From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Feb  1 13:18:37 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 13:18:37 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
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Mike, thanks for the figures and the photo.? Maybe I can chalk it up to 
old age but I am confused in that normally our jib stay had an eye 
fitting at its top where that fitting went inside a stay adjuster (like 
used at the bottom ends of the two back stays) for a one time adjustment 
to establish mast rake.? And at its bottom the jib stays had a fork 
fitting that directly connected to the bow chain plate.? (Possibly the 
prior owner along the way had the jib stay assembly replaced locally or 
my crew made the changes without telling me.)

Not that it matters in the sense that either approach will work. Two 
physical items do matter in duplicating your current stay:

If the fork end attached directly to the mast head fitting it should be 
able to accept a 1/4"? clevis pin as opposed to the holes in the stay's 
folk fitting end having smaller holes for smaller diameter pins.? Can 
you check this.? And second, I take it that the threaded end of the stay 
on your set up is going into the top end of a turnbuckle.? The issue 
here then becomes the direction of the thread on this threaded fixture 
end.? The only way I feel comfortable with that decision is to have the 
rest of the turnbuckle here since a stay with the wrong threaded end 
becomes useless and has to be throw away or, alternately, the current 
turnbuckle has to be replaced with a new one that matches the thread 
direction on the new stay.

You mention damage to the stay and I would assume that would be at one 
of the ends that goes into an end fitting.? These old eyes are not 
seeing which end is damaged.

Re the 130 genoa, deterioration of its top strap as been a problem that 
we brought up with Doyle but not sure they ever addressed it.? We will 
have to replace the sail and are thinking that maybe the strap area 
should be taped over after it is installed, to block the sun's UV rays.? 
After you get a replacement genoa from us we would like the damaged one 
so we can send it to Doyle.

Or, of course, we can give you a good trade in deal on a New Rhodes.

stan

On 1/28/20 6:47 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> I pulled the stay off the boat and measured it 4 times. The length worked
> out to be 26' 4".  I measured it from the tip of each fitting (fork on one
> end and threaded rod for turnbuckle on the other). I've attached a photo
> that shows both fittings on either end of the stay.
>
> The Genoa is a 130.
>
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 8:30 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
>> Sure, let's try that.
>>
>> Is the genoa a 130 or 175?
>>
>> stan
>>
>> On 1/24/20 1:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
>>> How about if I remove the stay and measure it and send you that
>>> measurement? That would seem to be somewhat accurate and the most
>>> expedient.
>>>
>>> The head of the Genoa is dry rotted (long term sun damage is my guess)
>> and
>>> the strap holding to the top of the mast broke. The result was the sail
>>> slid down the furler tube and jammed up against the furler. I couldn't
>> use
>>> the line to furl it and had to go forward and wrap it by hand. A short
>> term
>>> repair was applied by returning to the marina, lowering the mast,
>> punching
>>> a hole through the thickest part of the head and tying it back to the
>> mast
>>> with a short piece of 1/4" line. This allowed us to finish the trip, but
>>> hasn't held much past that.
>>>
>>> Michael Riter
>>> President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
>>> Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
>>> mike at traildesign.com
>>> 678-410-8021
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Feb  1 15:49:58 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 15:49:58 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
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Mike, OK, I have been corrected.? You have a damaged shroud, not 
forestay.? So all comments re the forestay are mute.

I understand it is an upper shroud.? We will still need to make one to 
match its turnbuckle threading so best we have that turnbuckle first.

stan



From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Feb  1 15:53:24 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 15:53:24 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
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and still would like to know if the damage to the shroud is at the top 
or bottom fitting - or elsewhere

stan

On 2/1/20 3:49 PM, stan wrote:
>
> Mike, OK, I have been corrected.? You have a damaged shroud, not 
> forestay.? So all comments re the forestay are mute.
>
> I understand it is an upper shroud.? We will still need to make one to 
> match its turnbuckle threading so best we have that turnbuckle first.
>
> stan
>
>


From joedempsey at hughes.net  Sat Feb  1 17:32:34 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 15:32:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Deck connector
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Connector for mast electrical cable is Sea Dog  "Polarized Electrical Outlet" 
4 conductor. SeaDog part#426234-1.



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
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From joedempsey at hughes.net  Sat Feb  1 17:33:22 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 15:33:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] parts website
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Rhodes22parts.com



-----
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s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
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From ews1esq at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  4 11:05:03 2020
From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (eric w. smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 16:05:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini top hardware
References: <762415603.286737.1580832303021.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <762415603.286737.1580832303021@mail.yahoo.com>

Folks,
I am planning on installing a bimini top on my Rhodes 22.? I have seen photos of bimini tops on Rhodes 22's that appear to use the 22mm CB track for the genoa (starboard and port) for mounting the bimini main posts.? I would like to give this a try, before permanently mounting deck hardware.
Is there a 22mm CB track truck or traveller car that anyone can recommend for this function?
Thanks!
Eric Smith?s/v Red Mistress

From snstaum at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 11:54:57 2020
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 11:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini top hardware
In-Reply-To: <762415603.286737.1580832303021@mail.yahoo.com>
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I got mine from Stan years ago so that may be the best source.  It works
fine but does limit the jib car movement forward.  I assume the hardware is
also available from Defender or any good sailboat supply store.


*Stephen Staum*
*s/v Carol Lee 2*

*Needham, MA*


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:05 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Folks,
> I am planning on installing a bimini top on my Rhodes 22.  I have seen
> photos of bimini tops on Rhodes 22's that appear to use the 22mm CB track
> for the genoa (starboard and port) for mounting the bimini main posts.  I
> would like to give this a try, before permanently mounting deck hardware.
> Is there a 22mm CB track truck or traveller car that anyone can recommend
> for this function?
> Thanks!
> Eric Smith s/v Red Mistress
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Tue Feb  4 12:06:59 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 12:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini top hardware
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjfJ7TxMKZAGVRmmpwLSXKGBUkz0RRD0OUV-ETHdxWPcJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <762415603.286737.1580832303021.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <762415603.286737.1580832303021@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAOo_FjfJ7TxMKZAGVRmmpwLSXKGBUkz0RRD0OUV-ETHdxWPcJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e8c015a0-a3b7-4760-60c0-744c41f254dc@generalboats.com>


Eric, GB does have such in-house made fittings available to ROC members.

stan

On 2/4/20 11:54 AM, Stephen Staum wrote:
> I got mine from Stan years ago so that may be the best source.  It works
> fine but does limit the jib car movement forward.  I assume the hardware is
> also available from Defender or any good sailboat supply store.
>
>
> *Stephen Staum*
> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>
> *Needham, MA*
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:05 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>> I am planning on installing a bimini top on my Rhodes 22.  I have seen
>> photos of bimini tops on Rhodes 22's that appear to use the 22mm CB track
>> for the genoa (starboard and port) for mounting the bimini main posts.  I
>> would like to give this a try, before permanently mounting deck hardware.
>> Is there a 22mm CB track truck or traveller car that anyone can recommend
>> for this function?
>> Thanks!
>> Eric Smith s/v Red Mistress
>>


From ews1esq at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  4 12:20:17 2020
From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 12:20:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini top hardware
References: <092F1871-5870-45A7-8756-783BD3FADF2B.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <092F1871-5870-45A7-8756-783BD3FADF2B@yahoo.com>

?Stan, I purchased  my 1995 ?recycled? Rhodes from GB in 2004 after a visit to Edenton. In 2016, my boat was fully renovated by GB. I assume that I am a GB member?  I would like to order the Bimini track hardware asap.  How much and when can it be delivered to Florida where I now live?  Eric Smith

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:07 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Eric, GB does have such in-house made fittings available to ROC members.
> 
> stan
> 
>>> On 2/4/20 11:54 AM, Stephen Staum wrote:
>> I got mine from Stan years ago so that may be the best source.  It works
>> fine but does limit the jib car movement forward.  I assume the hardware is
>> also available from Defender or any good sailboat supply store.
>> *Stephen Staum*
>> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>> *Needham, MA*
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:05 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> I am planning on installing a bimini top on my Rhodes 22.  I have seen
>>> photos of bimini tops on Rhodes 22's that appear to use the 22mm CB track
>>> for the genoa (starboard and port) for mounting the bimini main posts.  I
>>> would like to give this a try, before permanently mounting deck hardware.
>>> Is there a 22mm CB track truck or traveller car that anyone can recommend
>>> for this function?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Eric Smith s/v Red Mistress


From ews1esq at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  4 12:24:03 2020
From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 12:24:03 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini top hardware
In-Reply-To: <e8c015a0-a3b7-4760-60c0-744c41f254dc@generalboats.com>
References: <e8c015a0-a3b7-4760-60c0-744c41f254dc@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <32F7175C-9242-47FB-BCAE-EEC89593F495@yahoo.com>

Stan, not sure what an ROC member is?  I just want the right hardware for the Bimini. Eric Smith

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:07 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Eric, GB does have such in-house made fittings available to ROC members.
> 
> stan
> 
>> On 2/4/20 11:54 AM, Stephen Staum wrote:
>> I got mine from Stan years ago so that may be the best source.  It works
>> fine but does limit the jib car movement forward.  I assume the hardware is
>> also available from Defender or any good sailboat supply store.
>> 
>> 
>> *Stephen Staum*
>> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>> 
>> *Needham, MA*
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:05 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> I am planning on installing a bimini top on my Rhodes 22.  I have seen
>>> photos of bimini tops on Rhodes 22's that appear to use the 22mm CB track
>>> for the genoa (starboard and port) for mounting the bimini main posts.  I
>>> would like to give this a try, before permanently mounting deck hardware.
>>> Is there a 22mm CB track truck or traveller car that anyone can recommend
>>> for this function?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Eric Smith s/v Red Mistress
>>> 
> 


From stan at generalboats.com  Tue Feb  4 16:32:05 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 16:32:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini top hardware
In-Reply-To: <32F7175C-9242-47FB-BCAE-EEC89593F495@yahoo.com>
References: <e8c015a0-a3b7-4760-60c0-744c41f254dc@generalboats.com>
 <32F7175C-9242-47FB-BCAE-EEC89593F495@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1ce6a69c-28d7-5f96-195c-e5379250087b@generalboats.com>


Eric, a short review of what you apparently have been spared, up to now.

Most all of us involved, one way or another, with the Rhodes 22, would 
like to see it remain a boat in production, forever.

The Certificate of Support program was to be a small step in aiding that 
goal; results were modest which was unfair to those getting it.? It has 
now been superseded by the Rhodes Owners Cooperative (ROC). As a Rhodes 
buyer through GB, you are automatically a member.

ROC has more teeth in its functioning, than the C of S program had, to 
make it more of a force in keeping with the goal of the majority. At the 
same time ROC provides more benefits to its members then the C of S 
program did:
A Parts and Services web site that, while under construction, is kept 
published for ROC members use, as far as it has gotten.? (I see we will 
have to add the part you have an interest in.)
A used Rhodes Buyers and Sellers stand alone classified web site devoted 
exclusively for Rhodes 22 buyers and sellers.? Contact is direct between 
the parties for any additional questions and negotiations needed to 
close a deal.
A GB in-house financing division to supplement the effectiveness of the 
"Classified" site in making it possible for buyers to sail sooner or go 
for a higher end package. ? And for sellers to have a much broader, 
price-wise, market place.
An email questions answering service that the Rhodes List may not be 
tuned into accurately covering.
More to come.

Non ROC members (buyers of Rhodes via private sales), to be fair to 
members, are not beneficiaries of any ROC programs or services.? However 
anyone can become a Coop member, any time, under the terms in affect at 
that time.

The cost of a pair of sliding bimini cars that ride on genoa tracks is 
$80 with no S&H costs for wading through my long winded response to 
your, "what is ROC".

Stan
Home Office:? 825 Soundside Road?? Edenton? NC? 27932

On 2/4/20 12:24 PM, Eric Smith via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> Stan, not sure what an ROC member is?  I just want the right hardware for the Bimini. Eric Smith
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:07 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Eric, GB does have such in-house made fittings available to ROC members.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>> On 2/4/20 11:54 AM, Stephen Staum wrote:
>>> I got mine from Stan years ago so that may be the best source.  It works
>>> fine but does limit the jib car movement forward.  I assume the hardware is
>>> also available from Defender or any good sailboat supply store.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Stephen Staum*
>>> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>>>
>>> *Needham, MA*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:05 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>> I am planning on installing a bimini top on my Rhodes 22.  I have seen
>>>> photos of bimini tops on Rhodes 22's that appear to use the 22mm CB track
>>>> for the genoa (starboard and port) for mounting the bimini main posts.  I
>>>> would like to give this a try, before permanently mounting deck hardware.
>>>> Is there a 22mm CB track truck or traveller car that anyone can recommend
>>>> for this function?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Eric Smith s/v Red Mistress
>>>>
>


From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 20:27:00 2020
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 20:27:00 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrO9mvDFSs85TXeBUrMze1M78h-bsPX489SGQy+ikB6mD=aNQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to repeat my request to take a test sail on a Rhodes 22.

I"m in the process of moving to the Sarasota area and have become impressed
by how shallow the waters are around here. The Rhodes seems like an optimal
boat for this region and his high on my list of possibilities. I'm sure you
can understand (since I expect you've all gone through this) that I'd like
to have a hands on experience of what a Rhodes 22 really is. I've read as
much as I can about Rhodes 22 and how it compares to similar boats  but
this is not the same as sitting on the boat, feeling how it sails and what
its like to move around the boat.

So...is there anyone on the west coast of Florida (say from Fort Meyers to
Clearwater) that might be able to take me out for an hour or two sometime
in the next month or so?

Thanks in advance

--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor (now in the Sarasota area)
Cell: 410-499-8922


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi
> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
> one
> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
>
> --Reuben
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
> Cell: 410-499-8922
>

From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 20:56:06 2020
From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 20:56:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <CAHrO9mvDFSs85TXeBUrMze1M78h-bsPX489SGQy+ikB6mD=aNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8250BB49-9B5E-46CA-909C-D13D6ECCADEA@gmail.com>

Reuben,

I?m in Bradenton, but my boat is out of the water right now.

