From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 21:33:28 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 21:33:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Italy August 2
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXDO0U+qNck-ryMH7SbRg2U6mDtsSHiBM+9GSXGtSZj_A@mail.gmail.com>

Still waiting on the ship that is slated to pick up Enosis I.  Seems it is
in Vera Cruz picking up Ford Focus'.  Arrrgh.  Still working with contacts
in Italy to resolve the status of the boat and how it will enter the
country, under what provision.  Some are a couple hundred bucks others
could cost a couple of grand.  Arrgh again.  Regardless it will happen.

Chris G

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 22:30:27 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 22:30:27 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWP40MBQNWPvQYJRz3K1CmojPkp6hcTDxEQhYeyhM-PNA@mail.gmail.com>

This is a test.  I have put my narrations into Google Docs.  I am putting a
link to this document below it should use no mb's for just the link.  Just
when you click should it show more.  So as I understand it there is a limit
on MB's on each post.  Hopefully this will get around the problem.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNVlRaX2dSSFBDX3c/view?usp=sharing


Chris Geankoplis

From hnw555 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 22:45:51 2017
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 22:45:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWP40MBQNWPvQYJRz3K1CmojPkp6hcTDxEQhYeyhM-PNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWP40MBQNWPvQYJRz3K1CmojPkp6hcTDxEQhYeyhM-PNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADQNfMAtx5XenyYS+1HTU=39ekr9TGCu4_shuoJnyKY=SSRaeg@mail.gmail.com>

It works. I could open it with no problems.

Hank

On Aug 2, 2017 10:30 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is a test.  I have put my narrations into Google Docs.  I am putting a
> link to this document below it should use no mb's for just the link.  Just
> when you click should it show more.  So as I understand it there is a limit
> on MB's on each post.  Hopefully this will get around the problem.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNVlRaX2dSSFBDX3c/
> view?usp=sharing
>
>
> Chris Geankoplis
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Wed Aug  2 23:01:02 2017
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 23:01:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
In-Reply-To: <CADQNfMAtx5XenyYS+1HTU=39ekr9TGCu4_shuoJnyKY=SSRaeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWP40MBQNWPvQYJRz3K1CmojPkp6hcTDxEQhYeyhM-PNA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADQNfMAtx5XenyYS+1HTU=39ekr9TGCu4_shuoJnyKY=SSRaeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fb01d30c04$c1894e40$449beac0$@ebsmed.com>

Chris,

I love to read of your adventures.  I hope that Rhodies will be able to read
them for years to come.

The google docs method works very well. The only problem is that we must
rely on the link to google.  If you cancel your account, delete the data or
google suspends the account because you haven't accessed it for a while, the
Rhodes list may not be able to view the content.  This is why I try to have
everyone post their material directly to the list.  We have had issues where
folks posted to the old nabble web interface and when nabble changed their
system, the links to the materials failed.  The same is true if posts
referenced photo storage sites that are no longer functional.  If the
content is posted to the list, as long as the list survives, so will the
content.

I happily approve all non-spam posts, regardless of size.  Our server is
based on the Amazon Web Services model.  We cannot outgrow their storage
capacities.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Hank
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16

It works. I could open it with no problems.

Hank

On Aug 2, 2017 10:30 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is a test.  I have put my narrations into Google Docs.  I am 
> putting a link to this document below it should use no mb's for just 
> the link.  Just when you click should it show more.  So as I 
> understand it there is a limit on MB's on each post.  Hopefully this will
get around the problem.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNVlRaX2dSSFBDX3c/
> view?usp=sharing
>
>
> Chris Geankoplis
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From ruckc at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  2 23:50:59 2017
From: ruckc at yahoo.com (Curtis Ruck)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 03:50:59 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
In-Reply-To: <00bd01d30a34$25dcc980$71965c80$@ca>
References: <15d8ecaf614-2e35-30997@webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>
 <008701d30983$99056630$cb103290$@ca>
 <1269238C-923F-4FA2-8462-FF309EDFDC2F@stottarchitecture.com>
 <00bd01d30a34$25dcc980$71965c80$@ca>
Message-ID: <CAFgGLFce8HoErQG22X7CXZ5hNLeP9bprDwe53vjA4AvPMmCe1g@mail.gmail.com>

I just assembled my own windward traveler (Harken) rig.  My old setup as it
came from previous owner was two pulleys and two ropes... nearly impossible
to adjust under sail.  My boat also has zero lifelines or rails to mount a
traveler to.

 I mounted the Harken track on 1" OD fiberglass tubing for strength between
backstays.  For the backstays, since i had to replace them due to a mast
folding incident last fall, with assistance from a machine shop, took two
short 4" pieces 1.25" OD stainless tubing and had them drill 2 holes all
the way through the tubing.  In the holes for the back stays, i inserted
1/4" OD stainless tubing and flared the ends (like you would with an
automotive brake line).  The 1/8 ends were flared while inserted in the
traveler rail sleeve, to provide a "low" friction channel for the backstays
to run through.  I then swaged the sleeves onto the backstay.

[image: IMG_20170730_150748.jpg]
If you look in the attached photo, behind my 6 year old daughter at the
tiller, you can see my windward traveler rig.  And yes, I take my 2 and 4
year old children out also...

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:35 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Ric:
> No, I didn't get the email. My address is gstewart8 at cogeco dot ca.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Ric Stott
> Sent: July 31, 2017 7:07 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Cc: asnooch at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>
> Graham I designed and made two sets of attachments for the traveler ends. I
> have a set that I would sell as I don't feel the need for a back up set any
> longer. I emailed a pic of the installation and the drawings for it but I
> don't think the email ever reached you.
> I'll try again when I get to my office later.
> Ric
> Sv Dadventure.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 30, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to all for their advice and suggestions. It is amazing how many
> > versions of the same thing have been developed by Rhodies. I'll let
> > you know what I do.
> > Graham
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of
> > asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list
> > Sent: July 29, 2017 10:41 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
> > traveller
> >
> >
> > Graham, I hope my solution helps. I've enjoyed it's use for over a
> decade.
> > It's mounted on my stern rail with a traveler and spinlocks, not on
> > the stays, and "out of the cockpit. If interested contact me for
> > details. Burt Brody, Golden Snooch, 82 Rhodes 22.  asnooch at aol.com . See
> attached photo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 9:14 pm
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
> >
> > I was planning to construct a version of the aft stay mounted traveller.
> > Having mocked up the bar on my boat I realized that my motor is
> > virtually unreachable. I don't have the power lift or remote controls.
> > Unless I am missing something this makes the traveller arrangement
> > appear to be unfeasible. Has anyone come up with a solution to this
> problem?
> > I was wondering about some sort of quick disconnect that would easily
> > move the traveller bar out of the way.
> > Any suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 08:31:03 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:31:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
Message-ID: <011526C8-B50D-4BB2-B08A-847B98FA874C@gmail.com>

Rhodes,
I know this topic pops up periodically, and I?ve lost track of any great solutions. I have a boom bail on the boom. Has anybody found a better way of attachment to the base of the mast than a line under the mast bolt? This would only be for pop-up down, boom in high position. in the archives, Roger talked about a hitch pin on the boom car so in any scenario, with pop-up up or down, boom high or low position it works. I just question where to locate it and the stresses on it.


Jay Friedland

S/V Wanderlust ?97

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Aug  3 08:52:33 2017
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:52:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
In-Reply-To: <011526C8-B50D-4BB2-B08A-847B98FA874C@gmail.com>
References: <011526C8-B50D-4BB2-B08A-847B98FA874C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <012501d30c57$615561f0$240025d0$@ebsmed.com>

This topic was hot 20 years ago.  The archives preserved the discussion with Roger at:  http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/vang.html .

An interesting photo shows a simple attachment of the vang to the mast:
http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/pics/vang.jpg

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:31 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment

Rhodes,
I know this topic pops up periodically, and I?ve lost track of any great solutions. I have a boom bail on the boom. Has anybody found a better way of attachment to the base of the mast than a line under the mast bolt? This would only be for pop-up down, boom in high position. in the archives, Roger talked about a hitch pin on the boom car so in any scenario, with pop-up up or down, boom high or low position it works. I just question where to locate it and the stresses on it.


Jay Friedland

S/V Wanderlust ?97
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 08:59:38 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:59:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
In-Reply-To: <011526C8-B50D-4BB2-B08A-847B98FA874C@gmail.com>
References: <011526C8-B50D-4BB2-B08A-847B98FA874C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9azutLRxn_7WcF+WssRYaLkMcmekza0hrLOZjhiOC=AQQ@mail.gmail.com>

The GNAV system from Selden is the ideal solution for a vang on the R22. It
is however, a little expensive.

S/V Waif

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On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rhodes,
> I know this topic pops up periodically, and I?ve lost track of any great
> solutions. I have a boom bail on the boom. Has anybody found a better way
> of attachment to the base of the mast than a line under the mast bolt? This
> would only be for pop-up down, boom in high position. in the archives,
> Roger talked about a hitch pin on the boom car so in any scenario, with
> pop-up up or down, boom high or low position it works. I just question
> where to locate it and the stresses on it.
>
>
> Jay Friedland
>
> S/V Wanderlust ?97
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 10:29:20 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 10:29:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
In-Reply-To: <00fb01d30c04$c1894e40$449beac0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <CADNTwiWP40MBQNWPvQYJRz3K1CmojPkp6hcTDxEQhYeyhM-PNA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADQNfMAtx5XenyYS+1HTU=39ekr9TGCu4_shuoJnyKY=SSRaeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <00fb01d30c04$c1894e40$449beac0$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXmhoq8ErzEbu9ebQXQVGangNi715ETFmCBhQOyivfcQA@mail.gmail.com>

Great this makes sense.  I will send the next couple of days out as just
PDF's.  The video links that are embedded are a bit of a problem.  Shall I
send them as an attachment with the story.  The readers can read and hit
the embeded link for now but for archiving if one of the scenarios you
described happens there will still be a copy of the video itself.  What do
you think?  Thanks again for watching out and helping not just me but
everyone else on the list.

Chris G

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Michael Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I love to read of your adventures.  I hope that Rhodies will be able to
> read
> them for years to come.
>
> The google docs method works very well. The only problem is that we must
> rely on the link to google.  If you cancel your account, delete the data or
> google suspends the account because you haven't accessed it for a while,
> the
> Rhodes list may not be able to view the content.  This is why I try to have
> everyone post their material directly to the list.  We have had issues
> where
> folks posted to the old nabble web interface and when nabble changed their
> system, the links to the materials failed.  The same is true if posts
> referenced photo storage sites that are no longer functional.  If the
> content is posted to the list, as long as the list survives, so will the
> content.
>
> I happily approve all non-spam posts, regardless of size.  Our server is
> based on the Amazon Web Services model.  We cannot outgrow their storage
> capacities.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Hank
> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:46 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
>
> It works. I could open it with no problems.
>
> Hank
>
> On Aug 2, 2017 10:30 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This is a test.  I have put my narrations into Google Docs.  I am
> > putting a link to this document below it should use no mb's for just
> > the link.  Just when you click should it show more.  So as I
> > understand it there is a limit on MB's on each post.  Hopefully this will
> get around the problem.
> >
> >
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNVlRaX2dSSFBDX3c/
> > view?usp=sharing
> >
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > __________________________________________________
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> > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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> > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >
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From marlangreen at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 11:07:38 2017
From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:07:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
Message-ID: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Rhodies,

Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at the
Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet, socialize
and just do what sailors do - tell stories.

I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings away
from the actual show.

This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?

Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?

I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm willing
to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't think
I can do it alone.

I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor location
like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.

Do you think this is a good idea?

Do you think it is something you would attend?

Are you willing to help me pull it together?

I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
slide.

If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or location
please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis area
who could host at their home?   :-)

Thanks

Marlan Green
s/v Nautisaurus
Holiday Hill Marina
Mayo, MD
Rhode River

From tryc96 at ymail.com  Thu Aug  3 11:51:54 2017
From: tryc96 at ymail.com (William Scarpitta)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:51:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9azutLRxn_7WcF+WssRYaLkMcmekza0hrLOZjhiOC=AQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <011526C8-B50D-4BB2-B08A-847B98FA874C@gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9azutLRxn_7WcF+WssRYaLkMcmekza0hrLOZjhiOC=AQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <984750542.5084273.1501775514996@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
I rigged my boom vang using the usual bail on the boom, but instead of a bail on the mast which would prevent using the pop top, I used two pieces of heavy webbing (seat belt material would work too) with a grommet on one end and a D ring on the other. ?I attached the grommet ends to the mast base by using a slightly longer bolt through the tabernacle and just attach the end of the vang to both D rings when the vang is needed. ?When the vang is not needed, the two straps can be just pushed out of the way and the pop top works fine. ? I estimate?the materials cost at about five dollars.
Billy ScarpittaSandpiper, 1996 R22North Fort Myers FL

      From: Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
 To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
   
The GNAV system from Selden is the ideal solution for a vang on the R22. It
is however, a little expensive.

S/V Waif

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On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rhodes,
> I know this topic pops up periodically, and I?ve lost track of any great
> solutions. I have a boom bail on the boom. Has anybody found a better way
> of attachment to the base of the mast than a line under the mast bolt? This
> would only be for pop-up down, boom in high position. in the archives,
> Roger talked about a hitch pin on the boom car so in any scenario, with
> pop-up up or down, boom high or low position it works. I just question
> where to locate it and the stresses on it.
>
>
> Jay Friedland
>
> S/V Wanderlust ?97
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From jason_q at jasonquick.com  Thu Aug  3 12:25:21 2017
From: jason_q at jasonquick.com (kg4ezq)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 09:25:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
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I used the exact same approach William described. My only additional advice
would be to double or triple the ends (i.e. fold the webbing over itself)
before installing the grommet, as my first attempt failed when the grommet
pulled through the webbing. Wider webbing would likely have helped. I was
fortunate that our local sailing instructor has a proper grommet
installation set up that was able to punch through the three layers of
webbing, I'm not sure how easy this would be otherwise, but it worked well
for me. 

--Jason



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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Aug  3 12:58:21 2017
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 12:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
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Chris,

The video is most likely too large to send via email.  If you include the
link to the video, I will try to move it to the AWS server and relink it to
preserve the video.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:29 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16

Great this makes sense.  I will send the next couple of days out as just
PDF's.  The video links that are embedded are a bit of a problem.  Shall I
send them as an attachment with the story.  The readers can read and hit the
embeded link for now but for archiving if one of the scenarios you described
happens there will still be a copy of the video itself.  What do you think?
Thanks again for watching out and helping not just me but everyone else on
the list.

Chris G

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Michael Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I love to read of your adventures.  I hope that Rhodies will be able 
> to read them for years to come.
>
> The google docs method works very well. The only problem is that we 
> must rely on the link to google.  If you cancel your account, delete 
> the data or google suspends the account because you haven't accessed 
> it for a while, the Rhodes list may not be able to view the content.  
> This is why I try to have everyone post their material directly to the 
> list.  We have had issues where folks posted to the old nabble web 
> interface and when nabble changed their system, the links to the 
> materials failed.  The same is true if posts referenced photo storage 
> sites that are no longer functional.  If the content is posted to the 
> list, as long as the list survives, so will the content.
>
> I happily approve all non-spam posts, regardless of size.  Our server 
> is based on the Amazon Web Services model.  We cannot outgrow their 
> storage capacities.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Hank
> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:46 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-1-16
>
> It works. I could open it with no problems.
>
> Hank
>
> On Aug 2, 2017 10:30 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" 
> <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This is a test.  I have put my narrations into Google Docs.  I am 
> > putting a link to this document below it should use no mb's for just 
> > the link.  Just when you click should it show more.  So as I 
> > understand it there is a limit on MB's on each post.  Hopefully this 
> > will
> get around the problem.
> >
> >
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNVlRaX2dSSFBDX3c/
> > view?usp=sharing
> >
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu Aug  3 13:31:24 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:31:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
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I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love to participate if you can pull it off . 
I especially love the name of your boat. 
Ric 
sv Dadventure
Hampton Bays
  
> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Dear Rhodies,
> 
> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at the
> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet, socialize
> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> 
> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings away
> from the actual show.
> 
> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
> 
> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
> 
> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm willing
> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't think
> I can do it alone.
> 
> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor location
> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
> 
> Do you think this is a good idea?
> 
> Do you think it is something you would attend?
> 
> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> 
> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> slide.
> 
> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or location
> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis area
> who could host at their home?   :-)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marlan Green
> s/v Nautisaurus
> Holiday Hill Marina
> Mayo, MD
> Rhode River
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu Aug  3 13:44:51 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:44:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
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This looks like a nice setup. Is it removable?
Ric 
> On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I just assembled my own windward traveler (Harken) rig.  My old setup as it
> came from previous owner was two pulleys and two ropes... nearly impossible
> to adjust under sail.  My boat also has zero lifelines or rails to mount a
> traveler to.
> 
> I mounted the Harken track on 1" OD fiberglass tubing for strength between
> backstays.  For the backstays, since i had to replace them due to a mast
> folding incident last fall, with assistance from a machine shop, took two
> short 4" pieces 1.25" OD stainless tubing and had them drill 2 holes all
> the way through the tubing.  In the holes for the back stays, i inserted
> 1/4" OD stainless tubing and flared the ends (like you would with an
> automotive brake line).  The 1/8 ends were flared while inserted in the
> traveler rail sleeve, to provide a "low" friction channel for the backstays
> to run through.  I then swaged the sleeves onto the backstay.
> 
> [image: IMG_20170730_150748.jpg]
> If you look in the attached photo, behind my 6 year old daughter at the
> tiller, you can see my windward traveler rig.  And yes, I take my 2 and 4
> year old children out also...
> 
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:35 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Ric:
>> No, I didn't get the email. My address is gstewart8 at cogeco dot ca.
>> Graham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Ric Stott
>> Sent: July 31, 2017 7:07 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Cc: asnooch at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>> 
>> Graham I designed and made two sets of attachments for the traveler ends. I
>> have a set that I would sell as I don't feel the need for a back up set any
>> longer. I emailed a pic of the installation and the drawings for it but I
>> don't think the email ever reached you.
>> I'll try again when I get to my office later.
>> Ric
>> Sv Dadventure.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all for their advice and suggestions. It is amazing how many
>>> versions of the same thing have been developed by Rhodies. I'll let
>>> you know what I do.
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list
>>> Sent: July 29, 2017 10:41 AM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
>>> traveller
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graham, I hope my solution helps. I've enjoyed it's use for over a
>> decade.
>>> It's mounted on my stern rail with a traveler and spinlocks, not on
>>> the stays, and "out of the cockpit. If interested contact me for
>>> details. Burt Brody, Golden Snooch, 82 Rhodes 22.  asnooch at aol.com . See
>> attached photo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 9:14 pm
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>>> 
>>> I was planning to construct a version of the aft stay mounted traveller.
>>> Having mocked up the bar on my boat I realized that my motor is
>>> virtually unreachable. I don't have the power lift or remote controls.
>>> Unless I am missing something this makes the traveller arrangement
>>> appear to be unfeasible. Has anyone come up with a solution to this
>> problem?
>>> I was wondering about some sort of quick disconnect that would easily
>>> move the traveller bar out of the way.
>>> Any suggestions are welcome.
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>> 
>>> 
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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 14:06:14 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 14:06:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
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All the ideas sound pretty basic to what I had in mind. Does anyone have more details to David Culp?s solution from 2010?

Found under "Fwd: [Rhodes22-list] Was Sails Now Boom Vangs? but no photo or any additional details-

Jay

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: David Culp <dculp at hsbtx.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Was Sails Now Boom Vangs
> Date: January 13, 2010 at 1:20:02 PM EST
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> 
> OK... I will get some good pictures of the parts, the operation and how to
> build it.  I have to take the operational pictures out on the water and if
> it warms up a little more today, I may do it.
> 
> In the meantime, to answer Lee's question:  Yes, it will work on any point
> of sail.  Most effective when the boom is swung out over the water to the
> farthest point and has its greatest tendency to rise.  The closer the boom
> is to the centerline of the boat, the less effective the device is until it
> is nil when the boom reaches centerline.  With boom end sheeting and a loose
> footed main in the case of the IMF, you would bend the boom before being
> able to noticeably tighten the sail when close to the wind.  I use it on all
> points of sail other then close-hauled and I have noticed it makes my tales
> fly better even on a close reach.  This appears more efficient, but it has
> not translated into any performance increases that I can see.  So anytime
> the boom is completely over the boat, I don't worry about using it.  Only
> when the boom starts rising, do I deploy it depending on conditions; keeping
> in mind that sometimes you want some belly in the sail downwind or to spill
> some wind in high wind conditions and the boom rising up helps that.
> 
> This is not rocket science by any means.  I got the idea from reading about
> how some off shore sailors disconnect their boom vangs from the mast base
> and attach them to the rail to use as a preventer.  That got me to wondering
> if I could build a small boom vang with a purchase, attach it mid-boom on
> the Rhodes and then fasten it to the rail in some manner.  The trick was
> finding the right rail attach point which would allow enough leverage on the
> boom when downwind and still not interfere with the pop top arrangement.  So
> I experimented with several positions until I found a good compromise.
> 
> To demonstrate the simplicity of it:  Initially, I tied a loop of line
> around the boom at about mid point and then treaded the other end through
> the forward bimini attachment eye and played with that out on the water....
> Hey... it works and I don't have to hold the boom down by hand anymore.
> 
> After that, it was just a matter of building something that could be easily
> adjusted and quickly released to safely allow a tack or gybe and then able
> to quickly attach the device to the other rail for the new point of sail.
> The normal cleat/block combination found on a boom vang and a snap shackle
> took care of that.  If you are tacking a lot working upwind, you don't want
> to use it.  Requires more effort then it is worth because you must
> disconnect it from the windward side and reconnect on the leeward side after
> taking up the line that runs out when the boom crosses the boat.  Running
> downwind, broad or beam reaching, it's great!
> 
> Todd and others:  This is more of a home remedy then an invention.   I know
> you are kidding but the idea of patenting or selling anything is the last
> thing on my mind.  I am about 100 years too late and the parts are all
> available at your favorite boat supply.  My real hope is that someone else
> may find it useful and/or improve upon it.  If someone really wanted to
> build something unique, they would figure out how to install a boom vang
> from ABOVE the boom on the IMF that was adjustable for the different boom
> positions.  Sort of along the lines of what the Viper has.  I would be
> willing to pay for that.  If the Rhodes was anything other then an
> occasional weekend racer, Stan would have probably already figured that one
> out.  Those of us who have done a little racing know that 1/2 a knot is huge
> when your hull speed is only 6.  That's a 12% increase in speed downwind.
> When just out cruising, if you are trying to cover a longer distance more
> efficiently, then you may find this useful and that's my hope.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> From: r22rumrunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was Sails Now Boom Vangs
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <f71a.4445681d.387e3353 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> David,
> Rhodies are always interested in inventions. Any information you want to
> share with the list would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/12/2010 3:01:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> dculp at hsbtx.com writes:
> 
> Since  you guys brought this up and not me.... I will tell you that there is
> a way  to have a "boom vang/preventer" type apparatus on the Rhodes 22 that
> works  with the pop top up or down and the boom up or down.  I have  been
> reluctant to mention it on this forum because it is an  experimental,
> personal project.  However, like Mark McQuire I have  decided to "come
> clean"
> with my Rhodes buds and budettes.   I  built it this last summer for about $
> 150.00 dollars and have been testing  it since then with good results.  It
> is
> not a true boom vang, but it  does accomplish the three main things that I
> wanted:
> 
> 1.  Keep  the boom down and parallel to the deck running downwind with a
> possible  performance gain.
> 
> 2.  Prevent an accidental gybe.
> 
> 3.   Not interfere with the pop top or ingress/egress from the cabin and
> works  in either boom position.
> 
> An unintended result of having it installed is  my new ability to sail the
> boat backwards.  I did this initially to  test
> the structural integrity of the setup.  Then it became a  joke.  You get
> some
> very interesting reactions from power boaters as  you go by them sailing
> your
> Rhodes backwards.  Perhaps even a few have  given up drinking as a result
> .... nah!  Anyway, I was going to video  it and put it up on YouTube. Still
> coming, but my videographer who also  participated in some of the testing is
> very sick right now and I wanted to  give him a shot a being a part of it.
> 
> Issues:
> 
> True boom vangs  can be tightened and swing the full 180 degree travel of
> the
> boom.  My  system has two attach points and the tensioning line must be
> released to  run in the blocks in either a tack or gybe and then you have to
> move the  snap shackle to the other side and re-tension.  However, it does
> a
> great job of controlling boom rise working downwind and really the  Rhodes
> doesn't need a boom vang except downwind in my opinion.  In  other words,
> with a small, end-sheeted main, you really can't depower with  a vang close
> to the wind for a noticeable result.  The traveler is  much more effective
> in
> that regard.
> 
> Accidental gybes have been  tested up to wind speeds of approximately 12-13
> kts with good results but I  wouldn't go much higher then that.  My target
> is
> 15 kts., but so far  haven't gotten to test in a known steady 15 kt wind.
> The perfect system and  there are some on the market, would allow a slow
> release of the boom to  gybe the boat.  Otherwise, there are some huge
> transitional loads put  on the rig, tensioning lines and hardware of this
> system or any system for  that matter.  Accidental gybes in a sailboat are
> dangerous and never  good for the rig regardless of what system is in place.
> This preventer will  prevent an accidental gybe, but even better, it gives
> you more time to  recognize that possibility and recover your course before
> it  happens.
> 
> Should the normal Rhodes owner run out and put this on his/her  boat?
> Leaving it up to you, but most probably don't care.  Would the  manufacturer
> of the boat recommend it? Probably not as presently  designed.  Has it
> worked
> well for me and been convincing to other  sailors who have witnessed its
> operation?  Yes!   Could you  hurt yourself or damage your boat with it?
> Maybe, if you are not paying  attention and do stupid things in high winds.
> Of course, that holds true in  any sailing situation; so it is not
> inherently dangerous.
> 
> Now the  most important thing:  Did it increase the speed of the boat?
> Yes.
> My knot-meter tells me about .5 kts in winds 12-13 knots in  relatively
> smooth water.
> 
> Someone wrote on this forum sometime time  back that when they manually held
> their boom down by hand going downwind...  that it was worth about 1/2 a
> knot.      $ 150.00 dollars  later, I can confirm that observation as being
> pretty much true.   There are a lot of factors that control boat speed and
> your results may  vary.
> 
> In the final analysis; for most people, there are better ways to  spend your
> money for 1/2 a knot.  For instance, a whisker pole for the  Rhodes costs
> about $ 150.00 dollars.  If you want real performance  downwind, put a
> spinnaker on the boat.  I was more interested in  increasing efficiency with
> the sails I have.  I never have a crew and  don't want a spinnaker, so this
> is what I did. IT DOES WHAT I WANTED IT TO  DO. Which is my definition of a
> successful home project. If others are  interested, post your comments and I
> will build a webpage with photos fully  explaining how to build it.  It's
> actually fairly simple.  You  will have to decide if it is worth it to you.
> 
> David Culp
> 
> Date:  Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:09:19 -0800 (PST)
> From: Leland  <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Was Sails Now Boom  Vangs
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:  <27128980.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> Rummy,
> 
> Since you brought up the winter  topic and unlike you I won't be able to
> sail
> until the ice melts, how about  them boom vangs?
> 
> Someone on this list has a removable vang that can be  used with the poptop
> down but I normally sail with the poptop up and am too  lazy to take a vang
> on and off.
> 
> I assume there is no practical means  of keeping the boom down when the
> poptop is up or Stan would have figured  it out by now.  A reverse rigid
> vang-like apparatus installed higher  up on the mast could push the boom
> down
> but would probably interfere with  the sail.  You could tie the end of the
> boom down using strategically  placed cleats but that could involve a lot of
> cleats and a safety  issue.  Even less safe would be a bag of weights
> hanging
> off the end  of the boom--might be exciting during tacks and jibes.
> 
> Until someone  comes up with a workable solution I guess I'll just keep
> using
> Boomer to  hold things down, but my wife doesn't particularly like the title
> or the  job.
> 
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Kent Island,  MD
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From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com  Thu Aug  3 14:24:07 2017
From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (michael meltzer)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:24:07 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <9891FC5F-2BEC-4A59-B57D-8DF1CD4A761E@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <9891FC5F-2BEC-4A59-B57D-8DF1CD4A761E@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>

It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
becomes a donation if you can not show

On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love to
> participate if you can pull it off .
> I especially love the name of your boat.
> Ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
>
> > On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Dear Rhodies,
> >
> > Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
> the
> > Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
> > possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
> socialize
> > and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> >
> > I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
> > Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings away
> > from the actual show.
> >
> > This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
> >
> > Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
> >
> > I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> willing
> > to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
> think
> > I can do it alone.
> >
> > I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
> > that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
> location
> > like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
> >
> > Do you think this is a good idea?
> >
> > Do you think it is something you would attend?
> >
> > Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> >
> > I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> > slide.
> >
> > If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or location
> > please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
> area
> > who could host at their home?   :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marlan Green
> > s/v Nautisaurus
> > Holiday Hill Marina
> > Mayo, MD
> > Rhode River
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> o- 631-283-1777
> c- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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>

From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Thu Aug  3 14:28:53 2017
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 18:28:53 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <9891FC5F-2BEC-4A59-B57D-8DF1CD4A761E@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BN6PR18MB0946AAF92CA999FFBD4092CFD1B10@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Hey Stan, What does "management" want?  Is "management" reserving a spot at the show for 2018?

Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of michael meltzer
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:24 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-) need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it becomes a donation if you can not show

On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis 
> boat show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and 
> would love to participate if you can pull it off .
> I especially love the name of your boat.
> Ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
>
> > On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Dear Rhodies,
> >
> > Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 
> > at
> the
> > Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would 
> > be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
> socialize
> > and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> >
> > I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out 
> > with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal 
> > gatherings away from the actual show.
> >
> > This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
> >
> > Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
> >
> > I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> willing
> > to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
> think
> > I can do it alone.
> >
> > I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a 
> > venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to 
> > find an outdoor
> location
> > like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
> >
> > Do you think this is a good idea?
> >
> > Do you think it is something you would attend?
> >
> > Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> >
> > I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let 
> > it slide.
> >
> > If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or 
> > location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the 
> > Annapolis
> area
> > who could host at their home?   :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marlan Green
> > s/v Nautisaurus
> > Holiday Hill Marina
> > Mayo, MD
> > Rhode River
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> o- 631-283-1777
> c- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Thu Aug  3 14:37:20 2017
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 14:37:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <9891FC5F-2BEC-4A59-B57D-8DF1CD4A761E@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7efa080c-791d-dafe-b711-03e9202347cb@atlanticbb.net>

Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!

More details coming about what we did back then.

Good to hear from you.

Mary Lou


On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
> becomes a donation if you can not show
>
> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>
>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love to
>> participate if you can pull it off .
>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays
>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>
>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>> the
>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>> socialize
>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>
>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings away
>>> from the actual show.
>>>
>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>
>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>> willing
>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>> think
>>> I can do it alone.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>> location
>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>
>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>
>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>
>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>> slide.
>>>
>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or location
>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>> area
>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marlan Green
>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>> Mayo, MD
>>> Rhode River
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> o- 631-283-1777
>> c- 516-965-3164
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
> __________________________________________________
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Thu Aug  3 14:57:53 2017
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 14:57:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30d83e22-eea7-db8b-fb7d-27ea0280cb27@atlanticbb.net>

A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.

There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s 
early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one 
at Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal 
one at Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the 
restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and 
Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had 
wrapped things up for the night.

The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered 
right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ 
place Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought 
munchies, bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the 
wheeled cooler idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't 
remember who supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it 
seemed  like a big undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a 
meeting planner and I distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be 
easy."  If I recall correctly, she made the arrangements with the 
caterer. Jan or Michael Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the 
arrangements with the show management to let the caterer in and maybe 
had the list of attendees. This would have to be done by someone acting 
on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I believe we collected names so 
we had a list of everyone authorized to stay after the show closing. I 
collected the names of attendees and made nametags I found a nametag 
list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might have been for a 
restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 - that was a big 
catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm still 
looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.

Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 
equivalent of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took 
over a couple of the vacated booths of other vendors and were very 
careful to leave all as we found it when we left.

Good memories.

Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current 
rules on such gatherings might be.

