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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3982, Issue 1
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Re:
Launching into lake Erie
Sandusky downt o wn municipal ramps into sandusky bay.
This bay is 4 miles wide and 15 miles long
...a great place to play
Steve...419 366 9011


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Elton (Chris Geankoplis)
   2. Re: My Elton Memory (Chris Geankoplis)
   3. Re: Swing keel help (Graham Stewart)
   4. elton (Stan Spitzer)
   5. Re: elton (Richard Stott)
   6. Back Home Safe and Sound (Peter Nyberg)
   7. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Joseph Doucet)
   8. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Theodore Boender)
   9. Sandusky (Alexander Cole)
  10. Re: elton (Rhodes22)
  11. Re: elton (Lance Horne)
  12. Re: elton (Geoff Farrell)
  13. Re: elton (Frank Goldsmith)
  14. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (David Bradley)
  15. Re: elton (Richard Beytagh)
  16. Re: elton (Ronald Lipton)
  17. Re: elton (Michael Corley)
  18. Back Home Safe and Sound (Peter Nyberg)
  19. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Graham Stewart)
  20. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Geoff Farrell)
  21. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Rick)
  22. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Bruce Mackey)
  23. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Melvyn Rothbard)
  24. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Peter Nyberg)
  25. Test (Benjamin Cittadino)
  26. Test II (Benjamin Cittadino)
  27. Re: Test II (Peter Nyberg)
  28. Elton (Benjamin Cittadino)
  29. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Bruce Mackey)
  30. Re: Test (Todd Tavares)
  31. Re: Back Home Safe and Sound (Chris Cowie)
  32. Re: elton (ALICE WEISZ)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 08:14:30 -0400
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elton
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What a positive legacy, and this is just a tiny tip of the iceberg. It is
not that he delivered boats it is that he affected so many in such a
positive way.  Thank you Elton.
Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Condolences to Stan and Family.
>
> I met Elton when he dropped off our bimini enroute making a boat delivery
> somewhere in the Great Lakes region.  We call the bimini The Elton.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > When I arrived at the GB plant in Edenton this morning, I was informed
> > that Stan had just left to attend the funeral of his brother, Elton.
> >
> > I only knew of Elton from reading the archives of this list, but I know
> he
> > was liked and admired by many on the list who had the privilege of
> meeting
> > him.
> >
> > Stan's crew was on hand to familiarize me with my new (recycled) boat,
> and
> > complete the purchase, but more about that later.
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 08:17:52 -0400
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>,  The Rhodes 22 Email List
        <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My Elton Memory
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Well said Joe

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

>     When Elton, all by himself, delivered my boat in August it was nearly
> 100 degrees in North Carolina. He was three hours late, and when I called
> Stan to find out where the errant Elton may be, he simply didn't know.  He
> told me that for nine dollars, I could keep him.  I tried to bargain, but
> Stan was firm.
>      I was a youngster at 56, and Elton ran circles around me.  He drank
> no water, though we pleaded with him. And he did fine.  God forbid that he
> had to go back to the truck to get something, because he took teeny-weeny
> Artie Johnson ("Laugh-in") steps, and we could have taken productive naps
> waiting for him to return with the needed piece.
>
>      In the end, he performed flawlessly (aside from backing up the
> trailer to launch) and we splashed with success.  When all was done, I
> tipped him large and sent him back to Edenton (hoping that he would find it
> again, and expecting a message from Stan demanding the nine dollars). We
> still tell the Elton stories today.So, I suppose (as they say) thinking
> about the dead keeps hem alive.  Tomorrow is the 400th anniversary of
> William Shakespeare's death.  I wonder if he's waiting for Elton to arrive.
>
>      Based on my experience, Will Shakespeare may have a long wait.
>      Goodbye Elton, and all of my love to those who are missing you.
>
> Joe Camp
> s/v John Dawson
> Bohemia River, MD
>
>
>
>       From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
>  To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 5:05 PM
>  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton
>
> When I arrived at the GB plant in Edenton this morning, I was informed
> that Stan had just left to attend the funeral of his brother, Elton.
>
> I only knew of Elton from reading the archives of this list, but I know he
> was liked and admired by many on the list who had the privilege of meeting
> him.
>
> Stan's crew was on hand to familiarize me with my new (recycled) boat, and
> complete the purchase, but more about that later.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:05:50 -0400
From: "Graham Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing keel help
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Hi Lou:

I have just re-read your great description of the repairs that you made to
the centerboard housing sides. I have a suggestion for others who might be
tempted such a repair as well as a question for you.

The suggestion:

As your description implies, measurement of the slot is a devilish difficult
problem to solve so I thought I would share how I eventually addressed this
problem. As you know, the slot is not just a symmetrical rectangular hole.
It is tapered along its length and height and this makes it difficult to
measure. Also, just measuring the width of the hole doesn't necessarily tell
you which side of the hole the problem is on. Measuring from the centerline
was a challenge I could not overcome. Also, lugging the board in and out of
the boat repeatedly and lifting it into the slot to check for points of
friction was exhausting - especially for an old guy like me.

As it turned out the solution to both problems was to make from a strip of
plywood a piece that has the shape and dimensions of the midsection and
widest part of the centerboard along its length. I put a cross pin at the
pivot point so the piece could be lowered and raised with a string like the
centerboard. By making this template in my shop I could be sure the sides
were symmetrical around the centreline and thereby tell, when placed in the
slot,  which side of the hole had insufficient clearance. That at least gave
me a good idea of where the trouble spots were which I could then check with
the actual centreboard. If anyone would like a picture of my template just
let me know. To measure the thickness of the centerboard at its thickest
point I made extended calipers very similarly those shown in Lou's
description. I thought I was brilliant at the time but now realized that the
idea came from Lou. So much for genius.

The question:

I am wondering why you went the route of using G20 panels as patches -
whatever G20 is. Why did you not gradually fill the voids in the sides with
layers of thickened epoxy ultimately covered by a few layers of cloth?
Fitting patches for such an inaccessible space seems daunting to say the
least and I worry about any unfilled gaps that might be hidden between the
patch and the concrete.

One other point, when I was examining my keel I came to realize that there
were substantial voids within the keel itself. The voids were not at the
surface but extended right into the core. I have no idea whether they were
there from the start of reflected erosion through the cracks in the bottom
of the keel mentioned above. I drilled multiple holes through the outside of
the keel and down into the keel through the cabin sole. I then injected
almost three GALLONS of


I don't know if I need to go the full route that you followed - I hope not -
but I seem to have some of the same symptoms. I had had no trouble removing
the board in the first place making me think that the sidewalls were still
in place. I had large cracks at the very bottom of the hole where the sides
of the cavity and the bottom of the keel join. The boat had been on shore
for about 4 years when I understood to dig out and then fill the cracks with
epoxy and cover the area in several layers of cloth. I "thought" the
clearances were sufficient by making what were crude and totally inadequate
measurements. When I reinstalled the board the gap was insufficient. As the
comment above makes clear, measuring is far more complicated that one might
think at first.

I have ground out the marrow places primarily by using a 1 1/2" rotary
sanding drum on the end of a 2' bit extender and powered by my electric
hammer drill. I now need to again repair that area without simply making the
gap too small again. I do NOT want to have to do this a third time. That
might be the straw that.....


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada





-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Lou Rosenberg
Sent: April 19, 2016 11:03 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing keel help

I just want to chime in w my info on my 81 c/b restoration job.
I posted the entire job on the Rhodes22 OWNERS site.  Its readable as a pdf
file w illustrations.  Roger Pihlaja helped me write the text especially the
parts about the chemistry of cement and how it can impede the board travel
if the trunk swells like mine did.

http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/r22boardtrunk.pdf

I would second all the remarks about getting the boat on stands.  No serious
repairs can be made to the trunk, CB when on the trailer.

feel free to ask questions no matter how mundane they may seem.  This is a
tough job. IT took me a full year to restore mine but its been worth it!

My 81 sails upwind nicely w the board 3/4 down!
Lou
sv Miracles
on the hard in Mill Basin, Brooklyn



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 07:50:31 -0400
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] elton
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thanks for the memories and comments.

my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel
of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made
a mistake.

ss


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 07:59:59 -0400
From: Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
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My thoughts and prayers are with you Stan.
I too lost my younger sibling the pain seems unbearable, and the beat goes on.
Ric
s/v Dadventure
Hampton Bays, NY

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks for the memories and comments.
>
> my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made a mistake.
>
> ss
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ric at stottarchitecture.com






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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:45:24 -0400
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <813D33A1-1323-49E4-A119-807D8BDB2527 at sunnybeeches.com>
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Kim and I took two days to make the trip from Edenton back home to Connecticut via the inland route (interstates 95, 64, 81, and 84), avoiding the major metropolitan areas.  There were no major events.  The new dual axle trailer towed well, though it would sometimes fishtail a bit if I pushed the speed much above 65 mph.

The boat is currently sitting in my driveway.  I need to get it registered before I can put it on the mooring in Groton.  While I have it close to hand, I?ll try to get it at least minimally provisioned, and see if there are any modifications or enhancements I want to make.  Nothing major at this point, I?m sure.

For the past couple of years, I?ve been making videos of my backpacking trips and posting them on YouTube. I enjoy the process, so I?m sure I?ll be doing some boat related videos in the not too distant future.  I?ll let you know when that happens, but I?ll warn you in advance that I?m not afraid to make them long.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:48:16 -0400
From: Joseph Doucet <jadoucet at snet.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
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Bon voyage

Joe R22 RIDGEFIELD ct

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>
> Kim and I took two days to make the trip from Edenton back home to Connecticut via the inland route (interstates 95, 64, 81, and 84), avoiding the major metropolitan areas.  There were no major events.  The new dual axle trailer towed well, though it would sometimes fishtail a bit if I pushed the speed much above 65 mph.
>
> The boat is currently sitting in my driveway.  I need to get it registered before I can put it on the mooring in Groton.  While I have it close to hand, I?ll try to get it at least minimally provisioned, and see if there are any modifications or enhancements I want to make.  Nothing major at this point, I?m sure.
>
> For the past couple of years, I?ve been making videos of my backpacking trips and posting them on YouTube. I enjoy the process, so I?m sure I?ll be doing some boat related videos in the not too distant future.  I?ll let you know when that happens, but I?ll warn you in advance that I?m not afraid to make them long.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:10:54 -0400
From: Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
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Peter, love You Tube. Can't wait. Send a link to your channel when ready.

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>
> Kim and I took two days to make the trip from Edenton back home to Connecticut via the inland route (interstates 95, 64, 81, and 84), avoiding the major metropolitan areas.  There were no major events.  The new dual axle trailer towed well, though it would sometimes fishtail a bit if I pushed the speed much above 65 mph.
>
> The boat is currently sitting in my driveway.  I need to get it registered before I can put it on the mooring in Groton.  While I have it close to hand, I?ll try to get it at least minimally provisioned, and see if there are any modifications or enhancements I want to make.  Nothing major at this point, I?m sure.
>
> For the past couple of years, I?ve been making videos of my backpacking trips and posting them on YouTube. I enjoy the process, so I?m sure I?ll be doing some boat related videos in the not too distant future.  I?ll let you know when that happens, but I?ll warn you in advance that I?m not afraid to make them long.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:22:13 +0000
From: Alexander Cole <colealexander at hotmail.com>
To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sandusky
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Jerry, or others with Lake Erie launching experience:   My Kentucky Lake trip may be changed by T storms!!!   Time is blocked off the schedule, its too late to change dates now.   The boat is back on the hard, and loaded.   OK weather to drive / rig Friday and Monday, but T storms are predicted all weekend.     If its just rainy or scattered storms I'll hang by the marina and not travel much of the lake, but if its all day I'm kind of stuck.  I was looking at Sandusky bay as semi protected water for a backup destination (inland canoeing in Indiana between storms and a hotel as plan D for desperation).    Looking at google, I found East Harbor State Park's West harbor marina as a launch site, but that puts me directly into the lake proper.   Is there a good launch facility or marina in the bay itself that anybody has experience with?   I'm wiling to pay for a lift if needed.   The water will be COLD and I am not an expert heavy water sailor (more experience in a canoe with big
  waves to be honest).    Its hard to get time off, I'm desperately trying to salvage the 'vacation'.    I'm also looking to protect both Tamiko and the new boat.   I'm not eager to drive through Cleveland until I get a better feel for this mighty beast on a trailer.  Its now further forward, so the tongue weight is safer.  It seemed steady up to 60-65 mph, which may be about right for a heavy high boat behind an explorer?    But if the alternative is sitting at home, I'm open to other ideas for a three nights on the water, preferably with marina / restaurant options.    Somebody (I forget who) had plugged Cleveland Harbor behind the wall, so I'll watch their weather too.   Where did you launch? Alex ColeLark

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:22:21 -0400
From: Rhodes22 <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
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Stan:  I also believe "someone made a mistake" in February when we lost my older brother George one day shy of his 79th birthday to a fellow who should not have been driving.

As you know most of us on the list knew and loved the time we got to spend with your wonderful brother, Elton.  He was sincere, entertaining, extremely helpful, humble,.. I could go on for days.

My youngest brother (69) knowing that I was really stunned by losing George, as we were so close, gave me this wisdom:  "It is said that the souls of those we love become part of our souls forever."  May this give you some comfort!

Bob and Kathy

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks for the memories and comments.
>
> my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made a mistake.
>
> ss
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:39:02 -0400
From: Lance Horne <lastmango68 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
Message-ID: <E77EA425-5F14-4CB5-9311-40CB08B6DBBF at gmail.com>
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Strength and comfort are my prayers for you. It is very difficult to say good bye to someone very close. I?ve been there and feel your pain. But, the good bye is not forever. Trust me, I know.      fr lance+
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks for the memories and comments.
>
> my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made a mistake.
>
> ss
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:52:04 -0500
From: Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
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Stan: My prayers and thoughts are with you. I still have my four brothers
and can't imagine the pain of losing one. Geoff

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Lance Horne <lastmango68 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Strength and comfort are my prayers for you. It is very difficult to say
> good bye to someone very close. I?ve been there and feel your pain. But,
> the good bye is not forever. Trust me, I know.      fr lance+
> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > thanks for the memories and comments.
> >
> > my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel
> of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made a
> mistake.
> >
> > ss
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:22:46 -0400
From: Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
Message-ID: <E1DED9C7-2ECE-4FBD-8141-99E9F2788102 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

My sympathies to you, Stan. I have one brother, thankfully still with us, and can only imagine how painful is the loss.

Baruch dayan ha-emet.

Frank


> On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>
> thanks for the memories and comments.
>
> my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made a mistake.
>
> ss
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 07:20:00 -0400
From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <8A8363A0-0CD7-405E-964E-3950E2A450E1 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hello Joe.  I didn?t know we had a Rhodie from Ridgefield on the list.  I commute TO Ridgefield most days as everyone in town goes the other way.  Where do you keep your boat?  We?re in Greenwich Cove on a town mooring.

Dave B

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Joseph Doucet <jadoucet at snet.net> wrote:
>
> Bon voyage
>
> Joe R22 RIDGEFIELD ct
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kim and I took two days to make the trip from Edenton back home to Connecticut via the inland route (interstates 95, 64, 81, and 84), avoiding the major metropolitan areas.  There were no major events.  The new dual axle trailer towed well, though it would sometimes fishtail a bit if I pushed the speed much above 65 mph.
>>
>> The boat is currently sitting in my driveway.  I need to get it registered before I can put it on the mooring in Groton.  While I have it close to hand, I?ll try to get it at least minimally provisioned, and see if there are any modifications or enhancements I want to make.  Nothing major at this point, I?m sure.
>>
>> For the past couple of years, I?ve been making videos of my backpacking trips and posting them on YouTube. I enjoy the process, so I?m sure I?ll be doing some boat related videos in the not too distant future.  I?ll let you know when that happens, but I?ll warn you in advance that I?m not afraid to make them long.
>>
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 09:24:29 -0400
From: Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
Message-ID:
        <CALbDJ9bw-XVC9Drmwt3iorNx5=OcNCYnt2TTJo_WQmbHqYG7kg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

My sincerest condolences to you and the family for the loss of your
brother.

Sadly I never met Elton, but having followed in his foot-steps a little on
my various deliveries, I've met Rhodies who knew him and heard the fond
stories and memories of their time together.

My we all have lives as full and interesting as Elton's



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My sympathies to you, Stan. I have one brother, thankfully still with us,
> and can only imagine how painful is the loss.
>
> Baruch dayan ha-emet.
>
> Frank
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > thanks for the memories and comments.
> >
> > my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel
> of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made a
> mistake.
> >
> > ss
> > __________________________________________________
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> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 12:05:23 -0500
From: Ronald Lipton <lipton at fnal.gov>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
Message-ID: <571F9FD3.3090702 at fnal.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed

Stan,

My heartfelt condolences on your loss.  It was always a pleasure to see
Elton at
the Chicago boat show and sit, talk and try to sell boats.  I was there the
time he hit the black ice on I95, but persevered and got the boat to
Chicago.
It did need some cleaning up...

He talked to me about his time in radio in Chicago but I never knew
about his
impact on radio in New York until I saw the obituary in the New York Times.
It is clear from the article that Elton built a institution that was
much loved
in the New York area.  I wish I had a chance to talk to him about the music.



Ron



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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:59:08 -0400
From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
Message-ID:
        <CACSd1jLVpQ-q8u9Rxo2H0jQT+WiYr8gJLEtf7bgKXGuqVx1Z7w at mail.gmail.com>
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Stan,

Our thoughts and prayers are with you.  Elton was a very good person in
every way.  I remember when he delivered my first Rhodes back in 96.
Patiently answered all my questions and would not leave till he was sure I
was comfortable sailing the Rhodes on my own.

Mike & Solveigh Corley
s/v Ranger
Hampton Roads

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Ronald Lipton <lipton at fnal.gov> wrote:

> Stan,
>
> My heartfelt condolences on your loss.  It was always a pleasure to see
> Elton at
> the Chicago boat show and sit, talk and try to sell boats.  I was there the
> time he hit the black ice on I95, but persevered and got the boat to
> Chicago.
> It did need some cleaning up...
>
> He talked to me about his time in radio in Chicago but I never knew about
> his
> impact on radio in New York until I saw the obituary in the New York Times.
> It is clear from the article that Elton built a institution that was much
> loved
> in the New York area.  I wish I had a chance to talk to him about the
> music.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 15:33:33 -0400
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <1ED3F50A-00CA-4539-B896-93527C2356D1 at sunnybeeches.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

I?ve put up a video of our adventure up on YouTube.  Hopefully, the following link will take you there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s>

Just to set expectations, the video is 15 1/2 minutes long, and it?s just about the trip and the new owner orientation in Edenton.  There?s very little about the boat itself, and there?s absolutely no sailing.  I?ve still never sailed on a Rhodes 22.

I?ll look into putting this up on the Facebook group page as well.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 15:59:41 -0400
From: "Graham Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <000601d19ff6$2c31fde0$8495f9a0$@ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"

Peter:
 Nice boat! I am so jealousy to have a boat that is perfectly ready to go. I look forward to your video tour of the boat.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: April 26, 2016 3:34 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound

I?ve put up a video of our adventure up on YouTube.  Hopefully, the following link will take you there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s>

Just to set expectations, the video is 15 1/2 minutes long, and it?s just about the trip and the new owner orientation in Edenton.  There?s very little about the boat itself, and there?s absolutely no sailing.  I?ve still never sailed on a Rhodes 22.

