[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Wed Aug 12 16:44:33 EDT 2015


I changed the subject of this line to reflect the contents relating to
cockpit scubbers.

Yes, in fact I just finished installing cockpit scuppers about 20 minutes
ago - having started 3 years ago. In my boat (79) the cockpit drains above
the lazarette originally had 3/4" mushroom thru-hulls. These small
thru-hulls were constantly being clogged and seemed inadequate to me when
the cockpit needed to drain quickly. 

The area around where they were placed was depressed - presumably so the
water would funnel into the drain. The depression was defeated by the
mushroom cap and so water always pooled around the thru-hull and stained the
gel coat. The same was true for the cockpit drain where the mushroom cap
prevented the all the water from draining out.

Years ago I simply removed the 3/4" " thru-hulls and replaced them with 1
1/2" ones in the deck and transom. That let the water flow with much less
clogging but I still got the pool around the thru-hull.

I have since installed flush mounted scuppers in both  the deck and in the
cockpit drain. For the deck drains, I filled the depression with epoxy with
fairing powder and then sanded it flush with the surrounding area. I then
painted the entire deck of the boat but you could patch the area with gel
coat. I was planning to paint the deck anyway. 

I used a Dremel with a sanding drum to create the hole with bevel sides and
then made a donut of plywood that I attached under the hole with thickened
epoxy for strength and depth. The ones under the deck has to be tapered to
fit as the bottom side of the deck is not horizontal to the deck.

I now have flush-mounted scuppers that should eliminate the problem of water
stains. This was not a particularly difficult job but it took longer than
you might expect as it is fussy.

I can send photos if you want them

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
List
Sent: August 12, 2015 2:10 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris' Bahamian Adventure

The rhodes has a very large cockpit...above waterline. Has anyone added
large stern scuppers to help rid the cockpit of water in rough conditions?

> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:48 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Helen,
> 
> If you have not already, check out the archives for Bill's last Bahamas
Adventure in his R22. 
> 
> He went with his son and a friend and had a blast. He chronicled his
journey in detail and is a great storyteller. 
> 
> Now, I just need to find someone crazy enough to crew with me. My 
> admiral is not comfortable in open water :(
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
> S/V AIRPOWER
> 1991/2013 Jacksonville, FL
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> We have made the trip to the Bahama's many times...but never in a
>> Rhodes22...:)  I think that is the perfect Bahama's boat.  We went  
>> over every other year for almost 10 years while living aboard our 
>> cruising  boat..My husband and I have both commented while 
>> refurbishing out Rhodes22...how  nice it would be to take her 
>> over..health and age will prevent us...but we sure admire you all 
>> getting together to make that trip..We normally checked in at Bimini 
>> and did the normal route  .....  Chub...Nassau... down to  Georgetown 
>> stopping at all the out islands along the Exumas..across to  Long and 
>> then up to Cat and through the upper Bahamas and home to Port
Canaveral...We enjoyed every trip...Hopefully you will send reports as you
go...:):)
>> ENJOY!!!!!!!!!    Helen
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 8/12/2015 9:53:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>> 
>> Chris,
>> Are you talking about the Sapona?  It is located  near Alicetown, Bimini.

>> It is an old concrete ship (constructed out of  concrete, that is) 
>> that was used as target practice during WWII and was the  target for 
>> the practice run of the "Lost Patrol" of Bermuda Triangle  fame.  It 
>> was also used as a staging area for running alcohol during  
>> prohibition.  And a great place to snorkel and scuba dive.  Or...are  
>> you talking about an even older wreck...maybe some treasure hunting?
>> 
>> I  would like to make another run over there and may join if schedule 
>> permits.  Between you, Ted, me, and anyone else, we would have a nice  
>> little flotilla ... and maybe create some marketing buzz to 
>> re-kickstart  Stan's boatbuilding business.
>> 
>> Bill W.
>> s/v Fina  Lee
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 
>> 22 Email List
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:48  AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris'  Bahamian Adventure
>> 
>> Hey Ted,
>> I'm open and flexible as far as a launch point.  Key Largo sounds  good.

