From stan at generalboats.com  Sun Mar  1 10:21:11 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 10:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
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sorry to hear that since it was one the few shipping tasks small enough 
for me to manage myself these days.? I, took it to the PO, I think it 
was Wednesday.? I asked to buy one of their shipping boxes they promote 
on TV but they insisted on sending it in the plastic bag you used to 
send it to us. I gave them "from" and "to" labels that they taped on and 
I swiped my card and left.? It was not returned to me.? Hope there was 
no other printed addresses on that bag. ? Give them a few more days.

On 2/29/20 7:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> Hey Stan. I sent you the broken stay along with the turnbuckle just over 3
> weeks ago and haven?t heard anything back yet. Any idea when I can expect
> the new stay (with my turnbuckle) and the replacement headsail?
>
> Spring is just around the corner!
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM Mike <traildesignspecialists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The cable separated at the bottom of the stay where it goes into the
>> fitting.
>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2020, at 3:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> and still would like to know if the damage to the shroud is at the top
>> or bottom fitting - or elsewhere
>>> stan
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/20 3:49 PM, stan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mike, OK, I have been corrected.  You have a damaged shroud, not
>> forestay.  So all comments re the forestay are mute.
>>>> I understand it is an upper shroud.  We will still need to make one to
>> match its turnbuckle threading so best we have that turnbuckle first.
>>>> stan
>>>>
>>>>


From dlet3 at aol.com  Sun Mar  1 11:36:11 2020
From: dlet3 at aol.com (Dana LeTendre)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 10:36:11 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <3f2d9541-7219-60a3-e705-5bd1b3867d5e@generalboats.com>
References: <3f2d9541-7219-60a3-e705-5bd1b3867d5e@generalboats.com>
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Stan,

     I think you sent the message below to me by mistake, instead of sending it to Mike (I don?t recall his last name).  He?s the one who also needs repair to his headsail.  He also wanted a new turnbuckle to go with his stay.  I just need to get two stays with the CLOCKWISE TIGHTEN threaded stem, no turnbuckles.  Have you received the replacement parts yet?

Later,

Dana

Sent from my iPad
????????

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:21 AM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 

?
sorry to hear that since it was one the few shipping tasks small enough for me to manage myself these days.  I, took it to the PO, I think it was Wednesday.  I asked to buy one of their shipping boxes they promote on TV but they insisted on sending it in the plastic bag you used to send it to us. I gave them "from" and "to" labels that they taped on and I swiped my card and left.  It was not returned to me.  Hope there was no other printed addresses on that bag.   Give them a few more days.

> On 2/29/20 7:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> Hey Stan. I sent you the broken stay along with the turnbuckle just over 3
> weeks ago and haven?t heard anything back yet. Any idea when I can expect
> the new stay (with my turnbuckle) and the replacement headsail?
> 
> Spring is just around the corner!
> 
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM Mike <traildesignspecialists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> The cable separated at the bottom of the stay where it goes into the
>> fitting.
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2020, at 3:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> and still would like to know if the damage to the shroud is at the top
>> or bottom fitting - or elsewhere
>>> stan
>>> 
>>>> On 2/1/20 3:49 PM, stan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mike, OK, I have been corrected.  You have a damaged shroud, not
>> forestay.  So all comments re the forestay are mute.
>>>> I understand it is an upper shroud.  We will still need to make one to
>> match its turnbuckle threading so best we have that turnbuckle first.
>>>> stan
>>>> 
>>>> 



From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  1 12:10:45 2020
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (jfn302 at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 11:10:45 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <E3A06160-AF95-426D-BAA2-56D62E3D0F04@aol.com>
References: <3f2d9541-7219-60a3-e705-5bd1b3867d5e@generalboats.com>
 <E3A06160-AF95-426D-BAA2-56D62E3D0F04@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4be001d5efec$594d82f0$0be888d0$@yahoo.com>

Dana,

The messages were sent to the group in general. ?

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Dana LeTendre via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 10:36 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay

Stan,

     I think you sent the message below to me by mistake, instead of sending it to Mike (I don?t recall his last name).  He?s the one who also needs repair to his headsail.  He also wanted a new turnbuckle to go with his stay.  I just need to get two stays with the CLOCKWISE TIGHTEN threaded stem, no turnbuckles.  Have you received the replacement parts yet?

Later,

Dana

Sent from my iPad
????????

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:21 AM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 

?
sorry to hear that since it was one the few shipping tasks small enough for me to manage myself these days.  I, took it to the PO, I think it was Wednesday.  I asked to buy one of their shipping boxes they promote on TV but they insisted on sending it in the plastic bag you used to send it to us. I gave them "from" and "to" labels that they taped on and I swiped my card and left.  It was not returned to me.  Hope there was no other printed addresses on that bag.   Give them a few more days.

> On 2/29/20 7:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> Hey Stan. I sent you the broken stay along with the turnbuckle just 
> over 3 weeks ago and haven?t heard anything back yet. Any idea when I 
> can expect the new stay (with my turnbuckle) and the replacement headsail?
> 
> Spring is just around the corner!
> 
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM Mike 
> <traildesignspecialists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> The cable separated at the bottom of the stay where it goes into the 
>> fitting.
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2020, at 3:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> and still would like to know if the damage to the shroud is at the 
>>> top
>> or bottom fitting - or elsewhere
>>> stan
>>> 
>>>> On 2/1/20 3:49 PM, stan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mike, OK, I have been corrected.  You have a damaged shroud, not
>> forestay.  So all comments re the forestay are mute.
>>>> I understand it is an upper shroud.  We will still need to make one 
>>>> to
>> match its turnbuckle threading so best we have that turnbuckle first.
>>>> stan
>>>> 
>>>> 




From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Mar  1 13:38:14 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 11:38:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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Thanks to everyone who provided input on this thread.  

I'm hesitant to try beaching my R22 in unfamiliar waters.  A lot of the
lakes that I'll be visiting have rocky shores.  I'd rather be cautious and
use a dinghy instead.

I'm planning on going with the inflatable kayak.   I'm leaning towards
getting a tandem kayak and supplementing that with the inflatable paddle
board that I already have in case I need room for 3 people.  Of course, 2
trips to shore could ferry over 3 people. 

The advanced elements kayak that Mary Lou used looks quite nice but is more
than I would like to spend.  
I'm debating between the Sea Eagle (either the 330 or 370) and the Driftsun
Voyager 2.  The 370 is longer, with a bigger carrying capacity and could
actually carry up to 3 people.  All these models get good reviews.  The Sea
Eagle models are a little heavier and have inflatable seats, where the
Voyager has solid seats.  The "deluxe seats" on the Sea Eagle sit a bit
higher which might be more comfortable.

The Driftsun is shorter and fairly flat so I may be able to store that
upside down on the foredeck and cabintop if I wanted to leave it inflated
and didn't want to tow it from the R22, though towing with a bridle attached
to the two U bolts on the stern would probably be simplest. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/>  
https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-Person-Inflatable-Sport/dp/B000SL0A6A/
<https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-Person-Inflatable-Sport/dp/B000SL0A6A/>  
https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-SE370-Inflatable-Package/dp/B001ASRVDK/
<https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-SE370-Inflatable-Package/dp/B001ASRVDK/>  

I haven't made a decision yet, but I'll be sure to report back on whatever I
get once I use it this summer.  Any other words of wisdom are welcome. 
Thanks!



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From mike at traildesign.com  Sun Mar  1 18:07:57 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 18:07:57 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <1583087894705-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Hey Jesse. I might be weighing here after you?ve already made up your mind,
but I kinda went through the same scenario when figuring out our boat to
shore needs. I ended up going with the Mariner 4 inflatable. I wanted
something big enough for my wife and I plus our golden retriever. It came
with a set of oars (and working oarlocks) which work fine, but I wanted a
little easier maneuverability. I got the optional motor mount and put a 55#
thrust trolling motor on it I got on Craig?s list. I also installed a group
27 interstate marine battery. With the 3 of us in it, the trolling motor
moves us around great and just fast enough to feel like your going to get
where you?re going.

I made up a tow bridle for it and secured it to the starboard side so it
would interfere with the motor when we ran it, and tested it out over a 3
day period while anchored on a lake in GA. I made several trips to shore
every day running between half and full throttle, all on the same charge.

Later we took our R22 on a trip to Key West and spent 12 days sailing
around the islands and snorkeling on the reefs down there. We anchored
almost the entire time. I was able to keep the dinghy battery charged using
the 125 watt solar panel I installed on the boat. It was pretty awesome to
anchor off an island, load up the dinghy and go exploring. I?ve been using
this set up for 2 years now and it?s worked like a charm. One of the very
big pluses has turned out to be the rub rail and keel protection it has on
it. Grounding it on beaches and concrete boat ramps can be tough on an
inflatable hull. It?s a very durable little dinghy for the money.

I?ve attached a photo of the dinghy from the key west trip.

