From joedempsey at hughes.net Fri Jun 1 14:21:42 2018 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP Dempsey) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:21:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor Locker/Tray Message-ID: <1527877302974-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I've read much of the commentary on anchoring and the anchor tray on the forum. Has anyone considered installing a drain to the bilge from the tray in the foc'sil? So far I've kept my anchor rode in the tray with a cowl vent in the deck port for ventilation. Being concerned with dampness, I've installed a solar powered vent in the pop top that provides constant airflow sucking through the forward cowl vent. I figure that this should provide sufficient ventilation to dry the anchor rode after anchoring. Usually I'll let the rode air out on the fore deck prior to feeding back down to the tray. This doesn't address the issue of slime, mud, etc. I have hosed down the anchor rode after returning to dock but this requires leaving it on the deck longer than I'd like and especially during docking. Not good. I'm thinking of putting a drain in the bottom of the tray with a hose to the bilge so rain/spray entering the cowl vent can drain to the bilge rather than collect in the tray. Any thoughts on this viz. reasons not to do this? Thanks for your ideas. Joe ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From joedempsey at hughes.net Fri Jun 1 14:30:29 2018 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP Dempsey) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:30:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for the Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1527877829303-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Cary, Just had my main out of the mast last fall. Here are some photos from the re-install of the IMF rather than try to explain clockwise or counter depends on how you're looking at it. Hope they help. PS are you at the Claytor Lake or the Duck Pond? LOL ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Fri Jun 1 14:36:32 2018 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:36:32 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor Locker/Tray In-Reply-To: <1527877302974-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1527877302974-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <003c01d3f9d7$77ad3040$670790c0$@com> Joe, My tray was not securely fastened when I took delivery of the boat. In rough seas this caused me to spill the anchor rode and tray water onto the V-berth (not desirable). I secured the tray to prevent future mishaps. I suggest that you check this before adding a bilge line. I find that small vinyl hoses (1/2" - 3/4") that might be your choice for the run to the bilge tend to collapse or clog with debris over time. I suggest using a 1" (to prevent clogging) spiraflex hose (coil supported to prevent collapse). Northern Tool has a hose for $35 that should do the trick (JGB Enterprises Suction Hose - 1in. x 20ft., Model# A007-0169-0240). Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of JP Dempsey Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:22 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor Locker/Tray I've read much of the commentary on anchoring and the anchor tray on the forum. Has anyone considered installing a drain to the bilge from the tray in the foc'sil? So far I've kept my anchor rode in the tray with a cowl vent in the deck port for ventilation. Being concerned with dampness, I've installed a solar powered vent in the pop top that provides constant airflow sucking through the forward cowl vent. I figure that this should provide sufficient ventilation to dry the anchor rode after anchoring. Usually I'll let the rode air out on the fore deck prior to feeding back down to the tray. This doesn't address the issue of slime, mud, etc. I have hosed down the anchor rode after returning to dock but this requires leaving it on the deck longer than I'd like and especially during docking. Not good. I'm thinking of putting a drain in the bottom of the tray with a hose to the bilge so rain/spray entering the cowl vent can drain to the bilge rather than collect in the tray. Any thoughts on this viz. reasons not to do this? Thanks for your ideas. Joe ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From retiredtoby at gmail.com Fri Jun 1 15:22:57 2018 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 15:22:57 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for the Day In-Reply-To: <1527877829303-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1527877829303-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Thanks Joe. Looks good. I just need to make sure I wrap the furler line the opposite direction of my sail. I'm at the Claytor Lake Marina, though many of my dock mates are employees or retires of the Duck Pond. Cary s/v Whisper Radford,VA On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:30 PM, JP Dempsey wrote: > Cary, Just had my main out of the mast last fall. Here are some photos from > the re-install of the IMF rather than try to explain clockwise or counter > depends on how you're looking at it. Hope they help. PS are you at the > Claytor Lake or the Duck Pond? LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > JP Dempsey > s/v Respite > Marshall,VA > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From peter at sunnybeeches.com Fri Jun 1 16:32:40 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:32:40 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor Locker/Tray In-Reply-To: <1527877302974-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1527877302974-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <443BE2E6-0EC0-43D6-8651-F6C458E4CE4E@sunnybeeches.com> Joe, I don?t see any problem with doing this, assuming that you can find some unobtrusive way to route the tubing. Another approach, which would require more bravery, would be to install a thru-hull fitting in the bow slightly lower than the level of the bottom of the tray, and run a piece of tubing from the tray to the fitting. The tubing run would be much shorter, and much less likely to clog. Of course you would have to drill a hole in your hull? Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:21 PM, JP Dempsey wrote: > > I've read much of the commentary on anchoring and the anchor tray on the > forum. Has anyone considered installing a drain to the bilge from the tray > in the foc'sil? > > So far I've kept my anchor rode in the tray with a cowl vent in the deck > port for ventilation. Being concerned with dampness, I've installed a solar > powered vent in the pop top that provides constant airflow sucking through > the forward cowl vent. I figure that this should provide sufficient > ventilation to dry the anchor rode after anchoring. Usually I'll let the > rode air out on the fore deck prior to feeding back down to the tray. This > doesn't address the issue of slime, mud, etc. I have hosed down the anchor > rode after returning to dock but this requires leaving it on the deck longer > than I'd like and especially during docking. Not good. > > I'm thinking of putting a drain in the bottom of the tray with a hose to the > bilge so rain/spray entering the cowl vent can drain to the bilge rather > than collect in the tray. Any thoughts on this viz. reasons not to do this? > > Thanks for your ideas. > > > Joe > > > > ----- > JP Dempsey > s/v Respite > Marshall,VA > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From sundsvalla at earthlink.net Sat Jun 2 00:41:43 2018 From: sundsvalla at earthlink.net (Tex Hill) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 23:41:43 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jackson Creek project In-Reply-To: <443BE2E6-0EC0-43D6-8651-F6C458E4CE4E@sunnybeeches.com> References: <1527877302974-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <443BE2E6-0EC0-43D6-8651-F6C458E4CE4E@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: <5894ED69-BF7A-485C-BC3B-336627996114@earthlink.net> John, Please resend your msg on the Jackson Creek project. Your msg did not come through, it was garbled with a msg on a totally different subject??? Thanks, Tex Hill In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day! > On Jun 1, 2018, at 15:29, John Naybor wrote: > > Joe, > > I don?t see any problem with doing this, assuming that you can find some unobtrusive way to route the tubing. > > Another approach, which would require more bravery, would be to install a thru-hull fitting in the bow slightly lower than the level of the bottom of the tray, and run a piece of tubing from the tray to the fitting. > The tubing run would be much shorter, and much less likely to clog. Of course you would have to drill a hole in your hull? > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > >> On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:21 PM, JP Dempsey wrote: >> >> I've read much of the commentary on anchoring and the anchor tray on the >> forum. Has anyone considered installing a drain to the bilge from the tray >> in the foc'sil? >> >> So far I've kept my anchor rode in the tray with a cowl vent in the deck >> port for ventilation. Being concerned with dampness, I've installed a solar >> powered vent in the pop top that provides constant airflow sucking through >> the forward cowl vent. I figure that this should provide sufficient >> ventilation to dry the anchor rode after anchoring. Usually I'll let the >> rode air out on the fore deck prior to feeding back down to the tray. This >> doesn't address the issue of slime, mud, etc. I have hosed down the anchor >> rode after returning to dock but this requires leaving it on the deck longer >> than I'd like and especially during docking. Not good. >> >> I'm thinking of putting a drain in the bottom of the tray with a hose to the >> bilge so rain/spray entering the cowl vent can drain to the bilge rather >> than collect in the tray. Any thoughts on this viz. reasons not to do this? >> >> Thanks for your ideas. >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> ----- >> JP Dempsey >> s/v Respite >> Marshall,VA >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 08:08:16 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 14:08:16 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing in the Med Message-ID: Back in Barcelona again and hopefully will get the Rhodes in the water this time. Plan on seeing the boat Monday and will know more then. The adventure/ordeal continues. Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis From rodellner at mac.com Sat Jun 2 09:09:04 2018 From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 08:09:04 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Chris??.we were just talking about you the other day & wondering where Enosis was! Let the Great Adventure continue! Rod/Mary St Croix River Wisconsin > On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:08 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > Back in Barcelona again and hopefully will get the Rhodes in the water this > time. Plan on seeing the boat Monday and will know more then. The > adventure/ordeal continues. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 13:12:55 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 19:12:55 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Walked a few klicks to where the boat is through old/new village and small farms. It looks dirty and one tire is flat but other than than it looks OK. I will have access to the boat on Monday and can begin the process of getting it the 10 km down to the water. Tomorrow I will check out the 3 nearby marinas and figure out which one is the best. Sometime around Wednesday or Thursday I'll rent a van with a ball hitch and tow it down the marina. In the meantime I will need to replace the coupler, it broke and is incompatible with Euro hitches anyway. Emptying and inspecting all the gear so I tow only a lighter empty boat is another project. I'll keep you all posted on the progress along with a occasional picture. Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Rod Ellner wrote: > Thanks, Chris??.we were just talking about you the other day & wondering > where Enosis was! Let the Great Adventure continue! > > Rod/Mary > > St Croix River > Wisconsin > > On Jun 2, 2018, at 7:08 AM, Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > > Back in Barcelona again and hopefully will get the Rhodes in the water > this > > time. Plan on seeing the boat Monday and will know more then. The > > adventure/ordeal continues. > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu Sun Jun 3 17:24:45 2018 From: C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu (C. Robert Lester) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 21:24:45 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... Message-ID: ....was dropped into the centerboard hole. I was cleaning out debris from the chase that gives the centerboard line access from cockpit to center board. I dropped the tool I was using into the hole! Will this interrupt the functioning of the centerboard or will it most likely fall completely out once the centerboard is fully lowered? *The tool was a 12" long, stiff piece of wire (like a straight piece of coat hanger). Thanks, Bob From c.robert.lester at dartmouth.edu Sun Jun 3 20:31:20 2018 From: c.robert.lester at dartmouth.edu (Harbrlife) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 17:31:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1528072280961-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Chris - Can't wait see the pics of the adventure. If Enosis is still resting on our old trailer, kindly send a pic of that also! Bob -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Sun Jun 3 21:02:11 2018 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 21:02:11 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My bet is that it will fall right through... ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:24 PM, C. Robert Lester < C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> wrote: > ....was dropped into the centerboard hole. I was cleaning out debris from > the chase that gives the centerboard line access from cockpit to center > board. I dropped the tool I was using into the hole! Will this interrupt > the functioning of the centerboard or will it most likely fall completely > out once the centerboard is fully lowered? > *The tool was a 12" long, stiff piece of wire (like a straight piece of > coat hanger). > > Thanks, > Bob > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu Sun Jun 3 21:39:22 2018 From: C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu (C. Robert Lester) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 01:39:22 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Rhodes 22 In-Reply-To: <1637d9fff7c-c87-776@webjas-vab190.srv.aolmail.net> References: <1637d9aa7b3-c94-120ec@webjas-vaa155.srv.aolmail.net> <1637d9fff7c-c87-776@webjas-vab190.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: What year is your Rhodes. Thank you, Bob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:08 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Rhodes 22 Iam the owner of a Rhodes 22.... Although I am over 80 my boat is not She is a sound boat, loaded with extras,including a new spinnaker, with sock, map GPS, 2 marine radios, bimini, interior and exterior, power clutches,sails in good condition, Mercury, 8 hp electric start engine ,marina maintained in excellent condition, dual gas tanks,and other extras that permit easy single handed sailing , all for sailaway condition ... I am now over 80years old... and it is time to sell my boat. I do not have a trailer. First offer of $2500. takes boat with clear registered title. Sorry, Now trailer.. If you areinterested please do not hesitate to contact me... 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Robert Lester) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 01:41:52 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale In-Reply-To: <5B8055F0-A90C-4C45-80F7-7D35C7BDBA3E@mac.com> References: <5B8055F0-A90C-4C45-80F7-7D35C7BDBA3E@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Rod, Where are you located? What are you asking for your Rhodes? Are there any pics you can share? Thank you, Bob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rod Ellner Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:38 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale Hello everybody It is time we part with our wonderful boat. We haven?t used it much the last few years. 1987/ recycled 2008. This boat has most of the options offered at that time. Very solid boat she has served us well. If interested call me 612 919 1335. Rod Sent from my iPhone __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frhodes22-list&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C9677121584d449edf42a08d5be4e9b57%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636624167181735666&sdata=SEnR%2Fh1Zvp0w3krx%2FdCLPzyzqTefcIozmz8PskyIT8k%3D&reserved=0 For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Flist&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C9677121584d449edf42a08d5be4e9b57%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636624167181735666&sdata=LvwzrX4Ndbd9mwKKXs3EzgtMpMZB%2BoBXSzP02WD4ERQ%3D&reserved=0 __________________________________________________ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 01:48:08 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 07:48:08 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing in the Med In-Reply-To: <1528072280961-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528072280961-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hey Bob, Yes indeed it is on the old trailer. Will get a pic today. I am so glad we were able to make the exchange so a bit of Enosis is still in the U.S. It was the right move as I couldn't give any trailer away and could not have even sold it because of the laws, only destruction of the trailer is allowed, which is pretty much what I was planning on. So pictures are on the way today. Chris G Enosis '83 Rhodes On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:31 AM, Harbrlife wrote: > Chris - Can't wait see the pics of the adventure. If Enosis is still > resting > on our old trailer, kindly send a pic of that also! > > Bob > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From ayesailaway at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 07:07:18 2018 From: ayesailaway at gmail.com (Jim A) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 04:07:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm Message-ID: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... Thanks, JimA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rlowe at vt.edu Mon Jun 4 10:21:55 2018 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 14:21:55 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jim, I think sailing on a Rhodes is probably the least frightening experience one could imagine. Where are you located? You should get a look at one of these. Always a friendly Rhodes owner somewhere nearby. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Jim A Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:07 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... Thanks, JimA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Mon Jun 4 10:54:22 2018 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:54:22 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00d401d3fc13$ecd226d0$c6767470$@ca> Most likely it will drop straight out the bottom of the keel unless it got tangled in the centerboard line - in which case you would probably feel it as you raised the line. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of C. Robert Lester Sent: June 3, 2018 5:25 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... ....was dropped into the centerboard hole. I was cleaning out debris from the chase that gives the centerboard line access from cockpit to center board. I dropped the tool I was using into the hole! Will this interrupt the functioning of the centerboard or will it most likely fall completely out once the centerboard is fully lowered? *The tool was a 12" long, stiff piece of wire (like a straight piece of coat hanger). Thanks, Bob __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Mon Jun 4 11:13:16 2018 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:13:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> JimA My Rhodes as a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means that the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by adjusting the rigging. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jim A Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... Thanks, JimA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 11:14:16 2018 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jim, The Rhodes 22 sails with a neutral helm. To sail with a lee helm, the balance of foresail to mainsail has to be severely off toward the foresail. Regards, Rick On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Jim A wrote: > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > Is > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and > probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed > on > a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From jadoucet at snet.net Mon Jun 4 14:47:54 2018 From: jadoucet at snet.net (joseph doucet) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 14:47:54 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <68BA3C4E-F6B4-4542-AAC0-FCFCA5C77DED@snet.net> I guess we should reply to the question. No, the Rhodes 22 does not have a Lee helm if it is set up properly. Mine has a slight weather helm. Lee helms are dangerous and strong weather helms can wear one out on a long cruise. Good question though Joe Joe Doucet 203-512-5629 > On Jun 4, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > Jim, > I think sailing on a Rhodes is probably the least frightening experience one could imagine. Where are you located? You should get a look at one of these. Always a friendly Rhodes owner somewhere nearby. - rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Jim A > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:07 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Mon Jun 4 14:49:10 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 18:49:10 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <68BA3C4E-F6B4-4542-AAC0-FCFCA5C77DED@snet.net> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <68BA3C4E-F6B4-4542-AAC0-FCFCA5C77DED@snet.net> Message-ID: The Rhodes has no weather helm when the sails are properly trimmed Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of joseph doucet Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 2:48 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm I guess we should reply to the question. No, the Rhodes 22 does not have a Lee helm if it is set up properly. Mine has a slight weather helm. Lee helms are dangerous and strong weather helms can wear one out on a long cruise. Good question though Joe Joe Doucet 203-512-5629 > On Jun 4, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > Jim, > I think sailing on a Rhodes is probably the least frightening > experience one could imagine. Where are you located? You should get > a look at one of these. Always a friendly Rhodes owner somewhere > nearby. - rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of > Jim A > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:07 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ayesailaway at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 15:11:28 2018 From: ayesailaway at gmail.com (Jim A) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 12:11:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <68BA3C4E-F6B4-4542-AAC0-FCFCA5C77DED@snet.net> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <68BA3C4E-F6B4-4542-AAC0-FCFCA5C77DED@snet.net> Message-ID: <1528139488919-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thank you all for the information. Extremely helpful!! Mac took me, my wife and a friend on a demo sail at the show a few years back but the wind wasn't strong enough for this novice to feel anything one way or the other. When i read what I read the other day I was left scratching my head. I was hoping it would just be a setup issue. I live in Camp Hill, PA, and would probably keep the boat at Lake Marburg in Codorus State Park, (although there is nothing anywhere near as nice as a Rhodes there). Thanks again!! JimA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 15:33:56 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 21:33:56 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, I've been sailing a Rhodes for the last, let's see, 42 years. I can't recall a single time I had a lee helm except when I was way over canvased with just the jib up, I think a 130 at the time. That was simply my fault for not paying attention to the thunderstorm and not sailing with a reasonably balanced canvas. I am writing to you from Barcelona where my Rhodes is at the moment. Getting ready to splash it on Friday. (no I didn't sail it here ) but it is totally capable of taking me and my wife anywhere in the Med. Get the boat! I never regretted the choice it has been a magic carpet for my family. Chris Geankoplis Enosis I On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Jim A wrote: > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > Is > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and > probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed > on > a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From scranevmd at verizon.net Mon Jun 4 15:50:02 2018 From: scranevmd at verizon.net (Susan Crane) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 15:50:02 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> Message-ID: <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the rigging. My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and the centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't know to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? Susan Crane s/v Whimsy R22 1986 Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm JimA My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means that the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by adjusting the rigging. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jim A Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... Thanks, JimA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 15:53:31 2018 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 15:53:31 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> Message-ID: Here's an article on it that may help. http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html Hank On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the rigging. > My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and > fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and the > centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't know > to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? > > Susan Crane > s/v Whimsy R22 1986 > Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Graham Stewart > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > JimA > My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means > that > the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by > adjusting the rigging. > > > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Jim A > Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > Is > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and > probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed > on > a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From scranevmd at verizon.net Mon Jun 4 16:02:15 2018 From: scranevmd at verizon.net (Susan Crane) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:02:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> Message-ID: <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> I do understand the concept and have seen that article. Apparently adjusting the sails is not sufficient to correct my lee helm. Even with a full main and very small jib, it still tended to go downwind or am I missing something. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 3:54 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm Here's an article on it that may help. http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html Hank On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the rigging. > My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and > fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and the > centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't know > to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? > > Susan Crane > s/v Whimsy R22 1986 > Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Graham Stewart > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > JimA > My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means > that > the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by > adjusting the rigging. > > > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Jim A > Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > Is > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and > probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed > on > a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 16:06:13 2018 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:06:13 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> Message-ID: Raking the mast back should increase weather helm, but if you have IMF that may not be possible. What if you get a big gust and start to get knocked over? Does it still stay with lee helm? It should transition to more of a weather helm as it heels. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > I do understand the concept and have seen that article. Apparently > adjusting the sails is not sufficient to correct my lee helm. Even with a > full main and very small jib, it still tended to go downwind or am I > missing > something. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Hank > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 3:54 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > Here's an article on it that may help. > > http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html > > Hank > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > > > Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the > rigging. > > My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and > > fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and > the > > centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't > know > > to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? > > > > Susan Crane > > s/v Whimsy R22 1986 > > Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf > > Of > > Graham Stewart > > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM > > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > > > JimA > > My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means > > that > > the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by > > adjusting the rigging. > > > > > > Graham Stewart > > Agile. R22, 1976 > > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf > > Of > > Jim A > > Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > > Is > > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and > > probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed > > on > > a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > > > Thanks, > > JimA > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From scranevmd at verizon.net Mon Jun 4 16:18:46 2018 From: scranevmd at verizon.net (Susan Crane) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:18:46 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> Message-ID: <60C68313-3D48-483F-B0E5-344A3ECFCD49@verizon.net> I do have the IMF. And don?t know the answer to your question on big gusts. I would have been too distracted in that instance to think about it. It is not my practice to be out in big wind ?. For the type of sailing that I do, this really isn?t a big deal. It is just the principle of the thing that it bothers me. I would like the boat to be right. Sent from my iPhone Susan Crane > On Jun 4, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Hank wrote: > > Raking the mast back should increase weather helm, but if you have IMF that > may not be possible. What if you get a big gust and start to get knocked > over? Does it still stay with lee helm? It should transition to more of a > weather helm as it heels. > >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Susan Crane wrote: >> >> I do understand the concept and have seen that article. Apparently >> adjusting the sails is not sufficient to correct my lee helm. Even with a >> full main and very small jib, it still tended to go downwind or am I >> missing >> something. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf >> Of >> Hank >> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 3:54 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >> >> Here's an article on it that may help. >> >> http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html >> >> Hank >> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: >>> >>> Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the >> rigging. >>> My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and >>> fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and >> the >>> centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't >> know >>> to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? >>> >>> Susan Crane >>> s/v Whimsy R22 1986 >>> Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf >>> Of >>> Graham Stewart >>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM >>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>> >>> JimA >>> My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means >>> that >>> the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by >>> adjusting the rigging. >>> >>> >>> Graham Stewart >>> Agile. R22, 1976 >>> Kingston Ontario Canada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf >>> Of >>> Jim A >>> Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>> >>> I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. >>> Is >>> this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and >>> probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed >>> on >>> a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> JimA >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From bgarrant at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 16:28:23 2018 From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:28:23 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> Message-ID: Hi Jim You?re welcome to join me If you want to go for another test sail before you buy. Last year, I downsized from a Catalina 30 to a refurbished 2000 Rhodes 22. If you?re planning on a used boat, I strongly suggest getting it refurbished by Stan. I find the Rhodes very responsive and a joy to sail. And the swivel seats are terrific for comfort and keeping an eye on traffic. I keep my boat at Castle Harbor Marina on Kent Island in the Chesapeake Bay. Good luck with your search and your decision. Bob Garrant S/v 2000 Sail la Vie Kent Island, MD On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:53 PM Hank wrote: > Here's an article on it that may help. > > http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html > > Hank > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > > > Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the > rigging. > > My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and > > fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and > the > > centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't > know > > to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? > > > > Susan Crane > > s/v Whimsy R22 1986 > > Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf > > Of > > Graham Stewart > > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM > > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > > > JimA > > My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means > > that > > the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by > > adjusting the rigging. > > > > > > Graham Stewart > > Agile. R22, 1976 > > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf > > Of > > Jim A > > Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > > Is > > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and > > probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed > > on > > a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > > > Thanks, > > JimA > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From rlowe at vt.edu Mon Jun 4 16:29:26 2018 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:29:26 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <60C68313-3D48-483F-B0E5-344A3ECFCD49@verizon.net> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> <60C68313-3D48-483F-B0E5-344A3ECFCD49@verizon.net> Message-ID: Susan, What head sail do you have? I had the 175 and have found the 135 to be more manageable in big wind gusts. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Susan Crane Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 4:19 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm I do have the IMF. And don?t know the answer to your question on big gusts. I would have been too distracted in that instance to think about it. It is not my practice to be out in big wind ?. For the type of sailing that I do, this really isn?t a big deal. It is just the principle of the thing that it bothers me. I would like the boat to be right. Sent from my iPhone Susan Crane > On Jun 4, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Hank wrote: > > Raking the mast back should increase weather helm, but if you have IMF > that may not be possible. What if you get a big gust and start to get > knocked over? Does it still stay with lee helm? It should transition > to more of a weather helm as it heels. > >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Susan Crane wrote: >> >> I do understand the concept and have seen that article. Apparently >> adjusting the sails is not sufficient to correct my lee helm. Even >> with a full main and very small jib, it still tended to go downwind >> or am I missing something. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf Of Hank >> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 3:54 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >> >> Here's an article on it that may help. >> >> http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html >> >> Hank >> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: >>> >>> Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the >> rigging. >>> My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went >>> out and fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in >>> the bow) and >> the >>> centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I >>> didn't >> know >>> to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? >>> >>> Susan Crane >>> s/v Whimsy R22 1986 >>> Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf >>> Of >>> Graham Stewart >>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM >>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>> >>> JimA >>> My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm >>> means that the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can >>> be fixed by adjusting the rigging. >>> >>> >>> Graham Stewart >>> Agile. R22, 1976 >>> Kingston Ontario Canada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >> Behalf >>> Of >>> Jim A >>> Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>> >>> I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. >>> Is >>> this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my >>> 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I >>> never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> JimA >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From steven.w.bauman at nasa.gov Mon Jun 4 16:38:04 2018 From: steven.w.bauman at nasa.gov (Bauman, Steven W. (GRC-LMT0)) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:38:04 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> Message-ID: <3F628880B2FC9541B1FB58296741CFFA21726794@NDJSMBX104.ndc.nasa.gov> You want to make sure your Rudder is as far down as it can go, and the retraction line is snugged taut. I think when it is, it may actually extend a bit forward of its pivot axes. If the rudder is not down all the way, the tiller forces are much higher. Steve, Sandusky Bay, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 3:54 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm Here's an article on it that may help. http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html Hank On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the rigging. > My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out > and fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the > bow) and the centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather > helm. I didn't know to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? > > Susan Crane > s/v Whimsy R22 1986 > Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf Of Graham Stewart > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > JimA > My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm > means that the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be > fixed by adjusting the rigging. > > > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf Of Jim A > Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. > Is > this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st > and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never > sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... > > Thanks, > JimA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From scranevmd at verizon.net Mon Jun 4 16:43:34 2018 From: scranevmd at verizon.net (Susan Crane) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:43:34 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> <60C68313-3D48-483F-B0E5-344A3ECFCD49@verizon.net> Message-ID: <849BCABA-0A8A-4194-8FA3-361F8F3903B5@verizon.net> I have the 175 but rarely use all of it. Sent from my iPhone Susan Crane VMD > On Jun 4, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > Susan, > What head sail do you have? I had the 175 and have found the 135 to be more manageable in big wind gusts. - rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Susan Crane > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 4:19 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm > > I do have the IMF. And don?t know the answer to your question on big gusts. I would have been too distracted in that instance to think about it. It is not my practice to be out in big wind ?. For the type of sailing that I do, this really isn?t a big deal. It is just the principle of the thing that it bothers me. I would like the boat to be right. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Susan Crane > >> On Jun 4, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Hank wrote: >> >> Raking the mast back should increase weather helm, but if you have IMF >> that may not be possible. What if you get a big gust and start to get >> knocked over? Does it still stay with lee helm? It should transition >> to more of a weather helm as it heels. >> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Susan Crane wrote: >>> >>> I do understand the concept and have seen that article. Apparently >>> adjusting the sails is not sufficient to correct my lee helm. Even >>> with a full main and very small jib, it still tended to go downwind >>> or am I missing something. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >>> Behalf Of Hank >>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 3:54 PM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>> >>> Here's an article on it that may help. >>> >>> http://www.schoolofsailing.net/weather-helm-and-lee-helm.html >>> >>> Hank >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Susan Crane wrote: >>>> >>>> Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the >>> rigging. >>>> My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went >>>> out and fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in >>>> the bow) and >>> the >>>> centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I >>>> didn't >>> know >>>> to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? >>>> >>>> Susan Crane >>>> s/v Whimsy R22 1986 >>>> Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >>> Behalf >>>> Of >>>> Graham Stewart >>>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM >>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>>> >>>> JimA >>>> My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm >>>> means that the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can >>>> be fixed by adjusting the rigging. >>>> >>>> >>>> Graham Stewart >>>> Agile. R22, 1976 >>>> Kingston Ontario Canada >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On >>> Behalf >>>> Of >>>> Jim A >>>> Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm >>>> >>>> I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. >>>> Is >>>> this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my >>>> 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I >>>> never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> JimA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 16:56:08 2018 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 16:56:08 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: <849BCABA-0A8A-4194-8FA3-361F8F3903B5@verizon.net> References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> <00cc01d3fc3e$ef56c750$ce0455f0$@net> <60C68313-3D48-483F-B0E5-344A3ECFCD49@verizon.net> <849BCABA-0A8A-4194-8FA3-361F8F3903B5@verizon.net> Message-ID: Susan, If you have a 175 jib, IMF and diamond board, try sailing with the jib completely unfurled. That will move the center of force aft. If that doesn't give you neutral helm, perhaps your forestay is too short. For those sailing with weather helm, that is completely unnecessary for safety. The flared hull shape forces the boat to round up when overpowered. So relax. Regards, Rick From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 17:42:24 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 23:42:24 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med Message-ID: So Bob ask for a picture of his former trailer. Attached for you Bob is a fabulous picture, well a pretty good one anyway. Just finishing emptying everything out of the boat. Will tow it down to Matero Marina about 17 km away, north along the coast. Then I'll come back for all the crap. Somehow water got in either last year in the Port of Baltimore, The port of Barcelona or in the storage shed. Made more of a mess than real damage. Only lost a half dozen tools and will need to clean up some more. At least it was fresh water. The tongue of the trailer is welded on and is about 52+mm whereas all the ball hitches here in Spain are 50mm. This makes for a less than secure fit. Not easy to switch out tongues hence the empty trailer tow. Thinking of some bicycle inner tubes to add some extra resistance to jumping off the ball. Well Friday at 6am should prove the theory. Gulp. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graham -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Susan Crane Sent: June 4, 2018 3:50 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm Can you give a few more details on what you mean by adjusting the rigging. My boat has always tended to have a mild lee helm. One day I went out and fiddled with sails, weight (eg full vs empty water tank in the bow) and the centerboard and could not get it to sail with weather helm. I didn't know to adjust the rigging. So what adjustment would you start with? Susan Crane s/v Whimsy R22 1986 Bohemia River, Chesapeake Bay, MD -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:13 AM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm JimA My Rhodes has a mild weather helm - as you would want. A lee helm means that the sails are out of balance with the boat and this can be fixed by adjusting the rigging. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jim A Sent: June 4, 2018 7:07 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm I saw a post somewhere (not here) that stated the Rhodes 22 has lee helm. Is this true? I am new here as well as to sailing and looking for my 1st and probably last boat. I think the Rhodes would fit the bill. I never sailed on a boat with leem helm. Seems frightening.......... Thanks, JimA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Tue Jun 5 19:05:20 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:05:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] navigation light repair Message-ID: <1528239920219-0.post@n5.nabble.com> what brand light is on the bow port and starboard navigation light? I need to repair the light and I am not sure how to remove the lens to get to the bulb and I don't want to pry the entire thing off into the water. ----- Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Tue Jun 5 20:49:02 2018 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 20:49:02 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] navigation light repair In-Reply-To: <1528239920219-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528239920219-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris I recently upgraded my nav lights to LEDs. My Rhodes has the side lights mounted on the cabin sides as per pic 1. I'm not sure what you have on Opus but they could be like mine or as per pic 2. Nevertheless, they are easy to replace and if they are not LEDs already you'll be glad you upgraded. The days when Perko and Aqua-signal could charge $80 to $120 for a nav light replacement are over and you can get great quality replacements for $15 to $20. Check out Amazon... Hope the racing is going well....huge amount of fun. You' have to invest in a code zero now! Cheers ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > what brand light is on the bow port and starboard navigation light? I need > to repair the light and I am not sure how to remove the lens to get to the > bulb and I don't want to pry the entire thing off into the water. > > > > ----- > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nav light 2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 248722 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nav light 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32648 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Tue Jun 5 20:56:20 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 00:56:20 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] navigation light repair In-Reply-To: References: <1528239920219-0.post@n5.nabble.com>, Message-ID: <8B3E3129-FB77-4B24-B573-F3301FCE7506@cowieassociates.com> Yes, the code zero! Thanks for the input on the lights, I did notice the pricey perko lights. I am working on a parts web site and repair and refurbishing company to serve the Rhodes community in time to advertise at the boat show. We should discuss my new efforts over a beer sometime. Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jun 5, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Richard Beytagh > wrote: Hi Chris I recently upgraded my nav lights to LEDs. My Rhodes has the side lights mounted on the cabin sides as per pic 1. I'm not sure what you have on Opus but they could be like mine or as per pic 2. Nevertheless, they are easy to replace and if they are not LEDs already you'll be glad you upgraded. The days when Perko and Aqua-signal could charge $80 to $120 for a nav light replacement are over and you can get great quality replacements for $15 to $20. Check out Amazon... Hope the racing is going well....huge amount of fun. You' have to invest in a code zero now! Cheers ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Chris Cowie > wrote: what brand light is on the bow port and starboard navigation light? I need to repair the light and I am not sure how to remove the lens to get to the bulb and I don't want to pry the entire thing off into the water. ----- Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: nav light 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32648 bytes Desc: not available URL: __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From stan at rhodes22.com Tue Jun 5 23:43:41 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 23:43:41 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] navigation light repair In-Reply-To: <8B3E3129-FB77-4B24-B573-F3301FCE7506@cowieassociates.com> References: <1528239920219-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <8B3E3129-FB77-4B24-B573-F3301FCE7506@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a declaration of war with all of wars negative effects. posted by the General in General Boats On 6/5/18 8:56 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > Yes, the code zero! Thanks for the input on the lights, I did notice the pricey perko lights./*I am working on a parts web site _and repair and refurbishing company > to serve the Rhodes community in time to advertise at the boat show_. */ > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jun 5, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Richard Beytagh > wrote: > > Hi Chris > > I recently upgraded my nav lights to LEDs. My Rhodes has the side lights > mounted on the cabin sides as per pic 1. I'm not sure what you have on Opus > but they could be like mine or as per pic 2. Nevertheless, they are easy to > replace and if they are not LEDs already you'll be glad you upgraded. The > days when Perko and Aqua-signal could charge $80 to $120 for a nav light > replacement are over and you can get great quality replacements for $15 to > $20. Check out Amazon... > > Hope the racing is going well....huge amount of fun. You' have to invest in > a code zero now! > > Cheers > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > Richard Beytagh > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Chris Cowie > > wrote: > > what brand light is on the bow port and starboard navigation light? I need > to repair the light and I am not sure how to remove the lens to get to the > bulb and I don't want to pry the entire thing off into the water. > > > > ----- > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: nav light 2.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 248722 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: nav light 1.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 32648 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ayesailaway at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 06:10:04 2018 From: ayesailaway at gmail.com (Jim A) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 03:10:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] weather helm vs lee helm In-Reply-To: References: <1528110438971-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <00d501d3fc16$903b1eb0$b0b15c10$@ca> <00cb01d3fc3d$3b13e300$b13ba900$@net> Message-ID: <1528279804750-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi Bob, Thank you so much for the invitation. That is extremely kind. I would love to join you for a test sail in the future but you will be barraged with questions. We did decide to go the recycled route but have not yet started the ball rolling. Thanks again!! Jim Allison P/v 4 kayaks (hopefully I'll belong here someday with a Rhodes S/v) Camp Hill, PA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu Wed Jun 6 08:12:39 2018 From: C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu (C. Robert Lester) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:12:39 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... In-Reply-To: <00d401d3fc13$ecd226d0$c6767470$@ca> References: <00d401d3fc13$ecd226d0$c6767470$@ca> Message-ID: I like to hear that. I disassembled the "tube" running from cockpit to hull and didn't see it there. I'm hesitant to unscrew the hull plug atop of the keel compartment as I don't want to disturb the water tight integrity. I cannot find any "pics" in archives of the keel compartment (internally). If anyone knows of some pics, kindly share with me. Thanks much, Bob '84 Orion -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:54 AM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... Most likely it will drop straight out the bottom of the keel unless it got tangled in the centerboard line - in which case you would probably feel it as you raised the line. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of C. Robert Lester Sent: June 3, 2018 5:25 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board | Foreign Object... ....was dropped into the centerboard hole. I was cleaning out debris from the chase that gives the centerboard line access from cockpit to center board. I dropped the tool I was using into the hole! Will this interrupt the functioning of the centerboard or will it most likely fall completely out once the centerboard is fully lowered? *The tool was a 12" long, stiff piece of wire (like a straight piece of coat hanger). Thanks, Bob __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frhodes22-list&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C4879d3e05e4745feafb408d5ca2b1849%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636637208897415115&sdata=Y%2FhrYeym1WGHa2Bf3DTNVy3eGZvAG29IH5OHikTo3a8%3D&reserved=0 For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Flist&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C4879d3e05e4745feafb408d5ca2b1849%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636637208897415115&sdata=6Z8XtvITdtUQTlk%2BYUhYrdpZY%2FdanS7JvUQBJ2mw51k%3D&reserved=0 __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frhodes22-list&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C4879d3e05e4745feafb408d5ca2b1849%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636637208897415115&sdata=Y%2FhrYeym1WGHa2Bf3DTNVy3eGZvAG29IH5OHikTo3a8%3D&reserved=0 For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Flist&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C4879d3e05e4745feafb408d5ca2b1849%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636637208897415115&sdata=6Z8XtvITdtUQTlk%2BYUhYrdpZY%2FdanS7JvUQBJ2mw51k%3D&reserved=0 __________________________________________________ From C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu Wed Jun 6 08:45:50 2018 From: C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu (C. Robert Lester) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:45:50 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wonderful pic! Good luck to Enosis & the Captain on the trip to launch. Bob '84 Orion -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 5:42 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med So Bob ask for a picture of his former trailer. Attached for you Bob is a fabulous picture, well a pretty good one anyway. Just finishing emptying everything out of the boat. Will tow it down to Matero Marina about 17 km away, north along the coast. Then I'll come back for all the crap. Somehow water got in either last year in the Port of Baltimore, The port of Barcelona or in the storage shed. Made more of a mess than real damage. Only lost a half dozen tools and will need to clean up some more. At least it was fresh water. The tongue of the trailer is welded on and is about 52+mm whereas all the ball hitches here in Spain are 50mm. This makes for a less than secure fit. Not easy to switch out tongues hence the empty trailer tow. Thinking of some bicycle inner tubes to add some extra resistance to jumping off the ball. Well Friday at 6am should prove the theory. Gulp. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I could mail you one. Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 02:12:14 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:12:14 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hey Alex, I considered that, such a simple and elegant solution. Alas, the type of hitch arrangement is a single roughly 1" steel rod with a welded on 50mm ball. All available rentals (and they are far and few between) have such an arrangement. Drat! Looks like I will be McGyvering the situation. After all, it only came off the hitch once last year on a 50km trip at 80 kmph on a freeway here in Spain. I only have to go 16 km at a sedate 50 kmph. Thanks again for the offer! Might need someone to express some CheezIts as I am getting dangerously low on those golden bits of the nectar of heaven. (grin) Good news! After insisting that I have an International Certificate of Competency, among a plethora of other documents the marina decided to look the other way. So I now have a date with the ramp on Tuesday. Yesterday I raised the mast, then found the missing hardware............don't cha know! It was a test anyway since it is bad form to tow a Rhodes with the mast up. Today starts with a nice 1mile walk through the village, then past some small factories and then through a sunken lane and through some farmers fields to the boat. Think I'll drop the mast, attach the mic hdw and raise it again to make sure everything is "bale" as they say in Catalonia, then drop it one last time. I'll service the motor and test it then assemble the rudder to be sure everything is fine. Can't recall the number of times over the years some part of the disassembled rudder takes a walkabout. Might compound the hull if the rain doesn't start up again. Well that's about it from here. Attached is a photo of part of my walk to the boat that I go through each morning. Oh and that is the road I will be towing the boat out of. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:30 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > Hey Chris > > Can you bolt an American 2? ball on a metric drawbar? I could mail you > one. > > > Alex > > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Enjoy, Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 21:29:22 2018 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 21:29:22 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Plan to end your summer cruising in Larnaca Cyprus. You might just decide to spend the winter there! On Mon, Jun 4, 2018, 5:42 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > So Bob ask for a picture of his former trailer. Attached for you Bob is a > fabulous picture, well a pretty good one anyway. > > Just finishing emptying everything out of the boat. Will tow it down to > Matero Marina about 17 km away, north along the coast. Then I'll come back > for all the crap. Somehow water got in either last year in the Port of > Baltimore, The port of Barcelona or in the storage shed. Made more of a > mess than real damage. Only lost a half dozen tools and will need to clean > up some more. At least it was fresh water. The tongue of the trailer is > welded on and is about 52+mm whereas all the ball hitches here in Spain are > 50mm. This makes for a less than secure fit. Not easy to switch out > tongues hence the empty trailer tow. Thinking of some bicycle inner tubes > to add some extra resistance to jumping off the ball. Well Friday at 6am > should prove the theory. Gulp. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_3736.