From hgamblejr at usa.net Sat Mar 4 12:02:52 2017 From: hgamblejr at usa.net (harry gamble) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 11:02:52 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale Message-ID: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with Stan three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor hoist, etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If anyone is interested please let me know. Harry Gamble From lwdenney at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 14:21:17 2017 From: lwdenney at gmail.com (Laurie Whitney Denney) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 14:21:17 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale In-Reply-To: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> References: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Sorry to hear you are selling, hope you have great memories. Would love to see photos and know the asking price. We have a 1979 we call The Nirvana, that we cherish but are looking for a newer build. Let me know, thanks. Laurie Denney On Mar 4, 2017 12:03 PM, "harry gamble" wrote: Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with Stan three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor hoist, etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If anyone is interested please let me know. Harry Gamble __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ltcol25 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 15:32:43 2017 From: ltcol25 at yahoo.com (richard boeckman) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 14:32:43 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale In-Reply-To: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> References: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <95952DBA-DB0F-4547-93B4-E9AE804E5499@yahoo.com> I am interested in details also. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, harry gamble wrote: > > Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with Stan > three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor hoist, > etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is > presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If anyone > is interested please let me know. > > Harry Gamble > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From hgamblejr at usa.net Sat Mar 4 17:36:30 2017 From: hgamblejr at usa.net (harry gamble) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 16:36:30 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale Message-ID: <303VcDwjE9184S07.1488666990@web07.cms.usa.net> Thank you for your response. I guess I'm a little premature as the boat is at my summer home where materials and photos are located. I expect to be there in about two weeks and can provide more details and photos. But basically it is a General Boats Rhodes 22, blue hull, in very good condition. As to price, I would like to get $25,000 for the boat, motor, trailer,etc.. It should be worth twice that, but I realize that the used boats are heavily discounted. As to memories, yes we've had many fine moments on this and the previous Rhodes,and boats before that. But I turned 80 last December, and while that is young from Stan's perspective, I'm not as agile as I used to be. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 01:21:28 PM CST From: Laurie Whitney Denney To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sale Sorry to hear you are selling, hope you have great memories. Would love to see photos and know the asking price. We have a 1979 we call The Nirvana, that we cherish but are looking for a newer build. Let me know, thanks. Laurie Denney On Mar 4, 2017 12:03 PM, "harry gamble" wrote: Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with Stan three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor hoist, etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If anyone is interested please let me know. Harry Gamble __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From larrywallen at verizon.net Sun Mar 5 14:16:09 2017 From: larrywallen at verizon.net (Larry Allen) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 14:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale In-Reply-To: <95952DBA-DB0F-4547-93B4-E9AE804E5499@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15a9fe68749-4f3d-11822@webprd-m45.mail.aol.com> Please post details. Larry Allen Sarasota -----Original Message----- From: richard boeckman via Rhodes22-list To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Sent: Sat, Mar 4, 2017 3:36 pm Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sale I am interested in details also. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM, harry gamble wrote: > > Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with Stan > three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor hoist, > etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is > presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If anyone > is interested please let me know. > > Harry Gamble > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Sun Mar 5 15:40:16 2017 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:40:16 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale In-Reply-To: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> References: <802VcDRB19824S01.1488646972@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Hi Harry Sorry to hear you're hanging up your sailing boots. Your new boat is certainly a beauty. Be sure to let the buyer know that I am happy to handle the delivery and relaunch if needed. Hope to see you in Asheville one day. Cheers ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:02 PM, harry gamble wrote: > Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with > Stan > three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor > hoist, > etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is > presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If > anyone > is interested please let me know. > > Harry Gamble > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From hgamblejr at usa.net Mon Mar 6 21:50:31 2017 From: hgamblejr at usa.net (harry gamble) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:50:31 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale Message-ID: <708Vcgcxf9408S01.1488855031@web01.cms.usa.net> Thanks Richard. I'll certainly recommend you handle any delivery. You did an outstanding job for me before-trailer on top of the van, etc. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 02:40:36 PM CST From: Richard Beytagh To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sale Hi Harry Sorry to hear you're hanging up your sailing boots. Your new boat is certainly a beauty. Be sure to let the buyer know that I am happy to handle the delivery and relaunch if needed. Hope to see you in Asheville one day. Cheers ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:02 PM, harry gamble wrote: > Sadly,I am putting my Rhodes up for sale. I traded my old 1994 boat with > Stan > three years ago for a 2006, completely refurbished-solar panels, motor > hoist, > etc. A 9.9 Yamaha goes with it. Also trailer and other accessories.It is > presently on the trailer at my cabin on Perdido Bay near Pensacola. If > anyone > is interested please let me know. > > Harry Gamble > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 19:39:59 2017 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:39:59 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays Message-ID: Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still sailing. One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to repair this. For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, and I own a 1983 Rhodes 22. From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Wed Mar 8 21:02:01 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 21:02:01 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005401d29879$27412050$75c360f0$@ca> Without signing your message we are unable to address you by name. I have attached a picture of one of the chainplates that I removed from my boat so that you can see what you are dealing with. The chainplate, which is really just a tang that has been bent so that it goes through the deck and wraps under the deck core material (plywood in my case) and is held by a small screw that goes through the hole in the end. Mine all worked loose and as a result it was impossible to make a permanent seal where the tang went through the deck. I had no idea what I was dealing with and so I ground out the deck to get the things out. I now know that it probably would have been much easier to remove them by cutting through the headliner, remove the screw and push the chainplate out from below. I also attached a picture of the holes I created and then has to patch and subsequently repaint my entire deck - which I was going to to anyway because of a variety of other repairs I made to the deck. I didn't want to keep the old chainplates so I installed new ones. For these I used forged eyebolts made by Blue Wave. The advantage of this arrangement is that I could install it through a hole that I drilled through the deck and core that I filled with epoxy and sealed with butyl tape. It should be watertight. I made spacers of composite lumber cut at an angel to fit the slope of the liner and that , along with large stainless steel fender washers should be at least as strong as the original tang and with little, if any, room to wiggle loose. I have attached a picture of the deck after it was rebuilt showing the new chainplates installed. That said, I have not yet completed my rebuild and have not tested this new arrangement on the water. When you say that "one of the chainplates pulled the fibreglass" I am not sure what you are describing. If you mean that the fibreglass lifted than I would be concerned that the core material has become rotten. Water egress into the deck was a concern that prompted me to make my repairs although it turned out that I had no water damage to the core.. If the core is wet and rotten you have a much larger problem to address. Let me know if that is the case and I might be able to make some suggestions as that was a problem that I had to address one the fore deck and in the process eventually discovered that I definitely did it the hard way. The problem is that you can't see what is happening under the deck. Pictures of the damage would be very useful. Take care, Graham Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Luis Guzman Sent: March 8, 2017 7:40 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still sailing. One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to repair this. For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, and I own a 1983 Rhodes 22. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Chainplate.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 89771 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Filling lower shroud holes.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 69382 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lower chainplates with composite spacers.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 591134 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did a quick Google search of the list (use the search: site:rhodes22.org chainplate) and came up with a number of hits including one of Rummy's and one of my own referring to earlier posts. http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-April/073365.html http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-April/073366.html Hope this helps. Mary Lou ex Rhodes 22 Fretless now Rosborough RF-246 Tara Rock Hall, MD On 3/8/2017 7:39 PM, Luis Guzman wrote: > Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still > sailing. > > One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm > looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to > repair this. > > For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, and I > own a 1983 Rhodes 22. