From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 07:00:00 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:00:00 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 07-25,26,27,28 Rhodes in the Med
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Yes, I posted it a couple of days ago.  It was titled 08-09 thru 12, Rhodes
in the Med

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hunyc-0M_3JlVSUoVrTBgw76OyXdqPNd

   See if it actually posted.  Heck, I'll jjust post it again and also the
infamous 08-13 day.

Chris G

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:38 AM elle via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Chris, have you posted Cinque Terre yet? I loved visiting there & want to
> revisit...vicariously!
>
> elle
>
>     On Friday, August 31, 2018 3:38 PM, Chris <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Some day!  Not bringing Enosis home so............
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Chris & Alice,
> >
> > Glad that you liked Cinque Terre!  We loved it!  I wish that we could
> return
> > on a R22.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 12:44 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 07-25,26,27,28 Rhodes in the Med
> >
> > Hey Mike,
> >            Wanted to let you know your note helped me decide to meet my
> > sister in Cinque Terre and not in Rome as originally planned.  Thanks it
> > really was worth the back track!
> >
> > Chris G.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 7:39 PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> Le Grazie near La Spezia? Near Cinque Terre?  Beautiful harbor!  You
> > should
> >> stay and explore the coastline to Monterosso al Mare.  There is a train
> >> from
> >> La Spezia to Monterosso which stops at each of the five towns.  Great
> >> hiking
> >> and countryside.  Been there, no T-shirt.  Food is the best!  Enjoy!
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Wind Lass  ('91)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> >> Of
> >> Chris
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 1:10 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 07-25,26,27,28 Rhodes in the Med
> >>
> >> So glad you enjoy them. Arrived in small town of Grazie near la Spezia
> >> after
> >> a calm sea crossing of 75 miles.
> >> Chris G
> >> ENOSIS
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 31, 2018, at 8:28 PM, <scranevmd at verizon.net>
> >> <scranevmd at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to add my thanks for your postings.  They are wonderful
> > and
> >> I
> >>> am living vicariously reading them.  Keep safe and keep posting!
> >>>
> >>> Susan Crane
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Chris
> >>> Geankoplis
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:19 AM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 07-25,26,27,28 Rhodes in the Med
> >>>
> >>> So, here is the last installment for France.  Enjoy.  Oh, I'll try to
> > put
> >>> some more technical info in the next report.  I don't think I really
> > gave
> >> a
> >>> good picture of the sailing aspects and route planning the is half the
> >> fun.
> >>> Also I'll try to show how we get 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound boat.
> >>>
> >>> Chris G
> >>> Enosis
> >>>
> >>> Link:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ufic4XPGuM8hxBwUrwk-dLIjO9dH6TpY/view?usp=s
> >>> haring
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 07:03:20 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:03:20 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-09 thru 12, Rhodes in the Med re-post
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUGD-AYHdoHadPbvioz9wwibvUzsWJqMOy3o-gJthSsUg@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure if this went through but here is the link for days 08-09 thru 12.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hunyc-0M_3JlVSUoVrTBgw76OyXdqPNd/view?usp=sharing


Chris G

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 07:18:01 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:18:01 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>

So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
about it than do it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV

Chris & Alice
Enosis

From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Sat Sep  1 12:10:37 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:10:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c28700d0-cd96-ee2c-5016-c88637a9de43@atlanticbb.net>

Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your 
account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along 
that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he 
lived to file the report.

Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and 
your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.

Mary Lou

Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD


On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
> about it than do it.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 14:44:46 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:44:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <c28700d0-cd96-ee2c-5016-c88637a9de43@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, a good story.

Regards,

Rick


On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along
> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he
> lived to file the report.
>
> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and
> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
>
> Mary Lou
>
> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> > So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
> > about it than do it.
> >
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
> >
> > Chris & Alice
> > Enosis
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >
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> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 01:34:49 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 07:34:49 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36YKyHMvJCgXJcKasPqZZKpfpKMC10Fs1=urLtWDUWkUTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <E84B63A7-F033-45C6-94CD-34A73777DAAD@gmail.com>

Glad you enjoyed the accounts. No it is not like the Chesapeake but for the most part it wasn't a problem. From here to Sicily good harbors are a bit harder to come by. 
Chris & Alice 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, a good story.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
>> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along
>> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he
>> lived to file the report.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and
>> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 
>> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
>>> about it than do it.
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>>> 
>>> Chris & Alice
>>> Enosis
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>> 
>> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 01:40:04 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 07:40:04 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36YKyHMvJCgXJcKasPqZZKpfpKMC10Fs1=urLtWDUWkUTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <E78BEFB1-6F01-445D-BAF3-0F4B627AE91F@gmail.com>

Glad you find it interesting. Worst storms seem to bureaucratic in nature. 

Chris & Alice 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, a good story.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
>> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along
>> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he
>> lived to file the report.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and
>> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 
>> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
>>> about it than do it.
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>>> 
>>> Chris & Alice
>>> Enosis
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>> 
>> 
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From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 03:02:25 2018
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 00:02:25 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuNbiC9tP73=Z5xYiJ9Q4S6St6MC_9JCaVfiXvxnSaN=6A@mail.gmail.com>

Chris:

A heart stopper. You two are admirable sailors and reporters. Thanks for
the update. Take care.

Regards,
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 4:18 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
> about it than do it.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
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> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 06:30:27 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 12:30:27 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuNbiC9tP73=Z5xYiJ9Q4S6St6MC_9JCaVfiXvxnSaN=6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzGxuNbiC9tP73=Z5xYiJ9Q4S6St6MC_9JCaVfiXvxnSaN=6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1D17BD7D-3466-4374-8139-9A9E16B04FA1@gmail.com>

Heart stopper, I like that. Uh, you talking about the story or how we felt? (Grin).  It has been a truly wonderful experience and I really enjoy sharing it with Rhodies. 

Chris & Alice
Enosis

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chris:
> 
> A heart stopper. You two are admirable sailors and reporters. Thanks for
> the update. Take care.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
> 
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 4:18 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
>> about it than do it.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>> 
>> Chris & Alice
>> Enosis
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>> 
> __________________________________________________
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Sun Sep  2 09:43:06 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:43:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <E84B63A7-F033-45C6-94CD-34A73777DAAD@gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
 <c28700d0-cd96-ee2c-5016-c88637a9de43@atlanticbb.net>
 <CABkv36YKyHMvJCgXJcKasPqZZKpfpKMC10Fs1=urLtWDUWkUTw@mail.gmail.com>
 <E84B63A7-F033-45C6-94CD-34A73777DAAD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7f3e715-b4a4-804a-eeb5-1f13056c1d3e@atlanticbb.net>

Well enjoy the next part of the journey.

Did you break a stay or was it the turnbuckle or other fittings?

Wishing you easy repairs,? fair and safe sailing.

Mary Lou



On 9/2/2018 1:34 AM, Chris wrote:
> Glad you enjoyed the accounts. No it is not like the Chesapeake but for the most part it wasn't a problem. From here to Sicily good harbors are a bit harder to come by.
> Chris & Alice
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, a good story.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
>>> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along
>>> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he
>>> lived to file the report.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and
>>> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>>
>>> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to read
>>>> about it than do it.
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>>>>
>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>> Enosis
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From watermusic38 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  2 10:27:53 2018
From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 14:27:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuNbiC9tP73=Z5xYiJ9Q4S6St6MC_9JCaVfiXvxnSaN=6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1126226783.2445552.1535898473506@mail.yahoo.com>

Chris and Alice, what a story! Having faith in the tub you are sailing on gives you the confidence that you wouldn't be joining your dinghy....All in all, I am glad I read about it rather than lived it.
Fair winds from here & send us another installment soon.
elle 

    On Sunday, September 2, 2018 3:02 AM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Chris:

A heart stopper. You two are admirable sailors and reporters. Thanks for
the update. Take care.

Regards,
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 4:18 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So what follows is a pretty good read.? Might have been more fun to read
> about it than do it.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 09:44:15 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:44:15 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <d7f3e715-b4a4-804a-eeb5-1f13056c1d3e@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Mary Lou,
              Bolt securing the spreader worked loose so lost the leeward
spreader hence de-tensioned the entire port side.  Retensioned the stay
with the boat hook.

Chris G

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 3:43 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Well enjoy the next part of the journey.
>
> Did you break a stay or was it the turnbuckle or other fittings?
>
> Wishing you easy repairs,  fair and safe sailing.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
>
> On 9/2/2018 1:34 AM, Chris wrote:
> > Glad you enjoyed the accounts. No it is not like the Chesapeake but for
> the most part it wasn't a problem. From here to Sicily good harbors are a
> bit harder to come by.
> > Chris & Alice
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, a good story.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
> >>> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along
> >>> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he
> >>> lived to file the report.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and
> >>> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
> >>>
> >>> Mary Lou
> >>>
> >>> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> >>>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to
> read
> >>>> about it than do it.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris & Alice
> >>>> Enosis
> >>>> __________________________________________________
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From rca02536 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 09:54:16 2018
From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Bob Allen)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 09:54:16 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Removal
Message-ID: <79EBEDC3-0496-4A8A-925C-5AEA6414F85F@gmail.com>

Hi all,

     Developed a small rip in my IMF mainsail and need to remove (and eventually reinstall it). Stan says the r&r is intuitive, but we all know what is intuitive to Stan, can be a daunting task to the rest of us.  Any tips, hints, warnings, etc.  would be appreciated  Thanks


 Bob Allen S/V air force

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 12:01:36 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 12:01:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Removal
In-Reply-To: <79EBEDC3-0496-4A8A-925C-5AEA6414F85F@gmail.com>
References: <79EBEDC3-0496-4A8A-925C-5AEA6414F85F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRrL3LyK=K1x=058acqi_g49=yWAmUbhmnYfC696uwkKvA@mail.gmail.com>

Bob, I replaced my sail earlier this season. I was on land.It is a simple
operation. Mast must be in a horizontal position. On the black starboard
material on the mast that supports the sail, there is a spring loaded pin.
Pull out on the pin, this releases the support from the hole in the mast .
Just slide it toward the open end (bottom) of the mast. To make the task
easier clean and lubricate the groove in the mast from its starting
position to the open end.  On the IMF sail the clew is layers of heavy
cloth. I used this to just pull the sail out of the mast. There should be
very little resistance. Going back together is just as easy, take notes on
which way the mast is wound.

I discovered broken parts on my sail support system and had to order the
whole system from Stan. My boat is 32 years old, so it was an ouch but not
totally unexpected.

Cary Tolbert
Radford, VA

s/v Whisper



On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 9:54 AM Bob Allen <rca02536 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>      Developed a small rip in my IMF mainsail and need to remove (and
> eventually reinstall it). Stan says the r&r is intuitive, but we all know
> what is intuitive to Stan, can be a daunting task to the rest of us.  Any
> tips, hints, warnings, etc.  would be appreciated  Thanks
>
>
>  Bob Allen S/V air force
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon Sep  3 12:46:38 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 12:46:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWFWSL2k3d2RWsRiJC7pJhdtrA1i=NdhioCXHiZ6Z6uNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWi=6W8f-p+Jqa=d8f4bPdtZKA1XDL3MSw9K-OUUpw0ng@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CABkv36YKyHMvJCgXJcKasPqZZKpfpKMC10Fs1=urLtWDUWkUTw@mail.gmail.com>
 <E84B63A7-F033-45C6-94CD-34A73777DAAD@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4e7ded67-00bf-8e86-7baf-c4e1e25be632@atlanticbb.net>

Wow. Never heard of that happening though I do remember casually 
checking it once or twice when we had the mast down. If I still had my 
R22 that would be added to the checklist.

Mary Lou


On 9/3/2018 9:44 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>                Bolt securing the spreader worked loose so lost the leeward
> spreader hence de-tensioned the entire port side.  Retensioned the stay
> with the boat hook.
>
> Chris G
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 3:43 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
>> Well enjoy the next part of the journey.
>>
>> Did you break a stay or was it the turnbuckle or other fittings?
>>
>> Wishing you easy repairs,  fair and safe sailing.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/2/2018 1:34 AM, Chris wrote:
>>> Glad you enjoyed the accounts. No it is not like the Chesapeake but for
>> the most part it wasn't a problem. From here to Sicily good harbors are a
>> bit harder to come by.
>>> Chris & Alice
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, a good story.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
>>>>> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors along
>>>>> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well he
>>>>> lived to file the report.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other and
>>>>> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>>>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to
>> read
>>>>>> about it than do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon Sep  3 12:52:57 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 12:52:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Removal
In-Reply-To: <79EBEDC3-0496-4A8A-925C-5AEA6414F85F@gmail.com>
References: <79EBEDC3-0496-4A8A-925C-5AEA6414F85F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <151f5df6-0d27-7e99-5cdb-c7570ceb4605@atlanticbb.net>

Somewhere in the archives are photos from when we replaced the sail - in 
2010n, I believe. If your sail is old and worn, consider ordering a new 
one from Stan - it makes an amazing difference in how the boat sails. We 
put new sails on Fretless when we bought her from GB in 1998 and put a 
new main on her about 10-12 years later.

Mary Lou

ex R22, now Rosborough RF-246 Tara


On 9/3/2018 9:54 AM, Bob Allen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>       Developed a small rip in my IMF mainsail and need to remove (and eventually reinstall it). Stan says the r&r is intuitive, but we all know what is intuitive to Stan, can be a daunting task to the rest of us.  Any tips, hints, warnings, etc.  would be appreciated  Thanks
>
>
>   Bob Allen S/V air force
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Mon Sep  3 17:19:43 2018
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:19:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of 
reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants 
sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.? However, 
in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked 
for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.? All with a little 
selling on the side:

IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set 
perpendicular to the water line.? You will note a minute extruded groove 
in the mast's leading edge.? If you rest your head on the cabin top and 
sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform 
this groove from a curved to a straight line.

The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates 
mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med. 
misadventure.? In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up 
its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and 
bruising the boat.? Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make 
a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the 
straight mast, needed for IMF.

6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their 
turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.? With the mast straight and 
perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*. 
When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds 
automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along 
for the ride.? Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into 
the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the 
enclosed head.

Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.? For jib 
sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.? With 
the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by 
drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1 
mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures 
to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the 
transom.? "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.? Should you 
attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the 
mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will 
come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.

The Rhodes points amazingly well.? Here are the issues a 
boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:

The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.? Its sails of cloth, do 
not.? Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get 
new sails each year.? Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new 
set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few 
dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise 
loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or 
performance faults.? The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed 
by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is 
specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism 
and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only 
available from GB.? If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made 
for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease 
of operation or sailing performance of the collective original 
manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making 
any dollar savings trade-off call.

The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures 
allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its 
fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of 
an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help 
reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.? Using a 
175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail.? 
The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line 
is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the 
most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.

Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as 
part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3 
leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by 
allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats 
centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside 
(beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed 
outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the 
genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is 
limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the 
boat's center line.? With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short 
of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top 
shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer 
pointing.? But wait.? If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third 
lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.? The sheet routs inside 
the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair 
lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.? In all of these 
different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on 
the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.? This is your guide for 
having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to 
being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.

In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my 
friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far 
enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind 
force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To 
aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the 
sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big 
guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an 
enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the 
opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind. 
If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply 
partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor 
once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the 
calmer breeze.

A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and 
continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew 
hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does 
not vary (as it does in other systems).? This unique GB design insures 
that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains 
in the same plane as the boom. ? This improves pointing even more since 
it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to 
provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to 
remove as much twist in the leech as possible.? The GB new traveler 
system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's 
revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.? The IMF internal 
furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no 
maintenance and will last a life time.? If the sail or its mounting on 
the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns 
out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible 
by internal experts.? We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard 
that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that 
if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its 
interior.? They insisted the furling parts were OK.? No need to tell the 
rest of the story.? You can't have one without the other.

One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does 
not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet).? 
Furling the main isn't working?? Release the quick outhaul release that 
is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is 
this time beyond your strength?? Take your foot off the black outhaul 
line you left on the cockpit floor.? I know. I know.

Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top 
up.? But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing 
performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the 
sail's center of effort closer to the water line.

I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out 
there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was 
probably worth it.

stan







From rweiss at siu.edu  Mon Sep  3 17:36:18 2018
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Robert Louis Weiss)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:36:18 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Thanks Stan! I have made it a point to learn as much as I can about sailing this boat, but I always learn something new from you. Still love my 1998, recycled in 2014 beauty. Newbies in the marina still think it is a brand new boat.


Bob

Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 4:19:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed


I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of
reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants
sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.  However,
in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked
for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.  All with a little
selling on the side:

IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set
perpendicular to the water line.  You will note a minute extruded groove
in the mast's leading edge.  If you rest your head on the cabin top and
sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform
this groove from a curved to a straight line.

The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates
mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med.
misadventure.  In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up
its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and
bruising the boat.  Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make
a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the
straight mast, needed for IMF.

6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their
turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.  With the mast straight and
perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*.
When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds
automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along
for the ride.  Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into
the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the
enclosed head.

Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.  For jib
sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.  With
the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by
drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1
mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures
to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the
transom.  "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.  Should you
attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the
mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will
come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.

The Rhodes points amazingly well.  Here are the issues a
boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:

The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.  Its sails of cloth, do
not.  Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get
new sails each year.  Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new
set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few
dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise
loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or
performance faults.  The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed
by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is
specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism
and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only
available from GB.  If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made
for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease
of operation or sailing performance of the collective original
manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making
any dollar savings trade-off call.

The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures
allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its
fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of
an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help
reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.  Using a
175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail.
The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line
is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the
most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.

Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as
part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3
leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by
allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats
centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside
(beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed
outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the
genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is
limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the
boat's center line.  With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short
of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top
shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer
pointing.  But wait.  If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third
lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.  The sheet routs inside
the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair
lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.  In all of these
different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on
the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.  This is your guide for
having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to
being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.

In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my
friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far
enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind
force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To
aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the
sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big
guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an
enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the
opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind.
If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply
partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor
once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the
calmer breeze.

A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and
continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew
hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does
not vary (as it does in other systems).  This unique GB design insures
that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains
in the same plane as the boom.   This improves pointing even more since
it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to
provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to
remove as much twist in the leech as possible.  The GB new traveler
system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's
revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.  The IMF internal
furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no
maintenance and will last a life time.  If the sail or its mounting on
the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns
out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible
by internal experts.  We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard
that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that
if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its
interior.  They insisted the furling parts were OK.  No need to tell the
rest of the story.  You can't have one without the other.

One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does
not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet).
Furling the main isn't working?  Release the quick outhaul release that
is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is
this time beyond your strength?  Take your foot off the black outhaul
line you left on the cockpit floor.  I know. I know.

Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top
up.  But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing
performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the
sail's center of effort closer to the water line.

I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out
there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was
probably worth it.

stan






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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Sep  3 17:51:47 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:51:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Thanks for the reminders Stan.

