[Rhodes22-list] cabin floor mast step repair
Ken Bates
btskend at gmail.com
Mon May 5 12:26:51 EDT 2014
Hi Jerry
Just about to unwrap (still in 40’s) warmer weather is forecast and dock is in.
its been two full seasons (i think) and no real issues. I should have worked on the main stringers while the sole was up
as there were a few soft spots that could have used some penetrating liquid repair stuff. my bilge is always dry so its not progressing any. I was a bit shy on alcohol (for epoxy cleanup) wouldn’t waste good rum on cosmetics.
there is a tiny bit of rubbing (creaking) between the privacy bulkhead and the counter when heeled. but i don’t think thats my fault.
Ken
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> 5. Re: swing keel help (Christopher Greco)
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:37:23 -0400
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler height
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> Bill,
>
> I don't think it would matter much if the sheet block is always in the
> center. Sheet tension will just have to be a little more overdone on a
> reach.
>
> Maybe a new hat would be easier.
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Bill Pauer <billpauer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Can I raise the bar of my traveler? As you can see it is interfering with
>> my comfort. I don't have a tape out here this morning but I am estimating
>> that the bar is 16" off the gunnels. I had a '80 model and it seemed to be
>> hire. I should also probably fess up that I really don't use the traveler
>> properly. I have it set to the center and there it stays.
>> Thanks
>> Bill
>> PS
>> Great day to sail on Lake Keowee in SC.
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:41:23 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
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> Close & in the water is best.
>
> 30 minute drive or less = much more sailing.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> soon to be on a mooring 30 min from home in Quincy, MA
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> On May 3, 2014, at 9:51 PM, butterchurn <amazingmisterx at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Well some time ago, I said I wanted to move south. Well, I received a call
>> from my previous employer asking me to come back. He really needs me. So I
>> said I would. The only problem is it isn't south. It is in the wrong
>> direction. I will be going to Minneapolis.
>>
>> I have a choice of a number of lakes to give Ozone a new home. I could put
>> her at Lake Pepin (the closest) on the Mississippi. It is about 2 miles wide
>> and 23 miles long and the area is beautiful. I could go to Lake Superior,
>> but it is 2.5 hours away. I could go to Lake Mille Lacs, but it is primitive
>> as far as marinas go.
>>
>> Any thoughts or experiences with this area?
>>
>> Ron
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:52:39 -0400
> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
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> Mine is similar height - but does not bother my head. I must sit differently @ the helm. A good rigger may be able to raise it for you. My question would be re the main sheet geometry afterward & will it affect performance.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee2
> Needham, MA
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>> Can I raise the bar of my traveler? As you can see it is interfering with my comfort. I don't have a tape out here this morning but I am estimating that the bar is 16" off the gunnels. I had a '80 model and it seemed to be hire. I should also probably fess up that I really don't use the traveler properly. I have it set to the center and there it stays.
>> Thanks
>> Bill
>> PS
>> Great day to sail on Lake Keowee in SC.
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 15:21:51 -0400
> From: Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] swing keel help
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> Chris
> The ?stay set? adds friction when changing radius, independent of keel weight ( which is quite light for 1/4 nylon with 4 to 1?) Flexible = low friction in the blocks, stiff = higher friction. IT will be noticeable, try it before you put the cap back on.
> ken
> On May 4, 2014, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
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>> Swing keel help
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 16:49:34 -0400
> From: Christopher Greco <chrissailorman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] swing keel help
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> Makes sense...so you are saying sta-set is ok vs sta-set x.... I was
> thinking amsteel dyneema....mainly for strength...but dont know how
> flexible it is....will check both tomorrow. Stan said to use something
> pre-stretched. ..
> On May 4, 2014 3:22 PM, "Ken Bates" <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Chris
>> The ?stay set? adds friction when changing radius, independent of keel
>> weight ( which is quite light for 1/4 nylon with 4 to 1?) Flexible = low
>> friction in the blocks, stiff = higher friction. IT will be noticeable, try
>> it before you put the cap back on.
>> ken
>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
>>
>>> Swing keel help
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mrbabs <Marc at babineauins.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
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> Hello fellow Rhodies - hoping one of the brilliant electricians can answer a
> question.
>
> I have a rocker switch mounted in the cockpit that operates the motor lift.
> Well it used to operate the lift but now does nothing.
>
> I tested the winch by jumping direct from a battery to confirm the winch is
> working. I removed the switch, disassembled and saw evidence of some minor
> arcing so I ordered a replacement. BUT, the wire running from the positive
> post in the lazarette has a block of some type attached to the terminal.
> It's about one inch square with a rusted metal cover. Does anyone know what
> this gizmo is? A relay or fuse?
>
> Based on its condition, I'm thinking I should probably replace it while I'm
> changing out the switch. Any ideas what it is and what I need to order?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Marc B
>
> S/V Baby Steps
> East Greenwich, RI
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:38:32 -0500
> From: "James Nichols" <jfn302 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
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> Most likely it is an overload relay. But if you could provide a picture we
> could be sure.