I?ll let you know as soon as I have back in so you can take a test sail.

Luis A. Guzm?n

S/V Aquexali



> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'd like to repeat my request to take a test sail on a Rhodes 22.
> 
> I"m in the process of moving to the Sarasota area and have become impressed
> by how shallow the waters are around here. The Rhodes seems like an optimal
> boat for this region and his high on my list of possibilities. I'm sure you
> can understand (since I expect you've all gone through this) that I'd like
> to have a hands on experience of what a Rhodes 22 really is. I've read as
> much as I can about Rhodes 22 and how it compares to similar boats  but
> this is not the same as sitting on the boat, feeling how it sails and what
> its like to move around the boat.
> 
> So...is there anyone on the west coast of Florida (say from Fort Meyers to
> Clearwater) that might be able to take me out for an hour or two sometime
> in the next month or so?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> --Reuben
> Reuben Mezrich
> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (now in the Sarasota area)
> Cell: 410-499-8922
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
>> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
>> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
>> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
>> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
>> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
>> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
>> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
>> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
>> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
>> one
>> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
>> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
>> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
>> 
>> --Reuben
>> 
>> Reuben Mezrich
>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
>> Cell: 410-499-8922
>> 


From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Feb  6 08:55:28 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 13:55:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <CAHrO9mvDFSs85TXeBUrMze1M78h-bsPX489SGQy+ikB6mD=aNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHrO9mvDFSs85TXeBUrMze1M78h-bsPX489SGQy+ikB6mD=aNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1055089449.207754.1580997328957@mail.yahoo.com>

My boat is in water ready to go but in North Carolina if going by this way let me know
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area

I'd like to repeat my request to take a test sail on a Rhodes 22.

I"m in the process of moving to the Sarasota area and have become impressed
by how shallow the waters are around here. The Rhodes seems like an optimal
boat for this region and his high on my list of possibilities. I'm sure you
can understand (since I expect you've all gone through this) that I'd like
to have a hands on experience of what a Rhodes 22 really is. I've read as
much as I can about Rhodes 22 and how it compares to similar boats? but
this is not the same as sitting on the boat, feeling how it sails and what
its like to move around the boat.

So...is there anyone on the west coast of Florida (say from Fort Meyers to
Clearwater) that might be able to take me out for an hour or two sometime
in the next month or so?

Thanks in advance

--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor (now in the Sarasota area)
Cell: 410-499-8922


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi
> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
> one
> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
>
> --Reuben
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
> Cell: 410-499-8922
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 14:35:11 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:35:11 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
Message-ID: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>

So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to the
Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was about
300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS

From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 15:33:36 2020
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 15:33:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and spent
many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.


~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180


On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to the
> Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was about
> 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
>
> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Feb 16 19:39:08 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 19:39:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006c01d5e52a$abe24ea0$03a6ebe0$@ca>

WOW!

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 2:35 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece

So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to the
Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was about
300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 08:31:39 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:31:39 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>

Richard,
Perhaps you can offer some insights into the area. Next summer we head
south around the Peloponnesus then into the Saronic Gulf. Or alternatively,
we make a quick run through the canal. From there either the inside passage
through Halkis, the Sporades and jump over to Lesvos and south to Rhodes.
We could also go through the southern route through the Cyclades. With you
Knowing the area and the Rhodes I welcome your thoughts. I?ve sailed all
the routes except for the Peloponnesus. I sailed the Sporades 50 years ago
and the Cyclades 15 years ago. Hopefully we leave the boat in Turkey.
Chris Geankoplis
ENOSIS


On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:33, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and spent
> many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.
>
>
> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>
> Richard Beytagh
> Phone: 828 337 0180
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to
> the
> > Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was about
> > 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
> >
> > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > ENOSIS
> >
>

From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 18:10:13 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:10:13 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc-3fpT+2bsfVG0UMkXOc333mO6hb8H4Cfubq+hxh6Cq-8heA@mail.gmail.com>

Your latest travelogue is great reading for my trip back home from Kemah,
TX.  Thanks for continuing to share these.  Just got a respite from the
winter weather in Nebraska by taking the ASA 103 and 104 classes down
south.  It is fun to sail on the coast for a change.  After checking out
bigger boats I'm always impressed by the features packed into the compact
and easy to use R22!

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 7:31 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Richard,
> Perhaps you can offer some insights into the area. Next summer we head
> south around the Peloponnesus then into the Saronic Gulf. Or alternatively,
> we make a quick run through the canal. From there either the inside passage
> through Halkis, the Sporades and jump over to Lesvos and south to Rhodes.
> We could also go through the southern route through the Cyclades. With you
> Knowing the area and the Rhodes I welcome your thoughts. I?ve sailed all
> the routes except for the Peloponnesus. I sailed the Sporades 50 years ago
> and the Cyclades 15 years ago. Hopefully we leave the boat in Turkey.
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:33, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and spent
> > many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.
> >
> >
> > ~~~ _/) ~~~
> >
> > Richard Beytagh
> > Phone: 828 337 0180
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to
> > the
> > > Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was
> about
> > > 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
> > >
> > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > > ENOSIS
> > >
> >
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 19:43:38 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:43:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CAMc-3fpT+2bsfVG0UMkXOc333mO6hb8H4Cfubq+hxh6Cq-8heA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc-3fpT+2bsfVG0UMkXOc333mO6hb8H4Cfubq+hxh6Cq-8heA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVQNK07Qe0kuv30i2-w07E8GmdUwjDgLobwc3WSFdvGBw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes I took a couple of ASA courses. Glad you enjoyed the warm time both
literature-ly and literally.

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 18:10, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Your latest travelogue is great reading for my trip back home from Kemah,
> TX.  Thanks for continuing to share these.  Just got a respite from the
> winter weather in Nebraska by taking the ASA 103 and 104 classes down
> south.  It is fun to sail on the coast for a change.  After checking out
> bigger boats I'm always impressed by the features packed into the compact
> and easy to use R22!
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 7:31 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> > Perhaps you can offer some insights into the area. Next summer we head
> > south around the Peloponnesus then into the Saronic Gulf. Or
> alternatively,
> > we make a quick run through the canal. From there either the inside
> passage
> > through Halkis, the Sporades and jump over to Lesvos and south to Rhodes.
> > We could also go through the southern route through the Cyclades. With
> you
> > Knowing the area and the Rhodes I welcome your thoughts. I?ve sailed all
> > the routes except for the Peloponnesus. I sailed the Sporades 50 years
> ago
> > and the Cyclades 15 years ago. Hopefully we leave the boat in Turkey.
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > ENOSIS
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:33, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and
> spent
> > > many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~~ _/) ~~~
> > >
> > > Richard Beytagh
> > > Phone: 828 337 0180
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over
> to
> > > the
> > > > Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was
> > about
> > > > 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather
> sailing.
> > > >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
> > > >
> > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > > > ENOSIS
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From Keithwade at email.com  Mon Feb 17 21:10:10 2020
From: Keithwade at email.com (Rocartfe2)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:10:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
Message-ID: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I went to put new line on my furler for the upcoming season.  When I took the
assembly apart I found a spacer up inside.  should this spacer have been
located where it is seen in the spacer pic.  I included a pic of how it  was
when I got the boat.  Also does anyone know who makes this and where I can
get a new white part.  Thanks for any help you can provide.
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/small_spacer_on_furler.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/as_it_was_before_i_removed_it.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/white_bottom_piece.jpg> 



-----
Keith G.
St. Mary's County MD
S/V Old Soul
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 17 22:26:57 2020
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (jfn302 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 21:26:57 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>

Keith,

I haven't been able to find out where they are made, or how to replace it,
but I have considered how to replace it myself. 

A sheet of HDPE is what I was planning on making it out of.
My planned order of operations was going to be to cut the sheet into a 2"
square.
Wrap it in masking tape so that I can make measurement marks.
Mark the center by drawing an X from diagonal corners.
Measure 1/2" from each side of center and make a mark.  
Extend the measurements around the edges of the square.
Mark the center longwise on the edge so that that the line crosses the two
marks you made in the previous operation.
Drill through the square from edge to edge at the cross points made in the
previous two operations.  (drill press will make this easy, but careful use
of a hand drill will do the job.)  (use a 13/64" bit if you plan on using a
#10 bolt and nut to replace the screws you have.)
Lay the block flat and use a hole saw to drill out the circle shape.
Cut the circle in half with a bandsaw/jigsaw/coping saw/Japanese drawsaw.
Use a countersink in each of the holes so the head of the bolt and nut are
not exposed.

If the center hole in the disc is not the correct size, you can bolt the two
halves together and then use larger and larger drill bits until you get the
size center hole that you want.

I haven't quite built mine yet, but this was the plan on how to make the
parts when I got to that point.

Hope this helps.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
Rocartfe2
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:10 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions

I went to put new line on my furler for the upcoming season.  When I took
the assembly apart I found a spacer up inside.  should this spacer have been
located where it is seen in the spacer pic.  I included a pic of how it  was
when I got the boat.  Also does anyone know who makes this and where I can
get a new white part.  Thanks for any help you can provide.
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/small_spacer_on_furler.jpg
>
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/as_it_was_before_i_removed
_it.jpg>
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/white_bottom_piece.jpg> 



-----
Keith G.
St. Mary's County MD
S/V Old Soul
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 08:01:28 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>
References: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMMkkkMXWDo90Gt88sABdRq3muSz76C-J5gZnm7DNgphbA@mail.gmail.com>

>Or you cut just cut two circles with a hole saw.

>Countersink the arbor drilled hole on one disk so it will ride centered on
the round bead swaged on the stay.

>With a jigsaw cut a thin slots the width of the stay O.D. from the center
holes out to the edge on both disks.

>Slide both disks onto the stay and screw them together with the slots 180?
from each other.

A lot less engineering involved.

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 10:27 PM James Nichols via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I haven't been able to find out where they are made, or how to replace it,
> but I have considered how to replace it myself.
>
> A sheet of HDPE is what I was planning on making it out of.
> My planned order of operations was going to be to cut the sheet into a 2"
> square.
> Wrap it in masking tape so that I can make measurement marks.
> Mark the center by drawing an X from diagonal corners.
> Measure 1/2" from each side of center and make a mark.
> Extend the measurements around the edges of the square.
> Mark the center longwise on the edge so that that the line crosses the two
> marks you made in the previous operation.
> Drill through the square from edge to edge at the cross points made in the
> previous two operations.  (drill press will make this easy, but careful use
> of a hand drill will do the job.)  (use a 13/64" bit if you plan on using a
> #10 bolt and nut to replace the screws you have.)
> Lay the block flat and use a hole saw to drill out the circle shape.
> Cut the circle in half with a bandsaw/jigsaw/coping saw/Japanese drawsaw.
> Use a countersink in each of the holes so the head of the bolt and nut are
> not exposed.
>
> If the center hole in the disc is not the correct size, you can bolt the
> two
> halves together and then use larger and larger drill bits until you get the
> size center hole that you want.
>
> I haven't quite built mine yet, but this was the plan on how to make the
> parts when I got to that point.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Rocartfe2
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:10 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
>
> I went to put new line on my furler for the upcoming season.  When I took
> the assembly apart I found a spacer up inside.  should this spacer have
> been
> located where it is seen in the spacer pic.  I included a pic of how it
> was
> when I got the boat.  Also does anyone know who makes this and where I can
> get a new white part.  Thanks for any help you can provide.
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/small_spacer_on_furler.jpg
> >
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/as_it_was_before_i_removed
> _it.jpg
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/as_it_was_before_i_removed_it.jpg>
> >
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/white_bottom_piece.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----
> Keith G.
> St. Mary's County MD
> S/V Old Soul
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 08:22:30 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:22:30 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMNEisS6w7jYAELABCv2_HXnNiKx-f_DCJ3J91WYRssgNA@mail.gmail.com>

Keith,
This looks like the original "GB style" furler which uses a headsail with a
sleeve luff.

I have seen several different set-ups, bearings, spacers, risers etc. There
is no telling which are OEM and which are owner created. Some have the bead
swaged onto the stay and one I had had a 12" PVC spacer to raise the sail
above the bow pulpit some.
>From your pics, it appears that the lower spacer failed and the furler
assembly dropped down over the bead and onto the fitting.

I see you are in Maryland. I live in Brandywine (Charles County). I have a
couple of these type furlers laying out in the yard. If you want one for
spare or experimentation you're welcome to it.

Todd T.


tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 9:10 PM Rocartfe2 <Keithwade at email.com> wrote:

> I went to put new line on my furler for the upcoming season.  When I took
> the
> assembly apart I found a spacer up inside.  should this spacer have been
> located where it is seen in the spacer pic.  I included a pic of how it
> was
> when I got the boat.  Also does anyone know who makes this and where I can
> get a new white part.  Thanks for any help you can provide.
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/small_spacer_on_furler.jpg>
>
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/as_it_was_before_i_removed_it.jpg>
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/white_bottom_piece.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----
> Keith G.
> St. Mary's County MD
> S/V Old Soul
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 18 10:44:36 2020
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (jfn302 at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 09:44:36 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMMkkkMXWDo90Gt88sABdRq3muSz76C-J5gZnm7DNgphbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>
 <CAB-twMMkkkMXWDo90Gt88sABdRq3muSz76C-J5gZnm7DNgphbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009301d5e672$53d9a390$fb8ceab0$@yahoo.com>

Yup, What Todd says works too.  I've just always been concerned that if the sail pulled the fuller up the spacer with the notches could potentially flip up and sit diagonally, but turning the slots 90 degrees from each other should take care of that.

I'm just a serious perfectionist and always want to rebuild things the way they were or better.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 7:01 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions

>Or you cut just cut two circles with a hole saw.

>Countersink the arbor drilled hole on one disk so it will ride centered 
>on
the round bead swaged on the stay.