I can personally attest to Stan?s point about the 9 stays allowing the mast to remain vertical even in the event of a jib stay failure.  In my case, conditions were fairly moderate, and I reefed the IMF main as quickly as I could manage, and motored back to the marina, so I didn?t push things too hard.  But obviously, if the mast had come down, and inconvenience would have turned into a catastrophe.

Here?s to a catastrophe avoided!

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
 


From Mark-Olson at verizon.net  Mon Sep  3 18:07:12 2018
From: Mark-Olson at verizon.net (Mark Olson)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 18:07:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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9 stays also allow for this:

I had a pin come out and one of forward stays while sailing in moderate 
winds last year.  My sailing companion went on a tack which took the stress 
off that side.  I grabbed another pin, put it in, retightened it and we 
sailed for a few more hours.

Mark Olson
Nyack New York
s/v Satchmo - 1983



-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Nyberg
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 5:51 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed

Thanks for the reminders Stan.

I can personally attest to Stan?s point about the 9 stays allowing the mast 
to remain vertical even in the event of a jib stay failure.  In my case, 
conditions were fairly moderate, and I reefed the IMF main as quickly as I 
could manage, and motored back to the marina, so I didn?t push things too 
hard.  But obviously, if the mast had come down, and inconvenience would 
have turned into a catastrophe.

Here?s to a catastrophe avoided!

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


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From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 19:38:51 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:38:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Stan, thanks for chiming in. My vote would be for you to be more involved
with The List.
Two years ago I replaced my 175 with a new 130 from GB. Amazingly I pointed
better. This year I replaced the IMF and have amazed other sailors with how
fast I was sailing. So...... new sails from GB do make a difference.
I have learned, on my own, not to wear shoes when sailing. This keeps me
from standing on the lines in the cockpit.

Cary Tolbert
Radford, VA
s/v Whisper   86

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 6:07 PM Mark Olson <Mark-Olson at verizon.net> wrote:

> 9 stays also allow for this:
>
> I had a pin come out and one of forward stays while sailing in moderate
> winds last year.  My sailing companion went on a tack which took the
> stress
> off that side.  I grabbed another pin, put it in, retightened it and we
> sailed for a few more hours.
>
> Mark Olson
> Nyack New York
> s/v Satchmo - 1983
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Nyberg
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 5:51 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
>
> Thanks for the reminders Stan.
>
> I can personally attest to Stan?s point about the 9 stays allowing the
> mast
> to remain vertical even in the event of a jib stay failure.  In my case,
> conditions were fairly moderate, and I reefed the IMF main as quickly as I
> could manage, and motored back to the marina, so I didn?t push things too
> hard.  But obviously, if the mast had come down, and inconvenience would
> have turned into a catastrophe.
>
> Here?s to a catastrophe avoided!
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 03:40:03 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:40:03 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-13, Rhodes in the Med
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Oh it was my fault.  I'll explain in my next posting.  Mea Culpa.

Ghris G
Enosis

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 6:46 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Wow. Never heard of that happening though I do remember casually
> checking it once or twice when we had the mast down. If I still had my
> R22 that would be added to the checklist.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> On 9/3/2018 9:44 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> > Mary Lou,
> >                Bolt securing the spreader worked loose so lost the
> leeward
> > spreader hence de-tensioned the entire port side.  Retensioned the stay
> > with the boat hook.
> >
> > Chris G
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 3:43 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Well enjoy the next part of the journey.
> >>
> >> Did you break a stay or was it the turnbuckle or other fittings?
> >>
> >> Wishing you easy repairs,  fair and safe sailing.
> >>
> >> Mary Lou
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/2/2018 1:34 AM, Chris wrote:
> >>> Glad you enjoyed the accounts. No it is not like the Chesapeake but for
> >> the most part it wasn't a problem. From here to Sicily good harbors are
> a
> >> bit harder to come by.
> >>> Chris & Alice
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Yes, a good story.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> Wow what a story! One of the things that has struck me about your
> >>>>> account is that there don't seem to be too many protected harbors
> along
> >>>>> that coast. Great narrative. I reminded myself a couple times, well
> he
> >>>>> lived to file the report.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks so much for these accounts. It's a journey unlike any other
> and
> >>>>> your photos and narrative have been just wonderful.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mary Lou
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ex R22, now Tara, a Rosborough RF-246, Rock Hall, MD
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/1/2018 7:18 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> >>>>>> So what follows is a pretty good read.  Might have been more fun to
> >> read
> >>>>>> about it than do it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ROqr_Ngf1lnozdSyBrENyhSqDJaRPUmV
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chris & Alice
> >>>>>> Enosis
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 03:43:45 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:43:45 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Well,
      Thank you Stan for the excellent description of the rig.  My "timely"
08-13 post really underlines the importance of how robust the rigging.
After the explanation I realize  it was the rig and not the various items
and bottles of liquor that I tossed over board during the crisis as an
offering to Neptune.  Thanks Stan!

Chris G

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:19 PM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of
> reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants
> sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.  However,
> in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked
> for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.  All with a little
> selling on the side:
>
> IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set
> perpendicular to the water line.  You will note a minute extruded groove
> in the mast's leading edge.  If you rest your head on the cabin top and
> sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform
> this groove from a curved to a straight line.
>
> The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates
> mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med.
> misadventure.  In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up
> its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and
> bruising the boat.  Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make
> a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the
> straight mast, needed for IMF.
>
> 6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their
> turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.  With the mast straight and
> perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*.
> When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds
> automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along
> for the ride.  Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into
> the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the
> enclosed head.
>
> Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.  For jib
> sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.  With
> the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by
> drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1
> mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures
> to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the
> transom.  "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.  Should you
> attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the
> mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will
> come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.
>
> The Rhodes points amazingly well.  Here are the issues a
> boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:
>
> The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.  Its sails of cloth, do
> not.  Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get
> new sails each year.  Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new
> set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few
> dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise
> loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or
> performance faults.  The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed
> by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is
> specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism
> and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only
> available from GB.  If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made
> for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease
> of operation or sailing performance of the collective original
> manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making
> any dollar savings trade-off call.
>
> The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures
> allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its
> fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of
> an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help
> reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.  Using a
> 175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail.
> The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line
> is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the
> most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.
>
> Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as
> part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3
> leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by
> allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats
> centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside
> (beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed
> outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the
> genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is
> limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the
> boat's center line.  With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short
> of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top
> shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer
> pointing.  But wait.  If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third
> lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.  The sheet routs inside
> the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair
> lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.  In all of these
> different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on
> the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.  This is your guide for
> having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to
> being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.
>
> In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my
> friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far
> enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind
> force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To
> aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the
> sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big
> guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an
> enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the
> opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind.
> If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply
> partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor
> once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the
> calmer breeze.
>
> A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and
> continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew
> hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does
> not vary (as it does in other systems).  This unique GB design insures
> that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains
> in the same plane as the boom.   This improves pointing even more since
> it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to
> provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to
> remove as much twist in the leech as possible.  The GB new traveler
> system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's
> revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.  The IMF internal
> furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no
> maintenance and will last a life time.  If the sail or its mounting on
> the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns
> out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible
> by internal experts.  We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard
> that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that
> if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its
> interior.  They insisted the furling parts were OK.  No need to tell the
> rest of the story.  You can't have one without the other.
>
> One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does
> not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet).
> Furling the main isn't working?  Release the quick outhaul release that
> is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is
> this time beyond your strength?  Take your foot off the black outhaul
> line you left on the cockpit floor.  I know. I know.
>
> Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top
> up.  But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing
> performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the
> sail's center of effort closer to the water line.
>
> I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out
> there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was
> probably worth it.
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>

From Marc at babineauins.com  Tue Sep  4 08:40:54 2018
From: Marc at babineauins.com (Mrbabs)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 05:40:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Thank you Stan

Printed, laminated and now part of the permanent collection on Baby Steps.


Marc B.
Westminster, MA



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Westminster MA
Sailing Narragansett Bay

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From watermusic38 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  4 08:57:31 2018
From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:57:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Stan,
You are one amazing man.

elle 

    On Monday, September 3, 2018 5:36 PM, Robert Louis Weiss <rweiss at siu.edu> wrote:
 

 Thanks Stan! I have made it a point to learn as much as I can about sailing this boat, but I always learn something new from you. Still love my 1998, recycled in 2014 beauty. Newbies in the marina still think it is a brand new boat.


Bob

Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 4:19:43 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed


I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of
reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants
sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.? However,
in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked
for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.? All with a little
selling on the side:

IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set
perpendicular to the water line.? You will note a minute extruded groove
in the mast's leading edge.? If you rest your head on the cabin top and
sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform
this groove from a curved to a straight line.

The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates
mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med.
misadventure.? In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up
its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and
bruising the boat.? Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make
a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the
straight mast, needed for IMF.

6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their
turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.? With the mast straight and
perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*.
When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds
automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along
for the ride.? Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into
the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the
enclosed head.

Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.? For jib
sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.? With
the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by
drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1
mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures
to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the
transom.? "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.? Should you
attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the
mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will
come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.

The Rhodes points amazingly well.? Here are the issues a
boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:

The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.? Its sails of cloth, do
not.? Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get
new sails each year.? Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new
set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few
dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise
loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or
performance faults.? The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed
by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is
specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism
and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only
available from GB.? If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made
for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease
of operation or sailing performance of the collective original
manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making
any dollar savings trade-off call.

The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures
allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its
fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of
an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help
reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.? Using a
175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail.
The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line
is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the
most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.

Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as
part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3
leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by
allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats
centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside
(beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed
outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the
genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is
limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the
boat's center line.? With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short
of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top
shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer
pointing.? But wait.? If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third
lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.? The sheet routs inside
the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair
lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.? In all of these
different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on
the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.? This is your guide for
having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to
being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.

In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my
friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far
enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind
force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To
aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the
sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big
guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an
enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the
opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind.
If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply
partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor
once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the
calmer breeze.

A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and
continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew
hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does
not vary (as it does in other systems).? This unique GB design insures
that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains
in the same plane as the boom.? This improves pointing even more since
it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to
provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to
remove as much twist in the leech as possible.? The GB new traveler
system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's
revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.? The IMF internal
furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no
maintenance and will last a life time.? If the sail or its mounting on
the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns
out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible
by internal experts.? We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard
that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that
if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its
interior.? They insisted the furling parts were OK.? No need to tell the
rest of the story.? You can't have one without the other.

One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does
not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet).
Furling the main isn't working?? Release the quick outhaul release that
is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is
this time beyond your strength?? Take your foot off the black outhaul
line you left on the cockpit floor.? I know. I know.

Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top
up.? But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing
performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the
sail's center of effort closer to the water line.

I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out
there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was
probably worth it.

stan






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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Tue Sep  4 09:10:31 2018
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:10:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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Stan,

Thanks for sharing your comments.  They are always appreciated.

Some of us actually remember why there are two cleats on the transom.  On my original Rhodes 22, delivered by you in March 1981, one cleat was for the backstay adjuster and the second adjusted the "traveler" which was nothing more than cotton line and a block attached to the main, between the two backstays.  Somehow, we were able to sail the rig, although not nearly as well as my '91 with the much improved traveler.

Now you know the rest of the story, as Paul Harvey used to say.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 5:20 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed


I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.  However, in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.  All with a little selling on the side:

IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set perpendicular to the water line.  You will note a minute extruded groove in the mast's leading edge.  If you rest your head on the cabin top and sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform this groove from a curved to a straight line.

The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med. 
misadventure.  In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and bruising the boat.  Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the straight mast, needed for IMF.

6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.  With the mast straight and perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*. 
When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along for the ride.  Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the enclosed head.

Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.  For jib sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.  With the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1 mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the transom.  "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.  Should you attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.

The Rhodes points amazingly well.  Here are the issues a boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:

The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.  Its sails of cloth, do not.  Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get new sails each year.  Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or performance faults.  The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only available from GB.  If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease of operation or sailing performance of the collective original manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making any dollar savings trade-off call.

The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.  Using a
175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail. The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.

Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3 leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside
(beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the boat's center line.  With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer pointing.  But wait.  If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.  The sheet routs inside the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.  In all of these different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.  This is your guide for having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.

In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind. 
If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the calmer breeze.

A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does not vary (as it does in other systems).  This unique GB design insures that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains in the same plane as the boom.   This improves pointing even more since it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to remove as much twist in the leech as possible.  The GB new traveler system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.  The IMF internal furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no maintenance and will last a life time.  If the sail or its mounting on the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible by internal experts.  We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its interior.  They insisted the furling parts were OK.  No need to tell the rest of the story.  You can't have one without the other.

One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet). Furling the main isn't working?  Release the quick outhaul release that is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is this time beyond your strength?  Take your foot off the black outhaul line you left on the cockpit floor.  I know. I know.

Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top up.  But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the sail's center of effort closer to the water line.

I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was probably worth it.

stan






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From: wkhalligan at gmail.com (Kevin Halligan)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:28:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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I agree Elle. I have always enjoyed each and every conversation I have had
with Stan. I visited the plant and bought a trailer from him in Sept. 2017
in order to make my boat more marketable. I decided to sell because the
boat wasn't getting the use it deserved. Anyway, we talked about a number
subjects unrelated to the Rhodes 22. I left wishing I could spend more time
with him. I will always remember my introduction to Stan when first asking
him the price range of recycled Rhodes and he said $10,000 to infinity.
Classic Stan. He and his brother Elton (Eldon?) were a joy to be around.
Whenever I get in to a discussion with anyone about the Rhodes 22 I
invariably find myself talking more about my experiences with Stan.

Kevin

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 8:57 AM elle via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Stan,
> You are one amazing man.
>
> elle
>
>     On Monday, September 3, 2018 5:36 PM, Robert Louis Weiss <
> rweiss at siu.edu> wrote:
>
>
>  Thanks Stan! I have made it a point to learn as much as I can about
> sailing this boat, but I always learn something new from you. Still love my
> 1998, recycled in 2014 beauty. Newbies in the marina still think it is a
> brand new boat.
>
>
> Bob
>
> Beach Spring
>
>
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 4:19:43 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
>
>
> I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of
> reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants
> sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.  However,
> in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked
> for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.  All with a little
> selling on the side:
>
> IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set
> perpendicular to the water line.  You will note a minute extruded groove
> in the mast's leading edge.  If you rest your head on the cabin top and
> sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform
> this groove from a curved to a straight line.
>
> The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates
> mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med.
> misadventure.  In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up
> its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and
> bruising the boat.  Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make
> a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the
> straight mast, needed for IMF.
>
> 6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their
> turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.  With the mast straight and
> perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*.
> When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds
> automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along
> for the ride.  Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into
> the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the
> enclosed head.
>
> Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.  For jib
> sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.  With
> the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by
> drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1
> mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures
> to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the
> transom.  "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.  Should you
> attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the
> mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will
> come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.
>
> The Rhodes points amazingly well.  Here are the issues a
> boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:
>
> The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.  Its sails of cloth, do
> not.  Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get
> new sails each year.  Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new
> set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few
> dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise
> loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or
> performance faults.  The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed
> by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is
> specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism
> and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only
> available from GB.  If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made
> for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease
> of operation or sailing performance of the collective original
> manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making
> any dollar savings trade-off call.
>
> The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures
> allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its
> fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of
> an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help
> reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.  Using a
> 175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail.
> The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line
> is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the
> most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.
>
> Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as
> part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3
> leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by
> allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats
> centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside
> (beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed
> outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the
> genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is
> limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the
> boat's center line.  With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short
> of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top
> shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer
> pointing.  But wait.  If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third
> lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.  The sheet routs inside
> the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair
> lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.  In all of these
> different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on
> the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.  This is your guide for
> having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to
> being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.
>
> In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my
> friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far
> enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind
> force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To
> aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the
> sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big
> guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an
> enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the
> opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind.
> If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply
> partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor
> once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the
> calmer breeze.
>
> A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and
> continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew
> hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does
> not vary (as it does in other systems).  This unique GB design insures
> that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains
> in the same plane as the boom.  This improves pointing even more since
> it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to
> provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to
> remove as much twist in the leech as possible.  The GB new traveler
> system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's
> revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.  The IMF internal
> furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no
> maintenance and will last a life time.  If the sail or its mounting on
> the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns
> out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible
> by internal experts.  We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard
> that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that
> if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its
> interior.  They insisted the furling parts were OK.  No need to tell the
> rest of the story.  You can't have one without the other.
>
> One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does
> not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet).
> Furling the main isn't working?  Release the quick outhaul release that
> is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is
> this time beyond your strength?  Take your foot off the black outhaul
> line you left on the cockpit floor.  I know. I know.
>
> Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top
> up.  But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing
> performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the
> sail's center of effort closer to the water line.
>
> I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out
> there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was
> probably worth it.
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
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>
>
>
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 11:53:07 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:53:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] highest comfortable wind speed
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I finally know what the lazarette is for.

