[Rhodes22-list] Spring Lines

Lowe, Rob rlowe at vt.edu
Thu Apr 23 10:16:07 EDT 2020


I must say I read that wrong.  Even though I responded bow eye, I was thinking bow cleat.  I agree with Graham's method using two lines running through the chocks to the bow cleat.  - rob

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I agree fully with your recommendation, Graham. The bow eye is not suitable for the shock loads of mooring.  Art CzerwonkyMaryJane, Atlanta
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  On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:44 AM, Graham Stewart<gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:   Personally I prefer to not use the bow eye for mooring. For one thing it is difficult to reach the bow eye if you have old knees. I prefer to rune two nylon lines from the mooring through the chocks and to the bow cleat. It is much easier to attach and release and gives you two lines instead of one. I have no doubt that either the eye or the cleat is plenty strong. Whichever you use do not connect the boat to the mooring with chain.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




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I can't speak for Stan, but I've never heard of a bow eye on the Rhodes giving way.  Still doesn't mean it can't happen.  I'd inspect the backing plate up in the V berth next time you can and see if it's snug and looks adequate.  - rob

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I went with a mooring this year.  Stan do you think the bow eye alone can hold? A noreaster is rolling into my anchorage tonight!
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> On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Sean Allen <seanallen1206 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jay (and all) as this has been really helpful.
>
> I've got 6 pilings in my slip. I was thinking of using two 3/8" bow lines
> around each piling with snubbers both connected to the bow cleat, then two
> 3/8" stern lines with snubbers each connected from the piling to each stern
> cleat, and I think i might put spring cleats in approximately mid-ship by
> the windows and run a 1/2" spring line with snubbers on each side (using
> the grab rails temporarily).
>
>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:15 PM Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>> I should also add that the Tide-minders prevent any side movement in my
>> relatively narrow slip. On the spring lines, I use heavy-duty snubbers (for
>> up to 5/8” line) to give the boat some forward movement beyond the stretch
>> of the lines. With the occasional excessive tides, I use the midship cleat
>> adjustment along with the snubbers to keep the boat centered with tension,
>> not just the extreme stretch of the spring lines.
>> Jay
>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Jay Friedland <JayF401 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>> It all depends on the exposure to the elements. Mel & I are on the same
>> island but completely different factors to deal with. Mel is fairly
>> protected in a lagoon, so his lines are fine for that location. Wanderlust
>> is in a  narrow slip in a marina with a sea wall surrounding the boats. It
>> has 11’ of clearance, and exposed to high winds, some wave action and up to
>> 2-1/2’ of tidal change. While it’s not all visible in the attached photo
>> (if it’s not stripped away), is the following, using all 1/2” lines-
>>>
>>> 1) bow lines to pilings at a 90°
>>> 2) spring lines to adjustable midship cleats on 1” T-tracks, 30” of
>> movement
>>> 3) Tide-minders on each stern line
>>>
>>> I’ve been through over 12 seasons of squalls, glancing hurricanes,
>> excessive tides and only have to worry about other people’s boats. The
>> other advantage of midship cleats is the versatility of docking in many
>> situations. I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Jay Friedland
>>> S/v Wanderlust, ‘97
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Sean Allen <seanallen1206 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:seanallen1206 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm launching my boat in to a new slip in a few weeks and I'm curious if
>>>> and how other Rhodes owners use spring lines? Mine only has one bow
>> cleat
>>>> and two on the stern.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard of others using the grab rail on the bulk head mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone installed additional cleats? Is that advisable?
>>>>
>>>> The marina is in tidal waters (Barnegat Bay) with quite a bit of wake
>> on a
>>>> daily basis.
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>
>>
>>



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