SV Emma B





On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who provided input on this thread.
>
> I'm hesitant to try beaching my R22 in unfamiliar waters.  A lot of the
> lakes that I'll be visiting have rocky shores.  I'd rather be cautious and
> use a dinghy instead.
>
> I'm planning on going with the inflatable kayak.   I'm leaning towards
> getting a tandem kayak and supplementing that with the inflatable paddle
> board that I already have in case I need room for 3 people.  Of course, 2
> trips to shore could ferry over 3 people.
>
> The advanced elements kayak that Mary Lou used looks quite nice but is more
> than I would like to spend.
> I'm debating between the Sea Eagle (either the 330 or 370) and the Driftsun
> Voyager 2.  The 370 is longer, with a bigger carrying capacity and could
> actually carry up to 3 people.  All these models get good reviews.  The Sea
> Eagle models are a little heavier and have inflatable seats, where the
> Voyager has solid seats.  The "deluxe seats" on the Sea Eagle sit a bit
> higher which might be more comfortable.
>
> The Driftsun is shorter and fairly flat so I may be able to store that
> upside down on the foredeck and cabintop if I wanted to leave it inflated
> and didn't want to tow it from the R22, though towing with a bridle
> attached
> to the two U bolts on the stern would probably be simplest.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072JHDN9M/>
> https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-Person-Inflatable-Sport/dp/B000SL0A6A/
> <https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-Person-Inflatable-Sport/dp/B000SL0A6A/>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-SE370-Inflatable-Package/dp/B001ASRVDK/
> <https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Eagle-SE370-Inflatable-Package/dp/B001ASRVDK/>
>
>
> I haven't made a decision yet, but I'll be sure to report back on whatever
> I
> get once I use it this summer.  Any other words of wisdom are welcome.
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Mar  1 20:02:51 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 18:02:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
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Hi Mike, thanks for chiming in.  I haven't made a decision yet since I
planned to hold off for a bit in case some more insight from the group might
sway my opinion.  A lot of people on this list have experimented with
different options so it's good to hear what has and hasn't worked for
others.

I had seen the Mariner 4 on Amazon when looking through options.  It gets
great reviews and is very affordable.  It is helpful to hear your
perspective since you have used it as a tender for the R22.  I plan on just
using paddles/oars for whatever I end up getting for the trips in the
foreseeable future, but it would be nice to have future flexibility to add a
motor mount for a trolling motor for some longer trips down the road.  I see
that there is a Mariner 3 as well which technically could hold 3 people but
looks like that would be a squeeze, especially while rowing.  

I plan to use this for me and one or two other people.

The mariner 3 is about double the weight of the kayaks I was looking at, and
the mariner 4 is a bit more than that.  I was trying to stay on the light
side so I could easily store it in the boat while trailering.

The foot pump on the Sea Eagle seems like it would be easier on the back
than the pump that comes with the others.  However, I have an 12V electric
pump that I got for my stand up paddle board so as long as I pump up the
dinghy by the vehicle (I wouldn't want to drain the battery on my R22 by
doing that) then the manual pump isn't a big factor.

How compact is the Mariner 4 when stored?  I live in a condo with limited
storage space so that is a factor.  

Thanks for all the info!



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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sun Mar  1 21:00:18 2020
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 02:00:18 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
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Hi Brian

Welcome to the list!  My Rhodes 22 was also built in 1976.  I?ve owned my boat since 1987.  There is a huge wealth of data in the archives.  But, I?m looking forward to your questions.

Roger Pihlaja 
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2020, at 3:13 PM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?All, 
> 
> I?m new to the list as of today.  I finally got my own ?76 Rhodes 22 here in
> NE Ohio.  I bought mine from someone who had planned to partially bury it in
> the ground for his kids to play pirates.  Stan already told me he didn?t
> build mine which scared me initially.  My journey to ownership was long.  I
> met Stan in person back in 2009 when I was first looking at buying direct
> from the plant.  I was stationed just south of Edenton at the time.  I was
> hooked, I just couldn?t commit then.  In between, I owned and sailed a
> Catalina 18, Com-Pac 23, and a Seaward 24.       
> 
> Stan, thanks for designing an outstanding product.  If it was any other boat
> I would have ran, but I know the Rhodes' structure and (hopefully contractor
>> ) quality is solid.  Now it's time for the elbow grease and frequent parts
> requests.  
> 
> To the others here on the list, I will admit I've been lurking around and
> learning from all of you.  I didn't want to join until I had my own Rhodes
> though.  Stan already sent my Certificate of Support for which I initially
> paid, but now need to upgrade for the CO-OP level of membership.  
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From stan at generalboats.com  Sun Mar  1 22:21:15 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 22:21:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <E3A06160-AF95-426D-BAA2-56D62E3D0F04@aol.com>
References: <3f2d9541-7219-60a3-e705-5bd1b3867d5e@generalboats.com>
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Message-ID: <6bc5e136-89b5-66cc-d3b6-c56ba327c8d2@generalboats.com>


Mike got my response, I was just responding to his mail which he sent to 
me via the List.? He is sending his followup emails to general boat now 
directly to stan at generalboats.com.

However, with Dana and I having the attention of so many brains, we have 
a rigging hangup.? Dana, who sails in Belize, where rigging shops are 
scarce, wanted clockwise tightening on two shrouds we are sending him.? 
We were down to our last one so ordered a batch from our supplier.? But 
while they arrived marked R, in each of the misc. bodies we had in our 
50 year collection, the thread swage-on-fittings they sent, while marked 
R, tightened counter clockwise. (No problem with the fork ends that 
swaged to the top end of the 1/8" shroud wire.) So:

1.??? Looking down on the top of a turnbuckle /barrel/ wouldn't the R 
designation of the /threaded studs/ swaged at the bottom end of a stay, 
indicate clockwise barrel rotation?

2.??? Does the /barrel/ itself also have to be ordered as one designed 
for the tightening direction wanted?? We turned the /barrel/ upside down 
and the R /threaded stud/ would not thread into the other end of the 
/barrel/, in /either/ direction, in any of the /barrels/ (turnbuckle 
bodies) in our collection.

3.??? And finally all of your boats use a threaded toggle jaw at the 
chain plate end of each stay's turnbuckle.? I assume these also have to 
be ordered to match the clockwise or counter direction wanted from the 
assembly?

No question about all this for 60 years; the rigging came to us as 
complete assemblies.? Now in the parts business, we have to learn about 
the parts that make up the turnbuckles.?? Dana would like to just order 
stays with threaded ends so he can use them with his existing 
turnbuckles on his 81.? We are inventoried to do this but now are 
concerned as to whether they will work with his current turnbuckles.

If no easy way out than Dana finding out the hard way, we will call 
Hayn, our supplier late tomorrow.? My lazy way out is just to buy the 
barrel and threaded toggle that go with the swaged studs we already 
purchased from them.

Just wanted to give you all a break from floating trailers, which I like 
since you can retrieve from shorter ramps.

stan


On 3/1/20 11:36 AM, Dana LeTendre via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> Stan,
>
>       I think you sent the message below to me by mistake, instead of sending it to Mike (I don?t recall his last name).  He?s the one who also needs repair to his headsail.  He also wanted a new turnbuckle to go with his stay.  I just need to get two stays with the CLOCKWISE TIGHTEN threaded stem, no turnbuckles.  Have you received the replacement parts yet?
>
> Later,
>
> Dana
>
>


From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  2 10:23:11 2020
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (jfn302 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 09:23:11 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <6bc5e136-89b5-66cc-d3b6-c56ba327c8d2@generalboats.com>
References: <3f2d9541-7219-60a3-e705-5bd1b3867d5e@generalboats.com>
 <E3A06160-AF95-426D-BAA2-56D62E3D0F04@aol.com>
 <6bc5e136-89b5-66cc-d3b6-c56ba327c8d2@generalboats.com>
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Stan,

>From the way I understood them to be is that they should always be right=tighten.  Unless they are installed upside down.

All the barrels are threaded the same, they pretty much only vary based on diameter of the thread, material and whether they are pipe or open.

Every barrel has a left hand and a right hand threading in it so that when the barrel is turned one way, they pull against each other and when you turn the other way, they spread apart.  It is the end fittings that determine the overall application.

The end affixed to the deck is the end that should be threaded normal to where you can hold it vertically in your fist and turn the barrel clockwise to tighten it.  

The swage end should be reverse threaded and go into the top of the barrel.  

When dealing with the individual pieces the reverse threaded end just feels wrong, but once you have the three pieces together, it all kind of makes sense.

As for the R stamp, probably means reverse threaded because they probably make a swage to swage turnbuckle and have to have swages that are reverse threaded and ones that aren?t.  But every manufacture is different and not all of them mark the threading of the ends.

Hope that helps.

James


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:21 PM
To: Dana LeTendre <dlet3 at aol.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay


Mike got my response, I was just responding to his mail which he sent to me via the List.  He is sending his followup emails to general boat now directly to stan at generalboats.com.

However, with Dana and I having the attention of so many brains, we have a rigging hangup.  Dana, who sails in Belize, where rigging shops are scarce, wanted clockwise tightening on two shrouds we are sending him. We were down to our last one so ordered a batch from our supplier.  But while they arrived marked R, in each of the misc. bodies we had in our
50 year collection, the thread swage-on-fittings they sent, while marked R, tightened counter clockwise. (No problem with the fork ends that swaged to the top end of the 1/8" shroud wire.) So:

1.    Looking down on the top of a turnbuckle /barrel/ wouldn't the R designation of the /threaded studs/ swaged at the bottom end of a stay, indicate clockwise barrel rotation?

2.    Does the /barrel/ itself also have to be ordered as one designed for the tightening direction wanted?  We turned the /barrel/ upside down and the R /threaded stud/ would not thread into the other end of the /barrel/, in /either/ direction, in any of the /barrels/ (turnbuckle
bodies) in our collection.