Rick


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:19 PM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> I generally try to stay away from List/Boat discussions for a host of
> reasons; including the fact that I am an undergraduate seat of the pants
> sailor so most Rhodies are more technically positioned than I.  However,
> in honor of Alex and as a dose of home therapy, I'll offer a few unasked
> for comments re Rhodes sails and related hardware.  All with a little
> selling on the side:
>
> IMF masts (only available from GB) want to be straight and set
> perpendicular to the water line.  You will note a minute extruded groove
> in the mast's leading edge.  If you rest your head on the cabin top and
> sight up this 26' long groove, you can adjust your stays to transform
> this groove from a curved to a straight line.
>
> The Rhodes has 9 stays, a record for this category boat. This eliminates
> mast pumping. Adds a degree of reserve safety as in Chris's Med.
> misadventure.  In most boats our size, if a jib stay (forestay) gives up
> its job, there is nothing to stop the mast from falling back and
> bruising the boat.  Of course, if you are fortunate, the mast will make
> a soft landing on your guests. The Rhodes 9 stays also allow for the
> straight mast, needed for IMF.
>
> 6 side stays (shrouds) need only a one time adjusting of their
> turnbuckles, which should be done by *Hand*.  With the mast straight and
> perpendicular, all 6 shrouds are tightened (worth repeating) by *Hand*.
> When wind hits the sails and heels the mast, the 3 appropriate shrouds
> automatically tighten the precise amount needed to take the hull along
> for the ride.  Over tightening these 6 shrouds drives the mast down into
> the boat, distorting hull shape, possibly even trapping a guest in the
> enclosed head.
>
> Adjusting the jib stay and double back stays, is another story.  For jib
> sail efficiency you need the jib stay to be as straight as can be.  With
> the Rhodes mast head rig design, this is quickly and easily doable by
> drawing the two back stays together with its rapid tension adjuster 2:1
> mechanical advantage built-in set up where its pulling line then secures
> to one of the 2 idiot proof tiny cleats on each outer corner of the
> transom.  "Idiot proof" because only one cleat is used.  Should you
> attach the back stays in reverse at the mast top, no need to lower the
> mast; the opposite transom cleat is ready for use. You undoubtedly will
> come up with a creative use for the unused cleat.
>
> The Rhodes points amazingly well.  Here are the issues a
> boat-blaming-skipper needs to be tuned into:
>
> The Rhodes proper, lasts beyond a life time.  Its sails of cloth, do
> not.  Sail shapes, and thus efficiencies, change. Racing extremists get
> new sails each year.  Relaxed Rhodies can let the next owner make a new
> set decision. The point I want to make clear here is that saving a few
> dollars to have sails made by a local sailmaker or a Doyle franchise
> loft is fine, as long as you don't then turn to GB with furling or
> performance faults.  The shape of the Rhodes IMF main has been designed
> by GB and is manufactured to GB's specs. Rhodes IMF mainsail is
> specifically designed to work with the IMF's internal furling mechanism
> and it being hard connected to the Rhodes boom outhaul car; all only
> available from GB.  If you bought a used Rhodes or had new sails made
> for your Rhodes by a noted loft, you will not be getting the same ease
> of operation or sailing performance of the collective original
> manufacturer's IMF system... Just something to be aware of before making
> any dollar savings trade-off call.
>
> The jib sail should be connected to its furler so that its end pressures
> allow a smooth leading sail edge while not causing a crease in its
> fabric slightly aft of its luff. Rhodes furling jibs have some sort of
> an additional filler strategically positioned along the luff to help
> reduce excessive sail draft when being used partially reefed.  Using a
> 175 reefed to 130 vs a 130 fully deployed, the 130 is the better sail.
> The downside being it can't get bigger for lighter airs. The bottom line
> is probably for non racers to go with the sail size that would get the
> most use based on the more prevalent wind velocities they sail in.
>
> Your Rhodes should have 3 separate jib sheet leads hardware systems as
> part of your boat and readily available for either tack. This unique 3
> leads availability is what contributes to greater pointing ability by
> allowing the jib sail to be trimmed progressively closer to the boats
> centerline. When employing a genoa size that has to pass outside
> (beyond) the end of the mast spreaders, the sheets can only be routed
> outside of all 3 shrouds and used with the gunnel genoa cars on the
> genoa tracks. While delivering maximum driving force, pointing is
> limited by the limited degree the jib can then be trimmed towards the
> boat's center line.  With the jib reefed so its leech falls just short
> of reaching a spreader, the in play sheet routs inside of the mast-top
> shroud to a cabin-side fair lead and cam cleat, for markedly closer
> pointing.  But wait.  If you act right now the Rhodes offers a third
> lead positioning for amazing pointing ability.  The sheet routs inside
> the upper shroud *and* inside the aft lower shroud to the large fair
> lead and cam cleat on the aft cabin trunk top.  In all of these
> different lead positions you should take note of a diagonal stripe on
> the sail itself, that runs to the sail's clew.  This is your guide for
> having the angle of the jib sheet being set as close as possible to
> being a continuation of this sail marker's angle.
>
> In response to the coming about jib thinking, mine is, the wind is my
> friend. I do not release the jib sheet until the boat has come about far
> enough for the wind to have stated backwinding the genoa so that wind
> force is now great enough to propel all that material past the mast. To
> aid my friend I slacken the released jib sheet so at no point will the
> sheet itself be working against our common goal of aiding in the big
> guy's struggle to make it to the other side. Of course if an
> enthusiastic helping deck hand prematurely starts pulling on the
> opposite sheet, there is the lazaret brig. This is a job for the wind.
> If the wind is not up to it, then the calmer situation allows for simply
> partially furling the jib and unfurling it back to its full splendor
> once on the new heading, where you will appreciate its huge size in the
> calmer breeze.
>
> A General Boats IMF mainsail's clew is designed to remain close to, and
> continually parallel to, the boom. This is critical in making the clew
> hard-attached to the outhaul car so that space between sail and car does
> not vary (as it does in other systems).  This unique GB design insures
> that no matter the draft size you set in the main sail, the sail remains
> in the same plane as the boom.   This improves pointing even more since
> it gives more meaning to the basic value of a traveler, which is to
> provide as straight as possible downward force on the sail's leech to
> remove as much twist in the leech as possible.  The GB new traveler
> system works with the latest GB outhaul car design to advance the IMF's
> revolutionary closing in on sailing perfection.  The IMF internal
> furling mechanics are so simple and bullet proof, it requires no
> maintenance and will last a life time.  If the sail or its mounting on
> the IMF furler is not an issue, an errant IMF system invariably turns
> out to be the result of external expert intervention, luckily reversible
> by internal experts.  We had a call for a mast replacement from a yard
> that had inadvertently bent a customer's mast. I explained to them that
> if they bent the mast to that degree, they needed to replace its
> interior.  They insisted the furling parts were OK.  No need to tell the
> rest of the story.  You can't have one without the other.
>
> One of our slogans has been, and remains, if something on a Rhodes does
> not work easily, best to look first at all crew hands (or feet).
> Furling the main isn't working?  Release the quick outhaul release that
> is so easy to release it is forgettable. I know. Taking out the main is
> this time beyond your strength?  Take your foot off the black outhaul
> line you left on the cockpit floor.  I know. I know.
>
> Of course everyone knows how delightful it is sailing with the pop top
> up.  But sailing with it down does increase /all aspects of sailing
> performance/ by allowing the lower level of the boom to position the
> sail's center of effort closer to the water line.
>
> I know you all know all of this stuff, but if there is one sailor out
> there who finds one thing new to her or him, all this verbiage was
> probably worth it.
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 12:51:44 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:51:44 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-14 thru 18, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXnVANrX1YDLuAxZW8vdW87w=ObpXtPEvELqF4BTKqytw@mail.gmail.com>

Here are a couple of days we spent recovering on the island of Elba.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASXfVpt70jX8gCU-NBa5weusnc8FKG0F/view?usp=sharing


Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS I

From watermusic38 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  4 21:15:27 2018
From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 01:15:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-14 thru 18, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXnVANrX1YDLuAxZW8vdW87w=ObpXtPEvELqF4BTKqytw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXnVANrX1YDLuAxZW8vdW87w=ObpXtPEvELqF4BTKqytw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <392744622.1416442.1536110127047@mail.yahoo.com>

Lovin' it! Thanks, Chris.
 

    On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 12:51 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Here are a couple of days we spent recovering on the island of Elba.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASXfVpt70jX8gCU-NBa5weusnc8FKG0F/view?usp=sharing


Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS I
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From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 12:58:21 2018
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
Message-ID: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes? (For a
130)
Issues with installation?
Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
Any issues with durability or upkeep?

Thanks for any input

DT

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 13:14:50 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:14:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>

David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan at
General Boats.
Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made. With
other makes of 130 sails I have no
experience.
Cary Tolbert
Radford, VA
s/v Whisper  '86

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes? (For a
> 130)
> Issues with installation?
> Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> Any issues with durability or upkeep?
>
> Thanks for any input
>
> DT
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From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 14:26:01 2018
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:26:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>

Was that with the CDI Furler?

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan at
> General Boats.
> Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made. With
> other makes of 130 sails I have no
> experience.
> Cary Tolbert
> Radford, VA
> s/v Whisper  '86
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
> (For a
> > 130)
> > Issues with installation?
> > Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> > Any issues with durability or upkeep?
> >
> > Thanks for any input
> >
> > DT
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
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>

From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Wed Sep  5 14:35:42 2018
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:35:42 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>

Is it a Doyle sail?


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

[cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
Please consider the environment before printing this email.


On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Was that with the CDI Furler?

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:

David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan at
General Boats.
Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made. With
other makes of 130 sails I have no
experience.
Cary Tolbert
Radford, VA
s/v Whisper  '86

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
wrote:

Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
(For a
130)
Issues with installation?
Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
Any issues with durability or upkeep?

Thanks for any input

DT
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From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 14:49:23 2018
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:49:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
Message-ID: <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
wrote:

> Is it a Doyle sail?
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:
> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Was that with the CDI Furler?
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
> <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan at
> General Boats.
> Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made. With
> other makes of 130 sails I have no
> experience.
> Cary Tolbert
> Radford, VA
> s/v Whisper  '86
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
> (For a
> 130)
> Issues with installation?
> Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> Any issues with durability or upkeep?
>
> Thanks for any input
>
> DT
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> __________________________________________________
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>

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 15:33:20 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:33:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle
label.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Is it a Doyle sail?
> >
> >
> > Please note our new office address and phone number
> >
> > Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >
> > 700 N Fairfax Street
> > <
> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
> >
> > <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> > mobile
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> >
> > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >
> >
> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:
> > talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Was that with the CDI Furler?
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
> > <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan
> at
> > General Boats.
> > Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
> With
> > other makes of 130 sails I have no
> > experience.
> > Cary Tolbert
> > Radford, VA
> > s/v Whisper  '86
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
> > (For a
> > 130)
> > Issues with installation?
> > Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> > Any issues with durability or upkeep?
> >
> > Thanks for any input
> >
> > DT
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
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> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
> __________________________________________________
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>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
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> __________________________________________________
>

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 15:37:21 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:37:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRow2YbtJx0Ve=+AGrTUErVK4iSd0yPchksiBhTuWG1Fhg@mail.gmail.com>

David, another thought. Doyle is a franchise business.Depending the
location and the pattern used,
all Doyles may not be exactly the same.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:33 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle
> label.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Is it a Doyle sail?
>> >
>> >
>> > Please note our new office address and phone number
>> >
>> > Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>> >  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>> >
>> > 700 N Fairfax Street
>> > <
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
>> >
>> > <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>> > Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>> > Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>> > 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
>> > mobile
>> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>> >
>> > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
>> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:
>> > talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Was that with the CDI Furler?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan
>> at
>> > General Boats.
>> > Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
>> With
>> > other makes of 130 sails I have no
>> > experience.
>> > Cary Tolbert
>> > Radford, VA
>> > s/v Whisper  '86
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
>> > (For a
>> > 130)
>> > Issues with installation?
>> > Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
>> > Any issues with durability or upkeep?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any input
>> >
>> > DT
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> >
>> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go
>> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> > __________________________________________________
>> >
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> >
>> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go
>> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> > __________________________________________________
>> >
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> >
>> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go
>> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>> >
>> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>> go
>> > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> > __________________________________________________
>> >
>> __________________________________________________
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>>
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>>
>

From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed Sep  5 15:38:40 2018
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:38:40 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR05MB3927A5F0E2E69B354D375AB0C1020@BYAPR05MB3927.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

David,
My boat has a CDI furler and a Doyle sail.  No problems what so ever.  Does the manual help? - rob

http://www.rhodes22.org/doclib/CDI-FlexibleFurlerModel2-Manual.pdf


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 3:33 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler

Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle label.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie 
> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Is it a Doyle sail?
> >
> >
> > Please note our new office address and phone number
> >
> > Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >
> > 700 N Fairfax Street
> > <
> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0A
> Alexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
> >
> > <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> Alexandria, Virginia 
> > 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 
> > 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile 
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> >
> > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >
> >
> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:
> > talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Was that with the CDI Furler?
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com 
> > <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from 
> > Stan
> at
> > General Boats.
> > Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
> With
> > other makes of 130 sails I have no
> > experience.
> > Cary Tolbert
> > Radford, VA
> > s/v Whisper  '86
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot 
> > <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
> > (For a
> > 130)
> > Issues with installation?
> > Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> > Any issues with durability or upkeep?
> >
> > Thanks for any input
> >
> > DT
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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> > __________________________________________________
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Wed Sep  5 15:40:01 2018
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:40:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRow2YbtJx0Ve=+AGrTUErVK4iSd0yPchksiBhTuWG1Fhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRow2YbtJx0Ve=+AGrTUErVK4iSd0yPchksiBhTuWG1Fhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <179C5CA8-B9A7-414C-AAF7-B6FC6B9E76D1@stottarchitecture.com>

Your local Doyle sail loft  will sew a Luff line on an older sail to fit the CDI fuller and or order a new one with the right size Luff tape. 
Ric 
Dadventure
Hampotn Bays 
 
Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 





> On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> David, another thought. Doyle is a franchise business.Depending the
> location and the pattern used,
> all Doyles may not be exactly the same.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:33 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle
>> label.
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is it a Doyle sail?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>>>> [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>>>> 
>>>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>>>> <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>> 
>>>> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>>>> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>>>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>>>> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
>>>> mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>>>> 
>>>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:
>>>> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Was that with the CDI Furler?
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan
>>> at
>>>> General Boats.
>>>> Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
>>> With
>>>> other makes of 130 sails I have no
>>>> experience.
>>>> Cary Tolbert
>>>> Radford, VA
>>>> s/v Whisper  '86
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
>>>> (For a
>>>> 130)
>>>> Issues with installation?
>>>> Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
>>>> Any issues with durability or upkeep?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>> 
>>>> DT
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
>>> go
>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>>> 
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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Wed Sep  5 15:44:28 2018
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:44:28 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <179C5CA8-B9A7-414C-AAF7-B6FC6B9E76D1@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRow2YbtJx0Ve=+AGrTUErVK4iSd0yPchksiBhTuWG1Fhg@mail.gmail.com>,
 <179C5CA8-B9A7-414C-AAF7-B6FC6B9E76D1@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <B8806F42-0957-4B2F-BD06-6208D93CCBB9@cowieassociates.com>

Doyle makes the 130 With a specific fit for the cdi furler


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

[cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
Please consider the environment before printing this email.


On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com<mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com>> wrote:

Your local Doyle sail loft  will sew a Luff line on an older sail to fit the CDI fuller and or order a new one with the right size Luff tape.
Ric
Dadventure
Hampotn Bays

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
www.stottarchitecture.com<http://www.stottarchitecture.com>
Office    631-283-1777
Cell        516-965-3164





On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:

David, another thought. Doyle is a franchise business.Depending the
location and the pattern used,
all Doyles may not be exactly the same.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:33 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle
label.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
wrote:

Yes

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
wrote:

Is it a Doyle sail?


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
[cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street
<
https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g

<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com><mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

[cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
Please consider the environment before printing this email.


On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
<mailto:
talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>> wrote:

Was that with the CDI Furler?

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>
<mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:

David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan
at
General Boats.
Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
With
other makes of 130 sails I have no
experience.
Cary Tolbert
Radford, VA
s/v Whisper  '86

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
wrote:

Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
(For a
130)
Issues with installation?
Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
Any issues with durability or upkeep?

Thanks for any input

DT
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From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 21:48:37 2018
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:48:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <B8806F42-0957-4B2F-BD06-6208D93CCBB9@cowieassociates.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp4pTyxRb6BQM8Bxpd+3-qkDze8RfALgQv5WMuLOCJ4Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJK53dLdd0gbAePn8jBNXMi_7TqntRg9VHuFKFQzg3en9bymrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC8291C2-5904-42A4-9FE5-99E4D1C2575E@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAJK53dLfN=j_8jyoHy_OaR6bPQortNKREvfJmciH7+VLSkpqhQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRp+CNpYGDWvaE4hZasohF9EvyGOP1Hb+F08Lt1rwtyt2Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRow2YbtJx0Ve=+AGrTUErVK4iSd0yPchksiBhTuWG1Fhg@mail.gmail.com>
 <179C5CA8-B9A7-414C-AAF7-B6FC6B9E76D1@stottarchitecture.com>
 <B8806F42-0957-4B2F-BD06-6208D93CCBB9@cowieassociates.com>
Message-ID: <CAJK53dKyYj8E=C+o3SXKb3LXQRi7mksOBHvrxySW6zFLcyvjPw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for the valuable feedback, I appreciate
My furler is an original, clearly durable, but pretty beaten up from what
I?m guessing is prior attempts to reassemble with hammer rather than
patience

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
wrote:

> Doyle makes the 130 With a specific fit for the cdi furler
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
> <mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com>> wrote:
>
> Your local Doyle sail loft  will sew a Luff line on an older sail to fit
> the CDI fuller and or order a new one with the right size Luff tape.
> Ric
> Dadventure
> Hampotn Bays
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com<http://www.stottarchitecture.com>
> Office    631-283-1777
> Cell        516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:
> retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> David, another thought. Doyle is a franchise business.Depending the
> location and the pattern used,
> all Doyles may not be exactly the same.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:33 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:
> retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle
> label.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Yes
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> <mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Is it a Doyle sail?
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <
>
> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com><mailto:
> ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:
> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:
> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Was that with the CDI Furler?
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
> <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan
> at
> General Boats.
> Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
> With
> other makes of 130 sails I have no
> experience.
> Cary Tolbert
> Radford, VA
> s/v Whisper  '86
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
> (For a
> 130)
> Issues with installation?
> Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> Any issues with durability or upkeep?
>
> Thanks for any input
>
> DT
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
> __________________________________________________
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Thu Sep  6 00:51:17 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 00:51:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler
In-Reply-To: <CAJK53dKyYj8E=C+o3SXKb3LXQRi7mksOBHvrxySW6zFLcyvjPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53dJR463knB7yFj+v15Vd763O+StL7ZvwQrBWdMMpoX5syA@mail.gmail.com>
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I had a very old CDI furler on my boat that literally fell apart when I was reinstalling it after my rebuild of Agile. I replaced the furler with the Schaefer Snapfurl. The jib is a 170 of unknown origin. The shape of the sail was no problem but the luff tape was too thick and had to be replaced. That was not a huge expense and was done at our local sail shop.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Talbot
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:49 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headsail furler

Thanks all for the valuable feedback, I appreciate
My furler is an original, clearly durable, but pretty beaten up from what
I?m guessing is prior attempts to reassemble with hammer rather than
patience

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
wrote:

> Doyle makes the 130 With a specific fit for the cdi furler
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
> <mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com>> wrote:
>
> Your local Doyle sail loft  will sew a Luff line on an older sail to fit
> the CDI fuller and or order a new one with the right size Luff tape.
> Ric
> Dadventure
> Hampotn Bays
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com<http://www.stottarchitecture.com>
> Office    631-283-1777
> Cell        516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:
> retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> David, another thought. Doyle is a franchise business.Depending the
> location and the pattern used,
> all Doyles may not be exactly the same.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:33 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com<mailto:
> retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, David my Furler is the CDI and the sail Stan provided had the Doyle
> label.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Yes
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> <mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Is it a Doyle sail?
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <
>
> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com><mailto:
> ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:26 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:
> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:
> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com<mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Was that with the CDI Furler?
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
> <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> <mailto:retiredtoby at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> David, I replaced my 175 jib with a new 130 jib that I bought from Stan
> at
> General Boats.
> Stan's sail was an easy swap out. There were zero changes to be made.
> With
> other makes of 130 sails I have no
> experience.
> Cary Tolbert
> Radford, VA
> s/v Whisper  '86
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:58 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Anyone out there have experience with a CDI F2 furler on the Rhodes?
> (For a
> 130)
> Issues with installation?
> Do the Rhodes sails need to be adapted to fit onto this CDI furler?
> Any issues with durability or upkeep?
>
> Thanks for any input
>
> DT
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From sundsvalla at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  8 00:09:23 2018
From: sundsvalla at earthlink.net (Tex Hill)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 23:09:23 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
Message-ID: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>

Has anyone had rain leaks along the rub rail and if so how did you fix it?
Tex Hill...."Just You and Me"

In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat Sep  8 11:51:13 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 11:51:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0edc01d4478b$c51486b0$4f3d9410$@ca>

I don't know how the rub rail could leak from rain. Where does the water
appear inside the boat?