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 05:54:12 2017 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 10:54:12 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays In-Reply-To: <5850b874-e9c3-77ea-07a7-e7cdb214789e@atlanticbb.net> References: <5850b874-e9c3-77ea-07a7-e7cdb214789e@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: Mary Lou, Thanks for the info. It looks like the forward and aft lower stays are attached in a different way. I thimk that Slim's pictures show the forward stay. Mine is the aft, and it seems to be bent into the cabin's top. I could not see Ron's pictures, but it sounds like he had a problem with the aft stay like me. I hate to do it, but I guess I'm going to have to do some cutting to repair it. Luis Guzman S/V Aquetxali On Wed, Mar 8, 2017, 9:48 PM Mary Lou Troy wrote: > Hi Luis, > > Welcome back. Hope the problem means you've been sailing a lot. > > This has come up before before. I did a quick Google search of the list > (use the search: site:rhodes22.org chainplate) and came up with a > number of hits including one of Rummy's and one of my own referring to > earlier posts. > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-April/073365.html > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-April/073366.html > > Hope this helps. > > Mary Lou > ex Rhodes 22 Fretless > now Rosborough RF-246 Tara > Rock Hall, MD > > > > On 3/8/2017 7:39 PM, Luis Guzman wrote: > > Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still > > sailing. > > > > One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm > > looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to > > repair this. > > > > For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, > and I > > own a 1983 Rhodes 22. > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From ric at stottarchitecture.com Thu Mar 9 06:37:50 2017 From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 06:37:50 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays In-Reply-To: <005401d29879$27412050$75c360f0$@ca> References: <005401d29879$27412050$75c360f0$@ca> Message-ID: <1D60A3B7-6FF4-456A-9302-87C9B23B7EE0@stottarchitecture.com> Nice job Graham -very slick. Ric Dadventure HBNY Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:02 PM, Graham Stewart wrote: > > Without signing your message we are unable to address you by name. > > I have attached a picture of one of the chainplates that I removed from my > boat so that you can see what you are dealing with. The chainplate, which is > really just a tang that has been bent so that it goes through the deck and > wraps under the deck core material (plywood in my case) and is held by a > small screw that goes through the hole in the end. Mine all worked loose and > as a result it was impossible to make a permanent seal where the tang went > through the deck. I had no idea what I was dealing with and so I ground out > the deck to get the things out. I now know that it probably would have been > much easier to remove them by cutting through the headliner, remove the > screw and push the chainplate out from below. I also attached a picture of > the holes I created and then has to patch and subsequently repaint my entire > deck - which I was going to to anyway because of a variety of other repairs > I made to the deck. > > I didn't want to keep the old chainplates so I installed new ones. For these > I used forged eyebolts made by Blue Wave. The advantage of this arrangement > is that I could install it through a hole that I drilled through the deck > and core that I filled with epoxy and sealed with butyl tape. It should be > watertight. I made spacers of composite lumber cut at an angel to fit the > slope of the liner and that , along with large stainless steel fender > washers should be at least as strong as the original tang and with little, > if any, room to wiggle loose. I have attached a picture of the deck after it > was rebuilt showing the new chainplates installed. That said, I have not yet > completed my rebuild and have not tested this new arrangement on the water. > > When you say that "one of the chainplates pulled the fibreglass" I am not > sure what you are describing. If you mean that the fibreglass lifted than I > would be concerned that the core material has become rotten. Water egress > into the deck was a concern that prompted me to make my repairs although it > turned out that I had no water damage to the core.. If the core is wet and > rotten you have a much larger problem to address. Let me know if that is the > case and I might be able to make some suggestions as that was a problem that > I had to address one the fore deck and in the process eventually discovered > that I definitely did it the hard way. The problem is that you can't see > what is happening under the deck. > > Pictures of the damage would be very useful. > > Take care, > Graham > > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of > Luis Guzman > Sent: March 8, 2017 7:40 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays > > Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still > sailing. > > One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm > looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to > repair this. > > For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, and I > own a 1983 Rhodes 22. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Chainplate.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 89771 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Filling lower shroud holes.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 69382 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Lower chainplates with composite spacers.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 591134 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Non-skid port side September 2015.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 368773 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Blue wave forged eye bolts for lower chainplates.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 7070 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 14:47:33 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:47:33 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Luis, The chainplates are not L shaped and attached under the plywood deck coring in every boat. In some boats, they are straight and attached to the coring of the cabintop sides. As the first step, use a magnetic stud finder to be sure which design you have. Rick On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Luis Guzman wrote: > Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still > sailing. > > One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm > looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to > repair this. > > For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, and I > own a 1983 Rhodes 22. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 15:41:45 2017 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:41:45 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Subject: lower stays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, I can see that I have the L shape chainplate in the afected stay. Thanks for the info. Luis Guzman S/V Aquetxali On Thu, Mar 9, 2017, 2:47 PM Rick wrote: Luis, The chainplates are not L shaped and attached under the plywood deck coring in every boat. In some boats, they are straight and attached to the coring of the cabintop sides. As the first step, use a magnetic stud finder to be sure which design you have. Rick On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Luis Guzman wrote: > Hello everyone. I have been off the list for a long time, but I"m still > sailing. > > One of the aft-lower stay pulled the fiberglass on the cabin top, and I'm > looking for information on where the chain plate is located, and how to > repair this. > > For the pnes who do not know me pr remember me, I'm in Bradenyon, FL, and I > own a 1983 Rhodes 22. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rlowe at vt.edu Fri Mar 10 09:36:16 2017 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:36:16 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast lighting Message-ID: <29b814a652c6483ebac3d3038337b9f5@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> I've decided to go ahead and add both a masthead light for when I motor at night and an anchor light for when we do overnighters. The boat only came with a masthead light. How are other boats set up? Right now I have two wires going up the mast to the masthead light. Running 4 (or 3, two positive with a common ground) is not an issue. The problem I've having is how to get to the wires that exit the cabin top and go to the connector next to the mast. Anyone know how to access these? Can you snake them above the liner or do you have to remove or cut into the liner? Any help appreciated. Thanks- rob https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules Rob Lowe s/v still looking for a name From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Mar 10 09:44:47 2017 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:44:47 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast lighting In-Reply-To: <29b814a652c6483ebac3d3038337b9f5@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> References: <29b814a652c6483ebac3d3038337b9f5@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> Message-ID: <3f747a1b-818c-8f06-f99e-22ff08cf1b3d@atlanticbb.net> We were able to get to those wires by removing the light fixture in the head. Mary Lou Rosborough RF-246 Tara ex 1991 R22 On 3/10/2017 9:36 AM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > I've decided to go ahead and add both a masthead light for when I motor at night and an anchor light for when we do overnighters. The boat only came with a masthead light. How are other boats set up? > > Right now I have two wires going up the mast to the masthead light. Running 4 (or 3, two positive with a common ground) is not an issue. The problem I've having is how to get to the wires that exit the cabin top and go to the connector next to the mast. Anyone know how to access these? Can you snake them above the liner or do you have to remove or cut into the liner? Any help appreciated. Thanks- rob > > https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules > > Rob Lowe > s/v still looking for a name > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From peter at sunnybeeches.com Sat Mar 11 07:38:17 2017 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:38:17 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast lighting In-Reply-To: <29b814a652c6483ebac3d3038337b9f5@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> References: <29b814a652c6483ebac3d3038337b9f5@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> Message-ID: <458BFE74-0423-4F47-9268-CD93E77285FA@sunnybeeches.com> Rob, On my 1988 with a semi-enclosed head, the wires run down a chase along side the compression post, under the head floor to the starboard side, under the galley behind the toe-kick, and up along the hull behind the ice-box to the breaker panel. No cutting would be required to replace the wire, but lots of disassembly. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > I've decided to go ahead and add both a masthead light for when I motor at night and an anchor light for when we do overnighters. The boat only came with a masthead light. How are other boats set up? > > Right now I have two wires going up the mast to the masthead light. Running 4 (or 3, two positive with a common ground) is not an issue. The problem I've having is how to get to the wires that exit the cabin top and go to the connector next to the mast. Anyone know how to access these? Can you snake them above the liner or do you have to remove or cut into the liner? Any help appreciated. Thanks- rob > > https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules > > Rob Lowe > s/v still looking for a name > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 11:10:08 2017 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 16:10:08 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast lighting In-Reply-To: <458BFE74-0423-4F47-9268-CD93E77285FA@sunnybeeches.com> References: <29b814a652c6483ebac3d3038337b9f5@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> <458BFE74-0423-4F47-9268-CD93E77285FA@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: Rob, You should be able to use fish tape to do this job https://www.zoro.com/klein-tools-marked-fish-tape-14-in-x-25-ft-steel-56005/i/G1522866/?gclid=Cj0KEQiA3Y7GBRD29f-7kYuO1-ABEiQAodAvwJaI_21SelJmWn01pRLaMIaTnlekzYEP-ryXASXm9bwaAhMP8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds Luis Guzman S/V Aquetxali On Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 7:38 AM Peter Nyberg wrote: > > Rob, > > On my 1988 with a semi-enclosed head, the wires run down a chase along > side the compression post, under the head floor to the starboard side, > under the galley behind the toe-kick, and up along the hull behind the > ice-box to the breaker panel. No cutting would be required to replace the > wire, but lots of disassembly. