[Rhodes22-list] Tiller/motor connection pics?

Joseph Doucet jadoucet at snet.net
Tue Jul 19 09:40:25 EDT 2016


This has been a good discussion on how to manage a R22 in crowded harbors using a gasoline outboard. A lot of good suggestions 

My solution is to use an electric motor.  It gives one much better control at low speeds with the speed / direction controls on the motor handle. Most motors have a handle extension built in. I stand with the tiller in one hand and the motor handle in the other.  I use a bank of light weight  lithium batteries that I either charge at the dock overnight or use a 50w solar charger when at anchor.

Advantages:
No noise
No gasoline smell
Can motor sail if necessary

Disadvantage :
More limited range
Less power at high speeds

Recycled 2004
Joe-the-elder in Connecticut

> On Jul 19, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What's even more impressive is sailing into your moorings with no motor!
> Make sure you have the sacrificial wife on the fore-deck to fend off...
> 
> 
> 
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>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Lance Horne <lastmango68 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary Lou has it. The only thing I can add is that prop walk and spring
>> lines can also help. Find a place away from other boats. Practice, practice
>> circles and figure 8’s forward and reverse at changing speeds; change
>> directions and do the same. Practice stopping upwind, downwind, crosswind,
>> and with various current positions. Your hand will automatically become a
>> part of the motor, throttling up and down, neutral, forward,neutral,
>> reverse. Before you know it the other boaters will be envious of your
>> skills. Docking and undocking can actually be fun. If I can do it you can
>> also.    Last Mango
>>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Mary Lou, and I'm glad you and Fred are back home with Tara after
>> what sounds like an epic trip!
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>> 
>>>> Just back from NC with Tara (12 days from Oriental to RH, 341 nm,
>> marina-hopping all the way because of the heat) and saw your question.
>> Can't help with the rudder-tiller connection as we never did it but can
>> talk about operating in a marina.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is what we discovered about maneuvering in tight spaces. Note that
>> there were always two of us, often including me on the bow with the
>> boathook. Part of the issue is the high-thrust Yamaha engine. That big prop
>> is great for moving through choppy water but not as good as our old Honda
>> for maneuvering in tight spaces or in reverse. Fred found that short bursts
>> of power were more effective than slow and steady - in other words, a burst
>> of power to get the boat moving and then back to neutral while you steer
>> with the rudder. Easy to do with the cockpit controls but it took a lot of
>> practice and finesse to get the proper amounts of throttle and neutral and
>> to make the turns with the tiller at the right moment or the right amount.
>> The motor is off the center line so backing in one direction is different
>> than backing in the other with the prop turning. The short bursts of power
>> get the boat moving but allow the rudder to do the steering.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this is helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 05:45 AM 7/18/2016, you wrote:
>>>>> Hello. Sailing Fretless is great but any docking or other slow speed
>> maneuvers under power, especially in reverse, is proving terribly
>> ineffective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I reached out to Stan but I guess the installation involves some
>> custom work and I'd like to get a solution before I have a chance to let
>> him have the boat for a while.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone have some good close up pictures of the mechanism and/or
>> part numbers?  Or other solutions that have worked?  The motor is a Yamaha
>> 8hp 4-stoke in case that matters.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>> s/v Fretless
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