the hull. When
> I
> began the restoration I doubled the thickness to 4" to take the pressure
> off
> the bunk and the hull gradually regained its shape but not without many
> gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now that I have fixed the damaged areas and
> am
> about to return the boat to the trailer from the lift I would really like
> to
> confirm what the thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage
> the hull. That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the
> hull on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.
>
> I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most of the
> boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks are primarily
> to
> stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is true or should the bunks
> take more or most of the load? If my theory is correct I might fiddle with
> the thickness of the keel plate as the boat is lowered onto the trailer to
> minimize the weight on the front bunk strut.
>
> Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.
>
> Graham
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 17:43:09 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:43:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
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Hi Curtis:

That was not what I expected to hear so I appreciate the feedback. I have
always tried to put the boat as far forward as I could as otherwise there is
not enough weight on the tongue. Is there a way to determine how far forward
the boat should be? How far back does you adjustable bow stop extend when
the boat is placed optimally?

Thanks 

Graham 



-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-31-14 1:54 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup

On my trailer, the 2x6 bunks are held to the curve of the hull, and all of
the weight.  The keel is hanging free, the centerboard is held up by the
roller at the top of the keel guide.  If the 2x6 bunks are deforming the
hull, are the bunks curved with the hull or could the boat be sitting too
far forward on the trailer due to the adjustable bow stop?

--
Curtis
1979, s/v "Ruck It"

On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board 
> under the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the boat 
> the board, which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but that left 
> too much pressure on the front of the bunks which in turned deformed 
> the hull. When I began the restoration I doubled the thickness to 4" 
> to take the pressure off the bunk and the hull gradually regained its 
> shape but not without many gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now that I 
> have fixed the damaged areas and am about to return the boat to the 
> trailer from the lift I would really like to confirm what the 
> thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage the hull. 
> That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the hull 
> on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.
>
> I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most 
> of the boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks are 
> primarily to stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is true or 
> should the bunks take more or most of the load? If my theory is 
> correct I might fiddle with the thickness of the keel plate as the 
> boat is lowered onto the trailer to minimize the weight on the front 
> bunk strut.
>
> Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.
>
> Graham
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> __________________________________________________
>
__________________________________________________
To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list

For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to
http://www.rhodes22.org/list
__________________________________________________


From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 19:58:03 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:58:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
In-Reply-To: <003801cfc564$8eb5e300$ac21a900$@ca>
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Graham,

Curtis is exactly right.  As Stan has told the list many times, the keel is
not designed to hold the weight of the boat.  It's the bunks on the side.
 The boat shape will change but that is not an issue as it will go right
back to where it should be once it is in the water.

The design of the boat has lasted MANY years without extra support, so
anything you add would probably not work with how the boat is designed to
behave.  Gelcoat cracks are a way of life on boats. You can repair them,
but they will come right back so you are really just chasing your tail.
 Forget about the cracks, put her in the water and go sailing.

Hank


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:43 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hi Curtis:
>
> That was not what I expected to hear so I appreciate the feedback. I have
> always tried to put the boat as far forward as I could as otherwise there
> is
> not enough weight on the tongue. Is there a way to determine how far
> forward
> the boat should be? How far back does you adjustable bow stop extend when
> the boat is placed optimally?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> Email
> List
> Sent: August-31-14 1:54 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
>
> On my trailer, the 2x6 bunks are held to the curve of the hull, and all of
> the weight.  The keel is hanging free, the centerboard is held up by the
> roller at the top of the keel guide.  If the 2x6 bunks are deforming the
> hull, are the bunks curved with the hull or could the boat be sitting too
> far forward on the trailer due to the adjustable bow stop?
>
> --
> Curtis
> 1979, s/v "Ruck It"
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board
> > under the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the boat
> > the board, which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but that left
> > too much pressure on the front of the bunks which in turned deformed
> > the hull. When I began the restoration I doubled the thickness to 4"
> > to take the pressure off the bunk and the hull gradually regained its
> > shape but not without many gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now that I
> > have fixed the damaged areas and am about to return the boat to the
> > trailer from the lift I would really like to confirm what the
> > thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage the hull.
> > That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the hull
> > on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.
> >
> > I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most
> > of the boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks are
> > primarily to stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is true or
> > should the bunks take more or most of the load? If my theory is
> > correct I might fiddle with the thickness of the keel plate as the
> > boat is lowered onto the trailer to minimize the weight on the front
> > bunk strut.
> >
> > Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 19:57:41 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:57:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
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My adjustable bow stop is somewhere between 10-14."  When I look at the
bunks, the 2x6's curve perfectly with the hull shape.  I actually dread the
day I have to replace the bunks due to trying to replicate the curve.  I
already have to replace one of the

Due to my crappy ramp (16' to end of ramp at low tide, and extremely
steep), I typically end up with a neutral or negative tongue weight, but
when i can get the boat on the trailer decently, the tongue weight is only
about 50-75lbs or so.