3.    And finally all of your boats use a threaded toggle jaw at the chain plate end of each stay's turnbuckle.  I assume these also have to be ordered to match the clockwise or counter direction wanted from the assembly?

No question about all this for 60 years; the rigging came to us as complete assemblies.  Now in the parts business, we have to learn about the parts that make up the turnbuckles.   Dana would like to just order stays with threaded ends so he can use them with his existing turnbuckles on his 81.  We are inventoried to do this but now are concerned as to whether they will work with his current turnbuckles.

If no easy way out than Dana finding out the hard way, we will call Hayn, our supplier late tomorrow.  My lazy way out is just to buy the barrel and threaded toggle that go with the swaged studs we already purchased from them.

Just wanted to give you all a break from floating trailers, which I like since you can retrieve from shorter ramps.

stan


On 3/1/20 11:36 AM, Dana LeTendre via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> Stan,
>
>       I think you sent the message below to me by mistake, instead of sending it to Mike (I don?t recall his last name).  He?s the one who also needs repair to his headsail.  He also wanted a new turnbuckle to go with his stay.  I just need to get two stays with the CLOCKWISE TIGHTEN threaded stem, no turnbuckles.  Have you received the replacement parts yet?
>
> Later,
>
> Dana
>
>



From mike at traildesign.com  Mon Mar  2 14:31:41 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 14:31:41 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <1583110971375-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <E192937D-97A8-4B6B-9517-F19A15F3B9B4@gmail.com>
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When I got my Mariner 4 I was surprised at the small size of the box it
came in. In my head I was saying it will never be that small again. It
comes with a carrying bag and despite all the bad reviews about it, I've
never had a problem with it. I don't break down the oars, but the boat does
fit into the carry bag just fine making it about 2.5' on the sides and
about a foot tall. Mine lives in the bag in the v-berth on the Rhodes. Set
up and take down with the manual pump takes about 10 minutes once you've
done it a time or two. It does have four separate chambers and if you have
any hope of getting it back in the storage bag you do have to pump out all
the air. After that, tri-fold into the middle length wise and then fold end
for end. I did add a strap around the middle to hold it folded up while I
shoved it in the bag.


Mike Riter
SV Emma B



On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:02 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike, thanks for chiming in.  I haven't made a decision yet since I
> planned to hold off for a bit in case some more insight from the group
> might
> sway my opinion.  A lot of people on this list have experimented with
> different options so it's good to hear what has and hasn't worked for
> others.
>
> I had seen the Mariner 4 on Amazon when looking through options.  It gets
> great reviews and is very affordable.  It is helpful to hear your
> perspective since you have used it as a tender for the R22.  I plan on just
> using paddles/oars for whatever I end up getting for the trips in the
> foreseeable future, but it would be nice to have future flexibility to add
> a
> motor mount for a trolling motor for some longer trips down the road.  I
> see
> that there is a Mariner 3 as well which technically could hold 3 people but
> looks like that would be a squeeze, especially while rowing.
>
> I plan to use this for me and one or two other people.
>
> The mariner 3 is about double the weight of the kayaks I was looking at,
> and
> the mariner 4 is a bit more than that.  I was trying to stay on the light
> side so I could easily store it in the boat while trailering.
>
> The foot pump on the Sea Eagle seems like it would be easier on the back
> than the pump that comes with the others.  However, I have an 12V electric
> pump that I got for my stand up paddle board so as long as I pump up the
> dinghy by the vehicle (I wouldn't want to drain the battery on my R22 by
> doing that) then the manual pump isn't a big factor.
>
> How compact is the Mariner 4 when stored?  I live in a condo with limited
> storage space so that is a factor.
>
> Thanks for all the info!
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From allynb at adsne.com  Tue Mar  3 06:08:16 2020
From: allynb at adsne.com (Allyn Baskerville)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 11:08:16 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel handle, possibly pennant handle
Message-ID: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>

When working on my boat, I had some parts on the kitchen table. That?s a no no in my house, so I shouldn?t have done that.  This included a couple plastic balls and a handle on the line to the keel. My wife likes to have everything very orderly, which is a good thing, but there isn?t any rhyme or reason to where things are placed.  I?ve been looking for these parts for a month and can?t find them. I?ve found some ?stopper balls? that look as if they will fit, but I can?t find a handle that will for the line diameter. Does anyone have a suggestion where I might locate one? Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 08:12:08 2020
From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 08:12:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel handle, possibly pennant handle
In-Reply-To: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>
References: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>
Message-ID: <CEA2218E-D88E-44DE-A4AE-87D5731A5ABA@gmail.com>

:-)

My wife does the same thing. She says that she places things in a ?safe? place. It so safe that no even her can find it.


Luis A. Guzm?n II
S/V Aquetxali


> On Mar 3, 2020, at 6:08 AM, Allyn Baskerville <allynb at adsne.com> wrote:
> 
> When working on my boat, I had some parts on the kitchen table. That?s a no no in my house, so I shouldn?t have done that.  This included a couple plastic balls and a handle on the line to the keel. My wife likes to have everything very orderly, which is a good thing, but there isn?t any rhyme or reason to where things are placed.  I?ve been looking for these parts for a month and can?t find them. I?ve found some ?stopper balls? that look as if they will fit, but I can?t find a handle that will for the line diameter. Does anyone have a suggestion where I might locate one? Thanks 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


From ews1esq at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  3 09:50:04 2020
From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (eric w. smith)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 14:50:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint questions
References: <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773@mail.yahoo.com>

Folks,
I have a 1995 Rhodes 22 which I purchased from GB in 2004.? It was fully "recycled" at that time.? In 2015, after several years of freshwater use, I sent her back to GB for a full cleanup: new gel coat, bottom paint, sails, etc.? Thereafter, she sailed only in fresh water until 2019
Last year I retired and moved to Florida.? My boat is now docked in the brackish and salt waters of the Indian River Lagoon/Fort Pierce Inlet on the Treasure Coast. we day sail in the Atlantic, just few miles out. I have a regular service for once a month in-water bottom cleaning which seems to hold the bottom growth in check.
My questions are related to a new paint job for the bottom.? How long do GB or you knowledgeable Rhodies suggest before a new paint job?? Does GB use ablative paint or some other hybrid?? How many coats are recommended?
Your thoughts will be appreciated.
Eric Smiths/v Red Mistress

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Tue Mar  3 10:07:01 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 15:07:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel handle, possibly pennant handle
In-Reply-To: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>
References: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>
Message-ID: <158444987.2574621.1583248021083@mail.yahoo.com>

E Mail Stan or make it mine was in bad shape so made one from a golf ball I'm a golfer thought it was fun

-----Original Message-----
From: Allyn Baskerville <allynb at adsne.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 3, 2020 6:08 am
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel handle, possibly pennant handle

When working on my boat, I had some parts on the kitchen table. That?s a no no in my house, so I shouldn?t have done that.? This included a couple plastic balls and a handle on the line to the keel. My wife likes to have everything very orderly, which is a good thing, but there isn?t any rhyme or reason to where things are placed.? I?ve been looking for these parts for a month and can?t find them. I?ve found some ?stopper balls? that look as if they will fit, but I can?t find a handle that will for the line diameter. Does anyone have a suggestion where I might locate one? Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Tue Mar  3 11:18:02 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 09:18:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB692042DB4512FA01E1738CC880E70@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <1583252282936-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Thanks Roger.
Since you have a '76 and I am fearful to post a separate thread for this,
what do you think your boat weighs separate from the trailer, ready to sail? 
My 76 has an equally old trailer that I need a new axle (or two) for.  All
the trailer companies outside of Triad that I have been speaking with have
quoted me different capacities.  I've read the archives and searched the
threads, but I've found both to be inconclusive since the model is
constantly being improved and it is likely that a '76, a '96, and a '16 are
different.  

Secondly, I noticed in some old pictures of Dynamic Equilibrium you have a
pretty hefty railing set-up.  My stern rail is about to give out and want to
replace it, but shipping costs from the factory are high for me.  Thoughts
on the topic?



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Tue Mar  3 12:26:15 2020
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 17:26:15 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1583252282936-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1583252282936-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6920661CAA5C9D3B9A8560F580E40@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Brian,

I?ve never weighed the boat and trailer separately.  However, with a full water tank (15 gal), full fuel tank (6 gal), full 6 lb LPG tank, empty porta potti, mainsail, 150% genoa, triradial spinnaker, cruising spinnaker, spinnaker pole & whisker pole and rigging, cabin cushions, cockpit cushions, homemade Bimini/Boom room and pop top canvas, full ice chest, 3 anchors, chain, and rode, dock lines, and other gear for a 4 day cruise the boat and trailer weighed 3350 lbs.  I have a Lil Dude tandem axle steel trailer.  My trailer registration lists the weight at 445 lbs, although I?ve never actually weighed just the trailer.  So, that would make the boat?s rigged cruising weight ~2905 lbs.  Newer Rhodes 22?s are considerably heavier.

My railings and stern pulpit are homemade from schedule 40 3/4? 316L stainless pipe, mandrel bent and MIG welded back in 1988.  The stanchion bases and backing plates were milled from solid 316 SS billet as part of the same project.  My trailering mast carrier, tabernacle mid mast support, and mast stepping systems were custom built to work with my stern pulpit.  My family considered me completely out of control for some of the boat projects in those days!  It was not the most economic route; but, I just enjoy working on the boat.  A local boat rigger might be able to build you a new stern pulpit for less than the factory model.  You might also consider driving down to the factory and picking the OEM stern pulpit up yourself.

