[Rhodes22-list] Floor Board Removal and Repair

Tue Apr 16 09:41:56 EDT 2019

My ’77 Rhodes (22) Continental’s bilge remained dry on the two occasions when the lazarette filled with rain water (from clogged seat drains), and tipped the boat and trailer stern down, bow in the air. If it had flowed into the bilge, the boat would not have tipped, and would have filled up.
Just my experience with my boat.
Sam Moore, ’77 RC, Rhodester

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, stan spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
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> Graham,  We all know you built your 1976, I was too young then.  I can turn your question around.  Why have water accumulate in two places instead of just one?  Besides, with water that may get into the lazarette, running down hill to the bilge, the lazarette is sort of self-bailing.  Break that seal.
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> Sorry.  Gotta bail out the April showers from the next boat leaving, so have to leave this thread.
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> On 4/15/19 10:53 PM, Graham Stewart wrote:
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> My 1976 has the lazerette completely sealed from the bilge as well. I thought that was the design. I could fix that but what is the reason to have water in the Lazerette drain into the bilge?
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> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
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> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Floor Board Removal and Repair
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> Stan,
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> I realize my 1976 Rhodes was probably built for General Boats by a subcontractor.  But, I’m curious how the lazarette and bilge are connected.  My boat has a solid wood bulkhead that’s glassed into the underside of the cockpit sole and the boat’s hull at the forward end of the lazarette.  It looks like something from the factory.  I’ve owned the boat since 1987 and I’ve certainly never put anything like that in there.  With that bulkhead there, where is the connection with the bilge?
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> Having said that, I have to admit I’ve never actually tried filling the lazarette with water to see if it shows up in the bilge.  In the nearly 32 years I’ve owned the boat, I’ve always pumped out the lazarette and bilge separately.
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> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:33 PM, stan spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com <mailto:stan at rhodes22.com>><mailto:stan at rhodes22.com <mailto:stan at rhodes22.com>> wrote:
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> OK, I have 2 minutes, my wonderful new TX Rhodie having just left for his big trek home.
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> Please don't toss around 'no Rhodes are built the same', lightly.  True if your boat was built for us and not by us; truer if you boat was bought from a private seller whose creativity turns out not to work.
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> The lazaret was always designed for water that might get into it, to make its way to the bilge. If water stays in the lazaret that is someone else's re-design.
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> If you have a diamondboard keel system, There is no pin going through the keel, its single control line uses no hardware, its neoprene reusable gasket should not be used with any sealant, and its fastening system uses machine screws, lock nuts and fender washers.  No torquing instruments needed. Simply tighten to the point that the gasket just starts to move.  All GB fastening elements are stainless steel so when one of you writes about changing rusted parts you are not writing about a GB installation.
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> Nor are sealants used for deck hardware.  O ring gaskets are.
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> Water gets in all boats.  Note the water coming out of the hull sides of the big boys.  Their bilge pumps are working a good deal of their time.  We are against bilge pumps for the Rhodes.
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> Water accumulates:
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> From condensation:  Least so on a Rhodes with its insulating head liner and more ventilation than others: Slightly boosted down pop top, cabin top hatches, bow air scoop fixture.  Trick: A large sponge in the bilge.  Visit it routinely and keep water in the bilge to a minimum.
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> Below the water line: Not your problem.  Boats sold by GB with a new boat guarantee do not leak below the water line.
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> Above the water line:  Blame the rain.  Mostly all fixable, permanently.  The two upper shroud chain plates are the only exceptions in that they require the lifting of their chain plate covers for resealing and are not suitable for O ring salvation.
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> There are Rhodes owners who tell us their boats are always bone dry. A mistake on our part.  If we build a boat that does not have a single leak, we keep it.
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> On 4/15/19 3:12 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
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> From my exhaustive reading of the list archives, I can answer the question about whether or not the lazarette is connected to the main cabin bilge.  As with many construction details of the Rhodes 22, the answer is ‘it depends’.  Some owners report that they are separate, some report that they are connected. The only way to tell for sure is to test your boat.
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> —Peter
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> On Apr 15, 2019, at 1:42 PM, JP Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net>><mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net>><mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net>><mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net>> wrote:
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> Roger, The more I think about it and reading your last post, I like the idea
> of using RTV on the CB. I do plan to inspect the entire CB system--blocks,
> pinion, gasket, etc. Any recommendation on torque settings for the cap
> bolts? I plan to paint the bilge as well. Also do you know if the bilge is
> continuous to the lazarette or is that compartment separate?  Thanks for
> your input.
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> JP Dempsey
> s/v Respite
> Rhodes 22 1989/2005
> Marshall,VA
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