From rweiss at siu.edu  Mon Jan  8 17:52:27 2018
From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:52:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Small Craft Advisor article on Stan - finally
Message-ID: <1515451947781-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I had heard this was coming and it finally is here -- an article in Small
Craft Advisor about Stan Spitzer. "A Conversation with Stan Spitzer: Sailor,
Builder, Entrepreneur" by Jerry Thompson is in the January/February copy of
my favorite magazine. For those of you who know Stan, there is not much new
here. But it is nice to see Stan get some publicity and the opportunity for
non-Rhodies to find out about the legend.

Bob



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Beach Spring
1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  8 22:50:32 2018
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 20:50:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Small Craft Advisor article on Stan - finally
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Glad to hear.    

Alex




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S/V Lark
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From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  9 19:57:24 2018
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:57:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Polars
Message-ID: <1515545844508-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Not to get too scientific, especially about a topic I barely understand.  
But when I tried to put a few miles on Michigan I realized I was really
guessing on how far off course I should go in order to get there in time get
there a little faster (reach vs run, I waited a day to avoid the beat).   
What advice does da list have?   Waves are a big factor in our small boat I
believe.  

Alex Cole



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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Wed Jan 10 14:07:55 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:07:55 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Polars
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Alex,

As a rule of thumb, a reach is fastest.  On either a reach or run, just
head straight to your waypoint.

Rick

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Jan 19 11:00:06 2018
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:00:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
Message-ID: <001801d3913e$94355780$bca00680$@ebsmed.com>

Just testing

 

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

 

 


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Fri Jan 19 11:06:26 2018
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:06:26 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
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I?m here! 
I?m just beginning to rebuild the trailer I bought from you almost 2 years ago. 
its a much larger project than I thought. 
I have to replace the entire undercarriage and rebuild the front end and extension bar.
It will be a great addition to my R22 package when its done though. 
Ric 
sv Dadventure 
Hampton bays, NY 



Richard Stott
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 



> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> Just testing
> 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> 
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 11:10:23 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:10:23 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
In-Reply-To: <001801d3913e$94355780$bca00680$@ebsmed.com>
References: <001801d3913e$94355780$bca00680$@ebsmed.com>
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Happy New Year!

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Jan 19 11:33:28 2018
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:33:28 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
In-Reply-To: <D4EA9EEA-6E56-4C6C-A1B1-8F026A83C193@stottarchitecture.com>
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 <D4EA9EEA-6E56-4C6C-A1B1-8F026A83C193@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <002201d39143$3d7572e0$b86058a0$@ebsmed.com>

I rebuilt another Triad trailer about 10 years ago that I sold with my 1981 Rhodes.  The extension tube bent while hauling the boat, as I ascended the ramp.  I thought that I would lose the trailer and load.  I kept moving until I was on level ground and I was able to use the weight of the boat to bend it back enough to insert the tongue into the trailer.  It had rusted away at the far end and the stresses of hauling caused it to deform.

I was able to purchase a 20' length of 2x2 bar stock from a supplier in Stony Brook to replace the extension tongue.  I cut it to about 12' (I always wanted another foot or two to keep my vehicle out of the salt water) and added a bolt-on coupler from Walmart.  The toughest part of the job was cutting and drilling the 2x2 stock.  It worked great!

I never had issues with the undercarriage or frame.  The only other problems that I had was that the horizontal piece connecting the right and left sides, under the roller, rusted away.  I was able to have a shop weld additional flat stock and reweld the rod stock that connected the bunks to the frame.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:06 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet

I?m here! 
I?m just beginning to rebuild the trailer I bought from you almost 2 years ago. 
its a much larger project than I thought. 
I have to replace the entire undercarriage and rebuild the front end and extension bar.
It will be a great addition to my R22 package when its done though. 
Ric
sv Dadventure
Hampton bays, NY 



Richard Stott
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 



> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> Just testing
> 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> 
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Fri Jan 19 12:13:59 2018
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:13:59 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
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References: <001801d3913e$94355780$bca00680$@ebsmed.com>
 <D4EA9EEA-6E56-4C6C-A1B1-8F026A83C193@stottarchitecture.com>
 <002201d39143$3d7572e0$b86058a0$@ebsmed.com>
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Thanks MIke
I hope to have the re-built trailer ready for spring launch.
The extension tube was rusted severely. 
It was an engineering challenge to get it free from the housing, and I was considering replacing it - with your comments on record, that?s on the list now too. 
Another item I?ve been wonting to replace, but haven?t gotten around to, is the motor lift. 
The original '84 lift does not extend high enough to pull the prop clear of the water and I have to tilt the motor to its max position while underway and I?m often alone.
I?m still pretty agile, but that?s not easy.  
I want a manual  lift of Stan?s design the accommodates my extra long shaft 8HP.   (I don?t like the electric ones I?ve seen)
I  spoke to Stan a couple years ago. For reasons never clear to me,  he was reluctant to sell me one or the parts, unless the boat was down there.
I also want to re-configure the stern rail so there is break in the top rail where the ladder lifts.
Climbing aboard from the beach, over the top of the rail, especially with the new traveller in the way, requires gymnastics that my wife refuses to to accept. 
I really like Stan?s modern design with the curved rail and seats, but do?t want to spend the money on an entirely new stern rail. 
Do you know anyone near the east end that could help with that?   A traveling TIG welder? 
 