Roger Pihlaja 
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium



Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2020, at 11:17 AM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks Roger.
> Since you have a '76 and I am fearful to post a separate thread for this,
> what do you think your boat weighs separate from the trailer, ready to sail? 
> My 76 has an equally old trailer that I need a new axle (or two) for.  All
> the trailer companies outside of Triad that I have been speaking with have
> quoted me different capacities.  I've read the archives and searched the
> threads, but I've found both to be inconclusive since the model is
> constantly being improved and it is likely that a '76, a '96, and a '16 are
> different.  
> 
> Secondly, I noticed in some old pictures of Dynamic Equilibrium you have a
> pretty hefty railing set-up.  My stern rail is about to give out and want to
> replace it, but shipping costs from the factory are high for me.  Thoughts
> on the topic?
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 14:52:21 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 14:52:21 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keel handle, possibly pennant handle
In-Reply-To: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>
References: <59BE671D-7EB3-4CBE-9082-4BEAB9876015@adsne.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMOZ_6t1paJ_7D-N_D-8nmvVSx8j6bEVMG4VqYfE1M+19g@mail.gmail.com>

Look in a plastic shopping bag, on a hanger under a seldom worn winter coat
in the front hall closet... ;)

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 06:08 Allyn Baskerville <allynb at adsne.com> wrote:

> When working on my boat, I had some parts on the kitchen table. That?s a
> no no in my house, so I shouldn?t have done that.  This included a couple
> plastic balls and a handle on the line to the keel. My wife likes to have
> everything very orderly, which is a good thing, but there isn?t any rhyme
> or reason to where things are placed.  I?ve been looking for these parts
> for a month and can?t find them. I?ve found some ?stopper balls? that look
> as if they will fit, but I can?t find a handle that will for the line
> diameter. Does anyone have a suggestion where I might locate one? Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone

From stan at generalboats.com  Tue Mar  3 15:43:11 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 15:43:11 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <000501d5f0a6$7d624fd0$7826ef70$@yahoo.com>
References: <3f2d9541-7219-60a3-e705-5bd1b3867d5e@generalboats.com>
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 <000501d5f0a6$7d624fd0$7826ef70$@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bb37229c-a82d-6142-f656-03860e48c413@generalboats.com>

thanks, but it gets worse.? Just got off the phone with the 
manufacturer.? His tech dept. says you can have it all correct and it 
still may not work because of the degree of the precision of the 
threading itself.? Hayn claims that the quality of their machine cut 
threads is so high that their fittings do not work with some of the 
other brands bodies.

Good salesmanship or not, I ordered the rest of the turnbuckle from Hayn 
and they are shipping today.? Can't keep poor Dana from sailing his 
third Rhodes in beautiful Belize any longer than need be.? If you did 
not get to see his beautiful photo, I have attached it.

stan


On 3/2/20 10:23 AM, James Nichols via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> Stan,
>
> >From the way I understood them to be is that they should always be right=tighten.  Unless they are installed upside down.
>
> All the barrels are threaded the same, they pretty much only vary based on diameter of the thread, material and whether they are pipe or open.
>
> Every barrel has a left hand and a right hand threading in it so that when the barrel is turned one way, they pull against each other and when you turn the other way, they spread apart.  It is the end fittings that determine the overall application.
>
> The end affixed to the deck is the end that should be threaded normal to where you can hold it vertically in your fist and turn the barrel clockwise to tighten it.
>
> The swage end should be reverse threaded and go into the top of the barrel.
>
> When dealing with the individual pieces the reverse threaded end just feels wrong, but once you have the three pieces together, it all kind of makes sense.
>
> As for the R stamp, probably means reverse threaded because they probably make a swage to swage turnbuckle and have to have swages that are reverse threaded and ones that aren?t.  But every manufacture is different and not all of them mark the threading of the ends.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> James
>
>

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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 20:37:53 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 18:37:53 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] dinghy selection
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo-x_GV=32xSpPYGqzr0gmvjKEHBb06YY=F0VUGx01_-Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1582383144463-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <1583285873575-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Mike, thanks for the extra info.  Good to hear that the Mariner 4 stores
well.  It's now among my top choices.  Should make a decision before long
and will report back regarding whatever I end up getting after some summer
adventures.



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 20:42:58 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 18:42:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB6920661CAA5C9D3B9A8560F580E40@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <1583286178688-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Brian, welcome to the list.  I didn't realize that 76' is such a popular
vintage among this group until you posted your intro note.  You couldn't ask
for more knowledgeable fellow 76' R22 owners.

Roger, you mentioned that newer boats are considerably heavier.  Is that
mainly due to thicker fiberglass?



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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Wed Mar  4 00:34:21 2020
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 05:34:21 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another new GB 22 Owner
In-Reply-To: <1583286178688-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1582748016196-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6920317117344FD89DE2735380E50@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Jesse,

You would have to ask Stan about the differences in fiberglass thickness.  Newer boats also tend to have more amenities like inner mast furling, power water, more elaborate interior, etc.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Brian, welcome to the list.  I didn't realize that 76' is such a popular
> vintage among this group until you posted your intro note.  You couldn't ask
> for more knowledgeable fellow 76' R22 owners.
> 
> Roger, you mentioned that newer boats are considerably heavier.  Is that
> mainly due to thicker fiberglass?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From killarneylake at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 10:34:42 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:34:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sassamansville to Honey Harbour Repositioning
Message-ID: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Greetings All,

My 1989 Rhodes 22 is being taken on a permanent international vacation from
USA to Canada in a week.

I decided the ten hour mountainous journey would suit a rented Ford F-150
better than my Honda Pilot. The Triad trailer is the single axle with surge
brakes. 

I have some questions:

Is there a process to backing up without triggering the surge brakes?

Has anyone authored a trailering check list that they would be willing to
share? I have some items in my mental check list but I fear it is far from
comprehensive.

This question is directed to just the maple leaf people. Do you have any
tips on the Canada Customs import process when I arrive at the border? Any
preference between the crossing points Peace Bridge / Rainbow Bridge /
Queenston Lewiston Bridge?

Thanks,

Michael



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From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Mar  6 10:47:55 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 08:47:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1583509675662-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Does anybody know the date of "A Bit of History" article. Would be
interesting to know because it states "there are about 2,000 Rhodes...".
Although the article mentions contractors that built early Rhodes, it would
be interesting and helpful to put together a listing by Year/SN of where
Rhodes were built.



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 10:49:21 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 10:49:21 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <1583509675662-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1583509675662-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXZ+TeEywgK9GLhD8auMuvfJF_mTfWb8OHDVcdKKBhvMg@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea.

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 10:47, Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net> wrote:

> Does anybody know the date of "A Bit of History" article. Would be
> interesting to know because it states "there are about 2,000 Rhodes...".
> Although the article mentions contractors that built early Rhodes, it would
> be interesting and helpful to put together a listing by Year/SN of where
> Rhodes were built.
>
>
>
> -----
> Joe Dempsey
> s/v Respite
> Rhodes 22 1989/2005
> Deltaville,VA
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Mar  6 11:10:19 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 11:10:19 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <1583509675662-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.889.1583511026.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

Stan,Do you know when the earliest Rhodes (Continental) 22 was produced? Is it company confidential?Mikes/v Wind Lass '91Nissequogue River, NY
-------- Original message --------From: Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net> Date: 3/6/20  10:47 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22 Does anybody know the date of "A Bit of History" article. Would beinteresting to know because it states "there are about 2,000 Rhodes...".Although the article mentions contractors that built early Rhodes, it wouldbe interesting and helpful to put together a listing by Year/SN of whereRhodes were built.-----Joe Dempseys/v Respite Rhodes 22 1989/2005Deltaville,VA--Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 13:01:02 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:01:02 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMOv29MD+cWY-oGgVU2REXt2tDCuSTDtQfXRB0=iK3ChOQ@mail.gmail.com>

I had a 1974. But that was before HID numbers were standardized, so the
cited website would not have applied.

Todd T

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 2:49 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
>

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 13:24:45 2020
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:24:45 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMOv29MD+cWY-oGgVU2REXt2tDCuSTDtQfXRB0=iK3ChOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAB-twMOv29MD+cWY-oGgVU2REXt2tDCuSTDtQfXRB0=iK3ChOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRoU0fbYgo4Gr1kpotOua56yMw-G2q1gf+o6TZioC=yUEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hull Identification Numbers were required after November 1, 1972.
Cary Tolbert
S/V Whisper 86

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had a 1974. But that was before HID numbers were standardized, so the
> cited website would not have applied.
>
> Todd T
>
> tavares0947 at gmail.com
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 2:49 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
> >
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 13:34:12 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:34:12 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRoU0fbYgo4Gr1kpotOua56yMw-G2q1gf+o6TZioC=yUEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAB-twMOv29MD+cWY-oGgVU2REXt2tDCuSTDtQfXRB0=iK3ChOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRoU0fbYgo4Gr1kpotOua56yMw-G2q1gf+o6TZioC=yUEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMOBmW8kkqRoOOb90nJFr4-5VFuu=yo3BCmbjZgyR6M+sA@mail.gmail.com>

They did always include the three letter mfg prefix nor date code was the
point.