Best to all
Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
Rock Hall, MD

On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:

> Dear Rhodies,
>
> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at the
> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet, socialize
> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>
> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings away
> from the actual show.
>
> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>
> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>
> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm willing
> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't think
> I can do it alone.
>
> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor location
> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>
> Do you think this is a good idea?
>
> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>
> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> slide.
>
> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or location
> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis area
> who could host at their home?   :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Marlan Green
> s/v Nautisaurus
> Holiday Hill Marina
> Mayo, MD
> Rhode River
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Thu Aug  3 15:03:44 2017
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:03:44 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <30d83e22-eea7-db8b-fb7d-27ea0280cb27@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <30d83e22-eea7-db8b-fb7d-27ea0280cb27@atlanticbb.net>
Message-ID: <BN6PR18MB0946A8D53F4C65423D197151D1B10@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers during the show and to socialize after show hours.

Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]



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-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.

There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had wrapped things up for the night.

The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies, bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 - that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.

Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as we found it when we left.

Good memories.

Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current rules on such gatherings might be.

Best to all
Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
Rock Hall, MD

On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:

> Dear Rhodies,
>
> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at 
> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it 
> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to 
> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>
> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out 
> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal 
> gatherings away from the actual show.
>
> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>
> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>
> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm 
> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I 
> don't think I can do it alone.
>
> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a 
> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to 
> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>
> Do you think this is a good idea?
>
> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>
> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>
> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it 
> slide.
>
> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or 
> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis area
> who could host at their home?   :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Marlan Green
> s/v Nautisaurus
> Holiday Hill Marina
> Mayo, MD
> Rhode River
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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From tryc96 at ymail.com  Thu Aug  3 16:30:22 2017
From: tryc96 at ymail.com (William Scarpitta)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 20:30:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
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Here's a photo of the vang?attachment on Sandpiper

     
   
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Thu Aug  3 17:00:07 2017
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 17:00:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
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Do you have to take the mast bolt out to raise the poptop or are there 2 
D-rings there?

Mary Lou


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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 17:09:34 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 17:09:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
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Thanks, Bill. That looks as simple as it gets.  It doesn?t show, but I understood this solution as 2 straps with D rings so it splits to let the mast block move.

Jay

> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:30 PM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
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From tryc96 at ymail.com  Thu Aug  3 17:11:35 2017
From: tryc96 at ymail.com (William Scarpitta)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 21:11:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
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Two separate straps, each with it's own D ring which the snap shackle holds together so that it works just like a bail. ?Remove the snap shackle and the two straps just fall to each side allowing the pop top to be raised. ?The only time you have to remove the bolt is when you first attach the two straps.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Mary Lou Troy<mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:   Do you have to take the mast bolt out to raise the poptop or are there 2 
D-rings there?

Mary Lou


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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 18:00:37 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 18:00:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis I

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
wrote:

> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> Suite 304
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>
>
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>
> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>
> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
> wrapped things up for the night.
>
> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>
> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
> we found it when we left.
>
> Good memories.
>
> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
> rules on such gatherings might be.
>
> Best to all
> Mary Lou
> ex Rhodes 22
> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
> Rock Hall, MD
>
> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Dear Rhodies,
> >
> > Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
> > the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
> > would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
> > meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> >
> > I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
> > with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
> > gatherings away from the actual show.
> >
> > This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
> >
> > Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
> >
> > I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> > willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
> > don't think I can do it alone.
> >
> > I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
> > venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
> > find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
> of unfriendly weather.
> >
> > Do you think this is a good idea?
> >
> > Do you think it is something you would attend?
> >
> > Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> >
> > I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> > slide.
> >
> > If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
> > location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
> Annapolis area
> > who could host at their home?   :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marlan Green
> > s/v Nautisaurus
> > Holiday Hill Marina
> > Mayo, MD
> > Rhode River
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 18:47:31 2017
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:47:31 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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Hi all -

 I will also kick in some bucks ,
 together with a  photo of Sweet Baboo. Suggest others might do the same in
honor of Stan, GB, & all of  our boats.

Where do I send the money and pic? Sorry to miss the fun.

Cheers,
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo

PS At 74, I told Stan that if I had six million dollars and was 20 years
younger I'd have a shot at continuing GB. He slyly  pointed out that I WAS
20 years younger.
Should anything evolve, best I can do would be as a small investor in a
noble endeavor...





On Aug 3, 2017 3:00 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis I
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
> > parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
> > Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
> purchasers
> > during the show and to socialize after show hours.
> >
> > Please note our new office address and phone number
> >
> > Christopher P. Cowie
> >
> > 700 N Fairfax Street
> > Suite 304
> > Alexandria, Virginia 22314
> > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> >
> >
> >
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Mary Lou Troy
> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> >
> > A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
> >
> > There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
> > early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
> at
> > Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
> > Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
> > restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
> > Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
> > wrapped things up for the night.
> >
> > The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
> > right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
> place
> > Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
> > bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
> cooler
> > idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
> > supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
> > undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and
> I
> > distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
> > correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
> > Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
> management
> > to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
> have
> > to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
> > believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
> stay
> > after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
> > nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
> > have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
> > that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
> I'm
> > still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
> then.
> >
> > Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
> > of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
> of
> > the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
> > we found it when we left.
> >
> > Good memories.
> >
> > Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
> > rules on such gatherings might be.
> >
> > Best to all
> > Mary Lou
> > ex Rhodes 22
> > now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Rhodies,
> > >
> > > Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
> > > the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
> > > would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
> > > meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> > >
> > > I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
> > > with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
> > > gatherings away from the actual show.
> > >
> > > This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
> gathering?
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
> evening?
> > >
> > > I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> > > willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
> > > don't think I can do it alone.
> > >
> > > I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
> > > venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
> > > find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
> > of unfriendly weather.
> > >
> > > Do you think this is a good idea?
> > >
> > > Do you think it is something you would attend?
> > >
> > > Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> > >
> > > I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> > > slide.
> > >
> > > If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
> > > location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
> > Annapolis area
> > > who could host at their home?   :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Marlan Green
> > > s/v Nautisaurus
> > > Holiday Hill Marina
> > > Mayo, MD
> > > Rhode River
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 19:43:24 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:43:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuOBcZ1Djz72uAHf3Xn3w38bcaEfvoBmowWL2nb-GHnUiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
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Great Idea Shawn!  We can send a couple of our "Best" picts and comments
about Stan, GBC and the boat!  I like the donation idea that Michael M.
mentioned that would be nice, maybe we could buy something for Stan and
Rose with the leftover if everyone doesn't drink it up.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis I

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all -
>
>  I will also kick in some bucks ,
>  together with a  photo of Sweet Baboo. Suggest others might do the same in
> honor of Stan, GB, & all of  our boats.
>
> Where do I send the money and pic? Sorry to miss the fun.
>
> Cheers,
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
>
> PS At 74, I told Stan that if I had six million dollars and was 20 years
> younger I'd have a shot at continuing GB. He slyly  pointed out that I WAS
> 20 years younger.
> Should anything evolve, best I can do would be as a small investor in a
> noble endeavor...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2017 3:00 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
> > kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis I
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
> > > parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
> that
> > > Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
> > purchasers
> > > during the show and to socialize after show hours.
> > >
> > > Please note our new office address and phone number
> > >
> > > Christopher P. Cowie
> > >
> > > 700 N Fairfax Street
> > > Suite 304
> > > Alexandria, Virginia 22314
> > > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> > > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Mary Lou Troy
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> > >
> > > A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
> > >
> > > There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late
> 90s
> > > early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
> > at
> > > Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
> at
> > > Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
> > > restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan
> (and
> > > Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they
> had
> > > wrapped things up for the night.
> > >
> > > The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
> > > right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
> > place
> > > Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
> > > bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
> > cooler
> > > idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
> > > supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a
> big
> > > undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
> and
> > I
> > > distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
> > > correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
> > > Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
> > management
> > > to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
> > have
> > > to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
> > > believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
> > stay
> > > after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
> > > nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
> might
> > > have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
> > > that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
> > I'm
> > > still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
> > then.
> > >
> > > Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
> equivalent
> > > of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
> > of
> > > the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
> as
> > > we found it when we left.
> > >
> > > Good memories.
> > >
> > > Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what
> current
> > > rules on such gatherings might be.
> > >
> > > Best to all
> > > Mary Lou
> > > ex Rhodes 22
> > > now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
> > > Rock Hall, MD
> > >
> > > On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Rhodies,
> > > >
> > > > Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22
> at
> > > > the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
> > > > would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
> > > > meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> > > >
> > > > I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
> > > > with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
> > > > gatherings away from the actual show.
> > > >
> > > > This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
> > gathering?
> > > >
> > > > Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
> > evening?
> > > >
> > > > I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> > > > willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help?
> I
> > > > don't think I can do it alone.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
> > > > venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
> > > > find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the
> risk
> > > of unfriendly weather.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think this is a good idea?
> > > >
> > > > Do you think it is something you would attend?
> > > >
> > > > Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let
> it
> > > > slide.
> > > >
> > > > If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
> > > > location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
> > > Annapolis area
> > > > who could host at their home?   :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Marlan Green
> > > > s/v Nautisaurus
> > > > Holiday Hill Marina
> > > > Mayo, MD
> > > > Rhode River
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > > >
> > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
> archives
> > > > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Thu Aug  3 20:38:29 2017
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 00:38:29 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWxQ=LviKXgHxaijKpMC5jr2C8no2O90yRvfoNKOPkzag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <30d83e22-eea7-db8b-fb7d-27ea0280cb27@atlanticbb.net>
 <BN6PR18MB0946A8D53F4C65423D197151D1B10@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>,
 <CADNTwiWxQ=LviKXgHxaijKpMC5jr2C8no2O90yRvfoNKOPkzag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <869722C5-4DD1-4A53-AB90-0AA98187BA29@cowieassociates.com>

I will provide the tape.


Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
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On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com<mailto:chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>> wrote:

I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis I

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
wrote:

Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
during the show and to socialize after show hours.

Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie

700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]



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-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.

There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
wrapped things up for the night.

The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.

Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
we found it when we left.

Good memories.

Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
rules on such gatherings might be.

Best to all
Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
Rock Hall, MD

On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com<mailto:marlangreen at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Rhodies,

Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.

I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
gatherings away from the actual show.

This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?

Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?

I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
don't think I can do it alone.

I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
of unfriendly weather.

Do you think this is a good idea?

Do you think it is something you would attend?

Are you willing to help me pull it together?

I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
slide.

If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
Annapolis area
who could host at their home?   :-)

Thanks

Marlan Green
s/v Nautisaurus
Holiday Hill Marina
Mayo, MD
Rhode River
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From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com  Fri Aug  4 09:06:19 2017
From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (michael meltzer)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 08:06:19 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <7efa080c-791d-dafe-b711-03e9202347cb@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <9891FC5F-2BEC-4A59-B57D-8DF1CD4A761E@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>
 <7efa080c-791d-dafe-b711-03e9202347cb@atlanticbb.net>
Message-ID: <CAH-6moQULFjUzB15gme8OH8KTLOnUMV+V6oeVy6L0prfp0Kp6w@mail.gmail.com>

Good to see you around too, nice memories. Wondering if it going to get
pulled off. For what it worth for the group, it after hours so does not
effect the show for Stan. The show is happy to cooperate, keeps the vendors
Happy. Stan might protest a bit but he does enjoy the attention

On Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!
>
> More details coming about what we did back then.
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
>
>> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
>> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
>> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
>> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
>> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
>> becomes a donation if you can not show
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love
>>> to
>>> participate if you can pull it off .
>>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>>> Ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> Hampton Bays
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>
>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>>>>
>>> socialize
>>>
>>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>
>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings
>>>> away
>>>> from the actual show.
>>>>
>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>> gathering?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>> evening?
>>>>
>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>
>>> willing
>>>
>>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>>>>
>>> think
>>>
>>>> I can do it alone.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>>>>
>>> location
>>>
>>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>
>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>
>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>> slide.
>>>>
>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>> location
>>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>>>>
>>> area
>>>
>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marlan Green
>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>> Rhode River
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>
>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>
>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>
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>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list
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From rweiss at siu.edu  Fri Aug  4 12:50:27 2017
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Robert Louis Weiss)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:50:27 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <9891FC5F-2BEC-4A59-B57D-8DF1CD4A761E@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAH-6moTzFmYxOMJN3B2DogXrOXX5xFjrnxfmnGUwsN-dqDrp8g@mail.gmail.com>
 <7efa080c-791d-dafe-b711-03e9202347cb@atlanticbb.net>,
 <CAH-6moQULFjUzB15gme8OH8KTLOnUMV+V6oeVy6L0prfp0Kp6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM3PR07MB2124774DCF936FDB43CF8DC3C6B60@DM3PR07MB2124.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

I'm planning to attend Friday and Saturday and would love to attend a gathering at the show. After hours sounds like a good idea to me.

Bob
Beach Spring

Robert L. Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of michael meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 9:06:19 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

Good to see you around too, nice memories. Wondering if it going to get
pulled off. For what it worth for the group, it after hours so does not
effect the show for Stan. The show is happy to cooperate, keeps the vendors
Happy. Stan might protest a bit but he does enjoy the attention

On Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!
>
> More details coming about what we did back then.
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
>
>> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
>> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
>> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
>> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
>> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
>> becomes a donation if you can not show
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love
>>> to
>>> participate if you can pull it off .
>>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>>> Ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> Hampton Bays
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>
>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>>>>
>>> socialize
>>>
>>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>
>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings
>>>> away
>>>> from the actual show.
>>>>
>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>> gathering?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>> evening?
>>>>
>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>
>>> willing
>>>
>>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>>>>
>>> think
>>>
>>>> I can do it alone.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>>>>
>>> location
>>>
>>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>
>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>
>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>> slide.
>>>>
>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>> location
>>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>>>>
>>> area
>>>
>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marlan Green
>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>> Mayo, MD
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From boendert at me.com  Fri Aug  4 12:54:47 2017
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:54:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can. 

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER 
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis I
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>> 
>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>> 
>> Christopher P. Cowie
>> 
>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>> Suite 304
>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> 
>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>> 
>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>> wrapped things up for the night.
>> 
>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>> 
>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>> we found it when we left.
>> 
>> Good memories.
>> 
>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>> 
>> Best to all
>> Mary Lou
>> ex Rhodes 22
>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>> 
>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>> 
>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>> 
>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>> 
>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>> 
>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>> 
>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>> of unfriendly weather.
>>> 
>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>> 
>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>> 
>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>> 
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>> slide.
>>> 
>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>> Annapolis area
>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Marlan Green
>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>> Mayo, MD
>>> Rhode River
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From marlangreen at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 14:46:55 2017
From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:46:55 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <7B1FF628-F52F-41D3-BDE3-4662DA90CB6A@me.com>
References: <CAEOL17eBzm6djqeYw0dWBfT93Yk0QxpUd4_3Hyy3hYjWb_NMEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <30d83e22-eea7-db8b-fb7d-27ea0280cb27@atlanticbb.net>
 <BN6PR18MB0946A8D53F4C65423D197151D1B10@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
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All,

Thanks for your feedback. I have sent an e-mail to Stan to ask him about
having a gathering after hours at the boat show. I'm waiting to hear back.

I'll be in touch once I hear from Stan.

Marlan

s/v Nautisaurus
1984 Rhodes 22 Recycled 2010
Rhodes River
Holiday Hill Marina
Mayo, MD

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:

> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> S/V AIRPOWER
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
>
>
>
> > On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
> > kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis I
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
> >> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
> that
> >> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
> purchasers
> >> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
> >>
> >> Please note our new office address and phone number
> >>
> >> Christopher P. Cowie
> >>
> >> 700 N Fairfax Street
> >> Suite 304
> >> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
> >> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Mary Lou Troy
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> >>
> >> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
> >>
> >> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
> >> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
> at
> >> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
> at
> >> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
> >> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
> >> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
> >> wrapped things up for the night.
> >>
> >> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
> >> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
> place
> >> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
> >> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
> cooler
> >> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
> >> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
> >> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
> and I
> >> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
> >> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
> >> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
> management
> >> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
> have
> >> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
> >> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
> stay
> >> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
> >> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
> might
> >> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
> >> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
> I'm
> >> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
> then.
> >>
> >> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
> equivalent
> >> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
> of
> >> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
> as
> >> we found it when we left.
> >>
> >> Good memories.
> >>
> >> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
> >> rules on such gatherings might be.
> >>
> >> Best to all
> >> Mary Lou
> >> ex Rhodes 22
> >> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
> >> Rock Hall, MD
> >>
> >>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Rhodies,
> >>>
> >>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
> >>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
> >>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
> >>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> >>>
> >>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
> >>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
> >>> gatherings away from the actual show.
> >>>
> >>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
> gathering?
> >>>
> >>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
> evening?
> >>>
> >>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> >>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
> >>> don't think I can do it alone.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
> >>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
> >>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
> >> of unfriendly weather.
> >>>
> >>> Do you think this is a good idea?
> >>>
> >>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
> >>>
> >>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> >>> slide.
> >>>
> >>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
> >>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
> >> Annapolis area
> >>> who could host at their home?   :-)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Marlan Green
> >>> s/v Nautisaurus
> >>> Holiday Hill Marina
> >>> Mayo, MD
> >>> Rhode River
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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From jjcampjr at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  4 20:50:06 2017
From: jjcampjr at yahoo.com (Joe Camp)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:50:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis
References: <961362655.29158.1501894206827.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <961362655.29158.1501894206827@mail.yahoo.com>

(Which is "City of Anna"? in Greek... or maybe Latin.)???? 
?
???? Anyway, if there is a loop in the information flow about the boat show, I wanna be in it.? I will kiss Stan; my lovely wife (a mere sixty-three today) will also kiss Stan, as long as Stan doesn't hit me after my kiss. I think Stan wants to kiss her more than me.? I will not dance with Stan (before getting drunk). I will probably be getting drunk.
???? Is there any thought given to lodging?? I want to stay in Havre de Grace.? However, that's over an hour from City Dock and has no quick and easy shuttle to downtown Annapolis (It's Greek, by the way.) so that's probably not practical. If we had a reasonably priced suite of rooms (in the Annapolis area) I could have a place to recover from "the vapors" after Stan's kiss... or the dance.? 

???? I'll bet Stan's got something up his "sleeve" (that's a Middle English word "sleve" from after the year 950 & derived from Dutch "shlof") maybe not.? So, in English: Thanks.? Stan deserves better than us (better than me).

Joe Camp
s/v John Dawson
Bohemia River, MD




From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 21:12:04 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:12:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVHEjyNMSPtg1xUG5c=hXuG5HbHSaa2if_OUh4vhk1VvA@mail.gmail.com>

Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was
supposed to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have
missed that boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of
September at the soonest.  Arrgh.

So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.

 The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but
in a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.

The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.

So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
keep you posted.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sat Aug  5 00:28:24 2017
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:28:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVHEjyNMSPtg1xUG5c=hXuG5HbHSaa2if_OUh4vhk1VvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiVHEjyNMSPtg1xUG5c=hXuG5HbHSaa2if_OUh4vhk1VvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d30da3$48326950$d8973bf0$@com>

Chris,

Is it not feasible to haul the boat on the trailer in Europe?  500+ miles in
a Rhodes might be pushing it. Your wife might not want to talk to you again.
Just thinking ...  Maybe it is worthwhile to delay a month and wait for the
original ship.  Will you miss your weather window?

Mike
s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:12 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy

Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was supposed
to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have missed that
boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of September at the
soonest.  Arrgh.

So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.

 The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but in
a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.

The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.

So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
keep you posted.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Sat Aug  5 10:28:20 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:28:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to 
party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this 
is just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; 
the final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in 
person.

All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses 
but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a 
part and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his 
girl friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR 
waterfront cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes 
now leaving Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR 
ordered the second e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to 
figure out how to get up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show. 
   Still desperately need partnering.  Still no time for partying.  
Going to the show for one thing:  To sell boats.

I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We 
gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not 
own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even 
recall the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are 
mad at me, gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, 
emotionally, without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.

Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.

Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all 
over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, 
like this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.



stan




On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> S/V AIRPOWER
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
>
>
>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis I
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>
>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>
>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>
>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>> Suite 304
>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>
>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>
>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>
>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>>>
>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>> we found it when we left.
>>>
>>> Good memories.
>>>
>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>
>>> Best to all
>>> Mary Lou
>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>
>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>
>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>
>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>>
>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>
>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>
>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>> slide.
>>>>
>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>> Annapolis area
>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marlan Green
>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>> Rhode River
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From ruckc at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  5 18:56:48 2017
From: ruckc at yahoo.com (Curtis Ruck)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:56:48 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
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It is, the traveler is held in the sleeves with a bolt, should be able to
use a quick release pin.

Here is a link to a higher resolution picture, with my 4 year old at the
tiller... sadly he may think he is holding it, but the tiller clutch is
engaged.

https://goo.gl/photos/M7pKc5RK8LcRfB2M6

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:44 PM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
wrote:

> This looks like a nice setup. Is it removable?
> Ric
>
> On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> I just assembled my own windward traveler (Harken) rig.  My old setup as it
> came from previous owner was two pulleys and two ropes... nearly impossible
> to adjust under sail.  My boat also has zero lifelines or rails to mount a
> traveler to.
>
> I mounted the Harken track on 1" OD fiberglass tubing for strength between
> backstays.  For the backstays, since i had to replace them due to a mast
> folding incident last fall, with assistance from a machine shop, took two
> short 4" pieces 1.25" OD stainless tubing and had them drill 2 holes all
> the way through the tubing.  In the holes for the back stays, i inserted
> 1/4" OD stainless tubing and flared the ends (like you would with an
> automotive brake line).  The 1/8 ends were flared while inserted in the
> traveler rail sleeve, to provide a "low" friction channel for the backstays
> to run through.  I then swaged the sleeves onto the backstay.
>
> [image: IMG_20170730_150748.jpg]
> If you look in the attached photo, behind my 6 year old daughter at the
> tiller, you can see my windward traveler rig.  And yes, I take my 2 and 4
> year old children out also...
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:35 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Ric:
> No, I didn't get the email. My address is gstewart8 at cogeco dot ca.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>] On Behalf
> Of
> Ric Stott
> Sent: July 31, 2017 7:07 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Cc: asnooch at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>
> Graham I designed and made two sets of attachments for the traveler ends. I
> have a set that I would sell as I don't feel the need for a back up set any
> longer. I emailed a pic of the installation and the drawings for it but I
> don't think the email ever reached you.
> I'll try again when I get to my office later.
> Ric
> Sv Dadventure.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 30, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for their advice and suggestions. It is amazing how many
> versions of the same thing have been developed by Rhodies. I'll let
> you know what I do.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>] On
> Behalf Of
> asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: July 29, 2017 10:41 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
> traveller
>
>
> Graham, I hope my solution helps. I've enjoyed it's use for over a
>
> decade.
>
> It's mounted on my stern rail with a traveler and spinlocks, not on
> the stays, and "out of the cockpit. If interested contact me for
> details. Burt Brody, Golden Snooch, 82 Rhodes 22.  asnooch at aol.com . See
>
> attached photo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 9:14 pm
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>
> I was planning to construct a version of the aft stay mounted traveller.
> Having mocked up the bar on my boat I realized that my motor is
> virtually unreachable. I don't have the power lift or remote controls.
> Unless I am missing something this makes the traveller arrangement
> appear to be unfeasible. Has anyone come up with a solution to this
>
> problem?
>
> I was wondering about some sort of quick disconnect that would easily
> move the traveller bar out of the way.
> Any suggestions are welcome.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 21:33:21 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 21:33:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
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Good point Mike.  After talking with other sailors who are familiar with
the area it would be a push.  We will take option one, and sail around the
coast of Spain and the Balearic Islands.  My wife is a great sailor and
navigator and doesn't have any great objections for overnight sailing.  In
fact this adventure was at her suggestion.  Of course I thought it was
brilliant.  I'll keep every one posted.

Chris T

Ch

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Is it not feasible to haul the boat on the trailer in Europe?  500+ miles
> in
> a Rhodes might be pushing it. Your wife might not want to talk to you
> again.
> Just thinking ...  Maybe it is worthwhile to delay a month and wait for the
> original ship.  Will you miss your weather window?
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:12 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
>
> Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
> Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
> make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was
> supposed
> to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have missed that
> boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of September at the
> soonest.  Arrgh.
>
> So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
> options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
> 125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
> places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
> 2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.
>
>  The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
> passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
> about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
> have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
> Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
> leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but
> in
> a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
> around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
> Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.
>
> The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
> France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
> Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
> the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
> averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
> We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.
>
> So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
> keep you posted.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
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From marlangreen at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 09:59:51 2017
From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 09:59:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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I will defer to Stan's wishes and drop the subject.

I do want to clarify that I just wanted to have a party to meet other
Rhodies. I've met Stan. I don't need to hang out with him.    :-)

My mention of the this being the last year of General Boats at the show was
simply because I thought in future years Rhodies might be less likely to
attend if General Boats wasn't at the show.

In past years I have hung around the General Boats display and met a few
Rhodies, but only a handful. The boat show is huge and its hard to connect
with people when there are so many things drawing our attention.  I thought
it would be nice to have a specified time and location where we could get
together - even if it is just a bar in downtown Annapolis.

However, I don't want to make Stan uncomfortable or burden him in anyway.
So, I'll let this go.

sincerely,

Marlan





On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to
> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this is
> just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; the
> final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in person.
>
> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses
> but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a part
> and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his girl
> friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR waterfront
> cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes now leaving
> Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR ordered the second
> e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to figure out how to get
> up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show.   Still desperately need
> partnering.  Still no time for partying.  Going to the show for one thing:
> To sell boats.
>
> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We
> gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not
> own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even recall
> the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are mad at me,
> gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, emotionally,
> without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>
> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>
> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all
> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, like
> this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>
>
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>
>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>>
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>>>> that
>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>>> purchasers
>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>>> at
>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>>>> at
>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>>> place
>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>>> cooler
>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>>>> and I
>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>>> management
>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>>> have
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>>> stay
>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>>>> might
>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>> I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>>>> equivalent
>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>>> of
>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>>>> as
>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>
>>>> Good memories.
>>>>
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>> evening?
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>>>
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>>
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ---
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>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________
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>
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sun Aug  6 10:18:04 2017
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 10:18:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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 <7B1FF628-F52F-41D3-BDE3-4662DA90CB6A@me.com>
 <14170a48-b67a-990c-3934-5ef79ec80970@rhodes22.com>
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Message-ID: <006501d30ebe$d2beefa0$783ccee0$@ebsmed.com>

I plan to be at the show and would very much like to meet up with all of the Rhodies who attend.  Let's pick a restaurant and a day (weekend is best for me) to get together after the show.  Stan can join us if he wishes to do so.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of marlangreen at gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:00 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

I will defer to Stan's wishes and drop the subject.

I do want to clarify that I just wanted to have a party to meet other
Rhodies. I've met Stan. I don't need to hang out with him.    :-)

My mention of the this being the last year of General Boats at the show was simply because I thought in future years Rhodies might be less likely to attend if General Boats wasn't at the show.

In past years I have hung around the General Boats display and met a few Rhodies, but only a handful. The boat show is huge and its hard to connect with people when there are so many things drawing our attention.  I thought it would be nice to have a specified time and location where we could get together - even if it is just a bar in downtown Annapolis.

However, I don't want to make Stan uncomfortable or burden him in anyway.
So, I'll let this go.

sincerely,

Marlan





On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to 
> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and 
> this is just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it 
> safe; the final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in person.
>
> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid 
> responses but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner 
> called for a part and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we 
> hung up, his girl friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into 
> our tiny 2 BR waterfront cottage and we finished our first inboard 
> e-propulsion Rhodes now leaving Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out 
> and a couple in OR ordered the second e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to figure out how to get
> up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show.   Still desperately need
> partnering.  Still no time for partying.  Going to the show for one thing:
> To sell boats.
>
> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. 
> We gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He 
> did not own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  
> I even recall the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are mad at me,
> gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, emotionally,
> without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>
> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>
> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all 
> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, 
> like this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>
>
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>
>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>>
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis 
>> <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the 
>>> beer kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up 
>>> (grin)
>>>
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie 
>>> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years 
>>>> is that Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to 
>>>> prospective purchasers during the show and to socialize after show 
>>>> hours.
>>>>
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile 
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the 
>>>> late 90s early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I 
>>>> remember one at Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a 
>>>> small informal one at Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) 
>>>> The problem with the restaurants during the show is that they are 
>>>> super crowded and Stan (and Elton back then) couldn't get off until 
>>>> the show had closed and they had wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had 
>>>> catered right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered 
>>>> by the BBQ place Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of 
>>>> us brought munchies, bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for 
>>>> drinks - the wheeled cooler idea. I think the caterer supplied the 
>>>> tables and I don't remember who supplied paper goods and utensils. 
>>>> I remember that it seemed  like a big undertaking but one of our 
>>>> members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I distinctly remember 
>>>> her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall correctly, she made 
>>>> the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael Meltzer (who just 
>>>> chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management to let 
>>>> the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have 
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General 
>>>> Boats. I believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone 
>>>> authorized to stay after the show closing. I collected the names of 
>>>> attendees and made nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on 
>>>> it from 1998 (that might have been for a restaurant gathering) and 
>>>> one with 42 on it from 1999 - that was a big catered gathering at 
>>>> the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>> I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from 
>>>> back then.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 
>>>> equivalent of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we 
>>>> took over a couple of the vacated booths of other vendors and were 
>>>> very careful to leave all as we found it when we left.
>>>>
>>>> Good memories.
>>>>
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what 
>>>> current rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 
>>>>> 22 at the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder 
>>>>> if it would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and 
>>>>> Stan to meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging 
>>>>> out with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal 
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a 
>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday 
>>>>> evening?
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm 
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to 
>>>>> help? I don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a 
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible 
>>>>> to find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is 
>>>>> the risk
>>>>>
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll 
>>>>> let it slide.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or 
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in 
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ 
>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> ______________________________ ____________________ 
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma 
>>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
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>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
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>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>>
>
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From scranevmd at verizon.net  Sun Aug  6 10:56:32 2017
From: scranevmd at verizon.net (Susan Crane)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 10:56:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <006501d30ebe$d2beefa0$783ccee0$@ebsmed.com>
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 <14170a48-b67a-990c-3934-5ef79ec80970@rhodes22.com>
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Message-ID: <007801d30ec4$315d18c0$94174a40$@net>

I would like to join the party!

Susan
s/v Whimsy
Bohemia River
Chesapeake Bay

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Weisner
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:18 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

I plan to be at the show and would very much like to meet up with all of the Rhodies who attend.  Let's pick a restaurant and a day (weekend is best for me) to get together after the show.  Stan can join us if he wishes to do so.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of marlangreen at gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:00 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9

I will defer to Stan's wishes and drop the subject.

I do want to clarify that I just wanted to have a party to meet other
Rhodies. I've met Stan. I don't need to hang out with him.    :-)

My mention of the this being the last year of General Boats at the show was simply because I thought in future years Rhodies might be less likely to attend if General Boats wasn't at the show.

In past years I have hung around the General Boats display and met a few Rhodies, but only a handful. The boat show is huge and its hard to connect with people when there are so many things drawing our attention.  I thought it would be nice to have a specified time and location where we could get together - even if it is just a bar in downtown Annapolis.