I?ll send some pics of the trailer when it?s  done. 
Ric 
s/v Dadventure 


Richard Stott
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 



> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> I rebuilt another Triad trailer about 10 years ago that I sold with my 1981 Rhodes.  The extension tube bent while hauling the boat, as I ascended the ramp.  I thought that I would lose the trailer and load.  I kept moving until I was on level ground and I was able to use the weight of the boat to bend it back enough to insert the tongue into the trailer.  It had rusted away at the far end and the stresses of hauling caused it to deform.
> 
> I was able to purchase a 20' length of 2x2 bar stock from a supplier in Stony Brook to replace the extension tongue.  I cut it to about 12' (I always wanted another foot or two to keep my vehicle out of the salt water) and added a bolt-on coupler from Walmart.  The toughest part of the job was cutting and drilling the 2x2 stock.  It worked great!
> 
> I never had issues with the undercarriage or frame.  The only other problems that I had was that the horizontal piece connecting the right and left sides, under the roller, rusted away.  I was able to have a shop weld additional flat stock and reweld the rod stock that connected the bunks to the frame.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:06 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
> 
> I?m here! 
> I?m just beginning to rebuild the trailer I bought from you almost 2 years ago. 
> its a much larger project than I thought. 
> I have to replace the entire undercarriage and rebuild the front end and extension bar.
> It will be a great addition to my R22 package when its done though. 
> Ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton bays, NY 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Stott
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office	631-283-1777
> Cell		516-965-3164 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Just testing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> 
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>> __________________________________________________
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> 
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From chitakcheung at gmail.com  Sun Jan 21 20:52:26 2018
From: chitakcheung at gmail.com (Patrick Cheung)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 20:52:26 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
In-Reply-To: <CE448773-5229-43CF-B46D-D86147303E23@stottarchitecture.com>
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Hi Richard,
Do you mind sharing how you separate the extension tube from housing.
Thank you in advance.

Patrick
S/V Duck


> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks MIke
> I hope to have the re-built trailer ready for spring launch.
> The extension tube was rusted severely. 
> It was an engineering challenge to get it free from the housing, and I was considering replacing it - with your comments on record, that?s on the list now too. 
> Another item I?ve been wonting to replace, but haven?t gotten around to, is the motor lift. 
> The original '84 lift does not extend high enough to pull the prop clear of the water and I have to tilt the motor to its max position while underway and I?m often alone.
> I?m still pretty agile, but that?s not easy.  
> I want a manual  lift of Stan?s design the accommodates my extra long shaft 8HP.   (I don?t like the electric ones I?ve seen)
> I  spoke to Stan a couple years ago. For reasons never clear to me,  he was reluctant to sell me one or the parts, unless the boat was down there.
> I also want to re-configure the stern rail so there is break in the top rail where the ladder lifts.
> Climbing aboard from the beach, over the top of the rail, especially with the new traveller in the way, requires gymnastics that my wife refuses to to accept. 
> I really like Stan?s modern design with the curved rail and seats, but do?t want to spend the money on an entirely new stern rail. 
> Do you know anyone near the east end that could help with that?   A traveling TIG welder? 
> 
> I?ll send some pics of the trailer when it?s  done. 
> Ric 
> s/v Dadventure 
> 
> 
> Richard Stott
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office    631-283-1777
> Cell        516-965-3164 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I rebuilt another Triad trailer about 10 years ago that I sold with my 1981 Rhodes.  The extension tube bent while hauling the boat, as I ascended the ramp.  I thought that I would lose the trailer and load.  I kept moving until I was on level ground and I was able to use the weight of the boat to bend it back enough to insert the tongue into the trailer.  It had rusted away at the far end and the stresses of hauling caused it to deform.
>> 
>> I was able to purchase a 20' length of 2x2 bar stock from a supplier in Stony Brook to replace the extension tongue.  I cut it to about 12' (I always wanted another foot or two to keep my vehicle out of the salt water) and added a bolt-on coupler from Walmart.  The toughest part of the job was cutting and drilling the 2x2 stock.  It worked great!
>> 
>> I never had issues with the undercarriage or frame.  The only other problems that I had was that the horizontal piece connecting the right and left sides, under the roller, rusted away.  I was able to have a shop weld additional flat stock and reweld the rod stock that connected the bunks to the frame.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:06 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
>> 
>> I?m here! 
>> I?m just beginning to rebuild the trailer I bought from you almost 2 years ago. 
>> its a much larger project than I thought. 
>> I have to replace the entire undercarriage and rebuild the front end and extension bar.
>> It will be a great addition to my R22 package when its done though. 
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton bays, NY 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Stott
>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>> Office    631-283-1777
>> Cell        516-965-3164 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just testing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>> 
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>> __________________________________________________
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jan 22 07:59:07 2018
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 07:59:07 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
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Sure - I hooked a 3000# come-along to the neck(housing) of the tube. I forget how, I might have used a small piece of chain. Then attached the extended come along to an ?s?hook toward the end of the 2x2 tube and began to put some pull pressure on. With tension on it, I heated the housing, banged, scraped, pulled, banged, heated and so on. After about 20 minutes of high pressure and persuasion, the tube began to move. Once it move about 12 inches it was free and slid easily. 
Check the bottom of the housing. Mine was rusted through and I cut some of the heavy rust off with a 4? grinder.  
Good luck
Ric
S/v Dadventure