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 1:25 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hull Identification Numbers were required after November 1, 1972.
> Cary Tolbert
> S/V Whisper 86
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I had a 1974. But that was before HID numbers were standardized, so the
> > cited website would not have applied.
> >
> > Todd T
> >
> > tavares0947 at gmail.com
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 2:49 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
> > >
> >
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 13:34:29 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:34:29 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMOBmW8kkqRoOOb90nJFr4-5VFuu=yo3BCmbjZgyR6M+sA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAB-twMOv29MD+cWY-oGgVU2REXt2tDCuSTDtQfXRB0=iK3ChOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRoU0fbYgo4Gr1kpotOua56yMw-G2q1gf+o6TZioC=yUEQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAB-twMOBmW8kkqRoOOb90nJFr4-5VFuu=yo3BCmbjZgyR6M+sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMOG-gFyN0yft_3jnmXYm64r82yD=MNr2k4jb-+G2NOGHg@mail.gmail.com>

Didnt...

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 1:34 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> They did always include the three letter mfg prefix nor date code was the
> point.
>
> tavares0947 at gmail.com
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 1:25 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hull Identification Numbers were required after November 1, 1972.
>> Cary Tolbert
>> S/V Whisper 86
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I had a 1974. But that was before HID numbers were standardized, so the
>> > cited website would not have applied.
>> >
>> > Todd T
>> >
>> > tavares0947 at gmail.com
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 2:49 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
>> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 13:40:22 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:40:22 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRoU0fbYgo4Gr1kpotOua56yMw-G2q1gf+o6TZioC=yUEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAB-twMOv29MD+cWY-oGgVU2REXt2tDCuSTDtQfXRB0=iK3ChOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRoU0fbYgo4Gr1kpotOua56yMw-G2q1gf+o6TZioC=yUEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMNAfq86q-xxzk619cP7ProjGiUzQmOGk+RECtNJeJNkcQ@mail.gmail.com>

The reply was because of the link one respondent posted, and comments that
the HID provided year of mfg.  This was also partly to address the OPs
question. Sorry for the confusion.
My 1974 had an HID without the date code. My 1976 an 1984 have/had the
standard GBX2200XXXX HID numbers.

Todd T.

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 1:25 PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hull Identification Numbers were required after November 1, 1972.
> Cary Tolbert
> S/V Whisper 86
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I had a 1974. But that was before HID numbers were standardized, so the
> > cited website would not have applied.
> >
> > Todd T
> >
> > tavares0947 at gmail.com
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 2:49 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
> > >
> >
>

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Mar  6 14:03:52 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 12:03:52 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sassamansville to Honey Harbour Repositioning
In-Reply-To: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1583521432953-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Somewhere on the GB/Rhodes websites is a Triad Trailer launching instruction
sheet. I printed out a sheet with photos to go with it that i will forward
to you. I do not have a digital copy of the instruction sheet.



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Mar  6 15:03:26 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:03:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sassamansville to Honey Harbour Repositioning
In-Reply-To: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1583525006153-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Here are the visual instructions I made.
  <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Trailer_Launch1.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Trailer_Launch2.jpg> 

These photos are primarily to show the settings of the various pins and
fittings on the trailer in order to launch. They obviously do not show an
actual launch. 






-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Mar  6 15:22:44 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:22:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Triad Trailer Launching Instructions
Message-ID: <1583526164028-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Thought this might help new List members. These are pictures I made showing
details of the Triad trailer to prep for Launch as well as Triad's own
Instructions. Hope they help.

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Trailer_Launch1.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Trailer_Launch2.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Triad_Trailer_Launch_Instructions.jpg> 




-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From chitakcheung at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 15:28:22 2020
From: chitakcheung at gmail.com (Patrick Cheung)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 15:28:22 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sassamansville to Honey Harbour Repositioning
In-Reply-To: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <C87F0073-3FFD-47E4-AAE7-D81D994347B6@gmail.com>

I crossed the border at Lewiston, smooth.
Have a separate receipt for boat and trailer, I think they are different tax rate. Don?t forget to take off your allowances, being absent for so many days.

Keep your tax receipt good, they come back a year later to haunt you.
Have a happy crossing.

Cheers


> On Mar 5, 2020, at 10:34 AM, KillarneyLake <killarneylake at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Greetings All,
> 
> My 1989 Rhodes 22 is being taken on a permanent international vacation from
> USA to Canada in a week.
> 
> I decided the ten hour mountainous journey would suit a rented Ford F-150
> better than my Honda Pilot. The Triad trailer is the single axle with surge
> brakes. 
> 
> I have some questions:
> 
> Is there a process to backing up without triggering the surge brakes?
> 
> Has anyone authored a trailering check list that they would be willing to
> share? I have some items in my mental check list but I fear it is far from
> comprehensive.
> 
> This question is directed to just the maple leaf people. Do you have any
> tips on the Canada Customs import process when I arrive at the border? Any
> preference between the crossing points Peace Bridge / Rainbow Bridge /
> Queenston Lewiston Bridge?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Sat Mar  7 15:06:16 2020
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:06:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 capsize in Force 10
In-Reply-To: <1576606173616-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1576606173616-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1583611576717-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

My issue just arrived.  (They're $6 on Ebay right now).   Wow.

A few thoughts from my lessor experiences, particularly an unexpected squall
where I was caught in a long gust over 50 MPH (not knots) per NOAA.   I
quickly reefed the jib, but the main was still about half at the time.   I
tend to be conservative with the main, since its harder to reef quickly.  
It was only half out as I watched the clouds and headed to the marina.   Of
course I was on the lee shore in seconds.   Maybe because it was April and
the water was cold, or maybe because of my dinghy roots, I wasn't willing to
crawl off the windward rail to hang over the cold water and try to furl the
main.   Nor did I dare release the tiller long enough to try.  I luffed like
crazy while maintaining just enough windward angle to avoid leeway putting
me in the trees, I slowly crawled along a quarter mile of shore, trying to
get to a wider part of the lake.    I'm not sure how many minutes of peak
terror I enjoyed before the wind dropped down to 30-40 mph, allowing me to
gain enough seaway to drop the sail, start the outboard and get over the
shakes.   I used the outboard just to hold stationary for several minutes,
until I gradually began to build distance.   Half an hour later I was back
to sailing, trying to find my hat.

My mistake wasn't respecting the storm clouds enough.  The direction of wind
on water made me think they would clear me, plus they weren't from the usual
direction.  Since it wasn't even 60 degrees I didn't think a squall would
pack the energy of a summertime pop up storm.   I always  keep a life jacket
hooked to the black tabs that hold the seat cushions (which were still in
the V berth).  I was able to put it on quickly without releasing the tiller.  
I didn't have a wetsuit or proper gear, just a hoodie.   Since I was
reservoir sailing there was no reason to set lifelines.   I did have dry
clothes in the cabin, but not in a waterproof bag. If swamped, they would
have been useless.  The Sailmaster had a hanked on jib which was dropped as
I understand the story.   He wouldn't have been able to drop it if single
handing.   The lost Rhodes had problem with its reefed jib lifting up?   In
my case I was able to reef the jib but could not make it to the foredeck
alone to add a gasket.   I've had a furled jib on another boat partially
unwind above the sheets from a gale.   That makes the boat impossible to
control.   (That's another story, but a Buccaneer 18 can in fact foil).   I
don't recall if I put the companionway door in, I often do if in doubt, just
to keep rain out.  I don't trust the poptop to remain in place if rolled.

Regarding the outboard:   I think James Papa of Small Craft Advisor is
mostly right    Another squall of lessor wind but rain demonstrated that.  I
was again just reservoir sailing so the waves were insignificant.   The
blinding spray of wind driven rain plus foam nearly choked the carb several
times.    This weakness is not unique to the Rhodes.   Many larger cruisers
have replaced broken inboards with transom hung outboards for cost,
seriously diminishing  their seaworthiness.   The author doesn't seem aware
of the fuel efficiency of the modern 4 cycle.   It may cavitate, it may push
air, it may choke on foam.  It may die just because of ethanol.   It won't
run out of gas anytime soon.   

I'm unsure what affect the flaired sides have in a heavy wind, I think there
is some drawback.  I forget the term, but there is a circumstance in large
ship design where overhang can catch a wave and decrease stability.  This is
a problem for giant waves hitting the corners of large container ships,
since they are designed to maximize the cargo capacity while still
maintaining some prismatic coefficient for fuel efficiency.   In conditions
I've been out in the Rhodes nicely floats up the side of a wave.  I'm sure
there are some circumstances where it won't.  The flair does stiffen the
hull and provide a dry ride in normal conditions.

The Rhodes is a trailer sailor.   Its nicely appointed, but I don't know the
EU would give it a class C rating.      I often sail alone.   Exceptions are
usually passengers rather then experienced crew.  Early and late season I'm
often the only boat visible, so I try to be conservative and self reliant. 
I think a lot about these kinds of stories.   Thanks for the thread.   