>With a jigsaw cut a thin slots the width of the stay O.D. from the 
>center
holes out to the edge on both disks.

>Slide both disks onto the stay and screw them together with the slots 
>180?
from each other.

A lot less engineering involved.

tavares0947 at gmail.com



From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Tue Feb 18 11:01:53 2020
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:01:53 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <009301d5e672$53d9a390$fb8ceab0$@yahoo.com>
References: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>
 <CAB-twMMkkkMXWDo90Gt88sABdRq3muSz76C-J5gZnm7DNgphbA@mail.gmail.com>
 <009301d5e672$53d9a390$fb8ceab0$@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR18MB1626E09D19AD7EB8627185ABD1110@DM5PR18MB1626.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

You can also replace with a standard cdi that allows repairs and parts.

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]



Please consider the environment before printing this email.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of James Nichols via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:45 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions

Yup, What Todd says works too.  I've just always been concerned that if the sail pulled the fuller up the spacer with the notches could potentially flip up and sit diagonally, but turning the slots 90 degrees from each other should take care of that.

I'm just a serious perfectionist and always want to rebuild things the way they were or better.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 7:01 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions

>Or you cut just cut two circles with a hole saw.

>Countersink the arbor drilled hole on one disk so it will ride centered 
>on
the round bead swaged on the stay.

>With a jigsaw cut a thin slots the width of the stay O.D. from the 
>center
holes out to the edge on both disks.

>Slide both disks onto the stay and screw them together with the slots 
>180?
from each other.

A lot less engineering involved.

tavares0947 at gmail.com



From Keithwade at email.com  Wed Feb 19 21:01:08 2020
From: Keithwade at email.com (Rocartfe2)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:01:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>
References: <1581991810674-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <006201d5e60b$47b487e0$d71d97a0$@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1582164068861-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

James, I talked with my machinist buddy today I am thinking about making the
disk out of Delrin? Acetal AF Resin Rods cut a disk off the rod and then
machine the screw holes.   Depending on how much effort it takes I may make
a few if I end up building a jig to keep things aligned.  I will give you a
heads up if I make enough to share.



-----
Keith G.
St. Mary's County MD
S/V Old Soul
--
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Wed Feb 19 22:41:30 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:41:30 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions
In-Reply-To: <1582164068861-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.878.1582170098.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

Acetal Delrin is an easily machined nylon. Check to see if it is as UV resistant as UHMWPE which is commonly used in this application.?Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91Nissequogue River, NY
-------- Original message --------From: Rocartfe2 <Keithwade at email.com> Date: 2/19/20  9:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] furler questions James, I talked with my machinist buddy today I am thinking about making thedisk out of Delrin? Acetal AF Resin Rods cut a disk off the rod and thenmachine the screw holes.?? Depending on how much effort it takes I may makea few if I end up building a jig to keep things aligned.? I will give you aheads up if I make enough to share.-----Keith G.St. Mary's County MDS/V Old Soul--Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 08:25:12 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (Michael Dale)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 08:25:12 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
Message-ID: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>

Hello! I?m Michael a new owner of an as yet unnamed 1989 Rhodes 22, recycled in 2003. 

I bought her through Popyachts brokerage from a family from near Sassamansville, Pennsylvania. 

She will be sailing the big waters of Lake Huron?s Georgian Bay with a home base of Honey Harbour, Ontario. 

I have one hundred questions but I thought it best to start with an introduction.

Regards,
Michael

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 08:57:06 2020
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 08:57:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRqM8D3v0VWrxVLLxUQb-yYemu60UPrsqsLRnose4E683Q@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome Michael, to the List and ownership of a Rhodes 22. There is a large
amount information and willingness to share with other Rhodies. Sometimes
you will find it necessary to overlook the natural argumentative nature of
some responders. Mostly in good nature.
Again welcome, and I am sure you will love sailing your Rhodes 22.
Cary Tolbert
S/V Whisper '86
Radford, VA

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 8:25 AM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello! I?m Michael a new owner of an as yet unnamed 1989 Rhodes 22,
> recycled in 2003.
>
> I bought her through Popyachts brokerage from a family from near
> Sassamansville, Pennsylvania.
>
> She will be sailing the big waters of Lake Huron?s Georgian Bay with a
> home base of Honey Harbour, Ontario.
>
> I have one hundred questions but I thought it best to start with an
> introduction.
>
> Regards,
> Michael

From rlowe at vt.edu  Thu Feb 20 09:03:13 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:03:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB6941BDDD68FBAB7B10F2B8B7C1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Michael,
Congratulations on your purchase!  Is this your first boat?  Let the questions begin. - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Dale
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 8:25 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner

Hello! I?m Michael a new owner of an as yet unnamed 1989 Rhodes 22, recycled in 2003. 

I bought her through Popyachts brokerage from a family from near Sassamansville, Pennsylvania. 

She will be sailing the big waters of Lake Huron?s Georgian Bay with a home base of Honey Harbour, Ontario. 

I have one hundred questions but I thought it best to start with an introduction.

Regards,
Michael

From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 09:04:34 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:04:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRqM8D3v0VWrxVLLxUQb-yYemu60UPrsqsLRnose4E683Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRqM8D3v0VWrxVLLxUQb-yYemu60UPrsqsLRnose4E683Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582207474184-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Here is the listing of the boat: Check out this 1989 Rhodes 22!
https://www.popyachts.com/cruising-sailboats-for-sale/rhodes-22-in-sassamansville-pennsylvania-183033 

There are a lot of good photos. It?s amazing to me that a 31 year old boat
could be in such beautiful condition.



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From rlowe at vt.edu  Thu Feb 20 09:14:34 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:14:34 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582207474184-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRqM8D3v0VWrxVLLxUQb-yYemu60UPrsqsLRnose4E683Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1582207474184-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB6941C9032A302DA92C371DB5C1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Damn, that is a pretty boat and well equipped.  Good score! - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of KillarneyLake
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:05 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner

Here is the listing of the boat: Check out this 1989 Rhodes 22!
https://www.popyachts.com/cruising-sailboats-for-sale/rhodes-22-in-sassamansville-pennsylvania-183033 

There are a lot of good photos. It?s amazing to me that a 31 year old boat could be in such beautiful condition.



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 09:43:59 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:43:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR05MB6941BDDD68FBAB7B10F2B8B7C1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB6941BDDD68FBAB7B10F2B8B7C1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1582209839316-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

This is my first ?big? boat.

I tried countless times to successfully windsurf?mastered downwind requiring
regular motorboat rescue.

Then we were gifted a ~40 year old BIC styrofoam catboat that drafts two
inches with six inches of freeboard. This thing is actually a ton of fun and
my son and I can both sail it pretty well.

Then we got an International C420 racing dingy. It is really fast and forces
you to learn rapidly because it is a tiny boat with a relatively huge mast
and sail area. We spend a fair amount of time treading water with the sails
wet. If we got a harness and used the trapese rig we would have fewer
mishaps.



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From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Feb 20 13:08:28 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <586488950.4248653.1582222108868@mail.yahoo.com>

Welcome Aboard? there's a lot of good advice from the members on this forum?? ??
Mark West S/V Faifwinds II

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 8:25 am
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner

Hello! I?m Michael a new owner of an as yet unnamed 1989 Rhodes 22, recycled in 2003. 

I bought her through Popyachts brokerage from a family from near Sassamansville, Pennsylvania. 

She will be sailing the big waters of Lake Huron?s Georgian Bay with a home base of Honey Harbour, Ontario. 

I have one hundred questions but I thought it best to start with an introduction.

Regards,
Michael

From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 15:41:20 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (Michael Dale)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:41:20 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
Message-ID: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>

Let me know how crazy is this idea:

I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer. Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about $300 to deliver the trailer.

Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up on land with my ATV. Tada!

This is about a 4 km journey.

I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle this oddly balanced belly cargo load.

What could go wrong?

Michael


Sent from my iPhone

From rlowe at vt.edu  Thu Feb 20 16:14:13 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:14:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB69410BF91AB80C699DE89CDFC1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Michael,
So you want to launch the boat and trailer strapped together as a unit and motor to your island home.  I must say, this is the first time this question has been asked.  I can think of a whole host of questions, but the basic physics comes down to does the trailer weight more that the buoyancy of the boat.  I really don't know.  Where's Roger when you need him?  If you decide to do this, please take plenty of pictures!  My gut feeling is this is not a good idea, but it's an interesting topic for discussion.  Besides, it's too cold to sail and we need something to talk about.  But one question comes to mind, does your ATV have enough ass to get your trailer and boat out of the water come winter? - rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Dale
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:41 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Let me know how crazy is this idea:

I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer. Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about $300 to deliver the trailer.

Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up on land with my ATV. Tada!

This is about a 4 km journey.

I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle this oddly balanced belly cargo load.

What could go wrong?

Michael


Sent from my iPhone

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Feb 20 16:26:10 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003f01d5e834$5feda190$1fc8e4b0$@ebsmed.com>

Michael,

I would be concerned that even if the Rhodes can safely provide enough "lift" to transport the trailer, it will make the boat fairly unstable, particularly if you encounter winds or currents.  You could easily wind up losing both the boat and the trailer, not to mention compromise your own safety as pilot.

I would consider towing the trailer behind the boat using flotation under the trailer. One can purchase large airbags that could be affixed to the under carriage of the trailer.  If the load becomes unstable, you just cut it loose from the boat.  Make sure that you attached a marker float to the tow line before starting out enabling a salvage operation later.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Dale
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:41 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Let me know how crazy is this idea:

I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer. Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about $300 to deliver the trailer.

Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up on land with my ATV. Tada!

This is about a 4 km journey.

I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle this oddly balanced belly cargo load.

What could go wrong?

Michael


Sent from my iPhone=


From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Feb 20 16:54:33 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:54:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>

can you float the trailer on plastic drums or such and tow it ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 3:41 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Let me know how crazy is this idea:

I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer. Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about $300 to deliver the trailer.

Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up on land with my ATV. Tada!

This is about a 4 km journey.

I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle this oddly balanced belly cargo load.

What could go wrong?

Michael


Sent from my iPhone

From jason_q at jasonquick.com  Thu Feb 20 17:11:36 2020
From: jason_q at jasonquick.com (Jason Quick)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:11:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe2k8NOdEJyq_67drgcsFHKTKpN9GwK0y+yhHCgdqDgCG5Gxw@mail.gmail.com>

It sounds crazy but actually this is done with some regularity with power
boats...it even made a Mythbusters episode back in the day where the boat
dealer they worked with mentioned they'd delivered a few trailers that way.

I've seen it done once in real life myself, but never with a sailboat. I
would think though that if you could motor or be towed it would be doable.
Pick your weather carefully though...I'd hate to explain that one to the
insurance company.

--Jason

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 3:41 PM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me know how crazy is this idea:
>
> I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island
> home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
> spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when
> winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
> Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about
> $300 to deliver the trailer.
>
> Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I
> have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the
> boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I
> beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up
> on land with my ATV. Tada!
>
> This is about a 4 km journey.
>
> I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
> this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
>
> What could go wrong?
>
> Michael
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone

From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 17:22:20 2020
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:22:20 -0800
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <CAGe2k8NOdEJyq_67drgcsFHKTKpN9GwK0y+yhHCgdqDgCG5Gxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <CAGe2k8NOdEJyq_67drgcsFHKTKpN9GwK0y+yhHCgdqDgCG5Gxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuNnLb94GReqfxBcBEp=gwREYQbYrv5A7xpAn=Bto8A47Q@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds risky to me, but then I have become more cautious in my dotage. As
an alternative, I wonder if you might put some flotation under the trailer
and motor over. Just a thought.

Cheers,

Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 2:11 PM Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com> wrote:

> It sounds crazy but actually this is done with some regularity with power
> boats...it even made a Mythbusters episode back in the day where the boat
> dealer they worked with mentioned they'd delivered a few trailers that way.
>
> I've seen it done once in real life myself, but never with a sailboat. I
> would think though that if you could motor or be towed it would be doable.
> Pick your weather carefully though...I'd hate to explain that one to the
> insurance company.
>
> --Jason
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 3:41 PM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Let me know how crazy is this idea:
> >
> > I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island
> > home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
> > spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when
> > winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
> > Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost
> about
> > $300 to deliver the trailer.
> >
> > Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I
> > have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to
> the
> > boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island
> where I
> > beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer
> up
> > on land with my ATV. Tada!
> >
> > This is about a 4 km journey.
> >
> > I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
> > this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
> >
> > What could go wrong?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 17:47:10 2020
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (JeffSmith)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:47:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582238830274-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

The ice boating in NJ has been not so great over the past few years, but
conditions may vary in Georgian Bay. Does the body of water freeze well
enough to drive  a truck or snowmobile (towing your trailer) to your
destination?
 The ice is never safe, but if you can avoid the cracks, pressure ridges and
thin spots you might have a shot.
Wear a PFD... 
By the way when we in NJ travel to Lakes Champlain or Winnipesaukie, there
is usually a truck or snow mobile which has gone through the ice and I hear
the daily environmental 
fines are huge.  I can only imagine what they would be in Canada. 



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From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 18:10:06 2020
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (JeffSmith)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:10:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582240206366-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

If you are unfamiliar with the first extream sport of iceboating, check out
<NSIBYC.smugmug.com> and <Iceboat. org>.
Softwater sailing is coming! 