I?ll look into putting this up on the Facebook group page as well.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 15:09:13 -0500
From: Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID:
        <CADg3KzmCT5vMFDOKVeyVc6CX=BfqFi-ChCwXVRTgMjeuAy_pCw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Enjoyed it, thanks. Takes me back. Geoff

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
wrote:

> I?ve put up a video of our adventure up on YouTube.  Hopefully, the
> following link will take you there:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s>
>
> Just to set expectations, the video is 15 1/2 minutes long, and it?s just
> about the trip and the new owner orientation in Edenton.  There?s very
> little about the boat itself, and there?s absolutely no sailing.  I?ve
> still never sailed on a Rhodes 22.
>
> I?ll look into putting this up on the Facebook group page as well.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:21:53 -0400
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID:
        <CABkv36YPrvDJqp2KYsHVtPSYDk5vDSRuBr-tqXqkCgy7fKC1WQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Nice job, Peter.

Rick

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Peter:
>  Nice boat! I am so jealousy to have a boat that is perfectly ready to go.
> I look forward to your video tour of the boat.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Peter Nyberg
> Sent: April 26, 2016 3:34 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
>
> I?ve put up a video of our adventure up on YouTube.  Hopefully, the
> following link will take you there:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s>
>
> Just to set expectations, the video is 15 1/2 minutes long, and it?s just
> about the trip and the new owner orientation in Edenton.  There?s very
> little about the boat itself, and there?s absolutely no sailing.  I?ve
> still never sailed on a Rhodes 22.
>
> I?ll look into putting this up on the Facebook group page as well.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 07:04:29 -0400
From: "Bruce Mackey" <bmackey at charter.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <00f201d1a074$91df8350$b59e89f0$@charter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"

Peter (or anyone),

I'm curious.  What is the little "crank" on the end of the boom for?  Is that some feature Stan has added since my '88 model?

Bruce
s/v Tuxedo
Traverse City, MI

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 3:34 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound

I?ve put up a video of our adventure up on YouTube.  Hopefully, the following link will take you there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s>

Just to set expectations, the video is 15 1/2 minutes long, and it?s just about the trip and the new owner orientation in Edenton.  There?s very little about the boat itself, and there?s absolutely no sailing.  I?ve still never sailed on a Rhodes 22.

I?ll look into putting this up on the Facebook group page as well.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:01:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Melvyn Rothbard <melrothbard at yahoo.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Peter:I really enjoyed your video and am looking forward to the next one.
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    On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:04 AM, Bruce Mackey <bmackey at charter.net> wrote:


 Peter (or anyone),

I'm curious.? What is the little "crank" on the end of the boom for?? Is that some feature Stan has added since my '88 model?

Bruce
s/v Tuxedo
Traverse City, MI

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 3:34 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound

I?ve put up a video of our adventure up on YouTube.? Hopefully, the following link will take you there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZsJwUy60s>

Just to set expectations, the video is 15 1/2 minutes long, and it?s just about the trip and the new owner orientation in Edenton.? There?s very little about the boat itself, and there?s absolutely no sailing.? I?ve still never sailed on a Rhodes 22.

I?ll look into putting this up on the Facebook group page as well.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 15:52:35 -0400
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <194DEBD1-9467-4E71-BF6B-345C961C8EE3 at sunnybeeches.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Bruce,

I?m not sure what you saw, there?s no ?crank? on the boom.  There are two tangs (I think that?s the right word) on the end.  One is for the upper block of the main sheet, the other is for the topping lift.  That?s my best guess as to what you might have seen

Peter
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (88/16)

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:04 AM, Bruce Mackey <bmackey at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Peter (or anyone),
>
> I'm curious.  What is the little "crank" on the end of the boom for?  Is that some feature Stan has added since my '88 model?
>
> Bruce
> s/v Tuxedo
> Traverse City, MI
>



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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:16:07 +0000
From: Benjamin Cittadino <BCittadino at dcs-law.com>
To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test
Message-ID:
        <E6B7E77D6B1EE74694228E37C352C00A9239E3DA at DCS2011.dcslaw.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I'm here. S/V Susan Kay is here. Testing how, if at all, my post will show up.

Ben Cittadino

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Of Counsel
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                             Bldg. 1-A, Ste. 202
             Trenton, NJ 08648

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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:19:15 +0000
From: Benjamin Cittadino <BCittadino at dcs-law.com>
To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test II
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Eliminated signature stuff?

Ben Cittadino


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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:21:08 -0400
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Test II
Message-ID: <90EA968A-1311-4D82-9A86-E788393CFF23 at sunnybeeches.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

That?s better.

Peter N

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Benjamin Cittadino <BCittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>
> Eliminated signature stuff?
>
> Ben Cittadino
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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:26:56 +0000
From: Benjamin Cittadino <BCittadino at dcs-law.com>
To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton
Message-ID:
        <E6B7E77D6B1EE74694228E37C352C00A9239E40B at DCS2011.dcslaw.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Stan and Mates;

I have found words that have been of some comfort to me in similar circumstances. Please allow me to share them:

"Even in our sleep, the pain which cannot forget, falls drop by drop upon the heart; until in our despair, and against our will comes Wisdom through the awful Grace of God." - Aeschylus

Be well Stan.

Your friend,

Ben Cittadino


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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:28:17 -0400
From: "Bruce Mackey" <bmackey at charter.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
Message-ID: <003401d1a0c3$54ea8ea0$febfabe0$@charter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"

Thanks Peter.  I must have been looking at it wrong.

The boats sure are pretty when they're new.  You've inspired me to give mine a heavy dose of elbow grease when the weather warms up a bit more.

Bruce
s/v Tuxedo
Traverse City, MI

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:53 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound

Bruce,

I?m not sure what you saw, there?s no ?crank? on the boom.  There are two tangs (I think that?s the right word) on the end.  One is for the upper block of the main sheet, the other is for the topping lift.  That?s my best guess as to what you might have seen

Peter
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (88/16)

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:04 AM, Bruce Mackey <bmackey at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Peter (or anyone),
>
> I'm curious.  What is the little "crank" on the end of the boom for?  Is that some feature Stan has added since my '88 model?
>
> Bruce
> s/v Tuxedo
> Traverse City, MI
>

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:00:15 +0200
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:39:24 -0700 (MST)
From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Back Home Safe and Sound
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Great video.  Thanks for sharing.  I have a new 2008 and a new trailer in
2015 and your video helps me prepare for my future trailer adventures.



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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:30:49 +0000
From: ALICE WEISZ <AMICW5 at msn.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] elton
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As has been repeated many times, we all have memories of Elton - good ones.  And stories.  What a wonderful legacy to have positively touched so many lives and brought joy to them.  Our loss must be the gain of others.
Alice


I am standing by the seashore
A ship at my side spreads her white sails to the morning breeze
and starts for the blue ocean.
She is an object of beauty and strength,
and I stand and watch
until at last she hangs like a speck of white cloud
just where the sun and sky come down to mingle with each other

Then someone at my side says: "There she goes!"
Gone where? Gone from my sight- that is all.

She is just as large in mast and hull and spar
as she was when she left my side
and just as able to bear her load of living freight
to the places of destination.
Her diminished size is in me, not in her.

And just at the moment when someone at my side says, "There she goes!",
there are other eyes watching her coming ,
and other voices ready to take up the the glad shout:
"Here she comes!".
                                                " A Parable of Immortality" by Henry Van Dyke



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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:50 AM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] elton

thanks for the memories and comments.

my only sibling and very painful.   as I dumped the traditional shovel
of dirt on my kid brother I could not help crying out that someone made
a mistake.

ss
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From sprocket80 at mail.com  Sun May  1 19:54:34 2016
From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 01:54:34 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test
In-Reply-To: <025e01d1a14e$d5e59910$81b0cb30$@ebsmed.com>
References: <trinity-914ffc19-ca05-45f5-b539-94ae42d8f57d-1461790815056@msvc-mesg-gmxus002>,
 <025e01d1a14e$d5e59910$81b0cb30$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <trinity-38d11098-d602-48bb-8928-5cc138d5c02b-1462146874040@3capp-mailcom-lxa12>



Michael,
This is a test sending reply as plain text.
?
Todd T.
?

Sent:?Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 9:06 AM
From:?"Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To:?"'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject:?Re: [Rhodes22-list] Test
Todd,

I have been trying to determine why the content of your posts is being
removed by the mailman list server. It appears that the problem may be
related to the fact that your mail.com based emails (owned by 1&1) are being
relayed through gmx (global mail exchange) in html format by your webmail
based email client without a plain text portion. Gmx, a free email service,
has been employed by spammers using html without a plain text portion to
hide their messages from detection. As a result, html messages from gmx are
being blocked by some providers.

Before replying to this email, can you change your mail.com setting to send
email in plain text and see if that solves the problem? To do so, log in to
your email and click on "settings" (located in the lower left navigation
portion of the page) and check the box next to "Always send e-mails as plain
text (without formatting)" and then click "Save" if you want text-only
e-mail to be your default.

If this works, at least I will know that I am on the right track.

Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
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Todd Tavares
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:00 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sun May  1 20:40:39 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 20:40:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test
In-Reply-To: <trinity-38d11098-d602-48bb-8928-5cc138d5c02b-1462146874040@3capp-mailcom-lxa12>
References: <trinity-914ffc19-ca05-45f5-b539-94ae42d8f57d-1461790815056@msvc-mesg-gmxus002>,
 <025e01d1a14e$d5e59910$81b0cb30$@ebsmed.com>
 <trinity-38d11098-d602-48bb-8928-5cc138d5c02b-1462146874040@3capp-mailcom-lxa12>
Message-ID: <00b201d1a40b$412d7a30$c3886e90$@com>

Todd,

It appears to work!

Mike
s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 7:55 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Test



Michael,
This is a test sending reply as plain text.
 
Todd T.
 

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 9:06 AM
From: "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Test
Todd,

I have been trying to determine why the content of your posts is being removed by the mailman list server. It appears that the problem may be related to the fact that your mail.com based emails (owned by 1&1) are being relayed through gmx (global mail exchange) in html format by your webmail based email client without a plain text portion. Gmx, a free email service, has been employed by spammers using html without a plain text portion to hide their messages from detection. As a result, html messages from gmx are being blocked by some providers.

Before replying to this email, can you change your mail.com setting to send email in plain text and see if that solves the problem? To do so, log in to your email and click on "settings" (located in the lower left navigation portion of the page) and check the box next to "Always send e-mails as plain text (without formatting)" and then click "Save" if you want text-only e-mail to be your default.

If this works, at least I will know that I am on the right track.

Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:00 PM
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From sprocket80 at mail.com  Sun May  1 20:48:35 2016
From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 02:48:35 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test
In-Reply-To: <00b201d1a40b$412d7a30$c3886e90$@com>
References: <trinity-914ffc19-ca05-45f5-b539-94ae42d8f57d-1461790815056@msvc-mesg-gmxus002>,
 <025e01d1a14e$d5e59910$81b0cb30$@ebsmed.com>
 <trinity-38d11098-d602-48bb-8928-5cc138d5c02b-1462146874040@3capp-mailcom-lxa12>,
 <00b201d1a40b$412d7a30$c3886e90$@com>
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From sprocket80 at mail.com  Sun May  1 20:49:42 2016
From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 02:49:42 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test
In-Reply-To: <trinity-85c7d076-768f-47d5-8624-8e7f6fa3db69-1462150114944@3capp-mailcom-lxa02>
References: <trinity-914ffc19-ca05-45f5-b539-94ae42d8f57d-1461790815056@msvc-mesg-gmxus002>,
 <025e01d1a14e$d5e59910$81b0cb30$@ebsmed.com>
 <trinity-38d11098-d602-48bb-8928-5cc138d5c02b-1462146874040@3capp-mailcom-lxa12>,
 <00b201d1a40b$412d7a30$c3886e90$@com>,
 <trinity-85c7d076-768f-47d5-8624-8e7f6fa3db69-1462150114944@3capp-mailcom-lxa02>
Message-ID: <trinity-f92b3c7d-674e-4e90-ae3e-87a6c455d644-1462150181619@3capp-mailcom-lxa02>

Thanks!

Todd T
?
?

Sent:?Sunday, May 01, 2016 at 8:48 PM
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From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Mon May  2 14:21:08 2016
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:21:08 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles
In-Reply-To: <CAFF53F9-9EE7-400A-894A-3CB71901E191@mac.com>
References: <0AC06FE7-5581-4769-9657-FB9372515673@sunnybeeches.com>
 <63049.24.140.30.102.1461963057.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>
 <CAFF53F9-9EE7-400A-894A-3CB71901E191@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have used D-rings and tape.  Easier to get on and off for adjustments.
As Chris mentioned you only need to cotter/secure one end of the turnbuckle.

Mike
S/V Ranger
Hampton Roads, VA

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:

> I have used the jam nut for the turnbuckles for years. Works great. Just
> ckc them once in a while, just like anything else.
> Rod
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:50 PM, cjlowe at sssnet.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > If you use nuts to lock the turnbuckle, one of the nuts on each
> turnbuckle
> > will have to have left handed threads. Meaning the nut turns counter
> > clockwise to thread onto the bolt.
> > I prefur to use cotter rings to lock the turnbuckles .  Think key rings,
> > only stainless steel and smaller.
> > You probably know this,but unless Your getting pounded by big wind or
> > wakes, you can remove any one turnbuckle at a time,safely.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> > I?ve got a question about the turnbuckles on my six shrouds.  Most of
> >> male or bolt-like pieces have holes in the ends of them, which I assume
> >> are intended to receive cotter pins or rings, which would keep the
> >> turnbuckle from turning.  But two of the bolts do not have holes in
> them.
> >> In one case it?s lower bolt, in the other it?s the upper bolt, the one
> >> attached to the wire.
> >>
> >> I don?t think I could remedy the situation by drilling holes in the
> >> bolts without them.  I?m thinking I could thread nuts onto the bolts
> >> above or below the body of the turnbuckle, and tighten them against the
> >> body to keep it from moving.
> >>
> >> Would this be an appropriate solution?
> >>
> >> I hope my description of the problem is good enough that a picture isn?t
> >> necessary, but I?ll attempt to attach one anyway, mostly as a test to
> >> see if it works.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Peter Nyberg
> >> Coventry, CT
> >> s/v Silverheels (88/16)
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
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> go
> >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >
> >
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>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon May  2 14:52:25 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:52:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles
In-Reply-To: <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0AC06FE7-5581-4769-9657-FB9372515673@sunnybeeches.com>
 <63049.24.140.30.102.1461963057.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>
 <CAFF53F9-9EE7-400A-894A-3CB71901E191@mac.com>
 <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002a01d1a4a3$c5fc3600$51f4a200$@com>

I think that you need to secure both ends as I have seen the stays twist themselves loose, especially the forestay (when the roller binds).  The potential damage if the furling jib were to come loose is significantly greater than the inconvenience of removing or replacing the ring.  Since my Rhodes is moored in the Nissequogue River and not in daily view, the loss of multiple stays could happen over a period of time or during a bad storm without my knowledge, setting the stage for a disaster.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Corley
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 2:21 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles

I have used D-rings and tape.  Easier to get on and off for adjustments.
As Chris mentioned you only need to cotter/secure one end of the turnbuckle.

Mike
S/V Ranger
Hampton Roads, VA

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:

> I have used the jam nut for the turnbuckles for years. Works great. 
> Just ckc them once in a while, just like anything else.
> Rod
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:50 PM, cjlowe at sssnet.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > If you use nuts to lock the turnbuckle, one of the nuts on each
> turnbuckle
> > will have to have left handed threads. Meaning the nut turns counter 
> > clockwise to thread onto the bolt.
> > I prefur to use cotter rings to lock the turnbuckles .  Think key 
> > rings, only stainless steel and smaller.
> > You probably know this,but unless Your getting pounded by big wind 
> > or wakes, you can remove any one turnbuckle at a time,safely.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> > I?ve got a question about the turnbuckles on my six shrouds.  Most 
> > of
> >> male or bolt-like pieces have holes in the ends of them, which I 
> >> assume are intended to receive cotter pins or rings, which would 
> >> keep the turnbuckle from turning.  But two of the bolts do not have 
> >> holes in
> them.
> >> In one case it?s lower bolt, in the other it?s the upper bolt, the 
> >> one attached to the wire.
> >>
> >> I don?t think I could remedy the situation by drilling holes in the 
> >> bolts without them.  I?m thinking I could thread nuts onto the 
> >> bolts above or below the body of the turnbuckle, and tighten them 
> >> against the body to keep it from moving.
> >>
> >> Would this be an appropriate solution?
> >>
> >> I hope my description of the problem is good enough that a picture 
> >> isn?t necessary, but I?ll attempt to attach one anyway, mostly as a 
> >> test to see if it works.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Peter Nyberg
> >> Coventry, CT
> >> s/v Silverheels (88/16)
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >> archives
> go
> >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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> > archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
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>
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From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Mon May  2 14:55:47 2016
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:55:47 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuP44YneGXB12sdthJ-GGWHfVj8xCRHxkUmoFTox0EvdVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0AC06FE7-5581-4769-9657-FB9372515673@sunnybeeches.com>
 <63049.24.140.30.102.1461963057.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>
 <CAFF53F9-9EE7-400A-894A-3CB71901E191@mac.com>
 <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzGxuNMFd6O4ECbwEa5nZtTJAp0iJ9bWjYEhChp5is1=_CReA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi :
SP2 scarpin 1/16 inch 8 pack from Annapolis Performance Sailing -
http://www.apsltd.com/sp2-scar-pin-1-16-quot-pin-8pk-gray.html does the
trick.
Easy to insert ,easy to remove and velcro strap  keeps it tight

Cheers,
Shawn
s / v Sweet Baboo ( recycled 86 )
On May 2, 2016 11:21 AM, "Michael Corley" <michael.4591 at gmail.com> wrote:

I have used D-rings and tape.  Easier to get on and off for adjustments.
As Chris mentioned you only need to cotter/secure one end of the turnbuckle.