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Tex Hill
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 12:09 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint

Has anyone had rain leaks along the rub rail and if so how did you fix it?
Tex Hill...."Just You and Me"

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From sundsvalla at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  8 21:20:21 2018
From: sundsvalla at earthlink.net (Tex Hill)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 20:20:21 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <0edc01d4478b$c51486b0$4f3d9410$@ca>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
 <0edc01d4478b$c51486b0$4f3d9410$@ca>
Message-ID: <360EC66F-30AF-41ED-B153-C0AFEC7FEDF4@earthlink.net>

Stains running down the hull, inside from the hull/deck joint.
Guess I need to take my wife's advice and sit in the boat during the next rain.
Tex

In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 10:51, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> I don't know how the rub rail could leak from rain. Where does the water
> appear inside the boat?
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Tex Hill
> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 12:09 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
> 
> Has anyone had rain leaks along the rub rail and if so how did you fix it?
> Tex Hill...."Just You and Me"
> 
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From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 23:05:50 2018
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 23:05:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <22294666-9F42-4DC3-AB04-FCC478B114AA@gmail.com>

The factory used silicone on the shoebox hull to deck joint.  It only lasts about 5 years,. Maybe less in salt water.  Not a great choice but was cheap and good for refurbishing.  Dig out the old silicone and add new.  
I on the other hand used sikaflex polyurethane flexible adhesive for below water applications.  I applied it inside and out with great results.

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:09 AM, Tex Hill <sundsvalla at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had rain leaks along the rub rail and if so how did you fix it?
> Tex Hill...."Just You and Me"
> 
> In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Sep  9 08:59:02 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 08:59:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <360EC66F-30AF-41ED-B153-C0AFEC7FEDF4@earthlink.net>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
 <0edc01d4478b$c51486b0$4f3d9410$@ca>
 <360EC66F-30AF-41ED-B153-C0AFEC7FEDF4@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0ef301d4483c$e2416080$a6c42180$@ca>

Tex:
A poor seal along the deck hull joint will leak when submerged on a heel but
I can't see how rain could get in that way. Are you sure it is rain that is
entering? You might check the chain plates where they go through the deck.
They can easily leak as they move back and forth. Water once inside can drop
down far from the point where the chain plates are located.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Tex Hill
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:20 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint

Stains running down the hull, inside from the hull/deck joint.
Guess I need to take my wife's advice and sit in the boat during the next
rain.
Tex

In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 10:51, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> I don't know how the rub rail could leak from rain. Where does the water
> appear inside the boat?
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
Of
> Tex Hill
> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 12:09 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
> 
> Has anyone had rain leaks along the rub rail and if so how did you fix it?
> Tex Hill...."Just You and Me"
> 
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun Sep  9 10:49:14 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:49:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <22294666-9F42-4DC3-AB04-FCC478B114AA@gmail.com>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
 <22294666-9F42-4DC3-AB04-FCC478B114AA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <33C7F046-4B83-436D-9E5A-F5F81CE75D18@sunnybeeches.com>

That implies that you removed the rub rail.  Can you tell us how that?s done?

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The factory used silicone on the shoebox hull to deck joint.  It only lasts about 5 years,. Maybe less in salt water.  Not a great choice but was cheap and good for refurbishing.  Dig out the old silicone and add new.  
> I on the other hand used sikaflex polyurethane flexible adhesive for below water applications.  I applied it inside and out with great results.
> 


From stan at rhodes22.com  Sun Sep  9 10:55:28 2018
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:55:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <33C7F046-4B83-436D-9E5A-F5F81CE75D18@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
 <22294666-9F42-4DC3-AB04-FCC478B114AA@gmail.com>
 <33C7F046-4B83-436D-9E5A-F5F81CE75D18@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <161cd0b2-3243-6f5b-da56-00398b10c2de@rhodes22.com>

Always provide the year of boat in such discussions.

ss

On 9/9/18 10:49 AM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> That implies that you removed the rub rail.  Can you tell us how that?s done?
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The factory used silicone on the shoebox hull to deck joint.  It only lasts about 5 years,. Maybe less in salt water.  Not a great choice but was cheap and good for refurbishing.  Dig out the old silicone and add new.
>> I on the other hand used sikaflex polyurethane flexible adhesive for below water applications.  I applied it inside and out with great results.
>>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Sep  9 11:27:23 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:27:23 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
In-Reply-To: <0ef301d4483c$e2416080$a6c42180$@ca>
References: <287EEF16-A483-41CE-8666-EAD43DC7A47D@earthlink.net>
 <0edc01d4478b$c51486b0$4f3d9410$@ca>
 <360EC66F-30AF-41ED-B153-C0AFEC7FEDF4@earthlink.net>
 <0ef301d4483c$e2416080$a6c42180$@ca>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVySwr1e43BKM+aTJZ7YRN50RR3xxkB6gxYuOXR+h8Kgg@mail.gmail.com>

I think Graham has it right.  Had leaks along much of the port side cabin
in the heavy rain (see post of 08-14 Rhodes in the Med).  Fixed it by
attending to the chain plates and ports.  With the liner any port leaks
don't necessarily end up under the ports and the same goes for the chain
plates.  Even a small amount of rain can get channeled idown the stays and
into a void in the sealent around the chain plates and end up looking very
dramatic.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:59 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Tex:
> A poor seal along the deck hull joint will leak when submerged on a heel
> but
> I can't see how rain could get in that way. Are you sure it is rain that is
> entering? You might check the chain plates where they go through the deck.
> They can easily leak as they move back and forth. Water once inside can
> drop
> down far from the point where the chain plates are located.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Tex Hill
> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:20 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
>
> Stains running down the hull, inside from the hull/deck joint.
> Guess I need to take my wife's advice and sit in the boat during the next
> rain.
> Tex
>
> In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
>
> > On Sep 8, 2018, at 10:51, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know how the rub rail could leak from rain. Where does the water
> > appear inside the boat?
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> > Kingston Ontario
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> Of
> > Tex Hill
> > Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 12:09 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rain leaks along rub rail/ hull deck joint
> >
> > Has anyone had rain leaks along the rub rail and if so how did you fix
> it?
> > Tex Hill...."Just You and Me"
> >
> > In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Sep  9 13:08:28 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 19:08:28 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-18 thru 21, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUvF_X-KFrK82fNv1_Uw5epbVp9N517CWpwBpFsdeS2EA@mail.gmail.com>

 Here is a belated update.  Some nice places and pictures, hope you enjoy.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x4wEFqttY2bGl0rzAOkcH4Mv38bIjnVh/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice
Enosis

From watermusic38 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  9 15:51:07 2018
From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (elle)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 19:51:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-18 thru 21, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiUvF_X-KFrK82fNv1_Uw5epbVp9N517CWpwBpFsdeS2EA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiUvF_X-KFrK82fNv1_Uw5epbVp9N517CWpwBpFsdeS2EA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <982146736.2130951.1536522667244@mail.yahoo.com>

Excellent! Exciting! (and better you than me!) You & Alice?handle everything so well. Megamega kudos.
elle 

    On Sunday, September 9, 2018 1:08 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
 

  Here is a belated update.? Some nice places and pictures, hope you enjoy.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x4wEFqttY2bGl0rzAOkcH4Mv38bIjnVh/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice
Enosis
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Sep 10 15:44:23 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:44:23 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-18 thru 21, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <982146736.2130951.1536522667244@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CADNTwiUvF_X-KFrK82fNv1_Uw5epbVp9N517CWpwBpFsdeS2EA@mail.gmail.com>
 <982146736.2130951.1536522667244@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWsaW5r=NKk+QqJRUnZVSH9W-LVuw22qnLM5v+Y05WRhw@mail.gmail.com>

Oh it is just part of "being" I guess..   Easy when there are so many cool
things to photograph.
Thanks for the acknowledgement

Chris & Alice
Enosis

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:51 PM elle via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Excellent! Exciting! (and better you than me!) You & Alice handle
> everything so well. Megamega kudos.
> elle
>
>     On Sunday, September 9, 2018 1:08 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>   Here is a belated update.  Some nice places and pictures, hope you enjoy.
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x4wEFqttY2bGl0rzAOkcH4Mv38bIjnVh/view?usp=sharing
>
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
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From Marc at babineauins.com  Tue Sep 11 10:28:14 2018
From: Marc at babineauins.com (Mrbabs)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:28:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
Message-ID: <1536676094006-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hello Stan et al

Although you have the best getaway vehicles for the approaching storm, I
hope you've headed for the high country and won't be needing them.

Thoughts with all of you Rhodies in the Carolinas.







-----
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s/v Baby Steps 
Westminster MA
Sailing Narragansett Bay

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From rodellner at mac.com  Fri Sep 14 11:26:40 2018
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 10:26:40 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-18 thru 21, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWsaW5r=NKk+QqJRUnZVSH9W-LVuw22qnLM5v+Y05WRhw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiUvF_X-KFrK82fNv1_Uw5epbVp9N517CWpwBpFsdeS2EA@mail.gmail.com>
 <982146736.2130951.1536522667244@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADNTwiWsaW5r=NKk+QqJRUnZVSH9W-LVuw22qnLM5v+Y05WRhw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A1E4E146-4213-4443-A1F1-C233874D7157@mac.com>

Thanks Chris    Vicariously enjoying your trip!

Rod and Mary
St Croix river
Wisconsin 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh it is just part of "being" I guess..   Easy when there are so many cool
> things to photograph.
> Thanks for the acknowledgement
> 
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
> 
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:51 PM elle via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> Excellent! Exciting! (and better you than me!) You & Alice handle
>> everything so well. Megamega kudos.
>> elle
>> 
>>    On Sunday, September 9, 2018 1:08 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Here is a belated update.  Some nice places and pictures, hope you enjoy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x4wEFqttY2bGl0rzAOkcH4Mv38bIjnVh/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> Chris & Alice
>> Enosis
>> __________________________________________________
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>> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep 15 05:40:24 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:40:24 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-22 thru 28, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <CADNTwiV-z=MHpR_UtpgqGQtsqw61_PQSLv=yWmoNi9aj4SL6dw@mail.gmail.com>

First off I hope all the SE Rhodes and their families  are safe (along with
their precious boats)  And a special thought to Stan and Rose too.  While
everyone is hunkered down, here is something to keep you entertained (I
hope).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtK25HbaaC_JUiV5XPssNokq1j7rOFcr/view?usp=sharing
Less than two weeks and we will be back in the U.S. Looking forward to
seeing family.

Chris & Alice
ENOSIS

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep 15 07:56:57 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 13:56:57 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-29 thru 09-07
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWbkHaT4Vui51eJZmh5RWD4wXxoBA4hOjU=VtTgDfUvRA@mail.gmail.com>

So I had time on my hands so here are a few more days.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i44k0nJEmRB7SG8rQB3RymGacokRmRMa/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice

From rodellner at mac.com  Sat Sep 15 14:47:50 2018
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 13:47:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 08-29 thru 09-07
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWbkHaT4Vui51eJZmh5RWD4wXxoBA4hOjU=VtTgDfUvRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWbkHaT4Vui51eJZmh5RWD4wXxoBA4hOjU=VtTgDfUvRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5298C1B4-A8A7-4221-BFC4-58B5CF677579@mac.com>

Thanks Chris.....again enjoying traveling vicariously with you and Alice!

Rod and  Mary
St. Croix rivers
Wisconsin 

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 15, 2018, at 6:56 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So I had time on my hands so here are a few more days.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i44k0nJEmRB7SG8rQB3RymGacokRmRMa/view?usp=sharing
> 
> Chris & Alice
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From rweiss at siu.edu  Sat Sep 15 21:25:25 2018
From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:25:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB and Florence
Message-ID: <1537061125418-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Wishing the best for Stan, Rose and the GB folks. I hope you have escaped the
worst of Florence and will have a dry factory and electricity to allow you
to finish boats for the show. Sorry I won't be there this year to help. 

Bob



-----
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Beach Spring
1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
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From Bgarrant at gmail.com  Sun Sep 16 07:20:05 2018
From: Bgarrant at gmail.com (Bgarrant)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 04:20:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
Message-ID: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up even
though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is that
common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical solution
to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
Thanks very much.
Bob Garrant
s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland
 



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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Sun Sep 16 07:55:47 2018
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:55:47 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
In-Reply-To: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <7D2166EC-47B0-42D7-A40E-43DC0202557C@cowieassociates.com>

Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of the center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a picture next time I am at my boat.


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
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On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:Bgarrant at gmail.com>> wrote:

I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up even
though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is that
common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical solution
to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
Thanks very much.
Bob Garrant
s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland




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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Sun Sep 16 08:03:20 2018
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 08:03:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
In-Reply-To: <7D2166EC-47B0-42D7-A40E-43DC0202557C@cowieassociates.com>
References: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7D2166EC-47B0-42D7-A40E-43DC0202557C@cowieassociates.com>
Message-ID: <CAPi3tBCuA5LRm4QHYmpLHgD1oMCC_uiBnZCav_mR0uvJEX5+-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Chris.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:55 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
wrote:

> Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of the
> center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a
> picture next time I am at my boat.
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>  [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:
> Bgarrant at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up even
> though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is
> that
> common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical solution
> to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
> Thanks very much.
> Bob Garrant
> s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland
>
>
>
>
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Sun Sep 16 11:17:23 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3tBCuA5LRm4QHYmpLHgD1oMCC_uiBnZCav_mR0uvJEX5+-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7D2166EC-47B0-42D7-A40E-43DC0202557C@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAPi3tBCuA5LRm4QHYmpLHgD1oMCC_uiBnZCav_mR0uvJEX5+-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8e765908-3c62-896d-a846-3ca1e97cd2d4@atlanticbb.net>

We used a rail mounted fender hanger to snap over the horizontal bar on 
the poptop and ran a line from that to a jam cleat on the side of the 
center board trunk. Kept the line on the hanger so it was easy to remove 
and install. Also used it as part of our storm prep to ensure that the 
poptop stayed down.

Don't have a photo but here is the fender hanger.
https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Made-Products-1093-Fender/dp/B000MJMN4K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110640&sr=8-2&keywords=rail+mount+fender+clip+boat

And the jam cleat
https://www.amazon.com/MonkeyJack-Sailing-Stainless-Fairlead-Polished/dp/B078BMPLCD/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110860&sr=8-6&keywords=jam+cleat+boat

You may have to copy and past the URL back together.

Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough RF246? Tara

On 9/16/2018 8:03 AM, Bob Garrant wrote:
> Thanks Chris.
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:55 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of the
>> center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a
>> picture next time I am at my boat.
>>
>>
>> Please note our new office address and phone number
>>
>> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>>   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>>
>> 700 N Fairfax Street
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
>> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
>> mobile
>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
>>
>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:
>> Bgarrant at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up even
>> though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is
>> that
>> common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical solution
>> to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
>> Thanks very much.
>> Bob Garrant
>> s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Sun Sep 16 11:49:12 2018
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 15:49:12 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
In-Reply-To: <8e765908-3c62-896d-a846-3ca1e97cd2d4@atlanticbb.net>
References: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7D2166EC-47B0-42D7-A40E-43DC0202557C@cowieassociates.com>
 <CAPi3tBCuA5LRm4QHYmpLHgD1oMCC_uiBnZCav_mR0uvJEX5+-Q@mail.gmail.com>,
 <8e765908-3c62-896d-a846-3ca1e97cd2d4@atlanticbb.net>
Message-ID: <3404D990-6688-4E90-BBF6-6C7A4F96CB62@cowieassociates.com>

Thanks for posting the links, that is exactly what I use on my boat.


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://2/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://2/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://2/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net>> wrote:

We used a rail mounted fender hanger to snap over the horizontal bar on the poptop and ran a line from that to a jam cleat on the side of the center board trunk. Kept the line on the hanger so it was easy to remove and install. Also used it as part of our storm prep to ensure that the poptop stayed down.

Don't have a photo but here is the fender hanger.
https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Made-Products-1093-Fender/dp/B000MJMN4K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110640&sr=8-2&keywords=rail+mount+fender+clip+boat

And the jam cleat
https://www.amazon.com/MonkeyJack-Sailing-Stainless-Fairlead-Polished/dp/B078BMPLCD/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110860&sr=8-6&keywords=jam+cleat+boat

You may have to copy and past the URL back together.

Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough RF246  Tara

On 9/16/2018 8:03 AM, Bob Garrant wrote:
Thanks Chris.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:55 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
wrote:

Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of the
center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a
picture next time I am at my boat.


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
 [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street
<https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com><mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:Bgarrant at gmail.com><mailto:
Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:Bgarrant at gmail.com>>> wrote:

I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up even
though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is
that
common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical solution
to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
Thanks very much.
Bob Garrant
s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland




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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Sun Sep 16 21:42:38 2018
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 21:42:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
In-Reply-To: <8e765908-3c62-896d-a846-3ca1e97cd2d4@atlanticbb.net>
References: <1537096805397-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7D2166EC-47B0-42D7-A40E-43DC0202557C@cowieassociates.com>
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Thanks Mary Lou

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:17 AM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> We used a rail mounted fender hanger to snap over the horizontal bar on
> the poptop and ran a line from that to a jam cleat on the side of the
> center board trunk. Kept the line on the hanger so it was easy to remove
> and install. Also used it as part of our storm prep to ensure that the
> poptop stayed down.
>
> Don't have a photo but here is the fender hanger.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Made-Products-1093-Fender/dp/B000MJMN4K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110640&sr=8-2&keywords=rail+mount+fender+clip+boat
>
> And the jam cleat
>
> https://www.amazon.com/MonkeyJack-Sailing-Stainless-Fairlead-Polished/dp/B078BMPLCD/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110860&sr=8-6&keywords=jam+cleat+boat
>
> You may have to copy and past the URL back together.
>
> Mary Lou
> ex Rhodes 22
> now Rosborough RF246  Tara
>
> On 9/16/2018 8:03 AM, Bob Garrant wrote:
> > Thanks Chris.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:55 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of
> the
> >> center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a
> >> picture next time I am at my boat.
> >>
> >>
> >> Please note our new office address and phone number
> >>
> >> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >>   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >>
> >> 700 N Fairfax Street
> >> <
> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
> >
> >> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> >>
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0%5D%0A%3E%3E%0A%3E%3E+700+N+Fairfax+Street%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E+Suite+304+%0A%3E%3E+Alexandria,+Virgini&entry=gmail&source=g>Suite
> 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> >> Alexandria, Virgini
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0%5D%0A%3E%3E%0A%3E%3E+700+N+Fairfax+Street%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E+Suite+304+%0A%3E%3E+Alexandria,+Virgini&entry=gmail&source=g>a
> 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> >> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> >> mobile
> >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> >>
> >> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:
> >> Bgarrant at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up
> even
> >> though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is
> >> that
> >> common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical
> solution
> >> to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
> >> Thanks very much.
> >> Bob Garrant
> >> s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Tue Sep 18 01:54:05 2018
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:54:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
Message-ID: <5e2e1a3a-e819-f5ad-bef8-b9b1fb44343c@rhodes22.com>


Dear Rhodies,

In response to those whose concerns and good wishes have touched the 
heart strings of the Rhodes crew, we want to thank both of you. And 
insure you that this weather-proof garden of Edenton has come through 
again: Perfect sailing winds. No sandbars to skirt. No flawed fridge 
foods.? Every e-mail made it through.? One of our buildings is missing.? 
(An exaggeration, only Michelle is missing.)