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Do you mind sharing how you separate the extension tube from housing.
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Patrick
> S/V Duck
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks MIke
>> I hope to have the re-built trailer ready for spring launch.
>> The extension tube was rusted severely. 
>> It was an engineering challenge to get it free from the housing, and I was considering replacing it - with your comments on record, that?s on the list now too. 
>> Another item I?ve been wonting to replace, but haven?t gotten around to, is the motor lift. 
>> The original '84 lift does not extend high enough to pull the prop clear of the water and I have to tilt the motor to its max position while underway and I?m often alone.
>> I?m still pretty agile, but that?s not easy.  
>> I want a manual  lift of Stan?s design the accommodates my extra long shaft 8HP.   (I don?t like the electric ones I?ve seen)
>> I  spoke to Stan a couple years ago. For reasons never clear to me,  he was reluctant to sell me one or the parts, unless the boat was down there.
>> I also want to re-configure the stern rail so there is break in the top rail where the ladder lifts.
>> Climbing aboard from the beach, over the top of the rail, especially with the new traveller in the way, requires gymnastics that my wife refuses to to accept. 
>> I really like Stan?s modern design with the curved rail and seats, but do?t want to spend the money on an entirely new stern rail. 
>> Do you know anyone near the east end that could help with that?   A traveling TIG welder? 
>> 
>> I?ll send some pics of the trailer when it?s  done. 
>> Ric 
>> s/v Dadventure 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Stott
>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>> Office    631-283-1777
>> Cell        516-965-3164 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I rebuilt another Triad trailer about 10 years ago that I sold with my 1981 Rhodes.  The extension tube bent while hauling the boat, as I ascended the ramp.  I thought that I would lose the trailer and load.  I kept moving until I was on level ground and I was able to use the weight of the boat to bend it back enough to insert the tongue into the trailer.  It had rusted away at the far end and the stresses of hauling caused it to deform.
>>> 
>>> I was able to purchase a 20' length of 2x2 bar stock from a supplier in Stony Brook to replace the extension tongue.  I cut it to about 12' (I always wanted another foot or two to keep my vehicle out of the salt water) and added a bolt-on coupler from Walmart.  The toughest part of the job was cutting and drilling the 2x2 stock.  It worked great!
>>> 
>>> I never had issues with the undercarriage or frame.  The only other problems that I had was that the horizontal piece connecting the right and left sides, under the roller, rusted away.  I was able to have a shop weld additional flat stock and reweld the rod stock that connected the bunks to the frame.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stott
>>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:06 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The list has been very quiet
>>> 
>>> I?m here! 
>>> I?m just beginning to rebuild the trailer I bought from you almost 2 years ago. 
>>> its a much larger project than I thought. 
>>> I have to replace the entire undercarriage and rebuild the front end and extension bar.
>>> It will be a great addition to my R22 package when its done though. 
>>> Ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> Hampton bays, NY 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard Stott
>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>> Office    631-283-1777
>>> Cell        516-965-3164 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just testing
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>>> 
>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to 
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives 
>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Mon Jan 22 10:56:00 2018
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:56:00 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motor lift winch
Message-ID: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Anyone have a source for the winch used on the electric motor lift?  Mine is crapped out and needs replacing.  I thought it was the reversing switch, but I replaced it.  thanks - rob


From eandsmoore at hughes.net  Mon Jan 22 11:50:52 2018
From: eandsmoore at hughes.net (Ellyn and Sam Moore)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:52 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motor lift winch
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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I think it?s Harbor Freight # 61840, 12V.w/remote.
Sam Moore, ?77 Rhodes Continental, Rhodester


> On Jan 22, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> 
> Anyone have a source for the winch used on the electric motor lift?  Mine is crapped out and needs replacing.  I thought it was the reversing switch, but I replaced it.  thanks - rob
> 
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Jan 22 22:08:17 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:08:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <B6C200FA-8DA0-46C7-B429-4F5063AB0592@hughes.net>
References: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <B6C200FA-8DA0-46C7-B429-4F5063AB0592@hughes.net>
Message-ID: <909E5254-D0C8-4055-858A-9EB2B4C3AB9A@sunnybeeches.com>

Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.

Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)

It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.

Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.

I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.  

There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.

As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.  

My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.

But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.

When does the ice thaw?

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)



From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon Jan 22 23:00:09 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:00:09 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <909E5254-D0C8-4055-858A-9EB2B4C3AB9A@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <B6C200FA-8DA0-46C7-B429-4F5063AB0592@hughes.net>
 <909E5254-D0C8-4055-858A-9EB2B4C3AB9A@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <a978a21d-cdf5-02fc-f189-ca6361261677@atlanticbb.net>

Hi Peter,

We were one of the original participants in that discussion. We have 
since sold Fretless (and gone over to the dark side) but we did order 
the UPS sail and used it off and on for more than 10 years.

It was a wonderfully fun, forgiving sail to play with. It did take some 
additional effort to get it set up each time you used it, more effort 
than we laid back Rhodies with our furling sails were used to (halyards? 
what are they? ;-) )? You couldn't leave it set up all the time but 
rather had to attach the halyards, run the sheets and hoist it each time 
you wanted to use it.

That said, we enjoyed using it when conditions were right and we had the 
time to play with it. It cannot be used to point as high as a regular 
genoa but was good for anything from a reach to dead downwind. You could 
sail above a beam reach in winds from 3-4 knots to somewhere around 7 or 
8 knots though that might have been pushing it a bit. Off the wind it 
was good for a little more wind. The sail fabric is more like a 
spinnaker cloth. Because it can't point point as high as regular jib, I 
wouldn't think of it as an all purpose light air sail.