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From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 18:59:27 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:59:27 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <003f01d5e834$5feda190$1fc8e4b0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <003f01d5e834$5feda190$1fc8e4b0$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMM+p+xyQUq=_ymEeqP70cGJ2YxVOAoGk-25wFyuRat2Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Please video it...lol

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 4:26 PM <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I would be concerned that even if the Rhodes can safely provide enough
> "lift" to transport the trailer, it will make the boat fairly unstable,
> particularly if you encounter winds or currents.  You could easily wind up
> losing both the boat and the trailer, not to mention compromise your own
> safety as pilot.
>
> I would consider towing the trailer behind the boat using flotation under
> the trailer. One can purchase large airbags that could be affixed to the
> under carriage of the trailer.  If the load becomes unstable, you just cut
> it loose from the boat.  Make sure that you attached a marker float to the
> tow line before starting out enabling a salvage operation later.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Dale
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:41 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
>
> Let me know how crazy is this idea:
>
> I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island
> home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
> spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when
> winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
> Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about
> $300 to deliver the trailer.
>
> Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I
> have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the
> boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I
> beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up
> on land with my ATV. Tada!
>
> This is about a 4 km journey.
>
> I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
> this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
>
> What could go wrong?
>
> Michael
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone=
>
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 19:30:16 2020
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (JeffSmith)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:30:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582245016451-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Considering the options, $300 seems reasonable. I love spending other
people's money! 



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 21:36:16 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:36:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <003f01d5e834$5feda190$1fc8e4b0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <003f01d5e834$5feda190$1fc8e4b0$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <1582252576030-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I?ve looked in to salvage airbags but the cost rivals the barging cost. I
have four personal sized lilipads and an utterly ridiculous inflatable multi
person peacock lovingly aimed Percy. Maybe with my bucket of currently
tangled ratchet straps, I could attach sufficient buoyancy to float the
trailer and tow it with my runabout. I like the idea of rigging a rapid
detach with float marker. 

Anybody know of a perfect ?emergency escape? knot for attaching something
that if it sinks while remaining tethered will capsize the tow craft?



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 22:15:27 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:15:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582238830274-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1582238830274-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1582254927374-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Here is the ice coverage on Georgian Bay: 

https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?v=-80.50314288469703,44.42728790277509,-79.49036394761363,45.636556503433255&t=2020-02-17-T03%3A01%3A07Z&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines

It is 99% open water this year. However Severn Sound has about ten inches of
ice which is fine for skis, snowshoes, boots, snowmobiles and ATVs. It?s
pushing it for cars and trucks. I wouldn?t try driving my Honda Pilot but I
am currently visiting the Lakehouse via snowmobile.





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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 22:22:02 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:22:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR05MB69410BF91AB80C699DE89CDFC1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB69410BF91AB80C699DE89CDFC1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1582255322023-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

If my 0.5 Liter four wheeler can?t pull the trailer out of the water, I can
ask a neighbor who has a four wheel drive utility tractor to help. The Triad
single axel trailer tongue extension will help keep the pulling vehicle away
from the slippery and soft water?s edge.



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 22:31:21 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:31:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1582255881905-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Your plastic drum idea gave me an adjacent idea?those metal caged water
buffaloes! They are inexpensive when purchased used, they seal, they can be
securely lashed and are quite buoyant.



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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Feb 20 22:51:34 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:51:34 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
Message-ID: <mailman.879.1582257102.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

I forgot to ask if you have a paved ramp on the island. It will be very difficult to pull the trailer/boat up a muddy slope.If the ATV can't pull it, you might use a winch or come along.Mikes/v Wind Lass ('91)
null

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 20 23:18:05 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:18:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <mailman.879.1582257102.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.879.1582257102.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMNaNOTi_+3JaKkpexW6wOKMrr9gbrS4Xth+tCPiqWOakg@mail.gmail.com>

Seriously,

If there aren't bridges or ferries, pay the $300 to have it transported.
The liability alone isnt worth the risk. Try explaining this to your
insurance company if something goes wrong and you lose both boat and
trailer...or worse yet someone is injured or drowns.
I thought this was a joke at first.
If there are roads enough on the island to need a trailer, then the trete
must be means of driving it over. My two cents worth.

Todd T.
tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 10:51 PM Michael Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> I forgot to ask if you have a paved ramp on the island. It will be very
> difficult to pull the trailer/boat up a muddy slope.If the ATV can't pull
> it, you might use a winch or come along.Mikes/v Wind Lass ('91)
> null

From daysails at aol.com  Fri Feb 21 00:31:20 2020
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 05:31:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1258484892.4453981.1582263080646@mail.yahoo.com>

I copied this from my 2011 Nabble posting "A by and large tall story" Now I wish I had patented the idea!??

I got tired of waiting for Spring?and?good sailing weather. ?So I drove to Lake Hartwell loaded Second Wind on the trailer?and?headed south then west along I-10. ?When I reached the coast of California I stepped the mast?and?splashed my Rhodes 22 into the Pacific. ?I then sailed it across to Hawaii on my way to Southeast Asia. ?I left the boat on the trailer?and?found this very useful as I could hit the east coast of any island I met, rent a tow vehicle?and?tow the boat across to the west coast of the island?and?set off again.?

Joe Riley on Second Wind Lake Hartwell

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 3:41 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Let me know how crazy is this idea:

I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer. Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about $300 to deliver the trailer.

Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up on land with my ATV. Tada!

This is about a 4 km journey.

I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle this oddly balanced belly cargo load.

What could go wrong?

Michael


Sent from my iPhone

From killarneylake at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 08:09:15 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:09:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1258484892.4453981.1582263080646@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1258484892.4453981.1582263080646@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1582290555441-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Exactly!



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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 08:37:17 2020
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:37:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <CAGe2k8NOdEJyq_67drgcsFHKTKpN9GwK0y+yhHCgdqDgCG5Gxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <CAGe2k8NOdEJyq_67drgcsFHKTKpN9GwK0y+yhHCgdqDgCG5Gxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPi3tBDfpXyxdAbYq=K14TrLTRkkAHVcYtNL60M3g5dJ54sLzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,
My trailer only weighs 250 lbs (allegedly). If yours is similar it might
make it easier.
If you have the trailer extender you may want to consider taking that in a
separate trip.

You definitely have to share pictures and video of the whole trip with the
Rhodes List. Let?s hope the toughest part is christening the trailer with
the right name. I would stay away from names like Danforth or Danielson or
SeaSense ... but that?s just my opinion ...

Bob
Sail la Vie Rhodes 2000
Kent Island, MD

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 5:11 PM Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com> wrote:

> It sounds crazy but actually this is done with some regularity with power
> boats...it even made a Mythbusters episode back in the day where the boat
> dealer they worked with mentioned they'd delivered a few trailers that way.
>
> I've seen it done once in real life myself, but never with a sailboat. I
> would think though that if you could motor or be towed it would be doable.
> Pick your weather carefully though...I'd hate to explain that one to the
> insurance company.
>
> --Jason
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 3:41 PM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Let me know how crazy is this idea:
> >
> > I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island
> > home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
> > spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when
> > winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
> > Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost
> about
> > $300 to deliver the trailer.
> >
> > Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I
> > have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to
> the
> > boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island
> where I
> > beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer
> up
> > on land with my ATV. Tada!
> >
> > This is about a 4 km journey.
> >
> > I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
> > this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
> >
> > What could go wrong?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Fri Feb 21 08:45:54 2020
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:45:54 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582255322023-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB69410BF91AB80C699DE89CDFC1130@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <1582255322023-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <F7821058-E159-48C1-BB30-DA839F72B586@stottarchitecture.com>

I actually like the idea.
An amphibious Rhodes!
I don?t see why it wouldn?t work - as you say - What could go wrong? 
The Rhodes will easily float the trailer weight, so why not? 
There is plenty of mis-hap info if you web-search 
Here is one link
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3702704/Hilarious-photo-boat-trailer-attached-baffles-Facebook.html? <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3702704/Hilarious-photo-boat-trailer-attached-baffles-Facebook.html>
Have fun. 
Ric 
sv Dadventure 

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 





> On Feb 20, 2020, at 10:22 PM, KillarneyLake <killarneylake at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If my 0.5 Liter four wheeler can?t pull the trailer out of the water, I can
> ask a neighbor who has a four wheel drive utility tractor to help. The Triad
> single axel trailer tongue extension will help keep the pulling vehicle away
> from the slippery and soft water?s edge.
> 
> 
> 
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From borderfolle at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 21 09:36:48 2020
From: borderfolle at yahoo.com (Donald Simons)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:36:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3tBDfpXyxdAbYq=K14TrLTRkkAHVcYtNL60M3g5dJ54sLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <CAGe2k8NOdEJyq_67drgcsFHKTKpN9GwK0y+yhHCgdqDgCG5Gxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPi3tBDfpXyxdAbYq=K14TrLTRkkAHVcYtNL60M3g5dJ54sLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <672377339.4565740.1582295808377@mail.yahoo.com>

 Before attempting this, I suggest the confirmation of your trailer weight.? I have a twin-axle Triad trailer and according to Triad, it's empty weight is 1400 pounds.? A single axle would probably be a few hundred pounds less.? I hope this helps.
Don Simons,Ithaca, NY
    On Friday, February 21, 2020, 08:37:37 AM EST, Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Michael,
My trailer only weighs 250 lbs (allegedly). If yours is similar it might
make it easier.
If you have the trailer extender you may want to consider taking that in a
separate trip.

You definitely have to share pictures and video of the whole trip with the
Rhodes List. Let?s hope the toughest part is christening the trailer with
the right name. I would stay away from names like Danforth or Danielson or
SeaSense ... but that?s just my opinion ...

Bob
Sail la Vie Rhodes 2000
Kent Island, MD

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 5:11 PM Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com> wrote:

> It sounds crazy but actually this is done with some regularity with power
> boats...it even made a Mythbusters episode back in the day where the boat
> dealer they worked with mentioned they'd delivered a few trailers that way.
>
> I've seen it done once in real life myself, but never with a sailboat. I
> would think though that if you could motor or be towed it would be doable.
> Pick your weather carefully though...I'd hate to explain that one to the
> insurance company.
>
> --Jason
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 3:41 PM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Let me know how crazy is this idea:
> >
> > I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island
> > home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
> > spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when
> > winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
> > Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost
> about
> > $300 to deliver the trailer.
> >
> > Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I
> > have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to
> the
> > boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island
> where I
> > beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer
> up
> > on land with my ATV. Tada!
> >
> > This is about a 4 km journey.
> >
> > I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
> > this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
> >
> > What could go wrong?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>  

From dwbrad at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 13:44:22 2020
From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:44:22 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3tBDfpXyxdAbYq=K14TrLTRkkAHVcYtNL60M3g5dJ54sLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPi3tBDfpXyxdAbYq=K14TrLTRkkAHVcYtNL60M3g5dJ54sLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76A4D998-BA2A-4604-8081-71E0B12DD4BD@gmail.com>

I'll chip in my two cents. Better to spend the other $299.98. Unless it's about the adventure. -)

Dave

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Michael,
> My trailer only weighs 250 lbs (allegedly). If yours is similar it might
> make it easier.
> If you have the trailer extender you may want to consider taking that in a
> separate trip.
> 
> You definitely have to share pictures and video of the whole trip with the
> Rhodes List. Let?s hope the toughest part is christening the trailer with
> the right name. I would stay away from names like Danforth or Danielson or
> SeaSense ... but that?s just my opinion ...
> 
> Bob
> Sail la Vie Rhodes 2000
> Kent Island, MD
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 5:11 PM Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds crazy but actually this is done with some regularity with power
>> boats...it even made a Mythbusters episode back in the day where the boat
>> dealer they worked with mentioned they'd delivered a few trailers that way.
>> 
>> I've seen it done once in real life myself, but never with a sailboat. I
>> would think though that if you could motor or be towed it would be doable.
>> Pick your weather carefully though...I'd hate to explain that one to the
>> insurance company.
>> 
>> --Jason
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 3:41 PM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Let me know how crazy is this idea:
>>> 
>>> I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island
>>> home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
>>> spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when
>>> winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
>>> Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost
>> about
>>> $300 to deliver the trailer.
>>> 
>>> Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I
>>> have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to
>> the
>>> boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island
>> where I
>>> beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer
>> up
>>> on land with my ATV. Tada!
>>> 
>>> This is about a 4 km journey.
>>> 
>>> I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
>>> this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
>>> 
>>> What could go wrong?
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 

From jason_q at jasonquick.com  Fri Feb 21 14:03:39 2020
From: jason_q at jasonquick.com (Jason Quick)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:03:39 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <76A4D998-BA2A-4604-8081-71E0B12DD4BD@gmail.com>
References: <CAPi3tBDfpXyxdAbYq=K14TrLTRkkAHVcYtNL60M3g5dJ54sLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
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For the record even though I'm the one who said I've heard of it being done
I definitely would need to be saving a lot more than $300 to attempt
it...if $300 seems like a lot of money you probably can't afford the boat
anyway, after all $300 will barely buy you new running rigging.

--Jason

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 1:44 PM David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll chip in my two cents. Better to spend the other $299.98. Unless it's
> about the adventure. -)
>
> Dave
>
> > On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Michael,
> > My trailer only weighs 250 lbs (allegedly). If yours is similar it might
> > make it easier.
> > If you have the trailer extender you may want to consider taking that in
> a
> > separate trip.
> >
> > You definitely have to share pictures and video of the whole trip with
> the
> > Rhodes List. Let?s hope the toughest part is christening the trailer with
> > the right name. I would stay away from names like Danforth or Danielson
> or
> > SeaSense ... but that?s just my opinion ...
> >
> > Bob
> > Sail la Vie Rhodes 2000
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 5:11 PM Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It sounds crazy but actually this is done with some regularity with
> power
> >> boats...it even made a Mythbusters episode back in the day where the
> boat
> >> dealer they worked with mentioned they'd delivered a few trailers that
> way.
> >>
> >> I've seen it done once in real life myself, but never with a sailboat. I
> >> would think though that if you could motor or be towed it would be
> doable.
> >> Pick your weather carefully though...I'd hate to explain that one to the
> >> insurance company.
> >>
> >> --Jason
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 3:41 PM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Let me know how crazy is this idea:
> >>>
> >>> I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my
> island
> >>> home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat
> >>> spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but
> when
> >>> winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer.
> >>> Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost
> >> about
> >>> $300 to deliver the trailer.
> >>>
> >>> Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp
> normally...except I
> >>> have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to
> >> the
> >>> boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island
> >> where I
> >>> beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the
> trailer
> >> up
> >>> on land with my ATV. Tada!
> >>>
> >>> This is about a 4 km journey.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle
> >>> this oddly balanced belly cargo load.
> >>>
> >>> What could go wrong?
> >>>
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Feb 21 14:41:58 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:41:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582314118060-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Even IF the bouyancy of the Rhodes can support the weight (approx. 2000# I'm
guessing: don't have my trailer registration) I'm not sure that your
auxiliary could move the rig through water reliably. What is the drive time
via land route?