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > > > I've decided to go ahead and add both a masthead light for when I motor > at night and an anchor light for when we do overnighters. The boat only > came with a masthead light. How are other boats set up? > > > > Right now I have two wires going up the mast to the masthead light. > Running 4 (or 3, two positive with a common ground) is not an issue. The > problem I've having is how to get to the wires that exit the cabin top and > go to the connector next to the mast. Anyone know how to access these? > Can you snake them above the liner or do you have to remove or cut into the > liner? Any help appreciated. Thanks- rob > > > > https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules > > > > Rob Lowe > > s/v still looking for a name > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From boendert at me.com Sun Mar 12 22:07:44 2017 From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:07:44 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller project In-Reply-To: <1488247392211-52905.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1488247392211-52905.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <972797B6-1476-49B2-8EBA-CA5E792F8505@me.com> Sweet! I love my fiberglass tiller, too. Cheers, Ted S/V AIRPOWER 1991/2013 R22 Jacksonville, FL > On Feb 27, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > > I finally > got around to installing the new fiberglass tiller I bought from Stan last > year to replace my rotted wooden tiller. I wish Stan had pre drilled the > hardware for me but it turned out fine. > > > > > ----- > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Tiller-project-tp52905.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 15:44:32 2017 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R-22 for sale References: <1995334262.32794.1489520672804.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1995334262.32794.1489520672804@mail.yahoo.com> Just an update for those looking for a recycled R-22...'Lady' is currently back 'home' in Edenton awaiting her new home. I will post specifics in a later mail but wanted to get the word back out there. Stan, I'll be down for a visit after I return from daughter's wedding...just couldn't swing it before....so by the 1st of the month. elle From Austin.Abel at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 14:17:45 2017 From: Austin.Abel at gmail.com (SwampFox) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:17:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing Message-ID: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> Well, not sure if this is appropriate for da list, but I will be racing Swamp Fox tonight in New Orleans. We have no intention of being competitive but with the generous 273 PHRF rating we were given, we just might be. Has anyone else raced their R22 in recent years? -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 14:40:36 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:40:36 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: If you are racing an IMF rig, you'll need at least a 5 minute handicap. Rick From Austin.Abel at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 15:18:43 2017 From: Austin.Abel at gmail.com (SwampFox) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:18:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From hnw555 at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 15:30:44 2017 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:30:44 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to fuel the crew... Hank On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: > I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. I do > have high hopes of fun on the water though. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Wed Mar 15 15:46:17 2017 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:46:17 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to fuel the crew... Hank On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: > I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. > I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 17:03:21 2017 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:03:21 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I once got a 2nd place and lost by a barnacle at a regatta in Bradenton. Though, I had a crew member who had lots of experience racing, and the conditions were favorable to the Rhodes. Luis Guzman S/V Aquetxali On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 3:46 PM Chris Cowie wrote: > Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of Hank > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing > > That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to > fuel the crew... > > Hank > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: > > > I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. > > I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > > nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html > > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Wed Mar 15 18:03:57 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:03:57 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> to all yee of little faith: You need the IMF with the batten. You need the IMF with the up-to-date out haul car You need the new invention traveler system You need to sail with boom in its low position You need the 3 lead genoa system You need a clean bottom - no bottom paint. You need a lightened boat by leaving the motor, gas and batteries, Plus all that booze home Emptying the holding tank and water tank and all the other ( ) you carry that the other guys do not, home. Or, alternately, getting a rating adjustment for everything on your boat the others do not come with. Or, You need a competent skipper. On 3/15/17 3:46 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing > > That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to fuel the crew... > > Hank > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: > >> I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. >> I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. >> nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 18:26:33 2017 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:26:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: You need a code zero with a screecher on a sprit !! On Mar 15, 2017 6:04 PM, "Stan Spitzer" wrote: > > to all yee of little faith: > > You need the IMF with the batten. > You need the IMF with the up-to-date out haul car > You need the new invention traveler system > You need to sail with boom in its low position > You need the 3 lead genoa system > You need a clean bottom - no bottom paint. > You need a lightened boat by leaving the motor, gas and batteries, Plus > all that booze home Emptying the holding tank and water tank and all the > other ( ) you carry that the other guys do not, home. Or, alternately, > getting a rating adjustment for everything on your boat the others do not > come with. > > Or, You need a competent skipper. > > > > On 3/15/17 3:46 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > >> Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. >> >> Christopher P. Cowie >> >> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >> Suite 300 >> Washington, DC 20007 >> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >> >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf Of Hank >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing >> >> That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to >> fuel the crew... >> >> Hank >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: >> >> I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. >>> I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. >>> nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ >> ____________________ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 10:43:27 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 10:43:27 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: Stan, 3 lead genoa system--is that the track car for a genoa sheet? Rick On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > to all yee of little faith: > > You need the IMF with the batten. > You need the IMF with the up-to-date out haul car > You need the new invention traveler system > You need to sail with boom in its low position > You need the 3 lead genoa system > You need a clean bottom - no bottom paint. > You need a lightened boat by leaving the motor, gas and batteries, Plus > all that booze home Emptying the holding tank and water tank and all the > other ( ) you carry that the other guys do not, home. Or, alternately, > getting a rating adjustment for everything on your boat the others do not > come with. > > Or, You need a competent skipper. > > > > On 3/15/17 3:46 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > >> Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. >> >> Christopher P. Cowie >> >> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >> Suite 300 >> Washington, DC 20007 >> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >> >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf Of Hank >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing >> >> That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to >> fuel the crew... >> >> Hank >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: >> >> I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. >>> I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. >>> nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ >> ____________________ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Thu Mar 16 11:42:23 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:42:23 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> no, is the genoa track and car lead on the cockpit gunnel and the eye and cam cleat on the vertical side of the cabin and the fair lead and cam cleat on the aft top edge of the cabin. each set allows for progressively closer to center line sheeting and gives up progressively more jib area in exchange for closer pointing. On 3/16/17 10:43 AM, Rick wrote: > Stan, > > 3 lead genoa system--is that the track car for a genoa sheet? > > Rick > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > >> to all yee of little faith: >> >> You need the IMF with the batten. >> You need the IMF with the up-to-date out haul car >> You need the new invention traveler system >> You need to sail with boom in its low position >> You need the 3 lead genoa system >> You need a clean bottom - no bottom paint. >> You need a lightened boat by leaving the motor, gas and batteries, Plus >> all that booze home Emptying the holding tank and water tank and all the >> other ( ) you carry that the other guys do not, home. Or, alternately, >> getting a rating adjustment for everything on your boat the others do not >> come with. >> >> Or, You need a competent skipper. >> >> >> >> On 3/15/17 3:46 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: >> >>> Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. >>> >>> Christopher P. Cowie >>> >>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >>> Suite 300 >>> Washington, DC 20007 >>> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >>> >>> >>> >>> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >>> Behalf Of Hank >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing >>> >>> That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring along to >>> fuel the crew... >>> >>> Hank >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: >>> >>> I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. >>>> I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. >>>> nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html >>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ >>> ____________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Thu Mar 16 11:53:28 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:53:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> Stan, Pictures? Price of modifications? Is a kit available? Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:42 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing no, is the genoa track and car lead on the cockpit gunnel and the eye and cam cleat on the vertical side of the cabin and the fair lead and cam cleat on the aft top edge of the cabin. each set allows for progressively closer to center line sheeting and gives up progressively more jib area in exchange for closer pointing. On 3/16/17 10:43 AM, Rick wrote: > Stan, > > 3 lead genoa system--is that the track car for a genoa sheet? > > Rick > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > >> to all yee of little faith: >> >> You need the IMF with the batten. >> You need the IMF with the up-to-date out haul car You need the new >> invention traveler system You need to sail with boom in its low >> position You need the 3 lead genoa system You need a clean bottom - >> no bottom paint. >> You need a lightened boat by leaving the motor, gas and batteries, >> Plus all that booze home Emptying the holding tank and water tank >> and all the other ( ) you carry that the other guys do not, home. >> Or, alternately, getting a rating adjustment for everything on your >> boat the others do not come with. >> >> Or, You need a competent skipper. >> >> >> >> On 3/15/17 3:46 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: >> >>> Beer also works pretty well however Rum is a more potent propellant. >>> >>> Christopher P. Cowie >>> >>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >>> Suite 300 >>> Washington, DC 20007 >>> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >>> >>> >>> >>> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >>> Behalf Of Hank >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:31 PM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing >>> >>> That's all directly proportional to the amount of rum you bring >>> along to fuel the crew... >>> >>> Hank >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, SwampFox wrote: >>> >>> I have the IMF, so I do not have huge hopes of sailing to the rating. >>>> I do have high hopes of fun on the water though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. >>>> nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52928.html >>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> ______________________________ ____________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From Austin.Abel at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 14:45:08 2017 From: Austin.Abel at gmail.com (SwampFox) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:45:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> Well, after putting the motor in the v-berth, raising the genny as high as possible, tightening the luff tensioners on the sails and using the boom topping lift as a whisker pole topping lift we managed a respectable 2nd place finish in our class. If the bottom were smooth instead of having rolled on paint and 3 weeks growth, we would have won for sure. We got some funny looks at first, being the smallest boat with blown out sails, but take a look at the results in the link below. The boat did way better than anyone thought. (PHRF Non Spin B) http://www.regattanetwork.com/event/14283#_newsroom+results You can see us a few times around the halfway point in this drone video of the race. We look so small compared to the other boats, but you'll see they're behind us. https://www.skypixel.com/videos/wednesday-night-racing-17-opening-night -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52937.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jadoucet at snet.net Thu Mar 16 17:47:53 2017 From: jadoucet at snet.net (joseph doucet) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:47:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <793B2D69-3A13-4BB1-9E7A-EC7524199183@snet.net> Yes, i race our R22. 1: reduce unnecessary weight. Light anchor, small motor, 1/4 filled fuel tank, light crew, ditch inside cushions and other junk you may want for cruising. 2: tie the jib line, do not use a clip that can get caught when tacking 3: roll tack. That is if the crew was on the high side before the tack, stay there as it becomes the low side until all sails are driving. In light air do not change sides when tacking. The tiller person keeps the boat moving. The crew watches the other boats and gives tacking advise. 4 work the traveler to get maximum drive. Start with 50% move of traveler upwind. On each upwind tack 5 adjust the pointing using a velocity made good measurement. That is maximize the component of your velocity vector that points to the mark. This can be done by the crew using a phone app. 6 cover your opponents tacks when sailing upwind. You of course tack away if you are being covered 7 shadow opponents downwind. Down wind jibe away if you are being shadowed. Raise center board down wind to reduce drag 8 have fun, congratulate your opponents, drink beer / wine/ ... Slow Joe Joe Doucet 203-512-5629 > On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Rick wrote: > > If you are racing an IMF rig, you'll need at least a 5 minute handicap. > > Rick > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From jadoucet at snet.net Thu Mar 16 18:01:15 2017 From: jadoucet at snet.net (joseph doucet) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:01:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <3AA3B7DD-D65F-4656-936C-F255C28FE6DD@snet.net> In addition I agree with Stan : For top speed drop the boom to its lowest position. This causes the Jenny to fully align with the main, producing better drive. Adjust the main outhaul depending on the wind. Loose for low wind, tight for high wind Find a strong, smart 10 year old girl to crew in light air Shout "thumb Tack" when you are on a port tack collision course Probably more to come Joe Doucet 203-512-5629 > On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:45 PM, SwampFox wrote: > > Well, after putting the motor in the v-berth, raising the genny as high as > possible, tightening the luff tensioners on the sails and using the boom > topping lift as a whisker pole topping lift we managed a respectable 2nd > place finish in our class. If the bottom were smooth instead of having > rolled on paint and 3 weeks growth, we would have won for sure. > > We got some funny looks at first, being the smallest boat with blown out > sails, but take a look at the results in the link below. The boat did way > better than anyone thought. (PHRF Non Spin B) > > http://www.regattanetwork.com/event/14283#_newsroom+results > > You can see us a few times around the halfway point in this drone video of > the race. We look so small compared to the other boats, but you'll see > they're behind us. > > https://www.skypixel.com/videos/wednesday-night-racing-17-opening-night > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52937.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Mar 17 09:19:59 2017 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:19:59 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <22bac6e7-f529-20da-66fc-2a321937cea4@atlanticbb.net> Wow. Congrats! Really close on the results. Great drone footage. Watch out or they will lower your rating. ;-) Mary Lou On 3/16/2017 2:45 PM, SwampFox wrote: > Well, after putting the motor in the v-berth, raising the genny as high as > possible, tightening the luff tensioners on the sails and using the boom > topping lift as a whisker pole topping lift we managed a respectable 2nd > place finish in our class. If the bottom were smooth instead of having > rolled on paint and 3 weeks growth, we would have won for sure. > > We got some funny looks at first, being the smallest boat with blown out > sails, but take a look at the results in the link below. The boat did way > better than anyone thought. (PHRF Non Spin B) > > http://www.regattanetwork.com/event/14283#_newsroom+results > > You can see us a few times around the halfway point in this drone video of > the race. We look so small compared to the other boats, but you'll see > they're behind us. > > https://www.skypixel.com/videos/wednesday-night-racing-17-opening-night > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52937.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 15:34:24 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:34:24 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Using the boom topping lift as a whisker pole topping lift--I always have trouble holding the clew end of the pole down. Where is the mast end of your pole attached that you have to lift the clew end? Rick From Austin.Abel at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 16:22:55 2017 From: Austin.Abel at gmail.com (SwampFox) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:22:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: References: <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1489782175792-52944.post@n5.nabble.com> Perhaps if the wind were stronger, we might have had that particular issue. We only had sustained winds of 4kts with gusts of 6. Tied a line around the mast and ran it through the swivel on the boom car. It was quite a jury rigged set up. It worked well though. -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52944.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From hgamblejr at usa.net Fri Mar 17 16:56:09 2017 From: hgamblejr at usa.net (harry gamble) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:56:09 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale Message-ID: <053Vcqu4J4832S04.1489784169@web04.cms.usa.net> Thank you Mark. For those interested in my Rhodes that I posted for sale recently, I hope to give further information soon with photos. In the meantime, I am conferring with my sons who may convinve me to keep the Molly Gae (named for my wife) That's not certain though, so I'll provide an update . Thank you for your interest and patience. Harry ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 02:27:08 PM CDT From: mark dugas To: "hgamblejr at usa.net" Subject: Rhodes 22 for sale Dear Mr. Gamble, I saw on the Rhodes 22 discussion group that you are selling your boat. I would be interested in learning more about it please. Thanks, Mark --- Mark Dugas cell 603 315 8445 From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Sat Mar 18 15:33:09 2017 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 19:33:09 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489782175792-52944.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489782175792-52944.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 17, 2017, 4:22 PM SwampFox wrote: > Perhaps if the wind were stronger, we might have had that particular issue. > We only had sustained winds of 4kts with gusts of 6. Tied a line around the > mast and ran it through the swivel on the boom car. It was quite a jury > rigged set up. It worked well though. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52944.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > here is the proof Luis Guzman S/V Aquetxali -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20170318_145631.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2521034 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rirwin at bex.net Tue Mar 21 12:52:11 2017 From: rirwin at bex.net (rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:52:11 +0900 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?q?news?= Message-ID: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> Hey, Have you heard that awesome news? 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You just need to read it wright now) Please take a look http://evolve.ninjacoins.net/4544 Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Tue Mar 21 13:11:40 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:11:40 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> Message-ID: <007701d2a266$35445400$9fccfc00$@ca> That was my thought as well.If it is not spam, please identify the message. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Louis Weiss Sent: March 21, 2017 12:57 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news I suggest someone get this message off the list before someone clicks on what is most likely spam at best, and a virus at worst. Bob Robert L Weiss Jr. Director of Music First United Methodist Carbondale, IL Professor Emeritus, SIUC ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:52:11 AM To: Rhodes22-list; rhodes22-list Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news Hey, Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) Please take a look http://evolve.ninjacoins.net/4544 Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From jlock at relevantarts.com Tue Mar 21 13:55:16 2017 From: jlock at relevantarts.com (John Lock) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:55:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> Message-ID: Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: > Hey, > > Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx > > Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Tue Mar 21 16:44:41 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:44:41 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> Message-ID: <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca> John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: > Hey, > > Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) > Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx > > Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Tue Mar 21 20:02:23 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:02:23 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca> References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca> Message-ID: <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> I filter much of the spam that hits the list, usually 50-100 posts per day. This one got through because it came from a registered list user. The Rhodie's PC must have been infected or somehow compromised. I will remove the dangerous content from the archived message as soon as I have a moment to access the list server. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: > Hey, > > Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) > Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx > > Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Tue Mar 21 20:12:57 2017 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:12:57 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca>, <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <73CCFEB6-0D69-48B7-B653-592FF3E179E6@cowieassociates.com> Thank you for continuing to manage the list. Sent from my iPad Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image005.png at 01CE8701.15794830] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Michael Weisner > wrote: I filter much of the spam that hits the list, usually 50-100 posts per day. This one got through because it came from a registered list user. The Rhodie's PC must have been infected or somehow compromised. I will remove the dangerous content from the archived message as soon as I have a moment to access the list server. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: Hey, Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 22:46:28 2017 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <73CCFEB6-0D69-48B7-B653-592FF3E179E6@cowieassociates.com> References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca> <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> <73CCFEB6-0D69-48B7-B653-592FF3E179E6@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: <335982086.862299.1490150788351@mail.yahoo.com> I second. elle On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:13 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: Thank you for continuing to manage the list. Sent from my iPad Christopher P. Cowie? [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]? [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image005.png at 01CE8701.15794830] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Michael Weisner > wrote: I filter much of the spam that hits the list, usually 50-100 posts per day. This one got through because it came from a registered list user. The Rhodie's PC must have been infected or somehow compromised.? I will remove the dangerous content from the archived message as soon as I have a moment to access the list server. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: Hey, Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From daysails at aol.com Wed Mar 22 07:14:41 2017 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 07:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <73CCFEB6-0D69-48B7-B653-592FF3E179E6@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: <15af5b9d4c3-3e85-16469@webprd-a29.mail.aol.com> Yes, thanks Mike for all you do to keep this community communicating. Joe Riley s/v Second Wind, Lake Hartwell. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Cowie To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Sent: Tue, Mar 21, 2017 8:13 pm Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Thank you for continuing to manage the list. Sent from my iPad Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image005.png at 01CE8701.15794830] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Michael Weisner > wrote: I filter much of the spam that hits the list, usually 50-100 posts per day. This one got through because it came from a registered list user. The Rhodie's PC must have been infected or somehow compromised. I will remove the dangerous content from the archived message as soon as I have a moment to access the list server. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: Hey, Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-listFor the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list__________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Wed Mar 22 10:09:45 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:09:45 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca> <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <00a601d2a315$f581f060$e085d120$@ca> I had no idea that maintaining the list involved so much time on your part Michael. We all owe you a debt of gratitude. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Weisner Sent: March 21, 2017 8:02 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news I filter much of the spam that hits the list, usually 50-100 posts per day. This one got through because it came from a registered list user. The Rhodie's PC must have been infected or somehow compromised. I will remove the dangerous content from the archived message as soon as I have a moment to access the list server. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: > Hey, > > Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) > Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx > > Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Wed Mar 22 15:47:56 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:47:56 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] news In-Reply-To: <00a601d2a315$f581f060$e085d120$@ca> References: <1283732909.20170321195211@bex.net> <008c01d2a283$f7706740$e65135c0$@ca> <009b01d2a29f$965ca740$c315f5c0$@ebsmed.com> <00a601d2a315$f581f060$e085d120$@ca> Message-ID: <015201d2a345$34964560$9dc2d020$@ebsmed.com> Thank you everyone for your kind words of support. Hosting the list is a labor of love, as John Lock will tell you, since he has much more experience than I. Most of the spam is automatically caught by filter scripts leaving me to "enjoy" reading about purchasing some fantastic stock deal, buying life insurance from an unknown company, meeting a young lady who wants to show me photos that will explain why she is interested in an aging Rhodie, augmenting a body part to will surely impress my partner beyond belief or any other unbelievable offers by a creative spammer who has avoided my filters. Why anyone would open, read and respond to such a ridiculous waste of electrons is beyond me. March marks the end of my first year of hosting the rhodes22.org site and list. We have been using a "free tier" Amazon Web Services host which seems to work fairly well. The "free" portion is due to end this month. The costs to date have been $0.88 per month to regularly backup the site (nearly free). I have happily contributed to our cause. I will see what the costs rise to as we move into April. I do not expect the costs to be very significant and will continue to sponsor the list as long as I am able. Please accept my sincere thanks to all of you who have made my sailing experiences more enjoyable as part of this wonderful community of Rhodies, former Rhodies, future Rhodies (wannabees) and just plain nice folk who will wait for a gust of wind if only to move a few feet on the water. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:10 AM I had no idea that maintaining the list involved so much time on your part Michael. We all owe you a debt of gratitude. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Weisner Sent: March 21, 2017 8:02 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news I filter much of the spam that hits the list, usually 50-100 posts per day. This one got through because it came from a registered list user. The Rhodie's PC must have been infected or somehow compromised. I will remove the dangerous content from the archived message as soon as I have a moment to access the list server. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news John: This is off topic for Rhodes but the fact that we appear to have had some spam distributed makes me wonder why this hasn never occurred before that I can recall. I was operating a listserv for my office and had to abandon it entirely because of excessive spam that I was told by the provider could not be filtered out. How do you manage to keep the Rhodes list so clean? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock Sent: March 21, 2017 1:55 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List; Rhodes22-list Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] news Attention whoever owns rirwin at bex.net - looks like your email account has been hacked... -- Cheers! John Lock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22 Lake Sinclair, GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 2017-03-21 12:52, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org wrote: > Hey, > > Have you heard that awesome news? You just need to read it wright now) > Please take a look http://xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx > > Yours sincerely, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rweiss at siu.edu Sat Mar 25 09:12:35 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 06:12:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushion replacement for chair back Message-ID: <1490447555919-52958.post@n5.nabble.com> I uncovered my boat yesterday and cleaned and waxed it. This is the first year I had extra dirt from what I suspect was a raccoon in the cockpit that left muddy paw prints and other deposits, since I didn't let him use Stan's beautiful fully enclosed head. I also discovered that some critter managed to get into the aft locker and chew on the cushion of the back of one of my captain's chairs. (I guess I'll be storing those at home next year.) So, my question is: Where can I buy a replacement set of cushions? Has anyone replaced these? Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Cushion-replacement-for-chair-back-tp52958.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rweiss at siu.edu Sat Mar 25 10:00:26 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 07:00:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushion replacement for chair back In-Reply-To: <1490447555919-52958.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490447555919-52958.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1490450426695-52959.post@n5.nabble.com> A little further research suggests these are Proform seats and the cushions are "Proform upholstery onserts" I have found plenty of places to buy the whole seat, but can't find anyplace that sells just the upholstery onserts. Has anyone out there seen these? Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Cushion-replacement-for-chair-back-tp52958p52959.