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3157027 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20180604/bedcfa6a/attachment.jpe > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 02:50:46 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 08:50:46 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: <1528409807520-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1528409807520-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Oh to be on the water, any water. Enosis has been on the hard for almost 2 years. No competition Alex, it i!s all about enjoying the moment. Well that and the anticipation. Eat some perch for me! Yup Time on the water is what counts. Do post pictures I enjoy so much when the list posts them. Oh, STILL can't get 3rd party liability (required) insurance locally (it's a "flag" thing). Can't even find one state side, but am still looking. Anyone know who would be willing to insure a U.S. flag vessel in the med with liability only? Hm I hope I just "crowd sourced" the solution! (grin) Chris G Enosis I On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:16 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > You live the adventure. Towing down that road is an adventure. > > In lackluster comparison I pull tomorrow for a few precious days on Erie > next weekend, not sure where yet. I?ll post a photo of a laker or > something to ?compete? with your mediteranian paradise. Spanish seafood > is > great, but Lake Erie perch has nothing to be ashamed of and nights will be > in the low 60s for good sleeping. Time on the water. > > Enjoy, Alex > > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Jun 8 08:43:37 2018 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 08:43:37 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1528409807520-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <458a4c2e-6cfc-8a24-85d1-51d924c1cedb@atlanticbb.net> On the insurance no direct idea but these folks are brokers who deal with cruising boats worldwide. https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx Our mini-trawler Tara came insured through them and we've continued to work with them. I will add the caveat that at times their domestic reps have been a little scattered but it's always worked out. No idea how they are to deal with internationally but I believe they insure a lot of cruising boats. Mary Lou On 6/8/2018 2:50 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Oh to be on the water, any water. Enosis has been on the hard for almost 2 > years. No competition Alex, it i!s all about enjoying the moment. Well > that and the anticipation. Eat some perch for me! Yup Time on the water > is what counts. Do post pictures I enjoy so much when the list posts > them. Oh, STILL can't get 3rd party liability (required) insurance locally > (it's a "flag" thing). Can't even find one state side, but am still > looking. Anyone know who would be willing to insure a U.S. flag vessel in > the med with liability only? Hm I hope I just "crowd sourced" the > solution! (grin) > > Chris G > Enosis I > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:16 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > >> You live the adventure. Towing down that road is an adventure. >> >> In lackluster comparison I pull tomorrow for a few precious days on Erie >> next weekend, not sure where yet. I?ll post a photo of a laker or >> something to ?compete? with your mediteranian paradise. Spanish seafood >> is >> great, but Lake Erie perch has nothing to be ashamed of and nights will be >> in the low 60s for good sleeping. Time on the water. >> >> Enjoy, Alex >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Alex Cole >> S/V Lark >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From rbeytagh at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 09:22:01 2018 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:22:01 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1528409807520-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: When I had my boat in the Med, I had liability insurance with Lloyds. They also issued me with a "Small Ships Register" which I used everywhere when checking in. Very useful and widely accepted as the only documentation needed while cruising the Med. Not sure if they still issue the SSR or if you can get Liability only through them, but I can make some inquiries if this would be useful. Cheers ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 2:50 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Oh to be on the water, any water. Enosis has been on the hard for almost 2 > years. No competition Alex, it i!s all about enjoying the moment. Well > that and the anticipation. Eat some perch for me! Yup Time on the water > is what counts. Do post pictures I enjoy so much when the list posts > them. Oh, STILL can't get 3rd party liability (required) insurance locally > (it's a "flag" thing). Can't even find one state side, but am still > looking. Anyone know who would be willing to insure a U.S. flag vessel in > the med with liability only? Hm I hope I just "crowd sourced" the > solution! (grin) > > Chris G > Enosis I > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:16 AM, S/V Lark > wrote: > > > You live the adventure. Towing down that road is an adventure. > > > > In lackluster comparison I pull tomorrow for a few precious days on Erie > > next weekend, not sure where yet. I?ll post a photo of a laker or > > something to ?compete? with your mediteranian paradise. Spanish seafood > > is > > great, but Lake Erie perch has nothing to be ashamed of and nights will > be > > in the low 60s for good sleeping. Time on the water. > > > > Enjoy, Alex > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > Alex Cole > > S/V Lark > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 15:09:18 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 21:09:18 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: <458a4c2e-6cfc-8a24-85d1-51d924c1cedb@atlanticbb.net> References: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1528409807520-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <458a4c2e-6cfc-8a24-85d1-51d924c1cedb@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: Oh Hi Mary Lou, Thanks for the lead, I will give them a call, or have my wife as it is only 2pm where she is. I'll let you know how it works out. Chris G. S/V Enosis On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > On the insurance no direct idea but these folks are brokers who deal with > cruising boats worldwide. > > https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx > > Our mini-trawler Tara came insured through them and we've continued to > work with them. I will add the caveat that at times their domestic reps > have been a little scattered but it's always worked out. No idea how they > are to deal with internationally but I believe they insure a lot of > cruising boats. > > Mary Lou > > > > On 6/8/2018 2:50 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > >> Oh to be on the water, any water. Enosis has been on the hard for almost >> 2 >> years. No competition Alex, it i!s all about enjoying the moment. Well >> that and the anticipation. Eat some perch for me! Yup Time on the water >> is what counts. Do post pictures I enjoy so much when the list posts >> them. Oh, STILL can't get 3rd party liability (required) insurance >> locally >> (it's a "flag" thing). Can't even find one state side, but am still >> looking. Anyone know who would be willing to insure a U.S. flag vessel in >> the med with liability only? Hm I hope I just "crowd sourced" the >> solution! (grin) >> >> Chris G >> Enosis I >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:16 AM, S/V Lark >> wrote: >> >> You live the adventure. Towing down that road is an adventure. >>> >>> In lackluster comparison I pull tomorrow for a few precious days on Erie >>> next weekend, not sure where yet. I?ll post a photo of a laker or >>> something to ?compete? with your mediteranian paradise. Spanish seafood >>> is >>> great, but Lake Erie perch has nothing to be ashamed of and nights will >>> be >>> in the low 60s for good sleeping. Time on the water. >>> >>> Enjoy, Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Alex Cole >>> S/V Lark >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 01:23:00 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:23:00 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: <458a4c2e-6cfc-8a24-85d1-51d924c1cedb@atlanticbb.net> References: <1528324219117-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1528409807520-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <458a4c2e-6cfc-8a24-85d1-51d924c1cedb@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: Hi Mary Lou, I had Alice check with them, alas they do not insure in the Med, at least under our circumstances. I'll just keep trying. Thanks again fo the thought. Chris Geankoplis Enosis On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > On the insurance no direct idea but these folks are brokers who deal with > cruising boats worldwide. > > https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx > > Our mini-trawler Tara came insured through them and we've continued to > work with them. I will add the caveat that at times their domestic reps > have been a little scattered but it's always worked out. No idea how they > are to deal with internationally but I believe they insure a lot of > cruising boats. > > Mary Lou > > > > On 6/8/2018 2:50 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > >> Oh to be on the water, any water. Enosis has been on the hard for almost >> 2 >> years. No competition Alex, it i!s all about enjoying the moment. Well >> that and the anticipation. Eat some perch for me! Yup Time on the water >> is what counts. Do post pictures I enjoy so much when the list posts >> them. Oh, STILL can't get 3rd party liability (required) insurance >> locally >> (it's a "flag" thing). Can't even find one state side, but am still >> looking. Anyone know who would be willing to insure a U.S. flag vessel in >> the med with liability only? Hm I hope I just "crowd sourced" the >> solution! (grin) >> >> Chris G >> Enosis I >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:16 AM, S/V Lark >> wrote: >> >> You live the adventure. Towing down that road is an adventure. >>> >>> In lackluster comparison I pull tomorrow for a few precious days on Erie >>> next weekend, not sure where yet. I?ll post a photo of a laker or >>> something to ?compete? with your mediteranian paradise. Spanish seafood >>> is >>> great, but Lake Erie perch has nothing to be ashamed of and nights will >>> be >>> in the low 60s for good sleeping. Time on the water. >>> >>> Enjoy, Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Alex Cole >>> S/V Lark >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From jcbblackb at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 07:42:53 2018 From: jcbblackb at gmail.com (John Blackburn) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:42:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising Message-ID: Hello everyone, I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that the mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance from the group. I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the cabin top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in there at all. The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, fill with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. The questions I have are: 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a plate inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level of confidence. 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to boat, secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. Thank you Best Regards John Blackburn Snow Hill Md From Colealexander at hotmail.com Sat Jun 9 08:25:11 2018 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 05:25:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move. Stress on the block is down and aft not up. The line to the bow cleat effectively continues to the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, The pole redirects it only. Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book needs to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - something snagged? Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 9 08:29:57 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 08:29:57 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: have no idea what you guys are talking about On 6/9/18 8:25 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move. Stress on the block > is down and aft not up. The line to the bow cleat effectively continues to > the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, The > pole redirects it only. Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book needs > to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. > If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - > something snagged? > > Alex > > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Sat Jun 9 08:48:50 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:48:50 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com>, Message-ID: The block should not have any load pulling out of the deck unless you are doing something wrong. the idea is to let the block pull out if you do something wrong so its easy to repair. If you bolt the block it will do more damage to the deck when in error. Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Stan Spitzer > wrote: have no idea what you guys are talking about On 6/9/18 8:25 AM, S/V Lark wrote: I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move. Stress on the block is down and aft not up. The line to the bow cleat effectively continues to the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, The pole redirects it only. Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book needs to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - something snagged? Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 09:16:31 2018 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:16:31 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: 3M 5200 is the same as bolting. Use 4200. On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 8:48 AM Chris Cowie wrote: > The block should not have any load pulling out of the deck unless you are > doing something wrong. the idea is to let the block pull out if you do > something wrong so its easy to repair. If you bolt the block it will do > more damage to the deck when in error. > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Stan Spitzer stan at rhodes22.com>> wrote: > > have no idea what you guys are talking about > > On 6/9/18 8:25 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move. Stress on the > block > is down and aft not up. The line to the bow cleat effectively continues > to > the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, > The > pole redirects it only. Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book > needs > to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. > If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - > something snagged? > > Alex > > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From charles.gabriel at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 09:34:13 2018 From: charles.gabriel at gmail.com (Charles Gabriel) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:34:13 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi John, Exactly what problems are you having with the block ? Charles Gabriel On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:42 AM John Blackburn wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that the > mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance from > the group. > > I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the cabin > top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after > reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in there > at all. > > The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, fill > with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. > > The questions I have are: > 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a plate > inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level of > confidence. > > 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to boat, > secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. > > Thank you > Best Regards > John Blackburn > Snow Hill Md > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 9 09:46:56 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:46:56 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Charles,? Do you have any idea of any block that the mast hoist winch attaches to?? What block, assuming by block everyone means a pulley? On 6/9/18 9:34 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: > Hi John, > Exactly what problems are you having with the block ? > Charles Gabriel > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:42 AM John Blackburn wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that the >> mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance from >> the group. >> >> I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the cabin >> top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after >> reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in there >> at all. >> >> The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, fill >> with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. >> >> The questions I have are: >> 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a plate >> inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level of >> confidence. >> >> 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to boat, >> secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. >> >> Thank you >> Best Regards >> John Blackburn >> Snow Hill Md >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From charles.gabriel at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 10:05:25 2018 From: charles.gabriel at gmail.com (Charles Gabriel) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 10:05:25 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I assume it's the rectangular piece of plastic just forward of the mast step... To which the mast hoist attaches. What's the proper name for it ? Should be attached to the cabin to by 2 machine screws. If the holes for those screws were drilled too large then the hoist might pull loose at certain times. On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 9:47 AM Stan Spitzer wrote: > Hi Charles, Do you have any idea of any block that the mast hoist winch > attaches to? What block, assuming by block everyone means a pulley? > > On 6/9/18 9:34 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: > > Hi John, > > Exactly what problems are you having with the block ? > > Charles Gabriel > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:42 AM John Blackburn wrote: > > > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that the > >> mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance > from > >> the group. > >> > >> I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the > cabin > >> top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after > >> reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in > there > >> at all. > >> > >> The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, fill > >> with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. > >> > >> The questions I have are: > >> 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a plate > >> inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level of > >> confidence. > >> > >> 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to > boat, > >> secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. > >> > >> Thank you > >> Best Regards > >> John Blackburn > >> Snow Hill Md > >> __________________________________________________ > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >> > >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> __________________________________________________ > >> > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 9 10:45:50 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 10:45:50 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I get it, it's a semantic problem.? By block they mean a block of plastic not a sailboat block.? The world is leaving me behind semantically.? I used my food stamp credit card at Food Lion the other day and the screen said, "put in your Pin number *Or* press continue" so I put in my pin number.? Nothing happened.? I finally had to interrupt the check out lady who was dong her nails. She came around and pushed "continue".? I pointed out the lighted screen, which said "Or"?? She explained that these days "Or" no longer means or, it means "And".? I always say, "live and learn". If I had died at 91 I would never have learned that today sailors who use the word block, now mean a plate. Thanks On 6/9/18 10:05 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: > I assume it's the rectangular piece of plastic just forward of the mast > step... To which the mast hoist attaches. > > What's the proper name for it ? > > Should be attached to the cabin to by 2 machine screws. If the holes for > those screws were drilled too large then the hoist might pull loose at > certain times. > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 9:47 AM Stan Spitzer wrote: > >> Hi Charles, Do you have any idea of any block that the mast hoist winch >> attaches to? What block, assuming by block everyone means a pulley? >> >> On 6/9/18 9:34 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: >>> Hi John, >>> Exactly what problems are you having with the block ? >>> Charles Gabriel >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:42 AM John Blackburn wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that the >>>> mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance >> from >>>> the group. >>>> >>>> I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the >> cabin >>>> top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after >>>> reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in >> there >>>> at