Mike
S/V Ranger
Hampton Roads, VA

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:

> I have used the jam nut for the turnbuckles for years. Works great. Just
> ckc them once in a while, just like anything else.
> Rod
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:50 PM, cjlowe at sssnet.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > If you use nuts to lock the turnbuckle, one of the nuts on each
> turnbuckle
> > will have to have left handed threads. Meaning the nut turns counter
> > clockwise to thread onto the bolt.
> > I prefur to use cotter rings to lock the turnbuckles .  Think key rings,
> > only stainless steel and smaller.
> > You probably know this,but unless Your getting pounded by big wind or
> > wakes, you can remove any one turnbuckle at a time,safely.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> > I?ve got a question about the turnbuckles on my six shrouds.  Most of
> >> male or bolt-like pieces have holes in the ends of them, which I assume
> >> are intended to receive cotter pins or rings, which would keep the
> >> turnbuckle from turning.  But two of the bolts do not have holes in
> them.
> >> In one case it?s lower bolt, in the other it?s the upper bolt, the one
> >> attached to the wire.
> >>
> >> I don?t think I could remedy the situation by drilling holes in the
> >> bolts without them.  I?m thinking I could thread nuts onto the bolts
> >> above or below the body of the turnbuckle, and tighten them against the
> >> body to keep it from moving.
> >>
> >> Would this be an appropriate solution?
> >>
> >> I hope my description of the problem is good enough that a picture
isn?t
> >> necessary, but I?ll attempt to attach one anyway, mostly as a test to
> >> see if it works.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Peter Nyberg
> >> Coventry, CT
> >> s/v Silverheels (88/16)
> >>
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon May  2 15:05:36 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:05:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles
In-Reply-To: <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0AC06FE7-5581-4769-9657-FB9372515673@sunnybeeches.com>
 <63049.24.140.30.102.1461963057.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>
 <CAFF53F9-9EE7-400A-894A-3CB71901E191@mac.com>
 <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36bZg_NURZ0-fb3TQ5Qp8gTBBRjfdDOrrUyGJhu=yC0pMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I don't get the premise of securing only one end of the turnbuckle.  There
is no invisible hand that turns the turnbuckle loose.

It is the constantly varying tension on the twisted strands of the shroud
that turn the turnbuckle loose.  Securing only one end just makes the loose
end loosen twice as fast, which is worse than doing nothing at all.

Rick

From boendert at me.com  Mon May  2 17:59:47 2016
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 17:59:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36bZg_NURZ0-fb3TQ5Qp8gTBBRjfdDOrrUyGJhu=yC0pMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0AC06FE7-5581-4769-9657-FB9372515673@sunnybeeches.com>
 <63049.24.140.30.102.1461963057.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>
 <CAFF53F9-9EE7-400A-894A-3CB71901E191@mac.com>
 <CACSd1jKF-A5XBBMAxutMCGhK4+d0-stqd5rNZvoz97dhgEfvCQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36bZg_NURZ0-fb3TQ5Qp8gTBBRjfdDOrrUyGJhu=yC0pMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DBE837D7-6EFE-4620-8208-307528639439@me.com>

I use these wrap pins. They work well and are easy to adjust. 

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/c-sherman-johnson--wrap-pins-for-turnbuckles--P010071934

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER 
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On May 2, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't get the premise of securing only one end of the turnbuckle.  There
> is no invisible hand that turns the turnbuckle loose.
> 
> It is the constantly varying tension on the twisted strands of the shroud
> that turn the turnbuckle loose.  Securing only one end just makes the loose
> end loosen twice as fast, which is worse than doing nothing at all.
> 
> Rick
> __________________________________________________
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> 
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon May  2 21:05:50 2016
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:05:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
Message-ID: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>

I don?t think I?m going to get into the habit of making an announcement to the list every time I post a new Rhodes 22 related video on YouTube, but I did mention in the first video that I?d be doing a boat tour video, and several people said they?d like to see it, so here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZNQjSyKD-g <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZNQjSyKD-g>

Be warned, this one is twice as long as the first one, over half an hour.  

Six months ago, when I was trying to learn everything I could about Rhodes 22 sailboats, this would have been what I might have hoped to find.  To someone who already owns a Rhodes 22, this video might be a little long winded.  

If you?d like to be notified when I post new videos related to the Rhodes 22, and you have a YouTube account, the thing to do would be to subscribe to the S/V Silverheels channel.  Everything on there will be about the boat; no cat videos, I promise.

I got my boat lettering from Boat US today, but the weather is supposed to be cold and wet for the next few days, so that project is on the back burner for now.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (88/16)


From colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon May  2 22:26:41 2016
From: colealexander at hotmail.com (Alexander Cole)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 02:26:41 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Launching into Lake Erie
In-Reply-To: <mailman.64.1462213269.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.64.1462213269.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <COL129-W35EEF36511F15EDB6DDE6BA67A0@phx.gbl>



Thanks Steve.  Weather beat me this time.   I finally gave up and let Tamiko pick a landlocked city for the long weekend off.   Sigh.  It was HER birthday I suppose.   We put the Lark back in her reservoir today, at least I'm getting faster at rigging her.   Hopefully I'll have better luck in the fall.   Next chance is September (Erie?) or more likely October for Kentucky  again.   Thanks Jerry for the the call.    
Alex 
> Sandusky downt o wn municipal ramps into sandusky bay.
> This bay is 4 miles wide and 15 miles long
> ...a great place to play
> Steve...419 366 9011


> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:22:13 +0000
> From: Alexander Cole <colealexander at hotmail.com>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sandusky
> Message-ID: <COL129-W67B2012C2EC678641B5363A6620 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Jerry, or others with Lake Erie launching experience:   My Kentucky Lake trip may be changed by T storms!!!   Time is blocked off the schedule, its too late to change dates now.   The boat is back on the hard, and loaded.   OK weather to drive / rig Friday and Monday, but T storms are predicted all weekend.     If its just rainy or scattered storms I'll hang by the marina and not travel much of the lake, but if its all day I'm kind of stuck.  I was looking at Sandusky bay as semi protected water for a backup destination (inland canoeing in Indiana between storms and a hotel as plan D for desperation).    Looking at google, I found East Harbor State Park's West harbor marina as a launch site, but that puts me directly into the lake proper.   Is there a good launch facility or marina in the bay itself that anybody has experience with?   I'm wiling to pay for a lift if needed.   The water will be COLD and I am not an expert heavy water sailor (more experience in a canoe with big
>   waves to be honest).    Its hard to get time off, I'm desperately trying to salvage the 'vacation'.    I'm also looking to protect both Tamiko and the new boat.   I'm not eager to drive through Cleveland until I get a better feel for this mighty beast on a trailer.  Its now further forward, so the tongue weight is safer.  It seemed steady up to 60-65 mph, which may be about right for a heavy high boat behind an explorer?    But if the alternative is sitting at home, I'm open to other ideas for a three nights on the water, preferably with marina / restaurant options.    Somebody (I forget who) had plugged Cleveland Harbor behind the wall, so I'll watch their weather too.   Where did you launch? Alex ColeLark
> 
--
> 
>
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3983, Issue 1
> **********************************************
 		 	   		  

From rweiss at siu.edu  Tue May  3 09:59:45 2016
From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 06:59:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi Peter. Nice video. I really enjoyed seeing your boat and comparing it to
my recently recycled 1998. Not many differences, but a few small ones. I
wanted to mention one thing. You said you were pretty sure your two
batteries were not both wired together and that you had a house battery and
an engine battery. You might want to check that. I have two batteries and a
switch with off, 1, 2, both, settings. But the one thing I discovered that
Stan failed to do is separate the batteries. Both are either off or on,
regardless of which of the 1, 2 or both settings I use. I could not access
the wiring well enough to consider trying to change this, so I'll just live
with it for now. I do know that I can hand crank the motor lift up and down
and manually start the engine if I have to.  

Bob



-----
Bob Weiss
Beach Spring
1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
--
View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Tour-YouTube-Video-tp51951p51953.html
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue May  3 10:32:01 2016
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 10:32:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <000601d1a548$8ec04a50$ac40def0$@ca>

Peter: Thanks for the great video tour. As an owner of a fairly ancient R22 with none of the gizmos that were developed in later years it was very interesting to see the substantial refinements that were added in subsequent years.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: May 2, 2016 9:06 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video

I don?t think I?m going to get into the habit of making an announcement to the list every time I post a new Rhodes 22 related video on YouTube, but I did mention in the first video that I?d be doing a boat tour video, and several people said they?d like to see it, so here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZNQjSyKD-g <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZNQjSyKD-g>

Be warned, this one is twice as long as the first one, over half an hour.  

Six months ago, when I was trying to learn everything I could about Rhodes 22 sailboats, this would have been what I might have hoped to find.  To someone who already owns a Rhodes 22, this video might be a little long winded.  

If you?d like to be notified when I post new videos related to the Rhodes 22, and you have a YouTube account, the thing to do would be to subscribe to the S/V Silverheels channel.  Everything on there will be about the boat; no cat videos, I promise.

I got my boat lettering from Boat US today, but the weather is supposed to be cold and wet for the next few days, so that project is on the back burner for now.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (88/16)

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From larrywallen at verizon.net  Tue May  3 13:41:23 2016
From: larrywallen at verizon.net (Larry Allen)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 13:41:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <000601d1a548$8ec04a50$ac40def0$@ca>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
 <000601d1a548$8ec04a50$ac40def0$@ca>
Message-ID: <01bb01d1a563$032b74e0$09825ea0$@net>

Peter, 

This is extremely helpful to see. We been working on our 1986 Rhodes and it's valuable to see configurations and features on other boats. Many thanks for doing this!

Larry Allen
Sarasota


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video

Peter: Thanks for the great video tour. As an owner of a fairly ancient R22 with none of the gizmos that were developed in later years it was very interesting to see the substantial refinements that were added in subsequent years.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: May 2, 2016 9:06 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video

I don?t think I?m going to get into the habit of making an announcement to the list every time I post a new Rhodes 22 related video on YouTube, but I did mention in the first video that I?d be doing a boat tour video, and several people said they?d like to see it, so here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZNQjSyKD-g <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZNQjSyKD-g>

Be warned, this one is twice as long as the first one, over half an hour.  

Six months ago, when I was trying to learn everything I could about Rhodes 22 sailboats, this would have been what I might have hoped to find.  To someone who already owns a Rhodes 22, this video might be a little long winded.  

If you?d like to be notified when I post new videos related to the Rhodes 22, and you have a YouTube account, the thing to do would be to subscribe to the S/V Silverheels channel.  Everything on there will be about the boat; no cat videos, I promise.

I got my boat lettering from Boat US today, but the weather is supposed to be cold and wet for the next few days, so that project is on the back burner for now.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (88/16)

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From boendert at me.com  Tue May  3 19:55:06 2016
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 19:55:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
 <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <7E8F14BF-85A2-4DC2-8EA3-FC2E39A0F248@me.com>

How does one manually crank the motor when its mounted on the new motor lift? I had no idea. 

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER 
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On May 3, 2016, at 9:59 AM, rweiss <rweiss at siu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter. Nice video. I really enjoyed seeing your boat and comparing it to
> my recently recycled 1998. Not many differences, but a few small ones. I
> wanted to mention one thing. You said you were pretty sure your two
> batteries were not both wired together and that you had a house battery and
> an engine battery. You might want to check that. I have two batteries and a
> switch with off, 1, 2, both, settings. But the one thing I discovered that
> Stan failed to do is separate the batteries. Both are either off or on,
> regardless of which of the 1, 2 or both settings I use. I could not access
> the wiring well enough to consider trying to change this, so I'll just live
> with it for now. I do know that I can hand crank the motor lift up and down
> and manually start the engine if I have to.  
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Bob Weiss
> Beach Spring
> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
> --
> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Tour-YouTube-Video-tp51951p51953.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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From rweiss at siu.edu  Tue May  3 20:18:37 2016
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Robert Louis Weiss)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 00:18:37 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <7E8F14BF-85A2-4DC2-8EA3-FC2E39A0F248@me.com>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
 <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>,
 <7E8F14BF-85A2-4DC2-8EA3-FC2E39A0F248@me.com>
Message-ID: <B23C7F4F-1D09-431D-AF8C-F1DF9B99A3C9@siu.edu>

I was worried about this because of the way my batteries are wired so I looked carefully at the motor down in the back compartment. It has been a while since I looked but I remember seeing something on the end of the motor that could be turned manually. 

Bob 

Robert Weiss
Professor/Director Emeritus, SIUC
Director of Music, 1st U. Methodist Carbondale IL

> On May 3, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
> 
> How does one manually crank the motor when its mounted on the new motor lift? I had no idea. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
> S/V AIRPOWER 
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2016, at 9:59 AM, rweiss <rweiss at siu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter. Nice video. I really enjoyed seeing your boat and comparing it to
>> my recently recycled 1998. Not many differences, but a few small ones. I
>> wanted to mention one thing. You said you were pretty sure your two
>> batteries were not both wired together and that you had a house battery and
>> an engine battery. You might want to check that. I have two batteries and a
>> switch with off, 1, 2, both, settings. But the one thing I discovered that
>> Stan failed to do is separate the batteries. Both are either off or on,
>> regardless of which of the 1, 2 or both settings I use. I could not access
>> the wiring well enough to consider trying to change this, so I'll just live
>> with it for now. I do know that I can hand crank the motor lift up and down
>> and manually start the engine if I have to.  
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Bob Weiss
>> Beach Spring
>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Tour-YouTube-Video-tp51951p51953.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
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From boendert at me.com  Wed May  4 06:54:40 2016
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 06:54:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <B23C7F4F-1D09-431D-AF8C-F1DF9B99A3C9@siu.edu>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
 <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7E8F14BF-85A2-4DC2-8EA3-FC2E39A0F248@me.com>
 <B23C7F4F-1D09-431D-AF8C-F1DF9B99A3C9@siu.edu>
Message-ID: <261536BA-A943-48B5-B913-FB35287D8001@me.com>

Bob, I'll give it a try. I still haven't hard wired a switch. Mine only came with a remote. Big mistake. It would be comforting if I knew I could lower the motor manually by cranking it. 

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER 
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On May 3, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Robert Louis Weiss <rweiss at siu.edu> wrote:
> 
> I was worried about this because of the way my batteries are wired so I looked carefully at the motor down in the back compartment. It has been a while since I looked but I remember seeing something on the end of the motor that could be turned manually. 
> 
> Bob 
> 
> Robert Weiss
> Professor/Director Emeritus, SIUC
> Director of Music, 1st U. Methodist Carbondale IL
> 
>> On May 3, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> How does one manually crank the motor when its mounted on the new motor lift? I had no idea. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER 
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 9:59 AM, rweiss <rweiss at siu.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter. Nice video. I really enjoyed seeing your boat and comparing it to
>>> my recently recycled 1998. Not many differences, but a few small ones. I
>>> wanted to mention one thing. You said you were pretty sure your two
>>> batteries were not both wired together and that you had a house battery and
>>> an engine battery. You might want to check that. I have two batteries and a
>>> switch with off, 1, 2, both, settings. But the one thing I discovered that
>>> Stan failed to do is separate the batteries. Both are either off or on,
>>> regardless of which of the 1, 2 or both settings I use. I could not access
>>> the wiring well enough to consider trying to change this, so I'll just live
>>> with it for now. I do know that I can hand crank the motor lift up and down
>>> and manually start the engine if I have to.  
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Bob Weiss
>>> Beach Spring
>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Tour-YouTube-Video-tp51951p51953.html
>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
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>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Wed May  4 10:33:30 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:33:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
Message-ID: <CABkv36Y=f8UUtSBphq=kUeFM7wqpW2-CxgBU=dBk2s8fipCMyg@mail.gmail.com>

A facelift for Blue Heron

?
Rick
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Wed May  4 11:54:54 2016
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 11:54:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
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Very Nice! I find the teak trim around the seats creaks and cracks every
time someone stands on it. Did you beef this up at all? What year is Blue
Heron?

Cheers
S/V Waif 1984 R22



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

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> A facelift for Blue Heron
>
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From larrywallen at verizon.net  Wed May  4 12:01:55 2016
From: larrywallen at verizon.net (Larry Allen)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 12:01:55 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
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Nice! I'm refinishing our teak as well.

Larry Allen
Sarasota

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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:34 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
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A facelift for Blue Heron

?
Rick
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Wed May  4 13:37:01 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:37:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
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Richard,

Blue Heron was built in '93, but the teak is mostly new.  Actually, it is a
wood-epoxy composite called PlasTeak.  I replaced the hatch cover with
PlasTeak a few years ago and since it held up so well, I replaced
everything else this year.

My cockpit seats are stiffened.  But even before doing that, I don't recall
the teak trim creaking.  Perhaps PlasTeak would be more quiet.

Rick

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Very Nice! I find the teak trim around the seats creaks and cracks every
> time someone stands on it. Did you beef this up at all? What year is Blue
> Heron?
>
> Cheers
> S/V Waif 1984 R22
>
>
>

From ohecht at earthlink.net  Wed May  4 18:21:00 2016
From: ohecht at earthlink.net (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:21:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
Message-ID: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>

Does anyone happen to have a used Rhodes 22 trailer available for sale somewhere in the mid-atlantic region?  

I'm looking at a few nice Rhodes but they don't have trailers and storing the boat dry between sails and moving it around the area on land is what attracted me to this class of boats in the first place so it's a requirement for me.  I want to explore the area and I could access an entire new part of the rivers or Chesapeake Bay in an hour or two over land vs. hours or days on the water. 

I talked to Stan but he doesn't have any used ones left and a new one wouldn't make sense for the price range of the boats I'm considering.  Maybe someone who upgraded at some point and still has the old one?  I'm handy in the automotive department and don't mind something I'd have to refurbish extensively if the price was right...  I'm not considering a generic trailer as I will launch and retrieve the boat frequently and want the design that makes that as easy as possible. 

Thanks in advance. 

Olivier (hopefully soon to be a Rhodie)


From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Wed May  4 20:03:21 2016
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 00:03:21 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
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Isn't the motor throttle cotton hard to handle that far away from the tiller?

Sent from my iPhone

Charles 
s/v Daydream 
98 R 22

> On May 4, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> A facelift for Blue Heron
> 
> ?
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From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Wed May  4 20:05:38 2016
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 20:05:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
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What wood treatment did you use?

Bob (palatka)

> On May 4, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> A facelift for Blue Heron
> 
> ?
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Wed May  4 23:11:17 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 23:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
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References: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>

Oliver,

I have a used original that needs a bit of work.  It is roadworthy although
I bought it without any registration or title.  I was going to rebuild it
(new bunks and some strengthening of the structure) and then register it as
"homebuilt".  Instead, I purchased a newer Rhodes complete with a Karavan
trailer and have no plans for the Rhodes trailer at this time.  I paid $400
and added new lighting.  You are welcome to it for the same $400.  I am
located in Kings Park, NY (Long Island).

Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Olivier Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 6:21 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer

Does anyone happen to have a used Rhodes 22 trailer available for sale
somewhere in the mid-atlantic region?  

I'm looking at a few nice Rhodes but they don't have trailers and storing
the boat dry between sails and moving it around the area on land is what
attracted me to this class of boats in the first place so it's a requirement
for me.  I want to explore the area and I could access an entire new part of
the rivers or Chesapeake Bay in an hour or two over land vs. hours or days
on the water. 

I talked to Stan but he doesn't have any used ones left and a new one
wouldn't make sense for the price range of the boats I'm considering.  Maybe
someone who upgraded at some point and still has the old one?  I'm handy in
the automotive department and don't mind something I'd have to refurbish
extensively if the price was right...  I'm not considering a generic trailer
as I will launch and retrieve the boat frequently and want the design that
makes that as easy as possible. 

Thanks in advance. 

