[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Thu Aug 13 12:00:45 EDT 2015


Looks similar to the stock drains on my recycled boat. 

The original question posted by an anonymous person was "Has anyone added large stern scuppers to help rid the cockpit of water in rough conditions?"

Maybe they meant "larger" than the current design?

Has anyone been in a situation where they felt the current design wasn't adequate?

I guess it depends on how rough we are talking about here. 

Cheers,
Ted







> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:21 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> Perhaps I'm missing something here. It doesn't appear that you have added a 
> scupper, you simply replaced the existing GB drainage system with 
> different  fittings. One on the cockpit floor and the other the seat.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/13/2015 9:11:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
> 
> Larry:
> Here are the pictures of the deck and cockpit  scuppers.
> Underside photo shows where I ground down the surface to  something
> reasonably flat and then used the plywood donut that I sanded to  a wedge
> shape to give a lower surface that was parallel to the upper  surface.
> Otherwise the scupper goes in at an angle.
> 
> 
> Graham  Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario  Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
> Email
> List
> Sent: August 12, 2015 6:32  PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit  Scuppers
> 
> Graham,
> 
> It would be great to see photos of  this
> 
> Larry Allen
> Makai
> Sarasota  
> larrywallen at verizon.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
> Email
> List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015  4:45 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Cockpit Scuppers
> 
> I changed the subject of this line to reflect the  contents relating to
> cockpit scubbers.
> 
> Yes, in fact I just finished  installing cockpit scuppers about 20 minutes
> ago - having started 3 years  ago. In my boat (79) the cockpit drains above
> the lazarette originally had  3/4" mushroom thru-hulls. These small
> thru-hulls were constantly being  clogged and seemed inadequate to me when
> the cockpit needed to drain  quickly. 
> 
> The area around where they were placed was depressed -  presumably so the
> water would funnel into the drain. The depression was  defeated by the
> mushroom cap and so water always pooled around the  thru-hull and stained 
> the
> gel coat. The same was true for the cockpit drain  where the mushroom cap
> prevented the all the water from draining  out.
> 
> Years ago I simply removed the 3/4" " thru-hulls and replaced them  with 1
> 1/2" ones in the deck and transom. That let the water flow with much  less
> clogging but I still got the pool around the thru-hull.
> 
> I have  since installed flush mounted scuppers in both  the deck and in  the
> cockpit drain. For the deck drains, I filled the depression with epoxy  with
> fairing powder and then sanded it flush with the surrounding area. I  then
> painted the entire deck of the boat but you could patch the area with  gel
> coat. I was planning to paint the deck anyway. 
> 
> I used a Dremel  with a sanding drum to create the hole with bevel sides and
> then made a  donut of plywood that I attached under the hole with thickened
> epoxy for  strength and depth. The ones under the deck has to be tapered to
> fit as the  bottom side of the deck is not horizontal to the deck.
> 
> I now have  flush-mounted scuppers that should eliminate the problem of 
> water
> stains.  This was not a particularly difficult job but it took longer than
> you might  expect as it is fussy.
> 
> I can send photos if you want them
> 
> Graham  Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario  Canada
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
> Email
> List
> Sent: August 12, 2015 2:10  PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris'  Bahamian Adventure
> 
> The rhodes has a very large cockpit...above  waterline. Has anyone added
> large stern scuppers to help rid the cockpit of  water in rough conditions?
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:48 AM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Helen,
>> 
>> If you have not already, check out the  archives for Bill's last 
>> Bahamas
> Adventure in his R22. 
>> 
>> He went with his son and a friend and had a blast. He chronicled  his
> journey in detail and is a great storyteller. 
>> 
>> Now, I  just need to find someone crazy enough to crew with me. My 
>> admiral is  not comfortable in open water :(
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We  have made the trip to the Bahama's many times...but never in a
>>> Rhodes22...:)  I think that is the perfect Bahama's boat.  We went  