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s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Fri Feb 21 15:25:06 2020
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 20:25:06 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582314118060-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>,
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Have you considered the effects of extended deep submersion in salt water on the bearings, brakes, trailer hitch, master cylinder, tongue jack, leaf springs & attachment points, all the welds, lights, and wiring on your trailer?  Even if you immediately fresh water power washed everything upon arrival at your destination, I?m betting you will do more damage than the cost of transporting the boat and trailer.

How were you planning to hook the trailer hitch back up to a tow vehicle at your destination?

On the bright side, with all that weight under the hull, your boat will be VERY stable.  Weblos wobble, but they don?t fall down!  You will have to plug the cockpit drain as the boat will be sitting much lower in the water than the drain.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

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From: Joe Dempsey<mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:41 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Even IF the bouyancy of the Rhodes can support the weight (approx. 2000# I'm
guessing: don't have my trailer registration) I'm not sure that your
auxiliary could move the rig through water reliably. What is the drive time
via land route?



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Feb 21 17:12:11 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 17:12:11 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB6920D39DC741B16A7A8B26B280120@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1582314118060-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CH2PR02MB6920D39DC741B16A7A8B26B280120@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <FFA9D183-2297-44C4-9462-7D5B3519B170@sunnybeeches.com>

Lake Huron would be fresh water, no?  

Good point on the cockpit drain though.

My Triad trailer has several safety stickers on it that state ?Boat must be attached to trailer at all times?, so I think that this would just be a case of following the safety directives to the letter.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:25 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Have you considered the effects of extended deep submersion in salt water on the bearings, brakes, trailer hitch, master cylinder, tongue jack, leaf springs & attachment points, all the welds, lights, and wiring on your trailer?  Even if you immediately fresh water power washed everything upon arrival at your destination, I?m betting you will do more damage than the cost of transporting the boat and trailer.
> 
> How were you planning to hook the trailer hitch back up to a tow vehicle at your destination?
> 
> On the bright side, with all that weight under the hull, your boat will be VERY stable.  Weblos wobble, but they don?t fall down!  You will have to plug the cockpit drain as the boat will be sitting much lower in the water than the drain.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 


From killarneylake at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 20:40:02 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:40:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <672377339.4565740.1582295808377@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <672377339.4565740.1582295808377@mail.yahoo.com>
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Removing the trailer extender is a good idea, Bob.

Your suggested names for my trailer cracked me up...very clever.



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 20:42:02 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:42:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
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I think my single axle trailer is around 990 lbs



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 20:47:25 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:47:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582314118060-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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If the 9.9 Yamaha high thrust four stroke won?t move the boat with the
surplus drag, I could tow it with my 60 hp runabout.



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Fri Feb 21 20:53:19 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:53:19 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582314118060-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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There is no drive time; I live on a small island within Lake Huron.



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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sat Feb 22 06:44:53 2020
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 11:44:53 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
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I?m sorry, I didn?t see the part about Lake Huron.  That would be less damaging than salt water.  But, many of those trailer components were never designed for extended deep submersion, even in fresh water, and would still be damaged.  You will force water back up into the wiring, bearings, brakes, and into the hydraulic system.  This water will be difficult to get out and will cause damage that might not be evident for months.  At the very least, you would be looking at cleaning and repacking your wheel bearings, cleaning your brakes, flushing out the hydraulic system, and cleaning and greasing the tongue jack.

You will have much less freeboard than usual.   I would have some sort of battery powered pump to rapidly pump the cockpit out if you get swamped by a boat wake or something.  I would plug the sink drain.  I would close all the cabin hatches and companionway door.  I would remove as much gear as you can to lighten the load as much as possible.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

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From: Peter Nyberg<mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 5:12 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Lake Huron would be fresh water, no?

Good point on the cockpit drain though.

My Triad trailer has several safety stickers on it that state ?Boat must be attached to trailer at all times?, so I think that this would just be a case of following the safety directives to the letter.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:25 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Have you considered the effects of extended deep submersion in salt water on the bearings, brakes, trailer hitch, master cylinder, tongue jack, leaf springs & attachment points, all the welds, lights, and wiring on your trailer?  Even if you immediately fresh water power washed everything upon arrival at your destination, I?m betting you will do more damage than the cost of transporting the boat and trailer.
>
> How were you planning to hook the trailer hitch back up to a tow vehicle at your destination?
>
> On the bright side, with all that weight under the hull, your boat will be VERY stable.  Weblos wobble, but they don?t fall down!  You will have to plug the cockpit drain as the boat will be sitting much lower in the water than the drain.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>


From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sat Feb 22 09:42:50 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 07:42:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes 22 Owner
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References: <EBBF85E8-ED7B-4369-8579-02929A129B56@gmail.com>
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Welcome to the list!  From your first post with a question, you can see that
there can be some lively discussion among group, particularly on the more
wild ideas.



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sat Feb 22 09:52:24 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 07:52:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
Message-ID: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

This summer I will be doing a few road trips with my R22 to larger lakes.  On
these trips there will be 1 or 2 people onboard with me and I plan to anchor
out for the night on a few occasions.  I thought it might be nice to have a
dinghy to be able to get to shore or just to get out for some exercise if
we've been on the R22 for awhile.  I've got an inflatable stand up
paddleboard that I could stow in the v-berth but I was thinking about
getting something with a 2 person capacity.  I was considering a 2 person
inflatable kayak such as this one:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/>   that I could rolled up and store
in the v-berth as well.

In Chris G's adventures I see he uses a more traditional dinghy and stowes
that on the foredeck if not towing it, when it's still inflated.  

Whatever I get, I would like it to be able to be stowed inside the R22 when
trailering.

Any advice from the group on what works well or what to avoid for a dinghy? 
Thanks in advance for your input.



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From mitchpadl at gmail.com  Sat Feb 22 10:53:30 2020
From: mitchpadl at gmail.com (Mitch Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:53:30 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Hey Jesse, having owned a kayak/SUP/sailing business for 20 years I?ve never been a fan of inflatables however I do think they serve a purpose such as dingy. Although I don?t have personal experience with them I?ve had tons of customers say they love their Sea Eagle II. You might check them out. I would make sure that whatever you get you will want to make sure it has some sort of adequate foot braces. Mitch
Coastal Kayak
Fenwick Island, DE
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> On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:52 AM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?This summer I will be doing a few road trips with my R22 to larger lakes.  On
> these trips there will be 1 or 2 people onboard with me and I plan to anchor
> out for the night on a few occasions.  I thought it might be nice to have a
> dinghy to be able to get to shore or just to get out for some exercise if
> we've been on the R22 for awhile.  I've got an inflatable stand up
> paddleboard that I could stow in the v-berth but I was thinking about
> getting something with a 2 person capacity.  I was considering a 2 person
> inflatable kayak such as this one:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/>   that I could rolled up and store
> in the v-berth as well.
> 
> In Chris G's adventures I see he uses a more traditional dinghy and stowes
> that on the foredeck if not towing it, when it's still inflated.  
> 
> Whatever I get, I would like it to be able to be stowed inside the R22 when
> trailering.
> 
> Any advice from the group on what works well or what to avoid for a dinghy? 
> Thanks in advance for your input.
> 
> 
> 
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From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Sat Feb 22 11:41:10 2020
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 11:41:10 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Hi Jesse,
For years we used a pool toy dinghy a Sevylor Super Caravelle 3 person 
(it barely fit 2). It worked satisfactorily but we nicknamed it Comic 
Relief because that's what rowing it felt like - but it did get us to 
shore and back. For the price we figured we could buy one a year and 
come out ahead. It got light use (two or three times a season) but we 
only ever bought one and used it for at least 10 years. It had the 
advantage of inflating quickly and easily and stowing in a rubbermaid 
container under the cockpit seats.
https://www.amazon.com/Sevylor-Super-Caravelle-3-Person-Boat/dp/B00J052G9Y/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=sevylor+super+caravelle&qid=1582388667&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-1

We now have Advanced Elements inflatable kayaks. We sometimes use them 
on the boat (a pocket trawler) but mostly they are our everyday kayaks 
and we take them with us in the travel trailer. They are slower than 
hard kayaks but they are maneuverable and of course very bouyant. They 
handle waves well but not wind. They are very lightweight and easy to 
inflate. They are a bit trickier to get in and out of from a boat than a 
regular dinghy. Ours are singles but they do make a tandem.
https://www.amazon.com/ADVANCED-ELEMENTS-AdvancedFrame-Convertible-Inflatable/dp/B000J2O5VE/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1582388510&refinements=p_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A12653434011&rnid=12653432011&s=outdoor-recreation&sr=1-7

We bought ours from West Marine and on sale they were quite reasonable.

Hope this is helpful.

Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough RF 246? Tara
Rock Hall, MD

On 2/22/2020 9:52 AM, Jesse Shumaker wrote:
> This summer I will be doing a few road trips with my R22 to larger lakes.  On
> these trips there will be 1 or 2 people onboard with me and I plan to anchor
> out for the night on a few occasions.  I thought it might be nice to have a
> dinghy to be able to get to shore or just to get out for some exercise if
> we've been on the R22 for awhile.  I've got an inflatable stand up
> paddleboard that I could stow in the v-berth but I was thinking about
> getting something with a 2 person capacity.  I was considering a 2 person
> inflatable kayak such as this one:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/>   that I could rolled up and store
> in the v-berth as well.
>
> In Chris G's adventures I see he uses a more traditional dinghy and stowes
> that on the foredeck if not towing it, when it's still inflated.
>
> Whatever I get, I would like it to be able to be stowed inside the R22 when
> trailering.
>
> Any advice from the group on what works well or what to avoid for a dinghy?
> Thanks in advance for your input.
>
>
>
> --
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat Feb 22 14:29:11 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 14:29:11 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <017b01d5e9b6$5de69590$19b3c0b0$@ca>

I doubt that you could sail under such circumstances and using the motor would probably be very slow. You would want the lake to be dead calm especially when crossing 4 km of relatively open water.

I don't think the weight would be a problem for the boat. There is a lot of buoyancy in the tires. I once backed my single axel trailer down a cement ramp that ended abruptly with a drop off. The trailer wheels were suspended with the trailer frame sitting on the edge at the end of the ramp. There was no way to pull forward and I was contemplating how I might lift the stern of the trailer when a fellow boater pulled up, looped a rope under one of the bunks and while standing on his foredeck lifted the stern of the trailer by hand and held it while I pulled forward. It never occurred to me that one person could do that. If you have a dual axel trailer the buoyancy would be even greater.

If you decide to do this I would suggest that you be accompanied by a power boat that could tow you if necessary. I guess the only way to know for sure is to try it. Personally, I doubt that I would have the nerve but I am a lot less adventurous in my old age.

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Dale
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:41 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Let me know how crazy is this idea:

I need to get my 2003 Triad trailer from the mainland marina to my island home in Severn Sound, Georgian Bay, Lake Huron. I plan to moor the boat spring-summer-autumn just off the beach in front of my lakehouse but when winter approaches, bring the boat ashore for storage upon the trailer. Commercial barging services are available to my island but will cost about $300 to deliver the trailer.

Here is the idea?I launch the boat at the marina ramp normally...except I have the trailer affixed with two or three 10,000 lb ratchet straps to the boat. Then I just sail or motor the boat/trailer combo to my island where I beach it, unstrap and float the boat to the mooring and pull the trailer up on land with my ATV. Tada!

This is about a 4 km journey.

I wonder how much this combo will draft and if the Rhodes 22 can handle this oddly balanced belly cargo load.

What could go wrong?

Michael


Sent from my iPhone=


From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat Feb 22 14:44:41 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 14:44:41 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582252576030-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <003f01d5e834$5feda190$1fc8e4b0$@ebsmed.com>
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Message-ID: <017c01d5e9b8$88010480$98030d80$@ca>

Make the tow line greater than the water depth.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KillarneyLake
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:36 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

I?ve looked in to salvage airbags but the cost rivals the barging cost. I
have four personal sized lilipads and an utterly ridiculous inflatable multi
person peacock lovingly aimed Percy. Maybe with my bucket of currently
tangled ratchet straps, I could attach sufficient buoyancy to float the
trailer and tow it with my runabout. I like the idea of rigging a rapid
detach with float marker. 

Anybody know of a perfect ?emergency escape? knot for attaching something
that if it sinks while remaining tethered will capsize the tow craft?



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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat Feb 22 15:06:10 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 15:06:10 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582255881905-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1582255881905-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <017d01d5e9bb$885b2b10$99118130$@ca>

In Kingston Ontario  I was able to buy used 55 gal plastic drums from a local fruit vendor/food distributor for $20 each. They would be easy to strap to the trailer frame, have enormous buoyancy and can then be used afterwards to make floating docks or swim raft. If you need the drums anyway, using them to transport the trailer would be essentially free.  Four would probably do the job. 

I have attached a picture of my floating boathouse, located on lake Ontario, that I built using the drums. They are incredibly strong. I have left mine in the lake all through the winter freeze up for the last 15 years and they are still as good as new. When I used steel drums they rusted out in a couple of years.

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KillarneyLake
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:31 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

Your plastic drum idea gave me an adjacent idea?those metal caged water
buffaloes! They are inexpensive when purchased used, they seal, they can be
securely lashed and are quite buoyant.



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Sun Feb 23 16:10:38 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:10:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
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I think I?ll try the plastic drums and/or water buffaloes. I could use the
water buffaloes on the island for a few ideas I?ve been having to increase
my geothermal efficiency. And if drums turn out to be the better option a
floating swim platform is a lot of fun.