>> Bimini is the easiest to check into and I want to check out a  wreck 
>> that is in the area.  Very, very old. and not mentioned by anyone  I've
talked to.
>> We would stay in the Bahamas for 4-6 weeks I should  think.  I would 
>> be thrilled to have another Rhodes or two to tag  along.
>> Timewise I think it would be in April.  I would like to get  back to 
>> Fl by no later than mid May so I can ship the boat to Italy by early  
>> June.  Lets keep in touch, maybe recruit a few fellow Rhodies?  I'll
send some links on
>> what the Enosis is up to in a couple of weeks or so.   Things never quite

>> go as you plan.
>> Chris G.
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at  10:06 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> Hope all is well. I am very  interested in hearing more about the 
>>> Bahamian plans.
>>> 
>>> After reading about Bill W's infamous Bahamian Adventure and your 
>>> upcoming plans, I may be interested (and crazy enough) in the 
>>> possibilities of tagging along with S/V Airpower. I've made the Gulf 
>>> Stream crossing many times as a kid growing up in south Florida, but 
>>> that was in powerful multi engine fishing boats.
>>> 
>>> Where do you  plan to launch? I assume somewhere around Key Largo. 
>>> You may want to  consider this trailer sailor friendly marina.
>>> http://southdademarina.com/.
>>> 
>>> Will you clear immigration in  Bimini? Where will you head from there?
>>> 
>>> When do you think you  might head south? You mentioned in the 
>>> spring, but do you have a  target month? March? April?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ted (have EPIRB,  will travel)
>>> 
>>> S/v Airpower
>>> Jacksonville,  FL
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:34 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List  <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I  shall keep all of you guys in mind and let you know about the
>>> "disposable
>>>> equipment".  An you guys know me, I can't help  but journal about 
>>>> Enosis
>>> and
>>>> Rhodes in  general.  Also anyone and any time is more than welcome 
>>>> to come along in their boat for any segment of the grand adventure, 
>>>> it would be
>>> fun.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:25 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List  < 
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chris,  Bon voyage in the Med!  Please keep a narrative and  photo
>>> journal
>>>>> of your wanderings- all of us on the  list will be a rapt audience.
>>>>>       Please also keep me in mind for the trailer and the truck as 
>>>>> well.
>>>>> Richard Arking, R22 in Sheepshead Bay,  Brooklyn, ny
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM,  The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh,
>>>>>> If anyone is interested, I will be placing "Enosis" on a 
>>>>>> roll-on-Roll-off freighter bound for Italy next  spring.  I will
>>> transfer
>>>>> it
>>>>>> to a cheap throw away trailer.  I currently am using a really 
>>>>>> nice
>>>>>> 2003 Triad trailer designed for the Rhodes.  It has  electric 
>>>>>> breaks and
>>> brand
>>>>>> new 9 ply trailer tires.  I'll probably put less than 12,000 
>>>>>> miles on
>>> the
>>>>>> tires when I am  ready to sell.  So, if you are thinking about a 
>>>>>> trailer
>>>>> in
>>>>>> great shape and well cared  for, for next season, let me know.  I 
>>>>>> was thinking  about selling the tow vehicle which is a 2003 F-250 
>>>>>> diesel
>>> with
>>>>>> only 101K.  The truck was garage  kept its whole life.  Well up 
>>>>>> until
>>> now,
>>>>>> and I will store it under a cover most of the  time.  So as I get 
>>>>>> near sending Enosis on its  Mediterranian tour, I'll let you guys 
>>>>>> know about
>>>>> the
>>>>>> truck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh, and I forgot to mention that I may  join you for part of 
>>>>>>> your
>>>>> Bahamas
>>>>>>> trip.  With so many Rhodes in the East Coast area maybe we can 
>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> group together.  Please keep us posted on your plans.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill Wickman
>>>>>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  22 
>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>> List
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:23 AM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 & Sailing Desolation Sound
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I for one am REALLY looking forward  to reading about the 
>>>>>>> adventures of Enosis.   Chris weaves a really good yarn of his 
>>>>>>> trips with  the perfect
>>>>>> mix
>>>>>>> of pictures and  descriptions that paints a vivid picture of 
>>>>>>> what it  is
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to "be there".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill Wickman
>>>>>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>> List
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:56 AM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22  & Sailing Desolation 
>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Glad you enjoyed the tale Patrick.  My wife and I plan  on an 
>>>>>>> encore of
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the best sailing adventures we've had in the last 20 years,  and 
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>> So 2 months in Desolation sound is on the calendar this  summer.  
>>>>>>> Then
>>> a
>>>>>>> repeat of the Mexican adventure but for 5 months this comming
>> winter.
>>>>>> Then
>>>>>>> a repeat of the  Bahama adventures in the following spring but 
>>>>>>> only  for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> month or so.  Then stick  the boat on a freighter and over to 
>>>>>>> Italy
>>> next
>>>>>>> summer.  I'll try to post the adventures  and anyone interesting 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>> us along the way on their boat, we would  welcome some Rhodie
>> company.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:36 PM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was wandering by www.rhodes22.com recently and came  across 
>>>>>>>> the odyssey of Enosis on the front  page.  Downloadable .pdf 
>>>>>>>> files of Chris'  adventures.
>>>>>>>> Some of you may enjoy the read as I  did.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For some reason  with the first file I had to right-click on it 
>>>>>>>> and open in a new window (windows exploder and chrome) but the 
>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>> opened
>>>>>>>> with just a click.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Patrick
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