For those not making it to the show, if my earlier show handout has gone 
with the wind, attached is a copy. I conquered PDF.

Rose, Tino, Calvin, me; And Michelle (wherever you are).

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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 02:46:18 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:46:18 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
In-Reply-To: <5e2e1a3a-e819-f5ad-bef8-b9b1fb44343c@rhodes22.com>
References: <5e2e1a3a-e819-f5ad-bef8-b9b1fb44343c@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVqpa8h=xnx-fNpm-d7jsPmuagLbOUm1HDD4Wk=jSnDXg@mail.gmail.com>

Great news Stan,
                       Like your boat, and you, the plant appears
indestructible.  .Yesterday was the last day of this Med sailing
adventure.  Your creation, and you, have kept us safe, entertained, and
excited (sometimes too much so).over these last 3 months and 1,000 miles.
  Thank You Stan

Chris & Alice
S/V Enosis

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:54 AM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Dear Rhodies,
>
> In response to those whose concerns and good wishes have touched the
> heart strings of the Rhodes crew, we want to thank both of you. And
> insure you that this weather-proof garden of Edenton has come through
> again: Perfect sailing winds. No sandbars to skirt. No flawed fridge
> foods.  Every e-mail made it through.  One of our buildings is missing.
> (An exaggeration, only Michelle is missing.)
>
> For those not making it to the show, if my earlier show handout has gone
> with the wind, attached is a copy. I conquered PDF.
>
> Rose, Tino, Calvin, me; And Michelle (wherever you are).
>
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From oehecht at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 06:43:06 2018
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:43:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVqpa8h=xnx-fNpm-d7jsPmuagLbOUm1HDD4Wk=jSnDXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e2e1a3a-e819-f5ad-bef8-b9b1fb44343c@rhodes22.com>
 <CADNTwiVqpa8h=xnx-fNpm-d7jsPmuagLbOUm1HDD4Wk=jSnDXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A65427B9-A717-4D6F-B279-0B8D03DB2019@gmail.com>

Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the show this year. 

The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first. 

Olivier
S/V Fretless

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 2:46 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great news Stan,
>                       Like your boat, and you, the plant appears
> indestructible.  .Yesterday was the last day of this Med sailing
> adventure.  Your creation, and you, have kept us safe, entertained, and
> excited (sometimes too much so).over these last 3 months and 1,000 miles.
>  Thank You Stan
> 
> Chris & Alice
> S/V Enosis
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:54 AM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Rhodies,
>> 
>> In response to those whose concerns and good wishes have touched the
>> heart strings of the Rhodes crew, we want to thank both of you. And
>> insure you that this weather-proof garden of Edenton has come through
>> again: Perfect sailing winds. No sandbars to skirt. No flawed fridge
>> foods.  Every e-mail made it through.  One of our buildings is missing.
>> (An exaggeration, only Michelle is missing.)
>> 
>> For those not making it to the show, if my earlier show handout has gone
>> with the wind, attached is a copy. I conquered PDF.
>> 
>> Rose, Tino, Calvin, me; And Michelle (wherever you are).
>> 
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>>> 
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Tue Sep 18 08:32:23 2018
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:32:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
In-Reply-To: <A65427B9-A717-4D6F-B279-0B8D03DB2019@gmail.com>
References: <5e2e1a3a-e819-f5ad-bef8-b9b1fb44343c@rhodes22.com>
 <CADNTwiVqpa8h=xnx-fNpm-d7jsPmuagLbOUm1HDD4Wk=jSnDXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <A65427B9-A717-4D6F-B279-0B8D03DB2019@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6eb9a017-d43b-b1e2-c746-60690280fde5@rhodes22.com>


Hi Oliver,

Way above my pay grade.? Since I never get an e-mail I send
to the List, sent to me, I also sent a copy of this e-mail to myself
and there is only one "s" in Rhodes as spelled out in the site: 
www.usedrhodes.com? on the show hand out. But you are correct, When you 
click on the link in the copy I attached to my e-mail to
you, "Century Link" does add another "s" and so directs one to a
faux site. I guess it is in keeping with our era of recreational lying, 
normalizing misinformation.

stan


On 9/18/18 6:43 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:

Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the show this year.? The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first.

> Olivier
> S/V Fretless
>


From hnw555 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 08:58:43 2018
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:58:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
In-Reply-To: <6eb9a017-d43b-b1e2-c746-60690280fde5@rhodes22.com>
References: <5e2e1a3a-e819-f5ad-bef8-b9b1fb44343c@rhodes22.com>
 <CADNTwiVqpa8h=xnx-fNpm-d7jsPmuagLbOUm1HDD4Wk=jSnDXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <A65427B9-A717-4D6F-B279-0B8D03DB2019@gmail.com>
 <6eb9a017-d43b-b1e2-c746-60690280fde5@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <CADQNfMCHMXr1JYOwfhCNPnuoiNdr3doUDmFaM-A5e8=YY4Q2+Q@mail.gmail.com>

The link just needed to be edited.  I've fixed it in the attached flyer.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:32 AM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Oliver,
>
> Way above my pay grade.  Since I never get an e-mail I send
> to the List, sent to me, I also sent a copy of this e-mail to myself
> and there is only one "s" in Rhodes as spelled out in the site:
> www.usedrhodes.com  on the show hand out. But you are correct, When you
> click on the link in the copy I attached to my e-mail to
> you, "Century Link" does add another "s" and so directs one to a
> faux site. I guess it is in keeping with our era of recreational lying,
> normalizing misinformation.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 9/18/18 6:43 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>
> Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the
> show this year.  The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did
> notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra
> ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing
> more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first.
>
> > Olivier
> > S/V Fretless
> >
>
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From daysails at aol.com  Tue Sep 18 11:55:13 2018
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:55:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
In-Reply-To: <6eb9a017-d43b-b1e2-c746-60690280fde5@rhodes22.com>
Message-ID: <165ed648597-1ebe-d4a2@webjas-vad170.srv.aolmail.net>




Hi Stan,
I will be at the boat show this year and wondered what day would be a good one to stand around as an unpaid volunteer and share my genuine enthusiasm and limited knowledge.  Joe Riley  S/V Second Wind Lake Hartwell SC



-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2018 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence

Hi Oliver,Way above my pay grade.  Since I never get an e-mail I sendto the List, sent to me, I also sent a copy of this e-mail to myselfand there is only one "s" in Rhodes as spelled out in the site: www.usedrhodes.com  on the show hand out. But you are correct, When you click on the link in the copy I attached to my e-mail toyou, "Century Link" does add another "s" and so directs one to afaux site. I guess it is in keeping with our era of recreational lying, normalizing misinformation.stanOn 9/18/18 6:43 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the show this year.  The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first.> Olivier> S/V Fretless>__________________________________________________To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-listFor the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list__________________________________________________

From stan at rhodes22.com  Tue Sep 18 12:20:41 2018
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:20:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
In-Reply-To: <165ed648597-1ebe-d4a2@webjas-vad170.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <165ed648597-1ebe-d4a2@webjas-vad170.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <2cac6a52-ddec-72c1-275f-292f5428690b@rhodes22.com>


Any day you come would be my preference.

I'll be off the screen after noon on Oct 1.? I will get an exhibitor 
badge for you, if changed plans have not taken you off to some new far 
corner of the solar system.

stan

On 9/18/18 11:55 AM, Sling via Rhodes22-list wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stan,
> I will be at the boat show this year and wondered what day would be a good one to stand around as an unpaid volunteer and share my genuine enthusiasm and limited knowledge.  Joe Riley  S/V Second Wind Lake Hartwell SC
>
>
>


From mike at traildesign.com  Tue Sep 18 18:35:49 2018
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:35:49 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] SV Second Wind
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo9-qqB-bga8YDOG1xqmuyD4vrcQC9hevibL_jgCN7FpwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Sling. I saw your post to Stan and saw the name of your boat is Second
Wind and you're on Lake Hartwell.

I recently purchased a recycled 1988 R22 from GB (it was also named Second
Wind). I live near Athens, GA. and Hartwell is the closest lake to me.
Maybe we could get together sometime.

Michael Riter
President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021

From Djbaines05 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 19:26:41 2018
From: Djbaines05 at gmail.com (DJBaines)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:26:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
Message-ID: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg> 

I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the deck
couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
advice is appreciated. 

DJ Baines 



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From mgwilson1916 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 19:46:14 2018
From: mgwilson1916 at gmail.com (mike wilson)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:46:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi DJ, yes I have a similar issue with the Rhodes I purchased last year.
mine appears to have been de-masted in the past and a PO has cut out a
patch of the head liner to do a repair and then covered the cut out with a
plate, the mast step is now sunk and needs to be properly rebuilt.
Any info on the best approach to rebuild the area would be very helpful to
me too. Sorry i couldn't give you any experienced advise to this repair .

Mike W


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
> deck
> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
> advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
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From Markwynn at Verizon.net  Tue Sep 18 21:27:31 2018
From: Markwynn at Verizon.net (Mark Wynn)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:27:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny
Message-ID: <002401d44fb7$eff1fcd0$cfd5f670$@Verizon.net>


Dear Rhodies,

I am having a problem with reinstalling my furling 170 genny. I can slide
the luff tape into the slot and raise it to about 6 inches from the top, but
it then jams and cannot be persuaded to travel the rest of the way. The
halyard without the sail will easily go up to the top. I have lubricated the
mechanism with dry lube.  Does anyone have a suggestion for raising the sail
the entire way?

Thanks
Mark Wynn
Sailing Windchimes
Magothy River, Maryland


From rweiss at siu.edu  Tue Sep 18 21:36:05 2018
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Robert Louis Weiss)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 01:36:05 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny
In-Reply-To: <002401d44fb7$eff1fcd0$cfd5f670$@Verizon.net>
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I had a problem with my 170 a couple years ago. My furling tube is constructed of several lengths of black plastic held together with screws. One of the screws had come loose about 1/2 way up and part of the furling tube came loose enough to catch the sail. I had to drop the mast and put a larger screw in that spot to make the track smooth again.


Bob

Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:27:31 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny


Dear Rhodies,

I am having a problem with reinstalling my furling 170 genny. I can slide
the luff tape into the slot and raise it to about 6 inches from the top, but
it then jams and cannot be persuaded to travel the rest of the way. The
halyard without the sail will easily go up to the top. I have lubricated the
mechanism with dry lube.  Does anyone have a suggestion for raising the sail
the entire way?

Thanks
Mark Wynn
Sailing Windchimes
Magothy River, Maryland

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From Markwynn at Verizon.net  Tue Sep 18 22:04:01 2018
From: Markwynn at Verizon.net (Mark Wynn)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:04:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny
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 <DM5PR07MB28603D46ADA364A02913436AC61C0@DM5PR07MB2860.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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Thanks Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Louis Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:36 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny

I had a problem with my 170 a couple years ago. My furling tube is
constructed of several lengths of black plastic held together with screws.
One of the screws had come loose about 1/2 way up and part of the furling
tube came loose enough to catch the sail. I had to drop the mast and put a
larger screw in that spot to make the track smooth again.


Bob

Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Mark
Wynn <Markwynn at Verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:27:31 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny


Dear Rhodies,

I am having a problem with reinstalling my furling 170 genny. I can slide
the luff tape into the slot and raise it to about 6 inches from the top, but
it then jams and cannot be persuaded to travel the rest of the way. The
halyard without the sail will easily go up to the top. I have lubricated the
mechanism with dry lube.  Does anyone have a suggestion for raising the sail
the entire way?

Thanks
Mark Wynn
Sailing Windchimes
Magothy River, Maryland

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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Wed Sep 19 10:30:33 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:30:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <012501d45025$530251e0$f906f5a0$@ca>

There are a number of posts in the archives regarding repair of the floor
struts under the compression post. 

On older boats, including mine, the support struts (or whatever they are
called) compressed -usually because they were rotten and/or the compression
from the mast was too great due to making the rigging to tight.

In my case, I had to remove the compression post and bulkhead to replace the
whole strut. For other reasons I replaced all of the floor stringers and
replaced the floor while I was at it. In any event, If I understand the
problem, you need to start at the bottom to make the repairs.

The fact that the liner appears to have been removed suggests that the deck
coring in that area also rotted out. Replacing deck core can be a fairly
major task depending on how extensive it is. 

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
mike wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

Hi DJ, yes I have a similar issue with the Rhodes I purchased last year.
mine appears to have been de-masted in the past and a PO has cut out a
patch of the head liner to do a repair and then covered the cut out with a
plate, the mast step is now sunk and needs to be properly rebuilt.
Any info on the best approach to rebuild the area would be very helpful to
me too. Sorry i couldn't give you any experienced advise to this repair .

Mike W


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
> deck
> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
> advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
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From gjnovotny at comcast.net  Wed Sep 19 14:04:26 2018
From: gjnovotny at comcast.net (gjnovotny at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:04:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <012501d45025$530251e0$f906f5a0$@ca>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw@mail.gmail.com>
 <012501d45025$530251e0$f906f5a0$@ca>
Message-ID: <009601d45043$34de6cd0$9e9b4670$@comcast.net>

I had a problem with the strut on my 1978 Rhodes. In my case the
compression post sat originally on top of a floor strut which was lightly
tabbed to the hull and was faced by a poured slab of ballast in the front .
The floor strut was rotted out due to water intrusion from the leaking
forward ports saturating the ballast. As a result  the compression post
depressed down about 1 and 1/4" until it rested firmly on top of the ballast
preventing  any further depression.

 I was able to fabricate a new strut by creating a template from the
remnants of the old one. The new one was epoxy impregnated and heavily glued
with thickened epoxy to the face of the now dried ballast material and also
well tabbed to the hull with multiple layers of 1708 biaxial and epoxy
resin. I did this without removing the compression post. Instead I used a
floor jack and a 2x8 to raise the liner above and slightly beyond the
desired elevation and I fitted another sized 2x6  to hold it up while I
worked. I ground out several delaminated spots in fiberglass covering the
top of the ballast and fully covered it with  3 layers of 1708 and epoxy
resin. I created a apx 12x12" plate of epoxy impregnated 3/4" marine plywood
and a smaller 3x5" plate of epoxy impregnated  1/2 marine plywood. The
compression post now sits on top of the floor strut but also mostly on top
of  3x5 plate layered on top of the 12x12 that's glued to the biaxial on the
top of the ballast to distribute the load.

 I haven't seen any problems with the compression post in the three years
that followed the repair.

Gary
1978 Rhodes 22 S/V Moon Shadow.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Graham
Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:31 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

There are a number of posts in the archives regarding repair of the floor
struts under the compression post. 

On older boats, including mine, the support struts (or whatever they are
called) compressed -usually because they were rotten and/or the compression
from the mast was too great due to making the rigging to tight.

In my case, I had to remove the compression post and bulkhead to replace the
whole strut. For other reasons I replaced all of the floor stringers and
replaced the floor while I was at it. In any event, If I understand the
problem, you need to start at the bottom to make the repairs.

The fact that the liner appears to have been removed suggests that the deck
coring in that area also rotted out. Replacing deck core can be a fairly
major task depending on how extensive it is. 

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
mike wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

Hi DJ, yes I have a similar issue with the Rhodes I purchased last year.
mine appears to have been de-masted in the past and a PO has cut out a patch
of the head liner to do a repair and then covered the cut out with a plate,
the mast step is now sunk and needs to be properly rebuilt.
Any info on the best approach to rebuild the area would be very helpful to
me too. Sorry i couldn't give you any experienced advise to this repair .

Mike W


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of 
> the mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood 
> underneath is likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the 
> weight and the deck couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine 
> that I'll cut out the damaged area and repair with fiberglass and 
> epoxy then screw in the mast stay screws. Anyone else experience this 
> problem? Do I have the right plan to repair? I took the mast down last 
> weekend and want to get it back in shape quickly as this is typically 
> a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> __________________________________________________
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> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 13:20:48 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:20:48 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWCqqqAYs412tnwjbZJtwwH6cmDSmRJs_s+vSa0DnNSrw@mail.gmail.com>

Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing


Chris & Alice
Enosis

P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 13:26:44 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:26:44 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
Message-ID: <CADNTwiU_H8rpNDR=KHzPyjg8VPQ3SZnFO42HNCyqmKJmrzJOgQ@mail.gmail.com>

So the End has come.  This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.  I'll try to
have it ready before the boat show.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
S/V ENOSIS

From gjnovotny at comcast.net  Thu Sep 20 17:52:40 2018
From: gjnovotny at comcast.net (Gary Novotny)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:52:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWCqqqAYs412tnwjbZJtwwH6cmDSmRJs_s+vSa0DnNSrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWCqqqAYs412tnwjbZJtwwH6cmDSmRJs_s+vSa0DnNSrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ac53ca22-4c53-7fcc-3240-3e1b0e0dcb14@comcast.net>

Chris,

I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the 
less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of 
boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays 
tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. 
A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided 
boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.? Wise 
decision to move on.

Gary

S/V Moon Shadow

Fort Pierce Florida


On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
>
> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
> __________________________________________________
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>
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> __________________________________________________
>

-- 
Gary Novotny
7309 S Indian River Drive
Fort Pierce Florida 34982
772-4660956 home
772-9715753 cell
gjnovotny at comcast.net


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 21 01:23:24 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:23:24 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <ac53ca22-4c53-7fcc-3240-3e1b0e0dcb14@comcast.net>
References: <CADNTwiWCqqqAYs412tnwjbZJtwwH6cmDSmRJs_s+vSa0DnNSrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac53ca22-4c53-7fcc-3240-3e1b0e0dcb14@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <332D884C-3064-4644-99F4-A800DF87409D@gmail.com>

Hi Gary,
            Yes the experience was like hitting your funny bone. Actually not a holiday as such, just the last weekend before school started. The week long holiday on the 15 of August is twice as crazy. If you are around, we should get together for a beer in November   We keep Enosis II at Riverside Marina on the hard. 

