[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Fri Sep 25 11:35:56 EDT 2015 

Graham:
 
If you figure out a system that would work...we may be looking at the same  
thing soon...We will know more when we splash soon..We are hoping that once 
in  the water our centerboard may lift easier also.....thanx 
 
Helen
Sanford Fl...still don't have a boat name :)
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2015 11:04:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

I wonder  if anyone has gone without blocks on the older centerboard. I 
like the idea of  abandoning the blocks but when I "tested" it on my boat by 
simply trying to  raise the board while on dry land it seemed to require a lot 
of effort.  Perhaps when in the water it would be easier. On my boat I 
found that the  blocks had all seized up so going without them might eliminate 
something that  can, and will,  go wrong.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22,  1976
Kingston Ontario Canada






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Yes we do have the "diamond board" and that may make a difference  for the 
angle of the pennant to the attachment points. However, we did  originally 
have a block or blocks. I believe (but don't
know) that they are  similar weights.

Mary Lou

At 11:46 AM 9/24/2015, you  wrote:
>Don't you have the diamond board Mary  Lou?
>Jerry
>
>
>  We are amongst those who have  dispensed with the blocks.
> >
> > It makes it very easy to  change out the pennant with the boat up in 
> > slings for bottom  painting (after doing it ourselves for several 
> > years, we now pay  a marina to bottom paint the boat.)  And we 
> > haven't found  it hard to raise or lower the centerboard - I do that 
> >  mostly.  It's not effortless, but it's not hard either.
>  >
> > Best,
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22  Fretless
> >
> > At 11:36 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
>  >>Here is a crude diagram of how mine is set up on a 76 boat. The  
> >>difference between this and Rob's is that the line starts at  the cap 
> >>rather than the centreboard. In Ron's case there will  be three 
> >>attachment points on the centerboard while with mine  there are just 
> >>two. Frankly, I would not worry too much about  the route you take.
> >>Using blocks should make raising the  centerboard easier but 
> >>apparently some have dispensed with  the blocks altogether. I tested 
> >>that myself and found that  the weight on the line was substantial 
> >>and aside for the  effort to raise it, that put a lot more strain on 
> >>the cleat.  It may be, however, that the newer "diamond"
> >>centerboards  require less effort to raise.
> >>Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976  Kingston Ontario Canada 
> >>-----Original Message-----  From:
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>  >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  
> >>22 Email List Sent:
> >>September 23, 2015 5:07  PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: 
> >>[Rhodes22-list]  Boat Show? Depends on your setup, but here is one 
> >>possible  routing. - Rob 
>  >>http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-lis
>  t/attachments/20140507/b8028f59/attachment.JPG
> >>Rob Lowe  -----Original Message----- From:
>  >>rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>  >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  
> >>22 Email List Sent:
> >>Wednesday, September 23,  2015 4:43 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List 
> >>Subject:  Re:
> >>[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? Might search the  archives,  but I 
> >>remember a diagram of being posted of  the pendant and associated 
> >>blocks,  I believe it listed  the length of line needed.
> >>James. Sent from Yahoo Mail on  Android From:"The Rhodes 22 Email 
> >>List"
>  >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date:Wed, Sep 23,
>  >>2015 at 12:49 PM Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? I agree with  
> >>Graham. Use the yacht braid (anyone know the ideal length  needed?).
> >>Yours probably was replaced with inferior  line.  Keep an eye out for 
> >>something sharp.  I  wouldnt whip the line. Bob (palatka) > On Sep 
> >>23, 2015, at  11:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List 
>  >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > > Slim: > The  line also has to 
> >>pass through a series of blocks and I would  be concerned that the 
> >>whipping might not pass through  properly. I would skip the whipping 
> >>and try to find out what  is fraying the line. Mine is still good 
> >>after 40 years so I  expect there is some rough edge rubbing on the 
> >>line that  might be corrected fairly easily. > > Graham Stewart > 
>  >>Agile. R22,
> >>1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada >  > > > > -----Original Message----- 
> >>>  From:
> >>rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org > 
>  >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  
> >>22 > Email List > Sent:
> >>September 22,  2015 10:18 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > 
> >>Subject:  Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? > > Thanks all for the 
>  >>welcoming replies.
> >>Nice to see some familiar names and  old friends.
> >>Fandango's been on the hard for a few years while  I went through 
> >>some major changes but I finally got her in  the water this summer 
> >>and remembered why I like this boat so  much. I've done quite a bit 
> >>of much-needed maintenance and  still more to come but the 
> >>centerboard line was about to  break so that's the priority now. > > 
> >>I was able to get  in contact with Stan who said the neoprene gasket 
> >>should be  reusable and that any quarter inch line will do, although 
>  >>I'll look for the high quality yacht braid Bob suggests. I'm 
>  >>thinking a whipping right where it gets cleated would be a good idea  
> >>so long as it doesn't bulk up the line too much to slide  through the 
> >>hole. While I have the line out I might drill  that hole just a 
> >>little bigger. I never want to do this job  again so an anti-chafe 
> >>whip came to mind. > > I started  in on it today and took off the 
> >>breaker panel, the big board  that serves as the companionway step, 
> >>settee and hinged  passageway (all one piece), the step support and 
> >>the floor  board around the trunk. I counted 56 bolts around the 
> >>trunk!  They're ss phillips heads (many stripped out heads at that
> >>--  don't know why they'd be stripped -- how many times has the trunk 
>  >>been removed?) with washers and lock nuts. It's a royal PITA 
>  >>removing even the bolts with the good heads to say nothing of the  
> >>stripped ones! I got about half of them off and quit for the  day. > 
> >>> This may take a while but there should be  plenty of good weather 
> >>left in the season to work on it  before it gets too cold so no need 
> >>to rush through it. [grin]  I'll try to get some photos and keep you 
> >>posted. > >  Thanks again everybody! > > -Slim > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 
>  >>2015 at 3:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>  >>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>
>  >>Slim: Use high quality yacht braid.  It will last longer than  other 
> >>>> line in a cam cleat. >> The gasket is  neoprene and doesnt need a 
> >>sealant. Just clean the >>  surfaces really well. >> If your cap is 
> >>put on with  screws, most recommend changing to ss >> bolts and 
>  >>nylock ss nuts. >> >> Bob (palatka) >>  >>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:35 
> >>PM, The Rhodes 22  Email List < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>  >>wrote: >>> >>> Hello dear Rhodies -- My name is  Steve Alm ("Slim") 
> >>and I live in >>> Minneapolis, MN  and also in Menomonie, WI. I was 
> >>an active list user  >>> for quite a few years back before many of us 
>  >>migrated to Facebook. >>> I've had >> my >>>  R22 for about 17 years 
> >>and it needs some attention.
>  >>The centerboard >> control >>> line is getting frayed  where it 
> >>always meets the cleat when all the >>> way  >> up >>> so I want to 
> >>replace it before it  breaks and I'd have no way to >>> raise >> it. 
>  >>I >>> guess then I'd have a fixed keel boat, No? >>>  >>> I've 
> >>emailed Stan for a trunk gasket and  possibly the line itself. I >> 
> >>don't >>> know  exactly what kind of line this is. It's stiffer than 
> >>the  stuff >>> I see at West Marine so I don't really know what to  
> >>ask for, or if >>> it's even critical. >>>  >>> Have any of y'all 
> >>ever done this? I'd love some  advice or tips on >>> the procedure. 
> >>For instance,  when you put all the trunk screws back >>> in, do >> 
>  >>you >>> need to use a torque wrench to get them all the same?  Gasket 
> >>sealer >>> brand/type? >>>  >>> Thanks in advance for any 
> >>suggestions.  >>> Slim >>> SV Fandango >>> >>>> On  Tue, Sep 22, 2015 
> >>at 12:10 PM, Rod Ellner  <rodellner at icloud.com> >>
> >>wrote: >>>>  >>>> Hi List! >>>> >>>> This is from Mary  (Rod’s 
> >>wife).  I am sending this, as Slim (Steven  >> Alm) >>>> has a Rhodes 
> >>22 issue…â….and  he has been “off da list” for >>>> 
>  >>awhile……(and Rummy the Rhodes Guru is no longer with us!))  >>>> 
> >>>>>> Take him “under
>  >>your wings”!      Thank You! >>>>  >>>> Mary
> >>Ellner >>>> s/v Toy Blew  >>>> St Croix River/WI >>>>>> On Sep 22,  
> >>2015, at 10:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <  >>>>> 
> >>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:  >>>>> >>>>> General Boats is 
>  >>listed online in the Exhibitors list, but the >>>>>  Rhodes >> 22 
> >>>>>> is >>>>>  not listed in the boat list. Maybe Stan is just 
> >>bringing  groceries >> from >>>> his >>>>> new  business. >>>>> >>>>> 
> >>Bob  >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>  >>>>> ----- >>>>> Bob Weiss >>>>>  Beach Spring 
> >>>>>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in  2014 >>>>> -- >>>>> View this 
>  >>message in context: >>>> 
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