Alex



-----
Alex Cole
S/V Lark
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 16:38:36 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:38:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 capsize in Force 10
In-Reply-To: <1583611576717-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1576606173616-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1583611576717-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36Zyf1KRxz41YigvNtM4m2kc0F2r7cDyE3+UzAL3L7gv-g@mail.gmail.com>

Alex,

Why don't you just heave to?  It makes furling the main very easy.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 3:06 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:

> My issue just arrived.  (They're $6 on Ebay right now).   Wow.
>
> A few thoughts from my lessor experiences, particularly an unexpected
> squall
> where I was caught in a long gust over 50 MPH (not knots) per NOAA.   I
> quickly reefed the jib, but the main was still about half at the time.   I
> tend to be conservative with the main, since its harder to reef quickly.
> It was only half out as I watched the clouds and headed to the marina.   Of
> course I was on the lee shore in seconds.   Maybe because it was April and
> the water was cold, or maybe because of my dinghy roots, I wasn't willing
> to
> crawl off the windward rail to hang over the cold water and try to furl the
> main.   Nor did I dare release the tiller long enough to try.  I luffed
> like
> crazy while maintaining just enough windward angle to avoid leeway putting
> me in the trees, I slowly crawled along a quarter mile of shore, trying to
> get to a wider part of the lake.    I'm not sure how many minutes of peak
> terror I enjoyed before the wind dropped down to 30-40 mph, allowing me to
> gain enough seaway to drop the sail, start the outboard and get over the
> shakes.   I used the outboard just to hold stationary for several minutes,
> until I gradually began to build distance.   Half an hour later I was back
> to sailing, trying to find my hat.
>
> My mistake wasn't respecting the storm clouds enough.  The direction of
> wind
> on water made me think they would clear me, plus they weren't from the
> usual
> direction.  Since it wasn't even 60 degrees I didn't think a squall would
> pack the energy of a summertime pop up storm.   I always  keep a life
> jacket
> hooked to the black tabs that hold the seat cushions (which were still in
> the V berth).  I was able to put it on quickly without releasing the
> tiller.
> I didn't have a wetsuit or proper gear, just a hoodie.   Since I was
> reservoir sailing there was no reason to set lifelines.   I did have dry
> clothes in the cabin, but not in a waterproof bag. If swamped, they would
> have been useless.  The Sailmaster had a hanked on jib which was dropped as
> I understand the story.   He wouldn't have been able to drop it if single
> handing.   The lost Rhodes had problem with its reefed jib lifting up?   In
> my case I was able to reef the jib but could not make it to the foredeck
> alone to add a gasket.   I've had a furled jib on another boat partially
> unwind above the sheets from a gale.   That makes the boat impossible to
> control.   (That's another story, but a Buccaneer 18 can in fact foil).   I
> don't recall if I put the companionway door in, I often do if in doubt,
> just
> to keep rain out.  I don't trust the poptop to remain in place if rolled.
>
> Regarding the outboard:   I think James Papa of Small Craft Advisor is
> mostly right    Another squall of lessor wind but rain demonstrated that.
> I
> was again just reservoir sailing so the waves were insignificant.   The
> blinding spray of wind driven rain plus foam nearly choked the carb several
> times.    This weakness is not unique to the Rhodes.   Many larger cruisers
> have replaced broken inboards with transom hung outboards for cost,
> seriously diminishing  their seaworthiness.   The author doesn't seem aware
> of the fuel efficiency of the modern 4 cycle.   It may cavitate, it may
> push
> air, it may choke on foam.  It may die just because of ethanol.   It won't
> run out of gas anytime soon.
>
> I'm unsure what affect the flaired sides have in a heavy wind, I think
> there
> is some drawback.  I forget the term, but there is a circumstance in large
> ship design where overhang can catch a wave and decrease stability.  This
> is
> a problem for giant waves hitting the corners of large container ships,
> since they are designed to maximize the cargo capacity while still
> maintaining some prismatic coefficient for fuel efficiency.   In conditions
> I've been out in the Rhodes nicely floats up the side of a wave.  I'm sure
> there are some circumstances where it won't.  The flair does stiffen the
> hull and provide a dry ride in normal conditions.
>
> The Rhodes is a trailer sailor.   Its nicely appointed, but I don't know
> the
> EU would give it a class C rating.      I often sail alone.   Exceptions
> are
> usually passengers rather then experienced crew.  Early and late season I'm
> often the only boat visible, so I try to be conservative and self reliant.
> I think a lot about these kinds of stories.   Thanks for the thread.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 20:59:14 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:59:14 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 capsize in Force 10
In-Reply-To: <1583611576717-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1576606173616-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1583611576717-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUaPK2x3jLGbs8rQFtFP5n=UwDaNDJmM1yPyb4VyCHUoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Nice explanation and food for thought. Alas, you couldn?t heave to on a lee
shore. The Rhodes heaves to quite well, I?ve done it several times over the
years but it needs sea room.

Chris Geankoplis
ENOSIS

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 at 15:06, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:

> My issue just arrived.  (They're $6 on Ebay right now).   Wow.
>
> A few thoughts from my lessor experiences, particularly an unexpected
> squall
> where I was caught in a long gust over 50 MPH (not knots) per NOAA.   I
> quickly reefed the jib, but the main was still about half at the time.   I
> tend to be conservative with the main, since its harder to reef quickly.
> It was only half out as I watched the clouds and headed to the marina.   Of
> course I was on the lee shore in seconds.   Maybe because it was April and
> the water was cold, or maybe because of my dinghy roots, I wasn't willing
> to
> crawl off the windward rail to hang over the cold water and try to furl the
> main.   Nor did I dare release the tiller long enough to try.  I luffed
> like
> crazy while maintaining just enough windward angle to avoid leeway putting
> me in the trees, I slowly crawled along a quarter mile of shore, trying to
> get to a wider part of the lake.    I'm not sure how many minutes of peak
> terror I enjoyed before the wind dropped down to 30-40 mph, allowing me to
> gain enough seaway to drop the sail, start the outboard and get over the
> shakes.   I used the outboard just to hold stationary for several minutes,
> until I gradually began to build distance.   Half an hour later I was back
> to sailing, trying to find my hat.
>
> My mistake wasn't respecting the storm clouds enough.  The direction of
> wind
> on water made me think they would clear me, plus they weren't from the
> usual
> direction.  Since it wasn't even 60 degrees I didn't think a squall would
> pack the energy of a summertime pop up storm.   I always  keep a life
> jacket
> hooked to the black tabs that hold the seat cushions (which were still in
> the V berth).  I was able to put it on quickly without releasing the
> tiller.
> I didn't have a wetsuit or proper gear, just a hoodie.   Since I was
> reservoir sailing there was no reason to set lifelines.   I did have dry
> clothes in the cabin, but not in a waterproof bag. If swamped, they would
> have been useless.  The Sailmaster had a hanked on jib which was dropped as
> I understand the story.   He wouldn't have been able to drop it if single
> handing.   The lost Rhodes had problem with its reefed jib lifting up?   In
> my case I was able to reef the jib but could not make it to the foredeck
> alone to add a gasket.   I've had a furled jib on another boat partially
> unwind above the sheets from a gale.   That makes the boat impossible to
> control.   (That's another story, but a Buccaneer 18 can in fact foil).   I
> don't recall if I put the companionway door in, I often do if in doubt,
> just
> to keep rain out.  I don't trust the poptop to remain in place if rolled.
>
> Regarding the outboard:   I think James Papa of Small Craft Advisor is
> mostly right    Another squall of lessor wind but rain demonstrated that.
> I
> was again just reservoir sailing so the waves were insignificant.   The
> blinding spray of wind driven rain plus foam nearly choked the carb several
> times.    This weakness is not unique to the Rhodes.   Many larger cruisers
> have replaced broken inboards with transom hung outboards for cost,
> seriously diminishing  their seaworthiness.   The author doesn't seem aware
> of the fuel efficiency of the modern 4 cycle.   It may cavitate, it may
> push
> air, it may choke on foam.  It may die just because of ethanol.   It won't
> run out of gas anytime soon.
>
> I'm unsure what affect the flaired sides have in a heavy wind, I think
> there
> is some drawback.  I forget the term, but there is a circumstance in large
> ship design where overhang can catch a wave and decrease stability.  This
> is
> a problem for giant waves hitting the corners of large container ships,
> since they are designed to maximize the cargo capacity while still
> maintaining some prismatic coefficient for fuel efficiency.   In conditions
> I've been out in the Rhodes nicely floats up the side of a wave.  I'm sure
> there are some circumstances where it won't.  The flair does stiffen the
> hull and provide a dry ride in normal conditions.
>
> The Rhodes is a trailer sailor.   Its nicely appointed, but I don't know
> the
> EU would give it a class C rating.      I often sail alone.   Exceptions
> are
> usually passengers rather then experienced crew.  Early and late season I'm
> often the only boat visible, so I try to be conservative and self reliant.
> I think a lot about these kinds of stories.   Thanks for the thread.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From sjcclu at msn.com  Sun Mar  8 17:16:41 2020
From: sjcclu at msn.com (Stephen CongdonCLU)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 21:16:41 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 21:17:43 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
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From mike at traildesign.com  Sun Mar  8 18:27:39 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:27:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo-y_TAZTLG-BpXbg5y+iRBESLx7hHTL080qJVM1UgD-JA@mail.gmail.com>

I hope this isn't considered bad forum etiquette, but a good friend of mine
retired from owning a business that created safety gear for the military
and law enforcement. In his "retirement" (do entrepreneurs every really
retire?) He has set up a garage shop with full CNC mill and lathe
capabilities and is doing one-off CNC products that can be made out of
anything from Star board to 316 stainless steel. The name of his company is
coolcncstuff.com. The reason I bring this up is because he and I have
collaborated on several small projects for my Rhodes and I thought I would
share the wealth here. The best part is he has access to my '89 Rhodes to
measure or figure out the component for your boat. I also mention he has
several commercial sewing machines and is currently working on a better
strap for my Doyle head sail than the original one that has broke twice
now.

