[Rhodes22-list] Installation of Edson wheel steering

Sat Nov 28 11:02:45 EST 2015

Thanks for your reply, Larry. A wheel is certainly a modification that is not for everyone....so I appreciate your follow-up comments. I found it to be the 'straw' that enabled me to sail by myself...others may find not so convenient.How fortunate we are to have a boat that adapts itself so easily!
elle Beer is good....people are crazy

1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
watermusic38 at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, November 27, 2015 7:07 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

 Elle,

I didn't intend for my observations and experience with a wheel to be a negative assessment. I saw the wheel as a bonus, even with a relative loss of tiller feel and responsiveness. The gain in forward visibility was a significant plus in an area like Sarasota Bay that often is populated with strings of floats from crab traps. 

Very glad you and others have had a good experience with their wheels. It just wasn't going to work for us without a great deal of additional time and effort to reconstruct it. And I welcome the additional cockpit space.

Larry
Makai
Sarasota

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Hi, Larry ,
I'm quite sorry that you had issues with your wheel installation . I must reply to your negative assessment as this poisons the well for the few of us who have wheel steering and have had no issues with it. 
 Placement of the pedestal may well be a problem depending on the avoirdupois of the captain; careful placement alleviates this issue.
My '92 Rhodes had no issues whatsoever with the litany you have described; leading back to installation procedures. when done properly (read "Recycled Rhodes" ) you will have a boat that thrives even when the owner may be somewhat neglectful at times.

Elle

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> On Nov 26, 2015, at 10:59 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> The previous owner installed an Edson wheel on our 86 Rhodes, I don’t know where the installation was done. He liked to stand while steering and the wheel offered the advantage of better forward visibility. I initially was enthusiastic about the wheel and it got a lot of comments from other sailers, but there were issues with it.
> 
> As you suggest, placement is important. It was located at least 6 inches too close to the lazarette and there wasn’t enough room to stand comfortably behind it. Remember that the shaft and wheel extend several inches behind the column, taking up additional space. Installing a wheel requires a commitment to use a lot of cockpit space for it.
> 
> There are other issues with a wheel as well. Installation requires a sizable access hole behind the column to make adjustments and secure the bolts. The access hole cover at some point began to leak. We also found that over the years stresses on the column had weakened the integrity of the mounting on the cockpit sole. Water had entered the mount base and destroyed the plywood under the fiberglass. We’re in the process of rebuilding the sole without the wheel. I wanted to replace it but concluded it’s probably not possible to install a wheel without risking water damage to the sole. I also doubt that the sole is strong enough to support a wheel installation over an extended period without significant reinforcement. 
> 
> If you proceed, I’d suggest reinforcing the area where you position the wheel and make sure you leave enough space in front of the lazarette.
> 
> If you want to discuss this I'm at larrywallen at verizon.net
> 
> 
> Larry
> Makai
> Sarasota
> 
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> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 10:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Installation of Edson wheel steering
> 
> You could have saved yourself quite a bit of trouble by purchasing one w/wheel steering which is in Edenton as we speak.
> Works great...
> elle Beer is good....people are crazy
> 
> 
> 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red} watermusic38 at yahoo.com 
> 
> 
>    On Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:33 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
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> 
> If you have a “support agreement” with General Boats (Stan Spitzer), he will provide you with the info that you seek.  I only know of one R22 with wheel steering and I believe that General Boats, producer of the R22, did the set up. 
> 
> Bob in Stuart  R22 “NoKaOi 3” 
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 9:03 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
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>> Hello all. I am the new owner of a 1993 Rhodes 22 which I am 
>> converting to wheeled steering. I wonder if any one has done this or 
>> has a Rhodes 22 with the Edson wheeled steering package. I am looking 
>> for any advice as to how forward of the lazeratte I should place the 
>> steering post. I have ordered a 22 inch wheel and I am thinking the 
>> steering post and guard should be 22 inches forward of the lazeratte, 
>> but I am not at all sure.Any advice and experience with this would be 
>> greatly appreciated.Brent
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