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From waldjh1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 10:35:29 2017 From: waldjh1 at gmail.com (John Waldhausen) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 07:35:29 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water Message-ID: <9E323D21-D0EF-4C3B-B36C-9A27DDCD70DB@gmail.com> Have any of you experienced water from the head in the bilge? The water is blue as is the deodorizer I put in the holding tank so I'm sure it's from the system. My daughter in law it's likely some valve I didn't turn properly but I'm assuming it's a leak. Any thoughts before I tear it apart would be appreciated. John Bainbridge Island From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 13:14:52 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:14:52 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water In-Reply-To: <9E323D21-D0EF-4C3B-B36C-9A27DDCD70DB@gmail.com> References: <9E323D21-D0EF-4C3B-B36C-9A27DDCD70DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: John, Try tightening all your hose clamps. Rick From waldjh1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 16:25:18 2017 From: waldjh1 at gmail.com (John Waldhausen) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:25:18 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water In-Reply-To: References: <9E323D21-D0EF-4C3B-B36C-9A27DDCD70DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: I found the issue. A cracked pipe at the bottom. I got it fixed. Thanks John Waldhausen > On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rick wrote: > > John, > > Try tightening all your hose clamps. > > Rick > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sat Mar 25 21:03:33 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:03:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water In-Reply-To: References: <9E323D21-D0EF-4C3B-B36C-9A27DDCD70DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006701d2a5cc$cb64ad90$622e08b0$@ebsmed.com> Was the cracked pipe the result of freezing temperatures (not sure where you are located)? If you experience freezing temps you need to winterize since the blue solution will freeze. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Waldhausen Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:25 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water I found the issue. A cracked pipe at the bottom. I got it fixed. Thanks John Waldhausen > On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rick wrote: > > John, > > Try tightening all your hose clamps. > > Rick > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From waldjh1 at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 10:59:35 2017 From: waldjh1 at gmail.com (John Waldhausen) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:59:35 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water In-Reply-To: <006701d2a5cc$cb64ad90$622e08b0$@ebsmed.com> References: <9E323D21-D0EF-4C3B-B36C-9A27DDCD70DB@gmail.com> <006701d2a5cc$cb64ad90$622e08b0$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <4A3FD9D5-3919-405E-A583-956069C05E86@gmail.com> Probably. I winterized the rest of the boat and think I forgot to put antifreeze in the holding tank and head. John Waldhausen > On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Michael Weisner wrote: > > Was the cracked pipe the result of freezing temperatures (not sure where you > are located)? If you experience freezing temps you need to winterize since > the blue solution will freeze. > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of > John Waldhausen > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:25 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Toilet water > > I found the issue. A cracked pipe at the bottom. I got it fixed. Thanks > > John Waldhausen > >> On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rick wrote: >> >> John, >> >> Try tightening all your hose clamps. >> >> Rick >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From jayf401 at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 11:44:06 2017 From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 11:44:06 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushion replacement for chair back In-Reply-To: <1490450426695-52959.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490447555919-52958.post@n5.nabble.com> <1490450426695-52959.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4C91E130-D43E-4E7A-A18F-A767E084DF5F@verizon.net> Robert, try- Dave Stevens Technical call center rep Attwood Corporation 616-897-2303 david.stevens at attwoodmarine.com He?s helped me in the past. He?ll need color only if you?ve identified the seat. Jay Friedland S/V Wanderlust ?97 > On Mar 25, 2017, at 10:00 AM, rweiss wrote: > > A little further research suggests these are Proform seats and the cushions > are "Proform upholstery onserts" I have found plenty of places to buy the > whole seat, but can't find anyplace that sells just the upholstery onserts. > Has anyone out there seen these? > Bob > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Cushion-replacement-for-chair-back-tp52958p52959.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From rweiss at siu.edu Mon Mar 27 09:38:59 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 06:38:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushion replacement for chair back In-Reply-To: <4C91E130-D43E-4E7A-A18F-A767E084DF5F@verizon.net> References: <1490447555919-52958.post@n5.nabble.com> <1490450426695-52959.post@n5.nabble.com> <4C91E130-D43E-4E7A-A18F-A767E084DF5F@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1490621939673-52966.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks Jay. I received a reply from Dave Stevens this morning and instructions on how to order the onsets from him. You have saved me a lot of money. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Cushion-replacement-for-chair-back-tp52958p52966.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jayf401 at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 16:42:38 2017 From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:42:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushion replacement for chair back In-Reply-To: <1490621939673-52966.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490447555919-52958.post@n5.nabble.com> <1490450426695-52959.post@n5.nabble.com> <4C91E130-D43E-4E7A-A18F-A767E084DF5F@verizon.net> <1490621939673-52966.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <38F5F819-53EC-43EF-BC50-D3ACEB8D3A63@gmail.com> That?s why we?re all here (20 years & counting). Jay > On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:38 AM, rweiss wrote: > > Thanks Jay. I received a reply from Dave Stevens this morning and > instructions on how to order the onsets from him. You have saved me a lot of > money. > > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Cushion-replacement-for-chair-back-tp52958p52966.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From Colealexander at hotmail.com Mon Mar 27 22:24:41 2017 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 19:24:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489782175792-52944.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489782175792-52944.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1490667881075-52968.post@n5.nabble.com> Sounds like perfect weather for the Rhodes 22, light winds and fairly flat water. LWL and depth of ballast mattered less then sail area : wetted surface. I noticed that in the Abermarle, pacing myself against some large boats trying to race in light wind. Of course I was off the course running a parallel, so my lack of tactics didn't matter. Wonderful video. I'd love to see more, especially the Rhodes at various points of sail and heel, to try to visualize what it is doing from a vantage besides the cockpit. Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52968.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rweiss at siu.edu Tue Mar 28 19:35:13 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:35:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furling tube problem Message-ID: <1490744113830-52969.post@n5.nabble.com> I have a 175% Genoa that I took off for the winter. When I went to put it on today, I was unable to pull it all the way up because part of the plastic furling tube that is secured with screws is warped and pulled apart in two places. The lower one (pictured) is not a problem and the sail gets by it, but one a little farther up has a lower piece pulled away, so the sail doesn't stay in the slot and sticks there. I'll attach a photo which is of the lower piece since that is the only one I could get a decent shot of. if you picture the same kind of problem but with the bottom side sticking out, that is where my problem is. So, I guess I plan to take the mast down this weekend and try to repair the furling tube. Anyone else had this problem? Is there something I should do beside try to replace the screw that has obviously pulled out? Would it help to try to glue something on the side to hold the warped piece in place? If so, do you have any suggestions for kind of glue to use? Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/furling-tube-problem-tp52969.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From hgamblejr at usa.net Tue Mar 28 21:36:34 2017 From: hgamblejr at usa.net (harry gamble) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sale Message-ID: <454VcCBjI9552S01.1490751394@web01.cms.usa.net> I posted my interest in selling my Rhodes recently. After considering all factors I've decided to keep it. Thank you to those who expressed an interest. And a special thanks to Cande ad Don Simons who helped explain the mast hoist system to me. Harry From rweiss at siu.edu Wed Mar 29 12:00:09 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:00:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system Message-ID: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Wed Mar 29 12:04:30 2017 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:04:30 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Take your time and follow ALL the instructions. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of rweiss Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Wed Mar 29 12:06:01 2017 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:06:01 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Next t, w, th is open Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of rweiss Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Wed Mar 29 12:11:55 2017 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:11:55 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <862FC3E6-1861-4872-B83B-E16BF88116AE@sunnybeeches.com> I think the instructions say this in all caps, but I once managed to forget anyway. Before you begin to lower, put the pop-top down, and DISCONNECT THE POP-TOP FROM THE MAST. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:00 PM, rweiss wrote: > > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa > furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have > never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced > mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From blue66corvette at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 12:12:37 2017 From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:12:37 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com>, Message-ID: Bob Go to sailingtexas.com In the gallery for boats under the Rhodes 22 page there are a couple of videos from David Culp showing him using the hoist system the first time he raised his mast. It works great. I now own that boat (bought from David several years ago) and the system still works great. But I leave the boat in the water with the mast up almost all the time, it's easier to sail that way ;-) Sent from my iPhone Charles Nieman s/v Daydream 98 R 22 Arlington Texas > On Mar 29, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > > Take your time and follow ALL the instructions. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of rweiss > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system > > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 12:34:05 2017 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:34:05 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Peter's advice on the pop-top is very important. Be aware of where the wind is coming from and if you have another person with you it is handy to have them help guide the mast into the cradle by tugging on the side-stays if you get off the drop trajectory. It is an easy one-man job once you've done it a couple of times Cheers ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: > Bob > Go to sailingtexas.com > > In the gallery for boats under the Rhodes 22 page there are a couple of > videos from David Culp showing him using the hoist system the first time he > raised his mast. It works great. I now own that boat (bought from David > several years ago) and the system still works great. But I leave the boat > in the water with the mast up almost all the time, it's easier to sail that > way ;-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > Charles Nieman > s/v Daydream > 98 R 22 > Arlington Texas > > > On Mar 29, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Chris Cowie > wrote: > > > > Take your time and follow ALL the instructions. > > > > Christopher P. Cowie > > > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > > Suite 300 > > Washington, DC 20007 > > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf Of rweiss > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system > > > > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa > furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have > never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced > mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > Bob Weiss > > Beach Spring > > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > > -- > > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ > ____________________ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From rweiss at siu.edu Wed Mar 29 12:46:04 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:46:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1490805964596-52977.