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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Sun Feb 23 16:20:38 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:20:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder Fracture
Message-ID: <1582492838568-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hello All,

My rudder has a 3 cm vertical fracture along the trailing edge. It is about
0.5 mm wide.

I was thinking of ?painting? the crack with two part epoxy paste and then
painting the entire rudder with bottom paint.

Another idea is to fill it with some 3M marine product.

Any other ideas?

Has this kind of crack developed in anyone else?s rudder?

Regards,

Michael




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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Feb 23 16:47:15 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:47:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder Fracture
In-Reply-To: <1582492838568-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582492838568-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <01b201d5ea92$d224f5a0$766ee0e0$@ca>

I am wondering what happened to create the crack. Might it be from water freezing inside the rudder? If so you would want to make sure the water is removed and the source found and sealed.
I would definitely use epoxy. Dig out the crack. Fill with thickened epoxy and cover with fiberglass. You will likely then need to fair the rudder to maintain the shape on both sides.
Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KillarneyLake
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder Fracture

Hello All,

My rudder has a 3 cm vertical fracture along the trailing edge. It is about
0.5 mm wide.

I was thinking of ?painting? the crack with two part epoxy paste and then
painting the entire rudder with bottom paint.

Another idea is to fill it with some 3M marine product.

Any other ideas?

Has this kind of crack developed in anyone else?s rudder?

Regards,

Michael




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From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Sun Feb 23 21:20:51 2020
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 21:20:51 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <017d01d5e9bb$885b2b10$99118130$@ca>
References: <017d01d5e9bb$885b2b10$99118130$@ca>
Message-ID: <85534B09-5CBF-48FA-8625-7BCD7D6CFB1E@gmail.com>

I would go with Graham?s idea or very happily pay the $300 fee for transport.  
With Graham?s idea you could almost have a little floating dock for the price of the transport if you are a diehard DIY guy.
I really prefer the idea of your trailer salvage barge being separate for safety.  I have done lots of dive salvage for these type things gone bad! Lol.  
Now if you consider how much time you will need to re-pack your hubs, cost of barrels, straps and line, stress of the towing ordeal then the calamity of the stuck trailer in the water when you cant get it out $300 sounds like a bargain.   Maybe consider buying a cheap tow vehicle and trailer to leave on the island.

Bob (palatka)

>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> ?In Kingston Ontario  I was able to buy used 55 gal plastic drums from a local fruit vendor/food distributor for $20 each. They would be easy to strap to the trailer frame, have enormous buoyancy and can then be used afterwards to make floating docks or swim raft. If you need the drums anyway, using them to transport the trailer would be essentially free.  Four would probably do the job. 
> 
> I have attached a picture of my floating boathouse, located on lake Ontario, that I built using the drums. They are incredibly strong. I have left mine in the lake all through the winter freeze up for the last 15 years and they are still as good as new. When I used steel drums they rusted out in a couple of years.
> 
> Graham
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KillarneyLake
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:31 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
> 
> Your plastic drum idea gave me an adjacent idea?those metal caged water
> buffaloes! They are inexpensive when purchased used, they seal, they can be
> securely lashed and are quite buoyant.
> 
> 
> 
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sun Feb 23 23:49:14 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:49:14 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582492238497-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>
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Don't forget the video or at least some pictures!  Please post to the list.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of KillarneyLake
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:11 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer

I think I?ll try the plastic drums and/or water buffaloes. I could use the water buffaloes on the island for a few ideas I?ve been having to increase my geothermal efficiency. And if drums turn out to be the better option a floating swim platform is a lot of fun.



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From daysails at aol.com  Mon Feb 24 10:12:41 2020
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:12:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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I understand wanting to have a dinghy for shore excursions but don't overlook that the design of the Rhodes 22 allows you to "run it up on the beach" if the shore is forgiving enough.? You mention you will be doing lake
sailing so this might be possible.? Some have suggested this might not be a good idea due to such concerns as waves bouncing the boat up and down so close to shore hitting the bottom and damaging the swing keel.? However Stan shared that he often beached his boat.? My Lake Hartwell sailing grounds? has many islands with forgiving red clay shores which I take advantage of as lunch hooks.? The swing keel, and ease of raising the motor makes the boat perfect for beaching.? If the drop off is deep enough, there is no reason to raise the motor as you can see in the attached picture.? ?Joe Riley S/V Daysails? Lake Hartwell SC??

-----Original Message-----
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From rlowe at vt.edu  Mon Feb 24 10:47:38 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:47:38 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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Joe,
Good photo.  Looks like you left your beverage behind though. - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Sling via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 10:13 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

I understand wanting to have a dinghy for shore excursions but don't overlook that the design of the Rhodes 22 allows you to "run it up on the beach" if the shore is forgiving enough.? You mention you will be doing lake sailing so this might be possible.? Some have suggested this might not be a good idea due to such concerns as waves bouncing the boat up and down so close to shore hitting the bottom and damaging the swing keel.? However Stan shared that he often beached his boat.? My Lake Hartwell sailing grounds? has many islands with forgiving red clay shores which I take advantage of as lunch hooks.? The swing keel, and ease of raising the motor makes the boat perfect for beaching.? If the drop off is deep enough, there is no reason to raise the motor as you can see in the attached picture.? ?Joe Riley S/V Daysails? Lake Hartwell SC??

-----Original Message-----
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Feb 24 11:07:31 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:07:31 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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One precaution must be observed when in shallow or unknown waters. You MUST RAISE AND CLEAT both the centerboard and the rudder blade. If your Rhodes travels backwards, you need to prevent unintended contact between the board or the rudder and the bottom (sand, clay or otherwise) or submerged objects, as the kick up features only work when traveling forward.

I know, I know ... this is the voice of experience ...

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Sling via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 10:13 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

I understand wanting to have a dinghy for shore excursions but don't overlook that the design of the Rhodes 22 allows you to "run it up on the beach" if the shore is forgiving enough.  You mention you will be doing lake sailing so this might be possible.  Some have suggested this might not be a good idea due to such concerns as waves bouncing the boat up and down so close to shore hitting the bottom and damaging the swing keel.  However Stan shared that he often beached his boat.  My Lake Hartwell sailing grounds  has many islands with forgiving red clay shores which I take advantage of as lunch hooks.  The swing keel, and ease of raising the motor makes the boat perfect for beaching.  If the drop off is deep enough, there is no reason to raise the motor as you can see in the attached picture.   Joe Riley S/V Daysails  Lake Hartwell SC  

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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Feb 24 11:34:17 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:34:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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Beaching the boat is great but not always possible in which case a dingy is necessary. I used an cheap inflatable Sevelor 2 person boat for years and it served us well. I was able to attach a very small eclectic motor that as I recall was an option for the boat that was held on the back with a very simple mechanism. I was surprised that I could run the motor for several hours, as I recall,  off a 12v motorcycle battery. It propelled the boat very efficiently. This not a life boat or a heavy carrier but for moving around a quiet anchorage it was perfect - and cheap.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:08 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

One precaution must be observed when in shallow or unknown waters. You MUST RAISE AND CLEAT both the centerboard and the rudder blade. If your Rhodes travels backwards, you need to prevent unintended contact between the board or the rudder and the bottom (sand, clay or otherwise) or submerged objects, as the kick up features only work when traveling forward.

I know, I know ... this is the voice of experience ...

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Sling via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 10:13 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

I understand wanting to have a dinghy for shore excursions but don't overlook that the design of the Rhodes 22 allows you to "run it up on the beach" if the shore is forgiving enough.  You mention you will be doing lake sailing so this might be possible.  Some have suggested this might not be a good idea due to such concerns as waves bouncing the boat up and down so close to shore hitting the bottom and damaging the swing keel.  However Stan shared that he often beached his boat.  My Lake Hartwell sailing grounds  has many islands with forgiving red clay shores which I take advantage of as lunch hooks.  The swing keel, and ease of raising the motor makes the boat perfect for beaching.  If the drop off is deep enough, there is no reason to raise the motor as you can see in the attached picture.   Joe Riley S/V Daysails  Lake Hartwell SC  

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To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Mon Feb 24 11:58:34 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:58:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <01e801d5eb30$438d7800$caa86800$@ca>
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 <01e801d5eb30$438d7800$caa86800$@ca>
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I'm building one now fun at pier tow it if needed


-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 11:34 am
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

Beaching the boat is great but not always possible in which case a dingy is necessary. I used an cheap inflatable Sevelor 2 person boat for years and it served us well. I was able to attach a very small eclectic motor that as I recall was an option for the boat that was held on the back with a very simple mechanism. I was surprised that I could run the motor for several hours, as I recall,? off a 12v motorcycle battery. It propelled the boat very efficiently. This not a life boat or a heavy carrier but for moving around a quiet anchorage it was perfect - and cheap.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:08 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

One precaution must be observed when in shallow or unknown waters. You MUST RAISE AND CLEAT both the centerboard and the rudder blade. If your Rhodes travels backwards, you need to prevent unintended contact between the board or the rudder and the bottom (sand, clay or otherwise) or submerged objects, as the kick up features only work when traveling forward.

I know, I know ... this is the voice of experience ...

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Sling via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 10:13 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

I understand wanting to have a dinghy for shore excursions but don't overlook that the design of the Rhodes 22 allows you to "run it up on the beach" if the shore is forgiving enough.? You mention you will be doing lake sailing so this might be possible.? Some have suggested this might not be a good idea due to such concerns as waves bouncing the boat up and down so close to shore hitting the bottom and damaging the swing keel.? However Stan shared that he often beached his boat.? My Lake Hartwell sailing grounds? has many islands with forgiving red clay shores which I take advantage of as lunch hooks.? The swing keel, and ease of raising the motor makes the boat perfect for beaching.? If the drop off is deep enough, there is no reason to raise the motor as you can see in the attached picture.? Joe Riley S/V Daysails? Lake Hartwell SC? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2020 9:52 am
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Feb 24 13:01:24 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:01:24 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <01e801d5eb30$438d7800$caa86800$@ca>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Hi Graham,

I used a small  motor to propel my first dinghy in the early 80's, a Seagull outboard, although it was very "eclectic" not "electric".  I wish that I still had it.  It always started right up and burned almost anything!  See photo below.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:34 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

Beaching the boat is great but not always possible in which case a dingy is necessary. I used an cheap inflatable Sevelor 2 person boat for years and it served us well. I was able to attach a very small eclectic motor that as I recall was an option for the boat that was held on the back with a very simple mechanism. I was surprised that I could run the motor for several hours, as I recall,  off a 12v motorcycle battery. It propelled the boat very efficiently. This not a life boat or a heavy carrier but for moving around a quiet anchorage it was perfect - and cheap.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario

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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Feb 24 13:22:37 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:22:37 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <003101d5eb3c$6e30e180$4a92a480$@ebsmed.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1901979912.5332465.1582557161266@mail.yahoo.com>
 <005601d5eb2c$8608a6e0$9219f4a0$@ebsmed.com>
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Message-ID: <01fd01d5eb3f$65a3ac70$30eb0550$@ca>

I think those fabulous motors are collector items now.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of mweisner at ebsmed.com
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 1:01 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

Hi Graham,

I used a small  motor to propel my first dinghy in the early 80's, a Seagull outboard, although it was very "eclectic" not "electric".  I wish that I still had it.  It always started right up and burned almost anything!  See photo below.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:34 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection

Beaching the boat is great but not always possible in which case a dingy is necessary. I used an cheap inflatable Sevelor 2 person boat for years and it served us well. I was able to attach a very small eclectic motor that as I recall was an option for the boat that was held on the back with a very simple mechanism. I was surprised that I could run the motor for several hours, as I recall,  off a 12v motorcycle battery. It propelled the boat very efficiently. This not a life boat or a heavy carrier but for moving around a quiet anchorage it was perfect - and cheap.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario

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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Feb 24 16:45:26 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:45:26 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <1901979912.5332465.1582557161266@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiWTHQxsx1dEkvbVBpt-ZO4RiaAg5Jd_idKmTpe98FrKtA@mail.gmail.com>

Jesse makes a good point.  I have done the same thing, even on the rocky
and pebbly beaches of Italy and especially Greece.  I drop the stern anchor
and slowly approach the shelving beach, usually it is steep enough than the
bow gently touches the shore and I can step ashore and run a line to a tree
or other secure point.  I unload the pick nick stuff and cold drinks and
then back the boat off the shore a bit so any waves wont bounce the boat.
I usually am in shorts so I don't get too wet getting to shore the 2nd
time.  See pic attached.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Sling via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I understand wanting to have a dinghy for shore excursions but don't
> overlook that the design of the Rhodes 22 allows you to "run it up on the
> beach" if the shore is forgiving enough.  You mention you will be doing lake
> sailing so this might be possible.  Some have suggested this might not be
> a good idea due to such concerns as waves bouncing the boat up and down so
> close to shore hitting the bottom and damaging the swing keel.  However
> Stan shared that he often beached his boat.  My Lake Hartwell sailing
> grounds  has many islands with forgiving red clay shores which I take
> advantage of as lunch hooks.  The swing keel, and ease of raising the motor
> makes the boat perfect for beaching.  If the drop off is deep enough, there
> is no reason to raise the motor as you can see in the attached picture.
>  Joe Riley S/V Daysails  Lake Hartwell SC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2020 9:52 am
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
>
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Feb 24 16:47:23 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:47:23 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <003101d5eb3c$6e30e180$4a92a480$@ebsmed.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1901979912.5332465.1582557161266@mail.yahoo.com>
 <005601d5eb2c$8608a6e0$9219f4a0$@ebsmed.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiWaGtM99KwOzY30w-mA3gZt=+KsiwHf6HMcjTbPUgqa+A@mail.gmail.com>

Yes my first boat had a seagull.  Seems as I recall the oil to gas mixture
was 3 to one.  Smoked like a chimney.
Chris G.
Enosis

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 1:01 PM <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> Hi Graham,
>
> I used a small  motor to propel my first dinghy in the early 80's, a
> Seagull outboard, although it was very "eclectic" not "electric".  I wish
> that I still had it.  It always started right up and burned almost
> anything!  See photo below.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Graham Stewart
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
>
> Beaching the boat is great but not always possible in which case a dingy
> is necessary. I used an cheap inflatable Sevelor 2 person boat for years
> and it served us well. I was able to attach a very small eclectic motor
> that as I recall was an option for the boat that was held on the back with
> a very simple mechanism. I was surprised that I could run the motor for
> several hours, as I recall,  off a 12v motorcycle battery. It propelled the
> boat very efficiently. This not a life boat or a heavy carrier but for
> moving around a quiet anchorage it was perfect - and cheap.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
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From killarneylake at gmail.com  Tue Feb 25 09:10:56 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:10:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <85534B09-5CBF-48FA-8625-7BCD7D6CFB1E@gmail.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1582255881905-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <017d01d5e9bb$885b2b10$99118130$@ca>
 <85534B09-5CBF-48FA-8625-7BCD7D6CFB1E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582639856524-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

The idea of having a tow vehicle on the island is brilliant. Others have
tractors, some gave side by side ATVs but I?d be the only resident with a
truck! I could get something that is 4WD and yet has lost most of it?s value
as a daily driver. It will probably will not even require semi-annual
Ontario registration renewals.