However, I don't want to make Stan uncomfortable or burden him in anyway.
So, I'll let this go.

sincerely,

Marlan





On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to 
> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and 
> this is just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it 
> safe; the final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in person.
>
> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid 
> responses but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner 
> called for a part and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we 
> hung up, his girl friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into 
> our tiny 2 BR waterfront cottage and we finished our first inboard 
> e-propulsion Rhodes now leaving Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out 
> and a couple in OR ordered the second e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to figure out how to get
> up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show.   Still desperately need
> partnering.  Still no time for partying.  Going to the show for one thing:
> To sell boats.
>
> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. 
> We gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He 
> did not own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.
> I even recall the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are mad at me,
> gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, emotionally,
> without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>
> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>
> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all 
> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, 
> like this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>
>
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>
>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>>
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis 
>> <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the 
>>> beer kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up
>>> (grin)
>>>
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie 
>>> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years 
>>>> is that Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to 
>>>> prospective purchasers during the show and to socialize after show 
>>>> hours.
>>>>
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile 
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the 
>>>> late 90s early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I 
>>>> remember one at Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a 
>>>> small informal one at Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) 
>>>> The problem with the restaurants during the show is that they are 
>>>> super crowded and Stan (and Elton back then) couldn't get off until 
>>>> the show had closed and they had wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had 
>>>> catered right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered 
>>>> by the BBQ place Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of 
>>>> us brought munchies, bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for 
>>>> drinks - the wheeled cooler idea. I think the caterer supplied the 
>>>> tables and I don't remember who supplied paper goods and utensils.
>>>> I remember that it seemed  like a big undertaking but one of our 
>>>> members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I distinctly remember 
>>>> her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall correctly, she made 
>>>> the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael Meltzer (who just 
>>>> chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management to let 
>>>> the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have 
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General 
>>>> Boats. I believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone 
>>>> authorized to stay after the show closing. I collected the names of 
>>>> attendees and made nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on 
>>>> it from 1998 (that might have been for a restaurant gathering) and 
>>>> one with 42 on it from 1999 - that was a big catered gathering at 
>>>> the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>> I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from 
>>>> back then.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 
>>>> equivalent of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we 
>>>> took over a couple of the vacated booths of other vendors and were 
>>>> very careful to leave all as we found it when we left.
>>>>
>>>> Good memories.
>>>>
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what 
>>>> current rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes
>>>>> 22 at the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder 
>>>>> if it would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and 
>>>>> Stan to meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging 
>>>>> out with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal 
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a 
>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday 
>>>>> evening?
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm 
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to 
>>>>> help? I don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a 
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible 
>>>>> to find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is 
>>>>> the risk
>>>>>
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll 
>>>>> let it slide.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or 
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in 
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Sun Aug  6 12:19:48 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:19:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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General information as pertaining to partying:

General Boats' premiere space, size and corner waterfront location at 
the Annapolis Show, earned by being at the show every year since year 
one, is one of General Boats largest intangible assets.  If you are a 
start up or younger company wanting that location, you would have to buy 
General Boats.  As you might expect, it is a very costly annual 
expense.  I had to keep Elton from literally jumping out of the boat and 
chocking a Rhodie (most know) to death as he stood in front of the key 
display boat telling prospects where they could buy used Rhodes.  A case 
of innocents abroad; we go to the show to sell boats. /*Partying at 
General Boats space after hours*/ is great.  The view is awesome.  
Living on one of the boats I, and any others who care to spend the night 
on board a Show Rhodes, will be the last to leave the party.

stan

On 8/6/17 9:59 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> I will defer to Stan's wishes and drop the subject.
>
> I do want to clarify that I just wanted to have a party to meet other
> Rhodies. I've met Stan. I don't need to hang out with him.    :-)
>
> My mention of the this being the last year of General Boats at the show was
> simply because I thought in future years Rhodies might be less likely to
> attend if General Boats wasn't at the show.
>
> In past years I have hung around the General Boats display and met a few
> Rhodies, but only a handful. The boat show is huge and its hard to connect
> with people when there are so many things drawing our attention.  I thought
> it would be nice to have a specified time and location where we could get
> together - even if it is just a bar in downtown Annapolis.
>
> However, I don't want to make Stan uncomfortable or burden him in anyway.
> So, I'll let this go.
>
> sincerely,
>
> Marlan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to
>> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this is
>> just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; the
>> final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in person.
>>
>> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses
>> but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a part
>> and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his girl
>> friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR waterfront
>> cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes now leaving
>> Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR ordered the second
>> e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to figure out how to get
>> up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show.   Still desperately need
>> partnering.  Still no time for partying.  Going to the show for one thing:
>> To sell boats.
>>
>> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We
>> gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not
>> own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even recall
>> the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are mad at me,
>> gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, emotionally,
>> without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>>
>> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>>
>> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all
>> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, like
>> this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>>
>>
>>
>> stan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>>
>>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>>
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Enosis I
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>>>>> that
>>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>>>> purchasers
>>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>>
>>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>>
>>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>>> Suite 304
>>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>>
>>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>>>> at
>>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>>>>> at
>>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>>
>>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>>>> place
>>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>>>> cooler
>>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>>>>> and I
>>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>>>> management
>>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>>>> have
>>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>>>> stay
>>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>>>>> might
>>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>>>> then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>>>>> equivalent
>>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>>>> of
>>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>>>>> as
>>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good memories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best to all
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>>> evening?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>>>>
>>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>>>
>>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>>
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
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From morrisix at comcast.net  Sun Aug  6 12:27:47 2017
From: morrisix at comcast.net (Bill)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 09:27:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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Besides boats, does Stan ever bring goodies for sale to the shows? Like the
new tillers or  new traveler system? With all the Rhodies, seems like he
could do some good business on these things!



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From stan at rhodes22.com  Sun Aug  6 12:54:46 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:54:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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thanks Bill, like your thinking.  Actually last year we took some 
captains swivel seats and folding deck seats and only sold a few of the 
latter since they also work for other boats.  The traveler invention and 
the exclusive all glass tillers only work for Rich Rhodies.

You sure you don't want to get into the sailboat business?

ss

On 8/6/17 12:27 PM, Bill wrote:
> Besides boats, does Stan ever bring goodies for sale to the shows? Like the
> new tillers or  new traveler system? With all the Rhodies, seems like he
> could do some good business on these things!
>
>
>
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From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  6 16:13:13 2017
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 20:13:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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I met Stan at a boat show in Milwaukee, WI in late 80's. Sent him a $35 deposit on a future boat purchase. Drove to Edenton in '94 to buy a recycled '86. Those are the only two times I've met Stan in person.

 Talked (he might say argued) with him several times over the years since. Now own my second R22, a '98 I bought from a seller here in Texas.

 This is a great boat and I really appreciate all Stan has meant to us with his boat.  

The Admiral and I will be coming to the area for a tourist trip the end of September and are planning to spend a day at the boat show (was thinking Saturday but that could change if need be). We would love getting to meet as many of our "friends" on 'Da List as possible. I will be very sad that I'll not get to meet Rummy until I get to the other side. I'd be all in for an after show 'party' at the GB slot if Stan will allow it. I would even like to shake his hand again!!

Please don't not do this; I so would like to put faces and voices with all the email names 

Sent from my iPhone

Charles 

s/v Daydreams 
98 R 22

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> thanks Bill, like your thinking.  Actually last year we took some captains swivel seats and folding deck seats and only sold a few of the latter since they also work for other boats.  The traveler invention and the exclusive all glass tillers only work for Rich Rhodies.
> 
> You sure you don't want to get into the sailboat business?
> 
> ss
> 
>> On 8/6/17 12:27 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Besides boats, does Stan ever bring goodies for sale to the shows? Like the
>> new tillers or  new traveler system? With all the Rhodies, seems like he
>> could do some good business on these things!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Sun Aug  6 17:07:29 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 17:07:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re:  Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <f8845537-e714-3665-9a98-a0f07d82466f@rhodes22.com>
References: <f8845537-e714-3665-9a98-a0f07d82466f@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <ffd48ec0-83d0-66c3-7212-33283370164b@rhodes22.com>


Charles, didn't this get through?

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
Date: 	Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:19:48 -0400
From: 	Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: 	The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>




General information as pertaining to partying:

General Boats' premiere space, size and corner waterfront location at 
the Annapolis Show, earned by being at the show every year since year 
one, is one of General Boats largest intangible assets.  If you are a 
start up or younger company wanting that location, you would have to buy 
General Boats.  As you might expect, it is a very costly annual 
expense.  I had to keep Elton from literally jumping out of the boat and 
chocking a Rhodie (most know) to death as he stood in front of the key 
display boat telling prospects where they could buy used Rhodes.  A case 
of innocents abroad; we go to the show to sell boats. /*Partying at 
General Boats space after hours*/ is great.  The view is awesome.  
Living on one of the boats I, and any others who care to spend the night 
on board a Show Rhodes, will be the last to leave the party.

stan

On 8/6/17 9:59 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
> I will defer to Stan's wishes and drop the subject.
>
> I do want to clarify that I just wanted to have a party to meet other
> Rhodies. I've met Stan. I don't need to hang out with him.    :-)
>
> My mention of the this being the last year of General Boats at the show was
> simply because I thought in future years Rhodies might be less likely to
> attend if General Boats wasn't at the show.
>
> In past years I have hung around the General Boats display and met a few
> Rhodies, but only a handful. The boat show is huge and its hard to connect
> with people when there are so many things drawing our attention.  I thought
> it would be nice to have a specified time and location where we could get
> together - even if it is just a bar in downtown Annapolis.
>
> However, I don't want to make Stan uncomfortable or burden him in anyway.
> So, I'll let this go.
>
> sincerely,
>
> Marlan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Stan Spitzer<stan at rhodes22.com>  wrote:
>
>> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to
>> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this is
>> just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; the
>> final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in person.
>>
>> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses
>> but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a part
>> and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his girl
>> friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR waterfront
>> cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes now leaving
>> Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR ordered the second
>> e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to figure out how to get
>> up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show.   Still desperately need
>> partnering.  Still no time for partying.  Going to the show for one thing:
>> To sell boats.
>>
>> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We
>> gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not
>> own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even recall
>> the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are mad at me,
>> gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, emotionally,
>> without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>>
>> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>>
>> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all
>> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, like
>> this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>>
>>
>>
>> stan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>>
>>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis<chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>>
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Enosis I
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie<ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>>>>> that
>>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>>>> purchasers
>>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>>
>>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>>
>>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>>> Suite 304
>>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>>
>>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>>>> at
>>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>>>>> at
>>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>>
>>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>>>> place
>>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>>>> cooler
>>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>>>>> and I
>>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>>>> management
>>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>>>> have
>>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>>>> stay
>>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>>>>> might
>>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>>>> then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>>>>> equivalent
>>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>>>> of
>>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>>>>> as
>>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good memories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best to all
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM,marlangreen at gmail.com  wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>>> evening?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>>>>
>>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>>>
>>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>>
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  6 18:36:15 2017
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 22:36:15 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re:  Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
In-Reply-To: <ffd48ec0-83d0-66c3-7212-33283370164b@rhodes22.com>
References: <f8845537-e714-3665-9a98-a0f07d82466f@rhodes22.com>,
 <ffd48ec0-83d0-66c3-7212-33283370164b@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <CY1PR18MB0647F6C6CBA5178F12B86FCBD9B40@CY1PR18MB0647.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Stan
Yes, I got that right after I sent my message. I'll be there to party with you 

Sent from my iPhone

Charles 

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Charles, didn't this get through?
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:    Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> Date:    Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:19:48 -0400
> From:    Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
> To:    The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> General information as pertaining to partying:
> 
> General Boats' premiere space, size and corner waterfront location at the Annapolis Show, earned by being at the show every year since year one, is one of General Boats largest intangible assets.  If you are a start up or younger company wanting that location, you would have to buy General Boats.  As you might expect, it is a very costly annual expense.  I had to keep Elton from literally jumping out of the boat and chocking a Rhodie (most know) to death as he stood in front of the key display boat telling prospects where they could buy used Rhodes.  A case of innocents abroad; we go to the show to sell boats. /*Partying at General Boats space after hours*/ is great.  The view is awesome.  Living on one of the boats I, and any others who care to spend the night on board a Show Rhodes, will be the last to leave the party.
> 
> stan
> 
>> On 8/6/17 9:59 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>> I will defer to Stan's wishes and drop the subject.
>> 
>> I do want to clarify that I just wanted to have a party to meet other
>> Rhodies. I've met Stan. I don't need to hang out with him.    :-)
>> 
>> My mention of the this being the last year of General Boats at the show was
>> simply because I thought in future years Rhodies might be less likely to
>> attend if General Boats wasn't at the show.
>> 
>> In past years I have hung around the General Boats display and met a few
>> Rhodies, but only a handful. The boat show is huge and its hard to connect
>> with people when there are so many things drawing our attention.  I thought
>> it would be nice to have a specified time and location where we could get
>> together - even if it is just a bar in downtown Annapolis.
>> 
>> However, I don't want to make Stan uncomfortable or burden him in anyway.
>> So, I'll let this go.
>> 
>> sincerely,
>> 
>> Marlan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Stan Spitzer<stan at rhodes22.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to
>>> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this is
>>> just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; the
>>> final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in person.
>>> 
>>> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses
>>> but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a part
>>> and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his girl
>>> friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR waterfront
>>> cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes now leaving
>>> Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR ordered the second
>>> e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to figure out how to get
>>> up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show.   Still desperately need
>>> partnering.  Still no time for partying.  Going to the show for one thing:
>>> To sell boats.
>>> 
>>> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We
>>> gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not
>>> own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even recall
>>> the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are mad at me,
>>> gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, emotionally,
>>> without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>>> 
>>> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>>> 
>>> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all
>>> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, like
>>> this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis<chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> Enosis I
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie<ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>>>>> purchasers
>>>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>>>> Suite 304
>>>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>>>>> cooler
>>>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>>>>> management
>>>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>>>>> stay
>>>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>>>>> then.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>>>>>> equivalent
>>>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good memories.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best to all
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM,marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>>>> evening?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>>>> go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/list  ______________________________
>>>>>> ____________________
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/mailma
>>>>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  7 12:49:22 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 09:49:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang Mast Attachment
In-Reply-To: <2016004582.5343570.1501792222488@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <9ffb85a41001131020m2b2f0895i77764b8fd95165e2@mail.gmail.com>
 <0BED360B-ACF0-486C-AA9A-07B9FAECADFA@gmail.com>
 <2016004582.5343570.1501792222488@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1502124562285-53585.post@n5.nabble.com>

I love it.    My primary sailing is single handed in small water with land
affect, so a preventer scares me    I think I'd test the fuse often so I've
just been holding the boom down.   My solo sailing is with the top down
anyway unless the wind is light, and if the wind is light I sometimes take
the Bucc 18 out since it planes  quickly solo but overpowers fast.   Your
vang would work well for me.   Is the strap a Kayak strap or something
heavier?    What did you mount to the boom?    It looks like its just 4:1?

Its not the half knot, though I had fun 'racing' a force 5 Saturday.   Of
course he was just playing with me, but  I did let out a little more jib
then prudent with a dozing girlfriend so I could pace him.   Its not the
Catalina 22 that goes out in heavy with a crew of three and shows the
advantage of rail meat and his iron lifting keel (but somehow I keep
pointing better).   Its just the fact I hate bad sail shape.   

Alex





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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  7 13:36:46 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:36:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anybody playing on Lake Erie in September?
Message-ID: <1502127406130-53586.post@n5.nabble.com>

Weather permitting (as always) We plan to play on Erie launching from Port
Huron September 14 (Thursday) and taking out on or before September 19.  
Some days will likely be on shore if the weather is dicey, the trip may
start late, etc.   You know the drill.   We may marina hop East a couple
days, check out the islands or hide in Sandusky bay.   There isn't an
alternate destination for weather yet, maybe return to Kentucky lake or try
Lake Huron, but port Huron Erie would be less then half the trailer time
unless the whole week is forecast to be ugly.   Since a couple boats sail
out of Cleveland and Toledo,  if somebody wants to try to meet in the middle
let us know and we'll head the appropriate direction. 

Alex and Tamiko



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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 14:52:52 2017
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 14:52:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anybody playing on Lake Erie in September?
In-Reply-To: <1502127406130-53586.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502127406130-53586.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Alex,

Come to Cleveland and enjoy the Flats and/or a premier club on the lake.
The 6 mile breakwall offers protection during the worst September weather.

Rick

From lsr3 at nyu.edu  Mon Aug  7 18:09:23 2017
From: lsr3 at nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:09:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1981 R22 for sale /sv Miracles in Mill Basin
	Brooklyn
Message-ID: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi Rhodies,

I want to thank Stan, Elton (i will miss him, although we hardly knew one
another) Roger Pihlaja who aided me through tough times with my centerboard
trunk restoration, Mike Weisner who helped me rig the boat my first time in
'07.
I have to sell my 81 Rhodes after finally completing the above the waterline
paint job (Total Boat, Jamestown distrib) We are planning a move to upstate
NY next year and my income and health will not allow me to do the basic
maintenance and rigging required any longer.

heres the info from my Craigslist ad:
1981 Rhodes 22 Sailboat
22 feet long overall, 8 ft beam,  Overall with mast ht: 36 ft, Shoal draft
keel & centerboard
Draft 2ft, Kick up rudder

Restored by owner.  Recent paint job above waterline, cockpit & deck.
Centerboard and trunk restored 2012
Harken headsail furler 
135% Genoa and Full Battens on the Main purchased new in 2008
 Single line, slab reefing installed on main
 Tohatsu 6hp 4 stroke outoboard with Tohatsu remote for throttle and shift
in cockpit
 engine service every season, works great.
 Manufacturer?s mast raising system included
 Custom cover made (2014) for storage w mast up included
 2 anchors: 1 Bruce, 1 Danforth
 boarding ladder, 
 New electrical system, Xantrex Single battery monitor, New Battery July
2017,
 Outboard has alternator to charge battery & 5W Solar charger w regulator
 Raymarine ST 40 depth finder, new transom transducer 2017
 Standard Horizon VHF,  Sony AM FM CD w iPod input / 4 speaker system
 On demand water pump, sink, navigation lights all work,  Johnson bilge pump
 Safety gear included, 2 life lines, 6 life vests, 1 harness.
 Owners manuals on all devices including engine
 original owner of Tohatsu 6hp, maintenance records.

 $3000.
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53588/DSCF3831.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53588/DSCF3833.jpg> 
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From lsr3 at nyu.edu  Mon Aug  7 18:19:54 2017
From: lsr3 at nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:19:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1981 R22 for sale /sv Miracles in Mill Basin
	Brooklyn
In-Reply-To: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1502144394153-53589.post@n5.nabble.com>

More Pics of Miracles
I wasnt sure how many I could post on the list at one time these days?

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3832.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3837.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3835.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3834.jpg> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 20:30:59 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 20:30:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1981 R22 for sale /sv Miracles in Mill Basin
	Brooklyn
In-Reply-To: <1502144394153-53589.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiVFSwohBEEm8UYMC7iwCpoBv17hcqD7ZH-N=nT3gCpRCA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Lou,
             Check the overall mast height, it is a bit tall I think.  More
like 29 feet?  The boat is an excellent value.

Chris Geankoplis


On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu> wrote:

> More Pics of Miracles
> I wasnt sure how many I could post on the list at one time these days?
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3832.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3837.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3835.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3834.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/n53589/DSCF3811.jpg>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 20:59:27 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 20:59:27 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-2&3
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From koatimundi100 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 22:06:34 2017
From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:06:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4047, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2206.1501973821.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.2206.1501973821.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
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Annapolis & celebrating Stan.

Can 100% commit today, but I'll try to come up from Florida. There are quite a few other events about that time--like my HS class's "75th Birthday Party" in Norwalk CT. Regardless, I'll meet Chris G's bid and add  at least 10 (which would mean 60).  It will help to have a date for the R22 brouhaha. Hope the beverages can be more adventurous than ice cubes & pop!

Looking forward....

Sent from my iPhone

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>   1. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Chris Geankoplis)
>   2. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Shawn Boles)
>   3. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Chris Geankoplis)
>   4. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Chris Cowie)
>   5. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (michael meltzer)
>   6. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Robert Louis Weiss)
>   7. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Theodore Boender)
>   8. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (marlangreen at gmail.com)
>   9. Annapolis (Joe Camp)
>  10. Sailing Spain-previously Italy (Chris Geankoplis)
>  11. Re: Sailing Spain-previously Italy (Michael D. Weisner)
>  12. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Stan Spitzer)
>  13. Re: motor access with aft stay mounted traveller (Curtis Ruck)
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 18:00:37 -0400
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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> 
> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis I
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>> 
>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>> 
>> Christopher P. Cowie
>> 
>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>> Suite 304
>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> 
>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>> 
>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>> wrapped things up for the night.
>> 
>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>> 
>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>> we found it when we left.
>> 
>> Good memories.
>> 
>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>> 
>> Best to all
>> Mary Lou
>> ex Rhodes 22
>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>> 
>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>> 
>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>> 
>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>> 
>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>> 
>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>> 
>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>> of unfriendly weather.
>>> 
>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>> 
>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>> 
>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>> 
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>> slide.
>>> 
>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>> Annapolis area
>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Marlan Green
>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>> Mayo, MD
>>> Rhode River
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:47:31 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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> Hi all -
> 
> I will also kick in some bucks ,
> together with a  photo of Sweet Baboo. Suggest others might do the same in
> honor of Stan, GB, & all of  our boats.
> 
> Where do I send the money and pic? Sorry to miss the fun.
> 
> Cheers,
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
> 
> PS At 74, I told Stan that if I had six million dollars and was 20 years
> younger I'd have a shot at continuing GB. He slyly  pointed out that I WAS
> 20 years younger.
> Should anything evolve, best I can do would be as a small investor in a
> noble endeavor...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2017 3:00 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis I
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>> purchasers
>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>> 
>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>> 
>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>> 
>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>> Suite 304
>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>> 
>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>> 
>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>> at
>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>> 
>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>> place
>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>> cooler
>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and
>> I
>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>> management
>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>> have
>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>> stay
>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>> I'm
>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>> then.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>> of
>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>> we found it when we left.
>>> 
>>> Good memories.
>>> 
>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>> 
>>> Best to all
>>> Mary Lou
>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>> 
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>> 
>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>> 
>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>> gathering?
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>> evening?
>>>> 
>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>> 
>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>> 
>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>> slide.
>>>> 
>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>> Annapolis area
>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Marlan Green
>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>> Rhode River
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:43:24 -0400
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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> Great Idea Shawn!  We can send a couple of our "Best" picts and comments
> about Stan, GBC and the boat!  I like the donation idea that Michael M.
> mentioned that would be nice, maybe we could buy something for Stan and
> Rose with the leftover if everyone doesn't drink it up.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis I
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> I will also kick in some bucks ,
>> together with a  photo of Sweet Baboo. Suggest others might do the same in
>> honor of Stan, GB, & all of  our boats.
>> 
>> Where do I send the money and pic? Sorry to miss the fun.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Shawn
>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>> 
>> PS At 74, I told Stan that if I had six million dollars and was 20 years
>> younger I'd have a shot at continuing GB. He slyly  pointed out that I WAS
>> 20 years younger.
>> Should anything evolve, best I can do would be as a small investor in a
>> noble endeavor...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017 3:00 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>> that
>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>> purchasers
>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>> 
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>> 
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>> 
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late
>> 90s
>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>> at
>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>> at
>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan
>> (and
>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they
>> had
>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>> 
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>> place
>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>> cooler
>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a
>> big
>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>> and
>>> I
>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>> management
>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>> have
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>> stay
>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>> might
>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>> I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>> then.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>> equivalent
>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>> of
>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>> as
>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>> 
>>>> Good memories.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what
>> current
>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>> 
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22
>> at
>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>> gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>> evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help?
>> I
>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the
>> risk
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let
>> it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>> archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 00:38:29 +0000
> From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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> 
> I will provide the tape.
> 
> 
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> 
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> Suite 300<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
> Washington, DC 20007<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
> 202.342.2711<tel:202.342.2711> ex.204 ? 202.342.2691<tel:202.342.2691> fax ?202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> 
> 
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> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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> 
> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com<mailto:chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis I
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
> 
> Please note our new office address and phone number
> 
> Christopher P. Cowie
> 
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> Suite 304
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> 
> 
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> 
> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
> 
> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
> wrapped things up for the night.
> 
> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
> 
> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
> we found it when we left.
> 
> Good memories.
> 
> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
> rules on such gatherings might be.
> 
> Best to all
> Mary Lou
> ex Rhodes 22
> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com<mailto:marlangreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Rhodies,
> 
> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
> 
> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
> gatherings away from the actual show.
> 
> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
> 
> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
> 
> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
> don't think I can do it alone.
> 
> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
> of unfriendly weather.
> 
> Do you think this is a good idea?
> 
> Do you think it is something you would attend?
> 
> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
> 
> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
> slide.
> 
> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
> Annapolis area
> who could host at their home?   :-)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marlan Green
> s/v Nautisaurus
> Holiday Hill Marina
> Mayo, MD
> Rhode River
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 08:06:19 -0500
> From: michael meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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> 
> Good to see you around too, nice memories. Wondering if it going to get
> pulled off. For what it worth for the group, it after hours so does not
> effect the show for Stan. The show is happy to cooperate, keeps the vendors
> Happy. Stan might protest a bit but he does enjoy the attention
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!
>> 
>> More details coming about what we did back then.
>> 
>> Good to hear from you.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
>>> 
>>> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
>>> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
>>> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
>>> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
>>> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
>>> becomes a donation if you can not show
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>>>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love
>>>> to
>>>> participate if you can pull it off .
>>>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> Hampton Bays
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> 
>>>> the
>>>> 
>>>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>>>>> 
>>>> socialize
>>>> 
>>>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings
>>>>> away
>>>>> from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>> gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>> evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> 
>>>> willing
>>>> 
>>>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>>>>> 
>>>> think
>>>> 
>>>>> I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>>>>> 
>>>> location
>>>> 
>>>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location
>>>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>>>>> 
>>>> area
>>>> 
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>> 
>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> 
>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:50:27 +0000
> From: Robert Louis Weiss <rweiss at siu.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
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> I'm planning to attend Friday and Saturday and would love to attend a gathering at the show. After hours sounds like a good idea to me.
> 
> Bob
> Beach Spring
> 
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of michael meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 9:06:19 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> 
> Good to see you around too, nice memories. Wondering if it going to get
> pulled off. For what it worth for the group, it after hours so does not
> effect the show for Stan. The show is happy to cooperate, keeps the vendors
> Happy. Stan might protest a bit but he does enjoy the attention
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!
>> 
>> More details coming about what we did back then.
>> 
>> Good to hear from you.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
>>> 
>>> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
>>> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
>>> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
>>> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
>>> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
>>> becomes a donation if you can not show
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>>>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love
>>>> to
>>>> participate if you can pull it off .
>>>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> Hampton Bays
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> 
>>>> the
>>>> 
>>>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>>>>> 
>>>> socialize
>>>> 
>>>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings
>>>>> away
>>>>> from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>> gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>> evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> 
>>>> willing
>>>> 
>>>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>>>>> 
>>>> think
>>>> 
>>>>> I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>>>>> 
>>>> location
>>>> 
>>>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location
>>>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>>>>> 
>>>> area
>>>> 
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:54:47 -0400
> From: Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> Message-ID: <7B1FF628-F52F-41D3-BDE3-4662DA90CB6A at me.com>
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> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ted
> 
> S/V AIRPOWER 
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis I
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>> 
>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>> 
>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>> 
>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>> Suite 304
>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>> 
>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>> 
>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>> 
>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>> we found it when we left.
>>> 
>>> Good memories.
>>> 
>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>> 
>>> Best to all
>>> Mary Lou
>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>> 
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>> 
>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>> 
>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>> 
>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>> 
>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>> 
>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>> slide.
>>>> 
>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>> Annapolis area
>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Marlan Green
>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>> Rhode River
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
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>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:46:55 -0400
> From: "marlangreen at gmail.com" <marlangreen at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> All,
> 
> Thanks for your feedback. I have sent an e-mail to Stan to ask him about
> having a gathering after hours at the boat show. I'm waiting to hear back.
> 
> I'll be in touch once I hear from Stan.
> 
> Marlan
> 
> s/v Nautisaurus
> 1984 Rhodes 22 Recycled 2010
> Rhodes River
> Holiday Hill Marina
> Mayo, MD
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>> that
>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>> purchasers
>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>> 
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>> 
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>> 
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>> at
>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>> at
>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>> 
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>> place
>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>> cooler
>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>> and I
>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>> management
>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>> have
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>> stay
>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>> might
>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>> I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>> then.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>> equivalent
>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>> of
>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>> as
>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>> 
>>>> Good memories.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>> 
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>> gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>> evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:50:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis
> Message-ID: <961362655.29158.1501894206827 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> (Which is "City of Anna"? in Greek... or maybe Latin.)???? 
> ?
> ???? Anyway, if there is a loop in the information flow about the boat show, I wanna be in it.? I will kiss Stan; my lovely wife (a mere sixty-three today) will also kiss Stan, as long as Stan doesn't hit me after my kiss. I think Stan wants to kiss her more than me.? I will not dance with Stan (before getting drunk). I will probably be getting drunk.
> ???? Is there any thought given to lodging?? I want to stay in Havre de Grace.? However, that's over an hour from City Dock and has no quick and easy shuttle to downtown Annapolis (It's Greek, by the way.) so that's probably not practical. If we had a reasonably priced suite of rooms (in the Annapolis area) I could have a place to recover from "the vapors" after Stan's kiss... or the dance.? 
> 
> ???? I'll bet Stan's got something up his "sleeve" (that's a Middle English word "sleve" from after the year 950 & derived from Dutch "shlof") maybe not.? So, in English: Thanks.? Stan deserves better than us (better than me).
> 
> Joe Camp
> s/v John Dawson
> Bohemia River, MD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:12:04 -0400
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
> Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
> make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was
> supposed to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have
> missed that boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of
> September at the soonest.  Arrgh.
> 
> So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
> options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
> 125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
> places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
> 2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.
> 
> The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
> passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
> about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
> have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
> Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
> leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but
> in a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
> around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
> Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.
> 
> The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
> France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
> Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
> the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
> averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
> We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.
> 
> So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
> keep you posted.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:28:24 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
> Message-ID: <000301d30da3$48326950$d8973bf0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Is it not feasible to haul the boat on the trailer in Europe?  500+ miles in
> a Rhodes might be pushing it. Your wife might not want to talk to you again.
> Just thinking ...  Maybe it is worthwhile to delay a month and wait for the
> original ship.  Will you miss your weather window?
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:12 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
> 
> Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
> Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
> make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was supposed
> to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have missed that
> boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of September at the
> soonest.  Arrgh.
> 
> So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
> options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
> 125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
> places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
> 2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.
> 
> The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
> passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
> about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
> have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
> Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
> leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but in
> a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
> around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
> Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.
> 
> The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
> France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
> Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
> the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
> averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
> We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.
> 
> So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
> keep you posted.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:28:20 -0400
> From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
> Message-ID: <14170a48-b67a-990c-3934-5ef79ec80970 at rhodes22.com>
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> 
> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to 
> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this 
> is just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; 
> the final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in 
> person.
> 
> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses 
> but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a 
> part and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his 
> girl friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR 
> waterfront cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes 
> now leaving Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR 
> ordered the second e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to 
> figure out how to get up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show. 
>   Still desperately need partnering.  Still no time for partying.  
> Going to the show for one thing:  To sell boats.
> 
> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We 
> gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not 
> own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even 
> recall the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are 
> mad at me, gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, 
> emotionally, without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
> 
> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
> 
> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all 
> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, 
> like this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
> 
> 
> 
> stan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>> 
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>> 
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>> 
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>> 
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>> 
>>>> Good memories.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>> 
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:56:48 +0000
> From: Curtis Ruck <ruckc at yahoo.com>
> To: Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>, Curtis Ruck
>    <ruckc at yahoo.com>,  The Rhodes 22 Email List
>    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
>    traveller
> Message-ID:
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> 
> It is, the traveler is held in the sleeves with a bolt, should be able to
> use a quick release pin.
> 
> Here is a link to a higher resolution picture, with my 4 year old at the
> tiller... sadly he may think he is holding it, but the tiller clutch is
> engaged.
> 
> https://goo.gl/photos/M7pKc5RK8LcRfB2M6
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:44 PM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> This looks like a nice setup. Is it removable?
>> Ric
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I just assembled my own windward traveler (Harken) rig.  My old setup as it
>> came from previous owner was two pulleys and two ropes... nearly impossible
>> to adjust under sail.  My boat also has zero lifelines or rails to mount a
>> traveler to.
>> 
>> I mounted the Harken track on 1" OD fiberglass tubing for strength between
>> backstays.  For the backstays, since i had to replace them due to a mast
>> folding incident last fall, with assistance from a machine shop, took two
>> short 4" pieces 1.25" OD stainless tubing and had them drill 2 holes all
>> the way through the tubing.  In the holes for the back stays, i inserted
>> 1/4" OD stainless tubing and flared the ends (like you would with an
>> automotive brake line).  The 1/8 ends were flared while inserted in the
>> traveler rail sleeve, to provide a "low" friction channel for the backstays
>> to run through.  I then swaged the sleeves onto the backstay.
>> 
>> [image: IMG_20170730_150748.jpg]
>> If you look in the attached photo, behind my 6 year old daughter at the
>> tiller, you can see my windward traveler rig.  And yes, I take my 2 and 4
>> year old children out also...
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:35 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ric:
>> No, I didn't get the email. My address is gstewart8 at cogeco dot ca.
>> Graham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Ric Stott
>> Sent: July 31, 2017 7:07 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Cc: asnooch at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>> 
>> Graham I designed and made two sets of attachments for the traveler ends. I
>> have a set that I would sell as I don't feel the need for a back up set any
>> longer. I emailed a pic of the installation and the drawings for it but I
>> don't think the email ever reached you.
>> I'll try again when I get to my office later.
>> Ric
>> Sv Dadventure.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to all for their advice and suggestions. It is amazing how many
>> versions of the same thing have been developed by Rhodies. I'll let
>> you know what I do.
>> Graham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>] On
>> Behalf Of
>> asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list
>> Sent: July 29, 2017 10:41 AM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
>> traveller
>> 
>> 
>> Graham, I hope my solution helps. I've enjoyed it's use for over a
>> 
>> decade.
>> 
>> It's mounted on my stern rail with a traveler and spinlocks, not on
>> the stays, and "out of the cockpit. If interested contact me for
>> details. Burt Brody, Golden Snooch, 82 Rhodes 22.  asnooch at aol.com . See
>> 
>> attached photo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 9:14 pm
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>> 
>> I was planning to construct a version of the aft stay mounted traveller.
>> Having mocked up the bar on my boat I realized that my motor is
>> virtually unreachable. I don't have the power lift or remote controls.
>> Unless I am missing something this makes the traveller arrangement
>> appear to be unfeasible. Has anyone come up with a solution to this
>> 
>> problem?
>> 
>> I was wondering about some sort of quick disconnect that would easily
>> move the traveller bar out of the way.
>> Any suggestions are welcome.
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From koatimundi100 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 22:09:37 2017
From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:09:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4047, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <3DE9D1D8-63F6-4B70-A717-0CD26A0D1D88@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.2206.1501973821.2745.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
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That was supposed to be "can't 100% commit today"