>>> over every other year for almost 10 years while living aboard our  
>>> cruising  boat..My husband and I have both commented while  
>>> refurbishing out Rhodes22...how  nice it would be to take  her 
>>> over..health and age will prevent us...but we sure admire you  all 
>>> getting together to make that trip..We normally checked in at  Bimini 
>>> and did the normal route  .....   Chub...Nassau... down to  Georgetown 
>>> stopping at all the out  islands along the Exumas..across to  Long and 
>>> then up to Cat  and through the upper Bahamas and home to Port
> Canaveral...We enjoyed every  trip...Hopefully you will send reports as you
> go...:):)
>>> ENJOY!!!!!!!!!    Helen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a  message dated 8/12/2015 9:53:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> Are you talking about the Sapona?  It is located  near Alicetown,  
> Bimini.
> 
>>> It is an old concrete ship (constructed out of   concrete, that is) 
>>> that was used as target practice during WWII  and was the  target for 
>>> the practice run of the "Lost  Patrol" of Bermuda Triangle  fame.  It 
>>> was also used as  a staging area for running alcohol during 
>>> prohibition.  And  a great place to snorkel and scuba dive.  Or...are 
>>> you  talking about an even older wreck...maybe some treasure hunting?
>>> 
>>> I  would like to make another run over there and may join if  schedule 
>>> permits.  Between you, Ted, me, and anyone else, we  would have a nice 
>>> little flotilla ... and maybe create some  marketing buzz to 
>>> re-kickstart  Stan's boatbuilding  business.
>>> 
>>> Bill W.
>>> s/v Fina   Lee
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>> From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The  Rhodes
>>> 22 Email List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015  1:48  AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject:  Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris'  Bahamian Adventure
>>> 
>>> Hey Ted,
>>> I'm open and flexible as far as a launch point.  Key  Largo sounds  good.
> 
>>> Bimini is the easiest to check into  and I want to check out a  wreck 
>>> that is in the area.   Very, very old. and not mentioned by anyone  
>>> I've
> talked  to.
>>> We would stay in the Bahamas for 4-6 weeks I should   think.  I would 
>>> be thrilled to have another Rhodes or two to  tag  along.
>>> Timewise I think it would be in April.  I  would like to get  back to 
>>> Fl by no later than mid May so I  can ship the boat to Italy by early 
>>> June.  Lets keep in  touch, maybe recruit a few fellow Rhodies?  I'll
> send some links  on
>>> what the Enosis is up to in a couple of weeks or  so.   Things never 
> quite
> 
>>> go as you plan.
>>> Chris G.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at  10:06 AM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>   wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> Hope all is well. I am very  interested in hearing more about the  
>>>> Bahamian plans.
>>>> 
>>>> After  reading about Bill W's infamous Bahamian Adventure and your 
>>>> upcoming plans, I may be interested (and crazy enough) in the 
>>>> possibilities of tagging along with S/V Airpower. I've made the Gulf  
>>>> Stream crossing many times as a kid growing up in south  Florida, but 
>>>> that was in powerful multi engine fishing  boats.
>>>> 
>>>> Where do you  plan to launch? I  assume somewhere around Key Largo. 
>>>> You may want to   consider this trailer sailor friendly marina.
>>>> http://southdademarina.com/.
>>>> 
>>>> Will you clear  immigration in  Bimini? Where will you head from there?
>>>> 
>>>> When do you think you  might head south? You mentioned  in the 
>>>> spring, but do you have a  target month? March?  April?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ted (have  EPIRB,  will travel)
>>>> 
>>>> S/v  Airpower
>>>> Jacksonville,  FL
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:34 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email  List  <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I  shall keep all of you  guys in mind and let you know about the
>>>> "disposable
>>>>> equipment".  An you guys know me, I can't  help  but journal about 
>>>>> Enosis
>>>> and
>>>>> Rhodes in  general.  Also anyone and any  time is more than welcome 
>>>>> to come along in their boat for  any segment of the grand adventure, 
>>>>> it would  be
>>>> fun.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris &  Alice
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:25 AM,  The Rhodes 22 Email List  < 
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris,  Bon voyage in the Med!  Please keep  a narrative and  photo
>>>> journal
>>>>>> of  your wanderings- all of us on the  list will be a rapt  audience.
