[Rhodes22-list] Tiller/motor connection pics?

Tue Jul 19 13:45:27 EDT 2016

I purchased most of the components some time ago.
Salt water , long shaft electric with at least 100 lbs of thrust was about $800
LiPo batteries 3 x 12 V at 40 amp hrs were $240 each
10 amp 12v LiPo charger ~$60

Solar charging components were ~ $200

Recycled 2004
Joe

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> On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Joe
> What kind of initial cost was involved???? This solution sounds very interesting 
> 
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> Charles 
> s/v Daydream
> 98 R 22
> Joe Pool Lake; Dallas, TX
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Joseph Doucet <jadoucet at snet.net> wrote:
>> 
>> This has been a good discussion on how to manage a R22 in crowded harbors using a gasoline outboard. A lot of good suggestions 
>> 
>> My solution is to use an electric motor.  It gives one much better control at low speeds with the speed / direction controls on the motor handle. Most motors have a handle extension built in. I stand with the tiller in one hand and the motor handle in the other.  I use a bank of light weight  lithium batteries that I either charge at the dock overnight or use a 50w solar charger when at anchor.
>> 
>> Advantages:
>> No noise
>> No gasoline smell
>> Can motor sail if necessary
>> 
>> Disadvantage :
>> More limited range
>> Less power at high speeds
>> 
>> Recycled 2004
>> Joe-the-elder in Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's even more impressive is sailing into your moorings with no motor!
>>> Make sure you have the sacrificial wife on the fore-deck to fend off...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>> 
>>> Richard Beytagh
>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Lance Horne <lastmango68 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Lou has it. The only thing I can add is that prop walk and spring
>>>> lines can also help. Find a place away from other boats. Practice, practice
>>>> circles and figure 8’s forward and reverse at changing speeds; change
>>>> directions and do the same. Practice stopping upwind, downwind, crosswind,
>>>> and with various current positions. Your hand will automatically become a
>>>> part of the motor, throttling up and down, neutral, forward,neutral,
>>>> reverse. Before you know it the other boaters will be envious of your
>>>> skills. Docking and undocking can actually be fun. If I can do it you can
>>>> also.    Last Mango
>>>>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Mary Lou, and I'm glad you and Fred are back home with Tara after
>>>> what sounds like an epic trip!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just back from NC with Tara (12 days from Oriental to RH, 341 nm,
>>>> marina-hopping all the way because of the heat) and saw your question.
>>>> Can't help with the rudder-tiller connection as we never did it but can
>>>> talk about operating in a marina.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is what we discovered about maneuvering in tight spaces. Note that
>>>> there were always two of us, often including me on the bow with the
>>>> boathook. Part of the issue is the high-thrust Yamaha engine. That big prop
>>>> is great for moving through choppy water but not as good as our old Honda
>>>> for maneuvering in tight spaces or in reverse. Fred found that short bursts
>>>> of power were more effective than slow and steady - in other words, a burst
>>>> of power to get the boat moving and then back to neutral while you steer
>>>> with the rudder. Easy to do with the cockpit controls but it took a lot of
>>>> practice and finesse to get the proper amounts of throttle and neutral and
>>>> to make the turns with the tiller at the right moment or the right amount.
>>>> The motor is off the center line so backing in one direction is different
>>>> than backing in the other with the prop turning. The short bursts of power
>>>> get the boat moving but allow the rudder to do the steering.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this is helpful.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 05:45 AM 7/18/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello. Sailing Fretless is great but any docking or other slow speed
>>>> maneuvers under power, especially in reverse, is proving terribly
>>>> ineffective.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I reached out to Stan but I guess the installation involves some
>>>> custom work and I'd like to get a solution before I have a chance to let
>>>> him have the boat for a while.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does anyone have some good close up pictures of the mechanism and/or
>>>> part numbers?  Or other solutions that have worked?  The motor is a Yamaha
>>>> 8hp 4-stoke in case that matters.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>> s/v Fretless
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