Stan and I talked about this and there might be some interest in using
coolcncstuff as a source for parts that can no longer be sourced from other
manufacturers.

Michael Riter
SV Emma B

From Colealexander at hotmail.com  Sun Mar  8 21:01:24 2020
From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:01:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 capsize in Force 10
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That?s the challenge of puddle sailors.    Waves are small and the marina is
almost close enough.  The lee shore is always much closer.    I  intend to
find a way for another ?cruise? late this summer, to supplement YouTube and
the exploits of ENOSIS.  I?ll settle for a few days on the Lakes enjoying
Rick?s back yard.     Last summer all I was able to do was drag the Bucc to
an alternate reservoir for novelty, and increase my night sailing skills on
the LARK.   Once one memorizes all the trees on one?s lake, the dark after
work seems an obvious solution.  

Alex.



-----
Alex Cole
S/V Lark
--
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 21:04:28 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 21:04:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
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Thanks fo or to the info. Stan is still primary source but there are a
number of things Stan no longer can get.
Chris Geankoplis
ENOSIS

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 18:28, Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:

> I hope this isn't considered bad forum etiquette, but a good friend of mine
> retired from owning a business that created safety gear for the military
> and law enforcement. In his "retirement" (do entrepreneurs every really
> retire?) He has set up a garage shop with full CNC mill and lathe
> capabilities and is doing one-off CNC products that can be made out of
> anything from Star board to 316 stainless steel. The name of his company is
> coolcncstuff.com. The reason I bring this up is because he and I have
> collaborated on several small projects for my Rhodes and I thought I would
> share the wealth here. The best part is he has access to my '89 Rhodes to
> measure or figure out the component for your boat. I also mention he has
> several commercial sewing machines and is currently working on a better
> strap for my Doyle head sail than the original one that has broke twice
> now.
>
> Stan and I talked about this and there might be some interest in using
> coolcncstuff as a source for parts that can no longer be sourced from other
> manufacturers.
>
> Michael Riter
> SV Emma B
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 07:28:44 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 07:28:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo-y_TAZTLG-BpXbg5y+iRBESLx7hHTL080qJVM1UgD-JA@mail.gmail.com>
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Mike,

I think this is a great idea. I know of several parts I'd like made. One
being a spare set of pintles and gudgeons which are custom to Rhodes 22.
Does he weld stainless steel? Impossible to find parts are things like 90?
railing mounts for the outside of gunwales. I know Roger had to get some
custom made. SS centerboard pivot pins are another thing one owner custom
made.
I just hope there is only one price structure, and buying parts doesn't
require having an ROC or paying royalties. (Sorry Stan)

Todd T.

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 6:28 PM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:

> I hope this isn't considered bad forum etiquette, but a good friend of mine
> retired from owning a business that created safety gear for the military
> and law enforcement. In his "retirement" (do entrepreneurs every really
> retire?) He has set up a garage shop with full CNC mill and lathe
> capabilities and is doing one-off CNC products that can be made out of
> anything from Star board to 316 stainless steel. The name of his company is
> coolcncstuff.com. The reason I bring this up is because he and I have
> collaborated on several small projects for my Rhodes and I thought I would
> share the wealth here. The best part is he has access to my '89 Rhodes to
> measure or figure out the component for your boat. I also mention he has
> several commercial sewing machines and is currently working on a better
> strap for my Doyle head sail than the original one that has broke twice
> now.
>
> Stan and I talked about this and there might be some interest in using
> coolcncstuff as a source for parts that can no longer be sourced from other
> manufacturers.
>
> Michael Riter
> SV Emma B
>

From mike at traildesign.com  Mon Mar  9 10:07:19 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 10:07:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMNgcghCwH4_6YzGKiE8jmTGZonT4ozYdH6G49KZdRaP6Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Todd. I forgot to mention he can MIG and/or TIG weld any type of metal.
He's a pretty handy guy with the mind of an engineer.

You're right Chris. Andrew isn't trying to cut into GB's business. Those
parts are already established. He likes the "I can't find this anywhere"
kind of thing. That and problem solving. He's always looking at my boat and
thinking of better mouse traps.

My Rhodes came with an open furler for the head sail. It looks like a big
spool with nothing to keep the line on it when deploying the head sail
except hand tension. Admittedly, I'm still learning, but there have been
several times where I've brought out the Genoa and forgot to hold onto the
furling line. This has always led to a rats nest of tangled line below the
furler. If I'm single handing then I have a devil of a time going forward
and untangling it.  Andrew is now working on a simple tensioner that will
make sure the line always feeds back onto the spool. I don't know how many
of you have that same type of furler, but if there's any interest after we
get it perfected, let me know.

I didn't tell him about the ROC, nor did I tell him marine parts are
supposed to cost more, so yeah, no worries there! :)

Mike Riter
SV Emma B




On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 7:29 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I think this is a great idea. I know of several parts I'd like made. One
> being a spare set of pintles and gudgeons which are custom to Rhodes 22.
> Does he weld stainless steel? Impossible to find parts are things like 90?
> railing mounts for the outside of gunwales. I know Roger had to get some
> custom made. SS centerboard pivot pins are another thing one owner custom
> made.
> I just hope there is only one price structure, and buying parts doesn't
> require having an ROC or paying royalties. (Sorry Stan)
>
> Todd T.
>
> tavares0947 at gmail.com
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 6:28 PM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
>
> > I hope this isn't considered bad forum etiquette, but a good friend of
> mine
> > retired from owning a business that created safety gear for the military
> > and law enforcement. In his "retirement" (do entrepreneurs every really
> > retire?) He has set up a garage shop with full CNC mill and lathe
> > capabilities and is doing one-off CNC products that can be made out of
> > anything from Star board to 316 stainless steel. The name of his company
> is
> > coolcncstuff.com. The reason I bring this up is because he and I have
> > collaborated on several small projects for my Rhodes and I thought I
> would
> > share the wealth here. The best part is he has access to my '89 Rhodes to
> > measure or figure out the component for your boat. I also mention he has
> > several commercial sewing machines and is currently working on a better
> > strap for my Doyle head sail than the original one that has broke twice
> > now.
> >
> > Stan and I talked about this and there might be some interest in using
> > coolcncstuff as a source for parts that can no longer be sourced from
> other
> > manufacturers.
> >
> > Michael Riter
> > SV Emma B
> >
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 21:11:08 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 21:11:08 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo9u=mGqZLKAjd6MNjNVu22=GkcUpehQX4a_x25SK+H+yg@mail.gmail.com>
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Brilliant on the tensioner, I have the same curler arrangement.

Chris Geankoplis
ENOSIS

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 10:07, Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:

> Hey Todd. I forgot to mention he can MIG and/or TIG weld any type of metal.
> He's a pretty handy guy with the mind of an engineer.
>
> You're right Chris. Andrew isn't trying to cut into GB's business. Those
> parts are already established. He likes the "I can't find this anywhere"
> kind of thing. That and problem solving. He's always looking at my boat and
> thinking of better mouse traps.
>
> My Rhodes came with an open furler for the head sail. It looks like a big
> spool with nothing to keep the line on it when deploying the head sail
> except hand tension. Admittedly, I'm still learning, but there have been
> several times where I've brought out the Genoa and forgot to hold onto the
> furling line. This has always led to a rats nest of tangled line below the
> furler. If I'm single handing then I have a devil of a time going forward
> and untangling it.  Andrew is now working on a simple tensioner that will
> make sure the line always feeds back onto the spool. I don't know how many
> of you have that same type of furler, but if there's any interest after we
> get it perfected, let me know.
>
> I didn't tell him about the ROC, nor did I tell him marine parts are
> supposed to cost more, so yeah, no worries there! :)
>
> Mike Riter
> SV Emma B
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 7:29 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > I think this is a great idea. I know of several parts I'd like made. One
> > being a spare set of pintles and gudgeons which are custom to Rhodes 22.
> > Does he weld stainless steel? Impossible to find parts are things like
> 90?
> > railing mounts for the outside of gunwales. I know Roger had to get some
> > custom made. SS centerboard pivot pins are another thing one owner custom
> > made.
> > I just hope there is only one price structure, and buying parts doesn't
> > require having an ROC or paying royalties. (Sorry Stan)
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > tavares0947 at gmail.com
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 6:28 PM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I hope this isn't considered bad forum etiquette, but a good friend of
> > mine
> > > retired from owning a business that created safety gear for the
> military
> > > and law enforcement. In his "retirement" (do entrepreneurs every really
> > > retire?) He has set up a garage shop with full CNC mill and lathe
> > > capabilities and is doing one-off CNC products that can be made out of
> > > anything from Star board to 316 stainless steel. The name of his
> company
> > is
> > > coolcncstuff.com. The reason I bring this up is because he and I have
> > > collaborated on several small projects for my Rhodes and I thought I
> > would
> > > share the wealth here. The best part is he has access to my '89 Rhodes
> to
> > > measure or figure out the component for your boat. I also mention he
> has
> > > several commercial sewing machines and is currently working on a better
> > > strap for my Doyle head sail than the original one that has broke twice
> > > now.
> > >
> > > Stan and I talked about this and there might be some interest in using
> > > coolcncstuff as a source for parts that can no longer be sourced from
> > other
> > > manufacturers.
> > >
> > > Michael Riter
> > > SV Emma B
> > >
> >
>