Olivier (hopefully soon to be a Rhodie)

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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu May  5 08:59:53 2016
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 08:59:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
In-Reply-To: <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>
 <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <76C29562-FE57-4321-A576-EBFFBD622048@stottarchitecture.com>

MIke 
If Oliver is too far away or not interested. 
I would like to consider your trailer. 
Ric Stott 
s/v Dadventure 
Hampton Bays

> On May 4, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Michael Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> Oliver,
> 
> I have a used original that needs a bit of work.  It is roadworthy although
> I bought it without any registration or title.  I was going to rebuild it
> (new bunks and some strengthening of the structure) and then register it as
> "homebuilt".  Instead, I purchased a newer Rhodes complete with a Karavan
> trailer and have no plans for the Rhodes trailer at this time.  I paid $400
> and added new lighting.  You are welcome to it for the same $400.  I am
> located in Kings Park, NY (Long Island).
> 
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Olivier Hecht
> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 6:21 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
> 
> Does anyone happen to have a used Rhodes 22 trailer available for sale
> somewhere in the mid-atlantic region?  
> 
> I'm looking at a few nice Rhodes but they don't have trailers and storing
> the boat dry between sails and moving it around the area on land is what
> attracted me to this class of boats in the first place so it's a requirement
> for me.  I want to explore the area and I could access an entire new part of
> the rivers or Chesapeake Bay in an hour or two over land vs. hours or days
> on the water. 
> 
> I talked to Stan but he doesn't have any used ones left and a new one
> wouldn't make sense for the price range of the boats I'm considering.  Maybe
> someone who upgraded at some point and still has the old one?  I'm handy in
> the automotive department and don't mind something I'd have to refurbish
> extensively if the price was right...  I'm not considering a generic trailer
> as I will launch and retrieve the boat frequently and want the design that
> makes that as easy as possible. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Olivier (hopefully soon to be a Rhodie)
> 
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From ohecht at earthlink.net  Thu May  5 09:25:59 2016
From: ohecht at earthlink.net (ohecht)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 06:25:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
In-Reply-To: <76C29562-FE57-4321-A576-EBFFBD622048@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>
 <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>
 <76C29562-FE57-4321-A576-EBFFBD622048@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <1462454759158-51968.post@n5.nabble.com>

Thanks, Mike.  That might be a little far away for me to consider, but it's
still very tempting as it sounds like a good solution for me otherwise.  Can
you tell me more about the Karavan trailer?  Is it specific to the Rhodes
22?

Ric, if you're closer and want the trailer, I certainly won't be offended if
you take it before I make a decision here...I've got lots of moving parts
with this decision!

Olivier


MIke 
If Oliver is too far away or not interested. 
I would like to consider your trailer. 
Ric Stott 
s/v Dadventure 
Hampton Bays

> On May 4, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Michael Weisner &lt;mweisner@&gt; wrote:
> 
> Oliver,
> 
> I have a used original that needs a bit of work.  It is roadworthy
> although
> I bought it without any registration or title.  I was going to rebuild it
> (new bunks and some strengthening of the structure) and then register it
> as
> "homebuilt".  Instead, I purchased a newer Rhodes complete with a Karavan
> trailer and have no plans for the Rhodes trailer at this time.  I paid
> $400
> and added new lighting.  You are welcome to it for the same $400.  I am
> located in Kings Park, NY (Long Island).
> 
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY




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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu May  5 10:21:56 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 10:21:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR18MB0380EEB01960AE90AED29FA0D97C0@CY1PR18MB0380.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CABkv36ZxrVHXs4Raiz-bfS0U9rFfv=Tzc3QgkjDXO-v2oZ-PMg@mail.gmail.com>

Charles,

I sit behind the throttle-shifter and operate it with my right hand while
my left hand is on the tiller.

Rick

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu May  5 10:24:57 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 10:24:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
In-Reply-To: <BB502B2C-6AA3-4D9C-BDC4-94510715DACB@gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36Y=f8UUtSBphq=kUeFM7wqpW2-CxgBU=dBk2s8fipCMyg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABkv36bCsubfoXJdh6PZRV4mF5t3FOKV7pseaRjGUS6Z=9P8tw@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

I replaced the old black teak wood with synthetic PlasTeak.

Rick

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:

> What wood treatment did you use?
>
> Bob (palatka)
>
>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu May  5 11:57:44 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 11:57:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36ZxrVHXs4Raiz-bfS0U9rFfv=Tzc3QgkjDXO-v2oZ-PMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36Y=f8UUtSBphq=kUeFM7wqpW2-CxgBU=dBk2s8fipCMyg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CY1PR18MB0380EEB01960AE90AED29FA0D97C0@CY1PR18MB0380.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
 <CABkv36ZxrVHXs4Raiz-bfS0U9rFfv=Tzc3QgkjDXO-v2oZ-PMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02d801d1a6e6$df15c5d0$9d415170$@ebsmed.com>

UK style, seated on the right?

Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Rick
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:22 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak

Charles,

I sit behind the throttle-shifter and operate it with my right hand while my
left hand is on the tiller.

Rick
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu May  5 12:05:50 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 12:05:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
In-Reply-To: <1462454759158-51968.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>
 <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>
 <76C29562-FE57-4321-A576-EBFFBD622048@stottarchitecture.com>
 <1462454759158-51968.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <02dd01d1a6e8$0273c4e0$075b4ea0$@ebsmed.com>

The Karavan trailer is roller based.  It is 1994 vintage and galvanized and
in very good condition so I thought that I might convert it to a bunk design
and add an extension tongue.  So far it has been just that, thought, since
it works fairly well although it requires a very high tide for recovery
without the extension.

The Rhodes trailer (the one up for sale) is from the 80s and made of painted
steel.  It has hauled the boat without issue although I would not want to
plan a long trip with it without additional work.

Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
ohecht
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 9:26 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer

Thanks, Mike.  That might be a little far away for me to consider, but it's
still very tempting as it sounds like a good solution for me otherwise.  Can
you tell me more about the Karavan trailer?  Is it specific to the Rhodes
22?

Ric, if you're closer and want the trailer, I certainly won't be offended if
you take it before I make a decision here...I've got lots of moving parts
with this decision!

Olivier


MIke
If Oliver is too far away or not interested. 
I would like to consider your trailer. 
Ric Stott
s/v Dadventure
Hampton Bays

> On May 4, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Michael Weisner &lt;mweisner@&gt; wrote:
> 
> Oliver,
> 
> I have a used original that needs a bit of work.  It is roadworthy 
> although I bought it without any registration or title.  I was going 
> to rebuild it (new bunks and some strengthening of the structure) and 
> then register it as "homebuilt".  Instead, I purchased a newer Rhodes 
> complete with a Karavan trailer and have no plans for the Rhodes 
> trailer at this time.  I paid
> $400
> and added new lighting.  You are welcome to it for the same $400.  I 
> am located in Kings Park, NY (Long Island).
> 
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY




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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu May  5 12:08:49 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 12:08:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
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References: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>
 <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>
 <76C29562-FE57-4321-A576-EBFFBD622048@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <02de01d1a6e8$6bffba40$43ff2ec0$@ebsmed.com>

Ric,

If you are interested and he isn't, just let me know. We are not far apart.

Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Richard Stott
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 9:00 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer

MIke
If Oliver is too far away or not interested. 
I would like to consider your trailer. 
Ric Stott
s/v Dadventure
Hampton Bays


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu May  5 12:34:58 2016
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 12:34:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
In-Reply-To: <02de01d1a6e8$6bffba40$43ff2ec0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <A8B27C43-4A01-43AD-B50D-07897BB291E3@earthlink.net>
 <028101d1a67b$cbb107e0$631317a0$@ebsmed.com>
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Yes I?m interested
I have a meeting in Islip at noon tomorrow and I?m a guest juror at NYIT for an Architect Student Final Review. 
I expect to be done there about 6:00/6:30 pm. 
I might be able to stop after to have a look. 
Any chance of that. 
Ric 
You can contact me off list 
ric at stottarchitecture.com 


> On May 5, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Michael Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> Ric,
> 
> If you are interested and he isn't, just let me know. We are not far apart.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Richard Stott
> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 9:00 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for a used trailer
> 
> MIke
> If Oliver is too far away or not interested. 
> I would like to consider your trailer. 
> Ric Stott
> s/v Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
> 
> __________________________________________________
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From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Thu May  5 12:57:05 2016
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 12:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
In-Reply-To: <02d801d1a6e6$df15c5d0$9d415170$@ebsmed.com>
References: <CABkv36Y=f8UUtSBphq=kUeFM7wqpW2-CxgBU=dBk2s8fipCMyg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CY1PR18MB0380EEB01960AE90AED29FA0D97C0@CY1PR18MB0380.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
 <CABkv36ZxrVHXs4Raiz-bfS0U9rFfv=Tzc3QgkjDXO-v2oZ-PMg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2BCB6C6B-241D-48C5-AA5C-94017C7F8492@gmail.com>

Uk style huh?
I prefer to sit to starboard and tiller with the left too.

Bob (palatka)

> On May 5, 2016, at 11:57 AM, "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> UK style, seated on the right?
> 
> Mike
> s/v Windlass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Rick
> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:22 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
> 
> Charles,
> 
> I sit behind the throttle-shifter and operate it with my right hand while my
> left hand is on the tiller.
> 
> Rick
> __________________________________________________
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From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Thu May  5 12:57:25 2016
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 12:57:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Teak
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36bCsubfoXJdh6PZRV4mF5t3FOKV7pseaRjGUS6Z=9P8tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36Y=f8UUtSBphq=kUeFM7wqpW2-CxgBU=dBk2s8fipCMyg@mail.gmail.com>
 <BB502B2C-6AA3-4D9C-BDC4-94510715DACB@gmail.com>
 <CABkv36bCsubfoXJdh6PZRV4mF5t3FOKV7pseaRjGUS6Z=9P8tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EAB9D22C-D0DD-4139-A102-CB858EFDE158@gmail.com>

Cool! Looks great!
Bob (palatka)

> On May 5, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I replaced the old black teak wood with synthetic PlasTeak.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What wood treatment did you use?
>> 
>> Bob (palatka)
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From rweiss at siu.edu  Sat May  7 09:29:15 2016
From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 06:29:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <261536BA-A943-48B5-B913-FB35287D8001@me.com>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
 <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7E8F14BF-85A2-4DC2-8EA3-FC2E39A0F248@me.com>
 <B23C7F4F-1D09-431D-AF8C-F1DF9B99A3C9@siu.edu>
 <261536BA-A943-48B5-B913-FB35287D8001@me.com>
Message-ID: <1462627755338-51977.post@n5.nabble.com>

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n51977/IMG_2502_20160506_132353.jpg> 

Here's the motor for my engine lift. Can't guarantee everyone else has the
same thing as Stan seems to change parts quite a bit. But at least I'm glad
I have a manual option if my battery is dead.  

Bob



-----
Bob Weiss
Beach Spring
1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
--
View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Tour-YouTube-Video-tp51951p51977.html
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From ohecht at earthlink.net  Sun May  8 00:44:31 2016
From: ohecht at earthlink.net (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 00:44:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
Message-ID: <0909BA88-F6AB-4DE0-99BD-1EADF1245D26@earthlink.net>

I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related questions:

What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the diamond shape?

Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory recycling process?

I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull pendant and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a difference have owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?

Thanks,

Olivier

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Sun May  8 10:45:03 2016
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 10:45:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
In-Reply-To: <0909BA88-F6AB-4DE0-99BD-1EADF1245D26@earthlink.net>
References: <0909BA88-F6AB-4DE0-99BD-1EADF1245D26@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRo3M7VUqK45LEZgXwmX+33Cos0DeyzXJN2mVNkXn+yBHw@mail.gmail.com>

Oliver, good question. I hope you get numerous replies.

Cary
s/v Whisper
Radford, VA

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related questions:
>
> What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the diamond
> shape?
>
> Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory recycling
> process?
>
> I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull pendant
> and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a difference have
> owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olivier
> __________________________________________________
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From waldjh1 at gmail.com  Sun May  8 15:42:42 2016
From: waldjh1 at gmail.com (John Waldhausen)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:42:42 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Switch
In-Reply-To: <E5139F09-68E7-47FA-A64F-5F0E4153E8C0@bellsouth.net>
References: <289e4f47-368a-4339-a11c-2bd105bfb0be@getmailbird.com>
 <1446930949684-51218.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <E5139F09-68E7-47FA-A64F-5F0E4153E8C0@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <92194047-0489-457A-BB51-AE65EE6C15DA@gmail.com>

All
I tried the below and when I hooked up the switch as written about below, it got ver hot and has fried all the receiver and now nothing works. Any suggestions?

John 
Bainbridge Island

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:07 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> The one Bruce refers to, I believe, is the one Stan installs.  If not, it is quite similar. 
> 
> Bob in Stuart, FL
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:15 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ted,
>> 
>> That's not the one I used.  Here's mine:
>> http://www.gamainc.com/site/epage/130244_941.htm.
>> 
>> As for wiring, there's a red and a white wire from the boat battery to a
>> block (which is the receiver for the remote)  located on the port side of
>> the lazarette near the winch and then wires from the block to the winch. 
>> Remove the ones from the block/controller that lead to the winch.  Add one
>> wire from the red side of the block to the connector in the middle of the
>> switch on the side that has a label, and wire the white side of the block to
>> the other center pole on the switch.  Then run wires from the remaining two
>> poles on the switch to the terminals on the winch.  It doesn't make any
>> difference which of those wires to which terminal, but if after installing
>> the switch in the lazarette bulkhead the motor goes down when you push the
>> up side of the rocker, then simply swap those last two wires on the back of
>> the switch.
>> 
>> Alternatively, I think you could disconnect the wires from the remote
>> controller, and connect them directly to the switch with some added wire,
>> bypassing the remote controller entirely.  
>> 
>> When cutting a square hole to insert the switch, err on the side of too
>> small and sand your way to the "right size."   The spec says the switch is
>> .83" x 1.48" and I thought that was the size I cut.  Fortunately, whatever I
>> cut was too small and I just kept enlarging it in increments until the
>> switch snapped into place.  If you cut too large, the switch won't mount
>> properly -- it's held in by tensioners on the side of the switch.
>> 
>> In the meantime, put a float on the remote.  At least you'll have a chance
>> if you lose it overboard before you get the switch installed.  
>> 
>> By the way, I don't know if you keep the remote controller hooked in the
>> circuit what would happen if you tried to use the remote.  Maybe both the
>> switch and the remote would work at your option, but then maybe neither
>> would work.  Somebody who actually understands electricity might be able to
>> advise on that.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.  Good luck.
>> 
>> Bruce
>> s/v Tuxedo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Motor-Lift-Switch-tp51213p51218.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> __________________________________________________
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From waldjh1 at gmail.com  Sun May  8 15:58:21 2016
From: waldjh1 at gmail.com (John Waldhausen)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:58:21 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Switch
In-Reply-To: <E5139F09-68E7-47FA-A64F-5F0E4153E8C0@bellsouth.net>
References: <289e4f47-368a-4339-a11c-2bd105bfb0be@getmailbird.com>
 <1446930949684-51218.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <E5139F09-68E7-47FA-A64F-5F0E4153E8C0@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <E252F412-7177-46FA-A336-9020F25FD1DC@gmail.com>

Does anyone know who makes the remote winch on a 2012 Rhodes. Mine has no manufacturer listed on it. 

John 
Bainbridge Island

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:07 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> The one Bruce refers to, I believe, is the one Stan installs.  If not, it is quite similar. 
> 
> Bob in Stuart, FL
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:15 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ted,
>> 
>> That's not the one I used.  Here's mine:
>> http://www.gamainc.com/site/epage/130244_941.htm.
>> 
>> As for wiring, there's a red and a white wire from the boat battery to a
>> block (which is the receiver for the remote)  located on the port side of
>> the lazarette near the winch and then wires from the block to the winch. 
>> Remove the ones from the block/controller that lead to the winch.  Add one
>> wire from the red side of the block to the connector in the middle of the
>> switch on the side that has a label, and wire the white side of the block to
>> the other center pole on the switch.  Then run wires from the remaining two
>> poles on the switch to the terminals on the winch.  It doesn't make any
>> difference which of those wires to which terminal, but if after installing
>> the switch in the lazarette bulkhead the motor goes down when you push the
>> up side of the rocker, then simply swap those last two wires on the back of
>> the switch.
>> 
>> Alternatively, I think you could disconnect the wires from the remote
>> controller, and connect them directly to the switch with some added wire,
>> bypassing the remote controller entirely.  
>> 
>> When cutting a square hole to insert the switch, err on the side of too
>> small and sand your way to the "right size."   The spec says the switch is
>> .83" x 1.48" and I thought that was the size I cut.  Fortunately, whatever I
>> cut was too small and I just kept enlarging it in increments until the
>> switch snapped into place.  If you cut too large, the switch won't mount
>> properly -- it's held in by tensioners on the side of the switch.
>> 
>> In the meantime, put a float on the remote.  At least you'll have a chance
>> if you lose it overboard before you get the switch installed.  
>> 
>> By the way, I don't know if you keep the remote controller hooked in the
>> circuit what would happen if you tried to use the remote.  Maybe both the
>> switch and the remote would work at your option, but then maybe neither
>> would work.  Somebody who actually understands electricity might be able to
>> advise on that.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.  Good luck.
>> 
>> Bruce
>> s/v Tuxedo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Motor-Lift-Switch-tp51213p51218.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> __________________________________________________
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>> 
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> 
> __________________________________________________
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From geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com  Sun May  8 17:24:59 2016
From: geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com (Geoff Farrell)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 16:24:59 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Switch
In-Reply-To: <E252F412-7177-46FA-A336-9020F25FD1DC@gmail.com>
References: <289e4f47-368a-4339-a11c-2bd105bfb0be@getmailbird.com>
 <1446930949684-51218.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <E5139F09-68E7-47FA-A64F-5F0E4153E8C0@bellsouth.net>
 <E252F412-7177-46FA-A336-9020F25FD1DC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADg3Kzkrt1Xz+KKUnmDbMhw1cDOmPypdjH9A8S_3en6YxoZoQA@mail.gmail.com>

My 2011 Motor Winch is Chicago Electric Power Tools Model 95912 12 volt
electric winch from Harbor Freight. Remote takes MN27 27A12V battery. Yours
may be different. Mine isn't available anymore. Geoff

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:58 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know who makes the remote winch on a 2012 Rhodes. Mine has no
> manufacturer listed on it.
>
> John
> Bainbridge Island
>
> > On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:07 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > The one Bruce refers to, I believe, is the one Stan installs.  If not,
> it is quite similar.
> >
> > Bob in Stuart, FL
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:15 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ted,
> >>
> >> That's not the one I used.  Here's mine:
> >> http://www.gamainc.com/site/epage/130244_941.htm.
> >>
> >> As for wiring, there's a red and a white wire from the boat battery to a
> >> block (which is the receiver for the remote)  located on the port side
> of
> >> the lazarette near the winch and then wires from the block to the winch.
> >> Remove the ones from the block/controller that lead to the winch.  Add
> one
> >> wire from the red side of the block to the connector in the middle of
> the
> >> switch on the side that has a label, and wire the white side of the
> block to
> >> the other center pole on the switch.  Then run wires from the remaining
> two
> >> poles on the switch to the terminals on the winch.  It doesn't make any
> >> difference which of those wires to which terminal, but if after
> installing
> >> the switch in the lazarette bulkhead the motor goes down when you push
> the
> >> up side of the rocker, then simply swap those last two wires on the
> back of
> >> the switch.
> >>
> >> Alternatively, I think you could disconnect the wires from the remote
> >> controller, and connect them directly to the switch with some added
> wire,
> >> bypassing the remote controller entirely.
> >>
> >> When cutting a square hole to insert the switch, err on the side of too
> >> small and sand your way to the "right size."   The spec says the switch
> is
> >> .83" x 1.48" and I thought that was the size I cut.  Fortunately,
> whatever I
> >> cut was too small and I just kept enlarging it in increments until the
> >> switch snapped into place.  If you cut too large, the switch won't mount
> >> properly -- it's held in by tensioners on the side of the switch.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, put a float on the remote.  At least you'll have a
> chance
> >> if you lose it overboard before you get the switch installed.
> >>
> >> By the way, I don't know if you keep the remote controller hooked in the
> >> circuit what would happen if you tried to use the remote.  Maybe both
> the
> >> switch and the remote would work at your option, but then maybe neither
> >> would work.  Somebody who actually understands electricity might be
> able to
> >> advise on that.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps.  Good luck.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >> s/v Tuxedo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Motor-Lift-Switch-tp51213p51218.html
> >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >> __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
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>

From waldjh1 at gmail.com  Sun May  8 19:52:54 2016
From: waldjh1 at gmail.com (John Waldhausen)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 16:52:54 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Switch
In-Reply-To: <CADg3Kzkrt1Xz+KKUnmDbMhw1cDOmPypdjH9A8S_3en6YxoZoQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <289e4f47-368a-4339-a11c-2bd105bfb0be@getmailbird.com>
 <1446930949684-51218.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <E5139F09-68E7-47FA-A64F-5F0E4153E8C0@bellsouth.net>
 <E252F412-7177-46FA-A336-9020F25FD1DC@gmail.com>
 <CADg3Kzkrt1Xz+KKUnmDbMhw1cDOmPypdjH9A8S_3en6YxoZoQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <202CB08B-0C5C-423B-A84F-30D3C1E80890@gmail.com>

Thanks Geoff. It appears mine isn't either. 