There are several people on this list who have replaced their 175 genoa 
with something smaller. Hopefully, they'll pipe up about that to give 
you the other part of the equation.

I've attached a couple of old photos of Fretless showing off her UPS.

Hope this helps your thinking,

Mary Lou

ex Rhodes 22

now Rosborough RF-246? Tara


On 1/22/2018 10:08 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.
>
> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>
> It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.
>
> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.
>
> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>
> There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.
>
> As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.
>
> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>
> But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.
>
> When does the ice thaw?
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Jan 22 23:42:53 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:42:53 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <a978a21d-cdf5-02fc-f189-ca6361261677@atlanticbb.net>
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Message-ID: <0CB9BDEA-AE87-4B93-BB82-32E634169003@sunnybeeches.com>

Mary Lou,

You were not a participant.  You were a ring-leader.

Thanks for the input.  I hope you?re enjoying your new boat.

?Peter


> On Jan 22, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> We were one of the original participants in that discussion. We have since sold Fretless (and gone over to the dark side) but we did order the UPS sail and used it off and on for more than 10 years.
> 
> It was a wonderfully fun, forgiving sail to play with. It did take some additional effort to get it set up each time you used it, more effort than we laid back Rhodies with our furling sails were used to (halyards? what are they? ;-) )  You couldn't leave it set up all the time but rather had to attach the halyards, run the sheets and hoist it each time you wanted to use it.
> 
> That said, we enjoyed using it when conditions were right and we had the time to play with it. It cannot be used to point as high as a regular genoa but was good for anything from a reach to dead downwind. You could sail above a beam reach in winds from 3-4 knots to somewhere around 7 or 8 knots though that might have been pushing it a bit. Off the wind it was good for a little more wind. The sail fabric is more like a spinnaker cloth. Because it can't point point as high as regular jib, I wouldn't think of it as an all purpose light air sail.
> 
> There are several people on this list who have replaced their 175 genoa with something smaller. Hopefully, they'll pipe up about that to give you the other part of the equation.
> 
> I've attached a couple of old photos of Fretless showing off her UPS.
> 
> Hope this helps your thinking,
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> ex Rhodes 22
> 
> now Rosborough RF-246  Tara
> 
> 
> On 1/22/2018 10:08 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
>> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.
>> 
>> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>> 
>> It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.
>> 
>> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.
>> 
>> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>> 
>> There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.
>> 
>> As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.
>> 
>> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>> 
>> But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.
>> 
>> When does the ice thaw?
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>> 
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Tue Jan 23 00:31:57 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:31:57 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <0CB9BDEA-AE87-4B93-BB82-32E634169003@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <B6C200FA-8DA0-46C7-B429-4F5063AB0592@hughes.net>
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Message-ID: <090ad685-e4ec-1e02-9e88-a53651b1a89b@atlanticbb.net>

Actually, Jay Friedland was the ringleader and actually shepherded the 
group deal through. I just helped keep it going. Paul Beaudoin who 
helped us from the Doyle side still works for Doyle or at least did a 
year or two ago when I saw him in the booth at the Annapolis show. Jay 
is still a member of the list but doesn't post very often. You might 
hunt up his email and shoot him a private message about his experiences 
with the sail. We were pretty much fair weather sailors. Jay was more 
adventurous.

Mary Lou


On 1/22/2018 11:42 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>
> You were not a participant.  You were a ring-leader.
>
> Thanks for the input.  I hope you?re enjoying your new boat.
>
> ?Peter
>
>
>> On Jan 22, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> We were one of the original participants in that discussion. We have since sold Fretless (and gone over to the dark side) but we did order the UPS sail and used it off and on for more than 10 years.
>>
>> It was a wonderfully fun, forgiving sail to play with. It did take some additional effort to get it set up each time you used it, more effort than we laid back Rhodies with our furling sails were used to (halyards? what are they? ;-) )  You couldn't leave it set up all the time but rather had to attach the halyards, run the sheets and hoist it each time you wanted to use it.
>>
>> That said, we enjoyed using it when conditions were right and we had the time to play with it. It cannot be used to point as high as a regular genoa but was good for anything from a reach to dead downwind. You could sail above a beam reach in winds from 3-4 knots to somewhere around 7 or 8 knots though that might have been pushing it a bit. Off the wind it was good for a little more wind. The sail fabric is more like a spinnaker cloth. Because it can't point point as high as regular jib, I wouldn't think of it as an all purpose light air sail.
>>
>> There are several people on this list who have replaced their 175 genoa with something smaller. Hopefully, they'll pipe up about that to give you the other part of the equation.
>>
>> I've attached a couple of old photos of Fretless showing off her UPS.
>>
>> Hope this helps your thinking,
>>
>> Mary Lou
>>
>> ex Rhodes 22
>>
>> now Rosborough RF-246  Tara
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2018 10:08 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
>>> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.
>>>
>>> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>>>
>>> It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.
>>>
>>> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.
>>>
>>> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>>>
>>> There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.
>>>
>>> As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.
>>>
>>> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>>>
>>> But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.
>>>
>>> When does the ice thaw?
>>>
>>> Peter Nyberg
>>> Coventry, CT
>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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From snstaum at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 06:57:13 2018
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 06:57:13 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <909E5254-D0C8-4055-858A-9EB2B4C3AB9A@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Peter,

I have a 175 from my original Rhodes (custom made by Doyle with a luff pad
to aid in reefing).  My "new" Rhodes came with a 150 which I had Doyle add
a luff pad to.  I like it much better than the 175 as the boat does not get
overpowered as quickly and it does not get hung up as often when coming
about.  Where are you in New England?