Chris G
ENOSIS


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.  Wise decision to move on.
> 
> Gary
> 
> S/V Moon Shadow
> 
> Fort Pierce Florida
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
>> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> 
>> Chris & Alice
>> Enosis
>> 
>> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
>> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Gary Novotny
> 7309 S Indian River Drive
> Fort Pierce Florida 34982
> 772-4660956 home
> 772-9715753 cell
> gjnovotny at comcast.net
> 
> __________________________________________________
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From gjnovotny at comcast.net  Fri Sep 21 18:20:43 2018
From: gjnovotny at comcast.net (Gary Novotny)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:20:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <332D884C-3064-4644-99F4-A800DF87409D@gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWCqqqAYs412tnwjbZJtwwH6cmDSmRJs_s+vSa0DnNSrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac53ca22-4c53-7fcc-3240-3e1b0e0dcb14@comcast.net>
 <332D884C-3064-4644-99F4-A800DF87409D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99399258-46c5-77e2-d937-ccdb13217995@comcast.net>

Chris and Alice,

By all means I'd love to meet up and have a beer. I'll be in the area 
all month in November give me a call or text me when its convenient for you.

Regards,

Gary

772-4660956 home
772-9715753 cell


On 9/21/2018 1:23 AM, Chris wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>              Yes the experience was like hitting your funny bone. Actually not a holiday as such, just the last weekend before school started. The week long holiday on the 15 of August is twice as crazy. If you are around, we should get together for a beer in November   We keep Enosis II at Riverside Marina on the hard.
>
> Chris G
> ENOSIS
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.  Wise decision to move on.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> S/V Moon Shadow
>>
>> Fort Pierce Florida
>>
>>
>>> On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
>>> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris & Alice
>>> Enosis
>>>
>>> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
>>> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>> -- 
>> Gary Novotny
>> 7309 S Indian River Drive
>> Fort Pierce Florida 34982
>> 772-4660956 home
>> 772-9715753 cell
>> gjnovotny at comcast.net
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> __________________________________________________
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>

-- 
Gary Novotny
7309 S Indian River Drive
Fort Pierce Florida 34982
772-4660956 home
772-9715753 cell
gjnovotny at comcast.net


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep 22 03:00:33 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:00:33 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
In-Reply-To: <99399258-46c5-77e2-d937-ccdb13217995@comcast.net>
References: <CADNTwiWCqqqAYs412tnwjbZJtwwH6cmDSmRJs_s+vSa0DnNSrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac53ca22-4c53-7fcc-3240-3e1b0e0dcb14@comcast.net>
 <332D884C-3064-4644-99F4-A800DF87409D@gmail.com>
 <99399258-46c5-77e2-d937-ccdb13217995@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F0E2218C-93B2-4D22-B1C0-C00BDF6A6604@gmail.com>

Hey Gary,
Looking forward to it. Just had the customs guy put on the custom seals. All is right in this corner of the world. 

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 12:20 AM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Chris and Alice,
> 
> By all means I'd love to meet up and have a beer. I'll be in the area all month in November give me a call or text me when its convenient for you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gary
> 
> 772-4660956 home
> 772-9715753 cell
> 
> 
>> On 9/21/2018 1:23 AM, Chris wrote:
>> Hi Gary,
>>             Yes the experience was like hitting your funny bone. Actually not a holiday as such, just the last weekend before school started. The week long holiday on the 15 of August is twice as crazy. If you are around, we should get together for a beer in November   We keep Enosis II at Riverside Marina on the hard.
>> 
>> Chris G
>> ENOSIS
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.  Wise decision to move on.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> S/V Moon Shadow
>>> 
>>> Fort Pierce Florida
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
>>>> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>>>> 
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>> Enosis
>>>> 
>>>> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
>>>> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
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From daysails at aol.com  Sat Sep 22 07:31:36 2018
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal,
 Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
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Message-ID: <430738061.735308.1537615896725@mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Chris and Alice,
It truly has been a ride to remember!? I admire your courage and commitment to follow your dream and take us with you.? You write with a very engaging style. I enjoyed the history and appreciate the effort you made to include maps and pictures ? The pictures of "our" Rhodes in exotic settings stirs the arm chair adventurer in me.? How wonderful to be able to sail into your past, fifty years ago on a boat of the same age!? Kudos to you two.? You have a place right beside Slocum in my sailing library.? I think Slocum had less of a bureaucratic paper trial on his journeys.? Looking forward to reading about your next Rhodes 22 sailing adventure!? Thanks again for sharing with da list.? Joe Riley? S/V Second Wind, Big Water Marina, Lake Hartwell, South Carolina

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Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2018 1:26 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19

So the End has come.? This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.? I'll try to
have it ready before the boat show.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
S/V ENOSIS
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep 22 14:19:34 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 20:19:34 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal,
	Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
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Hey Joe,
            Slocum!  He was my 2nd inspiration, I think Huck Finn was my
first!  Slocum, gee, you know, I thought about scattering tacks on the deck
to ward off the natives, and hoping to hear some "un Christian-like oaths"
but they all wear Nikes or Adidas.  We so enjoyed the adventure, sharing
it, and the feedback from all of you guys on Da List.  We are sitting in
the lap of luxury in an Airbnb which is the whole villa but has 3 other
bedrooms.  And we, are the only ones here, all for 43 euros a night.  I
still find my self sleeping on only the first 20 inches of the king size
bed and wanting to pee in a bottle,  When it started raining in the middle
of the night, I sat bolt upright and tried to find the hatch to close, and
check on the anchor.  It may take a while to get used to this stable land
thing.  Anyway, glad you enjoyed this leg of the voyage.  Next year it will
be exactly 50 years that I will have left the island of Ischia and headed
south.  We are looking forward to that adventure too.

Chris & Alice
ENOSIS I

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 1:31 PM Sling via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hey Chris and Alice,
> It truly has been a ride to remember!  I admire your courage and
> commitment to follow your dream and take us with you.  You write with a
> very engaging style. I enjoyed the history and appreciate the effort you
> made to include maps and pictures   The pictures of "our" Rhodes in exotic
> settings stirs the arm chair adventurer in me.  How wonderful to be able to
> sail into your past, fifty years ago on a boat of the same age!  Kudos to
> you two.  You have a place right beside Slocum in my sailing library.  I
> think Slocum had less of a bureaucratic paper trial on his journeys.
> Looking forward to reading about your next Rhodes 22 sailing adventure!
> Thanks again for sharing with da list.  Joe Riley  S/V Second Wind, Big
> Water Marina, Lake Hartwell, South Carolina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2018 1:26 pm
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
>
> So the End has come.  This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
> going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
> I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
> some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.  I'll try to
> have it ready before the boat show.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing
>
> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> S/V ENOSIS
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From koatimundi100 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 22 14:46:27 2018
From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:46:27 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence  [Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4096,
	Issue 1]
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Very glad to get your update, Stan. Since I hadn?t heard from you since our last exchange (pre- or mid-Florence), I was about to try the phone. 

What the H--, I?ll call nonetheless. (So you?re fore-warned!)

Sounds like you & General Boats, and all the older R22s surrounding you, came thru OK. I feared they might have assembled into a Florentine Flotilla out in Albemarle Sound.

I?ve already told you I can?t make it to Annapolis.  Have fun & sell lots of R22s.

Peter K

s/v Aeolia 







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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Locking the Pop-Top? (Chris Cowie)
   2. Re: Locking the Pop-Top? (Bob Garrant)
   3. Florence (Stan Spitzer)
   4. Re: Florence (Chris Geankoplis)
   5. Re: Florence (Olivier Hecht)
   6. Re: Florence (Stan Spitzer)
   7. Re: Florence (Hank)
   8. Re: Florence (daysails at aol.com)
   9. Re: Florence (Stan Spitzer)
  10. SV Second Wind (Mike Riter)
  11. Mast Stay and Deck Compression (DJBaines)
  12. Re: Mast Stay and Deck Compression (mike wilson)
  13. Fixing a jammed genny (Mark Wynn)
  14. Re: Fixing a jammed genny (Robert Louis Weiss)
  15. Re: Fixing a jammed genny (Mark Wynn)
  16. Re: Mast Stay and Deck Compression (Graham Stewart)
  17. Re: Mast Stay and Deck Compression (gjnovotny at comcast.net)
  18. 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med (Chris Geankoplis)
  19. Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
      (Chris Geankoplis)
  20. Re: 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med (Gary Novotny)
  21. Re: 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med (Chris)
  22. Re: 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med (Gary Novotny)
  23. Re: 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med (Chris)
  24. Re: Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
      (daysails at aol.com)
  25. Re: Last trip Journal,	Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
      (Chris Geankoplis)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 15:49:12 +0000
From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
Message-ID: <3404D990-6688-4E90-BBF6-6C7A4F96CB62 at cowieassociates.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks for posting the links, that is exactly what I use on my boat.


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://2/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://2/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://2/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470> mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net>> wrote:

We used a rail mounted fender hanger to snap over the horizontal bar on the poptop and ran a line from that to a jam cleat on the side of the center board trunk. Kept the line on the hanger so it was easy to remove and install. Also used it as part of our storm prep to ensure that the poptop stayed down.

Don't have a photo but here is the fender hanger.
https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Made-Products-1093-Fender/dp/B000MJMN4K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110640&sr=8-2&keywords=rail+mount+fender+clip+boat

And the jam cleat
https://www.amazon.com/MonkeyJack-Sailing-Stainless-Fairlead-Polished/dp/B078BMPLCD/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110860&sr=8-6&keywords=jam+cleat+boat

You may have to copy and past the URL back together.

Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough RF246  Tara

On 9/16/2018 8:03 AM, Bob Garrant wrote:
Thanks Chris.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:55 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>>
wrote:

Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of the
center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a
picture next time I am at my boat.


Please note our new office address and phone number

Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
[cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]

700 N Fairfax Street
<https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g>
<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com><mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:Bgarrant at gmail.com><mailto:
Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:Bgarrant at gmail.com>>> wrote:

I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up even
though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is
that
common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical solution
to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
Thanks very much.
Bob Garrant
s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 21:42:38 -0400
From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Locking the Pop-Top?
Message-ID:
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Thanks Mary Lou

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:17 AM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> We used a rail mounted fender hanger to snap over the horizontal bar on
> the poptop and ran a line from that to a jam cleat on the side of the
> center board trunk. Kept the line on the hanger so it was easy to remove
> and install. Also used it as part of our storm prep to ensure that the
> poptop stayed down.
>
> Don't have a photo but here is the fender hanger.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Made-Products-1093-Fender/dp/B000MJMN4K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110640&sr=8-2&keywords=rail+mount+fender+clip+boat
>
> And the jam cleat
>
> https://www.amazon.com/MonkeyJack-Sailing-Stainless-Fairlead-Polished/dp/B078BMPLCD/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1537110860&sr=8-6&keywords=jam+cleat+boat
>
> You may have to copy and past the URL back together.
>
> Mary Lou
> ex Rhodes 22
> now Rosborough RF246  Tara
>
> On 9/16/2018 8:03 AM, Bob Garrant wrote:
> > Thanks Chris.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:55 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes that is common.  The solution is to install a cleat on the side of
> the
> >> center board trunk and tie down the hatch before closing.  I can send a
> >> picture next time I am at my boat.
> >>
> >>
> >> Please note our new office address and phone number
> >>
> >> Christopher P. Cowie  [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >>   [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >>
> >> 700 N Fairfax Street
> >> <
> https://maps.google.com/?q=700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0D%0ASuite+304+%0D%0AAlexandria,+Virginia+22314+%0D%0A703&entry=gmail&source=g
> >
> >> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> >>
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0%5D%0A%3E%3E%0A%3E%3E+700+N+Fairfax+Street%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E+Suite+304+%0A%3E%3E+Alexandria,+Virgini&entry=gmail&source=g>Suite
> 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> >> Alexandria, Virgini
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0%5D%0A%3E%3E%0A%3E%3E+700+N+Fairfax+Street%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E++%0A%3E%3E+Suite+304+%0A%3E%3E+Alexandria,+Virgini&entry=gmail&source=g>a
> 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> >> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> >> mobile
> >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> >>
> >> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Bgarrant <Bgarrant at gmail.com<mailto:
> >> Bgarrant at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just discovered that the pop-top on my Rhodes 2000 can be lifted up
> even
> >> though the push-button lock prevents the sliding hatch from opening. Is
> >> that
> >> common with the Rhodes? If so, has anyone come up with a practical
> solution
> >> to secure the pop-top in a closed and down position?
> >> Thanks very much.
> >> Bob Garrant
> >> s/v Rhodes 2000 Sail la Vie on Kent Island Maryland
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:54:05 -0400
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, "Derby,
	Mike" <Michael.Derby at 2wglobal.com>, stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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Dear Rhodies,

In response to those whose concerns and good wishes have touched the 
heart strings of the Rhodes crew, we want to thank both of you. And 
insure you that this weather-proof garden of Edenton has come through 
again: Perfect sailing winds. No sandbars to skirt. No flawed fridge 
foods.? Every e-mail made it through.? One of our buildings is missing.? 
(An exaggeration, only Michelle is missing.)

For those not making it to the show, if my earlier show handout has gone 
with the wind, attached is a copy. I conquered PDF.

Rose, Tino, Calvin, me; And Michelle (wherever you are).

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:46:18 +0200
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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Great news Stan,
                       Like your boat, and you, the plant appears
indestructible.  .Yesterday was the last day of this Med sailing
adventure.  Your creation, and you, have kept us safe, entertained, and
excited (sometimes too much so).over these last 3 months and 1,000 miles.
  Thank You Stan

Chris & Alice
S/V Enosis

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:54 AM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Dear Rhodies,
>
> In response to those whose concerns and good wishes have touched the
> heart strings of the Rhodes crew, we want to thank both of you. And
> insure you that this weather-proof garden of Edenton has come through
> again: Perfect sailing winds. No sandbars to skirt. No flawed fridge
> foods.  Every e-mail made it through.  One of our buildings is missing.
> (An exaggeration, only Michelle is missing.)
>
> For those not making it to the show, if my earlier show handout has gone
> with the wind, attached is a copy. I conquered PDF.
>
> Rose, Tino, Calvin, me; And Michelle (wherever you are).
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:43:06 -0400
From: Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the show this year. 

The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first. 

Olivier
S/V Fretless

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 2:46 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great news Stan,
>                       Like your boat, and you, the plant appears
> indestructible.  .Yesterday was the last day of this Med sailing
> adventure.  Your creation, and you, have kept us safe, entertained, and
> excited (sometimes too much so).over these last 3 months and 1,000 miles.
>  Thank You Stan
> 
> Chris & Alice
> S/V Enosis
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:54 AM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Rhodies,
>> 
>> In response to those whose concerns and good wishes have touched the
>> heart strings of the Rhodes crew, we want to thank both of you. And
>> insure you that this weather-proof garden of Edenton has come through
>> again: Perfect sailing winds. No sandbars to skirt. No flawed fridge
>> foods.  Every e-mail made it through.  One of our buildings is missing.
>> (An exaggeration, only Michelle is missing.)
>> 
>> For those not making it to the show, if my earlier show handout has gone
>> with the wind, attached is a copy. I conquered PDF.
>> 
>> Rose, Tino, Calvin, me; And Michelle (wherever you are).
>> 
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:32:23 -0400
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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Hi Oliver,

Way above my pay grade.? Since I never get an e-mail I send
to the List, sent to me, I also sent a copy of this e-mail to myself
and there is only one "s" in Rhodes as spelled out in the site: 
www.usedrhodes.com? on the show hand out. But you are correct, When you 
click on the link in the copy I attached to my e-mail to
you, "Century Link" does add another "s" and so directs one to a
faux site. I guess it is in keeping with our era of recreational lying, 
normalizing misinformation.

stan


On 9/18/18 6:43 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:

Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the show this year.? The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first.

> Olivier
> S/V Fretless
>



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:58:43 -0400
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, stan
	<stan at rhodes22.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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	<CADQNfMCHMXr1JYOwfhCNPnuoiNdr3doUDmFaM-A5e8=YY4Q2+Q at mail.gmail.com>
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The link just needed to be edited.  I've fixed it in the attached flyer.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:32 AM Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Oliver,
>
> Way above my pay grade.  Since I never get an e-mail I send
> to the List, sent to me, I also sent a copy of this e-mail to myself
> and there is only one "s" in Rhodes as spelled out in the site:
> www.usedrhodes.com  on the show hand out. But you are correct, When you
> click on the link in the copy I attached to my e-mail to
> you, "Century Link" does add another "s" and so directs one to a
> faux site. I guess it is in keeping with our era of recreational lying,
> normalizing misinformation.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 9/18/18 6:43 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>
> Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the
> show this year.  The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did
> notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra
> ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing
> more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first.
>
> > Olivier
> > S/V Fretless
> >
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:55:13 -0400
From: daysails at aol.com
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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Hi Stan,
I will be at the boat show this year and wondered what day would be a good one to stand around as an unpaid volunteer and share my genuine enthusiasm and limited knowledge.  Joe Riley  S/V Second Wind Lake Hartwell SC



-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2018 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence

Hi Oliver,Way above my pay grade.  Since I never get an e-mail I sendto the List, sent to me, I also sent a copy of this e-mail to myselfand there is only one "s" in Rhodes as spelled out in the site: www.usedrhodes.com  on the show hand out. But you are correct, When you click on the link in the copy I attached to my e-mail toyou, "Century Link" does add another "s" and so directs one to afaux site. I guess it is in keeping with our era of recreational lying, normalizing misinformation.stanOn 9/18/18 6:43 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:Hi Stan. Glad you and the plant are all OK, and I hope to see you at the show this year.  The pdf is compelling even for a current owner!  I did notice that the actual link behind the usedrhodes.com text has an extra ?s? in it so it doesn?t work properly - in case you?re planning on sharing more copies of the pdf electronically and want to fix that first.> Olivier> S/V Fretless>__________________________________________________To subscribe/unsubscrib
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:20:41 -0400
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: daysails at aol.com, The Rhodes 22 Email List
	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florence
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Any day you come would be my preference.

I'll be off the screen after noon on Oct 1.? I will get an exhibitor 
badge for you, if changed plans have not taken you off to some new far 
corner of the solar system.

stan

On 9/18/18 11:55 AM, Sling via Rhodes22-list wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stan,
> I will be at the boat show this year and wondered what day would be a good one to stand around as an unpaid volunteer and share my genuine enthusiasm and limited knowledge.  Joe Riley  S/V Second Wind Lake Hartwell SC
>
>
>



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:35:49 -0500
From: Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] SV Second Wind
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Hey Sling. I saw your post to Stan and saw the name of your boat is Second
Wind and you're on Lake Hartwell.

I recently purchased a recycled 1988 R22 from GB (it was also named Second
Wind). I live near Athens, GA. and Hartwell is the closest lake to me.
Maybe we could get together sometime.

Michael Riter
President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:26:41 -0700 (MST)
From: DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg> 

I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the deck
couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
advice is appreciated. 

DJ Baines 



--
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:46:14 -0400
From: mike wilson <mgwilson1916 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
Message-ID:
	<CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi DJ, yes I have a similar issue with the Rhodes I purchased last year.
mine appears to have been de-masted in the past and a PO has cut out a
patch of the head liner to do a repair and then covered the cut out with a
plate, the mast step is now sunk and needs to be properly rebuilt.
Any info on the best approach to rebuild the area would be very helpful to
me too. Sorry i couldn't give you any experienced advise to this repair .