John Waldhausen

> On May 8, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My 2011 Motor Winch is Chicago Electric Power Tools Model 95912 12 volt
> electric winch from Harbor Freight. Remote takes MN27 27A12V battery. Yours
> may be different. Mine isn't available anymore. Geoff
> 
>> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:58 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know who makes the remote winch on a 2012 Rhodes. Mine has no
>> manufacturer listed on it.
>> 
>> John
>> Bainbridge Island
>> 
>>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:07 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The one Bruce refers to, I believe, is the one Stan installs.  If not,
>> it is quite similar.
>>> 
>>> Bob in Stuart, FL
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:15 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> That's not the one I used.  Here's mine:
>>>> http://www.gamainc.com/site/epage/130244_941.htm.
>>>> 
>>>> As for wiring, there's a red and a white wire from the boat battery to a
>>>> block (which is the receiver for the remote)  located on the port side
>> of
>>>> the lazarette near the winch and then wires from the block to the winch.
>>>> Remove the ones from the block/controller that lead to the winch.  Add
>> one
>>>> wire from the red side of the block to the connector in the middle of
>> the
>>>> switch on the side that has a label, and wire the white side of the
>> block to
>>>> the other center pole on the switch.  Then run wires from the remaining
>> two
>>>> poles on the switch to the terminals on the winch.  It doesn't make any
>>>> difference which of those wires to which terminal, but if after
>> installing
>>>> the switch in the lazarette bulkhead the motor goes down when you push
>> the
>>>> up side of the rocker, then simply swap those last two wires on the
>> back of
>>>> the switch.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, I think you could disconnect the wires from the remote
>>>> controller, and connect them directly to the switch with some added
>> wire,
>>>> bypassing the remote controller entirely.
>>>> 
>>>> When cutting a square hole to insert the switch, err on the side of too
>>>> small and sand your way to the "right size."   The spec says the switch
>> is
>>>> .83" x 1.48" and I thought that was the size I cut.  Fortunately,
>> whatever I
>>>> cut was too small and I just kept enlarging it in increments until the
>>>> switch snapped into place.  If you cut too large, the switch won't mount
>>>> properly -- it's held in by tensioners on the side of the switch.
>>>> 
>>>> In the meantime, put a float on the remote.  At least you'll have a
>> chance
>>>> if you lose it overboard before you get the switch installed.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, I don't know if you keep the remote controller hooked in the
>>>> circuit what would happen if you tried to use the remote.  Maybe both
>> the
>>>> switch and the remote would work at your option, but then maybe neither
>>>> would work.  Somebody who actually understands electricity might be
>> able to
>>>> advise on that.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope that helps.  Good luck.
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce
>>>> s/v Tuxedo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
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From jjcampjr at yahoo.com  Mon May  9 09:55:33 2016
From: jjcampjr at yahoo.com (Joe Camp)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 13:55:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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Oliver:
???? My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard centerboard. As I understand (from Stan) the same effect as that provided by the "Diamond Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying an old one about three quarters down. So, I do that. I don't know if it works (really) because I am not that savvy of a sailor. However, I trust Stan on any matter referring to his boat's performance.? So, there you have it.? Almost any question can be answered by checking on the "list"s archives."? Good luck getting your Rhodes. 

???? By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about the R-22.? Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been engineered to maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a dream and cuts a dashing image on water, even on the hard.? Almost every time I launch, someone pulls into the marina and asks what kind of boat I have. It caught their eyes as they drove past. Then, they spend some time eying her up from many angles and showering me with questions and flattering comments. Couple of years ago, a guy approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really awe-struck). "Ah, this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never actually seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and it warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.? It can't provide sex.? But, Stan's probably working on that. 

Joe Camp
s/v John Dawson
Bohemia River, MD



 
      From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
 To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
 Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
   
I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related questions:

What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the diamond shape?

Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory recycling process?

I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull pendant and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a difference have owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?

Thanks,

Olivier
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon May  9 10:11:32 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 10:11:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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Mine is a '93 with a diamond board.  It was about 1990 the change was made.

The diamond board has a few advantages over the centerboard.  With a pivot
instead of a pin, it is easier to maintain and leak-free.  The main benefit
is structural in that the boat is beachable and trailerable without concern
for the shoal keel.

Rick


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Oliver:
>      My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard centerboard. As I
> understand (from Stan) the same effect as that provided by the "Diamond
> Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying an old one about three quarters
> down. So, I do that. I don't know if it works (really) because I am not
> that savvy of a sailor. However, I trust Stan on any matter referring to
> his boat's performance.  So, there you have it.  Almost any question can be
> answered by checking on the "list"s archives."  Good luck getting your
> Rhodes.
>
>      By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about the
> R-22.  Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been engineered to
> maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a dream and cuts a dashing
> image on water, even on the hard.  Almost every time I launch, someone
> pulls into the marina and asks what kind of boat I have. It caught their
> eyes as they drove past. Then, they spend some time eying her up from many
> angles and showering me with questions and flattering comments. Couple of
> years ago, a guy approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really
> awe-struck). "Ah, this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never
> actually seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and
> it warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.  It can't provide sex.  But,
> Stan's probably working on that.
>
> Joe Camp
> s/v John Dawson
> Bohemia River, MD
>
>
>
>
>       From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
>  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>  Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
>  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
>
> I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related questions:
>
> What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the diamond
> shape?
>
> Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory recycling
> process?
>
> I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull pendant
> and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a difference have
> owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olivier
> __________________________________________________
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> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
>
>
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon May  9 11:10:45 2016
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 11:10:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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Not sure what the difference in beachability (I wouldn't do it with 
an R22) trailerability would be. Both have a slot for the 
centerboard. the diamond board as far as I know is just an improved 
design for the centerboard.

BTW, Fretless is a 1991 with a diamondboard. We actually thought she 
was a centerboard boat when we bought her. It wasn't until we saw her 
up in slings for bottom painting that we learned she had the diamondboard.

Mary Lou
1991 Fretless (recycled 1998)
Soon to be offered for sale
I'll have a post to the board about it in the next few days
Rock Hall, MD

At 10:11 AM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
>Mine is a '93 with a diamond board.  It was about 1990 the change was made.
>
>The diamond board has a few advantages over the centerboard.  With a pivot
>instead of a pin, it is easier to maintain and leak-free.  The main benefit
>is structural in that the boat is beachable and trailerable without concern
>for the shoal keel.
>
>Rick
>
>
>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list <
>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Oliver:
> >      My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard centerboard. As I
> > understand (from Stan) the same effect as that provided by the "Diamond
> > Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying an old one about three quarters
> > down. So, I do that. I don't know if it works (really) because I am not
> > that savvy of a sailor. However, I trust Stan on any matter referring to
> > his boat's performance.  So, there you have it.  Almost any question can be
> > answered by checking on the "list"s archives."  Good luck getting your
> > Rhodes.
> >
> >      By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about the
> > R-22.  Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been engineered to
> > maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a dream and cuts a dashing
> > image on water, even on the hard.  Almost every time I launch, someone
> > pulls into the marina and asks what kind of boat I have. It caught their
> > eyes as they drove past. Then, they spend some time eying her up from many
> > angles and showering me with questions and flattering comments. Couple of
> > years ago, a guy approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really
> > awe-struck). "Ah, this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never
> > actually seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and
> > it warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.  It can't provide sex.  But,
> > Stan's probably working on that.
> >
> > Joe Camp
> > s/v John Dawson
> > Bohemia River, MD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >       From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
> >  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >  Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
> >  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> >
> > I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related questions:
> >
> > What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the diamond
> > shape?
> >
> > Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory recycling
> > process?
> >
> > I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull pendant
> > and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a difference have
> > owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Olivier
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon May  9 12:36:06 2016
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 12:36:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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Based on postings to this list over the years, Mary Lou 's comments reflect
my own understanding of the difference between the diamond board and the
older board. It was also my understanding, possibly incorrect, that boats
coming from the plant as refurbished boats have the diamond boards installed
so it is possible that the date of original construction might not always
reflect which board is installed.

I have the original rudder style board that drops into the keel and rotates
on a pin. The centerboard housing cap is removable allowing the centreboard
to be lifted out. Very early boats did not have a removable cap so removing
the centreboard was a much more involved process. My understanding, and I
stand to be corrected, is that this installation and pivot pin arrangement
is the same for the traditional centreboard and the diamond board.

My view is that the diamond board is a refinement that would allow for
slightly improved performance for those who have the knowledge and skill to
take advantage of such things. While I would choose the diamond board in
theory, I would definitely give much greater weight to selecting a boat that
had been maintained in good condition and had the comfort features that I
wanted.

I would be very reluctant about beaching the R22 regardless of the
centerboard used. I don't think the board makes any difference to how the
boat is launched from or retrieved onto the trailer.

In the final analysis, the for the authoritative answer about such matters
you need to ask Stan.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Lou Troy
Sent: May 9, 2016 11:11 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?

Not sure what the difference in beachability (I wouldn't do it with an R22)
trailerability would be. Both have a slot for the centerboard. the diamond
board as far as I know is just an improved design for the centerboard.

BTW, Fretless is a 1991 with a diamondboard. We actually thought she was a
centerboard boat when we bought her. It wasn't until we saw her up in slings
for bottom painting that we learned she had the diamondboard.

Mary Lou
1991 Fretless (recycled 1998)
Soon to be offered for sale
I'll have a post to the board about it in the next few days Rock Hall, MD

At 10:11 AM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
>Mine is a '93 with a diamond board.  It was about 1990 the change was made.
>
>The diamond board has a few advantages over the centerboard.  With a 
>pivot instead of a pin, it is easier to maintain and leak-free.  The 
>main benefit is structural in that the boat is beachable and 
>trailerable without concern for the shoal keel.
>
>Rick
>
>
>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list < 
>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Oliver:
> >      My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard 
> > centerboard. As I understand (from Stan) the same effect as that 
> > provided by the "Diamond Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying 
> > an old one about three quarters down. So, I do that. I don't know if 
> > it works (really) because I am not that savvy of a sailor. However, 
> > I trust Stan on any matter referring to his boat's performance.  So, 
> > there you have it.  Almost any question can be answered by checking 
> > on the "list"s archives."  Good luck getting your Rhodes.
> >
> >      By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about 
> > the R-22.  Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been 
> > engineered to maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a 
> > dream and cuts a dashing image on water, even on the hard.  Almost 
> > every time I launch, someone pulls into the marina and asks what 
> > kind of boat I have. It caught their eyes as they drove past. Then, 
> > they spend some time eying her up from many angles and showering me 
> > with questions and flattering comments. Couple of years ago, a guy 
> > approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really awe-struck). "Ah, 
> > this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never actually 
> > seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and it 
> > warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.  It can't provide sex.  But,
Stan's probably working on that.
> >
> > Joe Camp
> > s/v John Dawson
> > Bohemia River, MD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >       From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
> >  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >  Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
> >  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> >
> > I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related
questions:
> >
> > What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the 
> > diamond shape?
> >
> > Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory 
> > recycling process?
> >
> > I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull 
> > pendant and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a 
> > difference have owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Olivier
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon May  9 14:26:54 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:26:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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My diamond board model was advertised as beachable and capable of being run
up right onto the trailer for haul out.  I've done both with no problem.
The one centerboard model I have seen does not have the same keel design as
mine.

Rick

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Based on postings to this list over the years, Mary Lou 's comments reflect
> my own understanding of the difference between the diamond board and the
> older board. It was also my understanding, possibly incorrect, that boats
> coming from the plant as refurbished boats have the diamond boards
> installed
> so it is possible that the date of original construction might not always
> reflect which board is installed.
>
> I have the original rudder style board that drops into the keel and rotates
> on a pin. The centerboard housing cap is removable allowing the centreboard
> to be lifted out. Very early boats did not have a removable cap so removing
> the centreboard was a much more involved process. My understanding, and I
> stand to be corrected, is that this installation and pivot pin arrangement
> is the same for the traditional centreboard and the diamond board.
>
> My view is that the diamond board is a refinement that would allow for
> slightly improved performance for those who have the knowledge and skill to
> take advantage of such things. While I would choose the diamond board in
> theory, I would definitely give much greater weight to selecting a boat
> that
> had been maintained in good condition and had the comfort features that I
> wanted.
>
> I would be very reluctant about beaching the R22 regardless of the
> centerboard used. I don't think the board makes any difference to how the
> boat is launched from or retrieved onto the trailer.
>
> In the final analysis, the for the authoritative answer about such matters
> you need to ask Stan.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: May 9, 2016 11:11 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
>
> Not sure what the difference in beachability (I wouldn't do it with an R22)
> trailerability would be. Both have a slot for the centerboard. the diamond
> board as far as I know is just an improved design for the centerboard.
>
> BTW, Fretless is a 1991 with a diamondboard. We actually thought she was a
> centerboard boat when we bought her. It wasn't until we saw her up in
> slings
> for bottom painting that we learned she had the diamondboard.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Fretless (recycled 1998)
> Soon to be offered for sale
> I'll have a post to the board about it in the next few days Rock Hall, MD
>
> At 10:11 AM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
> >Mine is a '93 with a diamond board.  It was about 1990 the change was
> made.
> >
> >The diamond board has a few advantages over the centerboard.  With a
> >pivot instead of a pin, it is easier to maintain and leak-free.  The
> >main benefit is structural in that the boat is beachable and
> >trailerable without concern for the shoal keel.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list <
> >rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Oliver:
> > >      My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard
> > > centerboard. As I understand (from Stan) the same effect as that
> > > provided by the "Diamond Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying
> > > an old one about three quarters down. So, I do that. I don't know if
> > > it works (really) because I am not that savvy of a sailor. However,
> > > I trust Stan on any matter referring to his boat's performance.  So,
> > > there you have it.  Almost any question can be answered by checking
> > > on the "list"s archives."  Good luck getting your Rhodes.
> > >
> > >      By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about
> > > the R-22.  Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been
> > > engineered to maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a
> > > dream and cuts a dashing image on water, even on the hard.  Almost
> > > every time I launch, someone pulls into the marina and asks what
> > > kind of boat I have. It caught their eyes as they drove past. Then,
> > > they spend some time eying her up from many angles and showering me
> > > with questions and flattering comments. Couple of years ago, a guy
> > > approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really awe-struck). "Ah,
> > > this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never actually
> > > seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and it
> > > warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.  It can't provide sex.  But,
> Stan's probably working on that.
> > >
> > > Joe Camp
> > > s/v John Dawson
> > > Bohemia River, MD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >       From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
> > >  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >  Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
> > >  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> > >
> > > I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related
> questions:
> > >
> > > What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the
> > > diamond shape?
> > >
> > > Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory
> > > recycling process?
> > >
> > > I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull
> > > pendant and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a
> > > difference have owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Olivier
> > > __________________________________________________
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon May  9 16:35:32 2016
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 16:35:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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The Rhodes has always been advertised as being able to be sailed or 
motored right on to the trailer.