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA


*Stephen Staum*

*Pariser Industries, Inc.*

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
wrote:

> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the
> archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually
> spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to
> look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing
> lately.
>
> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of
> what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it
> appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the
> ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle,
> otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/
> cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>
> It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail
> fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay
> for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In
> recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if
> those are terms that mean anything to you.
>
> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why
> they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the
> same lines that I?m thinking now.
>
> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>
> There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy
> weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be
> reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that
> I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that
> well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with
> something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most
> days) supplement that with the UPS.
>
> As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and
> early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered
> one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial
> installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.
>
> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there
> using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten
> us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>
> But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this
> subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics),
> I?m certainly open for that as well.
>
> When does the ice thaw?
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Jan 23 08:59:09 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:59:09 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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Hi Peter:
Many years ago when I owned a Mirage 27 I bought and used a UPS. I can't remember who the manufacturer was. Basically, the sail that I had worked like a spinnaker but without the pole. It was for downwind sailing in light air. It was very difficult to control when the winds picked up and there were a few times when we had a real struggle to take it down. So when you say " I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather" I don't think this is the sail that you would want to use. But for downwind sailing in light air it was a dream.  


Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: January 22, 2018 10:08 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS

Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.

Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)

It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.

Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.

I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.  

There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.

As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.  

My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.

But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.

When does the ice thaw?

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Tue Jan 23 09:26:21 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:26:21 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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This was not our experience at all with the UPS (a Doyle trademark) on 
the Rhodes. It would sail beautifully upwind (but not closehauled) and 
downwind in light air. We could sail in stronger breezes off the wind. 
We never had trouble furling it to take it down when the winds got 
stronger.

The only issue would be if we left it up after it was furled in stronger 
or gusty breezes, it would begin to unfurl itself at the top because 
unlike the jib, the furling mechanism works simply to loosely control 
the sail.

We would sometimes keep the sail bag lashed to something at the base of 
the mast after the sail was deployed and then when we wanted to drop the 
UPS, we would furl it, drop it? and stuff it right into the bag with 
halyard and sheets attached so it was ready to be deployed again. It 
made for an awful lot of lines all over the place but was doable. The 
tack of the sail would still be attached so that part of the sail was 
lying on the foredeck. I can't remember if we ever left it this way 
overnight - probably not.

Mary Lou

ex Rhodes 22

now Rosborough RF-246? Tara


On 1/23/2018 8:59 AM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> Hi Peter:
> Many years ago when I owned a Mirage 27 I bought and used a UPS. I can't remember who the manufacturer was. Basically, the sail that I had worked like a spinnaker but without the pole. It was for downwind sailing in light air. It was very difficult to control when the winds picked up and there were a few times when we had a real struggle to take it down. So when you say " I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather" I don't think this is the sail that you would want to use. But for downwind sailing in light air it was a dream.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
> Sent: January 22, 2018 10:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
>
> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.
>
> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>
> It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.
>
> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.
>
> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>
> There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.
>
> As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.
>
> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>
> But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.
>
> When does the ice thaw?
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 10:09:49 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:09:49 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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Peter,

I'm the Devil's advocate on the UPS.  It has given me the least pleasure or
utility return on any equipment investment I've made in the boat.

I have a 175 genny that crowds out use of the UPS by itself.  The only time
I use it is to sail wing-on-wing with the genny in up to 10 knots.  But how
often and how long I want to sail like that rarely justifies the bother of
raising and deploying the UPS.

Rick

From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Tue Jan 23 10:39:54 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:39:54 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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Hi Rick,
It's interesting how we have such different experiences. I wonder if the 
differnce is where we sail.

We got the UPS with the hope that it would make the very light air days 
(4 - 5 knots) on the Chesapeake more fun. On those days, the 175 would 
slat, flap and collapse on itself - sometimes from its own weight and 
sometimes from the powerboat chop which can be constant on weekends on 
the Upper Bay. The UPS made a big difference in those conditions and we 
used it a lot.

A few years before we sold Fretless, we had the Sunbrella UV protective 
strip on the 175 replaced with a lighter weight material and the the 
sail behaved better in light air. We didn't use the the UPS as much 
after that but sometimes would pull it out just because we had so much 
fun with it.

I forget what that UV material that we had put on the genoa was called 
but it was white, lighter weight and attracted dirt. It didn't look as 
good but the sail behaved a lot better in very light air.

Mary Lou

On 1/23/2018 10:09 AM, Rick wrote:
> Peter,
>
> I'm the Devil's advocate on the UPS.  It has given me the least pleasure or
> utility return on any equipment investment I've made in the boat.
>
> I have a 175 genny that crowds out use of the UPS by itself.  The only time
> I use it is to sail wing-on-wing with the genny in up to 10 knots.  But how
> often and how long I want to sail like that rarely justifies the bother of
> raising and deploying the UPS.
>
> Rick
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Jan 23 11:13:50 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:13:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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Message-ID: <028801d39465$283c6210$78b52630$@ca>

Mary Lou's comment is interesting. As I recall,  and it was a long time ago,  we didn't have any sort of furling on our sail. That might make a considerable difference.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: January 23, 2018 9:26 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS

This was not our experience at all with the UPS (a Doyle trademark) on the Rhodes. It would sail beautifully upwind (but not closehauled) and downwind in light air. We could sail in stronger breezes off the wind. 
We never had trouble furling it to take it down when the winds got stronger.