There are a whole host of considerations though for keeping in good
condition a vehicle that will be used as little as twice a year. I?m
thinking: battery, fuel, and corrosion.



--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Tue Feb 25 10:01:41 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:01:41 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Sailer Sails Trailer
In-Reply-To: <1582639856524-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <FF2E8F54-A635-4B2E-A3B8-96A8AFB8192A@gmail.com>
 <1717864981.4331829.1582235673802@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1582255881905-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <017d01d5e9bb$885b2b10$99118130$@ca>
 <85534B09-5CBF-48FA-8625-7BCD7D6CFB1E@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABkv36Z_EJ2-bEXLuPXKdR0jg8vYME6=Z8THhKnGxFX3Jz4FWQ@mail.gmail.com>

It seems you and your fellow islanders need to hire a ferry service to haul
everything over in the Spring, including your boat on the trailer, Then
haul it back in the Autumn.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 9:10 AM KillarneyLake <killarneylake at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The idea of having a tow vehicle on the island is brilliant. Others have
> tractors, some gave side by side ATVs but I?d be the only resident with a
> truck! I could get something that is 4WD and yet has lost most of it?s
> value
> as a daily driver. It will probably will not even require semi-annual
> Ontario registration renewals.
>
> There are a whole host of considerations though for keeping in good
> condition a vehicle that will be used as little as twice a year. I?m
> thinking: battery, fuel, and corrosion.
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Tue Feb 25 16:22:10 2020
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:22:10 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALbDJ9ZZW1SbiP7jKacCJbA3wUJB82E=iJCA2sPO0Dwv7Qr7qQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris

I was on my to Split when the war broke out and we ended up leaving my boat
in Lefkada in 1993. I was independently working in the Middle East so every
summer we had 6-8 weeks off and we spent it with my young kids exploring
Ionia. Loved that area and kind of gunk-holed from Corfu in the North to
Kefalonia in the South for several years. We focussed on areas that the
kids loved so beaches and swimming were a priority. Spent a lot of time in
Paxos and Parga on the mainland. Loved Vliko Bay near Nidri, the island of
Meganissi and Fiskardo on the island of Kefalonia was a favourite. I can't
give you much info about the Peloponnesus as we always transitted from
Ionia to Aegean through the Corinth canal. If you have time, the Ionian is
worthwhile spending some time over. My boat was a Ted Hood designed
Gulfstar 40 and had a lifting centre-board so I was able to get into
anchorages that the charter boats couldn't get to.

~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Richard,
> Perhaps you can offer some insights into the area. Next summer we head
> south around the Peloponnesus then into the Saronic Gulf. Or alternatively,
> we make a quick run through the canal. From there either the inside passage
> through Halkis, the Sporades and jump over to Lesvos and south to Rhodes.
> We could also go through the southern route through the Cyclades. With you
> Knowing the area and the Rhodes I welcome your thoughts. I?ve sailed all
> the routes except for the Peloponnesus. I sailed the Sporades 50 years ago
> and the Cyclades 15 years ago. Hopefully we leave the boat in Turkey.
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:33, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and spent
> > many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.
> >
> >
> > ~~~ _/) ~~~
> >
> > Richard Beytagh
> > Phone: 828 337 0180
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to
> > the
> > > Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was
> about
> > > 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
> > >
> > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > > ENOSIS
> > >
> >
>

From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 11:44:13 2020
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 11:44:13 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALbDJ9a6t0by4PCiZR4Bw_dzvTtNm6XuAJs=e6xq=eZB4gfPHQ@mail.gmail.com>

I was on my way to Split when the war broke out and we ended up leaving my
boat in Lefkada in 1993. I was independently working in the Middle East so
every summer we had 6-8 weeks off and we spent it with my young kids
exploring Ionia. Loved that area and kind of gunk-holed from Corfu in the
North to Kefalonia in the South for several years. We focussed on areas
that the kids loved so beaches and swimming were a priority. Spent a lot of
time in Paxos and Parga on the mainland. Loved Vliko Bay near Nidri, the
island of Meganissi and Fiskardo on the island of Kefalonia was a
favourite. I can't give you much info about the Peloponnesus as we always
transitted from Ionia to Aegean through the Corinth canal. If you have
time, the Ionian is worthwhile spending some time over. My boat was a Ted
Hood designed Gulfstar 40 and had a lifting centre-board so I was able to
get into anchorages that the charter boats couldn't get to.


~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Richard,
> Perhaps you can offer some insights into the area. Next summer we head
> south around the Peloponnesus then into the Saronic Gulf. Or alternatively,
> we make a quick run through the canal. From there either the inside passage
> through Halkis, the Sporades and jump over to Lesvos and south to Rhodes.
> We could also go through the southern route through the Cyclades. With you
> Knowing the area and the Rhodes I welcome your thoughts. I?ve sailed all
> the routes except for the Peloponnesus. I sailed the Sporades 50 years ago
> and the Cyclades 15 years ago. Hopefully we leave the boat in Turkey.
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:33, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and spent
> > many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.
> >
> >
> > ~~~ _/) ~~~
> >
> > Richard Beytagh
> > Phone: 828 337 0180
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over to
> > the
> > > Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was
> about
> > > 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather sailing.
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
> > >
> > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > > ENOSIS
> > >
> >
>

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Wed Feb 26 15:13:36 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 13:13:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
Message-ID: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

All, 

I?m new to the list as of today.  I finally got my own ?76 Rhodes 22 here in
NE Ohio.  I bought mine from someone who had planned to partially bury it in
the ground for his kids to play pirates.  Stan already told me he didn?t
build mine which scared me initially.  My journey to ownership was long.  I
met Stan in person back in 2009 when I was first looking at buying direct
from the plant.  I was stationed just south of Edenton at the time.  I was
hooked, I just couldn?t commit then.  In between, I owned and sailed a
Catalina 18, Com-Pac 23, and a Seaward 24.       

Stan, thanks for designing an outstanding product.  If it was any other boat
I would have ran, but I know the Rhodes' structure and (hopefully contractor
>) quality is solid.  Now it's time for the elbow grease and frequent parts
requests.  

To the others here on the list, I will admit I've been lurking around and
learning from all of you.  I didn't want to join until I had my own Rhodes
though.  Stan already sent my Certificate of Support for which I initially
paid, but now need to upgrade for the CO-OP level of membership.  
Brian




-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed Feb 26 15:50:18 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:50:18 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB69415C1FAB37FC1CD68F0FDDC1EA0@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Brian,
Thanks for the intro and welcome to "da list".  My first Rhodes was a '76 and now I have a  2004 because I wanted the IMF and the furling jib.  Bring on the questions! - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:14 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner

All, 

I?m new to the list as of today.  I finally got my own ?76 Rhodes 22 here in NE Ohio.  I bought mine from someone who had planned to partially bury it in the ground for his kids to play pirates.  Stan already told me he didn?t build mine which scared me initially.  My journey to ownership was long.  I met Stan in person back in 2009 when I was first looking at buying direct from the plant.  I was stationed just south of Edenton at the time.  I was hooked, I just couldn?t commit then.  In between, I owned and sailed a
Catalina 18, Com-Pac 23, and a Seaward 24.       

Stan, thanks for designing an outstanding product.  If it was any other boat I would have ran, but I know the Rhodes' structure and (hopefully contractor
>) quality is solid.  Now it's time for the elbow grease and frequent 
>parts
requests.  

To the others here on the list, I will admit I've been lurking around and learning from all of you.  I didn't want to join until I had my own Rhodes though.  Stan already sent my Certificate of Support for which I initially paid, but now need to upgrade for the CO-OP level of membership.  
Brian




-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 20:55:42 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:55:42 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Part 7 Rhodes in the Med Greece
In-Reply-To: <CALbDJ9a6t0by4PCiZR4Bw_dzvTtNm6XuAJs=e6xq=eZB4gfPHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiX04pnhq9gnksbawY0n1--j912Q1=QkUacYfTJ+bTi1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9ZYBXcWJ_CqgHVVXbaS5adhGwQJL3Frb62pOF8c5ZULzQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiX2eA=Y366Hi13Ge=94isA8WLtP28VOFqUa=zBEbNnn3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALbDJ9a6t0by4PCiZR4Bw_dzvTtNm6XuAJs=e6xq=eZB4gfPHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiU3EheYZ-2gUJLVozF2bxbgG09t8c7iYROiVLMLPRL-ig@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Richard,
                 How wonderful to be able to share such an experience with
your family.  Yes, all those places you mentioned are beautiful and we look
forward to seeing many again and a few for the first time.  Based on time
we will decide if it is through the canal or south around the "fingers".
Either way it will be fun.

Chris Geankoplis
S/V Enosis

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:44 AM Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was on my way to Split when the war broke out and we ended up leaving my
> boat in Lefkada in 1993. I was independently working in the Middle East so
> every summer we had 6-8 weeks off and we spent it with my young kids
> exploring Ionia. Loved that area and kind of gunk-holed from Corfu in the
> North to Kefalonia in the South for several years. We focussed on areas
> that the kids loved so beaches and swimming were a priority. Spent a lot of
> time in Paxos and Parga on the mainland. Loved Vliko Bay near Nidri, the
> island of Meganissi and Fiskardo on the island of Kefalonia was a
> favourite. I can't give you much info about the Peloponnesus as we always
> transitted from Ionia to Aegean through the Corinth canal. If you have
> time, the Ionian is worthwhile spending some time over. My boat was a Ted
> Hood designed Gulfstar 40 and had a lifting centre-board so I was able to
> get into anchorages that the charter boats couldn't get to.
>
>
> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>
> Richard Beytagh
> Phone: 828 337 0180
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> > Perhaps you can offer some insights into the area. Next summer we head
> > south around the Peloponnesus then into the Saronic Gulf. Or
> alternatively,
> > we make a quick run through the canal. From there either the inside
> passage
> > through Halkis, the Sporades and jump over to Lesvos and south to Rhodes.
> > We could also go through the southern route through the Cyclades. With
> you
> > Knowing the area and the Rhodes I welcome your thoughts. I?ve sailed all
> > the routes except for the Peloponnesus. I sailed the Sporades 50 years
> ago
> > and the Cyclades 15 years ago. Hopefully we leave the boat in Turkey.
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > ENOSIS
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:33, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for that Chris. I know that part of the coast very well and
> spent
> > > many years sailing my Gulfstar 40 out of Levkas.
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~~ _/) ~~~
> > >
> > > Richard Beytagh
> > > Phone: 828 337 0180
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So, here is a short account of the trip from the heel of Italy over
> to
> > > the
> > > > Greek Islands in the northern Ionian.  Total length of the trip was
> > about
> > > > 300nm.  We hope you enjoy this sojourn into some warm weather
> sailing.
> > > >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjWeWCJWU-l-Jltr50TLmsVdn4J-Gv9T/view
> > > >
> > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > > > ENOSIS
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 21:00:25 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:00:25 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWApVZ8xqn-ui51L-_JcnWKVuOwx_1OVefqKkT9REWXTw@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome to Da List Brian,
                                           Hey the '76 wasn't a bad
vintage.  I sailed my '76 over the the Bahamas then around the islands for
a couple of months and then back with no problems.  Good luck with your new
boat, lots of folks  standing by to answer any questions.

Chris Geankoplis
S/V Enosis

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:13 PM NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> I?m new to the list as of today.  I finally got my own ?76 Rhodes 22 here
> in
> NE Ohio.  I bought mine from someone who had planned to partially bury it
> in
> the ground for his kids to play pirates.  Stan already told me he didn?t
> build mine which scared me initially.  My journey to ownership was long.  I
> met Stan in person back in 2009 when I was first looking at buying direct
> from the plant.  I was stationed just south of Edenton at the time.  I was
> hooked, I just couldn?t commit then.  In between, I owned and sailed a
> Catalina 18, Com-Pac 23, and a Seaward 24.
>
> Stan, thanks for designing an outstanding product.  If it was any other
> boat
> I would have ran, but I know the Rhodes' structure and (hopefully
> contractor
> >) quality is solid.  Now it's time for the elbow grease and frequent parts
> requests.
>
> To the others here on the list, I will admit I've been lurking around and
> learning from all of you.  I didn't want to join until I had my own Rhodes
> though.  Stan already sent my Certificate of Support for which I initially
> paid, but now need to upgrade for the CO-OP level of membership.
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Wed Feb 26 21:36:01 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:36:01 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR05MB69415C1FAB37FC1CD68F0FDDC1EA0@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <MN2PR05MB69415C1FAB37FC1CD68F0FDDC1EA0@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <02a901d5ed16$a871ee80$f955cb80$@ca>

Welcome Brian. I too have a 76 Rhodes which I have restored extensively over the last while. I have posted to the list a fair bit of information about the restoration as I went along - it took about 6 years - so I would be happy to discuss anything about the restoration with you.
All the best,
Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:50 PM
To: NewIn76; The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner

Brian,
Thanks for the intro and welcome to "da list".  My first Rhodes was a '76 and now I have a  2004 because I wanted the IMF and the furling jib.  Bring on the questions! - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:14 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner

All, 

I?m new to the list as of today.  I finally got my own ?76 Rhodes 22 here in NE Ohio.  I bought mine from someone who had planned to partially bury it in the ground for his kids to play pirates.  Stan already told me he didn?t build mine which scared me initially.  My journey to ownership was long.  I met Stan in person back in 2009 when I was first looking at buying direct from the plant.  I was stationed just south of Edenton at the time.  I was hooked, I just couldn?t commit then.  In between, I owned and sailed a
Catalina 18, Com-Pac 23, and a Seaward 24.       

