[Rhodes22-list] Installing tiller lock box in cockpit coming

[The Hechts]

Thanks Bruce. I considered that but I don't think mine would work even reversed. I think the clip on the side rail will actually work but I just can't figure out what would make the geometry so different from the boat we rented from Stan a year ago, which was just a few years older than Fretless.   Unless the shape of the tiller itself or the design of the tiller/rudder interface changed, I can't think of what would allow it to work at a nearly horizontal angle on one not and not another...

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Bruce Greenwald <bgreenwald at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> Olivier,
> 
> I had a similar problem with the lockbox on my new in 2014 boat.  The box just wouldn’t accommodate the angle although, curiously, the downward tiller angle differed depending on how it was rotated.  In any event, I pretty much solved the problem by simply turning the box upside down (so the small diameter is on top). I don’t know how yours is currently installed but the screw holes are symmetrical and so reversing the installation took all of five minutes and, as I said, made a big difference.
> 
> Bruce Greenwald
> S/V Ruach
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Olivier,
>> The original clips for the tiller on Fretless were (I assume) hand made by GB out of some sort of high density plastic to fit the diameter of that particular tiller extension. When they broke (sun exposure I think) we installed the closest clip we could find. It didn't fit exactly (as you know) so we wrapped the end of the tiller extension with rigging tape until it did. Here's a pic of Fred with Fretless sailing herself. You can see the rigging tape on the extension.
>> 
>> Good luck with finding a solution.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 
>> At 04:05 PM 8/1/2016, you wrote:
>>> I'm trying to improve the tiller lock options for short times away from the tiller. Fretless has the clip on the side rail but I've found it doesn't hold that well. I've got it working for now but also wanted to try installing the lockbox in the cockpit coming as I've used on other boats.
>>> 
>>> I bought the Forespar lockbox from West Marine and took it out to the boat yesterday for test fitting. The problem is that, anywhere I could mount the lock box in the coming will put the tiller extension at a very extreme downward angle from the tiller to the lockbox. Far too much of an angle to allow the tiller to be adjusted if it would even lock at all. I'm sorry I didn't take pictures but the closest angle I could get has to be more than 30 degrees below horizontal...it was not even close.
>>> 
>>> I know using a lockbox should work as I've seen it (and used it) on other Rhodes 22s. In case it matters, my tiller extension mounts on top of the tiller. I've considered whether moving it to the bottom of the tiller would help, but even that wouldn't get the extension near horizontal and I'm sure that would make using the extension elsewhere around the cockpit impossible. I checked and the tiller was all the way "down" (perpendicular to the rudder post). I'm struggling to understand what could be different about the basic geometry of my cockpit sides, tiller and tiller extension that makes it seem impossible to use this lockbox.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Olivier
>>> s/v Fretless
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