[Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?

Mary Lou Troy mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Mon May 9 16:35:32 EDT 2016 

The Rhodes has always been advertised as being able to be sailed or 
motored right on to the trailer.

Mary Lou


At 02:26 PM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
>My diamond board model was advertised as beachable and capable of being run
>up right onto the trailer for haul out.  I've done both with no problem.
>The one centerboard model I have seen does not have the same keel design as
>mine.
>
>Rick
>
>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > Based on postings to this list over the years, Mary Lou 's comments reflect
> > my own understanding of the difference between the diamond board and the
> > older board. It was also my understanding, possibly incorrect, that boats
> > coming from the plant as refurbished boats have the diamond boards
> > installed
> > so it is possible that the date of original construction might not always
> > reflect which board is installed.
> >
> > I have the original rudder style board that drops into the keel and rotates
> > on a pin. The centerboard housing cap is removable allowing the centreboard
> > to be lifted out. Very early boats did not have a removable cap so removing
> > the centreboard was a much more involved process. My understanding, and I
> > stand to be corrected, is that this installation and pivot pin arrangement
> > is the same for the traditional centreboard and the diamond board.
> >
> > My view is that the diamond board is a refinement that would allow for
> > slightly improved performance for those who have the knowledge and skill to
> > take advantage of such things. While I would choose the diamond board in
> > theory, I would definitely give much greater weight to selecting a boat
> > that
> > had been maintained in good condition and had the comfort features that I
> > wanted.
> >
> > I would be very reluctant about beaching the R22 regardless of the
> > centerboard used. I don't think the board makes any difference to how the
> > boat is launched from or retrieved onto the trailer.
> >
> > In the final analysis, the for the authoritative answer about such matters
> > you need to ask Stan.
> >
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Mary Lou Troy
> > Sent: May 9, 2016 11:11 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> >
> > Not sure what the difference in beachability (I wouldn't do it with an R22)
> > trailerability would be. Both have a slot for the centerboard. the diamond
> > board as far as I know is just an improved design for the centerboard.
> >
> > BTW, Fretless is a 1991 with a diamondboard. We actually thought she was a
> > centerboard boat when we bought her. It wasn't until we saw her up in
> > slings
> > for bottom painting that we learned she had the diamondboard.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 Fretless (recycled 1998)
> > Soon to be offered for sale
> > I'll have a post to the board about it in the next few days Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > At 10:11 AM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
> > >Mine is a '93 with a diamond board.  It was about 1990 the change was
> > made.
> > >
> > >The diamond board has a few advantages over the centerboard.  With a
> > >pivot instead of a pin, it is easier to maintain and leak-free.  The
> > >main benefit is structural in that the boat is beachable and
> > >trailerable without concern for the shoal keel.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Joe Camp via Rhodes22-list <
> > >rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oliver:
> > > >      My R-22 is a recycled 1987, and it has the standard
> > > > centerboard. As I understand (from Stan) the same effect as that
> > > > provided by the "Diamond Centerboard" can be obtained by deploying
> > > > an old one about three quarters down. So, I do that. I don't know if
> > > > it works (really) because I am not that savvy of a sailor. However,
> > > > I trust Stan on any matter referring to his boat's performance.  So,
> > > > there you have it.  Almost any question can be answered by checking
> > > > on the "list"s archives."  Good luck getting your Rhodes.
> > > >
> > > >      By the way, don't waste your time fretting any details about
> > > > the R-22.  Whatever model (year) you get, it will have been
> > > > engineered to maximum efficiency. Every one of them sails like a
> > > > dream and cuts a dashing image on water, even on the hard.  Almost
> > > > every time I launch, someone pulls into the marina and asks what
> > > > kind of boat I have. It caught their eyes as they drove past. Then,
> > > > they spend some time eying her up from many angles and showering me
> > > > with questions and flattering comments. Couple of years ago, a guy
> > > > approached with stars in his eyes (I mean, really awe-struck). "Ah,
> > > > this is a Rhodes-22! I've heard of them, but I've never actually
> > > > seen one." He spent twenty minutes. It's a great boat to own, and it
> > > > warms the hearts of sailing enthusiasts.  It can't provide sex.  But,
> > Stan's probably working on that.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Camp
> > > > s/v John Dawson
> > > > Bohemia River, MD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       From: Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net>
> > > >  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >  Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:44 AM
> > > >  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Change to diamond shaped CB?
> > > >
> > > > I'm still looking for my first Rhodes, and have some CB related
> > questions:
> > > >
> > > > What year was the change from the CB shaped like the rudder to the
> > > > diamond shape?
> > > >
> > > > Is the newer design sometimes retrofitted during the factory
> > > > recycling process?
> > > >
> > > > I realize the new design has some advantages with the direct pull
> > > > pendant and surface area vs frontal area ratio, but how much of a
> > > > difference have owners who've experienced both designs really noticed?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Olivier
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