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:06 PM, peter klappert <koatimundi100 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Annapolis & celebrating Stan.
> 
> Can 100% commit today, but I'll try to come up from Florida. There are quite a few other events about that time--like my HS class's "75th Birthday Party" in Norwalk CT. Regardless, I'll meet Chris G's bid and add  at least 10 (which would mean 60).  It will help to have a date for the R22 brouhaha. Hope the beverages can be more adventurous than ice cubes & pop!
> 
> Looking forward....
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:57 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
>> 
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>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..."
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>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>  1. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Chris Geankoplis)
>>  2. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Shawn Boles)
>>  3. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Chris Geankoplis)
>>  4. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Chris Cowie)
>>  5. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (michael meltzer)
>>  6. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Robert Louis Weiss)
>>  7. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Theodore Boender)
>>  8. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (marlangreen at gmail.com)
>>  9. Annapolis (Joe Camp)
>> 10. Sailing Spain-previously Italy (Chris Geankoplis)
>> 11. Re: Sailing Spain-previously Italy (Michael D. Weisner)
>> 12. Re: Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9 (Stan Spitzer)
>> 13. Re: motor access with aft stay mounted traveller (Curtis Ruck)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 18:00:37 -0400
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CADNTwiWxQ=LviKXgHxaijKpMC5jr2C8no2O90yRvfoNKOPkzag at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis I
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>> 
>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>> 
>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>> 
>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>> Suite 304
>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>> 
>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>> 
>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>> 
>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>> we found it when we left.
>>> 
>>> Good memories.
>>> 
>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>> 
>>> Best to all
>>> Mary Lou
>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>> 
>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>> 
>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>> 
>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>> 
>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>> 
>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>> 
>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>> slide.
>>>> 
>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>> Annapolis area
>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Marlan Green
>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>> Rhode River
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
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>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:47:31 -0700
>> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAMzGxuOBcZ1Djz72uAHf3Xn3w38bcaEfvoBmowWL2nb-GHnUiA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> I will also kick in some bucks ,
>> together with a  photo of Sweet Baboo. Suggest others might do the same in
>> honor of Stan, GB, & all of  our boats.
>> 
>> Where do I send the money and pic? Sorry to miss the fun.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Shawn
>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>> 
>> PS At 74, I told Stan that if I had six million dollars and was 20 years
>> younger I'd have a shot at continuing GB. He slyly  pointed out that I WAS
>> 20 years younger.
>> Should anything evolve, best I can do would be as a small investor in a
>> noble endeavor...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017 3:00 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>> purchasers
>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>> 
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>> 
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>> 
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>> at
>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>> 
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>> place
>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>> cooler
>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and
>>> I
>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>> management
>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>> have
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>> stay
>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>> I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>> then.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>> of
>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>> 
>>>> Good memories.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>> 
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>> gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>> evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:43:24 -0400
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CADNTwiUZstyD5SehfbRnXb4w4r_C_gmroDXDADQ3qn7-dA4R2Q at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Great Idea Shawn!  We can send a couple of our "Best" picts and comments
>> about Stan, GBC and the boat!  I like the donation idea that Michael M.
>> mentioned that would be nice, maybe we could buy something for Stan and
>> Rose with the leftover if everyone doesn't drink it up.
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis I
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> I will also kick in some bucks ,
>>> together with a  photo of Sweet Baboo. Suggest others might do the same in
>>> honor of Stan, GB, & all of  our boats.
>>> 
>>> Where do I send the money and pic? Sorry to miss the fun.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Shawn
>>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>> 
>>> PS At 74, I told Stan that if I had six million dollars and was 20 years
>>> younger I'd have a shot at continuing GB. He slyly  pointed out that I WAS
>>> 20 years younger.
>>> Should anything evolve, best I can do would be as a small investor in a
>>> noble endeavor...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017 3:00 PM, "Chris Geankoplis" <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Enosis I
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>>> that
>>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>>> purchasers
>>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>>> Suite 304
>>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>> 
>>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late
>>> 90s
>>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>>> at
>>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>>> at
>>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan
>>> (and
>>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they
>>> had
>>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>>> place
>>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>>> cooler
>>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a
>>> big
>>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>>> and
>>>> I
>>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>>> management
>>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>>> have
>>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>>> stay
>>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>>> might
>>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>>> I'm
>>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>>> then.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>>> equivalent
>>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>>> of
>>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>>> as
>>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good memories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what
>>> current
>>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best to all
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22
>>> at
>>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>> gathering?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>> evening?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help?
>>> I
>>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the
>>> risk
>>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let
>>> it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>> archives
>>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> go
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 00:38:29 +0000
>> From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID: <869722C5-4DD1-4A53-AB90-0AA98187BA29 at cowieassociates.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I will provide the tape.
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>> 
>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>> Suite 300<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>> Washington, DC 20007<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>> 202.342.2711<tel:202.342.2711> ex.204 ? 202.342.2691<tel:202.342.2691> fax ?202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>> 
>> 
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>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com<mailto:chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis I
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>> 
>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>> 
>> Christopher P. Cowie
>> 
>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>> Suite 304
>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> 
>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>> 
>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>> wrapped things up for the night.
>> 
>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>> 
>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>> we found it when we left.
>> 
>> Good memories.
>> 
>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>> 
>> Best to all
>> Mary Lou
>> ex Rhodes 22
>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com<mailto:marlangreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Rhodies,
>> 
>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>> 
>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>> 
>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>> 
>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>> 
>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>> don't think I can do it alone.
>> 
>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>> of unfriendly weather.
>> 
>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>> 
>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>> 
>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>> 
>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>> slide.
>> 
>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>> Annapolis area
>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marlan Green
>> s/v Nautisaurus
>> Holiday Hill Marina
>> Mayo, MD
>> Rhode River
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 08:06:19 -0500
>> From: michael meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Good to see you around too, nice memories. Wondering if it going to get
>> pulled off. For what it worth for the group, it after hours so does not
>> effect the show for Stan. The show is happy to cooperate, keeps the vendors
>> Happy. Stan might protest a bit but he does enjoy the attention
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!
>>> 
>>> More details coming about what we did back then.
>>> 
>>> Good to hear from you.
>>> 
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
>>>> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
>>>> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
>>>> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
>>>> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
>>>> becomes a donation if you can not show
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>>>>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love
>>>>> to
>>>>> participate if you can pull it off .
>>>>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>>> Hampton Bays
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>> 
>>>>> the
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>>>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>>>>>> 
>>>>> socialize
>>>>> 
>>>>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>>>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> from the actual show.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>>> evening?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> 
>>>>> willing
>>>>> 
>>>>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>>>>>> 
>>>>> think
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can do it alone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>>>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>>>>>> 
>>>>> location
>>>>> 
>>>>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location
>>>>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>>>>>> 
>>>>> area
>>>>> 
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>>> 
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> 
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:50:27 +0000
>> From: Robert Louis Weiss <rweiss at siu.edu>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>> 
>> I'm planning to attend Friday and Saturday and would love to attend a gathering at the show. After hours sounds like a good idea to me.
>> 
>> Bob
>> Beach Spring
>> 
>> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
>> Director of Music
>> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of michael meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 9:06:19 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> 
>> Good to see you around too, nice memories. Wondering if it going to get
>> pulled off. For what it worth for the group, it after hours so does not
>> effect the show for Stan. The show is happy to cooperate, keeps the vendors
>> Happy. Stan might protest a bit but he does enjoy the attention
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM, "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael!!!!!!!!!
>>> 
>>> More details coming about what we did back then.
>>> 
>>> Good to hear from you.
>>> 
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/3/2017 2:24 PM, michael meltzer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It might be fitting to have it at the show, basic catering pans of wraps
>>>> and salads on card trables, wheel cooler for drinks, after hours passes
>>>> from the show, break a bottle of champagne on the boat or stand head :-)
>>>> need someone local to pickup and drop off, carry out trash. Subject
>>>> everyone who might want in send a check to the organizer, at worst it
>>>> becomes a donation if you can not show
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2017 12:31 PM, "Richard Stott" <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I?m far away on Long Island and plans for attending the  Annapolis boat
>>>>> show are tentative at best, but I think its a great idea and would love
>>>>> to
>>>>> participate if you can pull it off .
>>>>> I especially love the name of your boat.
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>>> Hampton Bays
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>> 
>>>>> the
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it would be
>>>>>> possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to meet,
>>>>>> 
>>>>> socialize
>>>>> 
>>>>>> and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out with
>>>>>> Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal gatherings
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> from the actual show.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>>>>> gathering?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>>>>> evening?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> 
>>>>> willing
>>>>> 
>>>>>> to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I don't
>>>>>> 
>>>>> think
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can do it alone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a venue/restaurant
>>>>>> that could accommodate us. It might be possible to find an outdoor
>>>>>> 
>>>>> location
>>>>> 
>>>>>> like a public park but then there is the risk of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location
>>>>>> please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the Annapolis
>>>>>> 
>>>>> area
>>>>> 
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>>> 
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> 
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:54:47 -0400
>> From: Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID: <7B1FF628-F52F-41D3-BDE3-4662DA90CB6A at me.com>
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>> 
>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER 
>> 1991/2013 R22
>> Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis I
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>> 
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> Suite 304
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>> 
>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>> 
>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>> 
>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>> 
>>>> Good memories.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>> 
>>>> Best to all
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>> slide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>> Rhode River
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:46:55 -0400
>> From: "marlangreen at gmail.com" <marlangreen at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAEOL17f6hVNPNrGHppizvbzdo6vumTwhuHwd-+Dm_wKR7mRiHg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> Thanks for your feedback. I have sent an e-mail to Stan to ask him about
>> having a gathering after hours at the boat show. I'm waiting to hear back.
>> 
>> I'll be in touch once I hear from Stan.
>> 
>> Marlan
>> 
>> s/v Nautisaurus
>> 1984 Rhodes 22 Recycled 2010
>> Rhodes River
>> Holiday Hill Marina
>> Mayo, MD
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Enosis I
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is
>>> that
>>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective
>>> purchasers
>>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>>> Suite 304
>>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>> 
>>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one
>>> at
>>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one
>>> at
>>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ
>>> place
>>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled
>>> cooler
>>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner
>>> and I
>>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show
>>> management
>>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would
>>> have
>>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to
>>> stay
>>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that
>>> might
>>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show.
>>> I'm
>>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back
>>> then.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999
>>> equivalent
>>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple
>>> of
>>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all
>>> as
>>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good memories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best to all
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a
>>> gathering?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday
>>> evening?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:50:06 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis
>> Message-ID: <961362655.29158.1501894206827 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> (Which is "City of Anna"? in Greek... or maybe Latin.)???? 
>> ?
>> ???? Anyway, if there is a loop in the information flow about the boat show, I wanna be in it.? I will kiss Stan; my lovely wife (a mere sixty-three today) will also kiss Stan, as long as Stan doesn't hit me after my kiss. I think Stan wants to kiss her more than me.? I will not dance with Stan (before getting drunk). I will probably be getting drunk.
>> ???? Is there any thought given to lodging?? I want to stay in Havre de Grace.? However, that's over an hour from City Dock and has no quick and easy shuttle to downtown Annapolis (It's Greek, by the way.) so that's probably not practical. If we had a reasonably priced suite of rooms (in the Annapolis area) I could have a place to recover from "the vapors" after Stan's kiss... or the dance.? 
>> 
>> ???? I'll bet Stan's got something up his "sleeve" (that's a Middle English word "sleve" from after the year 950 & derived from Dutch "shlof") maybe not.? So, in English: Thanks.? Stan deserves better than us (better than me).
>> 
>> Joe Camp
>> s/v John Dawson
>> Bohemia River, MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:12:04 -0400
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
>> Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
>> make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was
>> supposed to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have
>> missed that boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of
>> September at the soonest.  Arrgh.
>> 
>> So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
>> options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
>> 125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
>> places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
>> 2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.
>> 
>> The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
>> passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
>> about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
>> have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
>> Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
>> leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but
>> in a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
>> around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
>> Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.
>> 
>> The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
>> France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
>> Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
>> the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
>> averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
>> We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.
>> 
>> So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
>> keep you posted.
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:28:24 -0400
>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
>> Message-ID: <000301d30da3$48326950$d8973bf0$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Is it not feasible to haul the boat on the trailer in Europe?  500+ miles in
>> a Rhodes might be pushing it. Your wife might not want to talk to you again.
>> Just thinking ...  Maybe it is worthwhile to delay a month and wait for the
>> original ship.  Will you miss your weather window?
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:12 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain-previously Italy
>> 
>> Well gang, seems that one must always be flexible.  The "Dover Highway"
>> Roll-on-Roll-off ship won't make it to Baltimore until the 9th and won't
>> make it to Barcelona to drop off the Enosis until the 19th.  It was supposed
>> to be picked up and transferred to Livorno but they will have missed that
>> boat so it would not get transferred until the 20th of September at the
>> soonest.  Arrgh.
>> 
>> So, I've decided to pick up the boat in Barcelona.  There are several
>> options one is to cruise the Spanish coast and Balarics which are between
>> 125 miles and 60 miles off shore.  There appear to be a number of nice
>> places on the Spanish coast between Barcelona and Valencia.  We would spend
>> 2 months sailing around the area and leave the boat at a marina on land.
>> 
>> The 2nd option if the weather looks good for a few days after the Balerics
>> passage (130 miles) we could make the jump to Southern Sardinia which is
>> about  a 300 mile open water crossing.  That would be the longest that I
>> have taken in the Rhodes.  From there it is another 200 to Sicily.  Once at
>> Sicily we would sail along the south coast to Ragusa Marina where we would
>> leave the boat for the winter.  I've sailed most of this route before but in
>> a much larger boat and it was challenging.  Actual sailing days would be
>> around 16 days.  However we would take our time and explore Majorca and
>> Sardinia and Sicily so the total time would be around 6 or 7 weeks.
>> 
>> The last option would involve sailing north along the Spanish coast to
>> France then along the French coast and then along the Italian coast to
>> Naples.  Marinas are very expensive and not a lot of places to anchor but
>> the coast is very beautiful.  Total sailing days would be around a month,
>> averaging around 30 miles a day.  I've sailed the Italian portion before.
>> We would leave the boat in the island of Ischia in the bay of Naples.
>> 
>> So if anyone has any other ideas or suggestions please let me know.  I'll
>> keep you posted.
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Enosis
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:28:20 -0400
>> From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>> Message-ID: <14170a48-b67a-990c-3934-5ef79ec80970 at rhodes22.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> 
>> Will you guys and dolls cut it out already.  Unless you just want to 
>> party, in which case don't hang it on me.  I was a Sinatra fan and this 
>> is just the first of my retiring performances.  I am playing it safe; 
>> the final curtain call won't happen til Chris Geankoplis can make it in 
>> person.
>> 
>> All I said was I needed partnering.  There were several solid responses 
>> but divorces stood in the way.  One mistaken Rhodes owner called for a 
>> part and I asked if he wanted a job instead.  Before we hung up, his 
>> girl friend, their 3 kids and mother had squeezed into our tiny 2 BR 
>> waterfront cottage and we finished our first inboard e-propulsion Rhodes 
>> now leaving Tuesday for Baltimore.  Word got out and a couple in OR 
>> ordered the second e-propulsion Rhodes for delivery ASAP.  Still have to 
>> figure out how to get up to the usual 4 more Rhodes we take to the show. 
>>  Still desperately need partnering.  Still no time for partying.  
>> Going to the show for one thing:  To sell boats.
>> 
>> I do remember the after hours catered affair at our boat at the show. We 
>> gave away a prize.  It turned out the winner was a stranger.  He did not 
>> own or never owned a Rhodes.  He did thank us for the prize.  I even 
>> recall the first line of my speech. "Never before have so many, who are 
>> mad at me, gathered together in one place at one time."   Besides, 
>> emotionally, without Elton there, I would not be able to handle it.
>> 
>> Maybe next year or the one or two thereafter.
>> 
>> Sorry about this but I have still to think of all those poor folks all 
>> over this world, who have not yet lived the joys of sailing a Rhodes, 
>> like this couple in Australia are having sailing Australian waters.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/4/17 12:54 PM, Theodore Boender wrote:
>>> I plan on going to the show. I'd be willing to help in any way I can.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> S/V AIRPOWER
>>> 1991/2013 R22
>>> Jacksonville, FL
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can't make it to the show but will be happy to kick in $50 to the beer
>>>> kitty and send along a cardboard cut of me that you can tape up (grin)
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Enosis I
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Manny of the boat vendors the past few years seem to have after show
>>>>> parties and they seem to work well.  My perception over the years is that
>>>>> Stan would prefer to prioritize his time talking to prospective purchasers
>>>>> during the show and to socialize after show hours.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>>> Suite 304
>>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314
>>>>> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:58 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show - Oct 5- 9
>>>>> 
>>>>> A little bit of ancient history here that might or might not help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There were several Rhodie gatherings at or near the show in the late 90s
>>>>> early 00s. We did meet in restaurants a couple of times (I remember one at
>>>>> Carroll Creek and one at Buddy's and I think even a small informal one at
>>>>> Cantlers but Stan didn't come to that one.) The problem with the
>>>>> restaurants during the show is that they are super crowded and Stan (and
>>>>> Elton back then) couldn't get off until the show had closed and they had
>>>>> wrapped things up for the night.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The most successful one(s) we had were one or two that we had catered
>>>>> right at the boat after the show closed. They were catered by the BBQ place
>>>>> Red Hot & Blue (still in business) and several of us brought munchies,
>>>>> bottles of sodas, ice (and maybe ice tea ) for drinks - the wheeled cooler
>>>>> idea. I think the caterer supplied the tables and I don't remember who
>>>>> supplied paper goods and utensils. I remember that it seemed  like a big
>>>>> undertaking but one of our members, Jan Eyres, was a meeting planner and I
>>>>> distinctly remember her saying "oh this will be easy."  If I recall
>>>>> correctly, she made the arrangements with the caterer. Jan or Michael
>>>>> Meltzer (who just chimed in) made the arrangements with the show management
>>>>> to let the caterer in and maybe had the list of attendees. This would have
>>>>> to be done by someone acting on behalf of the vendor - General Boats. I
>>>>> believe we collected names so we had a list of everyone authorized to stay
>>>>> after the show closing. I collected the names of attendees and made
>>>>> nametags I found a nametag list with 20 names on it from 1998 (that might
>>>>> have been for a restaurant gathering) and one with 42 on it from 1999 -
>>>>> that was a big catered gathering at the Rhodes 22 display at the show. I'm
>>>>> still looking for photos but I may not have had many digital from back then.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not sure what our rain plans were but we may have had the 1999 equivalent
>>>>> of a couple of EZ-ups in reserve. I remember that we took over a couple of
>>>>> the vacated booths of other vendors and were very careful to leave all as
>>>>> we found it when we left.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good memories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that show management has changed and I have no idea of what current
>>>>> rules on such gatherings might be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best to all
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> ex Rhodes 22
>>>>> now Rosborough FR-246 Tara
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/3/2017 11:07 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Rhodies,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since this is the last year that Stan will be showing the Rhodes 22 at
>>>>>> the Annapolis Show (that's still the case, right?), I wonder if it
>>>>>> would be possible to organize a gathering for all of us and Stan to
>>>>>> meet, socialize and just do what sailors do - tell stories.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that in the past Rhodies have met one another by hanging out
>>>>>> with Stan and the boats and that there have also been informal
>>>>>> gatherings away from the actual show.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This year could we choose a time and location in advance for a gathering?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be possible to arrange something for Friday or Saturday evening?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I live in the DC metro area and my boat is south of Annapolis. I'm
>>>>>> willing to help organize this. Would anyone else be willing to help? I
>>>>>> don't think I can do it alone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that the biggest challenge will be finding a
>>>>>> venue/restaurant that could accommodate us. It might be possible to
>>>>>> find an outdoor location like a public park but then there is the risk
>>>>> of unfriendly weather.
>>>>>> Do you think this is a good idea?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you think it is something you would attend?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you willing to help me pull it together?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. If no one wants to do this I'll let it
>>>>>> slide.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is a Rhodie near Annapolis who might know of a venue or
>>>>>> location please contact me. Better still -- is there a Rhodie in the
>>>>> Annapolis area
>>>>>> who could host at their home?   :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marlan Green
>>>>>> s/v Nautisaurus
>>>>>> Holiday Hill Marina
>>>>>> Mayo, MD
>>>>>> Rhode River
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:56:48 +0000
>> From: Curtis Ruck <ruckc at yahoo.com>
>> To: Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>, Curtis Ruck
>>   <ruckc at yahoo.com>,  The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
>>   traveller
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAFgGLFeEOMJSD6QDqnNk-K1GNqnb9H-dk5F5P_Xt8p3hU_g1DA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> It is, the traveler is held in the sleeves with a bolt, should be able to
>> use a quick release pin.
>> 
>> Here is a link to a higher resolution picture, with my 4 year old at the
>> tiller... sadly he may think he is holding it, but the tiller clutch is
>> engaged.
>> 
>> https://goo.gl/photos/M7pKc5RK8LcRfB2M6
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:44 PM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This looks like a nice setup. Is it removable?
>>> Ric
>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just assembled my own windward traveler (Harken) rig.  My old setup as it
>>> came from previous owner was two pulleys and two ropes... nearly impossible
>>> to adjust under sail.  My boat also has zero lifelines or rails to mount a
>>> traveler to.
>>> 
>>> I mounted the Harken track on 1" OD fiberglass tubing for strength between
>>> backstays.  For the backstays, since i had to replace them due to a mast
>>> folding incident last fall, with assistance from a machine shop, took two
>>> short 4" pieces 1.25" OD stainless tubing and had them drill 2 holes all
>>> the way through the tubing.  In the holes for the back stays, i inserted
>>> 1/4" OD stainless tubing and flared the ends (like you would with an
>>> automotive brake line).  The 1/8 ends were flared while inserted in the
>>> traveler rail sleeve, to provide a "low" friction channel for the backstays
>>> to run through.  I then swaged the sleeves onto the backstay.
>>> 
>>> [image: IMG_20170730_150748.jpg]
>>> If you look in the attached photo, behind my 6 year old daughter at the
>>> tiller, you can see my windward traveler rig.  And yes, I take my 2 and 4
>>> year old children out also...
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:35 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ric:
>>> No, I didn't get the email. My address is gstewart8 at cogeco dot ca.
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Ric Stott
>>> Sent: July 31, 2017 7:07 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Cc: asnooch at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>>> 
>>> Graham I designed and made two sets of attachments for the traveler ends. I
>>> have a set that I would sell as I don't feel the need for a back up set any
>>> longer. I emailed a pic of the installation and the drawings for it but I
>>> don't think the email ever reached you.
>>> I'll try again when I get to my office later.
>>> Ric
>>> Sv Dadventure.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all for their advice and suggestions. It is amazing how many
>>> versions of the same thing have been developed by Rhodies. I'll let
>>> you know what I do.
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list
>>> Sent: July 29, 2017 10:41 AM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted
>>> traveller
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graham, I hope my solution helps. I've enjoyed it's use for over a
>>> 
>>> decade.
>>> 
>>> It's mounted on my stern rail with a traveler and spinlocks, not on
>>> the stays, and "out of the cockpit. If interested contact me for
>>> details. Burt Brody, Golden Snooch, 82 Rhodes 22.  asnooch at aol.com . See
>>> 
>>> attached photo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 9:14 pm
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] motor access with aft stay mounted traveller
>>> 
>>> I was planning to construct a version of the aft stay mounted traveller.
>>> Having mocked up the bar on my boat I realized that my motor is
>>> virtually unreachable. I don't have the power lift or remote controls.
>>> Unless I am missing something this makes the traveller arrangement
>>> appear to be unfeasible. Has anyone come up with a solution to this
>>> 
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> I was wondering about some sort of quick disconnect that would easily
>>> move the traveller bar out of the way.
>>> Any suggestions are welcome.
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  7 23:22:17 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 20:22:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anybody playing on Lake Erie in September?
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36aKuK0oHqqt5G2qLsREPvDyEGVq9x7JLG9GLDSmPA4dbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1502127406130-53586.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36aKuK0oHqqt5G2qLsREPvDyEGVq9x7JLG9GLDSmPA4dbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1502162537707-53594.post@n5.nabble.com>

Probably not this time unless there is a weather reason to drive through
Cleveland or the green snot is impossible by the islands.   Where does one
launch downtown?   Shudder.   But hopping along the coast in the future
Cleveland has a lot to offer a couple trapped by weather,  and two stops
East is Brennan's fishhouse!  

Alex 



-----
Alex Cole
S/V Lark
--
View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Anybody-playing-on-Lake-Erie-in-September-tp53586p53594.html
Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 08:08:33 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:08:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain #2
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWcAGBnOUgJwEYQKGTt_BwTFxZ_tJdFZTggUEJP0yNieg@mail.gmail.com>

Click the link to get an update on "How to (or not to) Ship your Boat
Overseas"

From hnw555 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 08:18:26 2017
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:18:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain #2
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWcAGBnOUgJwEYQKGTt_BwTFxZ_tJdFZTggUEJP0yNieg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWcAGBnOUgJwEYQKGTt_BwTFxZ_tJdFZTggUEJP0yNieg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADQNfMCVh5Pe66ZZQdFG4GJeoiqLzVJKwPirAADMDK--5cqXrA@mail.gmail.com>

No link...

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Click the link to get an update on "How to (or not to) Ship your Boat
> Overseas"
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>

From lsr3 at nyu.edu  Tue Aug  8 09:19:55 2017
From: lsr3 at nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 06:19:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1981 R22 for sale /sv Miracles in Mill Basin
	Brooklyn
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVFSwohBEEm8UYMC7iwCpoBv17hcqD7ZH-N=nT3gCpRCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502144394153-53589.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CADNTwiVFSwohBEEm8UYMC7iwCpoBv17hcqD7ZH-N=nT3gCpRCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1502198395164-53597.post@n5.nabble.com>

Chris,
thanks for the input on mast height.  A few yrs back I measured carefully
from my waterline mark to the deck top, then measured the standard mast a
few times, although I think i added my antenna height into the calculation. 
When I go under the Mill Basin bridge it says 41 ft, (MLW) and I clear it by
what seems like only about 4-5 feet.

I wish I had a trailer now, but I cannot afford one and the storage alone
would be prohibitive if she doesnt sell by winter.

Safe sails in Europe, hope you have a wonderful time!
Lou
sv Miracles



--
View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/1981-R22-for-sale-sv-Miracles-in-Mill-Basin-Brooklyn-tp53588p53597.html
Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 13:06:04 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:06:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain #2
In-Reply-To: <CADQNfMCVh5Pe66ZZQdFG4GJeoiqLzVJKwPirAADMDK--5cqXrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWcAGBnOUgJwEYQKGTt_BwTFxZ_tJdFZTggUEJP0yNieg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADQNfMCVh5Pe66ZZQdFG4GJeoiqLzVJKwPirAADMDK--5cqXrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXmdQ6AwWj4wNBTUSwMdR4wuyoEOZPnx_LLWjHccKaqww@mail.gmail.com>

Oh the famous missing Link!   Let me try again.  Doh!  it is an
Attachment!  I'll make it a link also.  Sorry 'bout dat.  It might have
been that the attachment got scrubbed.  Let's see if this works.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNNW9SV08wNUNIb1E


Chris G

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No link...
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Click the link to get an update on "How to (or not to) Ship your Boat
> > Overseas"
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 13:16:24 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:16:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain #2
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXmdQ6AwWj4wNBTUSwMdR4wuyoEOZPnx_LLWjHccKaqww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWcAGBnOUgJwEYQKGTt_BwTFxZ_tJdFZTggUEJP0yNieg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADQNfMCVh5Pe66ZZQdFG4GJeoiqLzVJKwPirAADMDK--5cqXrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiXmdQ6AwWj4wNBTUSwMdR4wuyoEOZPnx_LLWjHccKaqww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiX4y_V3K=hqxKuEsQiXROZaqmhJkbPO5e3pPDLYmA2Uig@mail.gmail.com>

I see that the "X " marks did not remain stationary in transferring to my
Google Docs.  I'll try again Arrgh

You may have to hit the "enable Edit" button.  So I'll try this attachment.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Oh the famous missing Link!   Let me try again.  Doh!  it is an
> Attachment!  I'll make it a link also.  Sorry 'bout dat.  It might have
> been that the attachment got scrubbed.  Let's see if this works.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNNW9SV08wNUNIb1E
>
>
> Chris G
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No link...
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Click the link to get an update on "How to (or not to) Ship your Boat
>> > Overseas"
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>> > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> >
>> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go
>> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> > __________________________________________________
>> >
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma
>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 13:37:34 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:37:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1981 R22 for sale /sv Miracles in Mill Basin
	Brooklyn
In-Reply-To: <1502198395164-53597.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502144394153-53589.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CADNTwiVFSwohBEEm8UYMC7iwCpoBv17hcqD7ZH-N=nT3gCpRCA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1502198395164-53597.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWd0qX9mw-7=fnMGNsGW7nTBdyroqeF6_V6dO=qtPB8Jw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Lou!
                  Getting a trailer is quite a challenge, but borrowing one
might be an option.  I know there lots of Rhodies in the NE and we all know
how generous they are.  So if having the ability to move the boat by the
new owner is a deal maker you might be able to line something up.  Looking
forward to the Med experience.

Chris G





On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu> wrote:

> Chris,
> thanks for the input on mast height.  A few yrs back I measured carefully
> from my waterline mark to the deck top, then measured the standard mast a
> few times, although I think i added my antenna height into the calculation.
> When I go under the Mill Basin bridge it says 41 ft, (MLW) and I clear it
> by
> what seems like only about 4-5 feet.
>
> I wish I had a trailer now, but I cannot afford one and the storage alone
> would be prohibitive if she doesnt sell by winter.
>
> Safe sails in Europe, hope you have a wonderful time!
> Lou
> sv Miracles
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.
> nabble.com/1981-R22-for-sale-sv-Miracles-in-Mill-Basin-
> Brooklyn-tp53588p53597.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 14:45:13 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 14:45:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1981 R22 for sale /sv Miracles in Mill Basin
	Brooklyn
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWd0qX9mw-7=fnMGNsGW7nTBdyroqeF6_V6dO=qtPB8Jw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1502143763462-53588.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502144394153-53589.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CADNTwiVFSwohBEEm8UYMC7iwCpoBv17hcqD7ZH-N=nT3gCpRCA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1502198395164-53597.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CADNTwiWd0qX9mw-7=fnMGNsGW7nTBdyroqeF6_V6dO=qtPB8Jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9byirTt89=MzNULvJFPoZ6RSytsFyuZ-=L-t0-TDckk5g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Lou

Your boat certainly looks very sharp and judging from the list of extras
the new owner is going to get a bargain.