Stan, thanks for designing an outstanding product.  If it was any other boat I would have ran, but I know the Rhodes' structure and (hopefully contractor
>) quality is solid.  Now it's time for the elbow grease and frequent 
>parts
requests.  

To the others here on the list, I will admit I've been lurking around and learning from all of you.  I didn't want to join until I had my own Rhodes though.  Stan already sent my Certificate of Support for which I initially paid, but now need to upgrade for the CO-OP level of membership.  
Brian




-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 09:52:30 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 09:52:30 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36bqMAtX_eCk_tRW=-rXayH0R_j6ectL+HDz_CNq7iwTTA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian,

Where do you plan to sail?

Regards,

Rick Lange at Forest City YC


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:13 PM NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> I?m new to the list as of today.  I finally got my own ?76 Rhodes 22 here
> in
> NE Ohio.  I bought mine from someone who had planned to partially bury it
> in
> the ground for his kids to play pirates.  Stan already told me he didn?t
> build mine which scared me initially.  My journey to ownership was long.  I
> met Stan in person back in 2009 when I was first looking at buying direct
> from the plant.  I was stationed just south of Edenton at the time.  I was
> hooked, I just couldn?t commit then.  In between, I owned and sailed a
> Catalina 18, Com-Pac 23, and a Seaward 24.
>
> Stan, thanks for designing an outstanding product.  If it was any other
> boat
> I would have ran, but I know the Rhodes' structure and (hopefully
> contractor
> >) quality is solid.  Now it's time for the elbow grease and frequent parts
> requests.
>
> To the others here on the list, I will admit I've been lurking around and
> learning from all of you.  I didn't want to join until I had my own Rhodes
> though.  Stan already sent my Certificate of Support for which I initially
> paid, but now need to upgrade for the CO-OP level of membership.
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Thu Feb 27 12:53:08 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:53:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36bqMAtX_eCk_tRW=-rXayH0R_j6ectL+HDz_CNq7iwTTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36bqMAtX_eCk_tRW=-rXayH0R_j6ectL+HDz_CNq7iwTTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582825988582-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Rick,
For now, I'm looking to sail at Mosquito Lake.  Eventually.  Lots of things
need to happen before that though.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Thu Feb 27 13:03:12 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:03:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <02a901d5ed16$a871ee80$f955cb80$@ca>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <MN2PR05MB69415C1FAB37FC1CD68F0FDDC1EA0@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <02a901d5ed16$a871ee80$f955cb80$@ca>
Message-ID: <1582826592561-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Graham,
If I had bought this boat ten years ago I could have sailed over to you when
I was stationed in Watertown.  I consider this boat to be a diamond in the
rough, maybe.  I only paid a thousand and that's what i have to look at. 
The nice thing is that in those 40 years, there's been no tinkering or
modifications done.  I literally just have a barn-find.  Old, but complete. 
I think I'm the third owner.  The original Penna. owner, then a guy who
bought it at auction (or an estate sale), then me.  I'm going to post my
questions separate under different subject lines.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Thu Feb 27 13:59:14 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:59:14 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582826592561-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <MN2PR05MB69415C1FAB37FC1CD68F0FDDC1EA0@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <02a901d5ed16$a871ee80$f955cb80$@ca> <1582826592561-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <02de01d5eda0$03fe5ed0$0bfb1c70$@ca>

Brian:
Sounds like a good deal. Was the boat sheltered to whole time?
One thing you might want to check is whether the U bots on the transom have
nuts installed. Mine didn't and I understand that was not uncommon with the
subcontracted boats.

Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 1:03 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner

Graham,
If I had bought this boat ten years ago I could have sailed over to you when
I was stationed in Watertown.  I consider this boat to be a diamond in the
rough, maybe.  I only paid a thousand and that's what i have to look at. 
The nice thing is that in those 40 years, there's been no tinkering or
modifications done.  I literally just have a barn-find.  Old, but complete. 
I think I'm the third owner.  The original Penna. owner, then a guy who
bought it at auction (or an estate sale), then me.  I'm going to post my
questions separate under different subject lines.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 14:37:38 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 14:37:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582825988582-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36bqMAtX_eCk_tRW=-rXayH0R_j6ectL+HDz_CNq7iwTTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1582825988582-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXH+ZL2tvZ_qL=DrU_R49DThiZ_LyfJ85B2s8bQ4bxXAQ@mail.gmail.com>

So Brian, what is your vin number? You might have my old ?76. I heard it
went to AZ then ?somewhere in the Midwest?.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 12:53, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Rick,
> For now, I'm looking to sail at Mosquito Lake.  Eventually.  Lots of things
> need to happen before that though.
>
>
>
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Feb 27 14:48:55 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:48:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>

who has the oldest R22 ?? when was the first R22 built ??

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Thu Feb 27 15:07:56 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:07:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXH+ZL2tvZ_qL=DrU_R49DThiZ_LyfJ85B2s8bQ4bxXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36bqMAtX_eCk_tRW=-rXayH0R_j6ectL+HDz_CNq7iwTTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1582825988582-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CADNTwiXH+ZL2tvZ_qL=DrU_R49DThiZ_LyfJ85B2s8bQ4bxXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1582834076515-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Chris,
I'm not sure this one ever left Pennsylvania until I brought it to Ohio. 
GBX220027B76.  Technically older than me personally by a few months.  I
pulled a vessel history report similar to CarFax, but can't seem to find it.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Thu Feb 27 15:28:44 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:28:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1582834076515-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CABkv36bqMAtX_eCk_tRW=-rXayH0R_j6ectL+HDz_CNq7iwTTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1582825988582-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CADNTwiXH+ZL2tvZ_qL=DrU_R49DThiZ_LyfJ85B2s8bQ4bxXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <1582834076515-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1582835324779-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Does the name Arthur Shriver ring a bell for anyone?  He was the last person
to register the boat.  He wasn't the person I bought it from though. 



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Feb 27 15:56:53 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:56:53 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002401d5edb0$7166b0c0$54341240$@ebsmed.com>

Please take a look at the "Hull Numbers" writeup on our site, circa 1998, http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/hull1.html

or a detailed discussion on the list from 2013:
http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074193.html

a bit of history about GB & hull origins can be found at:
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20130708/5528c256/attachment.pdf

We have had many discussions on the list about the oldest R22:
http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074155.html

or, even in 2005:
	Date: Wed Apr  6 10:03:17 2005
	`Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scott's project
	In-Reply-To: <8C708BEC4CE43AF-B54-4BE4 at mblk-r25.sysops.aol.com>
	Message-ID: <001001c53ab1$52f2e680$6500a8c0 at user6m0z74bsst>
	
	Scott:
		There is no need to take details off list.  We all enjoy following a
	restoration project.  We had to convince Lou to post his progress (Hey Lou).
	There are others on this list who may be doing similar things or have done
	them.  Their comments might be of benefit to you.  Also, your restoration
	(1972) is the oldest that I am aware of. That is unless someone bought that
	Sailmaster that was for sale last year on eBay.
	Ed K
	Greenville, SC, USA

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Mark West via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:49 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22

who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ? 


From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Fri Feb 28 10:06:24 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 10:06:24 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
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The pdf had to be written by Elton.  What a hoot!

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:57 PM <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> Please take a look at the "Hull Numbers" writeup on our site, circa 1998,
> http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/hull1.html
>
> or a detailed discussion on the list from 2013:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074193.html
>
> a bit of history about GB & hull origins can be found at:
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20130708/5528c256/attachment.pdf
>
> We have had many discussions on the list about the oldest R22:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074155.html
>
> or, even in 2005:
>         Date: Wed Apr  6 10:03:17 2005
>         `Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scott's project
>         In-Reply-To: <8C708BEC4CE43AF-B54-4BE4 at mblk-r25.sysops.aol.com>
>         Message-ID: <001001c53ab1$52f2e680$6500a8c0 at user6m0z74bsst>
>
>         Scott:
>                 There is no need to take details off list.  We all enjoy
> following a
>         restoration project.  We had to convince Lou to post his progress
> (Hey Lou).
>         There are others on this list who may be doing similar things or
> have done
>         them.  Their comments might be of benefit to you.  Also, your
> restoration
>         (1972) is the oldest that I am aware of. That is unless someone
> bought that
>         Sailmaster that was for sale last year on eBay.
>         Ed K
>         Greenville, SC, USA
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Mark West via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
>
> who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
>
>

From rlowe at vt.edu  Fri Feb 28 10:12:50 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:12:50 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
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References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <002401d5edb0$7166b0c0$54341240$@ebsmed.com>
 <CABkv36YbMet13iOcD4_f2DzCgda+F-QkqWPyqFG07iRy87_vVQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah, that's quite a find.  Can't say I've ever seen that before. - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Rick Lange
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 10:06 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22

The pdf had to be written by Elton.  What a hoot!

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:57 PM <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> Please take a look at the "Hull Numbers" writeup on our site, circa 
> 1998, http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/hull1.html
>
> or a detailed discussion on the list from 2013:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074193.html
>
> a bit of history about GB & hull origins can be found at:
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20130708/5
> 528c256/attachment.pdf
>
> We have had many discussions on the list about the oldest R22:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074155.html
>
> or, even in 2005:
>         Date: Wed Apr  6 10:03:17 2005
>         `Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scott's project
>         In-Reply-To: <8C708BEC4CE43AF-B54-4BE4 at mblk-r25.sysops.aol.com>
>         Message-ID: <001001c53ab1$52f2e680$6500a8c0 at user6m0z74bsst>
>
>         Scott:
>                 There is no need to take details off list.  We all 
> enjoy following a
>         restoration project.  We had to convince Lou to post his 
> progress (Hey Lou).
>         There are others on this list who may be doing similar things 
> or have done
>         them.  Their comments might be of benefit to you.  Also, your 
> restoration
>         (1972) is the oldest that I am aware of. That is unless 
> someone bought that
>         Sailmaster that was for sale last year on eBay.
>         Ed K
>         Greenville, SC, USA
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of 
> Mark West via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
>
> who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
>
>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Feb 28 10:40:15 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 10:40:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36YbMet13iOcD4_f2DzCgda+F-QkqWPyqFG07iRy87_vVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <002401d5edb0$7166b0c0$54341240$@ebsmed.com>
 <CABkv36YbMet13iOcD4_f2DzCgda+F-QkqWPyqFG07iRy87_vVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018b01d5ee4d$601180f0$203482d0$@ebsmed.com>

I believe that the "A bit of History" was written by Stan.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Rick Lange
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 10:06 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22

The pdf had to be written by Elton.  What a hoot!

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:57 PM <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> Please take a look at the "Hull Numbers" writeup on our site, circa 
> 1998, http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/hull1.html
>
> or a detailed discussion on the list from 2013:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074193.html
>
> a bit of history about GB & hull origins can be found at:
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20130708/5
> 528c256/attachment.pdf
>
> We have had many discussions on the list about the oldest R22:
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2013-July/074155.html
>
> or, even in 2005:
>         Date: Wed Apr  6 10:03:17 2005
>         `Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scott's project
>         In-Reply-To: <8C708BEC4CE43AF-B54-4BE4 at mblk-r25.sysops.aol.com>
>         Message-ID: <001001c53ab1$52f2e680$6500a8c0 at user6m0z74bsst>
>
>         Scott:
>                 There is no need to take details off list.  We all 
> enjoy following a
>         restoration project.  We had to convince Lou to post his 
> progress (Hey Lou).
>         There are others on this list who may be doing similar things 
> or have done
>         them.  Their comments might be of benefit to you.  Also, your 
> restoration
>         (1972) is the oldest that I am aware of. That is unless 
> someone bought that
>         Sailmaster that was for sale last year on eBay.
>         Ed K
>         Greenville, SC, USA
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of 
> Mark West via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
>
> who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
>
>


From mike at traildesign.com  Sat Feb 29 19:45:05 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 19:45:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <4D2A4ACD-52EC-4493-A4D7-972197F668F9@gmail.com>
References: <a1d984fd-7e5c-1c96-f254-b4414fca3693@generalboats.com>
 <4D2A4ACD-52EC-4493-A4D7-972197F668F9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo-88r2qdDr4PikU-FQ=yG+AXUv17+5+XOU3aUGq03xjMA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Stan. I sent you the broken stay along with the turnbuckle just over 3
weeks ago and haven?t heard anything back yet. Any idea when I can expect
the new stay (with my turnbuckle) and the replacement headsail?

Spring is just around the corner!

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM Mike <traildesignspecialists at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The cable separated at the bottom of the stay where it goes into the
> fitting.
>
> > On Feb 1, 2020, at 3:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > and still would like to know if the damage to the shroud is at the top
> or bottom fitting - or elsewhere
> >
> > stan
> >
> >> On 2/1/20 3:49 PM, stan wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike, OK, I have been corrected.  You have a damaged shroud, not
> forestay.  So all comments re the forestay are mute.
> >>
> >> I understand it is an upper shroud.  We will still need to make one to
> match its turnbuckle threading so best we have that turnbuckle first.
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >>
> >
>
-- 
Michael Riter
President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021