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks for the advice. I also finally found some great step by step photos on a Facebook page: Shawn Boles Page Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52977.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From borderfolle at yahoo.com Wed Mar 29 12:55:04 2017 From: borderfolle at yahoo.com (Donald Simons) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490805964596-52977.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <1490805964596-52977.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <797493662.6461375.1490806505002@mail.yahoo.com> I know that this may seem obvious, but be sure to check for overhead wires. Don SimonsIthaca, NY From: rweiss To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system Thanks for the advice. I also finally found some great step by step photos on a Facebook page: Shawn Boles Page ? Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52977.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From melrothbard at yahoo.com Wed Mar 29 13:45:23 2017 From: melrothbard at yahoo.com (Melvyn Rothbard) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 17:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> BobI have used the mast system for about 7 years . ?It works well. ?My advice would be to have Stan's instructions close by, read them at least twice and follow the instruction carefully. If you do that you will be fine. ?One of the most important instructions is if the winch gets very tight and hard to crank. stop and see what it is binding up on. ?Good Luck. Mel Rothbard?Melvyn H. Rothbard Attorney at Law Suite 3C 23 South 23rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 215 901 2258 Fax: 215 656 0993 melrothbard at yahoo.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information and/or documents included in or accompanying this transmission contain(s) confidential information belonging to the sender which is legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e mail in error, please delete this message and immediately notify us by replying to this e mail or telephoning us at 215 901 2258. On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM, rweiss wrote: I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions.? Thanks. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rweiss at siu.edu Wed Mar 29 13:57:04 2017 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:57:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock where the mast won't interfere with other boats. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From blue66corvette at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 13:58:17 2017 From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 17:58:17 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com>, <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: While Mel is very correct; I have often heard questionable things about Philadelphia Lawyers ;-) Sent from my iPhone Charles > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Melvyn Rothbard via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > BobI have used the mast system for about 7 years . It works well. My advice would be to have Stan's instructions close by, read them at least twice and follow the instruction carefully. If you do that you will be fine. One of the most important instructions is if the winch gets very tight and hard to crank. stop and see what it is binding up on. Good Luck. > Mel Rothbard Melvyn H. Rothbard Attorney at Law Suite 3C 23 South 23rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 215 901 2258 Fax: 215 656 0993 melrothbard at yahoo.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information and/or documents included in or accompanying this transmission contain(s) confidential information belonging to the sender which is legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e mail in error, please delete this message and immediately notify us by replying to this e mail or telephoning us at 215 901 2258. > > On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM, rweiss wrote: > > > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa > furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have > never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced > mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From blue66corvette at hotmail.com Wed Mar 29 14:00:08 2017 From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:00:08 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com>, <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Bob The only question about doing it on the water (and yes I have) is you are never certain what you hear go "plunk" into the lake during the process. Sent from my iPhone Charles > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:57 PM, rweiss wrote: > > One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this > process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this > with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower > the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I > plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock > where the mast won't interfere with other boats. > > Bob > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From marlangreen at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 14:11:10 2017 From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:11:10 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would add/re-emphasize: Go slow. Check everything 2, 3, 6, & 10 times at each step in the process and one more time before lowering or raising. Never force anything in the process. Do *NOT *let others distract you from the task at hand. Remain focused and check yourself. If you want someone to help double check. Have them do their own check independent of you and then compare notes. That being said, it's really easy once you do it the first time. After that it's a breeze. :-) Marlan s/v Nautisaurus Rhode River, Mayo, MD On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Melvyn Rothbard via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > BobI have used the mast system for about 7 years . It works well. My > advice would be to have Stan's instructions close by, read them at least > twice and follow the instruction carefully. If you do that you will be > fine. One of the most important instructions is if the winch gets very > tight and hard to crank. stop and see what it is binding up on. Good Luck. > Mel Rothbard Melvyn H. Rothbard Attorney at Law Suite 3C 23 South 23rd > Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 215 901 2258 Fax: 215 656 0993 > melrothbard at yahoo.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information and/or > documents included in or accompanying this transmission contain(s) > confidential information belonging to the sender which is legally > privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity to whom it was sent as indicated above. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this > transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e mail in > error, please delete this message and immediately notify us by replying to > this e mail or telephoning us at 215 901 2258. > > On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM, rweiss wrote: > > > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa > furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have > never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced > mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From rlowe at vt.edu Wed Mar 29 14:19:41 2017 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:19:41 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <7b7462c133ae4abd845db7ad1002b39e@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> Bob, You can do it on the water, just makes it a bit more of a challenge because the boat will rock. Do you have the mast crutch to catch the mast too? Make sure it's good and secure. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of rweiss Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:57 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock where the mast won't interfere with other boats. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rlowe at vt.edu Wed Mar 29 14:30:10 2017 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:30:10 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <11e4ab674bb74cdfbe0a7173422b67af@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> Bob, Also make sure you understand how the extender chains hook to the forward inner stays and how the aft inner stays hook to the winch. You cannot lower the mast with the forward inner stays connected as is. you must either use the extender chains or disconnect the forward inners. - Rob -----Original Message----- From: Lowe, Rob Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:20 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system Bob, You can do it on the water, just makes it a bit more of a challenge because the boat will rock. Do you have the mast crutch to catch the mast too? Make sure it's good and secure. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of rweiss Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:57 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock where the mast won't interfere with other boats. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From melrothbard at yahoo.com Wed Mar 29 15:30:31 2017 From: melrothbard at yahoo.com (Melvyn Rothbard) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1020470968.553373.1490815831998@mail.yahoo.com> Bob:I do not have a trailer either. ?I do it in water from my dock. ?It helps to have the boat broadside to the dock. ?Also, Stan's tip about taping the back stays to your back rails really helps keeping the wires out of the water (not to tight). ?Also make sure all of the stays and shrouds are free and untangled good luck Mel Rothbard?Melvyn H. Rothbard Attorney at Law Suite 3C 23 South 23rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 215 901 2258 Fax: 215 656 0993 melrothbard at yahoo.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information and/or documents included in or accompanying this transmission contain(s) confidential information belonging to the sender which is legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e mail in error, please delete this message and immediately notify us by replying to this e mail or telephoning us at 215 901 2258. On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:57 PM, rweiss wrote: One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock where the mast won't interfere with other boats. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From melrothbard at yahoo.com Wed Mar 29 15:32:09 2017 From: melrothbard at yahoo.com (Melvyn Rothbard) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <222300669.544612.1490815929684@mail.yahoo.com> Charles:I have heard the same stories. ?Probably a lot of truth to them. Mel?Melvyn H. Rothbard Attorney at Law Suite 3C 23 South 23rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 215 901 2258 Fax: 215 656 0993 melrothbard at yahoo.