I have no better suggestions, the boat just always seems to sit right on
the bunks for me.

--
Curtis


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:43 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hi Curtis:
>
> That was not what I expected to hear so I appreciate the feedback. I have
> always tried to put the boat as far forward as I could as otherwise there
> is
> not enough weight on the tongue. Is there a way to determine how far
> forward
> the boat should be? How far back does you adjustable bow stop extend when
> the boat is placed optimally?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
> Email
> List
> Sent: August-31-14 1:54 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
>
> On my trailer, the 2x6 bunks are held to the curve of the hull, and all of
> the weight.  The keel is hanging free, the centerboard is held up by the
> roller at the top of the keel guide.  If the 2x6 bunks are deforming the
> hull, are the bunks curved with the hull or could the boat be sitting too
> far forward on the trailer due to the adjustable bow stop?
>
> --
> Curtis
> 1979, s/v "Ruck It"
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board
> > under the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the boat
> > the board, which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but that left
> > too much pressure on the front of the bunks which in turned deformed
> > the hull. When I began the restoration I doubled the thickness to 4"
> > to take the pressure off the bunk and the hull gradually regained its
> > shape but not without many gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now that I
> > have fixed the damaged areas and am about to return the boat to the
> > trailer from the lift I would really like to confirm what the
> > thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage the hull.
> > That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the hull
> > on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.
> >
> > I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most
> > of the boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks are
> > primarily to stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is true or
> > should the bunks take more or most of the load? If my theory is
> > correct I might fiddle with the thickness of the keel plate as the
> > boat is lowered onto the trailer to minimize the weight on the front
> > bunk strut.
> >
> > Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 22:09:03 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:09:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
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Message-ID: <003901cfc589$b41cee20$1c56ca60$@ca>

Curtis:

That is helpful. In future I will not try to bring the boat forward as I was
in the past. In reality, I seldom trailer the boat except to take it to the
ramp about 4 miles away and for winter storage so I will try to find a
comfortable place for it and hope I can avoid the deformation. I gather that
has not been a problem for you. What year is your boat?

Graham 


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-31-14 7:58 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup

My adjustable bow stop is somewhere between 10-14."  When I look at the
bunks, the 2x6's curve perfectly with the hull shape.  I actually dread the
day I have to replace the bunks due to trying to replicate the curve.  I
already have to replace one of the

Due to my crappy ramp (16' to end of ramp at low tide, and extremely steep),
I typically end up with a neutral or negative tongue weight, but when i can
get the boat on the trailer decently, the tongue weight is only about
50-75lbs or so.

I have no better suggestions, the boat just always seems to sit right on the
bunks for me.

--
Curtis


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:43 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hi Curtis:
>
> That was not what I expected to hear so I appreciate the feedback. I 
> have always tried to put the boat as far forward as I could as 
> otherwise there is not enough weight on the tongue. Is there a way to 
> determine how far forward the boat should be? How far back does you 
> adjustable bow stop extend when the boat is placed optimally?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
> Email List
> Sent: August-31-14 1:54 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
>
> On my trailer, the 2x6 bunks are held to the curve of the hull, and 
> all of the weight.  The keel is hanging free, the centerboard is held 
> up by the roller at the top of the keel guide.  If the 2x6 bunks are 
> deforming the hull, are the bunks curved with the hull or could the 
> boat be sitting too far forward on the trailer due to the adjustable bow
stop?
>
> --
> Curtis
> 1979, s/v "Ruck It"
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board 
> > under the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the 
> > boat the board, which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but 
> > that left too much pressure on the front of the bunks which in 
> > turned deformed the hull. When I began the restoration I doubled the
thickness to 4"
> > to take the pressure off the bunk and the hull gradually regained 
> > its shape but not without many gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now 
> > that I have fixed the damaged areas and am about to return the boat 
> > to the trailer from the lift I would really like to confirm what the 
> > thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage the hull.
> > That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the 
> > hull on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.
> >
> > I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most 
> > of the boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks 
> > are primarily to stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is 
> > true or should the bunks take more or most of the load? If my theory 
> > is correct I might fiddle with the thickness of the keel plate as 
> > the boat is lowered onto the trailer to minimize the weight on the 
> > front bunk strut.
> >
> > Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.
> >
> > Graham
> >
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 22:17:13 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
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Thanks Hank.
I noticed in the General Boats web site that at some point the hull
thickness was increased in order to address the problem of trailer
deformation so it may be that it is more problematic for a boat of my
vintage (76) than later years. Somehow I don't think that multiple gelcoat
cracks  going down into the substrate is something that I should be too
complacent about. I am inclined to keep some of the weight off the forward
end of the bunks or move the boat back as suggested by Curtis at least until
I can reinforce that area of the hull - which I can do fairly easily as all
of the inside structure has been removed. I think that adding two layers of
cloth and epoxy on the inside of the hull should stiffen it up considerably.
I sure hope so.

