[Rhodes22-list] [SUSPECTED SPAM] RE: Chainplates and handrails installed

Tue Sep 22 12:49:02 EDT 2015

Graham:  Here Here!  Well said!!  You just captured the essence of the DIY sailor!

Bob (palatka)
P.s. I am racing you, but yours looks much better!

> On Sep 22, 2015, at 10:29 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Rob:
> Working with epoxy is not difficult but I understand why it might seem
> intimidating. I have used epoxy often in reconstructing a for structural
> repairs on a wooden boat but this boat is the first time I used it for
> surface finishing. So, put this way, it can't possibly be all that
> difficult. Using the fairing additive for the final work makes it is easy to
> sand the surface very smooth with no visible seam. However, in this case I
> did not use gel coat as I completely painted the deck using System Three
> waterborne epoxy paint. Gel coat patching is more difficult in terms of
> getting the color just right and I have virtually no experience with it.
> Other than the color, I don't think gel coat is all that difficult if you
> take your time. There are great videos on YouTube that show how it is done.
> 
> My undertaking of big projects is in no way a function of either skill of
> experience. I am just foolish. But inevitably I find that it is not as
> difficult as it seems and there is virtually nothing that can't be fixed or
> redone when, not if, you screw it up. I just take my time and am prepared to
> do it repeatedly until I can live with the result. In the end, I do it
> because I like doing it and seeing the result. Reconstruction has to be a
> satisfying process not just a necessary evil that must be endured to get to
> the end product. If I didn't enjoy doing it I would never have gotten this
> far and definitely I would not have been able to justify either the time or
> expense. I am a social worker by training so that didn't help in any
> technical sense. 
> 
> So, if you enjoy the process, I don't think there is anything that a person
> who can read can't do. The only thing that is impossible, in my books, is to
> complete anything  according to the time line that I thought was extremely
> generous when I started. Everything takes much longer than I expected so I
> now refuse to tell anyone - especially my wife - when I think the task will
> be completed. The lack of technical skill is not the enemy of such projects,
> it is being impatient to finish.
> 
> Graham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: September 22, 2015 8:42 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplates and handrails installed
> 
> Graham,
> 
> I must say, you do some wonder looking work.  I'm in awe at how good your
> chain plate repairs look.  As someone who has never worked with epoxy or
> glass, I wouldn't even think of attempting what you are doing.  I understand
> grinding out an area and refilling it with epoxy and sawdust, but how to you
> put the gel coat layer on?  I've got a couple of areas on my boat that could
> use a similar treatment but I wouldn't know where to start.  The new grab
> rails look fabulous too! - Rob
> 
> Rob Lowe
> (still no name) R22
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> List
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:13 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplates and handrails installed
> 
> I just completed installing the new lower chainplates and cabin handrails
> and attach some photos for those  who might be interested in these projects.
> 
> I removed the lower chainplates by grinding out a fairly large area and then
> filled the space with epoxy and sawdust. This created a very solid core that
> gave what I hope and expect will be a good place for the new forged eye
> bolts that I am using as the new lower chainplates that bolt through the
> cabin top. They are sealed with butyl. They cost about $14 each in Canada -
> about double the price in the US.
> 
> I replaced the original teak handrails with and 18" and a 24" rail on each
> side. I also installed 9" handrails at the front of the cockpit. They are
> thru-bolted and sealed with butyl after filling the hole with epoxy and
> thickener. The six rails cost about $120 Canadian. They should be
> maintenance free and, I think, look good with the new windows.
> 
> Butyl, aside for its excellent qualities as a sealant, is also wonderful to
> work with. Given that I do everything a minimum of two times (if I am lucky)
> and in the case of the handrail installation, multiple times, it was
> remarkably easy to remove the rails and clean up the butyl left behind.
> Butyl sticks poorly to everything except itself. As a result you don't need
> to mask the area as you can just lift off the butyl that squeezes onto the
> deck. To get the tiny bits you can just dab them with a ball of butyl. No
> gloves needed. Butyl never hardens so you have no time limits around
> installation of cleanup. I can't imagine doing this task with sealant. 
> 
> The deck looks white in the photo but actually it is an off-white on the
> brown side (System Three Whidby white). 
> 
> Next job, if I can get to it before it gets too cold, is to paint the
> non-skid areas with Kiwigrip. Then, time permitting, will be the rest of the
> deck hardware.
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: September 15, 2015 11:57 AM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electrical help- nav light anchor light combo
> 
> Ted,
> 
> The diagram shows that you can hook the light up to a single switch that
> will be three positions, Front only, Both, or all off.
> 
> This switch would work perfectly.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/6Pin-DPDT-ON-OFF-ON-3-Position-Snap-Boat-Rocker-Swit
> ch-6A-250V-10A-125V-AC-/291287946050?hash=item43d21d5342
> 
> Hook your power to both the center pins. 
> Then hook the white wire to 1a and 1b (marked on the side of the switch).
> Finally, connect the grey wire to 2b.
> 
> Set up this way, the forward light will be lit when the switch is set to the
> single dash, and will have both lights lit when the rocker is moved to the
> two dash position.
> 
> James
> 1971 Rhodes Continental, Still unnamed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 11:50 AM
> To: Da List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electrical help- nav light anchor light combo
> 
> So, I am trying to figure out the best way to wire my nav lights and anchor
> light. It turns out my factory installed perko masthead light is both a
> steaming light and a anchor light. Who knew?!? When I turn on the masthead
> light on the circuit panel it only turns on the front steaming light part. 
> 
> I always just thought it was just a steaming light. However, it is not wired
> with a switch to turn on the rear anchor light. Not to my knowledge anyway.
> See perko wiring instructions. 
> 
> http://www.perko.com/images/catalog/pdf/Figs%201181&84%20Inst%20(1181INS1).p
> df
> 
> So I take it I need to wire in a switch to control both?
> 
> How do you guys have your setup?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
> 
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