Mary Lou


At 02:26 PM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
>My diamond board model was advertised as beachable and capable of being run
>up right onto the trailer for haul out.  I've done both with no problem.
>The one centerboard model I have seen does not have the same keel design as
>mine.
>
>Rick
>
>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > Based on postings to this list over the years, Mary Lou 's comments reflect
> > my own understanding of the difference between the diamond board and the
> > older board. It was also my understanding, possibly incorrect, that boats
> > coming from the plant as refurbished boats have the diamond boards
> > installed
> > so it is possible that the date of original construction might not always
> > reflect which board is installed.
> >
> > I have the original rudder style board that drops into the keel and rotates
> > on a pin. The centerboard housing cap is removable allowing the centreboard
> > to be lifted out. Very early boats did not have a removable cap so removing
> > the centreboard was a much more involved process. My understanding, and I
> > stand to be corrected, is that this installation and pivot pin arrangement
> > is the same for the traditional centreboard and the diamond board.
> >
> > My view is that the diamond board is a refinement that would allow for
> > slightly improved performance for those who have the knowledge and skill to
> > take advantage of such things. While I would choose the diamond board in
> > theory, I would definitely give much greater weight to selecting a boat
> > that
> > had been maintained in good condition and had the comfort features that I
> > wanted.
> >
> > I would be very reluctant about beaching the R22 regardless of the
> > centerboard used. I don't think the board makes any difference to how the
> > boat is launched from or retrieved onto the trailer.
> >
> > In the final analysis, the for the authoritative answer about such matters
> > you need to ask Stan.
> >
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Mary Lou Troy
> > Sent: May 9, 2016 11:11 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> >
> > Not sure what the difference in beachability (I wouldn't do it with an R22)
> > trailerability would be. Both have a slot for the centerboard. the diamond
> > board as far as I know is just an improved design for the centerboard.
> >
> > BTW, Fretless is a 1991 with a diamondboard. We actually thought she was a
> > centerboard boat when we bought her. It wasn't until we saw her up in
> > slings
> > for bottom painting that we learned she had the diamondboard.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 Fretless (recycled 1998)
> > Soon to be offered for sale
> > I'll have a post to the board about it in the next few days Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > At 10:11 AM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
> > >Mine is a '93 with a diamond board.  It was about 1990 the change was
> > made.
> > >
> > >The diamond board has a few advantages over the centerboard.  With a
> > >pivot instead of a pin, it is easier to maintain and leak-free.  The
> > >main benefit is structural in that the boat is beachable and
> > >trailerable without concern for the shoal keel.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list <
> > >rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oliver:
> > > >      My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard
> > > > centerboard. As I understand (from Stan) the same effect as that
> > > > provided by the "Diamond Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying
> > > > an old one about three quarters down. So, I do that. I don't know if
> > > > it works (really) because I am not that savvy of a sailor. However,
> > > > I trust Stan on any matter referring to his boat's performance.  So,
> > > > there you have it.  Almost any question can be answered by checking
> > > > on the "list"s archives."  Good luck getting your Rhodes.
> > > >
> > > >      By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about
> > > > the R-22.  Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been
> > > > engineered to maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a
> > > > dream and cuts a dashing image on water, even on the hard.  Almost
> > > > every time I launch, someone pulls into the marina and asks what
> > > > kind of boat I have. It caught their eyes as they drove past. Then,
> > > > they spend some time eying her up from many angles and showering me
> > > > with questions and flattering comments. Couple of years ago, a guy
> > > > approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really awe-struck). "Ah,
> > > > this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never actually
> > > > seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and it
> > > > warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.  It can't provide sex.  But,
> > Stan's probably working on that.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Camp
> > > > s/v John Dawson
> > > > Bohemia River, MD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
> > > >  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >  Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
> > > >  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> > > >
> > > > I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related
> > questions:
> > > >
> > > > What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the
> > > > diamond shape?
> > > >
> > > > Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory
> > > > recycling process?
> > > >
> > > > I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull
> > > > pendant and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a
> > > > difference have owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Olivier
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > > >
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From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Wed May 11 12:45:04 2016
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 10:45:04 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+C12DF+HODAHhGcHPSpn9xFxDH=bw4-+EHdqVmnRQxYfg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Rhodies,
I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be soliciting a lot
of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my family
from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or by a beach
somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then I go back and get
them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay gone
about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's neighborhood), and
Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it available to
get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.

I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long trips,
however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric start Honda 9.9
x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this case I
will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I can't really
just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does anyone have any neat
tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to lift a motor
into the cockpit/cabin for travel?

I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so leaving it
tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.


Patrick Riley
Lakewood, CO
s/v Cleone

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Wed May 11 13:22:20 2016
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:22:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip
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Patrick,

I have no neat tricks.  When I recently towed my Rhodes 22 from Edenton home to Connecticut, I just left the motor on the transom, and I plan to continue this practice in the future.  Stan?s crew tied it off to the aft railing and then lowered it some, so that some of the weight was supported by the railing, and some by the motor lift.  I have an 8 HP Mercury.  I don?t recall the exact weight, but it?s close to 100 lbs.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels


> On May 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Rhodies,
> I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be soliciting a lot
> of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my family
> from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or by a beach
> somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then I go back and get
> them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay gone
> about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's neighborhood), and
> Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it available to
> get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.
> 
> I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long trips,
> however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric start Honda 9.9
> x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this case I
> will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I can't really
> just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does anyone have any neat
> tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to lift a motor
> into the cockpit/cabin for travel?
> 
> I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so leaving it
> tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.
> 
> 
> Patrick Riley
> Lakewood, CO
> s/v Cleone
> __________________________________________________
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From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Wed May 11 14:47:16 2016
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:47:16 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip
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Thanks Peter.  I usually strap my motor from between the rear cleat and a
stern rail mount point.  This lifts a little and keeps it from bouncing.
Taking some of the vertical weight on the stern rail is a good idea that I
will also incorporate.
Patrick

Patrick Riley
Lakewood, CO
s/v Cleone

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I have no neat tricks.  When I recently towed my Rhodes 22 from Edenton
> home to Connecticut, I just left the motor on the transom, and I plan to
> continue this practice in the future.  Stan?s crew tied it off to the aft
> railing and then lowered it some, so that some of the weight was supported
> by the railing, and some by the motor lift.  I have an 8 HP Mercury.  I
> don?t recall the exact weight, but it?s close to 100 lbs.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels
>
>
> > On May 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rhodies,
> > I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be soliciting a
> lot
> > of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my family
> > from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or by a beach
> > somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then I go back and get
> > them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay gone
> > about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's neighborhood),
> and
> > Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it available
> to
> > get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.
> >
> > I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long trips,
> > however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric start Honda
> 9.9
> > x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this case I
> > will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I can't really
> > just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does anyone have any neat
> > tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to lift a
> motor
> > into the cockpit/cabin for travel?
> >
> > I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so leaving it
> > tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.
> >
> >
> > Patrick Riley
> > Lakewood, CO
> > s/v Cleone
> > __________________________________________________
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> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed May 11 14:46:55 2016
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 18:46:55 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+C12DF+HODAHhGcHPSpn9xFxDH=bw4-+EHdqVmnRQxYfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Patrick,
I've got pretty much same motor on my boat.  I used to pull it off the transom for towing, but do not anymore.  I try to support it some by hooking a strap under it and trying it to the stern eyes.  A strap around the stern railing might be another option.  As long as you have enough tongue weight, I would think it could remain on the transom. - rob

Rob Lowe

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of PBR
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:45 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip

Hello Rhodies,
I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be soliciting a lot of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my family from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or by a beach somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then I go back and get them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay gone about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's neighborhood), and Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it available to get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.

I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long trips, however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric start Honda 9.9 x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this case I will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I can't really just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does anyone have any neat tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to lift a motor into the cockpit/cabin for travel?

I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so leaving it tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.


Patrick Riley
Lakewood, CO
s/v Cleone
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Wed May 11 14:56:54 2016
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:56:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip
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I agree with Patrick - leave the motor in the up position on the bracket
and add a line to the aft rail for extra support. Have towed many Rhodes 22
miles like this and not had a problem. Besides you'll probably do more
damage to your motor trying to get in on/off the bracket

I prefer to strap the boat down on the trailer as well

Good luck

S.V Waif



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Peter.  I usually strap my motor from between the rear cleat and a
> stern rail mount point.  This lifts a little and keeps it from bouncing.
> Taking some of the vertical weight on the stern rail is a good idea that I
> will also incorporate.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Riley
> Lakewood, CO
> s/v Cleone
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Patrick,
> >
> > I have no neat tricks.  When I recently towed my Rhodes 22 from Edenton
> > home to Connecticut, I just left the motor on the transom, and I plan to
> > continue this practice in the future.  Stan?s crew tied it off to the aft
> > railing and then lowered it some, so that some of the weight was
> supported
> > by the railing, and some by the motor lift.  I have an 8 HP Mercury.  I
> > don?t recall the exact weight, but it?s close to 100 lbs.
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels
> >
> >
> > > On May 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rhodies,
> > > I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be soliciting a
> > lot
> > > of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my family
> > > from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or by a beach
> > > somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then I go back and
> get
> > > them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay gone
> > > about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's neighborhood),
> > and
> > > Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it available
> > to
> > > get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.
> > >
> > > I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long trips,
> > > however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric start Honda
> > 9.9
> > > x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this case I
> > > will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I can't really
> > > just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does anyone have any
> neat
> > > tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to lift a
> > motor
> > > into the cockpit/cabin for travel?
> > >
> > > I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so leaving
> it
> > > tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Riley
> > > Lakewood, CO
> > > s/v Cleone
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >
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> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >
> __________________________________________________
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>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Wed May 11 15:33:12 2016
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:33:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip - aft strap tiedowns
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 <8259EC22-D6C9-43A1-98E2-50D294F7EFA8@sunnybeeches.com>
 <CAJGJx+AGGn6eEp3AvwP-JQ_yUnu7z75UKJXsVokNWKGVv8x36Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZPHC8kb68GV4=mv1beB-L19xoXe6sRctywyDJcRYvVYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d1abbb$f4eb2420$dec16c60$@ca>

This last post raises the question of whether the boat should be strapped down at the aft when being towed. A few years back this question came up and I was surprised to see that a number of experienced Rodies were adamant that straps should not be used citing all sorts of horrible things that might happen. However, in the video that Peter posted a few weeks ago of him picking up his new boat at  the factory I noticed that straps were being used. That settles the debate in my mind. I am going with the straps.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Beytagh
Sent: May 11, 2016 2:57 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip

I agree with Patrick - leave the motor in the up position on the bracket and add a line to the aft rail for extra support. Have towed many Rhodes 22 miles like this and not had a problem. Besides you'll probably do more damage to your motor trying to get in on/off the bracket

I prefer to strap the boat down on the trailer as well

Good luck

S.V Waif



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Peter.  I usually strap my motor from between the rear cleat 
> and a stern rail mount point.  This lifts a little and keeps it from bouncing.
> Taking some of the vertical weight on the stern rail is a good idea 
> that I will also incorporate.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Riley
> Lakewood, CO
> s/v Cleone
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Peter Nyberg 
> <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Patrick,
> >
> > I have no neat tricks.  When I recently towed my Rhodes 22 from 
> > Edenton home to Connecticut, I just left the motor on the transom, 
> > and I plan to continue this practice in the future.  Stan?s crew 
> > tied it off to the aft railing and then lowered it some, so that 
> > some of the weight was
> supported
> > by the railing, and some by the motor lift.  I have an 8 HP Mercury.  
> > I don?t recall the exact weight, but it?s close to 100 lbs.
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels
> >
> >
> > > On May 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rhodies,
> > > I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be 
> > > soliciting a
> > lot
> > > of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my 
> > > family from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or 
> > > by a beach somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then 
> > > I go back and
> get
> > > them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay 
> > > gone about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's 
> > > neighborhood),
> > and
> > > Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it 
> > > available
> > to
> > > get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.
> > >
> > > I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long 
> > > trips, however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric 
> > > start Honda
> > 9.9
> > > x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this 
> > > case I will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I 
> > > can't really just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does 
> > > anyone have any
> neat
> > > tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to 
> > > lift a
> > motor
> > > into the cockpit/cabin for travel?
> > >
> > > I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so 
> > > leaving
> it
> > > tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Riley
> > > Lakewood, CO
> > > s/v Cleone
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > > archives
> > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed May 11 15:42:48 2016
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 19:42:48 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip - aft strap tiedowns
In-Reply-To: <000301d1abbb$f4eb2420$dec16c60$@ca>
References: <CAJGJx+C12DF+HODAHhGcHPSpn9xFxDH=bw4-+EHdqVmnRQxYfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <8259EC22-D6C9-43A1-98E2-50D294F7EFA8@sunnybeeches.com>
 <CAJGJx+AGGn6eEp3AvwP-JQ_yUnu7z75UKJXsVokNWKGVv8x36Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Graham,
Add to what the factory does, I think most state laws require you to strap your boat to the trailer.  I know Virginia does.  Now Rummy was adamant that you didn't need to because straps wouldn't do any good in case of a wreck.  But I really didn't want to explain to the cops that Rummy knew more about it than the law did! - rob



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:33 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip - aft strap tiedowns

This last post raises the question of whether the boat should be strapped down at the aft when being towed. A few years back this question came up and I was surprised to see that a number of experienced Rodies were adamant that straps should not be used citing all sorts of horrible things that might happen. However, in the video that Peter posted a few weeks ago of him picking up his new boat at  the factory I noticed that straps were being used. That settles the debate in my mind. I am going with the straps.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Beytagh
Sent: May 11, 2016 2:57 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip

I agree with Patrick - leave the motor in the up position on the bracket and add a line to the aft rail for extra support. Have towed many Rhodes 22 miles like this and not had a problem. Besides you'll probably do more damage to your motor trying to get in on/off the bracket

I prefer to strap the boat down on the trailer as well

Good luck

S.V Waif



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:47 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Peter.  I usually strap my motor from between the rear cleat 
> and a stern rail mount point.  This lifts a little and keeps it from bouncing.
> Taking some of the vertical weight on the stern rail is a good idea 
> that I will also incorporate.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Riley
> Lakewood, CO
> s/v Cleone
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Peter Nyberg 
> <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Patrick,
> >
> > I have no neat tricks.  When I recently towed my Rhodes 22 from 
> > Edenton home to Connecticut, I just left the motor on the transom, 
> > and I plan to continue this practice in the future.  Stan?s crew 
> > tied it off to the aft railing and then lowered it some, so that 
> > some of the weight was
> supported
> > by the railing, and some by the motor lift.  I have an 8 HP Mercury.  
> > I don?t recall the exact weight, but it?s close to 100 lbs.
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels
> >
> >
> > > On May 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rhodies,
> > > I am planning a long trip this summer and will probably be 
> > > soliciting a
> > lot
> > > of advice.  This is the first.  Typically each summer I drive my 
> > > family from Denver to the East Coast and leave them with family or 
> > > by a beach somewhere while I fly home to work a week or two, then 
> > > I go back and
> get
> > > them.  This year I am going to take an extended vacation and stay 
> > > gone about 4 weeks.  Going to hit Virginia Beach, OBX (Stan's 
> > > neighborhood),
> > and
> > > Chincoteague.  So I am planning to tow the Rhodes and have it 
> > > available
> > to
> > > get on the water for short day sails and a little exploring.
> > >
> > > I had always planned to remove my motor from the boat for long 
> > > trips, however I had planned to just wrestle my oversized electric 
> > > start Honda
> > 9.9
> > > x-long shaft (110 lbs) into the back of a pickup truck.  In this 
> > > case I will be towing with an SUV so that is not an option.  I 
> > > can't really just lift it into the cockpit.  The question - does 
> > > anyone have any
> neat
> > > tricks maybe using a halyard or topping lift/boom/mainsheet to 
> > > lift a
> > motor
> > > into the cockpit/cabin for travel?
> > >
> > > I will have a stabilizing hitch, towing with a pathfinder, so 
> > > leaving
> it
> > > tightly strapped to the transom may be OK too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Riley
> > > Lakewood, CO
> > > s/v Cleone
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > > archives
> > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Wed May 11 16:13:14 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Mweisner)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 16:13:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip - aft strap tiedowns
In-Reply-To: <000301d1abbb$f4eb2420$dec16c60$@ca>
References: <CAJGJx+C12DF+HODAHhGcHPSpn9xFxDH=bw4-+EHdqVmnRQxYfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <8259EC22-D6C9-43A1-98E2-50D294F7EFA8@sunnybeeches.com>
 <CAJGJx+AGGn6eEp3AvwP-JQ_yUnu7z75UKJXsVokNWKGVv8x36Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZPHC8kb68GV4=mv1beB-L19xoXe6sRctywyDJcRYvVYA@mail.gmail.com>
 <000301d1abbb$f4eb2420$dec16c60$@ca>
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I agree wholeheartedly. If the bunks get wet, each bounce can reposition the hull. In a few cases, the winch line broke and the boat slid back quite a way on the bunks. While I doubt that the boat would fall off, it will reduce the tongue weight and make the rig unstable at higher speeds. Please use nice wide straps. 

Mike
s/v Wind Lass, '91

> On May 11, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> This last post raises the question of whether the boat should be strapped down at the aft when being towed. A few years back this question came up and I was surprised to see that a number of experienced Rodies were adamant that straps should not be used citing all sorts of horrible things that might happen. However, in the video that Peter posted a few weeks ago of him picking up his new boat at  the factory I noticed that straps were being used. That settles the debate in my mind. I am going with the straps.
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada



From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Wed May 11 16:20:22 2016
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 16:20:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip - aft strap tiedowns
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References: <CAJGJx+C12DF+HODAHhGcHPSpn9xFxDH=bw4-+EHdqVmnRQxYfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CB250A3B-9BAA-4210-9A5F-64E04CBB3C60@sunnybeeches.com>

Just in case there?s someone on the list who is planning to pick up a boat in Edenton soon, note that while Stan?s crew does strongly recommend straps, GB does not provide straps.  I happened to already own the wide cargo straps I used, and brought them with me in my ?just in case? box.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels

From Marc at babineauins.com  Wed May 11 16:57:54 2016
From: Marc at babineauins.com (Mrbabs)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:57:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
In-Reply-To: <1701203286.1056256.1462802133872.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <0909BA88-F6AB-4DE0-99BD-1EADF1245D26@earthlink.net>
 <1701203286.1056256.1462802133872.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1463000274625-52000.post@n5.nabble.com>

"It can't provide sex.  But,  Stan's probably working on that."

That issue has been solved for those who buy a new, never been recycled,
Rhodes, paying full price and including the Certificate of Support.

Please don't ask any questions as I am not at liberty to disclose details. 

 



-----
Marc B.
s/v Baby Steps 
Westminster MA
Sailing Narragansett Bay

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From stan at rhodes22.com  Wed May 11 18:34:24 2016
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 18:34:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
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Message-ID: <5733B370.5000608@rhodes22.com>


Since this part of the cat is already partly out of that bag, I will 
expand on it a bit:

The Rhodes has no quarter berths.  The reason is that to me they are 
coffins; as is sleeping in the V berth.  Rose is like a cat and purrs, 
sleeping curled in the V berth.  She invited me to join her one night in 
her coffin quarters.  And I have to report:

There is sex after death.

ss

On 5/11/16 4:57 PM, Mrbabs wrote:
> "It can't provide sex.  But,  Stan's probably working on that."
>
> That issue has been solved for those who buy a new, never been recycled,
> Rhodes, paying full price and including the Certificate of Support.
>
> Please don't ask any questions as I am not at liberty to disclose details.
>
>   
>
>
>
> -----
> Marc B.
> s/v Baby Steps
> Westminster MA
> Sailing Narragansett Bay
>
> --
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From dwbrad at gmail.com  Wed May 11 19:32:45 2016
From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 19:32:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long Road Trip - aft strap tiedowns
In-Reply-To: <CB250A3B-9BAA-4210-9A5F-64E04CBB3C60@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <CAJGJx+C12DF+HODAHhGcHPSpn9xFxDH=bw4-+EHdqVmnRQxYfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <8259EC22-D6C9-43A1-98E2-50D294F7EFA8@sunnybeeches.com>
 <CAJGJx+AGGn6eEp3AvwP-JQ_yUnu7z75UKJXsVokNWKGVv8x36Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZPHC8kb68GV4=mv1beB-L19xoXe6sRctywyDJcRYvVYA@mail.gmail.com>
 <000301d1abbb$f4eb2420$dec16c60$@ca>
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Message-ID: <ABFADD3E-8651-4736-A051-C29D808C8DF1@gmail.com>

My boat has been back and forth between NC and CT twice, and on a trailer to Seattle, WA once, always towed by Elton with the motor on the transom in vertical/raised position with a safety line or two.  Never a problem.