The only issue would be if we left it up after it was furled in stronger or gusty breezes, it would begin to unfurl itself at the top because unlike the jib, the furling mechanism works simply to loosely control the sail.

We would sometimes keep the sail bag lashed to something at the base of the mast after the sail was deployed and then when we wanted to drop the UPS, we would furl it, drop it  and stuff it right into the bag with halyard and sheets attached so it was ready to be deployed again. It made for an awful lot of lines all over the place but was doable. The tack of the sail would still be attached so that part of the sail was lying on the foredeck. I can't remember if we ever left it this way overnight - probably not.

Mary Lou

ex Rhodes 22

now Rosborough RF-246  Tara


On 1/23/2018 8:59 AM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> Hi Peter:
> Many years ago when I owned a Mirage 27 I bought and used a UPS. I can't remember who the manufacturer was. Basically, the sail that I had worked like a spinnaker but without the pole. It was for downwind sailing in light air. It was very difficult to control when the winds picked up and there were a few times when we had a real struggle to take it down. So when you say " I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather" I don't think this is the sail that you would want to use. But for downwind sailing in light air it was a dream.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
> Sent: January 22, 2018 10:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
>
> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I?ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I?ve been doing lately.
>
> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion 
> of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At 
> least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  
> It?s called the ?UPS?. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It?s still 
> available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn?t be bringing it up now. 
> (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>
> It?s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I?ve seen it referred to as a ?code 0? or a ?code 1?, if those are terms that mean anything to you.
>
> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I?m thinking now.
>
> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>
> There?s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I?m not the only person who feels that it really doesn?t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.
>
> As I said, back in the archives there?s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there?s nothing.
>
> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there?s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>
> But, if there?s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I?m certainly open for that as well.
>
> When does the ice thaw?
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Jan 23 12:10:01 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:10:01 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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Stephen,

My 175 does have a luff pad (I?m pretty sure), but I still don?t think it works well when heavily reefed (say down to around 100%).  As I understand it, this issue is not just the shape of the portion of sail that?s exposed, but also the effect that the portion rolled on the headstay has on the airflow.  The bigger the roll, the worse the effect.

If I do go with a smaller genoa, I?m not sure if I?d get a 150 or a 135.  Maybe I?ll be able to find some guidance in the archives.  It?s good to hear that even the 150 gets hung up less when tacking.  

I live in Coventry, CT, which is in the eastern part of the state.  During sailing season the boat lives on a mooring in Groton, CT, just east of the Thames River.  It?s about an hour drive.  It?s really an ideal location for a home port, as there are many potential destinations and anchorages within a sail of a day or two.  Even so, I?m hoping to expand my horizons in 2018 by taking advantage of the easy trailer-ability of the Rhodes 22.  I?ve had an email exchange with the harbormaster in South Dartmouth, MA confirming that as long as you pay the fee it?s OK to leave a vehicle and trailer in their boat ramp parking lot for up to a week.  That would be a jumping off point for cruising Buzzards Bay and Martha?s Vineyard and maybe even Nantucket. 

?Peter

> On Jan 23, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> I have a 175 from my original Rhodes (custom made by Doyle with a luff pad
> to aid in reefing).  My "new" Rhodes came with a 150 which I had Doyle add
> a luff pad to.  I like it much better than the 175 as the boat does not get
> overpowered as quickly and it does not get hung up as often when coming
> about.  Where are you in New England?
> 
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA


From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 12:28:08 2018
From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:28:08 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
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I have the front stays inside PVC tubes. This way the sail does not get
hung up because the tubes roll

S/V Aquetxali

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> My 175 does have a luff pad (I?m pretty sure), but I still don?t think it
> works well when heavily reefed (say down to around 100%).  As I understand
> it, this issue is not just the shape of the portion of sail that?s exposed,
> but also the effect that the portion rolled on the headstay has on the
> airflow.  The bigger the roll, the worse the effect.
>
> If I do go with a smaller genoa, I?m not sure if I?d get a 150 or a 135.
> Maybe I?ll be able to find some guidance in the archives.  It?s good to
> hear that even the 150 gets hung up less when tacking.
>
> I live in Coventry, CT, which is in the eastern part of the state.  During
> sailing season the boat lives on a mooring in Groton, CT, just east of the
> Thames River.  It?s about an hour drive.  It?s really an ideal location for
> a home port, as there are many potential destinations and anchorages within
> a sail of a day or two.  Even so, I?m hoping to expand my horizons in 2018
> by taking advantage of the easy trailer-ability of the Rhodes 22.  I?ve had
> an email exchange with the harbormaster in South Dartmouth, MA confirming
> that as long as you pay the fee it?s OK to leave a vehicle and trailer in
> their boat ramp parking lot for up to a week.  That would be a jumping off
> point for cruising Buzzards Bay and Martha?s Vineyard and maybe even
> Nantucket.
>
> ?Peter
>
> > On Jan 23, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > I have a 175 from my original Rhodes (custom made by Doyle with a luff
> pad
> > to aid in reefing).  My "new" Rhodes came with a 150 which I had Doyle
> add
> > a luff pad to.  I like it much better than the 175 as the boat does not
> get
> > overpowered as quickly and it does not get hung up as often when coming
> > about.  Where are you in New England?
> >
> > Stephen Staum
> > s/v Carol Lee 2
> > Needham, MA
>
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Jan 23 12:43:48 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:43:48 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36bZFzKOi7OC2OsYQn9CCmq3uu3k2sh9jRQCsSH7fCsB4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Rick,

Sorry to hear that the UPS hasn?t worked out for you.  By ?crowds out?, I assume you mean that the reefed 175 creates a roll that?s big enough to interfere with the deployment of the UPS.  