Graham 


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August-31-14 7:58 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup

Graham,

Curtis is exactly right.  As Stan has told the list many times, the keel is
not designed to hold the weight of the boat.  It's the bunks on the side.
 The boat shape will change but that is not an issue as it will go right
back to where it should be once it is in the water.

The design of the boat has lasted MANY years without extra support, so
anything you add would probably not work with how the boat is designed to
behave.  Gelcoat cracks are a way of life on boats. You can repair them, but
they will come right back so you are really just chasing your tail.
 Forget about the cracks, put her in the water and go sailing.

Hank


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:43 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hi Curtis:
>
> That was not what I expected to hear so I appreciate the feedback. I 
> have always tried to put the boat as far forward as I could as 
> otherwise there is not enough weight on the tongue. Is there a way to 
> determine how far forward the boat should be? How far back does you 
> adjustable bow stop extend when the boat is placed optimally?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
> Email List
> Sent: August-31-14 1:54 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
>
> On my trailer, the 2x6 bunks are held to the curve of the hull, and 
> all of the weight.  The keel is hanging free, the centerboard is held 
> up by the roller at the top of the keel guide.  If the 2x6 bunks are 
> deforming the hull, are the bunks curved with the hull or could the 
> boat be sitting too far forward on the trailer due to the adjustable bow
stop?
>
> --
> Curtis
> 1979, s/v "Ruck It"
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I am hoping that someone can tell me what the thickness of the board 
> > under the keel should be for the RC trailer. When I first got the 
> > boat the board, which I doubt was the original one, was a 2x6 but 
> > that left too much pressure on the front of the bunks which in 
> > turned deformed the hull. When I began the restoration I doubled the
thickness to 4"
> > to take the pressure off the bunk and the hull gradually regained 
> > its shape but not without many gelcoat cracks haring formed. Now 
> > that I have fixed the damaged areas and am about to return the boat 
> > to the trailer from the lift I would really like to confirm what the 
> > thickness of the plate should be so that I don't re-damage the hull.
> > That would put me in a foul mood. Later I intend to reinforce the 
> > hull on the inside while the hull is in the proper shape.
> >
> > I am working from the theory, in the absence of knowledge, that most 
> > of the boat's weight should rest on its keel and the trailer bunks 
> > are primarily to stabilize the load. Does anyone know if that is 
> > true or should the bunks take more or most of the load? If my theory 
> > is correct I might fiddle with the thickness of the keel plate as 
> > the boat is lowered onto the trailer to minimize the weight on the 
> > front bunk strut.
> >
> > Any help with this question would be appreciated very much.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> > __________________________________________________
> >
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From rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org  Sun Aug 31 22:43:05 2014
From: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 Email List)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:43:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RC trailer setup
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My bunks are 2x6 treated wood, covered in indoor/outdoor carpeting, and they
support the weight of the boat. Magic Moments' keel is a little above the
roller, and the bow is as far forward as I can get it to ensure I've got
enough tongue weight. The lower 2x6s only guide the keel; they don't offer
any support. If you want the bow stop extended for some reason, you can stow
something forward to the V berth, bring the motor onboard (secure it to the
cockpit floor and give it a bit of cushioning), top off the water tank, etc.
to help with the balance of the boat while towing.

Right now, Magic Moments is in a lift on 2x6s perpendicular to the waterline
- i.e. there isn't much fiberglass bearing the weight of the boat
(especially the forward supports). This is with a 110 pound outboard, 9 gal
of gas, 7-15 gal of water, etc. It also includes the not-unsubstantial
weight of the crew from time to time (another 4 or 5 hundred pounds).
Despite the weight concentration, there has been no gel coat cracking or
oil-canning of the hull. 

Pictures tomorrow, when I have some light. 

Dennis 
Magic Moments
Looking forward to finding some open water on Lake Erie on Memorial Day


-----Original Message-----

On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:43 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hi Curtis:
>
> That was not what I expected to hear so I appreciate the feedback. I 
> have always tried to put the boat as far forward as I could as 
> otherwise there is not enough weight on the tongue. Is there a way to 
> determine how far forward the boat should be? How far back does you 
> adjustable bow stop extend when the boat is placed optimally?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>