(She came back from Seattle on a flatbed?  )

Dave B

> On May 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> Just in case there?s someone on the list who is planning to pick up a boat in Edenton soon, note that while Stan?s crew does strongly recommend straps, GB does not provide straps.  I happened to already own the wide cargo straps I used, and brought them with me in my ?just in case? box.
> 
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Wed May 11 19:56:13 2016
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 23:56:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
In-Reply-To: <5733B370.5000608@rhodes22.com>
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Message-ID: <SN1PR18MB03826FF4556651A0F26BDC63D9720@SN1PR18MB0382.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

TMI

Sent from my iPhone

Charles 

> On May 11, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since this part of the cat is already partly out of that bag, I will expand on it a bit:
> 
> The Rhodes has no quarter berths.  The reason is that to me they are coffins; as is sleeping in the V berth.  Rose is like a cat and purrs, sleeping curled in the V berth.  She invited me to join her one night in her coffin quarters.  And I have to report:
> 
> There is sex after death.
> 
> ss
> 
>> On 5/11/16 4:57 PM, Mrbabs wrote:
>> "It can't provide sex.  But,  Stan's probably working on that."
>> 
>> That issue has been solved for those who buy a new, never been recycled,
>> Rhodes, paying full price and including the Certificate of Support.
>> 
>> Please don't ask any questions as I am not at liberty to disclose details.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Marc B.
>> s/v Baby Steps
>> Westminster MA
>> Sailing Narragansett Bay
>> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed May 11 20:46:45 2016
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 20:46:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
In-Reply-To: <5733B370.5000608@rhodes22.com>
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too funny!

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Since this part of the cat is already partly out of that bag, I will
> expand on it a bit:
>
> The Rhodes has no quarter berths.  The reason is that to me they are
> coffins; as is sleeping in the V berth.  Rose is like a cat and purrs,
> sleeping curled in the V berth.  She invited me to join her one night in
> her coffin quarters.  And I have to report:
>
> There is sex after death.
>
> ss
>
>
> On 5/11/16 4:57 PM, Mrbabs wrote:
>
>> "It can't provide sex.  But,  Stan's probably working on that."
>>
>> That issue has been solved for those who buy a new, never been recycled,
>> Rhodes, paying full price and including the Certificate of Support.
>>
>> Please don't ask any questions as I am not at liberty to disclose details.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Marc B.
>> s/v Baby Steps
>> Westminster MA
>> Sailing Narragansett Bay
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Change-to-diamond-shaped-CB-tp51978p52000.html
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From colealexander at hotmail.com  Thu May 12 13:19:13 2016
From: colealexander at hotmail.com (Alexander Cole)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 17:19:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB? (Olivier Hecht)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.127.1462995771.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.127.1462995771.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <COL129-W2EDE643DC61A95BF3A4D8A6730@phx.gbl>

With absolutely no disrespect for Stan's website, and at the risk of arguing theory with a real engineer:    
A more traditional centerboard like Philip Rhodes originally drew, or even higher aspect  foils used by others probably are slightly more efficient at speed, in terms of boat speed and pointing (generates windward lift).   At the hull speed of a 20 foot waterline I believe the effect is insignificant.    They are very long and narrow on modern racing boats.  I had theorized the diamond board  was introduced after Stan moved production to the Albemarle sound.   The water is thin and has a reputation for snags.   I found a Cyprus stump while renting a boat.  I felt nothing but the boat stopped moving and began to weathercock.  I lifted the centerboard and was free.   I assumed that Stan's experiences with inexperienced boaters not used to the local waters had biased him toward a more robust and forgiving board.   To me that was a positive.   Many guys with big boats seldom travel 100 miles from their berth and touching bottom with a bolt on keel is indication to pull the boat and inspect.   As a trailer sailor, new water is part of our math.  Feel free to tell me to avoid nautical engineering and stick to my day job Stan.   
 
I also love Stan's philosophy of rebuilding old boats.   Not only because I'm frugal and environmental, but because a builder that designs his own product to be rebuilt by his own workers will pay attention to accessibility.    I don't doubt he engineered for reliability benefits.   This beats several boats where you need a hoist if the weighted keel's winch cable breaks.   A robust and low maintenance design was part of my specifications when looking for a boat.  No iron or steel centerboards (pivoting keels) were considered.   Stan's endless refinement solved 'new model' bugs decades ago.   There is only one other weakness of the Rhodes.  It really doesn't perform at its best when winds are < 1 mph and variable.   ?
 
Alex Cole
SV Lark


 		 	   		  

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu May 12 13:28:32 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 13:28:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB? (Olivier Hecht)
In-Reply-To: <COL129-W2EDE643DC61A95BF3A4D8A6730@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.127.1462995771.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
 <COL129-W2EDE643DC61A95BF3A4D8A6730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003c01d1ac73$b6495210$22dbf630$@com>

At speeds < 1 mph, Stan has provided the v-berth, at least it works for him.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Cole
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:19 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB? (Olivier Hecht)

With absolutely no disrespect for Stan's website, and at the risk of arguing theory with a real engineer:    
A more traditional centerboard like Philip Rhodes originally drew, or even higher aspect  foils used by others probably are slightly more efficient at speed, in terms of boat speed and pointing (generates windward lift).   At the hull speed of a 20 foot waterline I believe the effect is insignificant.    They are very long and narrow on modern racing boats.  I had theorized the diamond board  was introduced after Stan moved production to the Albemarle sound.   The water is thin and has a reputation for snags.   I found a Cyprus stump while renting a boat.  I felt nothing but the boat stopped moving and began to weathercock.  I lifted the centerboard and was free.   I assumed that Stan's experiences with inexperienced boaters not used to the local waters had biased him toward a more robust and forgiving board.   To me that was a positive.   Many guys with big boats seldom travel 100 miles from their berth and touching bottom with a bolt on keel is indication to pull the boat and inspect.   As a trailer sailor, new water is part of our math.  Feel free to tell me to avoid nautical engineering and stick to my day job Stan.   
 
I also love Stan's philosophy of rebuilding old boats.   Not only because I'm frugal and environmental, but because a builder that designs his own product to be rebuilt by his own workers will pay attention to accessibility.    I don't doubt he engineered for reliability benefits.   This beats several boats where you need a hoist if the weighted keel's winch cable breaks.   A robust and low maintenance design was part of my specifications when looking for a boat.  No iron or steel centerboards (pivoting keels) were considered.   Stan's endless refinement solved 'new model' bugs decades ago.   There is only one other weakness of the Rhodes.  It really doesn't perform at its best when winds are < 1 mph and variable.   ?
 
Alex Cole
SV Lark


 		 	   		  
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Thu May 12 14:54:31 2016
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:54:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB? (Olivier Hecht)
In-Reply-To: <003c01d1ac73$b6495210$22dbf630$@com>
References: <COL129-W2EDE643DC61A95BF3A4D8A6730@phx.gbl>
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Unfortunately I was sailing alone yesterday. 



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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu May 12 15:17:30 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Mike Weisner)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 15:17:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB? (Olivier Hecht)
In-Reply-To: <1463079271447-52007.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <COL129-W2EDE643DC61A95BF3A4D8A6730@phx.gbl>
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Ah, the pleasure and the pain of single-handed sailing.

Yes, all puns are intended. 

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)

> On May 12, 2016, at 2:54 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I was sailing alone yesterday. 
> 
> 
> 
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From lastmango68 at gmail.com  Thu May 12 18:48:03 2016
From: lastmango68 at gmail.com (Lance Horne)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 18:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
In-Reply-To: <5733B370.5000608@rhodes22.com>
References: <0909BA88-F6AB-4DE0-99BD-1EADF1245D26@earthlink.net>
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Message-ID: <F3A2A17E-8181-471E-8749-C8D8CE2CB853@gmail.com>

Now your talking Stan!   lance+
> On May 11, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since this part of the cat is already partly out of that bag, I will expand on it a bit:
> 
> The Rhodes has no quarter berths.  The reason is that to me they are coffins; as is sleeping in the V berth.  Rose is like a cat and purrs, sleeping curled in the V berth.  She invited me to join her one night in her coffin quarters.  And I have to report:
> 
> There is sex after death.
> 
> ss
> 
> On 5/11/16 4:57 PM, Mrbabs wrote:
>> "It can't provide sex.  But,  Stan's probably working on that."
>> 
>> That issue has been solved for those who buy a new, never been recycled,
>> Rhodes, paying full price and including the Certificate of Support.
>> 
>> Please don't ask any questions as I am not at liberty to disclose details.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Marc B.
>> s/v Baby Steps
>> Westminster MA
>> Sailing Narragansett Bay
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Change-to-diamond-shaped-CB-tp51978p52000.html
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From bridges.brooks at gmail.com  Fri May 13 22:26:53 2016
From: bridges.brooks at gmail.com (thebooker)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 19:26:53 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tour YouTube Video
In-Reply-To: <1462283985339-51953.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <4F76EF43-48DB-482D-842C-3DE1E2BD6EA4@sunnybeeches.com>
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Message-ID: <1463192813069-52010.post@n5.nabble.com>

Re: Battery wiring my '86 refurbished 2006.

I tested and my battery switch is wired correctly, but its output supplies
only Circuit Breaker panel loads. So you can switch so these loads are from
either front or rear battery or combined. My batteries are different ages
and brands and maybe different types so I try to avoid the combined
position. I'd like to know whether Stan had a reason or someone just goofed.

I'm going to check for that manual motor lift option. Even though I have a
light electric motor (Torqeedo 1003) I'd hate to have it stuck in up
position when I really need it (or can I just cut webbing in an emergency?).

Brooks Bridges
sv "Changes"
Cambridge, MD



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From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Tue May 17 12:46:10 2016
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:46:10 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Android Apps
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>

I have seen a few discussions about Nautical Navigation Apps for ipad,
iphone.  Is anyone having good experience with any Apps for android
phones?  I have a Samsung Galaxy Notes 4, but I generally just use it as a
phone and for email.

Patrick Riley
Lakewood, CO
s/v Cleone

From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Tue May 17 13:24:58 2016
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (James Nichols)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:24:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Android Apps
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <120809124.3660909.1463505899122.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

SeaIQ had been around for a long time and it allows you to import pretty much any chart you want, ?rastor or vector.?
It also talks to NMEA 2000, so if you have a NMEA 2000 to WiFi bridge, you can see your NMEA 2000 instruments on you Android or apple device. ?
Also, ?if you have a handheld GPS that supports Bluetooth you can use the GPS to provide you better GPS than your phone is capable of doing on its own.?
JamesStill unnamed.?
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:46 AM, PBR<pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:   I have seen a few discussions about Nautical Navigation Apps for ipad,
iphone.? Is anyone having good experience with any Apps for android
phones?? I have a Samsung Galaxy Notes 4, but I generally just use it as a
phone and for email.

Patrick Riley
Lakewood, CO
s/v Cleone
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From boendert at me.com  Tue May 17 15:32:52 2016
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:32:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Android Apps
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <883E9C19-C240-4F11-9CD4-CD5486E70AE4@me.com>

Navionics makes app for iOS and android. 

I wouldn't leave home without it. 

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER 
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On May 17, 2016, at 12:46 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have seen a few discussions about Nautical Navigation Apps for ipad,
> iphone.  Is anyone having good experience with any Apps for android
> phones?  I have a Samsung Galaxy Notes 4, but I generally just use it as a
> phone and for email.
> 
> Patrick Riley
> Lakewood, CO
> s/v Cleone
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Tue May 17 16:07:15 2016
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:07:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Android Apps
In-Reply-To: <883E9C19-C240-4F11-9CD4-CD5486E70AE4@me.com>
References: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <auto-000166128664@smtp01.cluster1.echolabs.net>

We just downloaded Navionics for an Android tablet - the $50 one with 
all the charts. Saw something about in the write-up that it was not 
for phones. Maybe there's a another verson for phones. I know that 
Fred used to have a $10 version on his old phone but that was a quite 
a few years ago.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Recycled 1998


At 03:32 PM 5/17/2016, you wrote:
>Navionics makes app for iOS and android.
>
>I wouldn't leave home without it.
>
>Cheers,
>Ted
>
>S/V AIRPOWER
>1991/2013 R22
>Jacksonville, FL
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 2016, at 12:46 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have seen a few discussions about Nautical Navigation Apps for ipad,
> > iphone.  Is anyone having good experience with any Apps for android
> > phones?  I have a Samsung Galaxy Notes 4, but I generally just use it as a
> > phone and for email.
> >
> > Patrick Riley
> > Lakewood, CO
> > s/v Cleone
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed May 18 11:45:58 2016
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 11:45:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Navionics and Change in plans
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVbZsqipNEKOwXRsMfmxjr2VdZiJM2=9SA5DUdCBpJQkA@mail.gmail.com>

We have Navionics on our iPad.  We have used it to navigate up and down the
coast of B.C. and the San Juan Islands, Lake Mead, and the Sea of Cortez.
It is an easy program to use and seems very reliable.  It was recommended
by another Rhodie and he was spot on.  Even though we just bought a
Catalina 387 with a chart plotter and c-map chips; we still bought the
charts (Explorer) for the Bahamas for the Navionics App as backup and may
use it as primary too.

Chris Geankoplis
SV Enosis and SV Enosis II

P.S. Of course we are still keeping the Rhodes and we have decided to delay
shipping it over to Europe until next spring since we bought the big boat
and will be involved in getting it ready for further adventures.

From bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net  Wed May 18 12:22:18 2016
From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net (Rhodes22)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:22:18 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Navionics and Change in plans
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVbZsqipNEKOwXRsMfmxjr2VdZiJM2=9SA5DUdCBpJQkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiVbZsqipNEKOwXRsMfmxjr2VdZiJM2=9SA5DUdCBpJQkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A74EEE1D-85C1-4EE0-9C27-B48576FE6398@bellsouth.net>

Congratulations on the "big boat."  Your wonderful experiences with your Rhodes will make you quite capable of handling a "big boat."  We found that transitioning to a "big boat," in our case a 37' Tartan, was a breeze.  And coming back to the R22 was very smooth. 

Enjoy, Bob S/V "NoKaOi 3" 

Sent from my iPad

> On May 18, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We have Navionics on our iPad.  We have used it to navigate up and down the
> coast of B.C. and the San Juan Islands, Lake Mead, and the Sea of Cortez.
> It is an easy program to use and seems very reliable.  It was recommended
> by another Rhodie and he was spot on.  Even though we just bought a
> Catalina 387 with a chart plotter and c-map chips; we still bought the
> charts (Explorer) for the Bahamas for the Navionics App as backup and may
> use it as primary too.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> SV Enosis and SV Enosis II
> 
> P.S. Of course we are still keeping the Rhodes and we have decided to delay
> shipping it over to Europe until next spring since we bought the big boat
> and will be involved in getting it ready for further adventures.
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From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Wed May 18 12:28:32 2016
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (James Nichols)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 16:28:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Navionics and Change in plans
In-Reply-To: <A74EEE1D-85C1-4EE0-9C27-B48576FE6398@bellsouth.net>
References: <CADNTwiVbZsqipNEKOwXRsMfmxjr2VdZiJM2=9SA5DUdCBpJQkA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <242607030.4056742.1463588912824.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Oh, ?not sure if Navitronics offers the ability, ?but one of the things I really like about SeaIQ is that it syncs with activecaptain.com and you can use the activecaptain information even when you aren't connected to the internet for the areas you sync.?
JamesStill unnamed

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed May 18 12:42:54 2016
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:42:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Navionics and Change in plans
In-Reply-To: <A74EEE1D-85C1-4EE0-9C27-B48576FE6398@bellsouth.net>
References: <CADNTwiVbZsqipNEKOwXRsMfmxjr2VdZiJM2=9SA5DUdCBpJQkA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiVi8zrEU5ZAjX8LUz5iDiTdEnYp3j7i5=viyPgzH53NTw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Bob,
                  Any observations or suggestions you might have, you can
contact me at       chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
                  I was thinking about you when we made the purchase.  Not
many buy a bigger boat and either come back or keep the Rhodes.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Rhodes22 <bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

> Congratulations on the "big boat."  Your wonderful experiences with your
> Rhodes will make you quite capable of handling a "big boat."  We found that
> transitioning to a "big boat," in our case a 37' Tartan, was a breeze.  And
> coming back to the R22 was very smooth.
>
> Enjoy, Bob S/V "NoKaOi 3"
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On May 18, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > We have Navionics on our iPad.  We have used it to navigate up and down
> the
> > coast of B.C. and the San Juan Islands, Lake Mead, and the Sea of Cortez.
> > It is an easy program to use and seems very reliable.  It was recommended
> > by another Rhodie and he was spot on.  Even though we just bought a
> > Catalina 387 with a chart plotter and c-map chips; we still bought the
> > charts (Explorer) for the Bahamas for the Navionics App as backup and may
> > use it as primary too.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > SV Enosis and SV Enosis II
> >
> > P.S. Of course we are still keeping the Rhodes and we have decided to
> delay
> > shipping it over to Europe until next spring since we bought the big boat
> > and will be involved in getting it ready for further adventures.
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From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Thu May 19 08:46:18 2016
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 06:46:18 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Android Apps
In-Reply-To: <auto-000166128664@smtp01.cluster1.echolabs.net>
References: <CAJGJx+BREYZTGZiK+kd_hEQdfUpkQLNXgUVoWeVEwkj5g8XoUw@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the inputs.  I will try the Navionics free trial at my local
reservoir.  It looks like it will suit my purposes for location, direction,
speed, and depth.  I don't have any other electronics to sync. to, I will
just have paper charts.  The android phone version still appears to be just
$10.
-Patrick


Patrick Riley
Lakewood, CO
s/v Cleone

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> We just downloaded Navionics for an Android tablet - the $50 one with all
> the charts. Saw something about in the write-up that it was not for phones.
> Maybe there's a another verson for phones. I know that Fred used to have a
> $10 version on his old phone but that was a quite a few years ago.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Recycled 1998
>
>
>
> At 03:32 PM 5/17/2016, you wrote:
>
>> Navionics makes app for iOS and android.
>>
>> I wouldn't leave home without it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>>
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 17, 2016, at 12:46 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have seen a few discussions about Nautical Navigation Apps for ipad,
>> > iphone.  Is anyone having good experience with any Apps for android
>> > phones?  I have a Samsung Galaxy Notes 4, but I generally just use it
>> as a
>> > phone and for email.
>> >
>> > Patrick Riley
>> > Lakewood, CO
>> > s/v Cleone
>> > __________________________________________________
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu May 19 12:01:54 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:01:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
Message-ID: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have experience with the fat rigged IMF package?  I'm thinking
of upgrading to it.

Rick

From larrywallen at verizon.net  Thu May 19 19:34:32 2016
From: larrywallen at verizon.net (Larry Allen)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:34:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <154cb5edb81-730f-24a2@webprd-a38.mail.aol.com>

What's a fat rigged IMF package?


Larry
Sarasota



-----Original Message-----
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To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2016 12:02 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF

Does anyone have experience with the fat rigged IMF package?  I'm thinking
of upgrading to it.

Rick
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu May 19 21:15:44 2016
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 21:15:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
In-Reply-To: <154cb5edb81-730f-24a2@webprd-a38.mail.aol.com>
References: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AC037C5B-84D7-4DF4-A551-065AF9371270@sunnybeeches.com>

I?ll guess that what Rick might be referring to is that an IMF mast is ?fatter? than a non-IMF mast.  I?ve never seen a non-IMF mast, so I couldn?t say from personal experience, but it seems likely that would be true.