I thought I would remind you that I do quite a lot of deliveries for Stan
and Rhodies on my own trailer and can haul the boat, de-rig and launch at
the other end as part of my hauling fee.

Typically I charge $1.80 per loaded mile if using your trailer and $2.00
per loaded mile if using my trailer. I do have a minimum of $500 per tow if
the distance is less than 250 miles.

Personal email is rbeytagh at gmail.com or call me.

Cheers



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Lou!
>                   Getting a trailer is quite a challenge, but borrowing one
> might be an option.  I know there lots of Rhodies in the NE and we all know
> how generous they are.  So if having the ability to move the boat by the
> new owner is a deal maker you might be able to line something up.  Looking
> forward to the Med experience.
>
> Chris G
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Chris,
> > thanks for the input on mast height.  A few yrs back I measured carefully
> > from my waterline mark to the deck top, then measured the standard mast a
> > few times, although I think i added my antenna height into the
> calculation.
> > When I go under the Mill Basin bridge it says 41 ft, (MLW) and I clear it
> > by
> > what seems like only about 4-5 feet.
> >
> > I wish I had a trailer now, but I cannot afford one and the storage alone
> > would be prohibitive if she doesnt sell by winter.
> >
> > Safe sails in Europe, hope you have a wonderful time!
> > Lou
> > sv Miracles
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.
> > nabble.com/1981-R22-for-sale-sv-Miracles-in-Mill-Basin-
> > Brooklyn-tp53588p53597.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From gary_lockhart33 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 14:45:13 2017
From: gary_lockhart33 at yahoo.com (Gary Lockhart)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 18:45:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer
References: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891@mail.yahoo.com>

So who has a trailer set-up with bunks for the Rhodes for sale in the upper east coast? Miracles looks like an excellent deal.Gary (former Rhodes owner, jonesin' for another)? 

From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 17:23:36 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:23:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer
In-Reply-To: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9bD1TdE0s5LV3Ns2vH4Y6-H55zoVpwbEguA9UFDs6i7Ew@mail.gmail.com>

My trailer is not for sale but I do have a dual axle trailer that is
available to deliver R22s. I do quite a lot of deliveries for Stan and
Rhodies on my own trailer and can haul the boat, de-rig and launch at the
other end as part of my hauling fee.

Typically I charge $1.80 per loaded mile if using your trailer and $2.00
per loaded mile if using my trailer. I do have a minimum of $500 per tow if
the distance is less than 250 miles.

Personal email is rbeytagh at gmail.com or call me.

R22 S/V Waif



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Gary Lockhart via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> So who has a trailer set-up with bunks for the Rhodes for sale in the
> upper east coast? Miracles looks like an excellent deal.Gary (former Rhodes
> owner, jonesin' for another)
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
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From chrismalley at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 12:40:06 2017
From: chrismalley at gmail.com (Chris Malley)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:40:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer
In-Reply-To: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEaWqdnO2O2xMspmbOuWuJPDexc3fSoH9wNxa540H24bkF0LtA@mail.gmail.com>

https://ottumwa.craigslist.org/tro/6231093679.html  This is the
closest trailer on craigslist.

Chris Malley


On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Gary Lockhart via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> So who has a trailer set-up with bunks for the Rhodes for sale in the
> upper east coast? Miracles looks like an excellent deal.Gary (former Rhodes
> owner, jonesin' for another)
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 14:40:22 2017
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 14:40:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anybody playing on Lake Erie in September?
In-Reply-To: <1502162537707-53594.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502127406130-53586.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36aKuK0oHqqt5G2qLsREPvDyEGVq9x7JLG9GLDSmPA4dbA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1502162537707-53594.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36YA+xh_WCojQF0NA9PNGFi8NvmzPoVdz4QyWdWJvZvWpw@mail.gmail.com>

Alex,

There are excellent, free public ramps on each side of Cleveland at the
ends of the breakwall--on the westside at Edgewater Marina and on the
eastside at Gordon Park.  You can also launch near Brennan's at the private
Grand River Marina.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:22 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Probably not this time unless there is a weather reason to drive through
> Cleveland or the green snot is impossible by the islands.   Where does one
> launch downtown?   Shudder.   But hopping along the coast in the future
> Cleveland has a lot to offer a couple trapped by weather,  and two stops
> East is Brennan's fishhouse!
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.
> nabble.com/Anybody-playing-on-Lake-Erie-in-September-tp53586p53594.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 06:08:05 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 06:08:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-2&3-2016
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUx2DoNBf=Y0UbHuWic2_NkQ5ffDAkZ9BaA_Aasz9kLKw@mail.gmail.com>

This is a resend, it doesn't seem to appear in my in box so I may have
failed to do something properly.

January 2nd 2016

 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNRjRyNE53RnNkZ1U



January 3rd 2016

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNVnFkWlB0OE9YbGM

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 06:11:11 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 06:11:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-4-2016
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVWgRS8XGcDDkaj0eVLBAUK-1bhsg7fT=FpF4Z+RD+b+w@mail.gmail.com>

Here is another short day at Escondido.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNN0JxMGVseHRRVms

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 06:17:59 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 06:17:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>

On my way Spain in a couple of hours.  Well, the boat is at least in
Baltimore awaiting a berth later on today.  As long as they don't forget
Enosis it should be a good day.  They will discharge the Ford Focus' they
picked up in Vera Cruz and then load a few things (Enosis included) and
head either up the coast to New England or head over to Barcelona, don't
really know.  Things should be pretty quiet at this end for a couple of
weeks at which time maybe the boat is out of customs and I can begin
setting things up.  Let you guys know.

Chris Geankoplis
S/V Enosis
Baltimore

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu Aug 10 20:00:33 2017
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:00:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82456E16-3326-482F-89F2-65242B93067E@sunnybeeches.com>

I went down to Groton today to do a boat project and go for a short afternoon sail.  Winds were light and I was just puttering along in Fisher?s Island Sound when there was a loud snap and the next thing I knew my 175 genoa was floating in the water along side my boat.  The bottom was still attached at the bow, but the top was no longer attached to the top of the mast.

This is a CDI furler, and an IMF mast.

I managed to get the motor lowered and started, the main furled, and then the genoa stashed along the port gunwale.  The very top of the roller reefing assembly was still dragging in the water behind the boat, but I was pretty sure that it would remain clear of the outboard prop.

With all that done, I was able to motor calmly back to the marina and pick up my mooring.  Before leaving the boat, I lashed the genoa more securely, disconnected it at the bow, and shifted the whole package forward a bit so that both ends were out of the water.  What I didn?t think to do, for some reason, was to inspect the top of the furler assembly or the top of the mast (using binoculars) to get a better sense of what had failed and what might be required to put things right.

I have disconnected the furler assembly from the mast several times in the past, but now can?t really recall what the connection looked like.  In looking at some things I found online, it would seem that I should expect to see some bits of rigging hardware (part of the actual forestay) extending above the plastic top cap of the CDI assembly.  I?m pretty sure that at the moment there is nothing that extends beyond the top cap, which if true would suggest that the forestay itself has failed.  

Of course the good news in all of this is that the mast has remained more or less vertical through the entire process.

I won?t be able to pull the boat out of the water, drop the mast, and inspect things more closely until Monday.  In the mean time, I?m left to wonder what hoops I?ll need to jump through to get my boat ready to sail again.  Any insights or advice from the list would be greatly appreciated.  And, as always, a picture is worth 1000 words.

Thanks,

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

From daysails at aol.com  Thu Aug 10 23:55:46 2017
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 23:55:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15dcf6f04c0-2bf-1069a@webprd-m12.mail.aol.com>

Safe journey Chris!  Joe Riley /Second Wind/ Lake Hartwell SC



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 6:18 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain

On my way Spain in a couple of hours.  Well, the boat is at least in
Baltimore awaiting a berth later on today.  As long as they don't forget
Enosis it should be a good day.  They will discharge the Ford Focus' they
picked up in Vera Cruz and then load a few things (Enosis included) and
head either up the coast to New England or head over to Barcelona, don't
really know.  Things should be pretty quiet at this end for a couple of
weeks at which time maybe the boat is out of customs and I can begin
setting things up.  Let you guys know.

Chris Geankoplis
S/V Enosis
Baltimore
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 05:44:46 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 05:44:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
In-Reply-To: <15dcf6f04c0-2bf-1069a@webprd-m12.mail.aol.com>
References: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
 <15dcf6f04c0-2bf-1069a@webprd-m12.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXEG0abkveQVg-2ib8=1Gx77EtBY6hDKm3ptEeT6AcC3w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for all the well wishes!

Chris g

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Sling via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Safe journey Chris!  Joe Riley /Second Wind/ Lake Hartwell SC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 6:18 pm
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
>
> On my way Spain in a couple of hours.  Well, the boat is at least in
> Baltimore awaiting a berth later on today.  As long as they don't forget
> Enosis it should be a good day.  They will discharge the Ford Focus' they
> picked up in Vera Cruz and then load a few things (Enosis included) and
> head either up the coast to New England or head over to Barcelona, don't
> really know.  Things should be pretty quiet at this end for a couple of
> weeks at which time maybe the boat is out of customs and I can begin
> setting things up.  Let you guys know.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> S/V Enosis
> Baltimore
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat Aug 12 21:50:14 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:50:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
In-Reply-To: <1269238C-923F-4FA2-8462-FF309EDFDC2F@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <15d8ecaf614-2e35-30997@webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>
 <008701d30983$99056630$cb103290$@ca>
 <1269238C-923F-4FA2-8462-FF309EDFDC2F@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <010c01d313d6$81e0f890$85a2e9b0$@ca>

After so many shared with me their traveller adaptations I thought I should
post what I finally ended up with - particularly because I stole ideas from
just about everyone.

I decided to go with the traveller attached to the stern pulpit. There were
a number of reasons for this including the fact that by placing it there
access to the motor was less impeded.

I had my old traveller track that I wanted to use and so I attached it to a
5' piece of stainless steel tubing by drilling and tapping holes for the 14
bolts. To get the angle right for the mainsheet I wanted the bar to be able
to rotate. I ended up using several pieces of off the shelf rail brackets
that are shown in the close up photo of the traveller end. I used a hinged
rail clamp that comes with a spring-loaded fast pin that holds the pulpit
anchor which in turn holds the traveller bar. I adjusted the angle by
rotating the bar and then clamped it in place with the pulpit anchor bolts.
The fast pins allow me to remove the traveller very quickly and easily.

I have on order a traveller car that fits my track and includes two cam
cleats on it. That way I have no need for blocks and cam cleats at the ends
of the traveller.  After years of restoration work I have actually sailed
the boat yesterday and today in 15 knot winds and it appears that the
traveller works quite well for me. It is an amazing sensation to actually be
on the water again!

Speaking of motor access, I made a shifter extension for the motor which is
shown in the picture of the full traveller. It consists of grey plastic
conduit (1" inside diameter) with a hinge that I made from 1" dowel. The
short end slips over the shift lever on the motor. Because it is not
attached otherwise it can be removed instantly just by lifting it up and it
is also able to  rotate in place so it does not get in the way when I use
the motor to steer tight turns. It is kind of crude but works. I think I
will redo the hinge to make it a bit beefier and also include a knob at the
join that will allow me to change the tension.

Thanks to everyone who have helped me with these issues.

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada


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From cjlowe at sssnet.com  Sun Aug 13 01:03:20 2017
From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 01:03:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
In-Reply-To: <010c01d313d6$81e0f890$85a2e9b0$@ca>
References: <15d8ecaf614-2e35-30997@webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>
 <008701d30983$99056630$cb103290$@ca>
 <1269238C-923F-4FA2-8462-FF309EDFDC2F@stottarchitecture.com>
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Message-ID: <56017.24.140.30.102.1502600600.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>

Well done, Graham. I know it's been a long hard uphill climb,glad to here
your heading down the back side. Now just sail that new boat you've got.
Jerry Lowe

 Lohttp://quickpop.sssnet.com/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php?mailbox=INBOX&passed_id=66918&startMessage=1ewe


> After so many shared with me their traveller adaptations I thought I
> should
> post what I finally ended up with - particularly because I stole ideas
> from
> just about everyone.
>
> I decided to go with the traveller attached to the stern pulpit. There
> were
> a number of reasons for this including the fact that by placing it there
> access to the motor was less impeded.
>
> I had my old traveller track that I wanted to use and so I attached it to
> a
> 5' piece of stainless steel tubing by drilling and tapping holes for the
> 14
> bolts. To get the angle right for the mainsheet I wanted the bar to be
> able
> to rotate. I ended up using several pieces of off the shelf rail brackets
> that are shown in the close up photo of the traveller end. I used a hinged
> rail clamp that comes with a spring-loaded fast pin that holds the pulpit
> anchor which in turn holds the traveller bar. I adjusted the angle by
> rotating the bar and then clamped it in place with the pulpit anchor
> bolts.
> The fast pins allow me to remove the traveller very quickly and easily.
>
> I have on order a traveller car that fits my track and includes two cam
> cleats on it. That way I have no need for blocks and cam cleats at the
> ends
> of the traveller.  After years of restoration work I have actually sailed
> the boat yesterday and today in 15 knot winds and it appears that the
> traveller works quite well for me. It is an amazing sensation to actually
> be
> on the water again!
>
> Speaking of motor access, I made a shifter extension for the motor which
> is
> shown in the picture of the full traveller. It consists of grey plastic
> conduit (1" inside diameter) with a hinge that I made from 1" dowel. The
> short end slips over the shift lever on the motor. Because it is not
> attached otherwise it can be removed instantly just by lifting it up and
> it
> is also able to  rotate in place so it does not get in the way when I use
> the motor to steer tight turns. It is kind of crude but works. I think I
> will redo the hinge to make it a bit beefier and also include a knob at
> the
> join that will allow me to change the tension.
>
> Thanks to everyone who have helped me with these issues.
>
> Graham
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 04:28:12 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 04:28:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
In-Reply-To: <010c01d313d6$81e0f890$85a2e9b0$@ca>
References: <15d8ecaf614-2e35-30997@webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>
 <008701d30983$99056630$cb103290$@ca>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiWBiA7_nWDSk8EZiSz5tHNbGhXRXJwgEhoH9rP=78RX0A@mail.gmail.com>

Truly congratulations.  You have a beautiful boat.

Chris Geankoplis

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> After so many shared with me their traveller adaptations I thought I should
> post what I finally ended up with - particularly because I stole ideas from
> just about everyone.
>
> I decided to go with the traveller attached to the stern pulpit. There were
> a number of reasons for this including the fact that by placing it there
> access to the motor was less impeded.
>
> I had my old traveller track that I wanted to use and so I attached it to a
> 5' piece of stainless steel tubing by drilling and tapping holes for the 14
> bolts. To get the angle right for the mainsheet I wanted the bar to be able
> to rotate. I ended up using several pieces of off the shelf rail brackets
> that are shown in the close up photo of the traveller end. I used a hinged
> rail clamp that comes with a spring-loaded fast pin that holds the pulpit
> anchor which in turn holds the traveller bar. I adjusted the angle by
> rotating the bar and then clamped it in place with the pulpit anchor bolts.
> The fast pins allow me to remove the traveller very quickly and easily.
>
> I have on order a traveller car that fits my track and includes two cam
> cleats on it. That way I have no need for blocks and cam cleats at the ends
> of the traveller.  After years of restoration work I have actually sailed
> the boat yesterday and today in 15 knot winds and it appears that the
> traveller works quite well for me. It is an amazing sensation to actually
> be
> on the water again!
>
> Speaking of motor access, I made a shifter extension for the motor which is
> shown in the picture of the full traveller. It consists of grey plastic
> conduit (1" inside diameter) with a hinge that I made from 1" dowel. The
> short end slips over the shift lever on the motor. Because it is not
> attached otherwise it can be removed instantly just by lifting it up and it
> is also able to  rotate in place so it does not get in the way when I use
> the motor to steer tight turns. It is kind of crude but works. I think I
> will redo the hinge to make it a bit beefier and also include a knob at the
> join that will allow me to change the tension.
>
> Thanks to everyone who have helped me with these issues.
>
> Graham
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
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From hnw555 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 11:07:21 2017
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 11:07:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
In-Reply-To: <010c01d313d6$81e0f890$85a2e9b0$@ca>
References: <15d8ecaf614-2e35-30997@webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>
 <008701d30983$99056630$cb103290$@ca>
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 <010c01d313d6$81e0f890$85a2e9b0$@ca>
Message-ID: <CADQNfMBxtsGNBu8t-xTOU_6g+x+uNb0+9nHurEVM97m7nAvxaw@mail.gmail.com>

I would be concerned that the load from the mainsail could be more than the
pulpit can handle.  You should make sure that your pulpit is installed with
good backing plates and not just screwed into the fiberglass or you may
lose the pulpit some day.

Hank

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> After so many shared with me their traveller adaptations I thought I should
> post what I finally ended up with - particularly because I stole ideas from
> just about everyone.
>
> I decided to go with the traveller attached to the stern pulpit. There were
> a number of reasons for this including the fact that by placing it there
> access to the motor was less impeded.
>
> I had my old traveller track that I wanted to use and so I attached it to a
> 5' piece of stainless steel tubing by drilling and tapping holes for the 14
> bolts. To get the angle right for the mainsheet I wanted the bar to be able
> to rotate. I ended up using several pieces of off the shelf rail brackets
> that are shown in the close up photo of the traveller end. I used a hinged
> rail clamp that comes with a spring-loaded fast pin that holds the pulpit
> anchor which in turn holds the traveller bar. I adjusted the angle by
> rotating the bar and then clamped it in place with the pulpit anchor bolts.
> The fast pins allow me to remove the traveller very quickly and easily.
>
> I have on order a traveller car that fits my track and includes two cam
> cleats on it. That way I have no need for blocks and cam cleats at the ends
> of the traveller.  After years of restoration work I have actually sailed
> the boat yesterday and today in 15 knot winds and it appears that the
> traveller works quite well for me. It is an amazing sensation to actually
> be
> on the water again!
>
> Speaking of motor access, I made a shifter extension for the motor which is
> shown in the picture of the full traveller. It consists of grey plastic
> conduit (1" inside diameter) with a hinge that I made from 1" dowel. The
> short end slips over the shift lever on the motor. Because it is not
> attached otherwise it can be removed instantly just by lifting it up and it
> is also able to  rotate in place so it does not get in the way when I use
> the motor to steer tight turns. It is kind of crude but works. I think I
> will redo the hinge to make it a bit beefier and also include a knob at the
> join that will allow me to change the tension.
>
> Thanks to everyone who have helped me with these issues.
>
> Graham
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 12:10:33 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:10:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
Message-ID: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>

Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.

Jay Friedland
s/v Wanderlust ?97

From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 17:12:00 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:12:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
In-Reply-To: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>
References: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B2CDA4DA-A334-4575-A741-2DC984CFFE10@gmail.com>

That is- I?ve measured the length of pendants on other R22?s (w/ diamond board) and gotten lengths from 26? up to mine at 38?. Does 38? allow board to be fully extended to 4?6? (?) draft?

Jay Friedlandf

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
> 
> Jay Friedland
> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Aug 13 20:26:25 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:26:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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References: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d31493$f6cfd500$e46f7f00$@ca>

Jay:
The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass through three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to the cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is free. I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same for the diamond board.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length

Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.

Jay Friedland
s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Aug 13 20:32:41 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:32:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
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Hank:
I appreciate your caution. The stern rail is bolted on to the boat although
I intend to beef that up next spring as the bolts are short and the backing
washers are only small washers. I will also need to keep an eye on the set
screws that hold the rail together. In the final analysis I have no idea
whether the rail is sufficiently strong for the traveller. I am relying on
others who have used this sort of arrangement for a number of years
apparently without problems. I will keep my fingers crossed and inspect
regularly.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Hank
Sent: August 13, 2017 11:07 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.

I would be concerned that the load from the mainsail could be more than the
pulpit can handle.  You should make sure that your pulpit is installed with
good backing plates and not just screwed into the fiberglass or you may lose
the pulpit some day.

Hank

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> After so many shared with me their traveller adaptations I thought I 
> should post what I finally ended up with - particularly because I 
> stole ideas from just about everyone.
>
> I decided to go with the traveller attached to the stern pulpit. There 
> were a number of reasons for this including the fact that by placing 
> it there access to the motor was less impeded.
>
> I had my old traveller track that I wanted to use and so I attached it 
> to a 5' piece of stainless steel tubing by drilling and tapping holes 
> for the 14 bolts. To get the angle right for the mainsheet I wanted 
> the bar to be able to rotate. I ended up using several pieces of off 
> the shelf rail brackets that are shown in the close up photo of the 
> traveller end. I used a hinged rail clamp that comes with a 
> spring-loaded fast pin that holds the pulpit anchor which in turn 
> holds the traveller bar. I adjusted the angle by rotating the bar and then
clamped it in place with the pulpit anchor bolts.
> The fast pins allow me to remove the traveller very quickly and easily.
>
> I have on order a traveller car that fits my track and includes two 
> cam cleats on it. That way I have no need for blocks and cam cleats at 
> the ends of the traveller.  After years of restoration work I have 
> actually sailed the boat yesterday and today in 15 knot winds and it 
> appears that the traveller works quite well for me. It is an amazing 
> sensation to actually be on the water again!
>
> Speaking of motor access, I made a shifter extension for the motor 
> which is shown in the picture of the full traveller. It consists of 
> grey plastic conduit (1" inside diameter) with a hinge that I made 
> from 1" dowel. The short end slips over the shift lever on the motor. 
> Because it is not attached otherwise it can be removed instantly just 
> by lifting it up and it is also able to  rotate in place so it does 
> not get in the way when I use the motor to steer tight turns. It is 
> kind of crude but works. I think I will redo the hinge to make it a 
> bit beefier and also include a knob at the join that will allow me to
change the tension.
>
> Thanks to everyone who have helped me with these issues.
>
> Graham
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Aug 13 20:40:13 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:40:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] location of the mast step bracket
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When I repainted my deck I failed to note exactly where the mast step bracket was located. I assumed that it was centered on the mast step pad but that turned out to be incorrect. In that location the pop top bracket would not engage with the slot in the mast. So I moved the bracket back and now my pop top does not seat properly on the cabin top. If anyone can tell me the exact location of the bracket on the step pad I would be most grateful. I have the original non-furling mast. A picture would be great.

Thanks,
 
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada





From hnw555 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 21:17:12 2017
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:17:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
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Graham,

Other than that concern, I think it is a great idea.  It's just that you're
using the pulpit for a purpose for which it was not designed.

Good luck!

Hank

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Hank:
> I appreciate your caution. The stern rail is bolted on to the boat although
> I intend to beef that up next spring as the bolts are short and the backing
> washers are only small washers. I will also need to keep an eye on the set
> screws that hold the rail together. In the final analysis I have no idea
> whether the rail is sufficiently strong for the traveller. I am relying on
> others who have used this sort of arrangement for a number of years
> apparently without problems. I will keep my fingers crossed and inspect
> regularly.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Hank
> Sent: August 13, 2017 11:07 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
>
> I would be concerned that the load from the mainsail could be more than the
> pulpit can handle.  You should make sure that your pulpit is installed with
> good backing plates and not just screwed into the fiberglass or you may
> lose
> the pulpit some day.
>
> Hank
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > After so many shared with me their traveller adaptations I thought I
> > should post what I finally ended up with - particularly because I
> > stole ideas from just about everyone.
> >
> > I decided to go with the traveller attached to the stern pulpit. There
> > were a number of reasons for this including the fact that by placing
> > it there access to the motor was less impeded.
> >
> > I had my old traveller track that I wanted to use and so I attached it
> > to a 5' piece of stainless steel tubing by drilling and tapping holes
> > for the 14 bolts. To get the angle right for the mainsheet I wanted
> > the bar to be able to rotate. I ended up using several pieces of off
> > the shelf rail brackets that are shown in the close up photo of the
> > traveller end. I used a hinged rail clamp that comes with a
> > spring-loaded fast pin that holds the pulpit anchor which in turn
> > holds the traveller bar. I adjusted the angle by rotating the bar and
> then
> clamped it in place with the pulpit anchor bolts.
> > The fast pins allow me to remove the traveller very quickly and easily.
> >
> > I have on order a traveller car that fits my track and includes two
> > cam cleats on it. That way I have no need for blocks and cam cleats at
> > the ends of the traveller.  After years of restoration work I have
> > actually sailed the boat yesterday and today in 15 knot winds and it
> > appears that the traveller works quite well for me. It is an amazing
> > sensation to actually be on the water again!
> >
> > Speaking of motor access, I made a shifter extension for the motor
> > which is shown in the picture of the full traveller. It consists of
> > grey plastic conduit (1" inside diameter) with a hinge that I made
> > from 1" dowel. The short end slips over the shift lever on the motor.
> > Because it is not attached otherwise it can be removed instantly just
> > by lifting it up and it is also able to  rotate in place so it does
> > not get in the way when I use the motor to steer tight turns. It is
> > kind of crude but works. I think I will redo the hinge to make it a
> > bit beefier and also include a knob at the join that will allow me to
> change the tension.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who have helped me with these issues.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
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From ruckc at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 13 21:32:15 2017
From: ruckc at yahoo.com (Curtis Ruck)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 01:32:15 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
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Not sure if the IMF Mast changes things, but with my CDI furler, its just
wrapped around a standard 1/8" stainless forestay.  On my '79 it is just a
professionally crimped fitting on the cable, and a 1/4" pin attaching the
forestay to the masthead.

Hearing your story though makes me want to replace my 1/4" pin in the
masthead as it was fairly bent... 10-15 degree angle, though given the
width of the pin, the bend may be intentional to keep it from sliding side
to side.

Curtis
Havre de Grace, MD
s/v Ruck It

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:00 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> I went down to Groton today to do a boat project and go for a short
> afternoon sail.  Winds were light and I was just puttering along in
> Fisher?s Island Sound when there was a loud snap and the next thing I knew
> my 175 genoa was floating in the water along side my boat.  The bottom was
> still attached at the bow, but the top was no longer attached to the top of
> the mast.
>
> This is a CDI furler, and an IMF mast.
>
> I managed to get the motor lowered and started, the main furled, and then
> the genoa stashed along the port gunwale.  The very top of the roller
> reefing assembly was still dragging in the water behind the boat, but I was
> pretty sure that it would remain clear of the outboard prop.
>
> With all that done, I was able to motor calmly back to the marina and pick
> up my mooring.  Before leaving the boat, I lashed the genoa more securely,
> disconnected it at the bow, and shifted the whole package forward a bit so
> that both ends were out of the water.  What I didn?t think to do, for some
> reason, was to inspect the top of the furler assembly or the top of the
> mast (using binoculars) to get a better sense of what had failed and what
> might be required to put things right.
>
> I have disconnected the furler assembly from the mast several times in the
> past, but now can?t really recall what the connection looked like.  In
> looking at some things I found online, it would seem that I should expect
> to see some bits of rigging hardware (part of the actual forestay)
> extending above the plastic top cap of the CDI assembly.  I?m pretty sure
> that at the moment there is nothing that extends beyond the top cap, which
> if true would suggest that the forestay itself has failed.
>
> Of course the good news in all of this is that the mast has remained more
> or less vertical through the entire process.
>
> I won?t be able to pull the boat out of the water, drop the mast, and
> inspect things more closely until Monday.  In the mean time, I?m left to
> wonder what hoops I?ll need to jump through to get my boat ready to sail
> again.  Any insights or advice from the list would be greatly appreciated.
> And, as always, a picture is worth 1000 words.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From ruckc at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 13 21:47:34 2017
From: ruckc at yahoo.com (Curtis Ruck)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 01:47:34 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
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Graham,

When I worked on my windward traveler on harken track on fiberglass tubing,
I did the calculations for load... at 30 knot winds (estimating for a worst
case gust) estimations had the traveler only putting 450lbs force on my two
backstays.

Though my math was focused on the traveler rail and tubing failure, the
force should be comparable to what is exerted on railing.

From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 22:46:20 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 22:46:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Thanlks, Graham.

I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least 18-20? of travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38? length. I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.

Jay


> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jay:
> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass through three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to the cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is free. I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same for the diamond board.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
> 
> Jay Friedland
> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 14 11:46:48 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:46:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
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References: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
 <82456E16-3326-482F-89F2-65242B93067E@sunnybeeches.com>
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Message-ID: <002a01d31514$8a3f9bb0$9ebed310$@ca>

For what it is worth, when I was reviewing various furlers for my boat I came across several makers who strongly recommended attaching the stay at both ends with toggles rather than have the swag attached directly to the masthead and chainplate. Apparently the sideways stress and movement with the furler is magnified as the stay does not flex along its full length to the same degree and that can lead to the stay breaking. Apparently this happened to Gary Novotny, a member of this  list, within months of installing his new furling gear. Shaefer requires that toggles be installed with their system. Makes sense to me and would be a reasonable precaution to take.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list
Sent: August 13, 2017 9:32 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler

Not sure if the IMF Mast changes things, but with my CDI furler, its just wrapped around a standard 1/8" stainless forestay.  On my '79 it is just a professionally crimped fitting on the cable, and a 1/4" pin attaching the forestay to the masthead.

Hearing your story though makes me want to replace my 1/4" pin in the masthead as it was fairly bent... 10-15 degree angle, though given the width of the pin, the bend may be intentional to keep it from sliding side to side.