My thought was to replace the 175 with a smaller genoa, and generally use the UPS in light air and the genoa in heavy.  Using both wing-on-wing downwind sounds like fun too.

Since you rarely use your UPS, would you be interested in selling it?

?Peter


> On Jan 23, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> I'm the Devil's advocate on the UPS.  It has given me the least pleasure or
> utility return on any equipment investment I've made in the boat.
> 
> I have a 175 genny that crowds out use of the UPS by itself.  The only time
> I use it is to sail wing-on-wing with the genny in up to 10 knots.  But how
> often and how long I want to sail like that rarely justifies the bother of
> raising and deploying the UPS.
> 
> Rick


From joedempsey at hughes.net  Tue Jan 23 13:00:50 2018
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joseph Dempsey)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:00:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Winch
Message-ID: <0C.91.16417.B58776A5@smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com>


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Jan 23 13:20:36 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:20:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <CAKTnenBf8x3Y2eB8VXY=zm-SsDRdCk_9EH1SmiQxO_Tc9LHfnQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <909E5254-D0C8-4055-858A-9EB2B4C3AB9A@sunnybeeches.com>
 <CAOo_FjeC0Q=OJSzrFtsY+U_XzBsvTScbSP61iueUV5rJKj0vEg@mail.gmail.com>
 <DF96860B-E7A7-48CA-9636-5E59EAA9FB02@sunnybeeches.com>
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I have PVC tubes on the forward lowers as well, so probably ?hung up? is not quite the right phrase.  The issue I have is not that the sail or sheets get snagged on the turnbuckles (which often would happen before the PVC), but sometimes there?s just not enough wind to move all of that cloth from one side of the boat to the other in a smart and seamanlike way.  

?Peter

> On Jan 23, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the front stays inside PVC tubes. This way the sail does not get
> hung up because the tubes roll
> 
> S/V Aquetxali


From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 16:27:52 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:27:52 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
In-Reply-To: <BCEED2AD-19A4-430D-A088-62924E32B047@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB31400D67E82202A3824215DAC1EC0@BN6PR05MB3140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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 <909E5254-D0C8-4055-858A-9EB2B4C3AB9A@sunnybeeches.com>
 <027f01d39452$57a7f310$06f7d930$@ca>
 <3bf1bfcc-3acf-0773-ee87-fd5c1ba7927c@atlanticbb.net>
 <CABkv36bZFzKOi7OC2OsYQn9CCmq3uu3k2sh9jRQCsSH7fCsB4A@mail.gmail.com>
 <BCEED2AD-19A4-430D-A088-62924E32B047@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36asSKhEHt7=8ur+d1Mnnvh42bY5Gum94BLsLfWFgohDSw@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

I meant the 175 jenny "crowds out" the UPS in a utilization sense, not in
terms of space.  If you mount the UPS deck u-bolt 8" or so aft of the
genny, there is plenty of space for both.

As for furling the genny skinny, do it on a broad reach in at least 15
knots of wind.  In other words, if you start out sailing and unfurl the
genny part way, it will likely be too fat to get good performance close
hauled.  Instead, first unfurl it all the way on a reach, then furl down to
where you want it.

Rick

From Austin.Abel at gmail.com  Thu Jan 25 09:36:20 2018
From: Austin.Abel at gmail.com (SwampFox)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:36:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer in Houston Area
Message-ID: <1516890980448-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hey, Does anyone in the Houston area have a trailer that they could loan or
rent out? I keep my boat in the water on Lake Pontchartrain in New Orleans,
and would like to move it to Lake Conroe where it would be kept in the
water. 



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From Bgarrant at gmail.com  Sun Jan 28 18:35:56 2018
From: Bgarrant at gmail.com (Bgarrant)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:35:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Maryland Eastern Shore Rhodies?
Message-ID: <1517182556145-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi All,
I just became a Rhodes 22 owner. I purchased a refurbished 2000 R22 from
Stan in April of last year. I sailed it on Round Bay on the Screen River for
the season before we relocated to Stevensville on the Eastern Shore in
December.  Looking to connect with other Rhodies in the area.
Bob Garrant 
Castle Harbor Marina Slip J01



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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Sun Jan 28 19:23:04 2018
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 00:23:04 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Maryland Eastern Shore Rhodies?
In-Reply-To: <1517182556145-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Welcome.  I am at the washington sailing marina in DC


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On Jan 28, 2018, at 6:36 PM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:Bgarrant at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,
I just became a Rhodes 22 owner. I purchased a refurbished 2000 R22 from
Stan in April of last year. I sailed it on Round Bay on the Screen River for
the season before we relocated to Stevensville on the Eastern Shore in
December.  Looking to connect with other Rhodies in the area.
Bob Garrant
Castle Harbor Marina Slip J01