I have also not yet sailed my newly recycled R22, but I?ve spent many hours ready the list archives.  I can?t recall a single instance of someone with the IMF system wishing they had the standard mast instead.  The IMF system can of course experience mechanical failures of one sort or another, but reports of this are infrequent.

There?s a bit of info in the FAQ area: http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/topics.html#I <http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/topics.html#I>  Look under the subject of ?Mast?.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels


> On May 19, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Larry Allen <larrywallen at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> What's a fat rigged IMF package?
> 
> 
> Larry
> Sarasota
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, May 19, 2016 12:02 pm
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
> 
> Does anyone have experience with the fat rigged IMF package?  I'm thinking
> of upgrading to it.
> 
> Rick
> __________________________________________________
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Fri May 20 13:45:17 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 13:45:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
In-Reply-To: <154cb5edb81-730f-24a2@webprd-a38.mail.aol.com>
References: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABkv36ZNnqjHhEHXhAgvzAny2+AHQRbRNZ9X=JJLCEG3D3=ipg@mail.gmail.com>

Fat may refer more to price than mast diameter.  Here's what it is from
Stan's website.

The package contents include: The new style IMF mast

top.  The big bail-fitted boom.  The new increased sail area IMF Sally Sail
Main.  The new back

stays and stern rail tweaking.  And the new movable dual position stern
rail/front cockpit

traveler location sailing options.


Rick

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Larry Allen <larrywallen at verizon.net>
wrote:

> What's a fat rigged IMF package?
>
>
> Larry
> Sarasota
>
>

From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Fri May 20 14:40:13 2016
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 14:40:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36ZNnqjHhEHXhAgvzAny2+AHQRbRNZ9X=JJLCEG3D3=ipg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <F7C58D7D-D1FE-4E01-8939-78B67542A0A5@gmail.com>

Is the mast step larger?
Bob (palatka)

> On May 20, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fat may refer more to price than mast diameter.  Here's what it is from
> Stan's website.
> 
> The package contents include: The new style IMF mast
> 
> top.  The big bail-fitted boom.  The new increased sail area IMF Sally Sail
> Main.  The new back
> 
> stays and stern rail tweaking.  And the new movable dual position stern
> rail/front cockpit
> 
> traveler location sailing options.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Larry Allen <larrywallen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> What's a fat rigged IMF package?
>> 
>> 
>> Larry
>> Sarasota
> __________________________________________________
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From snstaum at gmail.com  Fri May 20 16:02:47 2016
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 16:02:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36ZNnqjHhEHXhAgvzAny2+AHQRbRNZ9X=JJLCEG3D3=ipg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3C35A1CC-D9B1-42B5-984C-D442473A2340@gmail.com>

How much does it cost?

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2 
Needham, MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fat may refer more to price than mast diameter.  Here's what it is from
> Stan's website.
> 
> The package contents include: The new style IMF mast
> 
> top.  The big bail-fitted boom.  The new increased sail area IMF Sally Sail
> Main.  The new back
> 
> stays and stern rail tweaking.  And the new movable dual position stern
> rail/front cockpit
> 
> traveler location sailing options.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Larry Allen <larrywallen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> What's a fat rigged IMF package?
>> 
>> 
>> Larry
>> Sarasota
> __________________________________________________
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sat May 21 21:24:57 2016
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 21:24:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] C-Head Installation Video
Message-ID: <FF2ABF0F-FC06-41BF-AE6C-6ECBCE435C63@sunnybeeches.com>

Over the course of the long winter, while researching every topic I could think of related to owning a Rhodes 22, I became interested in marine composting toilets.  The brands that are most commonly mentioned are Air Head and Natures Head.  These units are quite similar in design, and both are about 21? tall.  According to the archives, Stan did manage to fit one of these into a Rhodes 22 at some point, but when I brought up the subject during our visit to GB last November, he pretty firmly discouraged me from going that route.

Later I discovered a third brand in this market, the C-Head.  The design of this unit is different in several respects, and a variety of models are offered, including a recently introduced ?shorty? model, which is only 15? tall.  That was still too tall for the space available as the boat came to me, but I discovered that with some work the head floor could be lowered 3? to the same level as the main cabin floor. So that?s what I did.

For those interested, I made a YouTube video documenting the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emRUfhEmXfE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emRUfhEmXfE> 


I?m having fun with my R22.  I understand that they can be even more fun if you put them in the water.  I should try that soon.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels  

From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Sat May 21 21:58:43 2016
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 18:58:43 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] C-Head Installation Video
In-Reply-To: <FF2ABF0F-FC06-41BF-AE6C-6ECBCE435C63@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <FF2ABF0F-FC06-41BF-AE6C-6ECBCE435C63@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuNK-rHxxzYueESb_bFKAObeGoQ+kFdRsiYYTsj7GZMjQA@mail.gmail.com>

Try a wag- bag - available from  most marine  supply houses. None of the
hassle associated w/ Porta potti ...

Cheers,
s / v Sweet Baboo ( recycled 86 )
On May 21, 2016 6:25 PM, "Peter Nyberg" <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Over the course of the long winter, while researching every topic I could
> think of related to owning a Rhodes 22, I became interested in marine
> composting toilets.  The brands that are most commonly mentioned are Air
> Head and Natures Head.  These units are quite similar in design, and both
> are about 21? tall.  According to the archives, Stan did manage to fit one
> of these into a Rhodes 22 at some point, but when I brought up the subject
> during our visit to GB last November, he pretty firmly discouraged me from
> going that route.
>
> Later I discovered a third brand in this market, the C-Head.  The design
> of this unit is different in several respects, and a variety of models are
> offered, including a recently introduced ?shorty? model, which is only 15?
> tall.  That was still too tall for the space available as the boat came to
> me, but I discovered that with some work the head floor could be lowered 3?
> to the same level as the main cabin floor. So that?s what I did.
>
> For those interested, I made a YouTube video documenting the process:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emRUfhEmXfE <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emRUfhEmXfE>
>
>
> I?m having fun with my R22.  I understand that they can be even more fun
> if you put them in the water.  I should try that soon.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels
> __________________________________________________
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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Sun May 22 18:43:32 2016
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 15:43:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Turnbuckles
In-Reply-To: <DBE837D7-6EFE-4620-8208-307528639439@me.com>
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Ted:

The wrap pins look very easy to use and eliminate the need to tape cotter
pins.  I  found a fast release pin system a couple of years ago but they are
very expensive a oversized for our 22 foot boat.  The wrap looks like a good
option.

I sent you an email about my new fiberglass tiller I recently purchase from
Stan and will need to drill holes into the nice new fiberglass.



-----
Christopher P. Cowie      

4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]

 

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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Fri May 27 17:00:13 2016
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:00:13 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
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Welcome Steve.

When I joined a year ago my initiation was simple.  I had to testify that I
had opposing thumbs, therefore at least genus Homo, and declare my favorite
rum.

The boat fits my needs well.  I've been out a dozen times this year, on
water too cold with winds too high to single hand my Buccaneer 18.  If you
haven't sailed this 22 yet I suspect somebody down your way will volunteer a
daysail.   Otherwise road trip!

I can launch or haul out in about 2 hours.  Due to an aborted cruise, I had
a little extra practice in April.   I have the mast crane and can do it
alone.   It would take half a day to demo the boat, plus time on the water. 
Unless I was buying a cheap project I would want to inspect on the hard,
test for leaks and watch the rigging process while looking for any missing
parts.  But I bought a factory refit, so I had no worries.  

Alex Cole, Ohio



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S/V Lark
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Fri May 27 17:07:41 2016
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:07:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
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Steve,

One more thought, look the boat over and if you like it offer to pay him a
deposit for a demo, to show you are serious.   Worst case scenario, you
spend a bit of time sailing (or swimming).   




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S/V Lark
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Fri May 27 17:50:36 2016
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:50:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
In-Reply-To: <AC037C5B-84D7-4DF4-A551-065AF9371270@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <CABkv36aobMegfqdpO68wr48=zUe4zsvgNUVWJ8yOUPT=4uaP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I think fat main is the main with a vertical batten.   When mine wears out, I
want to try it.  I think it may provide a slight roach to the sail, and help
with shape?   



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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Fri May 27 19:20:43 2016
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:20:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fat Rigged IMF
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Sorry to be redundant, Rick.   I was at work between cases and failed at
speed reading.   Your answer was much more complete.   
Alex



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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri May 27 23:51:56 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:51:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
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Steve,

I hope that you are able to find a suitable R22. Stay away from boats that
have significant damage to the centerboard trunk or shoal keel area. These
projects have proven to be too much for some Rhodies.  Float tests are
desirable but not always necessary. Most older R22s that are on the hard
have been neglected and leak at various points. The most common problems are
from rain entering poorly bedded or maintained deck hardware including the
ports. This may lead to various amounts of deck softness, delamination and
loose chainplates. Such is the nature of a project boat. Inspection of the
hull is best done on land, not a float test. Look for poorly repaired
sections or damage from improper support or jacking.

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Mike
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s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY




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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat May 28 09:11:26 2016
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 09:11:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
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Mike's description of what to look out for in old Rhodes makes me think he
must have seen my boat as it is the perfect description of what can go
wrong. My boat had all of those issues and then some. Mind you, nothing that
five or six years of work can't fix.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
mweisner at ebsmed.com
Sent: May 27, 2016 11:52 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello

Steve,

I hope that you are able to find a suitable R22. Stay away from boats that
have significant damage to the centerboard trunk or shoal keel area. These
projects have proven to be too much for some Rhodies.  Float tests are
desirable but not always necessary. Most older R22s that are on the hard
have been neglected and leak at various points. The most common problems are
from rain entering poorly bedded or maintained deck hardware including the
ports. This may lead to various amounts of deck softness, delamination and
loose chainplates. Such is the nature of a project boat. Inspection of the
hull is best done on land, not a float test. Look for poorly repaired
sections or damage from improper support or jacking.

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Rhodes22.org email list.  You need to subscribe to the actual list, not just
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Mike
rhodes22.org admin
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY




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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sat May 28 09:29:39 2016
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 09:29:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
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Graham,

Indeed, I was thinking of project boats such as yours or Lou's "Miracles"
when I was cautioning Steve.  Since Steve is located in Florida, as opposed
to a northern climate in which we are forced to work on our projects in a
few short months, and has large amounts time, he may be able to cut the
rebuild time considerably from your estimate.  Then again, as much as I
enjoy the rebuilding process, I find that sailing is really what I like to
do the most.  Difficult project boats are for youngsters.  I'm going
sailing.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Graham Stewart
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello

Mike's description of what to look out for in old Rhodes makes me think he
must have seen my boat as it is the perfect description of what can go
wrong. My boat had all of those issues and then some. Mind you, nothing that
five or six years of work can't fix.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat May 28 10:05:12 2016
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 10:05:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
In-Reply-To: <04ea01d1b8e4$fdfc4e00$f9f4ea00$@ebsmed.com>
References: <1464308570622-52030.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1464407516467-52036.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <001b01d1b8e2$70cdf300$5269d900$@ca>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiV22JU0PWapBMuC4nU709m6Utbkvz9tncc3xDQUJHjDCg@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,
        I didn't see the beginning of the thread but I understand that you
are in Florida.  I'll be here for a couple of weeks with my boat "Enosis".
I've had a Rhodes for the last 40 years or so and sailed around a bit and
rebuilt a couple.  Please feel free to contact me or visit here in St.
Petersburg.  I will be heading to the Bahamas on my Rhodes or another boat
I am currently negotiating to buy.  Either way I will keep the Rhodes.

Chris Geankoplis
541-941-six, six, five, nine
chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Michael Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> Graham,
>
> Indeed, I was thinking of project boats such as yours or Lou's "Miracles"
> when I was cautioning Steve.  Since Steve is located in Florida, as opposed
> to a northern climate in which we are forced to work on our projects in a
> few short months, and has large amounts time, he may be able to cut the
> rebuild time considerably from your estimate.  Then again, as much as I
> enjoy the rebuilding process, I find that sailing is really what I like to
> do the most.  Difficult project boats are for youngsters.  I'm going
> sailing.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Graham Stewart
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:11 AM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
>
> Mike's description of what to look out for in old Rhodes makes me think he
> must have seen my boat as it is the perfect description of what can go
> wrong. My boat had all of those issues and then some. Mind you, nothing
> that
> five or six years of work can't fix.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Sat May 28 10:59:46 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 10:59:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
In-Reply-To: <1464382813772-52031.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1464308570622-52030.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1464382813772-52031.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36aKQAUSNhhc=tZAKvyQhYbaou7HDn8pB75MoM5sVVd5dg@mail.gmail.com>

Alex, where about do you sail?

Rick
On May 27, 2016 5:00 PM, "S/V Lark" <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Welcome Steve.
>
> When I joined a year ago my initiation was simple.  I had to testify that I
> had opposing thumbs, therefore at least genus Homo, and declare my favorite
> rum.
>
> The boat fits my needs well.  I've been out a dozen times this year, on
> water too cold with winds too high to single hand my Buccaneer 18.  If you
> haven't sailed this 22 yet I suspect somebody down your way will volunteer
> a
> daysail.   Otherwise road trip!
>
> I can launch or haul out in about 2 hours.  Due to an aborted cruise, I had
> a little extra practice in April.   I have the mast crane and can do it
> alone.   It would take half a day to demo the boat, plus time on the water.
> Unless I was buying a cheap project I would want to inspect on the hard,
> test for leaks and watch the rigging process while looking for any missing
> parts.  But I bought a factory refit, so I had no worries.
>
> Alex Cole, Ohio
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Sat May 28 14:15:24 2016
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 11:15:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36aKQAUSNhhc=tZAKvyQhYbaou7HDn8pB75MoM5sVVd5dg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1464459324908-52042.post@n5.nabble.com>

Rick,

I have a slip at Clarence J Brown by Springfield.  It's convenient for
daysailing.  I'll try again for a road trip this fall.  Do you know the
area?   

Alex




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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat May 28 20:29:31 2016
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:29:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
In-Reply-To: <04ea01d1b8e4$fdfc4e00$f9f4ea00$@ebsmed.com>
References: <1464308570622-52030.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1464407516467-52036.post@n5.nabble.com> <001b01d1b8e2$70cdf300$5269d900$@ca>
 <04ea01d1b8e4$fdfc4e00$f9f4ea00$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <001801d1b941$2aed42a0$80c7c7e0$@ca>

I am one of those strange ducks who actually enjoy the rebuild process -
although I would like to see the end product before I am too old to actually
use the boat. I am seriously wondering whether the rebuild will outlive me
and that is depressing to think about. Still my advice is not to get into a
serious rebuild unless you really enjoy the process. If you just want a boat
to sail, a project boat will probably defeat you both emotionally and
financially. You really have to love the challenge.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Michael Weisner
Sent: May 28, 2016 9:30 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello

Graham,

Indeed, I was thinking of project boats such as yours or Lou's "Miracles"
when I was cautioning Steve.  Since Steve is located in Florida, as opposed
to a northern climate in which we are forced to work on our projects in a
few short months, and has large amounts time, he may be able to cut the
rebuild time considerably from your estimate.  Then again, as much as I
enjoy the rebuilding process, I find that sailing is really what I like to
do the most.  Difficult project boats are for youngsters.  I'm going
sailing.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Graham Stewart
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello

Mike's description of what to look out for in old Rhodes makes me think he
must have seen my boat as it is the perfect description of what can go
wrong. My boat had all of those issues and then some. Mind you, nothing that
five or six years of work can't fix.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada


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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Sun May 29 09:56:26 2016
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 09:56:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
In-Reply-To: <001801d1b941$2aed42a0$80c7c7e0$@ca>
References: <1464308570622-52030.post@n5.nabble.com>
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 <001b01d1b8e2$70cdf300$5269d900$@ca>
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Message-ID: <CALbDJ9ZeX_fb7MCMDXf5yo1XjAGg3w9KVyXiNBdBFnAvmwMBTQ@mail.gmail.com>

I enjoy working on boats, but I never lose sight of my goal which is going
from this -  [image: Inline image 1] to this in as short a time as possible



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> I am one of those strange ducks who actually enjoy the rebuild process -
> although I would like to see the end product before I am too old to
> actually
> use the boat. I am seriously wondering whether the rebuild will outlive me
> and that is depressing to think about. Still my advice is not to get into a
> serious rebuild unless you really enjoy the process. If you just want a
> boat
> to sail, a project boat will probably defeat you both emotionally and
> financially. You really have to love the challenge.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Michael Weisner
> Sent: May 28, 2016 9:30 AM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
>
> Graham,
>
> Indeed, I was thinking of project boats such as yours or Lou's "Miracles"
> when I was cautioning Steve.  Since Steve is located in Florida, as opposed
> to a northern climate in which we are forced to work on our projects in a
> few short months, and has large amounts time, he may be able to cut the
> rebuild time considerably from your estimate.  Then again, as much as I
> enjoy the rebuilding process, I find that sailing is really what I like to
> do the most.  Difficult project boats are for youngsters.  I'm going
> sailing.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Graham Stewart
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:11 AM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
>
> Mike's description of what to look out for in old Rhodes makes me think he
> must have seen my boat as it is the perfect description of what can go
> wrong. My boat had all of those issues and then some. Mind you, nothing
> that
> five or six years of work can't fix.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Sun May 29 12:10:25 2016
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 12:10:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My First Hello
In-Reply-To: <1464459324908-52042.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1464308570622-52030.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1464382813772-52031.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36aKQAUSNhhc=tZAKvyQhYbaou7HDn8pB75MoM5sVVd5dg@mail.gmail.com>
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Alex,
I'm on the Cleveland lakefront.  Let me know when you want to sail the big
pond.

Rick
On May 28, 2016 2:15 PM, "S/V Lark" <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> I have a slip at Clarence J Brown by Springfield.  It's convenient for
> daysailing.  I'll try again for a road trip this fall.  Do you know the
> area?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> View this message in context:
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Tue May 31 12:01:24 2016
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (rbeytagh)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 09:01:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Shiny new Rhodes 22 spotted
Message-ID: <1464710484687-52046.post@n5.nabble.com>

A shiny new Rhodes 22 was spotted on the I-95 over the long weekend. Who is
the lucky owner and I hope you didn't have to prematurely launch it with all
the rain in that area?

ENJOY!



-----
Richard Beytagh
R22 1984
s/v Waif
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From jadoucet at snet.net  Tue May 31 12:50:38 2016
From: jadoucet at snet.net (Joseph Doucet)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 12:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Shiny new Rhodes 22 spotted
In-Reply-To: <1464710484687-52046.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1464710484687-52046.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5E464BBD-A4BB-4942-919C-6231C8780FCE@snet.net>

Which state?  If it was Hardeeville, sc it would have floated off 
The trailer

Joe the elder recycled 2004

> On May 31, 2016, at 12:01 PM, rbeytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> A shiny new Rhodes 22 was spotted on the I-95 over the long weekend. Who is
> the lucky owner and I hope you didn't have to prematurely launch it with all
> the rain in that area?
> 
> ENJOY!
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Richard Beytagh
> R22 1984
> s/v Waif
> --
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