[Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Tue Oct 6 11:23:37 EDT 2015


   Graham,
   Here is a drawing from the archives which I made some years ago,
   showing the two different rudder designs.
   [1]http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/2012012
   6/dcfb293e/attachment.JPG
   Todd T
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   Sent from my Android phone with [2]mail.com Mail. Please excuse my
   brevity.

   The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

     Yes, mine is plywood about 1.5" thick.
     Graham Stewart
     Agile. R22, 1976
     Kingston Ontario Canada
     -----Original Message-----
     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
     22 Email
     List
     Sent: October 5, 2015 1:28 PM
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Graham,
     Yes that is the old style rudder head. It is a slab of wood or
     composite material with metal plates. What is yours made of? It`s
     difficult to tell from your picture on my phone.
     The newer rudders are of a sandwich design. Two outer panels with
     sandwiched filler strips and no metal plates. I`m not on my
     computer
     so I don`t have a picture to post, but here is a link to a video of
     a
     newer style gusset head. You can see a bit of the rudder in the
     video.
     [1][3]https://youtu.be/mOcg2sM6hTk
     Todd T
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     brevity.
     The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
     Todd:
     I am not sure what you mean by the "slab type rudder head" but I
     have
     attached a picture of mine - patiently waiting in my basement to be
     reinstalled.
     Graham Stewart
     Agile. R22, 1976
     Kingston Ontario Canada
     -----Original Message-----
     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
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     List
     Sent: October 5, 2015 11:46 AM
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Are you guys still using the old slab type rudderheads like the one
     in
     this picture?
     Todd T.
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     brevity.
     The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
     Thanks Rob. Mine is a 76 as well and that was no doubt the
     arrangement it
     came with originally.
     Graham Stewart
     Agile. R22, 1976
     Kingston Ontario Canada
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     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
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     List
     Sent: October 5, 2015 10:34 AM
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Graham,
     Some of the earlier boats used a wire "traveler". Here is a photo
     from my
     previous boat, a 76 model. John Locke had the same setup until he
     added the
     traveler track, which has already been posted. - Rob Lowe
     [2][3][4]http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/2006
     10/
     20/
     travelerlowe
     r.jpg
     -----Original Message-----
     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
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     List
     Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 9:38 AM
     To: `The Rhodes 22 Email List`
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Joe:
     When I originally bought my boat there was no traveller at all and
     the main
     sheet block was simply attached to the pedestal stand bracket on
     the cockpit
     sole. Later I installed a proper traveller that ran across the
     cockpit seats
     immediately in front of the lazarette. That works fairly well but I
     like the
     idea of moving it up and out of the way. Buying the rig from Stan
     is pretty
     expensive from Canada and I would like to use the gear I have if
     possible.
     The problem I see with attaching my track to a bar is that this
     might create
     a twisting action that might play on the back stays. It looks to me
     like the
     traveller car in the photo runs directly on the tube and this would
     eliminate the twist.
     If anyone has a close up picture of the traveller that would help
     or if
     anyone has rigged their own I would be interested to see what they
     did.
     Graham Stewart
     Agile. R22, 1976
     Kingston Ontario Canada
     -----Original Message-----
     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
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     List
     Sent: October 4, 2015 9:36 PM
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Graham:
     Where (how) IS your traveler attached? The standard R-22
     configuration
     has two ss cups attached to the back the back stays about 16 to 24
     inches
     above the stern freeboard. Traveler clips into these cups with snap
     fittings. It`s tough to see in the second pic, as my right hand had
     the bar
     securely in its grasp. (it`s a Freudian thing, I suppose) This is
     the old
     version. Maybe some other Rhodies have pictures more definitive
     than this.
     I have pasted the pics right in here at the message. Let me know if
     they
     don`t make it to you. "Sail `em if ya got `em."
     Joe
     From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     To: `The Rhodes 22 Email List` <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:44 PM
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Joe:
     Thanks for the response but my question wasn`t clear. My traveller
     is not
     attached to the back stays at all. I was wondering what is needed
     to attach
     it there. I was wondering if I might take the track, attach it to a
     stainless steel tube and then work out some way to attach the
     traveller to
     the back stays. How are they attached now?
     Graham Stewart
     Agile. R22, 1976
     Kingston Ontario Canada
     -----Original Message-----
     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
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     List
     Sent: October 4, 2015 11:20 AM
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler(Graham)
     Graham:
     The changeover is best made while your boat is resting up from a
     long
     season of sailing. I took the existing traveler off and sent it to
     Stanville. There the General Boats craftsmen transformed it into
     the new
     version and sent it home again, where I tucked it away till sailing
     season
     then reinstalled it exactly like the old one. Then, "plop, plop -
     fizz,
     fizz, oh what a relief it is," (AlkaSeltzer).
     Moving the main from side to side in order to sail closer to the
     wind is
     a breeze (pun always intended). The boom will stay right where you
     put it.
     I like to experiment with it, play around. Hey, you`re sitting on
     your ass
     anyway. Why not use the time to become friendlier with your boat,
     the wind
     and wonderful combination these two things produce: you as a
     sailor. Ready
     about! Hard to lee!
     Joe Camp
     Looking for a Pulitzer Prize
     From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     To: `The Rhodes 22 Email List` <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 10:32 AM
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler
     Joe:
     What is involved in retrofitting the mew traveller to a boat that
     had the
     old standard deck-mounted traveller? I have the split back stay.
     Thanks,
     Graham Stewart
     Agile. R22, 1976
     Kingston Ontario Canada
     -----Original Message-----
     From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
     [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes
     22 Email
     List
     Sent: October 3, 2015 1:23 PM
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler
     To the traveller troubled:
     Stan`s new traveller design makes this operation a breeze and gives
     this
     amazing boat another card up its sleeve. (That`s a metaphorical
     sleeve;
     boats don`t have jackets with sleeves) I find myself using it all
     of the
     time, compared to the old traveller, which I avoided unwrapping at
     all. My
     best advice is to buy this item... Spend some money at GBI and get
     Stan out
     of the natural food store and back into the business of building
     superior
     sailboats. (By the way, Stan does have sleeves, and they`re loaded
     with
     surprise cards.)
     Joe Camp
     s/v John Dawson
     Bohemnia River, MD
     From: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
     Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 4:49 PM
     Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Windward sheeting traveler
     I don`t understand your complaint. Mine and everyone I`ve seen
     sheet to
     windward.
     Rick
     Regards,
     Rick
     On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
     rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
     > After many years of racing (and losing), hardware that I relied
     on and
     > would still enjoy using is a windward sheeting traveler. Perhaps
     in
     > the Rhodes 22 the stainless tube that connects the traveler and
     > backstay lines would need to be replaced with a custom bar that
     could
     > accommodate the ws traveler and backstays. I don`t know. In a
     > cruising boat it may be unnecessary fluff. Nonetheless, reaching
     to
     > adjust the traveler in both a breeze and a calm is a bit
     inefficient, I
     think. Any ideas?
     >
     > --
     > Jay Marshall Weiss
     > Hanali R22
     > Poughkeepsie, NY
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