>>>>>>      Please also keep  me in mind for the trailer and the truck as 
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Richard Arking, R22 in Sheepshead Bay,   Brooklyn, ny
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1,  2015 at 1:37 AM,  The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh,
>>>>>>> If anyone is  interested, I will be placing "Enosis" on a 
>>>>>>> roll-on-Roll-off freighter bound for Italy next  spring.  I  will
>>>> transfer
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> to a cheap throw away trailer.  I  currently am using a really 
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> 2003 Triad trailer designed for the  Rhodes.  It has  electric 
>>>>>>> breaks  and
>>>> brand
>>>>>>> new 9 ply trailer  tires.  I'll probably put less than 12,000 
>>>>>>> miles on
>>>> the
>>>>>>> tires when I am   ready to sell.  So, if you are thinking about a  
>>>>>>> trailer
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> great shape and well cared  for, for next  season, let me know.  I 
>>>>>>> was thinking   about selling the tow vehicle which is a 2003 F-250  
>>>>>>> diesel
>>>> with
>>>>>>> only 101K.  The truck was garage   kept its whole life.  Well up 
>>>>>>> until
>>>> now,
>>>>>>> and I will store it  under a cover most of the  time.  So as I get  
>>>>>>> near sending Enosis on its  Mediterranian  tour, I'll let you guys 
>>>>>>> know  about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> truck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar  24, 2015 at 10:33 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <  
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh, and I  forgot to mention that I may  join you for part of  
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Bahamas
>>>>>>>> trip.  With so many Rhodes in the  East Coast area maybe we can 
>>>>>>>> get  a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> group  together.  Please keep us posted on your  plans.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bill  Wickman
>>>>>>>> s/v Fina  Lee
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  22  
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:23  AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22  & Sailing Desolation Sound
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I for one am REALLY looking forward  to  reading about the 
>>>>>>>> adventures of  Enosis.   Chris weaves a really good yarn of his  
>>>>>>>> trips with  the  perfect
>>>>>>> mix
>>>>>>>> of  pictures and  descriptions that paints a vivid picture of  
>>>>>>>> what it  is
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to "be  there".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bill  Wickman
>>>>>>>> s/v Fina  Lee
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22  
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:56  AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email  List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Rhodes22  & Sailing Desolation 
>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Glad  you enjoyed the tale Patrick.  My wife and I plan  on an  
>>>>>>>> encore of
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the best sailing adventures we've had in  the last 20 years,  and 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>>> So 2  months in Desolation sound is on the calendar this  summer.   
>>>>>>>> Then
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> repeat of the Mexican adventure but for 5  months this comming
>>> winter.
>>>>>>> Then
>>>>>>>> a repeat of the  Bahama adventures  in the following spring but 
>>>>>>>> only   for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> month or  so.  Then stick  the boat on a freighter and over to  
>>>>>>>> Italy
>>>> next
>>>>>>>> summer.  I'll try to post the  adventures  and anyone interesting 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>>> us  along the way on their boat, we would  welcome some Rhodie
>>> company.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On  Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:36 PM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List <  
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I  was wandering by www.rhodes22.com recently and came  across  
>>>>>>>>> the odyssey of Enosis on the front   page.  Downloadable .pdf 
>>>>>>>>> files of  Chris'  adventures.
>>>>>>>>> Some of you may  enjoy the read as I  did.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For some reason  with the first file  I had to right-click on it 
>>>>>>>>> and open in a  new window (windows exploder and chrome) but the  
>>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>> opened
>>>>>>>>> with just a  click.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Patrick
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