all. >>>> >>>> The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, fill >>>> with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. >>>> >>>> The questions I have are: >>>> 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a plate >>>> inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level of >>>> confidence. >>>> >>>> 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to >> boat, >>>> secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Best Regards >>>> John Blackburn >>>> Snow Hill Md >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From charles.gabriel at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 10:51:03 2018 From: charles.gabriel at gmail.com (Charles Gabriel) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 10:51:03 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: so what is the proper title for this piece of plastic ? and would the correct approach be to fill and re drill / re tap the holes in the cabin top ? On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 10:45 AM Stan Spitzer wrote: > I get it, it's a semantic problem. By block they mean a block of > plastic not a sailboat block. The world is leaving me behind > semantically. I used my food stamp credit card at Food Lion the other > day and the screen said, "put in your Pin number *Or* press continue" so > I put in my pin number. Nothing happened. I finally had to interrupt > the check out lady who was dong her nails. She came around and pushed > "continue". I pointed out the lighted screen, which said "Or" She > explained that these days "Or" no longer means or, it means "And". I > always say, "live and learn". If I had died at 91 I would never have > learned that today sailors who use the word block, now mean a plate. > > Thanks > > On 6/9/18 10:05 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: > > I assume it's the rectangular piece of plastic just forward of the mast > > step... To which the mast hoist attaches. > > > > What's the proper name for it ? > > > > Should be attached to the cabin to by 2 machine screws. If the holes for > > those screws were drilled too large then the hoist might pull loose at > > certain times. > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 9:47 AM Stan Spitzer wrote: > > > >> Hi Charles, Do you have any idea of any block that the mast hoist winch > >> attaches to? What block, assuming by block everyone means a pulley? > >> > >> On 6/9/18 9:34 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: > >>> Hi John, > >>> Exactly what problems are you having with the block ? > >>> Charles Gabriel > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:42 AM John Blackburn > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello everyone, > >>>> > >>>> I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that > the > >>>> mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance > >> from > >>>> the group. > >>>> > >>>> I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the > >> cabin > >>>> top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after > >>>> reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in > >> there > >>>> at all. > >>>> > >>>> The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, > fill > >>>> with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. > >>>> > >>>> The questions I have are: > >>>> 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a > plate > >>>> inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level > of > >>>> confidence. > >>>> > >>>> 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to > >> boat, > >>>> secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you > >>>> Best Regards > >>>> John Blackburn > >>>> Snow Hill Md > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >>>> > >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > >> go > >>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> __________________________________________________ > >> __________________________________________________ > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >> > >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> __________________________________________________ > >> > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sat Jun 9 11:17:43 2018 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:17:43 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001e01d40005$053c9580$0fb5c080$@ebsmed.com> Ah, vintage Spitzer. So much for the evolution of language. OK, Stan, will you please comment on the proper fixation of the mast raising plate so that we all may get back to sailing? Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 10:46 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising I get it, it's a semantic problem. By block they mean a block of plastic not a sailboat block. The world is leaving me behind semantically. I used my food stamp credit card at Food Lion the other day and the screen said, "put in your Pin number *Or* press continue" so I put in my pin number. Nothing happened. I finally had to interrupt the check out lady who was dong her nails. She came around and pushed "continue". I pointed out the lighted screen, which said "Or" She explained that these days "Or" no longer means or, it means "And". I always say, "live and learn". If I had died at 91 I would never have learned that today sailors who use the word block, now mean a plate. Thanks From jcbblackb at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 13:46:26 2018 From: jcbblackb at gmail.com (John Blackburn) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:46:26 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Thank you for all the responses. I will correct "block" to " plastic plate". The original problem was when hoisting the mast and about 2/3 of the way up the plastic plate came out and the mast fell. When I went to re-screw it the bolts would not snug up and kept turning. I am concerned that the plastic plate will come out if I attempt it again without securing it. I have raised the mast many times over the 5 years I have owned the boat without any trouble, and did nothing different this time. The boat spends winters indoors, so I would not think anything would deteriorate. Should I coat the bolt with 4200 and reinsert in the hole? or fill the hole with 4200 and reinsert bolt? The original installation instructions say* " drill 7/32 holes for the fasteners into the cabin top (which is over an inch thick at this point) being careful not to drill so deeply you come out into the inside of the cabin. Put some caulking in these holes. The machine screw fasteners will self tap into the holes securing the plate to the cabin top" * Thanks everyone - sorry for using block as in a block of plastic instead of Plate. Wasn't sure what to call it. Best Regards John On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 8:25 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move. Stress on the > block > is down and aft not up. The line to the bow cleat effectively continues > to > the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, > The > pole redirects it only. Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book > needs > to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. > If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - > something snagged? > > Alex > > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 9 13:56:22 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have none so settle for "Mast Crane mounting plate" My fix, since I do not want to give up the reasoning: Do not drill holes.? I put a shaving of wood and epoxy in each hole and let it set up. If time, wait a day, drill 3/16 or 7/64 holes? (I never go through to the interior), let the 1/4-20 FH machine screws tap themselves . On 6/9/18 10:51 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: > so what is the proper title for this piece of plastic ? > > and would the correct approach be to fill and re drill / re tap the holes > in the cabin top ? > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 10:45 AM Stan Spitzer wrote: > >> I get it, it's a semantic problem. By block they mean a block of >> plastic not a sailboat block. The world is leaving me behind >> semantically. I used my food stamp credit card at Food Lion the other >> day and the screen said, "put in your Pin number *Or* press continue" so >> I put in my pin number. Nothing happened. I finally had to interrupt >> the check out lady who was dong her nails. She came around and pushed >> "continue". I pointed out the lighted screen, which said "Or" She >> explained that these days "Or" no longer means or, it means "And". I >> always say, "live and learn". If I had died at 91 I would never have >> learned that today sailors who use the word block, now mean a plate. >> >> Thanks >> >> On 6/9/18 10:05 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: >>> I assume it's the rectangular piece of plastic just forward of the mast >>> step... To which the mast hoist attaches. >>> >>> What's the proper name for it ? >>> >>> Should be attached to the cabin to by 2 machine screws. If the holes for >>> those screws were drilled too large then the hoist might pull loose at >>> certain times. >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 9:47 AM Stan Spitzer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Charles, Do you have any idea of any block that the mast hoist winch >>>> attaches to? What block, assuming by block everyone means a pulley? >>>> >>>> On 6/9/18 9:34 AM, Charles Gabriel wrote: >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> Exactly what problems are you having with the block ? >>>>> Charles Gabriel >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:42 AM John Blackburn >> wrote: >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have had some trouble over the past few years with the block that >> the >>>>>> mast raising winch attaches to, and thought I would get some guidance >>>> from >>>>>> the group. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought that it looked like the bolts that secure the block to the >>>> cabin >>>>>> top had stripped the nuts that are buried in the fiberglass. But after >>>>>> reading the block installation instructions - there are not nuts in >>>> there >>>>>> at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> The installation instructions say to drill holes in the cabin top, >> fill >>>>>> with caulk and the machine screws will self tap into the caulk. >>>>>> >>>>>> The questions I have are: >>>>>> 1). I was thinking of drilling through the cabin top and putting a >> plate >>>>>> inside and securing with a bolt and nut - that would give me a level >> of >>>>>> confidence. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) what kind of "caulk" could be used that would secure the bolts to >>>> boat, >>>>>> secure enough to attach the winch to and raise the mast. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>> John Blackburn >>>>>> Snow Hill Md >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>>> go >>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From Colealexander at hotmail.com Sat Jun 9 14:05:33 2018 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:05:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1528567533972-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Stab. Technically I?m innocent, thanks to autocorrect. My post said book. If Book isn?t an official general boat?s term I?m still wrong, but at least not a blockhead. What is the official term for the plastic deck fitting the crane bolts to called? While we are in the educating mode, what is the official term for the cubby or nook under the winch where aI stuff the tail end of my jibsheet? Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 9 14:05:57 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 14:05:57 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: <1528547111748-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <3fc735e2-1fe9-e439-9abc-8aabb38ef35c@rhodes22.com> the mast fell.? Which way; back or sideways?? At 2/3rds up there is hardly any lateral force on this plate so screws are in sheer and the mast's down thrust would make it unlikely that the plate under the mast would move.? Unless the mast was not being supported as intended, from side forces. On 6/9/18 1:46 PM, John Blackburn wrote: > Thank you for all the responses. I will correct "block" to " plastic plate". > > The original problem was when hoisting the mast and about 2/3 of the way up > the plastic plate came out and the mast fell. When I went to re-screw it > the bolts would not snug up and kept turning. I am concerned that the > plastic plate will come out if I attempt it again without securing it. > > I have raised the mast many times over the 5 years I have owned the boat > without any trouble, and did nothing different this time. The boat spends > winters indoors, so I would not think anything would deteriorate. > > Should I coat the bolt with 4200 and reinsert in the hole? or fill the hole > with 4200 and reinsert bolt? > > The original installation instructions say* " drill 7/32 holes for the > fasteners into the cabin top (which is over an inch thick at this point) > being careful not to drill so deeply you come out into the inside of the > cabin. Put some caulking in these holes. The machine screw fasteners will > self tap into the holes securing the plate to the cabin top" * > > Thanks everyone - sorry for using block as in a block of plastic instead of > Plate. Wasn't sure what to call it. > Best Regards > John > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 8:25 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > >> I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move. Stress on the >> block >> is down and aft not up. The line to the bow cleat effectively continues >> to >> the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, >> The >> pole redirects it only. Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book >> needs >> to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. >> If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - >> something snagged? >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Alex Cole >> S/V Lark >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From Colealexander at hotmail.com Sat Jun 9 14:06:24 2018 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:06:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1528567584844-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Stan. Technically I?m innocent, thanks to autocorrect. My post said book. If Book isn?t an official general boat?s term I?m still wrong, but at least not a blockhead. What is the official term for the plastic deck fitting the crane bolts to called? While we are in the educating mode, what is the official term for the cubby or nook under the winch where aI stuff the tail end of my jibsheet? Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 9 14:31:38 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 14:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: <1528567533972-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528567533972-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8a85be32-3e06-0623-0678-68f2e01df9e5@rhodes22.com> You were not in my sights.? I thought everyone was talking about a block coming out of the deck and the mast hoist does not use any blocks, anywhere.?? I use the name "coaming compartments" for the gunnel storage facilities under the sheet winches but will go with whatever words Rhodies vote on.? I want to stay timely, if not ahead of the times. (Anyone ever visit Tarrytown Contemporaries) There are no Rhodies blockheads.? In fact I don't think there are any 22s with coaming compartments. This may legalize the naming of these two strategic boxes, up to the Rhodes community. On 6/9/18 2:05 PM, S/V Lark wrote: > Stab. Technically I?m innocent, thanks to autocorrect. My post said book. > If Book isn?t an official general boat?s term I?m still wrong, but at least > not a blockhead. What is the official term for the plastic deck fitting > the crane bolts to called? > > While we are in the educating mode, what is the official term for the cubby > or nook under the winch where aI stuff the tail end of my jibsheet? > > Alex > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From jbconnolly at comcast.net Sat Jun 9 14:42:00 2018 From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (Jim Connolly) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:42:00 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: Mast raising Message-ID: Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Connolly Date: Jun 9, 2018 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising To: stan at rhodes22.com Cc: > Additional context to Stan's post... > > The one time this happened to me, I was in a hurry and one of the two aft stays caught (on the stern rail-mounted tiller extension holders, iirc). The mast stopped going up about 2/3 up. I couldn't see problem from the bow. When I reversed the winch to lower the mast, the foot of the mast crane popped off the deck. > > No damage (except to the plastic block, as per Stan's design). It's supposed to pop off and spare the deck more serious damage. > > If the mast raising doesn't go as planned, I'd suggest not putting more tension than designed on the system, and figuring out the problem before you try again. > > My $0.02. > > Jim Connolly > Former owner 2002-2015 > > Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone > On Jun 9, 2018 2:05 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > > > > > the mast fell.? Which way; back or sideways?? At 2/3rds up there is > > hardly any lateral force on this plate so screws are in sheer and the > > mast's down thrust would make it unlikely that the plate under the mast > > would move.? Unless the mast was not being supported as intended, from > > side forces. > > > > On 6/9/18 1:46 PM, John Blackburn wrote: > > > Thank you for all the responses. I will correct "block" to " plastic plate". > > > > > > The original problem was when hoisting the mast and about 2/3 of the way up > > > the plastic plate came out and the mast fell. When I went to re-screw it > > > the bolts would not snug up and kept turning. I am concerned that the > > > plastic plate will come out if I attempt it again without securing it. > > > > > > I have raised the mast many times over the 5 years I have owned the boat > > > without any trouble, and did nothing different this time. The boat spends > > > winters indoors, so I would not think anything would deteriorate. > > > > > > Should I coat the bolt with 4200 and reinsert in the hole? or fill the hole > > > with 4200 and reinsert bolt? > > > > > > The original installation instructions say* " drill 7/32 holes for the > > > fasteners into the cabin top (which is over an inch thick at this point) > > > being careful not to drill so deeply you come out into the inside of the > > > cabin. Put some caulking in these holes. The machine screw fasteners will > > > self tap into the holes securing the plate to the cabin top" * > > > > > > Thanks everyone - sorry for using block as in a block of plastic instead of > > > Plate. Wasn't sure what to call it. > > > Best Regards > > > John > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 8:25 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > > > > > >> I?d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move.??? Stress on the > > >> block > > >> is down and aft not up.?? The line to the bow cleat effectively continues > > >> to > > >> the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress, > > >> The > > >> pole redirects it only.??? Until Stan wakes up, I don?t think the book > > >> needs > > >> to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide. > > >> If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress - > > >> something snagged? > > >> > > >> Alex > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- > > >> Alex Cole > > >> S/V Lark > > >> -- > > >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > >> __________________________________________________ > > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > >> > > >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > >> __________________________________________________ > > >> > > > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ From Colealexander at hotmail.com Sat Jun 9 14:58:48 2018 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:58:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: <8a85be32-3e06-0623-0678-68f2e01df9e5@rhodes22.com> References: <8a85be32-3e06-0623-0678-68f2e01df9e5@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: <1528570728384-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks Stan. Coaming compartment. I only knew the definition of coaming as the raised area around a hatch. I?m now slightly smarter then I used to be. I actually wasted half an hour on an internet search last week trying to figure that one out. Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From koatimundi100 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 19:33:36 2018 From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:33:36 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re Sailing the Med Message-ID: Hurry up Chris! I?ll be in Venice (not with Aeolia) end of July and was hoping for a sail on the lagoon. Sorry to hear of your tribulations but glad you?re handling them with your legendary good humor. Peter Klappert (Hi Alice!) From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 15:29:19 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 21:29:19 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med (almost) Message-ID: Well everything is ready for the big day. Probably Tuesday. Don't know if I am renting a van and towing it myself or if a tilt bed truck will take it down to the marina. Raised and lowered the mast without the block-omatic-plate-o--fantastic-plastic coming off, this time. Mast is totally rigged and ready to go with set up for trailering. Did spend some time repairing the damage the boat suffered to the rub rail, it came out OK. Check back at Bob's picture of his trailer. that shows the damage.. Attached is a picture of Enosis ready to go with the repair done and all cleaned up. The paint job is 9 years old and is just now starting to fail. I have a solution for the U.S. flag/insurance problem. Isn't money great. Seems you can fix anything with enough of it. As a last resort: I can get my own corporation in England. Transfer title to my corporation then have the boat flagged with a Dutch flag . Now I can get local insurance. Ta Da ! All for 650 euros ($765) . Oh, I still will need to buy the insurance which isn't much, about 250 bucks. Still well worth it! Especially when I get in the water. Chris Geankoplis Enosis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3208.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1591172 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3745.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2389778 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 16:58:01 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:58:01 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re Sailing the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Peter, Unless I portage the boat from Livorno to the Po, it ain't gonna happen. But there are plenty of Gondolas and gondoliers to give you the tour. I would love to get to Venice but that will be next year when we head to Croatia. Yes when dealing with bureaucracy and the inevitable setbacks humor does help, and vino rojo muy vino rojo. Chris G > Enosis On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 1:33 AM, peter klappert wrote: > Hurry up Chris! I?ll be in Venice (not with Aeolia) end of July and was > hoping for a sail on the lagoon. Sorry to hear of your tribulations but > glad you?re handling them with your legendary good humor. Peter Klappert > (Hi Alice!) > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Sun Jun 10 19:14:33 2018 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 19:14:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising In-Reply-To: <1528567533972-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1528567533972-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <77c7e12c-a530-9cf0-38fd-7c359300fed2@atlanticbb.net> We always called it the "coaming box" Mary Lou ex R22 now Rosborough RF-246? Tara On 6/9/2018 2:05 PM, S/V Lark wrote: > Stab. Technically I?m innocent, thanks to autocorrect. My post said book. > If Book isn?t an official general boat?s term I?m still wrong, but at least > not a blockhead. What is the official term for the plastic deck fitting > the crane bolts to called? > > While we are in the educating mode, what is the official term for the cubby > or nook under the winch where aI stuff the tail end of my jibsheet? > > Alex > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mbersonod at aol.com Tue Jun 12 02:33:12 2018 From: mbersonod at aol.com (Marc Berson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 00:33:12 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <1528785201.ScrofwDkBeuR1ScrpfrCFv@mf-smf-ucb022c1> http://question.jakebell.me Marc Berson From retiredtoby at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 10:49:30 2018 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:49:30 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stains and Dirt Message-ID: I have searched Google looking for ways to clean and remove stains from a sail. Nobody seems to agree and there are those that tout the dangers of using certain chemicals. Trying to clean and remove stains from my 2 year old 130 jib from Stan. Does anyone on the list have personal and practical experience on this subject? Hopefully something that works without excessive measures. Thanks! Cary Radford, VA From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Wed Jun 13 11:49:28 2018 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:49:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stains and Dirt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b101d4032e$1cfeb320$56fc1960$@ca> Practical Sailor has reviewed sail cleaning products and gives excellent and practical advice: Here is one comments in an article from: https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/44_2/features/Quick-and-Safe-Sail-Cl eaning_12353-1.html "We then tackled a sail that had been a birds' nest for a few weeks. We tried Formula B and Starbrite Canvas and Sal Cleaner; both removed the surface dirt, but none appreciably affected the underlying stains. We then attacked the stains with CS-530 and Oxiclean, using procedures similar to those described for the cushions. Winds were very light and on the bow, the sail is full batten and does not flog, so we scrubbed the stains right on the spars, hoisting and lowering as needed for access. In all cases, the stains were greatly reduced within two hours, and then vanished completely after several days' exposure to the sun while sailing. Again, the lesson is that UV finishes the job, so quit when you are about 80 percent of the way there." Basically it boils down to Oxiclean and sunlight. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert Sent: June 13, 2018 10:50 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stains and Dirt I have searched Google looking for ways to clean and remove stains from a sail. Nobody seems to agree and there are those that tout the dangers of using certain chemicals. Trying to clean and remove stains from my 2 year old 130 jib from Stan. Does anyone on the list have personal and practical experience on this subject? Hopefully something that works without excessive measures. Thanks! Cary Radford, VA __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From retiredtoby at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 12:10:10 2018 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:10:10 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stains and Dirt In-Reply-To: <00b101d4032e$1cfeb320$56fc1960$@ca> References: <00b101d4032e$1cfeb320$56fc1960$@ca> Message-ID: Thanks Graham! Much appreciated. Cary On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Graham Stewart wrote: > Practical Sailor has reviewed sail cleaning products and gives excellent > and > practical advice: > Here is one comments in an article from: > https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/44_2/features/ > Quick-and-Safe-Sail-Cl > eaning_12353-1.html > > "We then tackled a sail that had been a birds' nest for a few weeks. We > tried Formula B and Starbrite Canvas and Sal Cleaner; both removed the > surface dirt, but none appreciably affected the underlying stains. We then > attacked the stains with CS-530 and Oxiclean, using procedures similar to > those described for the cushions. > > Winds were very light and on the bow, the sail is full batten and does not > flog, so we scrubbed the stains right on the spars, hoisting and lowering > as > needed for access. In all cases, the stains were greatly reduced within two > hours, and then vanished completely after several days' exposure to the sun > while sailing. Again, the lesson is that UV finishes the job, so quit when > you are about 80 percent of the way there." > > Basically it boils down to Oxiclean and sunlight. > > > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Cary Tolbert > Sent: June 13, 2018 10:50 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stains and Dirt > > I have searched Google looking for ways to clean and remove stains from a > sail. > Nobody seems to agree and there are those that tout the dangers of using > certain chemicals. > > Trying to clean and remove stains from my 2 year old 130 jib from Stan. > > Does anyone on the list have personal and practical experience on this > subject? Hopefully something that works without excessive measures. > > Thanks! > Cary > Radford, VA > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 13:32:22 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:32:22 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med Message-ID: The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Jun 16 14:07:43 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:07:43 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1be5a23c-76fe-14f3-1eb9-7c5c162699ec@rhodes22.com> don't want to add to your chores so sometime in the next few years when you run out of things to do, I would like to get a copy of the last picture in this series, for my 'Rhodes from around the world album'. the greatest part of this business is its vicarious division. thanks, stan On 6/16/18 1:32 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 14:21:14 2018 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <1be5a23c-76fe-14f3-1eb9-7c5c162699ec@rhodes22.com> References: <1be5a23c-76fe-14f3-1eb9-7c5c162699ec@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: Excellent Chris. Keep sending them pictures. What year is your boat? It does not have the bow facing ports, but it has an in-mast furling main. Luis S/V 1983 Aquetxali On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 2:07 PM Stan Spitzer wrote: > > don't want to add to your chores so sometime in the next few years when > you run out of things to do, I would like to get a copy of the last > picture in this series, for my 'Rhodes from around the world album'. > > the greatest part of this business is its vicarious division. > > thanks, > > stan > > On 6/16/18 1:32 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > pictures. > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 15:51:36 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:51:36 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <1be5a23c-76fe-14f3-1eb9-7c5c162699ec@rhodes22.com> References: <1be5a23c-76fe-14f3-1eb9-7c5c162699ec@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: Hi Stan! Of course! I'll take lots of picts, you choose which ever you wish. Rhodes around the world? I like the sound of that. Imitation is the truest form of flattery, so I think I shall make an album of the best of Enosis from around the world. Alas no giant saltwater crocks eating the boat (grin). I can't wait to send you the Rhodes on a rode in Rhodes harbor. Heck I guess a harbor can be considered place to anchor hence a Road i.e. Annapolis Roads. Alice is due in a few days and once the rest of the paperwork gets straightened out we are on our way! Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > don't want to add to your chores so sometime in the next few years when > you run out of things to do, I would like to get a copy of the last picture > in this series, for my 'Rhodes from around the world album'. > > the greatest part of this business is its vicarious division. > > thanks, > > stan > > > On 6/16/18 1:32 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > >> The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land >> based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. >> Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgY >> HoFCM/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> Chris Geankoplis >> S/V Enosis >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 15:56:44 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:56:44 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1be5a23c-76fe-14f3-1eb9-7c5c162699ec@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: Hey Luis, Same as yours, an '83. I've had this one since 2004. Things are getting close to actually sailing out into the Med. I love it here in Spain, and especially here a bit north of the bustle and tourism of Barcelona. Don't see any tourists and few foreign owned boats in the large marina. I'll keep everyone posted, just maybe on a daily basis. So when are you going to take it over to the Bahamas? Absolutely perfect for the Rhodes. Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Luis Guzman wrote: > Excellent Chris. Keep sending them pictures. > > What year is your boat? It does not have the bow facing ports, but it has > an in-mast furling main. > > Luis > S/V 1983 Aquetxali > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 2:07 PM Stan Spitzer wrote: > > > > > don't want to add to your chores so sometime in the next few years when > > you run out of things to do, I would like to get a copy of the last > > picture in this series, for my 'Rhodes from around the world album'. > > > > the greatest part of this business is its vicarious division. > > > > thanks, > > > > stan > > > > On 6/16/18 1:32 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of > land > > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > > pictures. > > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > S/V Enosis > > > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 17 02:01:14 2018 From: lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com (Jim White) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:01:14 -0900 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <1529215280.UQkYfDKAZXhLXUQkafGARG@mf-smf-ucb028c3> http://aim.siemens-family.com Jim White From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Sun Jun 17 07:54:07 2018 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:54:07 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005501d40631$e5c89900$b159cb00$@ca> Is it just my imagination or does she look much happier now that she is in the water? Some people think boats don't have feelings but how then do you explain her look of contentment? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis Sent: June 16, 2018 1:32 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=s haring Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 17 14:21:25 2018 From: bobandkathyr22 at bellsouth.net (Rhodes Net) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 11:21:25 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <1529259692.UcIufcexsfLLDUcIufeYdT@mf-smf-ucb024c1> http://aim.911classiccenter.com Rhodes Net From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 11:44:57 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:44:57 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <005501d40631$e5c89900$b159cb00$@ca> References: <005501d40631$e5c89900$b159cb00$@ca> Message-ID: Uh, could be the Vino Rojo I christen it with, I got the most however. As I wrote Peter, there are still had some odd issues . " " So I had to remove the bow pulpit to get the height overall under 8 feet otherwise there would have been an additional 350 bucks at least. So I thought I had taped over the 16 screwholes but wasn't too worried as the boat was bow up and going the next day onto the ship. Took two weeks and a number of thunderstorms to get the boat on the ship. And someone took it upon themselves to lower the boat to a bow down position. Had my own freshwater catchment system. And a nicely finished cistern. I suspect the flotation took on a bit of water and it is slowly releasing it. It was a chore removing and reinstalling the bow pulpit. It is not backed with a plate but I had replaced the rather small washers with heavy duty way oversized ones.. So we shall see how the boat bilge is tomorrow morning. Attached are a couple of picts of the exposed hull and a temporary compression post as the mast is up and I had to remove the regular one to get the floor out. On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Graham Stewart wrote: > Is it just my imagination or does she look much happier now that she is in > the water? Some people think boats don't have feelings but how then do you > explain her look of contentment? > > > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Chris Geankoplis > Sent: June 16, 2018 1:32 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=s > haring > > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 21:17:15 2018 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:17:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I fear we may never hear from you again once you start your odyssey. Cruising the Med is so compelling you may end up like Rod Heikell who started sailing the Med in the 80's and is still at it, and who writes the best pilot Guides to the Med. A worthwhile investment ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7-tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 15:57:09 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:57:09 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Richard, I assume you have read "Accidental Sailor" about how he ended up in the Med?. Actually funny you mentioned him. I contacted him about my intention to do what I am doing and we exchanged a lot of emails and problem solved a lot of challenges. He actually was instrumental in connecting me with some key people that made this happen. Yeh his guides are excellent, I own almost all of them. Hopefully it will not take me 21 years to get to Ithaca and my wife has no suitors, only me! Nothing exciting to report other than Alice arrived yesterday and our first full day started slow as she was adjusting to the 6 hour time difference. 12:00 noon found us at one of the many cafes overlooking the marina and about 8 miles of coast north. Alice drank her 2 cups of coffee and had her pastry, and I enjoyed a cold beer. There were probably more cafes and restaurants along this stretch of coast than in the whole of the Bahamas. We enjoy each venu, but it is kind of easy on the constitution to sit back and enjoy epicurean aspect of Spain. Got a deal on a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? Around 1:00 pm had a nice lunch on the boat with air cured thinly slice ham on fresh baked bred and lots of fruit. Then go invited out for another lunch at 3, so of course we went and had a very nice light Thai 2nd lunch, sounds sort like a Hobbit's diet. Maybe tomorrow I'll work on the mast. Hmm, who was it that turned Odysseus' men into pigs? Must have happened here in Spain. Chris & Alice (now) Enosis I On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Richard Beytagh wrote: > I fear we may never hear from you again once you start your odyssey. > Cruising the Med is so compelling you may end up like Rod Heikell who > started sailing the Med in the 80's and is still at it, and who writes the > best pilot Guides to the Med. A worthwhile investment > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > Richard Beytagh > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > pictures. > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 15:57:46 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:57:46 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <1471512291.568182.1529523894461@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1471512291.568182.1529523894461@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey elle, I'll say "hi" to your relatives over in Italy! Yup we are really close to breaking through the waves of beurachracy and windstorms of paper work into the sunshine and fairwinds of compliance (well sorta compliance). Chris and now Alice Enosis I On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 9:44 PM, elle via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Way to go , Chris! Looking good. > elle > > On Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:32 PM, Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some pictures. > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From peter at sunnybeeches.com Thu Jun 21 17:21:13 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:21:13 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bow Roller (was: Wet in the Med) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94B6D4D0-EEFB-43E1-A4B2-8E2CCDDB1CC3@sunnybeeches.com> I had a bow roller on my to-do list for this spring, but couldn?t decide exactly how to mount it, and besides, I ran out of time. I?d be interested in hearing from anyone who?s done it, or even thought about it. As always, pictures would be greatly appreciated. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Jun 21, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > .... Got a deal on > a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the > bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? ... > > Chris & Alice (now) > Enosis I > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 01:35:35 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 07:35:35 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bow Roller (was: Wet in the Med) In-Reply-To: <94B6D4D0-EEFB-43E1-A4B2-8E2CCDDB1CC3@sunnybeeches.com> References: <94B6D4D0-EEFB-43E1-A4B2-8E2CCDDB1CC3@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: Hey Peter, The power of 2! So let's hope one of the more clever Rhodies has a solution. Chris On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > I had a bow roller on my to-do list for this spring, but couldn?t decide > exactly how to mount it, and besides, I ran out of time. I?d be interested > in hearing from anyone who?s done it, or even thought about it. As always, > pictures would be greatly appreciated. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On Jun 21, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > > .... Got a deal on > > a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the > > bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? ... > > > > Chris & Alice (now) > > Enosis I > > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From daysails at aol.com Fri Jun 22 08:58:44 2018 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:58:44 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <164279354fa-c8e-183a8@webjas-vae043.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Chris, I am beginning to believe you are the perfect stranger. Every time I get to a place you have visited, you have slipped your anchor and headed on. I almost caught sight of you in Los Cabos, again in Port Townsend and again in upstate New York. I will be in Barcelona in late September early October on my way to join a cruise on the Duoro river in Portugal. I suspect you will have moved on by then and I will search the countless bars north of Barcelona in vain. I enjoy your writing and look forward to reading about you on Meds and actually catching sight of you someday. Joe Riley S/V Second Wind Lake Hartwell. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Geankoplis To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Sent: Thu, Jun 21, 2018 3:57 pm Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med Hey Richard, I assume you have read "Accidental Sailor" about how he ended up in the Med?. Actually funny you mentioned him. I contacted him about my intention to do what I am doing and we exchanged a lot of emails and problem solved a lot of challenges. He actually was instrumental in connecting me with some key people that made this happen. Yeh his guides are excellent, I own almost all of them. Hopefully it will not take me 21 years to get to Ithaca and my wife has no suitors, only me! Nothing exciting to report other than Alice arrived yesterday and our first full day started slow as she was adjusting to the 6 hour time difference. 12:00 noon found us at one of the many cafes overlooking the marina and about 8 miles of coast north. Alice drank her 2 cups of coffee and had her pastry, and I enjoyed a cold beer. There were probably more cafes and restaurants along this stretch of coast than in the whole of the Bahamas. We enjoy each venu, but it is kind of easy on the constitution to sit back and enjoy epicurean aspect of Spain. Got a deal on a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? Around 1:00 pm had a nice lunch on the boat with air cured thinly slice ham on fresh baked bred and lots of fruit. Then go invited out for another lunch at 3, so of course we went and had a very nice light Thai 2nd lunch, sounds sort like a Hobbit's diet. Maybe tomorrow I'll work on the mast. Hmm, who was it that turned Odysseus' men into pigs? Must have happened here in Spain. Chris & Alice (now) Enosis I On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Richard Beytagh wrote: > I fear we may never hear from you again once you start your odyssey. > Cruising the Med is so compelling you may end up like Rod Heikell who > started sailing the Med in the 80's and is still at it, and who writes the > best pilot Guides to the Med. A worthwhile investment > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > Richard Beytagh > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of land > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > pictures. > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 02:44:56 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 08:44:56 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <164279354fa-c8e-183a8@webjas-vae043.srv.aolmail.net> References: <164279354fa-c8e-183a8@webjas-vae043.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Ha Richard! Sounds like you would have married my wife if hadn't gotten to Munich before you! Too funny. Yes I will have sailed off to somewhere else. I will caution you about exploring bars here in Spain, especially the more seedy ones. After reading your email I, uh, well told them, you would be picking up my bar tabs and gave them your name and picture. (evil grin). The to do list is getting shorter and just have to get rid of the stinkin' trailer. Had to change out as expected my propane tank, regulator for the stove and control valve for the little propane canisters for the BBQ. Still need to go over the electrical system it is acting a bit odd. It seems we might have to move the waterline closer to the rub rail. Where does all this "esential" crap come from. I think it must have been cloning itself while in storage. What a cool country and area. We spent a leisurely 2 hours sampling tapas and drinks in the main plaza here in Matero and then went back to the boat to sleep. Ha! It was a very big holiday last night/today, Saint John's day here in Catalonia. To demonstrate ones religious fervor one sets off vast, ney, epic quantities of fireworks; for hours, ney, the whole night. I thought New Years in Naples involved more explosive than used in WWII but this place came close last night. Just when you would drift into sleep, BAM! Someone with access to some M-80's or flash-bangs would let loose. It was fun! Oh here is the first of the last steps to go sailing here in Spain. I am now flying both the Spanish flag and Catalonian flag. See attached. Chris & Alice Geankoplis ENOSIS I On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Sling via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > I am beginning to believe you are the perfect stranger. Every time I get > to a place you have visited, you have slipped your anchor and headed on. I > almost caught sight of you in Los Cabos, again in Port Townsend and again > in upstate New York. I will be in Barcelona in late September early > October on my way to join a cruise on the Duoro river in Portugal. I > suspect you will have moved on by then and I will search the countless bars > north of Barcelona in vain. I enjoy your writing and look forward to > reading about you on Meds and actually catching sight of you someday. Joe > Riley S/V Second Wind Lake Hartwell. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Geankoplis > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Sent: Thu, Jun 21, 2018 3:57 pm > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med > > Hey Richard, > I assume you have read "Accidental Sailor" about how he > ended up in the Med?. Actually funny you mentioned him. I contacted him > about my intention to do what I am doing and we exchanged a lot of emails > and problem solved a lot of challenges. He actually was instrumental in > connecting me with some key people that made this happen. Yeh his guides > are excellent, I own almost all of them. > > Hopefully it will not take me 21 years to get to Ithaca and my wife has no > suitors, only me! Nothing exciting to report other than Alice arrived > yesterday and our first full day started slow as she was adjusting to the 6 > hour time difference. 12:00 noon found us at one of the many cafes > overlooking the marina and about 8 miles of coast north. Alice drank her 2 > cups of coffee and had her pastry, and I enjoyed a cold beer. There were > probably more cafes and restaurants along this stretch of coast than in the > whole of the Bahamas. We enjoy each venu, but it is kind of easy on the > constitution to sit back and enjoy epicurean aspect of Spain. Got a deal on > a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the > bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? Around 1:00 > pm had a nice lunch on the boat with air cured thinly slice ham on fresh > baked bred and lots of fruit. Then go invited out for another lunch at 3, > so of course we went and had a very nice light Thai 2nd lunch, sounds sort > like a Hobbit's diet. Maybe tomorrow I'll work on the mast. Hmm, who was > it that turned Odysseus' men into pigs? Must have happened here in Spain. > > Chris & Alice (now) > Enosis I > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Richard Beytagh > wrote: > > > I fear we may never hear from you again once you start your odyssey. > > Cruising the Med is so compelling you may end up like Rod Heikell who > > started sailing the Med in the 80's and is still at it, and who writes > the > > best pilot Guides to the Med. A worthwhile investment > > > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > > > Richard Beytagh > > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Geankoplis < > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of > land > > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > > pictures. > > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > S/V Enosis > > > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5001.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1966282 bytes Desc: not available URL: From marlangreen at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 08:35:36 2018 From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 08:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1986 Rhodes 22 (Recycled 2010) For Sale - Edgewater, MD Message-ID: I am selling my beloved Rhodes. Built in 1986 and recycled by Stan in 2010. It has most all of the amenities including: fully functioning head with pump-out, captain's seats, solar panels, motorized outboard lift, in-mast furling main, Bimini & sails date to 2010. Over this past winter the 2011 Mercury Big Foot 9 HP Outboard was fully serviced, the bottom sanded and painted with two coats of Petite Trinidad, and the hull waxed. There is no boom room or pop-top cover. I have never felt like I needed them in my sailing on the Chesapeake. There is no trailer. The boat is kept in the water except when hauled for maintenance. I have attached a few photos that are a few years old, but give you an idea of the boat. I am happy to answer questions and provide more information. Asking price: $10,000, but of course open to negotiation. (I will be honest here, I'm not exactly sure where to set the asking price so I just went with a round number. If this seems high, don't be put off by it. Contact me and we can discuss.) I will miss her greatly, and because of that I really do want her to go to a good home and someone who will use her and appreciate her. Marlan Green -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20140322_174110.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1734334 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Sun Jun 24 09:21:12 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 06:21:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on the bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay and roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. ----- Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From jamcando126 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 24 12:39:15 2018 From: jamcando126 at yahoo.com (John McLaughlin) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:39:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1986 Rhodes 22 (Recycled 2010) For Sale - Edgewater, MD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where is the boat located? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2018, at 8:35 AM, "marlangreen at gmail.com" wrote: > > I am selling my beloved Rhodes. > > Built in 1986 and recycled by Stan in 2010. It has most all of the > amenities including: fully functioning head with pump-out, captain's seats, > solar panels, motorized outboard lift, in-mast furling main, Bimini & > sails date to 2010. Over this past winter the 2011 Mercury Big Foot 9 HP > Outboard was fully serviced, the bottom sanded and painted with two coats > of Petite Trinidad, and the hull waxed. There is no boom room or pop-top > cover. I have never felt like I needed them in my sailing on the > Chesapeake. There is no trailer. The boat is kept in the water except when > hauled for maintenance. I have attached a few photos that are a few years > old, but give you an idea of the boat. > > I am happy to answer questions and provide more information. > > Asking price: $10,000, but of course open to negotiation. > (I will be honest here, I'm not exactly sure where to set the asking price > so I just went with a round number. If this seems high, don't be put off by > it. Contact me and we can discuss.) > > I will miss her greatly, and because of that I really do want her to go to > a good home and someone who will use her and appreciate her. > > Marlan Green > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20140322_174110.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1734334 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From marlangreen at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 12:46:16 2018 From: marlangreen at gmail.com (marlangreen at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:46:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1986 Rhodes 22 (Recycled 2010) For Sale - Edgewater, MD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The boat is located near Edgewater, MD as stated in the subject line. On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 12:39 PM John McLaughlin via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Where is the boat located? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 24, 2018, at 8:35 AM, "marlangreen at gmail.com" < > marlangreen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I am selling my beloved Rhodes. > > > > Built in 1986 and recycled by Stan in 2010. It has most all of the > > amenities including: fully functioning head with pump-out, captain's > seats, > > solar panels, motorized outboard lift, in-mast furling main, Bimini & > > sails date to 2010. Over this past winter the 2011 Mercury Big Foot 9 HP > > Outboard was fully serviced, the bottom sanded and painted with two coats > > of Petite Trinidad, and the hull waxed. There is no boom room or pop-top > > cover. I have never felt like I needed them in my sailing on the > > Chesapeake. There is no trailer. The boat is kept in the water except > when > > hauled for maintenance. I have attached a few photos that are a few years > > old, but give you an idea of the boat. > > > > I am happy to answer questions and provide more information. > > > > Asking price: $10,000, but of course open to negotiation. > > (I will be honest here, I'm not exactly sure where to set the asking > price > > so I just went with a round number. If this seems high, don't be put off > by > > it. Contact me and we can discuss.) > > > > I will miss her greatly, and because of that I really do want her to go > to > > a good home and someone who will use her and appreciate her. > > > > Marlan Green > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: 20140322_174110.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 1734334 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20180624/93997738/attachment.jpg > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From asnooch at aol.com Sun Jun 24 12:55:21 2018 From: asnooch at aol.com (asnooch at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:55:21 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1529259692.UcIufcexsfLLDUcIufeYdT@mf-smf-ucb024c1> References: <1529259692.UcIufcexsfLLDUcIufeYdT@mf-smf-ucb024c1> Message-ID: <16432b8afaf-c8f-1559@webjas-vac250.srv.aolmail.net> Dear Rhodies... That time has definitely arrived.... I'm about to hit that 80 mark and my 82 updated Rhodes 22 must be sold... She is sound, with over two thousand dollars in updates... good sails, 2 radios, racing fittings and lewmar clutches, lazy jacks, cusions, bimini, 9 hp electric Mercury Outboard, excellent condition, new ladder, stansions, nets, hatches, map gps, and much much more... sorry no trailer... other options available... $best offer over $1200. of course will send pics to serious interested buyers... Burt 631-506-7099. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes Net To: peterklappert ; The Rhodes 22 Email List ; ric ; Richard ; Craig Margaret Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2018 2:36 pm Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) http://aim.911classiccenter.com Rhodes Net __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From stan at rhodes22.com Sun Jun 24 12:56:31 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:56:31 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: unit supplied by owner, installation by GB at plant. On 6/24/18 9:21 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on the > bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to > deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay and > roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a > clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. > > > > > ----- > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Sun Jun 24 13:05:14 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:05:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bow Roller (was: Wet in the Med) In-Reply-To: <94B6D4D0-EEFB-43E1-A4B2-8E2CCDDB1CC3@sunnybeeches.com> References: <94B6D4D0-EEFB-43E1-A4B2-8E2CCDDB1CC3@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: <1529859914798-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I am trying to post a better image of the bow roller installed in 2010 ----- Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 15:19:10 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 21:19:10 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Ah Ha, Looks like a clever install. Thanks Chris this should help me in my Quest. Hey Stan, I guess this isn't covered under warranty? Yes I've been looking at a lot of small sailboats here in the marina (1,000 + slips and 50% are sailboats). And have a couple of Ideas too. Well we shall see. Right now the Rocna is lashed to the bow pulpit, it works but isn't very elegant or neat. Chris & Alice ENOSIS On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > unit supplied by owner, installation by GB at plant. > > > On 6/24/18 9:21 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > >> Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on >> the >> bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to >> deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay >> and >> roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a >> clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. >> > 1-4D15-9D9E-0E5FFD0276C5.jpeg> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Christopher P. Cowie >> >> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >> Suite 300 >> Washington, DC 20007 >> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 15:22:06 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 21:22:06 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bow Roller (was: Wet in the Med) In-Reply-To: <1529859914798-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <94B6D4D0-EEFB-43E1-A4B2-8E2CCDDB1CC3@sunnybeeches.com> <1529859914798-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Oh Chris, I see how that works now. It has a bail that the forestay is secured to. I'll check around and see what that modification would cost. Thanks again. Chris & Alice ENOSIS On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > I am trying to post a better image of the bow roller installed in 2010 > > B863-4FED-B45E-8296A38A12DA.jpeg> > > > > ----- > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From jadoucet at snet.net Sun Jun 24 16:28:56 2018 From: jadoucet at snet.net (joseph doucet) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:28:56 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <16432b8afaf-c8f-1559@webjas-vac250.srv.aolmail.net> References: <1529259692.UcIufcexsfLLDUcIufeYdT@mf-smf-ucb024c1> <16432b8afaf-c8f-1559@webjas-vac250.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <22F237F1-BC47-4BAF-8857-FC9CD5E11BBE@snet.net> Where is your boat? Joe Joe Doucet 203-512-5629 > On Jun 24, 2018, at 12:55 PM, asnooch--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > Dear Rhodies... That time has definitely arrived.... I'm about to hit that 80 mark and my 82 updated Rhodes 22 must be sold... She is sound, with over two thousand dollars in updates... good sails, 2 radios, racing fittings and lewmar clutches, lazy jacks, cusions, bimini, 9 hp electric Mercury Outboard, excellent condition, new ladder, stansions, nets, hatches, map gps, and much much more... sorry no trailer... other options available... $best offer over $1200. of course will send pics to serious interested buyers... Burt 631-506-7099. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes Net > To: peterklappert ; The Rhodes 22 Email List ; ric ; Richard ; Craig Margaret > Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2018 2:36 pm > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) > > > http://aim.911classiccenter.com > > Rhodes Net > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From stan at rhodes22.com Sun Jun 24 17:25:11 2018 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 17:25:11 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: CG, "covered under warranty"; it depends: A shadowy figure of few words walked up to Elton and me at the Miami Show.? Said he represented a Columbia farmer.? Handed us a wad of cash and told us to leave a Rhodes at the Tampa pier on a day certain.? A great customer.? Never had a single complaint.? That was more than 20 years ago and that boat is still under warranty. When two scientist knocked on my door one night on Long Island and told me in spurts of understandable English they needed me to come to the USSR to show them how to build sailboats, the first stop after leaving the Moscow airport was a cemetery. I explained I was to be the first American allowed into their space facilities, not the first to grace their celebrity grave yard.? Showing me Khrushchev's sculpture stone, I was told that being allowed in this particular hallowed real estate was considered an honor.? When word got out I went to Purdue, they waned to shake my hand; wow I went to the school that put the first man on the moon. I explained I had absolutely nothing to do with that since he had not gotten their by a Rhodes, I just wanted out of their cemetery. The one thing I did come away with:? While they did not think much about our cars, they fall apart after a few years, they thought we made the best sailboats in the world, they last forever.? If any of that propaganda extends to the Med and you get tired of retiring, we need a partner to handle that part of the world (and all the rest). Roger Mac Gregor (who knew when to retire) told me 30% of his sales were export and so far we are 99.9998% behind reaching his balance. I did not want to forget the one that went to Lima. stan On 6/24/18 3:19 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Ah Ha, > Looks like a clever install. Thanks Chris this should help me in > my Quest. Hey Stan, I guess this isn't covered under warranty? Yes > I've been looking at a lot of small sailboats here in the marina (1,000 + > slips and 50% are sailboats). And have a couple of Ideas too. Well we > shall see. Right now the Rocna is lashed to the bow pulpit, it works but > isn't very elegant or neat. > > Chris & Alice > ENOSIS > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > >> unit supplied by owner, installation by GB at plant. >> >> >> On 6/24/18 9:21 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: >> >>> Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on >>> the >>> bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to >>> deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay >>> and >>> roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a >>> clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. >>> >> 1-4D15-9D9E-0E5FFD0276C5.jpeg> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Christopher P. Cowie >>> >>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >>> Suite 300 >>> Washington, DC 20007 >>> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Sun Jun 24 19:48:19 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:48:19 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , Message-ID: <6C26C170-77DD-45CC-8653-C793760697B7@cowieassociates.com> Chris g Let us know your ideas. Always looking for improvements Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jun 24, 2018, at 5:25 PM, Stan Spitzer > wrote: CG, "covered under warranty"; it depends: A shadowy figure of few words walked up to Elton and me at the Miami Show. Said he represented a Columbia farmer. Handed us a wad of cash and told us to leave a Rhodes at the Tampa pier on a day certain. A great customer. Never had a single complaint. That was more than 20 years ago and that boat is still under warranty. When two scientist knocked on my door one night on Long Island and told me in spurts of understandable English they needed me to come to the USSR to show them how to build sailboats, the first stop after leaving the Moscow airport was a cemetery. I explained I was to be the first American allowed into their space facilities, not the first to grace their celebrity grave yard. Showing me Khrushchev's sculpture stone, I was told that being allowed in this particular hallowed real estate was considered an honor. When word got out I went to Purdue, they waned to shake my hand; wow I went to the school that put the first man on the moon. I explained I had absolutely nothing to do with that since he had not gotten their by a Rhodes, I just wanted out of their cemetery. The one thing I did come away with: While they did not think much about our cars, they fall apart after a few years, they thought we made the best sailboats in the world, they last forever. If any of that propaganda extends to the Med and you get tired of retiring, we need a partner to handle that part of the world (and all the rest). Roger Mac Gregor (who knew when to retire) told me 30% of his sales were export and so far we are 99.9998% behind reaching his balance. I did not want to forget the one that went to Lima. stan On 6/24/18 3:19 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: Ah Ha, Looks like a clever install. Thanks Chris this should help me in my Quest. Hey Stan, I guess this isn't covered under warranty? Yes I've been looking at a lot of small sailboats here in the marina (1,000 + slips and 50% are sailboats). And have a couple of Ideas too. Well we shall see. Right now the Rocna is lashed to the bow pulpit, it works but isn't very elegant or neat. Chris & Alice ENOSIS On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Stan Spitzer > wrote: unit supplied by owner, installation by GB at plant. On 6/24/18 9:21 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on the bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay and roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. ----- Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma n/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma n/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Mon Jun 25 09:25:31 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:25:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <16432b8afaf-c8f-1559@webjas-vac250.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16432b8afaf-c8f-1559@webjas-vac250.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <1529933131951-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I am interested. Please send me an email ccowie at cowieassociates.com ----- Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 15:51:53 2018 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:51:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Quite a coincidence....many years ago I was cruising the Ionian with my then young kids on a Gulfstar 40 and we were moored up in Lefkas. We had just spent the night in an idyllic anchorage recommended by Rod Heikell's Ionian Waters Pilot and we were waxing lyrical on what a useful reference it was when we discovered Rod parked next to us. This was before he was married and was still in a small yacht. We gave him breakfast, got him to sign our Pilot and were on our way. ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Hey Richard, > I assume you have read "Accidental Sailor" about how he > ended up in the Med?. Actually funny you mentioned him. I contacted him > about my intention to do what I am doing and we exchanged a lot of emails > and problem solved a lot of challenges. He actually was instrumental in > connecting me with some key people that made this happen. Yeh his guides > are excellent, I own almost all of them. > > Hopefully it will not take me 21 years to get to Ithaca and my wife has no > suitors, only me! Nothing exciting to report other than Alice arrived > yesterday and our first full day started slow as she was adjusting to the 6 > hour time difference. 12:00 noon found us at one of the many cafes > overlooking the marina and about 8 miles of coast north. Alice drank her 2 > cups of coffee and had her pastry, and I enjoyed a cold beer. There were > probably more cafes and restaurants along this stretch of coast than in the > whole of the Bahamas. We enjoy each venu, but it is kind of easy on the > constitution to sit back and enjoy epicurean aspect of Spain. Got a deal on > a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the > bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? Around 1:00 > pm had a nice lunch on the boat with air cured thinly slice ham on fresh > baked bred and lots of fruit. Then go invited out for another lunch at 3, > so of course we went and had a very nice light Thai 2nd lunch, sounds sort > like a Hobbit's diet. Maybe tomorrow I'll work on the mast. Hmm, who was > it that turned Odysseus' men into pigs? Must have happened here in Spain. > > Chris & Alice (now) > Enosis I > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Richard Beytagh > wrote: > > > I fear we may never hear from you again once you start your odyssey. > > Cruising the Med is so compelling you may end up like Rod Heikell who > > started sailing the Med in the 80's and is still at it, and who writes > the > > best pilot Guides to the Med. A worthwhile investment > > > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > > > Richard Beytagh > > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Geankoplis < > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of > land > > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > > pictures. > > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > S/V Enosis > > > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 15:55:28 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:55:28 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Oh Stan, What great memories!. Colombian farmer. Well there was all teat wasted space where the foam flotation went. Hmmmm. Look, Stan. If Elon Musk can put a car into orbit we should be able to put a Rhodes into orbit if we had the right help from your Russian friends. Think of all the free publicity! As far as export numbers go, if I don't take my medication you can count me twice, sometimes 3 times on a bad day. (snarkey grin). Chris On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > CG, > > "covered under warranty"; it depends: > > A shadowy figure of few words walked up to Elton and me at the Miami > Show. Said he represented a Columbia farmer. Handed us a wad of cash and > told us to leave a Rhodes at the Tampa pier on a day certain. A great > customer. Never had a single complaint. That was more than 20 years ago > and that boat is still under warranty. > > When two scientist knocked on my door one night on Long Island and told me > in spurts of understandable English they needed me to come to the USSR to > show them how to build sailboats, the first stop after leaving the Moscow > airport was a cemetery. I explained I was to be the first American allowed > into their space facilities, not the first to grace their celebrity grave > yard. Showing me Khrushchev's sculpture stone, I was told that being > allowed in this particular hallowed real estate was considered an honor. > When word got out I went to Purdue, they waned to shake my hand; wow I went > to the school that put the first man on the moon. I explained I had > absolutely nothing to do with that since he had not gotten their by a > Rhodes, I just wanted out of their cemetery. > > The one thing I did come away with: While they did not think much about > our cars, they fall apart after a few years, they thought we made the best > sailboats in the world, they last forever. If any of that propaganda > extends to the Med and you get tired of retiring, we need a partner to > handle that part of the world (and all the rest). Roger Mac Gregor (who > knew when to retire) told me 30% of his sales were export and so far we are > 99.9998% behind reaching his balance. I did not want to forget the one that > went to Lima. > > stan > > > > On 6/24/18 3:19 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > >> Ah Ha, >> Looks like a clever install. Thanks Chris this should help me >> in >> my Quest. Hey Stan, I guess this isn't covered under warranty? Yes >> I've been looking at a lot of small sailboats here in the marina (1,000 + >> slips and 50% are sailboats). And have a couple of Ideas too. Well we >> shall see. Right now the Rocna is lashed to the bow pulpit, it works but >> isn't very elegant or neat. >> >> Chris & Alice >> ENOSIS >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >> >> unit supplied by owner, installation by GB at plant. >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/18 9:21 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: >>> >>> Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on >>>> the >>>> bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to >>>> deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay >>>> and >>>> roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a >>>> clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. >>>> >>> 1-4D15-9D9E-0E5FFD0276C5.jpeg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Christopher P. Cowie >>>> >>>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW >>>> Suite 300 >>>> Washington, DC 20007 >>>> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile >>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>>> go >>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >>> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 15:57:14 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:57:14 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: <6C26C170-77DD-45CC-8653-C793760697B7@cowieassociates.com> References: <1529846472411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <6C26C170-77DD-45CC-8653-C793760697B7@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: When struck by a b rilliant or even luminous idea I'll let the gang know. Chris G ENOSIS On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > Chris g > Let us know your ideas. Always looking for improvements > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jun 24, 2018, at 5:25 PM, Stan Spitzer @rhodes22.com>> wrote: > > > CG, > > "covered under warranty"; it depends: > > A shadowy figure of few words walked up to Elton and me at the Miami > Show. Said he represented a Columbia farmer. Handed us a wad of cash and > told us to leave a Rhodes at the Tampa pier on a day certain. A great > customer. Never had a single complaint. That was more than 20 years ago > and that boat is still under warranty. > > When two scientist knocked on my door one night on Long Island and told me > in spurts of understandable English they needed me to come to the USSR to > show them how to build sailboats, the first stop after leaving the Moscow > airport was a cemetery. I explained I was to be the first American allowed > into their space facilities, not the first to grace their celebrity grave > yard. Showing me Khrushchev's sculpture stone, I was told that being > allowed in this particular hallowed real estate was considered an honor. > When word got out I went to Purdue, they waned to shake my hand; wow I went > to the school that put the first man on the moon. I explained I had > absolutely nothing to do with that since he had not gotten their by a > Rhodes, I just wanted out of their cemetery. > > The one thing I did come away with: While they did not think much about > our cars, they fall apart after a few years, they thought we made the best > sailboats in the world, they last forever. If any of that propaganda > extends to the Med and you get tired of retiring, we need a partner to > handle that part of the world (and all the rest). Roger Mac Gregor (who > knew when to retire) told me 30% of his sales were export and so far we are > 99.9998% behind reaching his balance. I did not want to forget the one that > went to Lima. > > stan > > > On 6/24/18 3:19 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Ah Ha, > Looks like a clever install. Thanks Chris this should help me in > my Quest. Hey Stan, I guess this isn't covered under warranty? Yes > I've been looking at a lot of small sailboats here in the marina (1,000 + > slips and 50% are sailboats). And have a couple of Ideas too. Well we > shall see. Right now the Rocna is lashed to the bow pulpit, it works but > isn't very elegant or neat. > > Chris & Alice > ENOSIS > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Stan Spitzer stan at rhodes22.com>> wrote: > > unit supplied by owner, installation by GB at plant. > > > On 6/24/18 9:21 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > > Chris G: I think you may have asked about installing an anchor roller on > the > bow. Frank Tugwell installed one that allowed the anchor and rhode to > deploy from the anchor shelf without inter fearing with the forward stay > and > roller furling. Except for becoming a ramming device I think this is a > clever idea. I will try to insert an image for reference. > 1-4D15-9D9E-0E5FFD0276C5.jpeg> > > > > ----- > Christopher P. Cowie > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 16:00:49 2018 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:00:49 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wet in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey that is cool! Always loved Lefkas, it was the first Greek island I ever sailed to in my small boat back in the late '60's. Chris G ENOSIS On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Richard Beytagh wrote: > Quite a coincidence....many years ago I was cruising the Ionian with my > then young kids on a Gulfstar 40 and we were moored up in Lefkas. We had > just spent the night in an idyllic anchorage recommended by Rod Heikell's > Ionian Waters Pilot and we were waxing lyrical on what a useful reference > it was when we discovered Rod parked next to us. This was before he was > married and was still in a small yacht. We gave him breakfast, got him to > sign our Pilot and were on our way. > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > Richard Beytagh > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Hey Richard, > > I assume you have read "Accidental Sailor" about how he > > ended up in the Med?. Actually funny you mentioned him. I contacted him > > about my intention to do what I am doing and we exchanged a lot of emails > > and problem solved a lot of challenges. He actually was instrumental in > > connecting me with some key people that made this happen. Yeh his guides > > are excellent, I own almost all of them. > > > > Hopefully it will not take me 21 years to get to Ithaca and my wife has > no > > suitors, only me! Nothing exciting to report other than Alice arrived > > yesterday and our first full day started slow as she was adjusting to > the 6 > > hour time difference. 12:00 noon found us at one of the many cafes > > overlooking the marina and about 8 miles of coast north. Alice drank her > 2 > > cups of coffee and had her pastry, and I enjoyed a cold beer. There were > > probably more cafes and restaurants along this stretch of coast than in > the > > whole of the Bahamas. We enjoy each venu, but it is kind of easy on the > > constitution to sit back and enjoy epicurean aspect of Spain. Got a deal > on > > a 6 kg (13 lbs) Rocna and had to do a few mods. to make it fit on the > > bow. Has anyone ever put a bow roller (offset) on their boat? Around > 1:00 > > pm had a nice lunch on the boat with air cured thinly slice ham on fresh > > baked bred and lots of fruit. Then go invited out for another lunch at > 3, > > so of course we went and had a very nice light Thai 2nd lunch, sounds > sort > > like a Hobbit's diet. Maybe tomorrow I'll work on the mast. Hmm, who > was > > it that turned Odysseus' men into pigs? Must have happened here in > Spain. > > > > Chris & Alice (now) > > Enosis I > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Richard Beytagh > > wrote: > > > > > I fear we may never hear from you again once you start your odyssey. > > > Cruising the Med is so compelling you may end up like Rod Heikell who > > > started sailing the Med in the 80's and is still at it, and who writes > > the > > > best pilot Guides to the Med. A worthwhile investment > > > > > > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > > > > > Richard Beytagh > > > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Geankoplis < > > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The boat is in and now I can deal with water based issues instead of > > land > > > > based ones (grin). Below is a link to a Google doc that has some > > > pictures. > > > > Hopefully the link will not be scrubbed. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vx2P6iVxc_s21FGHDm_u7- > > > tGcgYHoFCM/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > > S/V Enosis > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and > archives > > go > > > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From wpdavidge at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 17:16:32 2018 From: wpdavidge at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:16:32 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: 1992 rhodes 22 rebuilt 2007 References: Message-ID: <4471AF6E-48E4-4285-A39A-82DB5B6692B4@gmail.com> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Bill Davidge > Date: June 25, 2018 at 1:24:38 PM EDT > To: The Rhodes22EmailList > Cc: will davidge > Subject: 1992 rhodes 22 rebuilt 2007 > > Rhodes For Sale > > Asking 12,500 At this time she is at dock in Toledo Oh.She comes fully equep with all of the Rhodes Normal stuff plus 2006Triad Triller , Tohatsu 8 Hr.,Garmin gps 50Ft Shore Power Cord ,Pop Top Cover , 2-12v Batters and Batter Charger,Head,135 and 165 head sails 7;1 mortor lift and more > > > > Bill Davidge > 734 847 2522 > wpdavidge at gmail.com