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information and/or documents included in or accompanying this transmission contain(s) confidential information belonging to the sender which is legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e mail in error, please delete this message and immediately notify us by replying to this e mail or telephoning us at 215 901 2258. On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:00 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: Bob The only question about doing it on the water (and yes I have) is you are never certain what you hear go "plunk" into the lake during the process. Sent from my iPhone Charles > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:57 PM, rweiss wrote: > > One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this > process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this > with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower > the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I > plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock > where the mast won't interfere with other boats. > > Bob > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From bmackey at charter.net Wed Mar 29 17:55:03 2017 From: bmackey at charter.net (Bruce Mackey) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 17:55:03 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <11e4ab674bb74cdfbe0a7173422b67af@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> <11e4ab674bb74cdfbe0a7173422b67af@MARCONI.cc.w2k.vt.edu> Message-ID: <00a101d2a8d7$1efda4e0$5cf8eea0$@charter.net> I'm not so sure about disconnecting the forward shrouds. Once you have the mast up, I recommend you make sure the chains are removed and the shrouds connected securely without the chains while the winch is locked. Then you can release the winch and set the jib. Really pay attention to the order of the steps here. Once the chains are removed and the shrouds reconnected without them, the mast is secure (assuming the winch and back stays are in place.) If you forget to remove the chains and reconnect, the mast can come crashing down when you release the winch. You don't need to ask how I know. Bruce s/v Tuxedo Traverse City -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:30 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system Bob, Also make sure you understand how the extender chains hook to the forward inner stays and how the aft inner stays hook to the winch. You cannot lower the mast with the forward inner stays connected as is. you must either use the extender chains or disconnect the forward inners. - Rob -----Original Message----- From: Lowe, Rob Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:20 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system Bob, You can do it on the water, just makes it a bit more of a challenge because the boat will rock. Do you have the mast crutch to catch the mast too? Make sure it's good and secure. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of rweiss Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:57 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show this process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to lower the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of dock where the mast won't interfere with other boats. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-s ystem-tp52971p52980.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From jcbblackb at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 18:02:03 2017 From: jcbblackb at gmail.com (John Blackburn) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:02:03 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Bob, One area I had and issue with last year is the block on the cabin top that the winch attaches to. Mine came off when I was about 2/3 of the way up. It only slides so far due to the rope that is attached to the bow -still scary. My guess was the bolts that hold the block to the bolt had loosened - I bought longer ones and reattached with some epoxy underneath and seems fine now. So you might want to check that the bolts that secure the block are tight. Regards John Blackburn Snow Hill Md. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:00 PM, rweiss wrote: > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa > furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I have > never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you experienced > mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 19:08:34 2017 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:08:34 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490805964596-52977.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <1490805964596-52977.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I forgot I posted these pics of mast raising on Facebook. Just old ,I guess. Thanks to Bob for reminding me. Mark the chain link that let's you raise/lower while maintaining lateral stability. AFT shrouds to winch - Chains to FORE shrouds then connected to chainplates before raising/lowering Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Mar 29, 2017 9:46 AM, "rweiss" wrote: Thanks for the advice. I also finally found some great step by step photos on a Facebook page: Shawn Boles Page Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52977.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Wed Mar 29 19:56:34 2017 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:56:34 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <1490805964596-52977.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: In the 18 years we owned Fretless we raised and lowered the mast twice a year, once at the beginning and once at the end of the season, sometimes and additional time in the side yard in the springtime plus a few other times for repairs, hauling the boat for storms and the like. It was enough so we sort of knew what we were doing but we always followed the step by step instructions carefully. A couple of bits of advice. We always found it helpful to continually ask ourselves "what is holding the mast up?" as we moved on to the next step. And make sure the cabin top sliding hatch is in the closed position. If it is not, the forward edge will act as a fulcrum for a very large lever fully capable of prying the mast-step up. This is the voice of experience. Fortunately it's an easy fix. Best of luck with your repairs. Mary Lou formerly R22 Fretless now Rosborough RF-246 Tara On 3/29/2017 7:08 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: > I forgot I posted these pics of mast raising on Facebook. Just old ,I > guess. Thanks to Bob for reminding me. > > Mark the chain link that let's you raise/lower while maintaining lateral > stability. > > AFT shrouds to winch - Chains to FORE shrouds then connected to > chainplates before raising/lowering > > > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > > > On Mar 29, 2017 9:46 AM, "rweiss" wrote: > > Thanks for the advice. I also finally found some great step by step photos > on > a Facebook page: > Shawn Boles Page > 10151299606977141.487706.593022140&type=1&l=41f7dc116a> > > Bob > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52977.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From cjlowe at sssnet.com Wed Mar 29 20:51:07 2017 From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe at sssnet.com) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 20:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> <201174808.468475.1490809523782@mail.yahoo.com> <1490810224623-52980.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <49780.24.140.30.102.1490835067.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com> All very good suggestions. I might add, just before starting to crank the winch to lower, check the surrounding water for vessels that could throw a wake and ruin your day. On the same note as anything dropped , belongs to Davey Jones , watch the tubes from the mast to the upper stays. They should be held fast by a screw on the bracket on the mast, but maybe not. Just watch they don't fall out . If When your almost all the way down with the mast , and the lower shrouds get tight and the winch gets easy,before the mast rests in the crutch. You either picked the wrong link on the extender or didn't loosen up the turnbuckles enough. On my boat , I have to loosen the turnbuckles about eight turns to get the correct length to land in the crutch just right. Two years ago , I got tired of messing with the turnbuckles and made a pair of spring- loaded extender brackets that let the shrouds tighten when the mast gets about a foot above the crutch , as the springs compress, it holds the mast centered as it falls into the crutch. Take your time and be safe. Jerry Lowe One more related question -- the photos and video I have seen all show > this > process being done on the trailer. Is there any reason why I can't do this > with the boat in the water? I don't have a trailer and I just plan to > lower > the mast, repair the furling tube and then crank the mast right back up. I > plan to take the boat out of my slip and move it to a longer section of > dock > where the mast won't interfere with other boats. > > Bob > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: > http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971p52980.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From mweisner at ebsmed.com Wed Mar 29 21:39:24 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 21:39:24 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast with Stan's hoist system In-Reply-To: References: <1490803209562-52971.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <02f301d2a8f6$77dc6780$67953680$@ebsmed.com> On the subject of strength of the crane system, please be sure that the winch line is secured well, on both ends, and that the deck cleat is firmly attached to the deck. When the mast is below 40 degrees from horizontal the winch is carrying the greatest load. It is at this point that the system is most vulnerable. I have always felt better hoisting the mast than lowering for the simple reason that if the winch line has any trouble initially on the way up, you just settle the mast back down into the crutch. When lowering the mast, you are committed to move quickly if you encounter issues to securely find the crutch while avoiding unnecessary sideways movement of the mast. I have found that a pair of lightweight lines tied to the outer upper shrouds, about 6 feet above the deck, can be used as a pair of reins to steer the mast when necessary. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Blackburn Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 6:02 PM Bob, One area I had and issue with last year is the block on the cabin top that the winch attaches to. Mine came off when I was about 2/3 of the way up. It only slides so far due to the rope that is attached to the bow -still scary. My guess was the bolts that hold the block to the bolt had loosened - I bought longer ones and reattached with some epoxy underneath and seems fine now. So you might want to check that the bolts that secure the block are tight. Regards John Blackburn Snow Hill Md. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:00 PM, rweiss wrote: > I'm planning to lower my mast this weekend in order to repair my Genoa > furling tube. I have Stan's Hoist system and instructions, but since I > have never attempted this task, I thought I would ask if any of you > experienced mast movers have any advice beyond reading Stan's instructions. Thanks. > Bob > > > > > ----- > Bob Weiss > Beach Spring > 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Lowering-the-mast-with-Stan-s-hoist-system-tp52971.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From jefferson at iteract.ca Thu Mar 30 07:40:56 2017 From: jefferson at iteract.ca (Jefferson Lewis) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 04:40:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing In-Reply-To: <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1489601865872-52926.post@n5.nabble.com> <1489605523651-52928.post@n5.nabble.com> <50199160-daeb-05ef-73f6-d671eac45656@rhodes22.com> <7898cc0e-ff03-8fd1-978f-6103a2c747a2@rhodes22.com> <00d101d29e6d$74f8ec20$5eeac460$@ebsmed.com> <1489689908044-52937.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1490874056280-52994.post@n5.nabble.com> Congratulations - and great drone footage!!! You'll inspire the rest of us. Jefferson ----- Jefferson Lewis SV Patience 1976 Lake Memphremagog, Quebec -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Racing-tp52926p52994.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.