Curtis
Havre de Grace, MD
s/v Ruck It

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:00 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> I went down to Groton today to do a boat project and go for a short 
> afternoon sail.  Winds were light and I was just puttering along in 
> Fisher?s Island Sound when there was a loud snap and the next thing I 
> knew my 175 genoa was floating in the water along side my boat.  The 
> bottom was still attached at the bow, but the top was no longer 
> attached to the top of the mast.
>
> This is a CDI furler, and an IMF mast.
>
> I managed to get the motor lowered and started, the main furled, and 
> then the genoa stashed along the port gunwale.  The very top of the 
> roller reefing assembly was still dragging in the water behind the 
> boat, but I was pretty sure that it would remain clear of the outboard prop.
>
> With all that done, I was able to motor calmly back to the marina and 
> pick up my mooring.  Before leaving the boat, I lashed the genoa more 
> securely, disconnected it at the bow, and shifted the whole package 
> forward a bit so that both ends were out of the water.  What I didn?t 
> think to do, for some reason, was to inspect the top of the furler 
> assembly or the top of the mast (using binoculars) to get a better 
> sense of what had failed and what might be required to put things right.
>
> I have disconnected the furler assembly from the mast several times in 
> the past, but now can?t really recall what the connection looked like.  
> In looking at some things I found online, it would seem that I should 
> expect to see some bits of rigging hardware (part of the actual 
> forestay) extending above the plastic top cap of the CDI assembly.  
> I?m pretty sure that at the moment there is nothing that extends 
> beyond the top cap, which if true would suggest that the forestay itself has failed.
>
> Of course the good news in all of this is that the mast has remained 
> more or less vertical through the entire process.
>
> I won?t be able to pull the boat out of the water, drop the mast, and 
> inspect things more closely until Monday.  In the mean time, I?m left 
> to wonder what hoops I?ll need to jump through to get my boat ready to 
> sail again.  Any insights or advice from the list would be greatly appreciated.
> And, as always, a picture is worth 1000 words.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> __________________________________________________
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 12:14:36 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:14:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
In-Reply-To: <002a01d31514$8a3f9bb0$9ebed310$@ca>
References: <CADNTwiXakJM5-bh_oqR_krf-iatKcCYse_5TztOiX-zBHsG3eg@mail.gmail.com>
 <82456E16-3326-482F-89F2-65242B93067E@sunnybeeches.com>
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I still have the old fashioned original Alum tube and bushings on Enosis.
Lost the forestay many years ago on another Rhodes, it failed at the
bottom.  On my current boat I found that there were a couple of broken
wires in the stay and replaced it with one size up.  Can't remember the
size.  Don't expect any problems.  The last stay lasted only 6 or 7 years
so this one should be good for more.
Chris Geankoplis
Waiting for my boat to come in :)

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
wrote:

> For what it is worth, when I was reviewing various furlers for my boat I
> came across several makers who strongly recommended attaching the stay at
> both ends with toggles rather than have the swag attached directly to the
> masthead and chainplate. Apparently the sideways stress and movement with
> the furler is magnified as the stay does not flex along its full length to
> the same degree and that can lead to the stay breaking. Apparently this
> happened to Gary Novotny, a member of this  list, within months of
> installing his new furling gear. Shaefer requires that toggles be installed
> with their system. Makes sense to me and would be a reasonable precaution
> to take.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: August 13, 2017 9:32 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
>
> Not sure if the IMF Mast changes things, but with my CDI furler, its just
> wrapped around a standard 1/8" stainless forestay.  On my '79 it is just a
> professionally crimped fitting on the cable, and a 1/4" pin attaching the
> forestay to the masthead.
>
> Hearing your story though makes me want to replace my 1/4" pin in the
> masthead as it was fairly bent... 10-15 degree angle, though given the
> width of the pin, the bend may be intentional to keep it from sliding side
> to side.
>
> Curtis
> Havre de Grace, MD
> s/v Ruck It
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:00 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I went down to Groton today to do a boat project and go for a short
> > afternoon sail.  Winds were light and I was just puttering along in
> > Fisher?s Island Sound when there was a loud snap and the next thing I
> > knew my 175 genoa was floating in the water along side my boat.  The
> > bottom was still attached at the bow, but the top was no longer
> > attached to the top of the mast.
> >
> > This is a CDI furler, and an IMF mast.
> >
> > I managed to get the motor lowered and started, the main furled, and
> > then the genoa stashed along the port gunwale.  The very top of the
> > roller reefing assembly was still dragging in the water behind the
> > boat, but I was pretty sure that it would remain clear of the outboard
> prop.
> >
> > With all that done, I was able to motor calmly back to the marina and
> > pick up my mooring.  Before leaving the boat, I lashed the genoa more
> > securely, disconnected it at the bow, and shifted the whole package
> > forward a bit so that both ends were out of the water.  What I didn?t
> > think to do, for some reason, was to inspect the top of the furler
> > assembly or the top of the mast (using binoculars) to get a better
> > sense of what had failed and what might be required to put things right.
> >
> > I have disconnected the furler assembly from the mast several times in
> > the past, but now can?t really recall what the connection looked like.
> > In looking at some things I found online, it would seem that I should
> > expect to see some bits of rigging hardware (part of the actual
> > forestay) extending above the plastic top cap of the CDI assembly.
> > I?m pretty sure that at the moment there is nothing that extends
> > beyond the top cap, which if true would suggest that the forestay itself
> has failed.
> >
> > Of course the good news in all of this is that the mast has remained
> > more or less vertical through the entire process.
> >
> > I won?t be able to pull the boat out of the water, drop the mast, and
> > inspect things more closely until Monday.  In the mean time, I?m left
> > to wonder what hoops I?ll need to jump through to get my boat ready to
> > sail again.  Any insights or advice from the list would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > And, as always, a picture is worth 1000 words.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 12:21:34 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:21:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain 8-14-16
Message-ID: <CADNTwiX8EqygYXvavz4hfYwrjr-muFP_feRdxLzM-YciWb2rNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Finally got word that the little boat is actually on the RORO.  A good
thing as it left Saturday morning from a different part of the port and I
was just a bit nervous that someone might have forgotten Enosis, all tucked
away in a corner.  Well no problems.  Just have to see what it looks like
after they unload it in Barcelona.  Enjoying the food and wine here in
Livorno.  A nice way to kill some time.  Can't wait until I sail in here
with Enosis next year and moor next to the castle.

Chris Geankoplis

From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 12:25:35 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:25:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain 8-14-16
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX8EqygYXvavz4hfYwrjr-muFP_feRdxLzM-YciWb2rNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX8EqygYXvavz4hfYwrjr-muFP_feRdxLzM-YciWb2rNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9Yu94OVBuG9_=VMjzwty_S_pE=53cn=QMB2Lw0CRha5Qg@mail.gmail.com>

Several years ago my crew and I were stuck in LIvorno waiting for a Yacht
to be delivered and so we spent a few days exploring Tuscany and Florence.
Great fun and plenty of great flood.

S/v Waif

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Finally got word that the little boat is actually on the RORO.  A good
> thing as it left Saturday morning from a different part of the port and I
> was just a bit nervous that someone might have forgotten Enosis, all tucked
> away in a corner.  Well no problems.  Just have to see what it looks like
> after they unload it in Barcelona.  Enjoying the food and wine here in
> Livorno.  A nice way to kill some time.  Can't wait until I sail in here
> with Enosis next year and moor next to the castle.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
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>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 14 12:37:10 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:37:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.
In-Reply-To: <CAFgGLFfzc9Yae5Ht1Yyz98RCh9YYLQM1PBYDrA-ZS+ht2p12fQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <15d8ecaf614-2e35-30997@webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>
 <008701d30983$99056630$cb103290$@ca>
 <1269238C-923F-4FA2-8462-FF309EDFDC2F@stottarchitecture.com>
 <010c01d313d6$81e0f890$85a2e9b0$@ca>
 <CADQNfMBxtsGNBu8t-xTOU_6g+x+uNb0+9nHurEVM97m7nAvxaw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <003301d3151b$93492120$b9db6360$@ca>

Curtis:

I admire enormously people who can make calculations like that. Sure beats
standing there and giving the rail a good shake.

Actually, 450 lbs of force seems like a lot to me. The tubing would be
plenty strong  but it might bend or come apart with a sudden force that
great. 

Does anyone have a clue what force it might sustain assuming it is attached
sufficiently well to the boat?


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list
Sent: August 13, 2017 9:48 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New traveller and shift extender.

Graham,

When I worked on my windward traveler on harken track on fiberglass tubing,
I did the calculations for load... at 30 knot winds (estimating for a worst
case gust) estimations had the traveler only putting 450lbs force on my two
backstays.

Though my math was focused on the traveler rail and tubing failure, the
force should be comparable to what is exerted on railing.
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 14 12:55:11 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:55:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
In-Reply-To: <CD80E0EB-A4C7-48AE-B2C2-0C15B7807201@gmail.com>
References: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>
 <000c01d31493$f6cfd500$e46f7f00$@ca>
 <CD80E0EB-A4C7-48AE-B2C2-0C15B7807201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003401d3151e$17c03130$47409390$@ca>

Jay:
I had misunderstood your original message.

I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing. With board down all but a few inches are used.

My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length

Thanlks, Graham.

I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least 18-20? of travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38? length. I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.

Jay


> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jay:
> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass through three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to the cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is free. I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same for the diamond board.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
> 
> Jay Friedland
> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 13:07:06 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:07:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain 8-14-16
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9Yu94OVBuG9_=VMjzwty_S_pE=53cn=QMB2Lw0CRha5Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX8EqygYXvavz4hfYwrjr-muFP_feRdxLzM-YciWb2rNQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9Yu94OVBuG9_=VMjzwty_S_pE=53cn=QMB2Lw0CRha5Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiX6yb594toH_AHkkPLgaUVrV0yqs3GFbPUhcd7SpR-5hg@mail.gmail.com>

So I tip a Moretti to you tonight.  Gotta admit it isn't such a bad place
for a 6 day layover.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Several years ago my crew and I were stuck in LIvorno waiting for a Yacht
> to be delivered and so we spent a few days exploring Tuscany and Florence.
> Great fun and plenty of great flood.
>
> S/v Waif
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>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Finally got word that the little boat is actually on the RORO.  A good
> > thing as it left Saturday morning from a different part of the port and I
> > was just a bit nervous that someone might have forgotten Enosis, all
> tucked
> > away in a corner.  Well no problems.  Just have to see what it looks like
> > after they unload it in Barcelona.  Enjoying the food and wine here in
> > Livorno.  A nice way to kill some time.  Can't wait until I sail in here
> > with Enosis next year and moor next to the castle.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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> >
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 13:25:53 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:25:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
In-Reply-To: <003401d3151e$17c03130$47409390$@ca>
References: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>
 <000c01d31493$f6cfd500$e46f7f00$@ca>
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 <003401d3151e$17c03130$47409390$@ca>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9Yc2SLtu9rmALVF8X34jipkzzD0yEEnC=zdQw20hbhUtA@mail.gmail.com>

Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when you
have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
suggestion

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
wrote:

> Jay:
> I had misunderstood your original message.
>
> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>
> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Jay Friedland
> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>
> Thanlks, Graham.
>
> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had the
> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least 18-20? of
> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38? length.
> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>
> Jay
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Jay:
> > The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass through
> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to the
> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is free.
> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same for
> the diamond board.
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jay Friedland
> > Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> >
> > Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I
> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
> >
> > Jay Friedland
> > s/v Wanderlust ?97
> > __________________________________________________
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Aug 14 13:57:30 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:57:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9Yc2SLtu9rmALVF8X34jipkzzD0yEEnC=zdQw20hbhUtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE660234-5ED9-478B-9514-D616B2FB82D9@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9E9CBB3B-3089-456B-A74A-F9A6AD8E9EE0@stottarchitecture.com>

I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift. 
It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks. 
Ric
sv Dadventure






> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when you
> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
> suggestion
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> 
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>> Jay:
>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>> 
>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>> 
>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>> 
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
>> Of Jay Friedland
>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>> 
>> Thanlks, Graham.
>> 
>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had the
>> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least 18-20? of
>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38? length.
>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>> 
>> Jay
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jay:
>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass through
>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to the
>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is free.
>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same for
>> the diamond board.
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>> 
>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I
>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>> 
>>> Jay Friedland
>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 15:23:27 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:23:27 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through the
possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the board came
down when I was launching -'nuff said.

I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his
infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with one
block if you choose to go this route.



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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
wrote:

> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the gasketed
> top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was cracked due to a
> grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the hose parts which
> occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board from sliding up in its
> tracks and hitting the cap - which is apparently what happened.  Anyway -
> the board is not that heavy and although I replaced the line and blocks, I
> questioned myself at the time, that all that purchase adds more friction
> than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is a
> direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
> Ric
> sv Dadventure
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when
> you
> > have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
> > suggestion
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> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jay:
> >> I had misunderstood your original message.
> >>
> >> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
> >> With board down all but a few inches are used.
> >>
> >> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> Agile. R22, 1976
> >> Kingston Ontario Canada
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jay Friedland
> >> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> >>
> >> Thanlks, Graham.
> >>
> >> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had the
> >> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least
> 18-20? of
> >> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
> length.
> >> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jay:
> >>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
> through
> >> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to
> the
> >> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is
> free.
> >> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same
> for
> >> the diamond board.
> >>>
> >>> Graham Stewart
> >>> Agile. R22, 1976
> >>> Kingston Ontario Canada
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
> >>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> >>>
> >>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I
> >> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
> >> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
> >>>
> >>> Jay Friedland
> >>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
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> >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
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> >>
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> c- 516-965-3164
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Aug 14 15:34:17 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:34:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
thanks 
ric 
sv Dadventure 
Hampton Bays 



> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through the
> possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the board came
> down when I was launching -'nuff said.
> 
> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his
> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with one
> block if you choose to go this route.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the gasketed
>> top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was cracked due to a
>> grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the hose parts which
>> occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board from sliding up in its
>> tracks and hitting the cap - which is apparently what happened.  Anyway -
>> the board is not that heavy and although I replaced the line and blocks, I
>> questioned myself at the time, that all that purchase adds more friction
>> than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is a
>> direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when
>> you
>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
>>> suggestion
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>> 
>>> Richard Beytagh
>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jay:
>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>> 
>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>> 
>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>> 
>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>> 
>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had the
>>>> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least
>> 18-20? of
>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>> length.
>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>> 
>>>> Jay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay:
>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>> through
>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to
>> the
>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is
>> free.
>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same
>> for
>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond board. I
>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________
>>>> ____________________
>>>> 
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>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
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>> go
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>>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> o- 631-283-1777
>> c- 516-965-3164
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 14 16:19:24 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:19:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Does anybody have a photo or diagram of the Diamondboard setup just in case I
have an urgent need?    I removed the wood shroud after my birdsnest plug
when the bilge was filling with rainwater.   I saw the tube fastened by
clamp behind the wood shroud inside the cabin.   This appears to be above
waterline unlike the removable cap, and in my case must leak when the tube
is full of rainwater wetting the step and draining into the bilge.   I could
not feel any cracks, but it leaks when the cockpit seats collect water.     

My bilge did not fill with the last 3" downpour, so I am hopeful the issue
was a failure of the hose to seal against pressure and a floating grass plug
at the top of the well that has finally rotted away.  Snaking did not help.  
Unlikely scenario, but less bad than a crack.   I'll test with a bucket and
and if needed tear it apart before my Lake Erie trip next month, hence the
questions.   The pennant runs through the companionway drain tube.  The
throat is molded into the centerboard housing aft of the cap and elevated
above the cap and waterline.  The centerboard has top hangers.   The cap
gasket, hangers and pennant are accessible when the boat is on the hard if
the shroud, carpet, bench top, step / drawer assembly,  and sole center
strip of plywood are removed.  The tube and clamp are sort of accessible
just by removing the wood shroud at the companionway and the tube is above
waterline so this could be taken apart with difficulty while the boat is in
the water.   Am I close?



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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 16:35:03 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:35:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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If you eliminated the blocks all together you would not be able to get a
direct vertical pull on the CB. You could laminate a S/S tube like there is
in the aft section of the lid as a tuning point but might as well keep the
blocks. I don't have the diamond board so I cant advise on that. Quite
frankly the traditional CB works fine for me and is useful as a shallow
water warning when it scrapes on the bottom.

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
wrote:

> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to
> omit the blocks?
> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks?
> thanks
> ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
>
>
>
> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through the
> > possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the board came
> > down when I was launching -'nuff said.
> >
> > I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his
> > infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with
> one
> > block if you choose to go this route.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Richard Beytagh
> > Phone: 828 337 0180
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the gasketed
> >> top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was cracked due to a
> >> grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the hose parts which
> >> occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board from sliding up in its
> >> tracks and hitting the cap - which is apparently what happened.  Anyway
> -
> >> the board is not that heavy and although I replaced the line and
> blocks, I
> >> questioned myself at the time, that all that purchase adds more friction
> >> than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
> >> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is a
> >> direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
> >> Ric
> >> sv Dadventure
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when
> >> you
> >>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
> >>> suggestion
> >>>
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> >> utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
> >>> Virus-free.
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
> >>>
> >>> Richard Beytagh
> >>> Phone: 828 337 0180
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jay:
> >>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line
> showing.
> >>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
> >>>>
> >>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham Stewart
> >>>> Agile. R22, 1976
> >>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >>>> Of Jay Friedland
> >>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanlks, Graham.
> >>>>
> >>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had
> the
> >>>> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least
> >> 18-20? of
> >>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
> >> length.
> >>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jay
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jay:
> >>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
> >> through
> >>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to
> >> the
> >>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is
> >> free.
> >>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same
> >> for
> >>>> the diamond board.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Graham Stewart
> >>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
> >>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
> >>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond
> board. I
> >>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
> >>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jay Friedland
> >>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
> >>>>> __________________________________________________
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From borderfolle at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 16:37:08 2017
From: borderfolle at yahoo.com (Donald Simons)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:37:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Years ago I bought an '81 Rhodes from Stan, and now have an '03 with the diamond board. ?The standard board uses some pulleys/sheaves to give a mechanical advantage. ?The diamond board is directly attached to the trailing edge of the board. ?Last year a mouse chewed up my CB pennant while the boat was stored for the winter. ? I used a mask and fins to replace the pennant. ?It took several attempts, but I placed a knot on the pennant when the board was correctly lowered. ?The top of the board is wider and helps fill the gap in the trunk when it is lowered to the correct position.
Don Simons, Ithaca, NY

      From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
 To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 4:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
   
Does anybody have a photo or diagram of the Diamondboard setup just in case I
have an urgent need?? ? I removed the wood shroud after my birdsnest plug
when the bilge was filling with rainwater.? I saw the tube fastened by
clamp behind the wood shroud inside the cabin.? This appears to be above
waterline unlike the removable cap, and in my case must leak when the tube
is full of rainwater wetting the step and draining into the bilge.? I could
not feel any cracks, but it leaks when the cockpit seats collect water.? ? 

My bilge did not fill with the last 3" downpour, so I am hopeful the issue
was a failure of the hose to seal against pressure and a floating grass plug
at the top of the well that has finally rotted away.? Snaking did not help.? 
Unlikely scenario, but less bad than a crack.? I'll test with a bucket and
and if needed tear it apart before my Lake Erie trip next month, hence the
questions.? The pennant runs through the companionway drain tube.? The
throat is molded into the centerboard housing aft of the cap and elevated
above the cap and waterline.? The centerboard has top hangers.? The cap
gasket, hangers and pennant are accessible when the boat is on the hard if
the shroud, carpet, bench top, step / drawer assembly,? and sole center
strip of plywood are removed.? The tube and clamp are sort of accessible
just by removing the wood shroud at the companionway and the tube is above
waterline so this could be taken apart with difficulty while the boat is in
the water.? Am I close?



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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 14 18:33:26 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:33:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New owner catching up
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Congratulations.   I hope you guys have a lot of fun.   Outboards suck, my
next one will be electric.  

Madison is nice in the summer, but surviving the Texas heat is an epic feat
of seamanship.       I love reports of people using their boat, even if I
don't make it to half the places.   Any pictures?    Was the foiler that was
killed by the DNR boat on your Wisconsin lake?   

I spent years mostly singlehanding a 2 man Buccaneer 18 (The Rod
Macalpine-Downie and Dick Gibbs design, not the heavy slow bathtub with the
same name).  That boat has been described as "Fast boat, initially very
tender but firms up just before it capsizes" so I was kind of jumpy when I
came to the Rhodes-22.   It took me a while not to ease the sheet every time
the rubrail got wet and realize she just doesn't care if you wash the decks
on occasion.    I personally limit the main to only one '2' visible and
start with half a jib when the wind is in the 20's or gusting a lot.  I also
reef the main quickly if the weather might be building, since it seems much
harder to reef  in a heavy wind.     I'll play with the jib but not trust
more main until I'm really sure.   The vertical batten mainsail is a bit
fuller, so a tad more caution helps vs the batten-less sail that lacks a
roach.

How do you scull the Rhodes?   

Alex Cole
Lark, 2002 model partially recycled in 2015. 





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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Aug 14 18:52:33 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:52:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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All in all - me too. 
I?m fine with what I got. 
Ric 
sv 
Dadventure 

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If you eliminated the blocks all together you would not be able to get a
> direct vertical pull on the CB. You could laminate a S/S tube like there is
> in the aft section of the lid as a tuning point but might as well keep the
> blocks. I don't have the diamond board so I cant advise on that. Quite
> frankly the traditional CB works fine for me and is useful as a shallow
> water warning when it scrapes on the bottom.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ~~~ _/) ~~~
> 
> Richard Beytagh
> Phone: 828 337 0180
> 
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to
>> omit the blocks?
>> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks?
>> thanks
>> ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through the
>>> possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the board came
>>> down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>>> 
>>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his
>>> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with
>> one
>>> block if you choose to go this route.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>> 
>>> Richard Beytagh
>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott <
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the gasketed
>>>> top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was cracked due to a
>>>> grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the hose parts which
>>>> occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board from sliding up in its
>>>> tracks and hitting the cap - which is apparently what happened.  Anyway
>> -
>>>> the board is not that heavy and although I replaced the line and
>> blocks, I
>>>> questioned myself at the time, that all that purchase adds more friction
>>>> than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is a
>>>> direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when
>>>> you
>>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
>>>>> suggestion
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line
>> showing.
>>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had
>> the
>>>>>> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least
>>>> 18-20? of
>>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>>> length.
>>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>>> through
>>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to
>>>> the
>>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is
>>>> free.
>>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same
>>>> for
>>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond
>> board. I
>>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
>>>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>> archives
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>> archives
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>>>> 
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Aug 14 19:12:00 2017
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (peter at sunnybeeches.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:12:00 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
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Message-ID: <20170814161200.Horde.ZZE2vADjmjUc0srJ_06DMc7@oberon.lunarpages.com>

I was finally able to return to Groton with my trailer today.  I  
hauled the boat, packed it for travel, and brought it home.  Once  
home, I disassembled the furler, and took a look at what was left of  
forestay attachment hardware at the top of the mast.

As I suspected, the failure occurred near the top of the mast.  The  
forestay wire itself was completely intact.  The bit of hardware  
attached to the upper end of the ware failed.  At the point of  
failure, it looks like there may be the start of a threaded portion.   
The piece still attached at the top of the mast looks like it?s shaped  
to accept a cylindrical (sp ?) piece of hardware.  I?m at a loss to  
recall the bits of gear that allowed this connection to be made.

I?ll try to attach a picture of the pieces I found.

I hope to visit a rigger in the next day or two in the hopes that a  
professional will be able to figure this out.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 14 19:13:28 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:13:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 

The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length

I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
thanks
ric
sv Dadventure
Hampton Bays 



> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
> 
> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his 
> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with 
> one block if you choose to go this route.
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the 
>> hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board 
>> from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is 
>> a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>> when
>> you
>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just 
>>> a suggestion
>>> 
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>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jay:
>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>> 
>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>> 
>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>> 
>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>> 
>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at 
>>>> least
>> 18-20? of
>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>> length.
>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>> 
>>>> Jay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay:
>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>> through
>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading 
>>>> to
>> the
>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that 
>>>> is
>> free.
>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>> same
>> for
>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>> board. I
>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured 
>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From ruckc at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 20:04:17 2017
From: ruckc at yahoo.com (Curtis Ruck)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 00:04:17 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
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Peter,

You had a T-Bolt attachment at the masthead.

Most likely you would need to get a new forestay run up through the CDI
furler with a new T-Bolt swaged fitting.  Something like this...

I just redid my backstays, and I used swageless Hayn Hi-Mod Compression Eye
, but this was done at the chainplate, so repair would be much simpler in
case of failure.

I'd recommend a professional replacing the forestay as swaging presses are
typically outside normal price ranges, but if your feeling adventurous....
You could replace your forestay yourself with replacement 1x19 T316 1/8"
stainless cable and Hayn Hi-Mod Compression fittings on both ends.  Since
you have the entire cable, measuring for length would be trivial, and
replacing it would be ~$150 between cable, fittings, and shipping, and
about an hours worth of work.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?name=hayn-toggle-jaw&path=-1|118|2358509|2358515&id=78887

https://theriggingco.com/2016/11/14/mechanical-or-swage/
https://www.amazon.com/ArkHardware-Stainless-Steel-Commercial-Marine/dp/B015HMRV70/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1502755210&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=1x19%2B1%2F8%2BT316&th=1
http://hayn.com/marine/rigging/himod.html



On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:12 PM <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> I was finally able to return to Groton with my trailer today.  I
> hauled the boat, packed it for travel, and brought it home.  Once
> home, I disassembled the furler, and took a look at what was left of
> forestay attachment hardware at the top of the mast.
>
> As I suspected, the failure occurred near the top of the mast.  The
> forestay wire itself was completely intact.  The bit of hardware
> attached to the upper end of the ware failed.  At the point of
> failure, it looks like there may be the start of a threaded portion.
> The piece still attached at the top of the mast looks like it?s shaped
> to accept a cylindrical (sp ?) piece of hardware.  I?m at a loss to
> recall the bits of gear that allowed this connection to be made.
>
> I?ll try to attach a picture of the pieces I found.
>
> I hope to visit a rigger in the next day or two in the hopes that a
> professional will be able to figure this out.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 14 20:34:28 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:34:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
In-Reply-To: <20170814161200.Horde.ZZE2vADjmjUc0srJ_06DMc7@oberon.lunarpages.com>
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Peter:
The head of the shank that fits into the toggle broke off. I wonder if it was unable to rotate for some reason.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of peter at sunnybeeches.com
Sent: August 14, 2017 7:12 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler

I was finally able to return to Groton with my trailer today.  I hauled the boat, packed it for travel, and brought it home.  Once home, I disassembled the furler, and took a look at what was left of forestay attachment hardware at the top of the mast.

As I suspected, the failure occurred near the top of the mast.  The forestay wire itself was completely intact.  The bit of hardware attached to the upper end of the ware failed.  At the point of  
failure, it looks like there may be the start of a threaded portion.   
The piece still attached at the top of the mast looks like it?s shaped to accept a cylindrical (sp ?) piece of hardware.  I?m at a loss to recall the bits of gear that allowed this connection to be made.

I?ll try to attach a picture of the pieces I found.

I hope to visit a rigger in the next day or two in the hopes that a professional will be able to figure this out.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 20:38:44 2017
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:38:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Sooo, Don & Co., what length of pendant did wind up with, giving you full travel?

Jay Friedland
S/V Wanderlust

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> All in all - me too. 
> I?m fine with what I got. 
> Ric 
> sv 
> Dadventure 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> If you eliminated the blocks all together you would not be able to get a
>> direct vertical pull on the CB. You could laminate a S/S tube like there is
>> in the aft section of the lid as a tuning point but might as well keep the
>> blocks. I don't have the diamond board so I cant advise on that. Quite
>> frankly the traditional CB works fine for me and is useful as a shallow
>> water warning when it scrapes on the bottom.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>> 
>> Richard Beytagh
>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to
>>> omit the blocks?
>>> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks?
>>> thanks
>>> ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> Hampton Bays
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through the
>>>> possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the board came
>>>> down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>>>> 
>>>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his
>>>> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with
>>> one
>>>> block if you choose to go this route.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott <
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the gasketed
>>>>> top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was cracked due to a
>>>>> grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the hose parts which
>>>>> occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board from sliding up in its
>>>>> tracks and hitting the cap - which is apparently what happened.  Anyway
>>> -
>>>>> the board is not that heavy and although I replaced the line and
>>> blocks, I
>>>>> questioned myself at the time, that all that purchase adds more friction
>>>>> than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is a
>>>>> direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and when
>>>>> you
>>>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just a
>>>>>> suggestion
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line
>>> showing.
>>>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 had
>>> the
>>>>>>> original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at least
>>>>> 18-20? of
>>>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>>>> length.
>>>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>>>> through
>>>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that is
>>>>> free.
>>>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the same
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond
>>> board. I
>>>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured
>>>>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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From rodellner at mac.com  Mon Aug 14 22:57:04 2017
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:57:04 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain 8-14-16
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX6yb594toH_AHkkPLgaUVrV0yqs3GFbPUhcd7SpR-5hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX8EqygYXvavz4hfYwrjr-muFP_feRdxLzM-YciWb2rNQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1AF71C39-600E-4AAF-9032-E338F231013A@mac.com>

Chris.   We are all traveling vicariously through you!   Keep up the posts!

Mary and Rod
-st Croix river-WI

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So I tip a Moretti to you tonight.  Gotta admit it isn't such a bad place
> for a 6 day layover.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Several years ago my crew and I were stuck in LIvorno waiting for a Yacht
>> to be delivered and so we spent a few days exploring Tuscany and Florence.
>> Great fun and plenty of great flood.
>> 
>> S/v Waif
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>> 
>> Richard Beytagh
>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Finally got word that the little boat is actually on the RORO.  A good
>>> thing as it left Saturday morning from a different part of the port and I
>>> was just a bit nervous that someone might have forgotten Enosis, all
>> tucked
>>> away in a corner.  Well no problems.  Just have to see what it looks like
>>> after they unload it in Barcelona.  Enjoying the food and wine here in
>>> Livorno.  A nice way to kill some time.  Can't wait until I sail in here
>>> with Enosis next year and moor next to the castle.
>>> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 04:57:00 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:57:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain 8-14-16
In-Reply-To: <1AF71C39-600E-4AAF-9032-E338F231013A@mac.com>
References: <CADNTwiX8EqygYXvavz4hfYwrjr-muFP_feRdxLzM-YciWb2rNQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Not much in the way of sailing subjects to report here.  Did get a quote to
haul, paint, store for 9 months and launch here in Livorno and it was
around $2000.  Not so cheap.  Some real horror stories from some Italian
sailors of the cost of the upscale marinas.  Having a small boat is no
advantage as they charge for the slip a minimum of 10m.  $200 to $500 a
night!  Jeez.  Definitely going to either anchor off or cuddle up with the
fishing boats if I can talk my way in.  Should be more boat talk coming up
around the 25th.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:

> Chris.   We are all traveling vicariously through you!   Keep up the posts!
>
> Mary and Rod
> -st Croix river-WI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So I tip a Moretti to you tonight.  Gotta admit it isn't such a bad place
> > for a 6 day layover.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Several years ago my crew and I were stuck in LIvorno waiting for a
> Yacht
> >> to be delivered and so we spent a few days exploring Tuscany and
> Florence.
> >> Great fun and plenty of great flood.
> >>
> >> S/v Waif
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ~~~ _/) ~~~
> >>
> >> Richard Beytagh
> >> Phone: 828 337 0180
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
> >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Finally got word that the little boat is actually on the RORO.  A good
> >>> thing as it left Saturday morning from a different part of the port
> and I
> >>> was just a bit nervous that someone might have forgotten Enosis, all
> >> tucked
> >>> away in a corner.  Well no problems.  Just have to see what it looks
> like
> >>> after they unload it in Barcelona.  Enjoying the food and wine here in
> >>> Livorno.  A nice way to kill some time.  Can't wait until I sail in
> here
> >>> with Enosis next year and moor next to the castle.
> >>>
> >>> Chris Geankoplis
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 05:32:11 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 05:32:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Mexico 1-4 & 5-16
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXKx_0yaAr2OAALs=G3Uak-BN=gsbgNfMXWQ8VzAzZ8VA@mail.gmail.com>

So, I think I have posted 1-2 and 1-3


January 4

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNN0JxMGVseHRRVms


January 5

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6TNygHUITxNNjZBRjlxMWZGV0U


Enjoy!

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Tue Aug 15 09:32:25 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:32:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Graham
I stuck with the original design too. I can tell you that the system I have is too difficult for my wife to lift. In fact its not so easy for me either. 
I know that its running  free and clear, but its still a heavy lift, especially the last 6 inches.  The diamond Board is most likely a solution to that issue; another upgrade that General Boats might offer someday. 
I agree that a long line at the end of the CB is not a good solution. If the CB cap was not such a big deal to remove and replace, I would experiment, but for now, as with other minor annoyances, I sail the boat as much as possible and enjoy it immensely. 
ric 
sv Dadventure 



> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 
> 
> The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
> Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
> thanks
> ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
>> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
>> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>> 
>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his 
>> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with 
>> one block if you choose to go this route.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>> 
>> Richard Beytagh
>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
>> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the 
>>> hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board 
>>> from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is 
>>> a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>> Ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>>> when
>>> you
>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just 
>>>> a suggestion
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>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jay:
>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at 
>>>>> least
>>> 18-20? of
>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>> length.
>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>> through
>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading 
>>>>> to
>>> the
>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that 
>>>>> is
>>> free.
>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>>> same
>>> for
>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>>> board. I
>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured 
>>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Tue Aug 15 09:56:16 2017
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:56:16 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
In-Reply-To: <20170814161200.Horde.ZZE2vADjmjUc0srJ_06DMc7@oberon.lunarpages.com>
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Peter,
Attached are a couple of photos that show the top of my head sail.  Not the best photos, but might give you an idea.  I agree with Chuck, looks like the T-bolt attachment broke. - rob



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of peter at sunnybeeches.com
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 7:12 PM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler

I was finally able to return to Groton with my trailer today.  I hauled the boat, packed it for travel, and brought it home.  Once home, I disassembled the furler, and took a look at what was left of forestay attachment hardware at the top of the mast.

As I suspected, the failure occurred near the top of the mast.  The forestay wire itself was completely intact.  The bit of hardware attached to the upper end of the ware failed.  At the point of  
failure, it looks like there may be the start of a threaded portion.   
The piece still attached at the top of the mast looks like it?s shaped to accept a cylindrical (sp ?) piece of hardware.  I?m at a loss to recall the bits of gear that allowed this connection to be made.

I?ll try to attach a picture of the pieces I found.

I hope to visit a rigger in the next day or two in the hopes that a professional will be able to figure this out.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 10:47:56 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:47:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
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Most of the mast rig comes from Dwyer. If you can give them the exact
dimensions they will swage up a new forestay for you at quite a reasonable
price.