Mike W


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
> deck
> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
> advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:27:31 -0400
From: "Mark Wynn" <Markwynn at Verizon.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny
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Dear Rhodies,

I am having a problem with reinstalling my furling 170 genny. I can slide
the luff tape into the slot and raise it to about 6 inches from the top, but
it then jams and cannot be persuaded to travel the rest of the way. The
halyard without the sail will easily go up to the top. I have lubricated the
mechanism with dry lube.  Does anyone have a suggestion for raising the sail
the entire way?

Thanks
Mark Wynn
Sailing Windchimes
Magothy River, Maryland



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 01:36:05 +0000
From: Robert Louis Weiss <rweiss at siu.edu>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny
Message-ID:
	<DM5PR07MB28603D46ADA364A02913436AC61C0 at DM5PR07MB2860.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I had a problem with my 170 a couple years ago. My furling tube is constructed of several lengths of black plastic held together with screws. One of the screws had come loose about 1/2 way up and part of the furling tube came loose enough to catch the sail. I had to drop the mast and put a larger screw in that spot to make the track smooth again.


Bob

Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Mark Wynn <Markwynn at Verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:27:31 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny


Dear Rhodies,

I am having a problem with reinstalling my furling 170 genny. I can slide
the luff tape into the slot and raise it to about 6 inches from the top, but
it then jams and cannot be persuaded to travel the rest of the way. The
halyard without the sail will easily go up to the top. I have lubricated the
mechanism with dry lube.  Does anyone have a suggestion for raising the sail
the entire way?

Thanks
Mark Wynn
Sailing Windchimes
Magothy River, Maryland

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:04:01 -0400
From: "Mark Wynn" <Markwynn at Verizon.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny
Message-ID: <002501d44fbd$09600d10$1c202730$@Verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Louis Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:36 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny

I had a problem with my 170 a couple years ago. My furling tube is
constructed of several lengths of black plastic held together with screws.
One of the screws had come loose about 1/2 way up and part of the furling
tube came loose enough to catch the sail. I had to drop the mast and put a
larger screw in that spot to make the track smooth again.


Bob

Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Mark
Wynn <Markwynn at Verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:27:31 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fixing a jammed genny


Dear Rhodies,

I am having a problem with reinstalling my furling 170 genny. I can slide
the luff tape into the slot and raise it to about 6 inches from the top, but
it then jams and cannot be persuaded to travel the rest of the way. The
halyard without the sail will easily go up to the top. I have lubricated the
mechanism with dry lube.  Does anyone have a suggestion for raising the sail
the entire way?

Thanks
Mark Wynn
Sailing Windchimes
Magothy River, Maryland

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:30:33 -0400
From: "Graham Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
Message-ID: <012501d45025$530251e0$f906f5a0$@ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

There are a number of posts in the archives regarding repair of the floor
struts under the compression post. 

On older boats, including mine, the support struts (or whatever they are
called) compressed -usually because they were rotten and/or the compression
from the mast was too great due to making the rigging to tight.

In my case, I had to remove the compression post and bulkhead to replace the
whole strut. For other reasons I replaced all of the floor stringers and
replaced the floor while I was at it. In any event, If I understand the
problem, you need to start at the bottom to make the repairs.

The fact that the liner appears to have been removed suggests that the deck
coring in that area also rotted out. Replacing deck core can be a fairly
major task depending on how extensive it is. 

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
mike wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

Hi DJ, yes I have a similar issue with the Rhodes I purchased last year.
mine appears to have been de-masted in the past and a PO has cut out a
patch of the head liner to do a repair and then covered the cut out with a
plate, the mast step is now sunk and needs to be properly rebuilt.
Any info on the best approach to rebuild the area would be very helpful to
me too. Sorry i couldn't give you any experienced advise to this repair .

Mike W


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
> deck
> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
> advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> __________________________________________________
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:04:26 -0400
From: <gjnovotny at comcast.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
Message-ID: <009601d45043$34de6cd0$9e9b4670$@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I had a problem with the strut on my 1978 Rhodes. In my case the
compression post sat originally on top of a floor strut which was lightly
tabbed to the hull and was faced by a poured slab of ballast in the front .
The floor strut was rotted out due to water intrusion from the leaking
forward ports saturating the ballast. As a result  the compression post
depressed down about 1 and 1/4" until it rested firmly on top of the ballast
preventing  any further depression.

I was able to fabricate a new strut by creating a template from the
remnants of the old one. The new one was epoxy impregnated and heavily glued
with thickened epoxy to the face of the now dried ballast material and also
well tabbed to the hull with multiple layers of 1708 biaxial and epoxy
resin. I did this without removing the compression post. Instead I used a
floor jack and a 2x8 to raise the liner above and slightly beyond the
desired elevation and I fitted another sized 2x6  to hold it up while I
worked. I ground out several delaminated spots in fiberglass covering the
top of the ballast and fully covered it with  3 layers of 1708 and epoxy
resin. I created a apx 12x12" plate of epoxy impregnated 3/4" marine plywood
and a smaller 3x5" plate of epoxy impregnated  1/2 marine plywood. The
compression post now sits on top of the floor strut but also mostly on top
of  3x5 plate layered on top of the 12x12 that's glued to the biaxial on the
top of the ballast to distribute the load.

I haven't seen any problems with the compression post in the three years
that followed the repair.

Gary
1978 Rhodes 22 S/V Moon Shadow.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Graham
Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:31 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

There are a number of posts in the archives regarding repair of the floor
struts under the compression post. 

On older boats, including mine, the support struts (or whatever they are
called) compressed -usually because they were rotten and/or the compression
from the mast was too great due to making the rigging to tight.

In my case, I had to remove the compression post and bulkhead to replace the
whole strut. For other reasons I replaced all of the floor stringers and
replaced the floor while I was at it. In any event, If I understand the
problem, you need to start at the bottom to make the repairs.

The fact that the liner appears to have been removed suggests that the deck
coring in that area also rotted out. Replacing deck core can be a fairly
major task depending on how extensive it is. 

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
mike wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

Hi DJ, yes I have a similar issue with the Rhodes I purchased last year.
mine appears to have been de-masted in the past and a PO has cut out a patch
of the head liner to do a repair and then covered the cut out with a plate,
the mast step is now sunk and needs to be properly rebuilt.
Any info on the best approach to rebuild the area would be very helpful to
me too. Sorry i couldn't give you any experienced advise to this repair .

Mike W


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of 
> the mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood 
> underneath is likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the 
> weight and the deck couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine 
> that I'll cut out the damaged area and repair with fiberglass and 
> epoxy then screw in the mast stay screws. Anyone else experience this 
> problem? Do I have the right plan to repair? I took the mast down last 
> weekend and want to get it back in shape quickly as this is typically 
> a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> __________________________________________________
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> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:20:48 +0200
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing


Chris & Alice
Enosis

P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.


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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:26:44 +0200
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12
	thru 19
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	<CADNTwiU_H8rpNDR=KHzPyjg8VPQ3SZnFO42HNCyqmKJmrzJOgQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

So the End has come.  This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.  I'll try to
have it ready before the boat show.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
S/V ENOSIS


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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:52:40 -0400
From: Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <ac53ca22-4c53-7fcc-3240-3e1b0e0dcb14 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Chris,

I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the 
less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of 
boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays 
tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. 
A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided 
boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.? Wise 
decision to move on.

Gary

S/V Moon Shadow

Fort Pierce Florida


On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> Chris & Alice
> Enosis
>
> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> __________________________________________________
>

-- 
Gary Novotny
7309 S Indian River Drive
Fort Pierce Florida 34982
772-4660956 home
772-9715753 cell
gjnovotny at comcast.net



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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:23:24 +0200
From: Chris <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <332D884C-3064-4644-99F4-A800DF87409D at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Hi Gary,
            Yes the experience was like hitting your funny bone. Actually not a holiday as such, just the last weekend before school started. The week long holiday on the 15 of August is twice as crazy. If you are around, we should get together for a beer in November   We keep Enosis II at Riverside Marina on the hard. 

Chris G
ENOSIS


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.  Wise decision to move on.
> 
> Gary
> 
> S/V Moon Shadow
> 
> Fort Pierce Florida
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
>> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> 
>> Chris & Alice
>> Enosis
>> 
>> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
>> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>> 
>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Gary Novotny
> 7309 S Indian River Drive
> Fort Pierce Florida 34982
> 772-4660956 home
> 772-9715753 cell
> gjnovotny at comcast.net
> 
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> 
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:20:43 -0400
From: Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <99399258-46c5-77e2-d937-ccdb13217995 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Chris and Alice,

By all means I'd love to meet up and have a beer. I'll be in the area 
all month in November give me a call or text me when its convenient for you.

Regards,

Gary

772-4660956 home
772-9715753 cell


On 9/21/2018 1:23 AM, Chris wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>              Yes the experience was like hitting your funny bone. Actually not a holiday as such, just the last weekend before school started. The week long holiday on the 15 of August is twice as crazy. If you are around, we should get together for a beer in November   We keep Enosis II at Riverside Marina on the hard.
>
> Chris G
> ENOSIS
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.  Wise decision to move on.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> S/V Moon Shadow
>>
>> Fort Pierce Florida
>>
>>
>>> On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
>>> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris & Alice
>>> Enosis
>>>
>>> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
>>> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>> -- 
>> Gary Novotny
>> 7309 S Indian River Drive
>> Fort Pierce Florida 34982
>> 772-4660956 home
>> 772-9715753 cell
>> gjnovotny at comcast.net
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>
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>> __________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________
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-- 
Gary Novotny
7309 S Indian River Drive
Fort Pierce Florida 34982
772-4660956 home
772-9715753 cell
gjnovotny at comcast.net



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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:00:33 +0200
From: Chris <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 09-08 thru 09-11, Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <F0E2218C-93B2-4D22-B1C0-C00BDF6A6604 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Hey Gary,
Looking forward to it. Just had the customs guy put on the custom seals. All is right in this corner of the world. 

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 12:20 AM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Chris and Alice,
> 
> By all means I'd love to meet up and have a beer. I'll be in the area all month in November give me a call or text me when its convenient for you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gary
> 
> 772-4660956 home
> 772-9715753 cell
> 
> 
>> On 9/21/2018 1:23 AM, Chris wrote:
>> Hi Gary,
>>             Yes the experience was like hitting your funny bone. Actually not a holiday as such, just the last weekend before school started. The week long holiday on the 15 of August is twice as crazy. If you are around, we should get together for a beer in November   We keep Enosis II at Riverside Marina on the hard.
>> 
>> Chris G
>> ENOSIS
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Gary Novotny <gjnovotny at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> I feel your and Alice's pain as I watched the video, it was never the less quite amusing. Was this a national holiday? It reminded me of boating in busy area's of Florida on the Fourth of July. The Holidays tend to bring out the least experienced and least knowledgeable boaters. A Canadian friend of mine mentioned to me recently that he avoided boating around Victoria on Canada Day for the same reason.  Wise decision to move on.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> S/V Moon Shadow
>>> 
>>> Fort Pierce Florida
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9/20/2018 1:20 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>>>> Well, this is the penultimate journal.  It seems like yesterday that we
>>>> started this trip, not 3 months ago.  I hope you enjoy this piece.
>>>> 
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ch3C1pzd5gmNFllJd_atTvB8SRVxLdPH/view?usp=sharing
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>> Enosis
>>>> 
>>>> P.S.  We are in an Airbnb so I have the time and connections to finish this
>>>> journal.  I think I will send the last one shortly.
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>> 
>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Gary Novotny
>>> 7309 S Indian River Drive
>>> Fort Pierce Florida 34982
>>> 772-4660956 home
>>> 772-9715753 cell
>>> gjnovotny at comcast.net
>>> 
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>> 
>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>> __________________________________________________
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>> 
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>> __________________________________________________
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Gary Novotny
> 7309 S Indian River Drive
> Fort Pierce Florida 34982
> 772-4660956 home
> 772-9715753 cell
> gjnovotny at comcast.net
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> 
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: <daysails at aol.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med
	09-12 thru 19
Message-ID: <430738061.735308.1537615896725 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hey Chris and Alice,
It truly has been a ride to remember!? I admire your courage and commitment to follow your dream and take us with you.? You write with a very engaging style. I enjoyed the history and appreciate the effort you made to include maps and pictures ? The pictures of "our" Rhodes in exotic settings stirs the arm chair adventurer in me.? How wonderful to be able to sail into your past, fifty years ago on a boat of the same age!? Kudos to you two.? You have a place right beside Slocum in my sailing library.? I think Slocum had less of a bureaucratic paper trial on his journeys.? Looking forward to reading about your next Rhodes 22 sailing adventure!? Thanks again for sharing with da list.? Joe Riley? S/V Second Wind, Big Water Marina, Lake Hartwell, South Carolina

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2018 1:26 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19

So the End has come.? This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.? I'll try to
have it ready before the boat show.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
S/V ENOSIS
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 20:19:34 +0200
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: daysails at aol.com, The Rhodes 22 Email List
	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal,	Rhodes in the Med
	09-12 thru 19
Message-ID:
	<CADNTwiU7CfKyJRFgnXpDnpYfoNMNHg=W1XQdTDms3wR+QJx6=w at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hey Joe,
            Slocum!  He was my 2nd inspiration, I think Huck Finn was my
first!  Slocum, gee, you know, I thought about scattering tacks on the deck
to ward off the natives, and hoping to hear some "un Christian-like oaths"
but they all wear Nikes or Adidas.  We so enjoyed the adventure, sharing
it, and the feedback from all of you guys on Da List.  We are sitting in
the lap of luxury in an Airbnb which is the whole villa but has 3 other
bedrooms.  And we, are the only ones here, all for 43 euros a night.  I
still find my self sleeping on only the first 20 inches of the king size
bed and wanting to pee in a bottle,  When it started raining in the middle
of the night, I sat bolt upright and tried to find the hatch to close, and
check on the anchor.  It may take a while to get used to this stable land
thing.  Anyway, glad you enjoyed this leg of the voyage.  Next year it will
be exactly 50 years that I will have left the island of Ischia and headed
south.  We are looking forward to that adventure too.

Chris & Alice
ENOSIS I

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 1:31 PM Sling via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hey Chris and Alice,
> It truly has been a ride to remember!  I admire your courage and
> commitment to follow your dream and take us with you.  You write with a
> very engaging style. I enjoyed the history and appreciate the effort you
> made to include maps and pictures   The pictures of "our" Rhodes in exotic
> settings stirs the arm chair adventurer in me.  How wonderful to be able to
> sail into your past, fifty years ago on a boat of the same age!  Kudos to
> you two.  You have a place right beside Slocum in my sailing library.  I
> think Slocum had less of a bureaucratic paper trial on his journeys.
> Looking forward to reading about your next Rhodes 22 sailing adventure!
> Thanks again for sharing with da list.  Joe Riley  S/V Second Wind, Big
> Water Marina, Lake Hartwell, South Carolina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2018 1:26 pm
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal, Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
>
> So the End has come.  This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
> going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
> I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
> some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.  I'll try to
> have it ready before the boat show.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing
>
> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> S/V ENOSIS
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From oehecht at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 11:24:23 2018
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:24:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
Message-ID: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>

And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
through it.

I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed to
come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly where
it came from or an obvious place for it.

I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like a
stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.

Olivier
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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 11:56:12 2018
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:56:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <352B5AEF-24D3-4159-90A1-7B9DF1D435E3@verizon.net>

Oliver,
At first glance/going from memory, it looks like the stop the mast's furling tube bushing rides against. It?s tapped into the internal part of the whole block assembly that the boom attaches to. How both screws backed out is a mystery, unless the tore out with some other force from the furling tube? for me, it?s been a couple years since that was removed, so I?m sure others can add more detail. 

Jay Friedland
S/V Wanderlust ?97

 


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
> through it.
> 
> I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed to
> come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly where
> it came from or an obvious place for it.
> 
> I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like a
> stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
> see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
> 
> Olivier
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From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 23 12:09:20 2018
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <352B5AEF-24D3-4159-90A1-7B9DF1D435E3@verizon.net>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>,
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Message-ID: <DM5PR18MB1212F3C1DD0388BA3BE043A2D9100@DM5PR18MB1212.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

I think Jay is right. 

Sent from my iPhone

Charles Nieman


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oliver,
> At first glance/going from memory, it looks like the stop the mast's furling tube bushing rides against. It?s tapped into the internal part of the whole block assembly that the boom attaches to. How both screws backed out is a mystery, unless the tore out with some other force from the furling tube? for me, it?s been a couple years since that was removed, so I?m sure others can add more detail. 
> 
> Jay Friedland
> S/V Wanderlust ?97
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
>> through it.
>> 
>> I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed to
>> come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly where
>> it came from or an obvious place for it.
>> 
>> I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like a
>> stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
>> see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
>> 
>> Olivier
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From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 12:12:01 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:12:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] DSCN6398.JPG
Message-ID: <5ba7bb61.1c69fb81.9c546.1ea4@mx.google.com>



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From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 12:12:51 2018
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:12:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
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References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
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Olivier, see if this makes sense.

Cary

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oliver,
> At first glance/going from memory, it looks like the stop the mast's
> furling tube bushing rides against. It?s tapped into the internal part of
> the whole block assembly that the boom attaches to. How both screws backed
> out is a mystery, unless the tore out with some other force from the
> furling tube? for me, it?s been a couple years since that was removed, so
> I?m sure others can add more detail.
>
> Jay Friedland
> S/V Wanderlust ?97
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
> > through it.
> >
> > I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed
> to
> > come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly
> where
> > it came from or an obvious place for it.
> >
> > I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like
> a
> > stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
> > see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
> >
> > Olivier
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From oehecht at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 13:30:22 2018
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:30:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <352B5AEF-24D3-4159-90A1-7B9DF1D435E3@verizon.net>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <352B5AEF-24D3-4159-90A1-7B9DF1D435E3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAGUHJmQ1adbNh4QT+dsvrMOd3H3EdsCb3Vq288uOt3MKOGhhZA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jay.  Based on your memory, what impact do you think it not being
installed will cause?  Does it stop the entire furling tube (and sail) from
lowering too fall when lowered (which I don't do too often), or does it
somehow stop the unfurling or furling of the sail?  If it's the latter, I
didn't notice any issues furling or unfurling yesterday and I was watching
for issues after seeing the part fall out.  Thanks again.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oliver,
> At first glance/going from memory, it looks like the stop the mast's
> furling tube bushing rides against. It?s tapped into the internal part of
> the whole block assembly that the boom attaches to. How both screws backed
> out is a mystery, unless the tore out with some other force from the
> furling tube? for me, it?s been a couple years since that was removed, so
> I?m sure others can add more detail.
>
> Jay Friedland
> S/V Wanderlust ?97
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
> > through it.
> >
> > I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed
> to
> > come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly
> where
> > it came from or an obvious place for it.
> >
> > I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like
> a
> > stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
> > see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
> >
> > Olivier
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From Djbaines05 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 13:44:14 2018
From: Djbaines05 at gmail.com (DJBaines)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:44:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <009601d45043$34de6cd0$9e9b4670$@comcast.net>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw@mail.gmail.com>
 <012501d45025$530251e0$f906f5a0$@ca>
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Message-ID: <1537724654603-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/04AF45E0-5EEE-4FDE-BC90-6BB1C762517B.jpeg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/32CDFFC7-7A32-4F05-A600-603C511B0A0A.jpeg> 

Well, I was able to cut into the deck and get the wet wood out (although I?m
sure it?s travelled to other parts of the deck) and cleaned it up. See the
attached photos. I let it dry out yesterday then covered it. Planning to
begin fiberglassing the area. However, I?m concerned about whether it will
be able to support the mast again as I didn?t remove all of the wood. If
it?s structurally weakened then after I make the repairs, I?ll likely have
the same deck cracking problem pictured in the first post. Once the wood was
in the sun for the afternoon it appeared to be ok. Unless I hear otherwise,
I?ll just apply layers of fiberglass and not plywood. Is this the prudent
plan?