>
> James
>
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> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mrbabs
> Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 9:14 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>
> Hello fellow Rhodies - hoping one of the brilliant electricians can answer a
> question.
>
> I have a rocker switch mounted in the cockpit that operates the motor lift.
> Well it used to operate the lift but now does nothing.
>
> I tested the winch by jumping direct from a battery to confirm the winch is
> working. I removed the switch, disassembled and saw evidence of some minor
> arcing so I ordered a replacement. BUT, the wire running from the positive
> post in the lazarette has a block of some type attached to the terminal.
> It's about one inch square with a rusted metal cover. Does anyone know what
> this gizmo is? A relay or fuse?
>
> Based on its condition, I'm thinking I should probably replace it while I'm
> changing out the switch. Any ideas what it is and what I need to order?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Marc B
>
> S/V Baby Steps
> East Greenwich, RI
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: butterchurn <amazingmisterx at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Moving
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> I will keep her at Hamson's Marina on Lake Pepin. In the mean time, this
> summer I will still be on Lake Erie.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 07:35:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Moving
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> Lake Pepin is a great place to sail. My first experience on a catamaran was
> on Lake Pepin in 1983.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/4/2014 10:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> amazingmisterx at gmail.com writes:
>
> I will keep her at Hamson's Marina on Lake Pepin. In the mean time, this
> summer I will still be on Lake Erie.
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 09:11:20 -0400
> From: Ric Stott <ric at steelbone.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing keel help
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> I used some 1/4 low stretch that I had already- It's not stay set, but
> I'm not sure what it is. it works and it was free.
> I didn't have to replace blocks, but the two blocks mounted under the
> cap were attached with 3" long #12 bolts that stuck up through the cap
> and were covered with white silicone. I took a guess at how these
> should be attached and waterproof - hope it works.
> two weeks to launch.
> Ric
> s/v Dadventure
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 3, 2014, at 10:37 PM, chrissailorman wrote:
>
>> Fine job Ric...what line did you use? And did you replace any of the
>> blocks?
>> Haven't been able to locate exact replacements for the ones attached
>> to the
>> centerboard.... Spoke with Stan and he offered some alternatives.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Chris Greco
>> Long Island, NY
>> Great South Bay
>> 1986 Rhodes 22, Blue Hawaii
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 10:31:39 -0400
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
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> Marc,
> I'm going to guess an inline fuse or fusible link. I've got the same arrangement, but don't recall seeing this on mine. Perhaps it is a fuse and that's why your switch is not working? - rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mrbabs
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 10:14 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Wiring Question
>
> Hello fellow Rhodies - hoping one of the brilliant electricians can answer a question.
>
> I have a rocker switch mounted in the cockpit that operates the motor lift.
> Well it used to operate the lift but now does nothing.
>
> I tested the winch by jumping direct from a battery to confirm the winch is working. I removed the switch, disassembled and saw evidence of some minor arcing so I ordered a replacement. BUT, the wire running from the positive post in the lazarette has a block of some type attached to the terminal.
> It's about one inch square with a rusted metal cover. Does anyone know what this gizmo is? A relay or fuse?
>
> Based on its condition, I'm thinking I should probably replace it while I'm changing out the switch. Any ideas what it is and what I need to order?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Marc B
>
> S/V Baby Steps
> East Greenwich, RI
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:29:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] [Fwd: Ken Bates]
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> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
> Date: Sun, May 4, 2014 4:56 pm
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> I'm starting the same mast -cabin floor repair you did, and so nicely
> documented. Have you sailed her yet? Is there anything you would do
> differently? If you think of anything, I'm all ears.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry Lowe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:30:53 -0400 (EDT)
> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] [Fwd: Pop-top encloseure repair]
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> Subject: Pop-top encloseure repair
> From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
> Date: Sat, May 3, 2014 11:51 pm
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> My 10+ year old PTE was starting to come apart at the seams. the thread on
> both zippers on the door were streached tight and missing in the top
> couple inches on both sides. Where the PTE goes around the mast was
> showing the same wear. I took it to the closest Amish tarp and canvas
> shop. I told the tarp guy that I'd like to make it last a year or two more
> if I could. He told me that this material shrinks after a decade of abuse,
> and he would add 3/4" of new canvas on each side of the zippers on the
> door and put a patch on the hole at the mast. Hoping to keep the price
> down, I told him I was more concerned about protection than perfection. He
> didn't see it that way. I picked it up today, and It looked great. As he
> reached for the work order, I braced myself. He said, including tax,that
> will be $ 17.21. I handed him a 20 $ bill, said thanks, and left a very
> happy customer. He even cleaned the whole PTE and except for scratches on
> the windows It looked new.
>
> Jerry Lowe
>
>
>
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