Cheers
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:12 PM, <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> I was finally able to return to Groton with my trailer today.  I hauled
> the boat, packed it for travel, and brought it home.  Once home, I
> disassembled the furler, and took a look at what was left of forestay
> attachment hardware at the top of the mast.
>
> As I suspected, the failure occurred near the top of the mast.  The
> forestay wire itself was completely intact.  The bit of hardware attached
> to the upper end of the ware failed.  At the point of failure, it looks
> like there may be the start of a threaded portion.  The piece still
> attached at the top of the mast looks like it?s shaped to accept a
> cylindrical (sp ?) piece of hardware.  I?m at a loss to recall the bits of
> gear that allowed this connection to be made.
>
> I?ll try to attach a picture of the pieces I found.
>
> I hope to visit a rigger in the next day or two in the hopes that a
> professional will be able to figure this out.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Aug 15 19:59:23 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:59:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Ric:
My centre board was difficult to lift as well until I took the cap off and discovered that all of the blocks were seized up. I think some earlier owner used a sealant that squeezed into the housing and fouled up the blocks. New blocks made a world of difference.

Graham

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: August 15, 2017 9:32 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length

Graham
I stuck with the original design too. I can tell you that the system I have is too difficult for my wife to lift. In fact its not so easy for me either. 
I know that its running  free and clear, but its still a heavy lift, especially the last 6 inches.  The diamond Board is most likely a solution to that issue; another upgrade that General Boats might offer someday. 
I agree that a long line at the end of the CB is not a good solution. If the CB cap was not such a big deal to remove and replace, I would experiment, but for now, as with other minor annoyances, I sail the boat as much as possible and enjoy it immensely. 
ric 
sv Dadventure 



> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 
> 
> The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
> Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
> thanks
> ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
>> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
>> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>> 
>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his 
>> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with 
>> one block if you choose to go this route.
>> 
>> 
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>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>> 
>> Richard Beytagh
>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
>> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the 
>>> hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board 
>>> from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is 
>>> a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>> Ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>>> when
>>> you
>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just 
>>>> a suggestion
>>>> 
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>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jay:
>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at 
>>>>> least
>>> 18-20? of
>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>> length.
>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>> through
>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading 
>>>>> to
>>> the
>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that 
>>>>> is
>>> free.
>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>>> same
>>> for
>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>>> board. I
>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured 
>>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From bridges.brooks at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 22:05:30 2017
From: bridges.brooks at gmail.com (thebooker)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:05:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Price Reduction: Cambridge MD Very nice,
	well equipped Rhodes 22
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1986, Refurbished 2006. 

http://easternshore.craigslist.org/boa/6263871041.html?lang=en&cc=us



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From imbayliss at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 16 10:12:05 2017
From: imbayliss at yahoo.com (Craig Bayliss)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 07:12:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes For Sale in Delaware
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed Aug 16 10:59:41 2017
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:59:41 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Price Reduction: Cambridge MD Very nice,
 well equipped Rhodes 22
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Nice price on a great looking boat!  Come on any lurkers looking for a great boat, now is your chance! - rob



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1986, Refurbished 2006. 

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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Wed Aug 16 12:36:47 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:36:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Hi Graham
My blocks were not new but they were in good condition and free wheelin'
Next time I'm out I'll have a look with a mask. It was never easy to retract the CB - always a tug. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Ric:
> My centre board was difficult to lift as well until I took the cap off and discovered that all of the blocks were seized up. I think some earlier owner used a sealant that squeezed into the housing and fouled up the blocks. New blocks made a world of difference.
> 
> Graham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
> Sent: August 15, 2017 9:32 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> Graham
> I stuck with the original design too. I can tell you that the system I have is too difficult for my wife to lift. In fact its not so easy for me either. 
> I know that its running  free and clear, but its still a heavy lift, especially the last 6 inches.  The diamond Board is most likely a solution to that issue; another upgrade that General Boats might offer someday. 
> I agree that a long line at the end of the CB is not a good solution. If the CB cap was not such a big deal to remove and replace, I would experiment, but for now, as with other minor annoyances, I sail the boat as much as possible and enjoy it immensely. 
> ric 
> sv Dadventure 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 
>> 
>> The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.
>> 
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
>> Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>> 
>> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
>> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
>> thanks
>> ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
>>> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
>>> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>>> 
>>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in his 
>>> infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get away with 
>>> one block if you choose to go this route.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
>>> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>>>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>>>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced the 
>>>> hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the board 
>>>> from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>>>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>>>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>>>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and is 
>>>> a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>>>> when
>>>> you
>>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it length...just 
>>>>> a suggestion
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>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through at 
>>>>>> least
>>>> 18-20? of
>>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>>> length.
>>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>>> through
>>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube leading 
>>>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line that 
>>>>>> is
>>>> free.
>>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>>>> same
>>>> for
>>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>>>> board. I
>>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have measured 
>>>>>> everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>>>> c- 516-965-3164
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Wed Aug 16 12:59:42 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:59:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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Ric:
 Might the centerboard be rubbing against the housing? My wife can easily lift my board now.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ric Stott
Sent: August 16, 2017 12:37 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length

Hi Graham
My blocks were not new but they were in good condition and free wheelin'
Next time I'm out I'll have a look with a mask. It was never easy to retract the CB - always a tug. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Ric:
> My centre board was difficult to lift as well until I took the cap off and discovered that all of the blocks were seized up. I think some earlier owner used a sealant that squeezed into the housing and fouled up the blocks. New blocks made a world of difference.
> 
> Graham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Stott
> Sent: August 15, 2017 9:32 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> Graham
> I stuck with the original design too. I can tell you that the system I have is too difficult for my wife to lift. In fact its not so easy for me either. 
> I know that its running  free and clear, but its still a heavy lift, especially the last 6 inches.  The diamond Board is most likely a solution to that issue; another upgrade that General Boats might offer someday. 
> I agree that a long line at the end of the CB is not a good solution. If the CB cap was not such a big deal to remove and replace, I would experiment, but for now, as with other minor annoyances, I sail the boat as much as possible and enjoy it immensely. 
> ric
> sv Dadventure
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 
>> 
>> The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.
>> 
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Stott
>> Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>> 
>> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
>> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
>> thanks
>> ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
>>> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
>>> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>>> 
>>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in 
>>> his infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get 
>>> away with one block if you choose to go this route.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>> 
>>> Richard Beytagh
>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
>>> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>>>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>>>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced 
>>>> the hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the 
>>>> board from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>>>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>>>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>>>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and 
>>>> is a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>>>> when
>>>> you
>>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it 
>>>>> length...just a suggestion
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>>>>>> On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through 
>>>>>> at least
>>>> 18-20? of
>>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>>> length.
>>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>>> through
>>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube 
>>>>>> leading to
>>>> the
>>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line 
>>>>>> that is
>>>> free.
>>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>>>> same
>>>> for
>>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>>>> board. I
>>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have 
>>>>>> measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
>>>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> archives
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>>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ 
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>>>>> archives
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> o- 631-283-1777
>> c- 516-965-3164
>> 
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Wed Aug 16 13:12:46 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:12:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
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HI Graham
No - the board swings freely in the trunk. 
I keep the boat on a shallow mooring.
At extreme low tide, the keel rests on the bottom and I often back to boat up to the beach so my wife can get on without wading through that 'icky seaweed?.
Once in awhile, a small stone will jamb between the trunk and the CB, so I have to go under the boat and free it.
When I dislodge the stone, the board swings down to it fully deployed position without any problem - unless I?m in the way. 
I replaced the line with Dyneema, which may be to stiff for those little blocks, or there may be something else caught in the blocks. 
I?ll let you know next week 
Ric 
sv Dadventure 
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Ric:
> Might the centerboard be rubbing against the housing? My wife can easily lift my board now.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ric Stott
> Sent: August 16, 2017 12:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> Hi Graham
> My blocks were not new but they were in good condition and free wheelin'
> Next time I'm out I'll have a look with a mask. It was never easy to retract the CB - always a tug. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Ric:
>> My centre board was difficult to lift as well until I took the cap off and discovered that all of the blocks were seized up. I think some earlier owner used a sealant that squeezed into the housing and fouled up the blocks. New blocks made a world of difference.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Stott
>> Sent: August 15, 2017 9:32 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>> 
>> Graham
>> I stuck with the original design too. I can tell you that the system I have is too difficult for my wife to lift. In fact its not so easy for me either. 
>> I know that its running  free and clear, but its still a heavy lift, especially the last 6 inches.  The diamond Board is most likely a solution to that issue; another upgrade that General Boats might offer someday. 
>> I agree that a long line at the end of the CB is not a good solution. If the CB cap was not such a big deal to remove and replace, I would experiment, but for now, as with other minor annoyances, I sail the boat as much as possible and enjoy it immensely. 
>> ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 
>>> 
>>> The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Richard Stott
>>> Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>> 
>>> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
>>> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
>>> thanks
>>> ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> Hampton Bays
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
>>>> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
>>>> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>>>> 
>>>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in 
>>>> his infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get 
>>>> away with one block if you choose to go this route.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
>>>> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>>>>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>>>>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced 
>>>>> the hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the 
>>>>> board from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>>>>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>>>>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>>>>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and 
>>>>> is a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>>>>> when
>>>>> you
>>>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it 
>>>>>> length...just a suggestion
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>>>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through 
>>>>>>> at least
>>>>> 18-20? of
>>>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>>>> length.
>>>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>>>> through
>>>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube 
>>>>>>> leading to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line 
>>>>>>> that is
>>>>> free.
>>>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>>>>> same
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>>>>> board. I
>>>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have 
>>>>>>> measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> o- 631-283-1777
>>> c- 516-965-3164
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> o- 631-283-1777
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From marlangreen at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 10:49:32 2017
From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 10:49:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mainsail Article
Message-ID: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>

I posted this on the Facebook page and folks asked where to find the
article. Thought I'd add it here too.

 Here is the URL for the article:


3 REASONS (+1) WHY I HATE THE MAINSAIL FURLERACCESSORIES
<http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/accessorie>, BOATANDBOATS SAIL
<http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/boatandboats-sail> / BY MAGAZINE
<http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/author/silvia>/ OCT 24, 2016

http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/mainsail-furler-disadvantages.html

And I'm attaching a PDF of the article.

Marlan

s/v Nautisaurus
Rhode River
Chesapeake Bay
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From xcropduster at live.com  Wed Aug 16 15:00:07 2017
From: xcropduster at live.com (Jim Terry)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:00:07 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Texas
Message-ID: <CY4PR22MB01843CB2F8191EED12EB7266D4820@CY4PR22MB0184.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

A 1988 Rhodes is listed for sale on sailing texas site

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 15:27:46 2017
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 15:27:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mainsail Article
In-Reply-To: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRqo9Hk1c6-WBMJ7fgzFrcEDbUUytU5oOk62OW=Luc6yDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Marlan,
To each his own.
That is why there are so many different brands of almost everything.

Cary
S/V Whisper

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:49 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com <
marlangreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I posted this on the Facebook page and folks asked where to find the
> article. Thought I'd add it here too.
>
>  Here is the URL for the article:
>
>
> 3 REASONS (+1) WHY I HATE THE MAINSAIL FURLERACCESSORIES
> <http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/accessorie>, BOATANDBOATS SAIL
> <http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/boatandboats-sail> / BY MAGAZINE
> <http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/author/silvia>/ OCT 24, 2016
>
> http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/mainsail-furler-disadvantages.html
>
> And I'm attaching a PDF of the article.
>
> Marlan
>
> s/v Nautisaurus
> Rhode River
> Chesapeake Bay
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 16 19:18:44 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:18:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mainsail Article
In-Reply-To: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1502925524307-53663.post@n5.nabble.com>

Since I found the Rhodes 22 through the online archive while researching
other boats, I figured I'd post this response for future surfers.   

That's why I kept the Bucc (that and the fact its worth more if I take a
chainsaw to it and sell the organs).   If I want to go fast and look at
beautiful sail shape, I still can.   The Rhodes-22 will sort of plane under
perfect conditions though.  It points well if you fly a full jib or sheet it
inboard when reefed. 
The LWL does provides a hull speed better then most 22's.   So its
performance is still respectable for a 'mini furniture boat'.   

If I want to go sailing after work I don't care how fast I go since I'm the
only sailboat in view.  I am alone, tired, and don't want to spend half my
time rolling sails afterword.  The Rhodes 22 with in mast furling will be
under sail 10 minutes after I turn off the car.   If you are worried about
sailshape you surely aren't flaking your precious sail into lazy jacks and
ruining it with folds, so you have to drop and roll your sails every time.   

If I want to spend a few hours without concern of swimming and I'm dumping
wind in the gusts anyway, the lack of a roach and pocket is an advantage.   
The traveler system and responsive handling make short tacking easy for one
person.   Half the boats I see are using only one sail, and they aren't
catboats.  They are just sacrificing performance and handling in order to
approximate the convenience of a Rhodes 22.   

The Rhodes-22 is very good at what it does, but it can't do everything.  
I'm sure if I was into long distance cruising or racing with a crew the IMF
would be a negative.   For convenient single handed slip launched daysailing
and especially after work sails it cannot be beat.  For flexible sailplan in
variable winds without a cabin full of sailbags, it has advantage.    In my
case that is 95% of my hours under sail.    For the other 5%, the pocket
cruiser interior and comfortable cockpit for several outweigh the
disadvantage of sail shape.

Alex.  2002 R-22 "Lark" and 1976 Buccaneer 18 "Hydrophilic".   



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S/V Lark
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From marlangreen at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 09:20:15 2017
From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:20:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mainsail Article
In-Reply-To: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEOL17cMjansvGj=WoaZ+9rfHg-7rWt_bgNoVCMmGtpvG72adQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEOL17cHh8zcQB3Vvpeq2_cmqoh8UMEp5W=YjzobpTiffMkrzg@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to mention that I was just sharing the article. I don't agree with
it. I just thought it was interesting.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:49 AM, marlangreen at gmail.com <
marlangreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I posted this on the Facebook page and folks asked where to find the
> article. Thought I'd add it here too.
>
>  Here is the URL for the article:
>
>
> 3 REASONS (+1) WHY I HATE THE MAINSAIL FURLERACCESSORIES
> <http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/accessorie>, BOATANDBOATS SAIL
> <http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/boatandboats-sail> / BY MAGAZINE
> <http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/author/silvia>/ OCT 24, 2016
>
> http://www.boatandboats.com/magazine/mainsail-furler-disadvantages.html
>
> And I'm attaching a PDF of the article.
>
> Marlan
>
> s/v Nautisaurus
> Rhode River
> Chesapeake Bay
>

From wmccready at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 17 10:50:27 2017
From: wmccready at hotmail.com (Mac McCready)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 07:50:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lower Price on Rhodes 22
Message-ID: <1502981427179-53697.post@n5.nabble.com>

Decided to reduce price.   Check out link below.


http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/6267973786.html



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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 17:18:58 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:18:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain--SAD
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWeTYy9Hs7YK_mRukzN_m6GLxYMjrpB1zdPDr48LUUodA@mail.gmail.com>

Just a quick note to let people know how sad it is here in Barcelona.  So
many people dead and injured.  It happened 2 blocks from here.  Everything
is quiet and most of the clubs are closed in a neighborhood that usually is
a bit wild into the wee hours of the morning.  My heart goes out to the
Spanish people.

Chris Geankoplis

From rodellner at mac.com  Thu Aug 17 20:44:50 2017
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:44:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain--SAD
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWeTYy9Hs7YK_mRukzN_m6GLxYMjrpB1zdPDr48LUUodA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWeTYy9Hs7YK_mRukzN_m6GLxYMjrpB1zdPDr48LUUodA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39404D8E-A4EC-4EA6-ACF9-2F5DB8A2EAC6@mac.com>

Our niece was just there on. Summer abroad program for Texas a and m.   She got home 2 days ago.    Blessed

Rod & Mary
S/v Toy Blew
St Croix river/WI

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Just a quick note to let people know how sad it is here in Barcelona.  So
> many people dead and injured.  It happened 2 blocks from here.  Everything
> is quiet and most of the clubs are closed in a neighborhood that usually is
> a bit wild into the wee hours of the morning.  My heart goes out to the
> Spanish people.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu Aug 17 22:40:45 2017
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 22:40:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9aaCig-u86NQOT1dTdyO6N2eC7+xK4WzO23apXeBiRydA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1B8E1FF4-1171-4843-A191-DEED906CB272@gmail.com>
 <20170814161200.Horde.ZZE2vADjmjUc0srJ_06DMc7@oberon.lunarpages.com>
 <CALbDJ9aaCig-u86NQOT1dTdyO6N2eC7+xK4WzO23apXeBiRydA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DDA81E1F-81C1-439C-BA80-9702D349243C@sunnybeeches.com>

So, the old forestay was broken and I obviously needed a new one.  I looked into custom rigging web pages at West Marine and Defender, and even Dwyer.  Nothing they showed seemed to really line up with the pieces I had.  Somehow I had a gut feeling that I?d be better off dealing with an independent rigging shop.  After a quick internet search I happened on Sound Rigging Services in Essex, CT (https://www.soundrigging.com), and I decided to give them a try.

For those unfamiliar with the geography of southern New England, ?Sound? is a reference to Long Island Sound, the body of water between Connecticut and Long Island, NY.

I called ahead, which turned out to be a good idea as I was told that at this time of year, people are mostly working on the road.  However, I was able to make an appointment with Chuck, the owner, for the following morning.

I arrived, showed Chuck what I had, and we went out to the work area.  Chuck has a lot of inventory, and he spent a lot of time looking through bins trying to find the right bits of hardware to match what had been at the top of the mast.  The major issue was that the U shaped piece that holds the barrel of the T bolt is longer than is common for contemporary fittings.  Without having the mast, he couldn?t be sure that a shorter U shaped piece would work.  In the end, he resorted to scrounging through cardboard boxes of oddball pieces to find what he need to allow me to continue to use the original U shaped piece that we knew would work. 

Once I got back to the boat and was able able to take a closer look at the connection of the forestay to the top of the mast, I?m pretty sure that a somewhat shorter U shaped piece would work, but I couldn?t say exactly how short.

Anyway, I enjoyed the time I spent hanging around in the shop with Chuck.  He told some interesting stories while he was doing this and that.  I found the final bill to be quite reasonable.  

Having a new forestay, I was left with the task of having to reassemble the CDI furling apparatus.  I was a bit nervous about this in part because it?s never been clear to me how it really works.  The mystery was, what keeps the parts that spin attached to the piece at the bottom that doesn?t spin.  While putting everything back together it finally occurred to me that it?s just gravity.  Hopefully, that will continue to work as it has.

As I tend to do with my boat projects, I?ve made a YouTube video about this little adventure for anyone interested: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbKIYYFU73s

Thanks to all who provided insight into my issues with the forestay.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 05:43:54 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 05:43:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain--SAD
In-Reply-To: <39404D8E-A4EC-4EA6-ACF9-2F5DB8A2EAC6@mac.com>
References: <CADNTwiWeTYy9Hs7YK_mRukzN_m6GLxYMjrpB1zdPDr48LUUodA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiV2-tVyKiQwJcbTd_kP7uGdjU5nL0bM9a+smwNzfetAbg@mail.gmail.com>

So glad she left when she did.  I think when something like this happens it
is important not to behave as the terrorists wish.  They want us to be
afraid, they want us to change our behavior and hunker down, they want us
to react aggressively and give up our freedoms for "safety".  I won't do
it.  I am leaving for a walk down the pedestrian street (part that was
attacked is still closed).  I will go to some shops near by and buy
something, I will take public transportation and my wife is joining me here
in Barcelona in a few days.  Don't let the bastards win.

Chris Geankoplis

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:

> Our niece was just there on. Summer abroad program for Texas a and m.
>  She got home 2 days ago.    Blessed
>
> Rod & Mary
> S/v Toy Blew
> St Croix river/WI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Just a quick note to let people know how sad it is here in Barcelona.  So
> > many people dead and injured.  It happened 2 blocks from here.
> Everything
> > is quiet and most of the clubs are closed in a neighborhood that usually
> is
> > a bit wild into the wee hours of the morning.  My heart goes out to the
> > Spanish people.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > __________________________________________________
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From boendert at me.com  Fri Aug 18 08:22:34 2017
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 08:22:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain--SAD
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiV2-tVyKiQwJcbTd_kP7uGdjU5nL0bM9a+smwNzfetAbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWeTYy9Hs7YK_mRukzN_m6GLxYMjrpB1zdPDr48LUUodA@mail.gmail.com>
 <39404D8E-A4EC-4EA6-ACF9-2F5DB8A2EAC6@mac.com>
 <CADNTwiV2-tVyKiQwJcbTd_kP7uGdjU5nL0bM9a+smwNzfetAbg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3222A4A-FC3F-40D9-9273-139A9325A066@me.com>

Agree Chris. Let freedom ring! I'll be traveling Europe with my family next summer. We will not let them shape our decisions. 

Stay strong. 

Cheers,
Ted

S/V AIRPOWER 
1991/2013 R22
Jacksonville, FL



> On Aug 18, 2017, at 5:43 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So glad she left when she did.  I think when something like this happens it
> is important not to behave as the terrorists wish.  They want us to be
> afraid, they want us to change our behavior and hunker down, they want us
> to react aggressively and give up our freedoms for "safety".  I won't do
> it.  I am leaving for a walk down the pedestrian street (part that was
> attacked is still closed).  I will go to some shops near by and buy
> something, I will take public transportation and my wife is joining me here
> in Barcelona in a few days.  Don't let the bastards win.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our niece was just there on. Summer abroad program for Texas a and m.
>> She got home 2 days ago.    Blessed
>> 
>> Rod & Mary
>> S/v Toy Blew
>> St Croix river/WI
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a quick note to let people know how sad it is here in Barcelona.  So
>>> many people dead and injured.  It happened 2 blocks from here.
>> Everything
>>> is quiet and most of the clubs are closed in a neighborhood that usually
>> is
>>> a bit wild into the wee hours of the morning.  My heart goes out to the
>>> Spanish people.
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 10:01:56 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:01:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain--SAD
In-Reply-To: <C3222A4A-FC3F-40D9-9273-139A9325A066@me.com>
References: <CADNTwiWeTYy9Hs7YK_mRukzN_m6GLxYMjrpB1zdPDr48LUUodA@mail.gmail.com>
 <39404D8E-A4EC-4EA6-ACF9-2F5DB8A2EAC6@mac.com>
 <CADNTwiV2-tVyKiQwJcbTd_kP7uGdjU5nL0bM9a+smwNzfetAbg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiVVOoWXvsRBRpx9WsA5=N6pfXkyzb3FbvmKB8XfgAAUqQ@mail.gmail.com>

You too Ted.

Chris G

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote:

> Agree Chris. Let freedom ring! I'll be traveling Europe with my family
> next summer. We will not let them shape our decisions.
>
> Stay strong.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> S/V AIRPOWER
> 1991/2013 R22
> Jacksonville, FL
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2017, at 5:43 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > So glad she left when she did.  I think when something like this happens
> it
> > is important not to behave as the terrorists wish.  They want us to be
> > afraid, they want us to change our behavior and hunker down, they want us
> > to react aggressively and give up our freedoms for "safety".  I won't do
> > it.  I am leaving for a walk down the pedestrian street (part that was
> > attacked is still closed).  I will go to some shops near by and buy
> > something, I will take public transportation and my wife is joining me
> here
> > in Barcelona in a few days.  Don't let the bastards win.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our niece was just there on. Summer abroad program for Texas a and m.
> >> She got home 2 days ago.    Blessed
> >>
> >> Rod & Mary
> >> S/v Toy Blew
> >> St Croix river/WI
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just a quick note to let people know how sad it is here in Barcelona.
> So
> >>> many people dead and injured.  It happened 2 blocks from here.
> >> Everything
> >>> is quiet and most of the clubs are closed in a neighborhood that
> usually
> >> is
> >>> a bit wild into the wee hours of the morning.  My heart goes out to the
> >>> Spanish people.
> >>>
> >>> Chris Geankoplis
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
> >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/
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> >>
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From lsr3 at nyu.edu  Fri Aug 18 22:30:16 2017
From: lsr3 at nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 19:30:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] trailer
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9bD1TdE0s5LV3Ns2vH4Y6-H55zoVpwbEguA9UFDs6i7Ew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1978064230.2089183.1502217913891@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1503109816853-53704.post@n5.nabble.com>

Richard,

Sorry for responding so late. I wanted to thank you for your offer.  If
someone on da list really wants my boat and you are available, maybe it
could work out.

Im sailing Miracles as much as I can and still  listing her around the NYC
area.  Unfortunately moving her up the  Hudson with me will not be cost
effective.  I looked into some of the marinas near Troy NY and  they are not
sailboat friendly , ie: fixed bridges,  some yards demand u have a trailer.

Thanks again for you offer.  I realize I would have to pay you for the
service but its a very nice gesture.
Sail Safe
Lou



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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Sun Aug 20 21:48:32 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:48:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] West to East boat haul
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9YaUbj8_ybd_VA9EuJ9tMy0oh4Ks=4L9xF==6wmgrsP-A@mail.gmail.com>

I am hauling a Rhodes 22 from Edenton NC to Washington in a couple of
weeks. I am coming back with an empty trailer so if anyone is looking for a
West to East coast haul please get in touch.

Cheers


~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

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From stan at rhodes22.com  Sun Aug 20 23:28:22 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 23:28:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] West to East boat haul
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9YaUbj8_ybd_VA9EuJ9tMy0oh4Ks=4L9xF==6wmgrsP-A@mail.gmail.com>
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R.,  there is a like new 2012 for sale in WA without a trailer so has 
not sold yet.  I would buy it for 20 but they are asking 30 plus I would 
need an investor.   Work it out.

ss

On 8/20/17 9:48 PM, Richard Beytagh wrote:
> I am hauling a Rhodes 22 from Edenton NC to Washington in a couple of
> weeks. I am coming back with an empty trailer so if anyone is looking for a
> West to East coast haul please get in touch.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>
> Richard Beytagh
> Phone: 828 337 0180
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 04:56:35 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:56:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing in Spain-Its here!
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUz+vrcHOt5v5s6xXxYeJY7jRHDAARkwLoCRuoobHoF5g@mail.gmail.com>

Check the attachment, it shows the location of the transport ship.  Headed
up the mountain that overlooks the harbor to see if I can see the ship.
Unfortunately it did not dock right below the cliffs so not sure what the
view will be.

chris

https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9574107

From bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug 21 12:40:34 2017
From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net (Rhodes22)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:40:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New owner catching up
In-Reply-To: <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>

"How do I scull the Rhodes?"  Bring the rudder up to about parallel to the boat and move it back and forth with the tiller.  Helps to also have an oar with you if you have crew.  The oar helps with direction and adds to forward motion.  

We had a crappy engine at one point and the winds were not favorable for us to sail to our slip, so the rudder and oar did the trick on more than one occasion. 

Bob in Stuart
S/V "NoKaOi 3"
2010 R22 (Our 2nd R22 - 25 year R22 owners)

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:33 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Congratulations.   I hope you guys have a lot of fun.   Outboards suck, my
> next one will be electric.  
> 
> Madison is nice in the summer, but surviving the Texas heat is an epic feat
> of seamanship.       I love reports of people using their boat, even if I
> don't make it to half the places.   Any pictures?    Was the foiler that was
> killed by the DNR boat on your Wisconsin lake?   
> 
> I spent years mostly singlehanding a 2 man Buccaneer 18 (The Rod
> Macalpine-Downie and Dick Gibbs design, not the heavy slow bathtub with the
> same name).  That boat has been described as "Fast boat, initially very
> tender but firms up just before it capsizes" so I was kind of jumpy when I
> came to the Rhodes-22.   It took me a while not to ease the sheet every time
> the rubrail got wet and realize she just doesn't care if you wash the decks
> on occasion.    I personally limit the main to only one '2' visible and
> start with half a jib when the wind is in the 20's or gusting a lot.  I also
> reef the main quickly if the weather might be building, since it seems much
> harder to reef  in a heavy wind.     I'll play with the jib but not trust
> more main until I'm really sure.   The vertical batten mainsail is a bit
> fuller, so a tad more caution helps vs the batten-less sail that lacks a
> roach.
> 
> How do you scull the Rhodes?   
> 
> Alex Cole
> Lark, 2002 model partially recycled in 2015. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 09:46:53 2017
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:46:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>

Good morning, Rhodes list,

I know this topic must have been covered amply before, but does anyone have any thoughts about whether an electric motor, maybe a trolling motor or something slightly more powerful, would be sufficient to move a Rhodes?  Basically I?d just like something that would get me in and out of the slip, and perhaps slowly move me back to the marina should the wind die.  Any recommendations for specific ones?

This is prompted by my formerly trusty Tohatsu?s failure to start at all this weekend, as we ventured down to the lake to watch the eclipse (it was amazing, even viewed from the cockpit of the boat in its slip).

Also, I tried going to the website to see if I could search the archives before making this inquiry, but I don?t see how to do that.  If there?s a good way, I?d appreciate some instruction.

Thanks!

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess
Lake Keowee, SC



From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Tue Aug 22 09:59:13 2017
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:59:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BN6PR18MB0946785A67D86FAD2501637ED1840@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

I helped Stan establish a relationship with Torqeedo and he has recently provided two types of electric motor installations, one is a pod built into the bottom of the boat and the other is an outboard with controls and batteries.  

Pod drive:
http://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/pod-drives

Outboard:
http://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/cruise



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From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Frank Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:47 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives

Good morning, Rhodes list,

I know this topic must have been covered amply before, but does anyone have any thoughts about whether an electric motor, maybe a trolling motor or something slightly more powerful, would be sufficient to move a Rhodes?  Basically I?d just like something that would get me in and out of the slip, and perhaps slowly move me back to the marina should the wind die.  Any recommendations for specific ones?

This is prompted by my formerly trusty Tohatsu?s failure to start at all this weekend, as we ventured down to the lake to watch the eclipse (it was amazing, even viewed from the cockpit of the boat in its slip).

Also, I tried going to the website to see if I could search the archives before making this inquiry, but I don?t see how to do that.  If there?s a good way, I?d appreciate some instruction.

Thanks!

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess
Lake Keowee, SC


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From jadoucet at snet.net  Tue Aug 22 11:12:32 2017
From: jadoucet at snet.net (Joseph Doucet)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:12:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR18MB0946785A67D86FAD2501637ED1840@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
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 <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <489466235.2831853.1503414752522@mail.yahoo.com>

The Torqeedo outboard is a nice complete solution .? Before this became available we installed a Minnkota long shaft , 101 lb thrust trolling motor with three 12V? 40 Amp-hr Lithium ion batteries.? Either solution gives you a motor that always starts, & runs well at low to moderate speeds.? When we still had the 175 genny, we motor sailled with the electric helping to tack over the large sail.

The 

Minn Kota Riptide T/112 (112 Lbs. Thrust, 52" Shaft
sells for $900 on the MinnKota site. The long shaft torqeedo Travel 1003 is about the same size motor with about the same sized battery that we have ( 530 W-hr.) for about the same price when you add in the cost of the batteries and chargers.
The only question that I have is the shaft lengths.
Minn Kota claims 53" while Torqeedo claims 75 cm which is about 30", but maybe they are measured from different points?

?Joseph A. Doucet 70 Pumping Station rd Ridgefield, Ct 06877 203-438-4346 Mobile: 203-512-5629 jadoucet at snet.net

      From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
 To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
Cc: "Mike.Shafar at torqeedo.com" <Mike.Shafar at torqeedo.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
   
I helped Stan establish a relationship with Torqeedo and he has recently provided two types of electric motor installations, one is a pod built into the bottom of the boat and the other is an outboard with controls and batteries.? 

Pod drive:
http://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/pod-drives

Outboard:
http://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/cruise



Please note our new office address and phone number

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700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]



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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:47 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives

Good morning, Rhodes list,

I know this topic must have been covered amply before, but does anyone have any thoughts about whether an electric motor, maybe a trolling motor or something slightly more powerful, would be sufficient to move a Rhodes?? Basically I?d just like something that would get me in and out of the slip, and perhaps slowly move me back to the marina should the wind die.? Any recommendations for specific ones?

This is prompted by my formerly trusty Tohatsu?s failure to start at all this weekend, as we ventured down to the lake to watch the eclipse (it was amazing, even viewed from the cockpit of the boat in its slip).