Thanks,
DJ Baines



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From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 13:47:43 2018
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:47:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <CAGUHJmQ1adbNh4QT+dsvrMOd3H3EdsCb3Vq288uOt3MKOGhhZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <352B5AEF-24D3-4159-90A1-7B9DF1D435E3@verizon.net>
 <CAGUHJmQ1adbNh4QT+dsvrMOd3H3EdsCb3Vq288uOt3MKOGhhZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8EF682C-BC42-438B-BB22-1CF78AC3287B@gmail.com>

No news here is not good news.

Mine had significant wear from the rotation of the furling tube, as we use our boat hard and often. Not sure what your tube is resting on without it, but in Stan?s world (after some 30+ yrs with 2 different R22s), Stan uses what?s absolutely necessary/efficient for the particular function, no extra parts, no accidental backup or secondary support. So I doubt that something else isn?t happening or deteriorating only to be discovered later, most often under sail. Short term you maybe ok, long term not so good.

J


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jay.  Based on your memory, what impact do you think it not being
> installed will cause?  Does it stop the entire furling tube (and sail) from
> lowering too fall when lowered (which I don't do too often), or does it
> somehow stop the unfurling or furling of the sail?  If it's the latter, I
> didn't notice any issues furling or unfurling yesterday and I was watching
> for issues after seeing the part fall out.  Thanks again.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oliver,
>> At first glance/going from memory, it looks like the stop the mast's
>> furling tube bushing rides against. It?s tapped into the internal part of
>> the whole block assembly that the boom attaches to. How both screws backed
>> out is a mystery, unless the tore out with some other force from the
>> furling tube? for me, it?s been a couple years since that was removed, so
>> I?m sure others can add more detail.
>> 
>> Jay Friedland
>> S/V Wanderlust ?97
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
>>> through it.
>>> 
>>> I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed
>> to
>>> come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly
>> where
>>> it came from or an obvious place for it.
>>> 
>>> I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like
>> a
>>> stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
>>> see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
>>> 
>>> Olivier
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Sun Sep 23 16:56:47 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:56:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <274a49d6-ff09-1258-4009-fd7816dae8dc@atlanticbb.net>

Sorry to be late to the party. We were out cruising around. ;-)

It's the bottom stop for the fuler attached to the In-Mast Furler/boom 
attachment block. The part that raises and lowers the furling tube with 
the boom attached. I think the disk at the bottom of the furling tube 
rests and spins on it.

Here are some photos of the furling assembly disassembled. You can see 
how it screws into the block. We think the holes for the screws were 
just tapped into the block so it probably just vibrated loose, probably 
enlarging the screw holes in the back of the block as it did.

Mary Lou
ex R22
now Rosborough RF-246

On 9/23/2018 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
> through it.
>
> I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed to
> come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly where
> it came from or an obvious place for it.
>
> I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like a
> stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
> see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
>
> Olivier
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Mon Sep 24 09:55:53 2018
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:55:53 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
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References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAJCVun19BADdf-naBF+Q4tbLyR6fPcBMRgcdSn0yz0ZkW957Vw@mail.gmail.com>
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DJ,
How about the support from under the deck?  Is there a support post that transfers the mast load to the stringers?   The deck itself is not sufficient to support the mast. - rob


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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of DJBaines
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:44 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/04AF45E0-5EEE-4FDE-BC90-6BB1C762517B.jpeg>
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/32CDFFC7-7A32-4F05-A600-603C511B0A0A.jpeg> 

Well, I was able to cut into the deck and get the wet wood out (although I?m sure it?s travelled to other parts of the deck) and cleaned it up. See the attached photos. I let it dry out yesterday then covered it. Planning to begin fiberglassing the area. However, I?m concerned about whether it will be able to support the mast again as I didn?t remove all of the wood. If it?s structurally weakened then after I make the repairs, I?ll likely have the same deck cracking problem pictured in the first post. Once the wood was in the sun for the afternoon it appeared to be ok. Unless I hear otherwise, I?ll just apply layers of fiberglass and not plywood. Is this the prudent plan?

Thanks,
DJ Baines



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From oehecht at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 10:05:04 2018
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:05:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <274a49d6-ff09-1258-4009-fd7816dae8dc@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <274a49d6-ff09-1258-4009-fd7816dae8dc@atlanticbb.net>
Message-ID: <CAGUHJmQ49U6WZ1Hm6RpU5PavMFzG-qTB8C9kNm9GrMXBGujDeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mary Lou and Jay. That picture and description helps a lot. I?ll
have to see if I can get that larger block with the quick releases away
from the mast to reinstall the block or if this is finally the reason I
will have to lower the mast after 3 seasons!

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Sorry to be late to the party. We were out cruising around. ;-)
>
> It's the bottom stop for the fuler attached to the In-Mast Furler/boom
> attachment block. The part that raises and lowers the furling tube with
> the boom attached. I think the disk at the bottom of the furling tube
> rests and spins on it.
>
> Here are some photos of the furling assembly disassembled. You can see
> how it screws into the block. We think the holes for the screws were
> just tapped into the block so it probably just vibrated loose, probably
> enlarging the screw holes in the back of the block as it did.
>
> Mary Lou
> ex R22
> now Rosborough RF-246
>
> On 9/23/2018 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> > And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
> > through it.
> >
> > I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed
> to
> > come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly
> where
> > it came from or an obvious place for it.
> >
> > I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like
> a
> > stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
> > see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
> >
> > Olivier
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon Sep 24 12:04:15 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:04:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
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References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <274a49d6-ff09-1258-4009-fd7816dae8dc@atlanticbb.net>
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Message-ID: <027bad2f-e4a1-978c-fdda-fc45c126bc9c@atlanticbb.net>

This is from memory, but I believe the exterior sliding block is 
attached to at least one and maybe both of the two rings that the 
furling tube passes through.

My thought would be to lower the mast and check out the assembly as a 
whole. It's pretty simple - but it was assembled in 1998 or before. We 
did have one screw back out once - I believe it was where the boom 
gooseneck attaches. We rotated the the ring until we either found the 
hole or made a new hole (I forget, it was a long time ago) and screwed 
it back in.

I'd be worried about what the tube is resting on now.

Best of luck with the repair.

Mary Lou



On 9/24/2018 10:05 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> Thanks Mary Lou and Jay. That picture and description helps a lot. I?ll
> have to see if I can get that larger block with the quick releases away
> from the mast to reinstall the block or if this is finally the reason I
> will have to lower the mast after 3 seasons!
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
>> Sorry to be late to the party. We were out cruising around. ;-)
>>
>> It's the bottom stop for the fuler attached to the In-Mast Furler/boom
>> attachment block. The part that raises and lowers the furling tube with
>> the boom attached. I think the disk at the bottom of the furling tube
>> rests and spins on it.
>>
>> Here are some photos of the furling assembly disassembled. You can see
>> how it screws into the block. We think the holes for the screws were
>> just tapped into the block so it probably just vibrated loose, probably
>> enlarging the screw holes in the back of the block as it did.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> ex R22
>> now Rosborough RF-246
>>
>> On 9/23/2018 11:24 AM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>>> And where it goes?  It?s a plastic block about 1?x2? with two long screws
>>> through it.
>>>
>>> I was raising the pop top yesterday and this fell to the deck. It seemed
>> to
>>> come right from the mast/boom/gooseneck area but I didn?t see exactly
>> where
>>> it came from or an obvious place for it.
>>>
>>> I did not notice any effects while sailing for four hours. It looks like
>> a
>>> stop of some sort, maybe when the sail is lowered in the mast?  I didn?t
>>> see any mounting holes when I looked in the mast, though.
>>>
>>> Olivier
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Sep 24 12:28:07 2018
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:28:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <027bad2f-e4a1-978c-fdda-fc45c126bc9c@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <274a49d6-ff09-1258-4009-fd7816dae8dc@atlanticbb.net>
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I?m with Mary Lou in wondering what?s keeping the tube in place.  You can see some details of what my IMF assembly looks like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH7hYJnoNpM&t=203s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH7hYJnoNpM&t=203s> .  The usual caveats about no no two Rhodes being identical apply.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


> On Sep 24, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> 
> This is from memory, but I believe the exterior sliding block is attached to at least one and maybe both of the two rings that the furling tube passes through.
> 
> My thought would be to lower the mast and check out the assembly as a whole. It's pretty simple - but it was assembled in 1998 or before. We did have one screw back out once - I believe it was where the boom gooseneck attaches. We rotated the the ring until we either found the hole or made a new hole (I forget, it was a long time ago) and screwed it back in.
> 
> I'd be worried about what the tube is resting on now.
> 
> Best of luck with the repair.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> 


From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon Sep 24 14:43:09 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:43:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone know what this part is?
In-Reply-To: <C923DD33-98EA-4872-8E3B-E640BE94A014@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <CAGUHJmQoE5DPn94n0hyvzk46vSc=xTmniAofDdviDYtpVCrrXg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <97802a81-a050-ef99-ed41-cd2926c39a3c@atlanticbb.net>

Nice video. We should be archiving these pictures and the video 
somewhere in addition to the email list which is sometimes hard to search.

Your assembly is obviously a little newer than the one on Olivier's 
Fretless but it's very much the same. The big difference is that the 
bottom stop is held in place with a screw from the front rather than the 
two from the back. (And you have an extra little block on a spring - not 
sure of it's function.)

In the interest of making them available in this thread on the assembly, 
I took the liberty of taking two stills from the video - one of the 
front of the plate and one from the side. I've attached them here in the 
interest of adding value to the thread.

Mary Lou


On 9/24/2018 12:28 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> I?m with Mary Lou in wondering what?s keeping the tube in place.  You can see some details of what my IMF assembly looks like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH7hYJnoNpM&t=203s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH7hYJnoNpM&t=203s> .  The usual caveats about no no two Rhodes being identical apply.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>
>> This is from memory, but I believe the exterior sliding block is attached to at least one and maybe both of the two rings that the furling tube passes through.
>>
>> My thought would be to lower the mast and check out the assembly as a whole. It's pretty simple - but it was assembled in 1998 or before. We did have one screw back out once - I believe it was where the boom gooseneck attaches. We rotated the the ring until we either found the hole or made a new hole (I forget, it was a long time ago) and screwed it back in.
>>
>> I'd be worried about what the tube is resting on now.
>>
>> Best of luck with the repair.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>>
>>
>>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 15:31:25 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:31:25 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <1537724654603-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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I would also suggest using "git rot" or an equivalent product and flood the
adjacent wood.  I've used the product on wooden boat applications and it
worked well.  Just sayin".
Chris G
Enosis

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:44 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/04AF45E0-5EEE-4FDE-BC90-6BB1C762517B.jpeg>
>
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/32CDFFC7-7A32-4F05-A600-603C511B0A0A.jpeg>
>
>
> Well, I was able to cut into the deck and get the wet wood out (although
> I?m
> sure it?s travelled to other parts of the deck) and cleaned it up. See the
> attached photos. I let it dry out yesterday then covered it. Planning to
> begin fiberglassing the area. However, I?m concerned about whether it will
> be able to support the mast again as I didn?t remove all of the wood. If
> it?s structurally weakened then after I make the repairs, I?ll likely have
> the same deck cracking problem pictured in the first post. Once the wood
> was
> in the sun for the afternoon it appeared to be ok. Unless I hear otherwise,
> I?ll just apply layers of fiberglass and not plywood. Is this the prudent
> plan?
>
> Thanks,
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
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From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 16:03:43 2018
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:03:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36YaAMSMwEprYh=vzN=0A6ZNnCaEcoAKG=a-0fWbjsM0UA@mail.gmail.com>

DJ,

My '93 boat was made using about a foot square solid wood plate under the
mast step.  The plate was glued on three edges to the plywood bow deck
core.  This isolated the plate from the core, preventing dry rot from
spreading from the plate into the core.

Access to the area under the mast step is best from below by pulling down
the cabin liner.  If you have a plate, you can cut it out and replace it.
If you don't then you can cut out the core and make a plate to fit.

It is not a good idea to repair the wood directly supporting the mast step
with epoxy because the mast step screws need to pull out easily during a
mishap.

Regards,

Rick


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
> deck
> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
> advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Sep 24 16:50:48 2018
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:50:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36YaAMSMwEprYh=vzN=0A6ZNnCaEcoAKG=a-0fWbjsM0UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36YaAMSMwEprYh=vzN=0A6ZNnCaEcoAKG=a-0fWbjsM0UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01d45448$461f6c70$d25e4550$@ca>

I would not expect that the wood would dry out in a day - or even a week for
that matter if it was soaked through. If possible I would try to remove as
much of the wet wood as feasible and then ensure that what remains is
absolutely dry throughout. I would then inject epoxy into any wood that is
suspect. Otherwise you might just be sealing in the moisture where it will
continue to damage the core. I don't think there are any safe shortcuts to
repair core damage.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Rick Lange
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:04 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression

DJ,

My '93 boat was made using about a foot square solid wood plate under the
mast step.  The plate was glued on three edges to the plywood bow deck
core.  This isolated the plate from the core, preventing dry rot from
spreading from the plate into the core.

Access to the area under the mast step is best from below by pulling down
the cabin liner.  If you have a plate, you can cut it out and replace it.
If you don't then you can cut out the core and make a plate to fit.

It is not a good idea to repair the wood directly supporting the mast step
with epoxy because the mast step screws need to pull out easily during a
mishap.

Regards,

Rick


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>
> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
> deck
> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
> advice is appreciated.
>
> DJ Baines
>
>
>
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From stan at rhodes22.com  Mon Sep 24 19:55:12 2018
From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
In-Reply-To: <001f01d45448$461f6c70$d25e4550$@ca>
References: <1537313201032-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36YaAMSMwEprYh=vzN=0A6ZNnCaEcoAKG=a-0fWbjsM0UA@mail.gmail.com>
 <001f01d45448$461f6c70$d25e4550$@ca>
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We the people (at the factory) repair soft deck older boats built for us 
by others, by cutting out around the non skid port and starboard deck 
patterns, lifting these fiberglass sections off the deck and then 
removing the wood and inserting the plastic cores we use on our boats. 
Then the glass deck sections are reinstalled.? For soft cabin tops on 
older boats, should you have the double top hatches, temporarily 
removing both can offer access for core repairs.? If you do not have 
these two cabin top hatches, a soft cabin top gives you a good excuse to 
add them.

ss

On 9/24/18 4:50 PM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> I would not expect that the wood would dry out in a day - or even a week for
> that matter if it was soaked through. If possible I would try to remove as
> much of the wet wood as feasible and then ensure that what remains is
> absolutely dry throughout. I would then inject epoxy into any wood that is
> suspect. Otherwise you might just be sealing in the moisture where it will
> continue to damage the core. I don't think there are any safe shortcuts to
> repair core damage.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Rick Lange
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:04 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Stay and Deck Compression
>
> DJ,
>
> My '93 boat was made using about a foot square solid wood plate under the
> mast step.  The plate was glued on three edges to the plywood bow deck
> core.  This isolated the plate from the core, preventing dry rot from
> spreading from the plate into the core.
>
> Access to the area under the mast step is best from below by pulling down
> the cabin liner.  If you have a plate, you can cut it out and replace it.
> If you don't then you can cut out the core and make a plate to fit.
>
> It is not a good idea to repair the wood directly supporting the mast step
> with epoxy because the mast step screws need to pull out easily during a
> mishap.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM DJBaines <Djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t891/IMG_0221.jpg>
>>
>> I have a 1983 Rhodes 22 and have encountered cracking at the base of the
>> mast. See the attached photo. My best guess is that the wood underneath is
>> likely wet and rotten and was no longer able to hold the weight and the
>> deck
>> couldn't stand the weight and cracked. I imagine that I'll cut out the
>> damaged area and repair with fiberglass and epoxy then screw in the mast
>> stay screws. Anyone else experience this problem? Do I have the right plan
>> to repair? I took the mast down last weekend and want to get it back in
>> shape quickly as this is typically a great time to sail in Annapolis. Any
>> advice is appreciated.
>>
>> DJ Baines
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon Sep 24 22:20:34 2018
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:20:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal,
 Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiU_H8rpNDR=KHzPyjg8VPQ3SZnFO42HNCyqmKJmrzJOgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiU_H8rpNDR=KHzPyjg8VPQ3SZnFO42HNCyqmKJmrzJOgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d8ac6a01-25db-4cff-5a71-506c6e527e91@atlanticbb.net>

Chris,

Thank you so much for taking us along on your journey. Loved your 
descriptions and your gorgeous photos.

I think I delayed reading this last installment because I didn't want 
the trip to end.

Thanks again and safe travels.

Mary Lou


On 9/20/2018 1:26 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> So the End has come.  This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
> going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
> I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
> some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.  I'll try to
> have it ready before the boat show.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing
>
> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> S/V ENOSIS
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Sep 25 07:03:50 2018
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last trip Journal,
	Rhodes in the Med 09-12 thru 19
In-Reply-To: <d8ac6a01-25db-4cff-5a71-506c6e527e91@atlanticbb.net>
References: <CADNTwiU_H8rpNDR=KHzPyjg8VPQ3SZnFO42HNCyqmKJmrzJOgQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6A2B815C-F8B9-4701-90B7-C5BFBFB7B3DC@gmail.com>

Thank You Mary Lou, 
It has been fun to share the trip with everyone. We appreciate all the positive feedback. Good news is we shall continue the voyage next year. 

Chris & Alice
ENOSIS 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Thank you so much for taking us along on your journey. Loved your descriptions and your gorgeous photos.
> 
> I think I delayed reading this last installment because I didn't want the trip to end.
> 
> Thanks again and safe travels.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2018 1:26 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>> So the End has come.  This is the last week of the trip, not a lot of stuff
>> going on as far as sailing but a lot of prep and last minute things to do.
>> I will probably do one more related report on the experience in general and
>> some notes on storage and long distance sailing in general.  I'll try to
>> have it ready before the boat show.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mJBypS_XKk3cASdz2oJosq_WoszBU6E/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
>> S/V ENOSIS
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