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From Bgarrant at gmail.com  Sun Jan 28 19:34:49 2018
From: Bgarrant at gmail.com (Bgarrant)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:34:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Maryland Eastern Shore Rhodies?
In-Reply-To: <8C1C6571-5C00-4F2A-9274-6660C13493B0@cowieassociates.com>
References: <1517182556145-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <8C1C6571-5C00-4F2A-9274-6660C13493B0@cowieassociates.com>
Message-ID: <1517186089633-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi Chris
I'll reach out to you when I'm back in Maryland. My wife and I came to Baja
Sur to get a close look at gray whales ... and to enjoy kicking beach sand
off our flipflops instead of shoveling snow off the driveway. 
Thanks for your quick reply.
Bob



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From jcbblackb at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 17:48:19 2018
From: jcbblackb at gmail.com (John Blackburn)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:48:19 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Maryland Eastern Shore Rhodies?
In-Reply-To: <1517182556145-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1517182556145-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ+SjbQOHhbTqNEBqDF39axfL8wA64pZN+UTqyipEdCt_01sqA@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

Hi - I am on the lower eastern shore and sail on Chincoteague Bay out of
Public Landing near Snow Hill.

Regards
John

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I just became a Rhodes 22 owner. I purchased a refurbished 2000 R22 from
> Stan in April of last year. I sailed it on Round Bay on the Screen River
> for
> the season before we relocated to Stevensville on the Eastern Shore in
> December.  Looking to connect with other Rhodies in the area.
> Bob Garrant
> Castle Harbor Marina Slip J01
>
>
>
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Jan 29 23:34:06 2018
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:34:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] DO NOT REPLY - testing new spam filter
Message-ID: <00a701d39983$9136ce90$b3a46bb0$@ebsmed.com>

We have been getting hit with a lot of spam emails lately.

 

This is a test of the new spam filter.

 

 

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

 

 


From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Wed Jan 31 09:09:08 2018
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:09:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues
Message-ID: <003a01d39a9d$10759280$3160b780$@ebsmed.com>

In response to an overwhelming number of spam emails received by "da list" I
had implemented additional anti-spam directives to the mail server that we
use.  At least one Rhodie was unable to post to the list as a result.  I
have removed most of the changes.  Has anyone else had emails rejected by
the mail server?  Please rely to this message or email me directly.

 

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

 

 


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Wed Jan 31 09:17:19 2018
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:17:19 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues
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Test Test Test 
s/v Dadventure 

Richard Stott
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 



> On Jan 31, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> In response to an overwhelming number of spam emails received by "da list" I
> had implemented additional anti-spam directives to the mail server that we
> use.  At least one Rhodie was unable to post to the list as a result.  I
> have removed most of the changes.  Has anyone else had emails rejected by
> the mail server?  Please rely to this message or email me directly.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> 
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mark-olson at verizon.net  Wed Jan 31 09:23:35 2018
From: mark-olson at verizon.net (mark-olson at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:23:35 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues
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References: <AB322C20-0661-4848-8447-39772C3E5574@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <1614c99fc01-1d2f-1165@webjas-vae159.srv.aolmail.net>

Test
s/v Satchmo

Mark Olson




On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
Test Test Test 
s/v Dadventure 

Richard Stott
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 



> 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> In response to an overwhelming number of spam emails received by "da list" I
> had implemented additional anti-spam directives to the mail server that we
> use. At least one Rhodie was unable to post to the list as a result. I
> have removed most of the changes. Has anyone else had emails rejected by
> the mail server? Please rely to this message or email me directly.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> 
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From talmorin at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 31 09:34:31 2018
From: talmorin at hotmail.com (Thomas s)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:34:31 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues
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Helms alee


Tom

s/v Just Bent
Lake Livingston, TX


________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:09 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues

In response to an overwhelming number of spam emails received by "da list" I
had implemented additional anti-spam directives to the mail server that we
use.  At least one Rhodie was unable to post to the list as a result.  I
have removed most of the changes.  Has anyone else had emails rejected by
the mail server?  Please rely to this message or email me directly.



Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY





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From eandsmoore at hughes.net  Wed Jan 31 09:59:05 2018
From: eandsmoore at hughes.net (Ellyn and Sam Moore)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:59:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues
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Jibe-oh!
Sam
?77 RC Rhodester


> On Jan 31, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Thomas s <talmorin at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Helms alee
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> s/v Just Bent
> Lake Livingston, TX
> 
> 
> ________________________________
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:09 AM
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> In response to an overwhelming number of spam emails received by "da list" I
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> have removed most of the changes.  Has anyone else had emails rejected by
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> 
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> Mike
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Wed Jan 31 10:02:52 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:02:52 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] email issues
In-Reply-To: <003a01d39a9d$10759280$3160b780$@ebsmed.com>
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Think mine have gone through but last one was probably before the controls.

Mary Lou
ex-R22
now Rosborough RF-246?? Tara

On 1/31/2018 9:09 AM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> In response to an overwhelming number of spam emails received by "da list" I
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> have removed most of the changes.  Has anyone else had emails rejected by
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>
>   
>
> Mike
>
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>   
>
>   
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From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Wed Jan 31 22:06:08 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 22:06:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Business Dealings
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRrVpOptMYoP4=NAPsFQvpfSGN6Y6SjOtGb-1GPA6oFffQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a question about a business in Mattapoisett, MA.
They deal in Marine Compass. They have sun covers for Suunto Compass F-116.
The company is "Andrews Compass Service".

My concern is that I have only found ONE rating on line and it seems to be
negative.

Does anyone have experience doing business with this company?

Thanks for your help!

Cary Tolbert
S/V Whisper '86
Radford, VA