Also, I tried going to the website to see if I could search the archives before making this inquiry, but I don?t see how to do that.? If there?s a good way, I?d appreciate some instruction.

Thanks!

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess
Lake Keowee, SC


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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Tue Aug 22 11:52:39 2017
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:52:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Searching the archives Re:  Electric motors;
 and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50c63b73-a3e7-1f90-fbbe-47dcda08f5ee@atlanticbb.net>

Hi Frank, I post some variation of this post on searching the archives 
fairly often as it is not intuitive.

Here are some ways that I've had luck searching for topics in the
archives of the Rhodes list.

The Rhodes list archives are on the Rhodes Owners site with a link from
here:
http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list

The actual archive list lives here:
http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/

You can search the archives using Google by entering your search terms
and specifying the site - for example:
site:rhodes22.org "wiring diagram"

This isn't as reliable as it used to be. I don't know if it's a change
in Google's search algorithm or a change in our storage (which has
happened several times as different people have become caretaker of the
email list and website - thank you to Mike and John, our most recent
caretakers.)

Nabble is a service that makes a web presentation of email lists.
Someone added the R22 list to it years ago so there is a good archive
there as well. You can use the search box on the Nabble page
(http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/) ?to search the archives as
well and at this point, it seems to work better than the Google search
but they will pull different results at times.

Hope this helps.

Mary Lou
ex R22
now Rosborough RF-246 ?Tara








On 8/22/2017 9:46 AM, Frank Goldsmith wrote:
> Good morning, Rhodes list,
>
> I know this topic must have been covered amply before, but does anyone have any thoughts about whether an electric motor, maybe a trolling motor or something slightly more powerful, would be sufficient to move a Rhodes?  Basically I?d just like something that would get me in and out of the slip, and perhaps slowly move me back to the marina should the wind die.  Any recommendations for specific ones?
>
> This is prompted by my formerly trusty Tohatsu?s failure to start at all this weekend, as we ventured down to the lake to watch the eclipse (it was amazing, even viewed from the cockpit of the boat in its slip).
>
> Also, I tried going to the website to see if I could search the archives before making this inquiry, but I don?t see how to do that.  If there?s a good way, I?d appreciate some instruction.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 11:56:11 2017
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:56:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Searching the archives Re:  Electric motors;
 and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <50c63b73-a3e7-1f90-fbbe-47dcda08f5ee@atlanticbb.net>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
 <50c63b73-a3e7-1f90-fbbe-47dcda08f5ee@atlanticbb.net>
Message-ID: <F8BE0387-333C-475F-A630-2250332EDE6E@gmail.com>

Mary Lou,

Thanks very much for those links ? I?ll check them out.  It?s great that you remain on the list despite having sold your Rhodes.  It certainly helps to have some institutional memory.

And thanks to those who have responded thus far to my inquiry about electric motors.  I?m hoping to find some solution that doesn?t break the bank, and that also works with the clever motor hoist that Stan designed for the Rhodes.  

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess
Lake Keowee, SC

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Frank, I post some variation of this post on searching the archives fairly often as it is not intuitive.
> 
> Here are some ways that I've had luck searching for topics in the
> archives of the Rhodes list.
> 
> The Rhodes list archives are on the Rhodes Owners site with a link from
> here:
> http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> The actual archive list lives here:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/
> 
> You can search the archives using Google by entering your search terms
> and specifying the site - for example:
> site:rhodes22.org "wiring diagram"
> 
> This isn't as reliable as it used to be. I don't know if it's a change
> in Google's search algorithm or a change in our storage (which has
> happened several times as different people have become caretaker of the
> email list and website - thank you to Mike and John, our most recent
> caretakers.)
> 
> Nabble is a service that makes a web presentation of email lists.
> Someone added the R22 list to it years ago so there is a good archive
> there as well. You can use the search box on the Nabble page
> (http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/)  to search the archives as
> well and at this point, it seems to work better than the Google search
> but they will pull different results at times.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Mary Lou
> ex R22
> now Rosborough RF-246  Tara
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/22/2017 9:46 AM, Frank Goldsmith wrote:
>> Good morning, Rhodes list,
>> 
>> I know this topic must have been covered amply before, but does anyone have any thoughts about whether an electric motor, maybe a trolling motor or something slightly more powerful, would be sufficient to move a Rhodes?  Basically I?d just like something that would get me in and out of the slip, and perhaps slowly move me back to the marina should the wind die.  Any recommendations for specific ones?
>> 
>> This is prompted by my formerly trusty Tohatsu?s failure to start at all this weekend, as we ventured down to the lake to watch the eclipse (it was amazing, even viewed from the cockpit of the boat in its slip).
>> 
>> Also, I tried going to the website to see if I could search the archives before making this inquiry, but I don?t see how to do that.  If there?s a good way, I?d appreciate some instruction.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Frank Goldsmith
>> S/V Mary Bess
>> Lake Keowee, SC
>> 
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
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From jose.faraldo at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 12:28:18 2017
From: jose.faraldo at gmail.com (jose)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:28:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR18MB0946785A67D86FAD2501637ED1840@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
 <BN6PR18MB0946785A67D86FAD2501637ED1840@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
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Frank, 

I recently replaced an old and very problematic Yamaha 9.9HP with a
Torqueedo Cruise 4.0 RL with two Power 26-104 batteries installed. It was
pricey but thus far it's worked great, at least in relatively good
conditions. I can't comment on the pod drive or the less powerful options,
though. 

General Boats did the purchasing and installation. Thanks to Chris Cowie, I
imagine, they have a significant price discount, particularly on the
batteries, and the outboard. The set up is very convenient; the charging of
the batteries, the remote control, etc. The only let down was the
tiller-motor linkage system, which can't be used - at least the design I had
in place for my Yamaha. This owes to the fact that the vertical axis of
rotation of the Torqueedo is much closer to the stern than that of normal
outboards. So while one can physically link tiller and motor, that linkage
severely limits the range of motion of the tiller. In summary, one needs to
to lock the motor in the straight position. Not really a 'solution', but not
an critical problem either. 

Best regards

Jos?
S/V Steady State
Rose Haven, MD



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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Tue Aug 22 12:31:09 2017
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:31:09 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
In-Reply-To: <1503419298806-53717.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1502415063614-53610.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1502750006833-53640.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <ADAD22FB-6677-4DCD-A0BA-F05E8060F3D0@bellsouth.net>
 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
 <BN6PR18MB0946785A67D86FAD2501637ED1840@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
 <1503419298806-53717.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <BN6PR18MB094694654EB85F7B9A9E6D15D1840@BN6PR18MB0946.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Sounds like an engineering project for Stan to create a tiller motor adaptor for electric propulsion.

Please note our new office address and phone number

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From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of jose
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:28 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives

Frank, 

I recently replaced an old and very problematic Yamaha 9.9HP with a Torqueedo Cruise 4.0 RL with two Power 26-104 batteries installed. It was pricey but thus far it's worked great, at least in relatively good conditions. I can't comment on the pod drive or the less powerful options, though. 

General Boats did the purchasing and installation. Thanks to Chris Cowie, I imagine, they have a significant price discount, particularly on the batteries, and the outboard. The set up is very convenient; the charging of the batteries, the remote control, etc. The only let down was the tiller-motor linkage system, which can't be used - at least the design I had in place for my Yamaha. This owes to the fact that the vertical axis of rotation of the Torqueedo is much closer to the stern than that of normal outboards. So while one can physically link tiller and motor, that linkage severely limits the range of motion of the tiller. In summary, one needs to to lock the motor in the straight position. Not really a 'solution', but not an critical problem either. 

Best regards

Jos?
S/V Steady State
Rose Haven, MD



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From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:05:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Boat United - EPA & E15
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 23 20:12:57 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:12:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
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 <B3483B43-2F55-4901-A3FB-08EFFB7E39E1@gmail.com>
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I so wish this was an option 2 years ago, or I was closer to General Boats
international headquarters and test lab.    I assume the pod is no longer a
trailer sailor?   How are the batteries charged?    

Alex



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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Wed Aug 23 20:29:07 2017
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 00:29:07 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
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Stan
Chime in and promote your new ideas!


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On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com<mailto:Colealexander at hotmail.com>> wrote:

I so wish this was an option 2 years ago, or I was closer to General Boats
international headquarters and test lab.    I assume the pod is no longer a
trailer sailor?   How are the batteries charged?

Alex



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From stan at rhodes22.com  Wed Aug 23 22:28:03 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:28:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors; and searching the archives
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started to but so consumed trying to get 4 boats ready for show.
maybe can get back to that post on Sun.

ss


On 8/23/17 8:29 PM, Chris Cowie wrote:
> Stan
> Chime in and promote your new ideas!
>
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
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> Suite 300<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
> Washington, DC 20007<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
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>
> I so wish this was an option 2 years ago, or I was closer to General Boats
> international headquarters and test lab.    I assume the pod is no longer a
> trailer sailor?   How are the batteries charged?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
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From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 24 15:53:08 2017
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (James Nichols)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:53:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors
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Frank,
I have a Santana 22 that I use a trolling motor on for all my motoring needs.? I use two of the largest 'deep cell' batteries that Wal-Mart sells as my power source and once had to motor about 5 miles directly against a 10-15 knot wind, we had stayed at the lake side bar a little too late and the night wind had shifted from the north to the west.? With the wind along side or behind, the trolling motor can push that 2,900 lbs boat at about 4 knots.? Directly into the wind, we were struggling to get 2 knots.? It was a very long trip back to the marina for the night, but 2.5 hours of motoring and the batteries got us home.? The trolling motor that I use is just a mid-sized Minkota available at Wal-Mart as well.
Lots of people look at me weird when they see my boat with the troll motor take off from the dock, but they quickly change their mind about how much motor they actually need on their boat when they see my boat quietly and quickly glide out of the marina.? The only issue I have with my trolling motor is that I purchased one with a really long shaft.? If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the one with the shorter shaft because the longer shaft is more flexible and under full thrust, the bottom pushes itself forward to interfere with the rudder.? The long shaft also makes it a bit harder to pull it up high enough out of the water when under sail.

The Rhodes with it's off-set motor mount on the transom shouldn't have any of the problems I have with the rudder, but the short shaft trolling motor would still be all that you need because of how the mount lifts and lowers the motor.
James
71' Rhodes 22
Unnamed


On ?Wednesday?, ?August? ?23?, ?2017? ?09?:?28?:?07? ?PM? ?CDT, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:


started to but so consumed trying to get 4 boats ready for show.
maybe can get back to that post on Sun.

ss


On 8/23/17 8:29 PM, Chris Cowie wrote:
> Stan
> Chime in and promote your new ideas!
>
>
> Christopher P. Cowie? [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]? [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
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> Suite 300<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
> Washington, DC 20007<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
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> On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com<mailto:Colealexander at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I so wish this was an option 2 years ago, or I was closer to General Boats
> international headquarters and test lab.? ? I assume the pod is no longer a
> trailer sailor?? How are the batteries charged?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> -----
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 16:06:18 2017
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 16:06:18 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors
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James, that is very helpful.  Thanks so much.  I?m going to check that option out.  

Part of me just wants to keep the Tohatsu and become a better outboard mechanic!  Would that there were a class on outboards nearby . . .

Frank

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:53 PM, James Nichols via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Frank,
> I have a Santana 22 that I use a trolling motor on for all my motoring needs.  I use two of the largest 'deep cell' batteries that Wal-Mart sells as my power source and once had to motor about 5 miles directly against a 10-15 knot wind, we had stayed at the lake side bar a little too late and the night wind had shifted from the north to the west.  With the wind along side or behind, the trolling motor can push that 2,900 lbs boat at about 4 knots.  Directly into the wind, we were struggling to get 2 knots.  It was a very long trip back to the marina for the night, but 2.5 hours of motoring and the batteries got us home.  The trolling motor that I use is just a mid-sized Minkota available at Wal-Mart as well.
> Lots of people look at me weird when they see my boat with the troll motor take off from the dock, but they quickly change their mind about how much motor they actually need on their boat when they see my boat quietly and quickly glide out of the marina.  The only issue I have with my trolling motor is that I purchased one with a really long shaft.  If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the one with the shorter shaft because the longer shaft is more flexible and under full thrust, the bottom pushes itself forward to interfere with the rudder.  The long shaft also makes it a bit harder to pull it up high enough out of the water when under sail.
> 
> The Rhodes with it's off-set motor mount on the transom shouldn't have any of the problems I have with the rudder, but the short shaft trolling motor would still be all that you need because of how the mount lifts and lowers the motor.
> James
> 71' Rhodes 22
> Unnamed
> 
> 
> On ?Wednesday?, ?August? ?23?, ?2017? ?09?:?28?:?07? ?PM? ?CDT, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> started to but so consumed trying to get 4 boats ready for show.
> maybe can get back to that post on Sun.
> 
> ss
> 
> 
> On 8/23/17 8:29 PM, Chris Cowie wrote:
>> Stan
>> Chime in and promote your new ideas!
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>> 
>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>> Suite 300<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>> Washington, DC 20007<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>> 202.342.2711<tel:202.342.2711> ex.204 ? 202.342.2691<tel:202.342.2691> fax ?202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>> 
>> 
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>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com<mailto:Colealexander at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I so wish this was an option 2 years ago, or I was closer to General Boats
>> international headquarters and test lab.    I assume the pod is no longer a
>> trailer sailor?  How are the batteries charged?
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Alex Cole
>> S/V Lark
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/New-owner-catching-up-tp53610p53720.html
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From bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net  Sat Aug 26 00:28:14 2017
From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net (Rhodes22)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 00:28:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motors
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Stan uses a small trolling motor from his home out to the Sound and back.  Of course he will sail out and back if wind conditions permit.  He had me sail in, do a 180 and dock all under sail!  Impressive!  

Bob in Stuart, FL

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> James, that is very helpful.  Thanks so much.  I?m going to check that option out.  
> 
> Part of me just wants to keep the Tohatsu and become a better outboard mechanic!  Would that there were a class on outboards nearby . . .
> 
> Frank
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:53 PM, James Nichols via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Frank,
>> I have a Santana 22 that I use a trolling motor on for all my motoring needs.  I use two of the largest 'deep cell' batteries that Wal-Mart sells as my power source and once had to motor about 5 miles directly against a 10-15 knot wind, we had stayed at the lake side bar a little too late and the night wind had shifted from the north to the west.  With the wind along side or behind, the trolling motor can push that 2,900 lbs boat at about 4 knots.  Directly into the wind, we were struggling to get 2 knots.  It was a very long trip back to the marina for the night, but 2.5 hours of motoring and the batteries got us home.  The trolling motor that I use is just a mid-sized Minkota available at Wal-Mart as well.
>> Lots of people look at me weird when they see my boat with the troll motor take off from the dock, but they quickly change their mind about how much motor they actually need on their boat when they see my boat quietly and quickly glide out of the marina.  The only issue I have with my trolling motor is that I purchased one with a really long shaft.  If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the one with the shorter shaft because the longer shaft is more flexible and under full thrust, the bottom pushes itself forward to interfere with the rudder.  The long shaft also makes it a bit harder to pull it up high enough out of the water when under sail.
>> 
>> The Rhodes with it's off-set motor mount on the transom shouldn't have any of the problems I have with the rudder, but the short shaft trolling motor would still be all that you need because of how the mount lifts and lowers the motor.
>> James
>> 71' Rhodes 22
>> Unnamed
>> 
>> 
>> On ?Wednesday?, ?August? ?23?, ?2017? ?09?:?28?:?07? ?PM? ?CDT, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> started to but so consumed trying to get 4 boats ready for show.
>> maybe can get back to that post on Sun.
>> 
>> ss
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/23/17 8:29 PM, Chris Cowie wrote:
>>> Stan
>>> Chime in and promote your new ideas!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>>> 
>>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>>> Suite 300<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>>> Washington, DC 20007<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>>> 202.342.2711<tel:202.342.2711> ex.204 ? 202.342.2691<tel:202.342.2691> fax ?202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [cid:image005.png at 01CE8701.15794830]
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com<mailto:Colealexander at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I so wish this was an option 2 years ago, or I was closer to General Boats
>>> international headquarters and test lab.    I assume the pod is no longer a
>>> trailer sailor?  How are the batteries charged?
>>> 
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Alex Cole
>>> S/V Lark
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/New-owner-catching-up-tp53610p53720.html
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Sat Aug 26 09:40:54 2017
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:40:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] help
Message-ID: <a194420c-08d7-4ed1-1248-db14f9474203@rhodes22.com>

   This is from stan/general boats:

Help (physical) Wanted getting 4 boats ready for show.
Any able bodied (or half able) seaman (or seawoman) having time to kill 
in September to learn Rhodes building (or painting fences), are welcome.
Compensation (besides fun) are in form of boat parts or actual dollars 
(or I.O.U.s), free living accommodations and sailing on the unique 
waters of the Albermarle.

apply to general boats international, an equal opportunity employer

From watermusic38 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 26 09:52:41 2017
From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] help
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Stan, ?Best wishes getting ready for show....hope to see you?there...my friend whom you met on our visit not long ago has developed some acute health probs and is still in the 'what the heck is wrong with this guy" stage of diagnosis...;
best to you all ...hope to come by Annapolis....
elle

 

    On Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:41 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
 

 ? This is from stan/general boats:

Help (physical) Wanted getting 4 boats ready for show.
Any able bodied (or half able) seaman (or seawoman) having time to kill 
in September to learn Rhodes building (or painting fences), are welcome.
Compensation (besides fun) are in form of boat parts or actual dollars 
(or I.O.U.s), free living accommodations and sailing on the unique 
waters of the Albermarle.

apply to general boats international, an equal opportunity employer
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 09:56:07 2017
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:56:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] help
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I spoke to Mac Mcready yesterday and as you know he is trying to sell his
boat however, he did mention that he would make his boat available as the
in-water demo boat if it had not sold before the show. He said it does need
the inside cushions updated but it is generally in good condition.

He is a little timid about sailing in and out of the boat show, but I told
him we would take care of that.

Any thoughts?



~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>   This is from stan/general boats:
>
> Help (physical) Wanted getting 4 boats ready for show.
> Any able bodied (or half able) seaman (or seawoman) having time to kill in
> September to learn Rhodes building (or painting fences), are welcome.
> Compensation (besides fun) are in form of boat parts or actual dollars (or
> I.O.U.s), free living accommodations and sailing on the unique waters of
> the Albermarle.
>
> apply to general boats international, an equal opportunity employer
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 11:12:34 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:12:34 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] help
In-Reply-To: <a194420c-08d7-4ed1-1248-db14f9474203@rhodes22.com>
References: <a194420c-08d7-4ed1-1248-db14f9474203@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiX3amcFdHQAajQOpA_=v1cBmCDvJ-g1e97L87XU382rPg@mail.gmail.com>

Gee Stan,
              Can I work form my computer here in Spain?  If I was only
over in the States I would be there in a minute.  Well maybe next time.
Good luck!  I know there are lots of generous Rhodies who will give you a
hand.

Chris Geankoplis
(Still waiting on Spanish Customs)

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>   This is from stan/general boats:
>
> Help (physical) Wanted getting 4 boats ready for show.
> Any able bodied (or half able) seaman (or seawoman) having time to kill in
> September to learn Rhodes building (or painting fences), are welcome.
> Compensation (besides fun) are in form of boat parts or actual dollars (or
> I.O.U.s), free living accommodations and sailing on the unique waters of
> the Albermarle.
>
> apply to general boats international, an equal opportunity employer
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From daysails at aol.com  Sat Aug 26 18:40:36 2017
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:40:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] help
In-Reply-To: <a194420c-08d7-4ed1-1248-db14f9474203@rhodes22.com>
References: <a194420c-08d7-4ed1-1248-db14f9474203@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <15e20b43643-c0d-16393@webjas-vac011.srv.aolmail.net>

Sorry to miss the opportunity to work with the master!  I'm in the Philippines until November.  Will send warm tropical weather for the boat show.  Joe Riley Hartwell GA 

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


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Help (physical) Wanted getting 4 boats ready for show.
Any able bodied (or half able) seaman (or seawoman) having time to kill 
in September to learn Rhodes building (or painting fences), are welcome.
Compensation (besides fun) are in form of boat parts or actual dollars 
(or I.O.U.s), free living accommodations and sailing on the unique 
waters of the Albermarle.

apply to general boats international, an equal opportunity employer
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 26 20:09:11 2017
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:09:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Virginian interested in a Rhodes 22
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Hopefully somebody will pipe up soon.    If not road trip south to the
Abermarle and Stan will teach you to refit one, or north to Annapolis.   

Alex



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From ohecht at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 27 03:02:30 2017
From: ohecht at earthlink.net (The Hechts)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 09:02:30 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Virginian interested in a Rhodes 22
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I keep mine near Urbanna...about 70 miles (~1 hour) from Richmond and would be happy to show her to you sometime. 

> On Aug 27, 2017, at 2:09 AM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hopefully somebody will pipe up soon.    If not road trip south to the
> Abermarle and Stan will teach you to refit one, or north to Annapolis.   
> 
> Alex
> 
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Aug 28 11:35:21 2017
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:35:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] help
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Elle 
Hope some doc is checking for Lyme disease!
Ric 
Dadventure

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:52 AM, elle via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Stan,  Best wishes getting ready for show....hope to see you there...my friend whom you met on our visit not long ago has developed some acute health probs and is still in the 'what the heck is wrong with this guy" stage of diagnosis...;
> best to you all ...hope to come by Annapolis....
> elle
> 
> 
> 
>    On Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:41 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>   This is from stan/general boats:
> 
> Help (physical) Wanted getting 4 boats ready for show.
> Any able bodied (or half able) seaman (or seawoman) having time to kill 
> in September to learn Rhodes building (or painting fences), are welcome.
> Compensation (besides fun) are in form of boat parts or actual dollars 
> (or I.O.U.s), free living accommodations and sailing on the unique 
> waters of the Albermarle.
> 
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Aug 29 09:45:06 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 09:45:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sailboat ground
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The knot log for my boat has a ground wire that is supposed to be attached to "sea earth" to minimize interference. I don't see that  have anything on my boat that would serve that purpose and was wondering what others do, if anything, to ground electronics.


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ric Stott
Sent: August 16, 2017 12:37 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length

Hi Graham
My blocks were not new but they were in good condition and free wheelin'
Next time I'm out I'll have a look with a mask. It was never easy to retract the CB - always a tug. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Ric:
> My centre board was difficult to lift as well until I took the cap off and discovered that all of the blocks were seized up. I think some earlier owner used a sealant that squeezed into the housing and fouled up the blocks. New blocks made a world of difference.
> 
> Graham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Stott
> Sent: August 15, 2017 9:32 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
> 
> Graham
> I stuck with the original design too. I can tell you that the system I have is too difficult for my wife to lift. In fact its not so easy for me either. 
> I know that its running  free and clear, but its still a heavy lift, especially the last 6 inches.  The diamond Board is most likely a solution to that issue; another upgrade that General Boats might offer someday. 
> I agree that a long line at the end of the CB is not a good solution. If the CB cap was not such a big deal to remove and replace, I would experiment, but for now, as with other minor annoyances, I sail the boat as much as possible and enjoy it immensely. 
> ric
> sv Dadventure
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> It wasn't high science but I experimented with not using the blocks when my boat was in it's lift. The board is heavier when in a lift than when in the water but even so it was a heavy lift - certainly more than my wife could lift or I would care to lift. My board weighs 80 pounds and most of that weight appears to be at the end where you would expect it to be. The attachment point for the line is about 1/3 of the way along the back edge. I figure that using that point of attachment would double the force needed to lift the board. That makes the board very heavy if you only use the one block and use the existing attachment point. 
>> 
>> The alternative might be to move the attachment point to the end of the board but that would mean it was dragging down low and aside from the friction and turbulence that would create, it would be very vulnerable to getting caught in weeds. Even then you are lifting about 35 pounds.  I decided to stick with the original design.
>> 
>> 
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Stott
>> Sent: August 14, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>> 
>> I was thinking of no blocks. Has anyone changed their old school set up to omit the blocks? 
>> Does the Diamond Board have any blocks? 
>> thanks
>> ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same set up on Waif - 1984 hull - and I am going through 
>>> the possess of rebuilding my center-board cap. Long story, but the 
>>> board came down when I was launching -'nuff said.
>>> 
>>> I too have 2 blocks and I think I will leave them as is - Stan in 
>>> his infinite wisdom spec'ed it this way. I suspect you could get 
>>> away with one block if you choose to go this route.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Stott 
>>> <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have an old style board. Its not that heavy, I?ve opened the 
>>>> gasketed top cap, removed the CB and repaired the cap, which was 
>>>> cracked due to a grounding. I  refurbished the trunk and replaced 
>>>> the hose parts which occupy the slots, installed to prevent the 
>>>> board from sliding up in its tracks and hitting the cap - which is 
>>>> apparently what happened.  Anyway - the board is not that heavy and 
>>>> although I replaced the line and blocks, I questioned myself at the 
>>>> time, that all that purchase adds more friction than the weight it presumably helps to lift.
>>>> It sounds like the newer diamond board does not use any blocks and 
>>>> is a direct path from the back of the board with no turning blocks.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I suggest that you reeve the pennant with plenty to spare and 
>>>>> when
>>>> you
>>>>> have the boat in the water and can test it, you cut it 
>>>>> length...just a suggestion
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>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>> I had misunderstood your original message.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just measured my tether. With the board up I have 68" of line showing.
>>>>>> With board down all but a few inches are used.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My boat does not have the diamond board - if that makes a difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>>>>>> On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 10:46 PM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanlks, Graham.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had some big differences over what you have. My first 1986 R22 
>>>>>> had the original CB, and I added a single block. It went through 
>>>>>> at least
>>>> 18-20? of
>>>>>> travel. This new factory-replaced CB  pulls fully down over the 38?
>>>> length.
>>>>>> I just don?t know where the sweet spot or usable depth is hit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Graham Stewart 
>>>>>>> <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay:
>>>>>>> The line that raises my centreboard is about 12'. It has to pass
>>>> through
>>>>>> three blocks before the final block at the base of the tube 
>>>>>> leading to
>>>> the
>>>>>> cockpit. When the centerboard is down I have very little line 
>>>>>> that is
>>>> free.
>>>>>> I have the original centreboard but I think the line route s the 
>>>>>> same
>>>> for
>>>>>> the diamond board.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>> Agile. R22, 1976
>>>>>>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> Sent: August 13, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB pendant length
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wondering about the optimum length for best use of the diamond 
>>>>>>> board. I
>>>>>> have 38? (full travel, stopper knot to exit hole) but have 
>>>>>> measured everywhere from 26? on up. Most have been factory set.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jay Friedland
>>>>>>> s/v Wanderlust ?97
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 10:30:59 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:30:59 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUez5e+tariwSjbxR_YH78AF3gJNsKCMAykM=KKYQScNA@mail.gmail.com>

Not much to report.   The food is great here in Barcelona, the beer is cold
and I am still working through channels to get the boat discharged from the
port.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel, just hope it isn't a
train coming the other way.

 Great demonstration of solidarity of the Spanish peoples and all other
peoples who live and visit here night before last.  The crowd was several
hundred thousand strong and included thousands of Muslims who protested
terrorism.  This terrorists attack was a failure in its objectives.  It
unified the country and the religious communities it did not divide.

Had I known everything I know about the shipping and customs process it
would have been a lot easier and less expensive.  I'll write up a complete
report with the details and cost so anyone can ship their small trailerable
boat to the Med.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Aug 29 11:35:02 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 11:35:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
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Sounds too complicated to ship the boat. I think I will just sail over.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Geankoplis
Sent: August 29, 2017 10:31 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain

Not much to report.   The food is great here in Barcelona, the beer is cold
and I am still working through channels to get the boat discharged from the
port.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel, just hope it isn't a train
coming the other way.

 Great demonstration of solidarity of the Spanish peoples and all other
peoples who live and visit here night before last.  The crowd was several
hundred thousand strong and included thousands of Muslims who protested
terrorism.  This terrorists attack was a failure in its objectives.  It
unified the country and the religious communities it did not divide.

Had I known everything I know about the shipping and customs process it
would have been a lot easier and less expensive.  I'll write up a complete
report with the details and cost so anyone can ship their small trailerable
boat to the Med.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 12:06:18 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:06:18 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
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Oh yes it is complicated.  But this from a guy who was going to "fix up" an
old boat in a couple of weeks (grin)  Hey, I'll crew for you on the
transatlantic.  Seriously if you want to sail over to the Bahamas in the
winter we will be there on our Catalina387 so you are welcome to use us as
a base or if you do need a crew for the crossing I might be able to help
out.

Chris.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Sounds too complicated to ship the boat. I think I will just sail over.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: August 29, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
>
> Not much to report.   The food is great here in Barcelona, the beer is cold
> and I am still working through channels to get the boat discharged from the
> port.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel, just hope it isn't a
> train
> coming the other way.
>
>  Great demonstration of solidarity of the Spanish peoples and all other
> peoples who live and visit here night before last.  The crowd was several
> hundred thousand strong and included thousands of Muslims who protested
> terrorism.  This terrorists attack was a failure in its objectives.  It
> unified the country and the religious communities it did not divide.
>
> Had I known everything I know about the shipping and customs process it
> would have been a lot easier and less expensive.  I'll write up a complete
> report with the details and cost so anyone can ship their small trailerable
> boat to the Med.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Aug 29 19:14:18 2017
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:14:18 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
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Chris:

Your offer is very inviting but until my wife retires I am afraid major
trips by water - even transatlantic - aren't in the cards. Have a great
winter in the Bahamas. I hope you keep the log going so I can enjoy your
adventures vicariously.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Geankoplis
Sent: August 29, 2017 12:06 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain

Oh yes it is complicated.  But this from a guy who was going to "fix up" an
old boat in a couple of weeks (grin)  Hey, I'll crew for you on the
transatlantic.  Seriously if you want to sail over to the Bahamas in the
winter we will be there on our Catalina387 so you are welcome to use us as a
base or if you do need a crew for the crossing I might be able to help out.

Chris.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Sounds too complicated to ship the boat. I think I will just sail over.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: August 29, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
>
> Not much to report.   The food is great here in Barcelona, the beer is
cold
> and I am still working through channels to get the boat discharged 
> from the port.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel, just hope 
> it isn't a train coming the other way.
>
>  Great demonstration of solidarity of the Spanish peoples and all 
> other peoples who live and visit here night before last.  The crowd 
> was several hundred thousand strong and included thousands of Muslims 
> who protested terrorism.  This terrorists attack was a failure in its 
> objectives.  It unified the country and the religious communities it did
not divide.
>
> Had I known everything I know about the shipping and customs process 
> it would have been a lot easier and less expensive.  I'll write up a 
> complete report with the details and cost so anyone can ship their 
> small trailerable boat to the Med.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 03:47:58 2017
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:47:58 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
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You bet Graham.  Good luck with your water baby, or water phoenix.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Chris:
>
> Your offer is very inviting but until my wife retires I am afraid major
> trips by water - even transatlantic - aren't in the cards. Have a great
> winter in the Bahamas. I hope you keep the log going so I can enjoy your
> adventures vicariously.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: August 29, 2017 12:06 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
>
> Oh yes it is complicated.  But this from a guy who was going to "fix up" an
> old boat in a couple of weeks (grin)  Hey, I'll crew for you on the
> transatlantic.  Seriously if you want to sail over to the Bahamas in the
> winter we will be there on our Catalina387 so you are welcome to use us as
> a
> base or if you do need a crew for the crossing I might be able to help out.
>
> Chris.
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Sounds too complicated to ship the boat. I think I will just sail over.
> > Graham
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
> > Sent: August 29, 2017 10:31 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Spain
> >
> > Not much to report.   The food is great here in Barcelona, the beer is
> cold
> > and I am still working through channels to get the boat discharged
> > from the port.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel, just hope
> > it isn't a train coming the other way.
> >
> >  Great demonstration of solidarity of the Spanish peoples and all
> > other peoples who live and visit here night before last.  The crowd
> > was several hundred thousand strong and included thousands of Muslims
> > who protested terrorism.  This terrorists attack was a failure in its
> > objectives.  It unified the country and the religious communities it did
> not divide.
> >
> > Had I known everything I know about the shipping and customs process
> > it would have been a lot easier and less expensive.  I'll write up a
> > complete report with the details and cost so anyone can ship their
> > small trailerable boat to the Med.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis
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