From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 14 17:57:04 2020
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:57:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
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I too would be interested in the tensioner,

Mike Corley
S/V Ranger

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 9:11 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Brilliant on the tensioner, I have the same curler arrangement.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 10:07, Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Todd. I forgot to mention he can MIG and/or TIG weld any type of
> metal.
> > He's a pretty handy guy with the mind of an engineer.
> >
> > You're right Chris. Andrew isn't trying to cut into GB's business. Those
> > parts are already established. He likes the "I can't find this anywhere"
> > kind of thing. That and problem solving. He's always looking at my boat
> and
> > thinking of better mouse traps.
> >
> > My Rhodes came with an open furler for the head sail. It looks like a big
> > spool with nothing to keep the line on it when deploying the head sail
> > except hand tension. Admittedly, I'm still learning, but there have been
> > several times where I've brought out the Genoa and forgot to hold onto
> the
> > furling line. This has always led to a rats nest of tangled line below
> the
> > furler. If I'm single handing then I have a devil of a time going forward
> > and untangling it.  Andrew is now working on a simple tensioner that will
> > make sure the line always feeds back onto the spool. I don't know how
> many
> > of you have that same type of furler, but if there's any interest after
> we
> > get it perfected, let me know.
> >
> > I didn't tell him about the ROC, nor did I tell him marine parts are
> > supposed to cost more, so yeah, no worries there! :)
> >
> > Mike Riter
> > SV Emma B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 7:29 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I think this is a great idea. I know of several parts I'd like made.
> One
> > > being a spare set of pintles and gudgeons which are custom to Rhodes
> 22.
> > > Does he weld stainless steel? Impossible to find parts are things like
> > 90?
> > > railing mounts for the outside of gunwales. I know Roger had to get
> some
> > > custom made. SS centerboard pivot pins are another thing one owner
> custom
> > > made.
> > > I just hope there is only one price structure, and buying parts doesn't
> > > require having an ROC or paying royalties. (Sorry Stan)
> > >
> > > Todd T.
> > >
> > > tavares0947 at gmail.com
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 6:28 PM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hope this isn't considered bad forum etiquette, but a good friend
> of
> > > mine
> > > > retired from owning a business that created safety gear for the
> > military
> > > > and law enforcement. In his "retirement" (do entrepreneurs every
> really
> > > > retire?) He has set up a garage shop with full CNC mill and lathe
> > > > capabilities and is doing one-off CNC products that can be made out
> of
> > > > anything from Star board to 316 stainless steel. The name of his
> > company
> > > is
> > > > coolcncstuff.com. The reason I bring this up is because he and I
> have
> > > > collaborated on several small projects for my Rhodes and I thought I
> > > would
> > > > share the wealth here. The best part is he has access to my '89
> Rhodes
> > to
> > > > measure or figure out the component for your boat. I also mention he
> > has
> > > > several commercial sewing machines and is currently working on a
> better
> > > > strap for my Doyle head sail than the original one that has broke
> twice
> > > > now.
> > > >
> > > > Stan and I talked about this and there might be some interest in
> using
> > > > coolcncstuff as a source for parts that can no longer be sourced from
> > > other
> > > > manufacturers.
> > > >
> > > > Michael Riter
> > > > SV Emma B
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Mar 14 19:18:53 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 19:18:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potential parts source
In-Reply-To: <CACSd1j+QLbxqApioMSPKuZUdoqUoWPR3-qCWye5uKeW7EUyeFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-y_TAZTLG-BpXbg5y+iRBESLx7hHTL080qJVM1UgD-JA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAB-twMNgcghCwH4_6YzGKiE8jmTGZonT4ozYdH6G49KZdRaP6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAY+qo9u=mGqZLKAjd6MNjNVu22=GkcUpehQX4a_x25SK+H+yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiUz-+4TwnEAPWq9ycCb37ic_nWUcUDv1-Be8utrfuU4Xg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACSd1j+QLbxqApioMSPKuZUdoqUoWPR3-qCWye5uKeW7EUyeFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e33cb66f-e77c-1218-1ae6-f669c4b65460@generalboats.com>


Hey Mike, you let me do all the talking yesterday.? Why didn't you 
interrupt me with any issue on genoa furling?? That one has been taken 
care of long ago.? Put it on the Service list you gave to Calvin; you're 
a ROC default member.

stan

On 3/14/20 5:57 PM, Michael Corley wrote:
> I too would be interested in the tensioner,
>
> Mike Corley
> S/V Ranger
>
>


From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 17:54:17 2020
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:54:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint questions
In-Reply-To: <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CACSd1jLyFuUNX+GCeWO_ZcQpnSzLUGWDSq=vi1x8X4KxkwWgWg@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure what GB uses, but I am going on my fourth season here on the
Southern Chesapeake since GB last redid my bottom.  I store it on the
trailer each winter, Dec - May.  The better quality the paint and the more
coats -  the longer between bottom painting.  Practical sailor has written
extensively about bottom paints.
I think you should ask other local sailors what they use in your area.

Mike Corley
S/V Ranger

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 9:50 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Folks,
> I have a 1995 Rhodes 22 which I purchased from GB in 2004.  It was fully
> "recycled" at that time.  In 2015, after several years of freshwater use, I
> sent her back to GB for a full cleanup: new gel coat, bottom paint, sails,
> etc.  Thereafter, she sailed only in fresh water until 2019
> Last year I retired and moved to Florida.  My boat is now docked in the
> brackish and salt waters of the Indian River Lagoon/Fort Pierce Inlet on
> the Treasure Coast. we day sail in the Atlantic, just few miles out. I have
> a regular service for once a month in-water bottom cleaning which seems to
> hold the bottom growth in check.
> My questions are related to a new paint job for the bottom.  How long do
> GB or you knowledgeable Rhodies suggest before a new paint job?  Does GB
> use ablative paint or some other hybrid?  How many coats are recommended?
> Your thoughts will be appreciated.
> Eric Smiths/v Red Mistress
>

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 15 18:51:14 2020
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:51:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint questions
In-Reply-To: <CACSd1jLyFuUNX+GCeWO_ZcQpnSzLUGWDSq=vi1x8X4KxkwWgWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CACSd1jLyFuUNX+GCeWO_ZcQpnSzLUGWDSq=vi1x8X4KxkwWgWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1554112797.3539762.1584312674384@mail.yahoo.com>

Eric?
For combo salt/fresh/brackish sailing I have used ablative as a better choice for DIY bottom maintenance and eventual repainting,? Also, check this on your boat. I discovered when I did the bottom of my '86 that a barrier coat had NEVER been put under the anti-fouling.? An excellent opportunity for blistering!? I had it taken down to the base surface and coated 2x barrier and 6x ablative.? The ablative will wear down and can be recoated by you sans boatyard.? Military veterans should know the 5 p's, it does apply. I suspect any of our skippers have their boat bottom checked for the barrier coat. I am certain that others will find the same as I did.??
Best sailing,
ArtMaryJane and MJ IILake Hartwell?


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 5:54 PM, Michael Corley<michael.4591 at gmail.com> wrote:   Not sure what GB uses, but I am going on my fourth season here on the
Southern Chesapeake since GB last redid my bottom.? I store it on the
trailer each winter, Dec - May.? The better quality the paint and the more
coats -? the longer between bottom painting.? Practical sailor has written
extensively about bottom paints.
I think you should ask other local sailors what they use in your area.

Mike Corley
S/V Ranger

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 9:50 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Folks,
> I have a 1995 Rhodes 22 which I purchased from GB in 2004.? It was fully
> "recycled" at that time.? In 2015, after several years of freshwater use, I
> sent her back to GB for a full cleanup: new gel coat, bottom paint, sails,
> etc.? Thereafter, she sailed only in fresh water until 2019
> Last year I retired and moved to Florida.? My boat is now docked in the
> brackish and salt waters of the Indian River Lagoon/Fort Pierce Inlet on
> the Treasure Coast. we day sail in the Atlantic, just few miles out. I have
> a regular service for once a month in-water bottom cleaning which seems to
> hold the bottom growth in check.
> My questions are related to a new paint job for the bottom.? How long do
> GB or you knowledgeable Rhodies suggest before a new paint job?? Does GB
> use ablative paint or some other hybrid?? How many coats are recommended?
> Your thoughts will be appreciated.
> Eric Smiths/v Red Mistress
>
  

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 15 18:51:14 2020
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:51:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint questions
In-Reply-To: <CACSd1jLyFuUNX+GCeWO_ZcQpnSzLUGWDSq=vi1x8X4KxkwWgWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1703060246.3629453.1583247004773@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CACSd1jLyFuUNX+GCeWO_ZcQpnSzLUGWDSq=vi1x8X4KxkwWgWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1554112797.3539762.1584312674384@mail.yahoo.com>

Eric?
For combo salt/fresh/brackish sailing I have used ablative as a better choice for DIY bottom maintenance and eventual repainting,? Also, check this on your boat. I discovered when I did the bottom of my '86 that a barrier coat had NEVER been put under the anti-fouling.? An excellent opportunity for blistering!? I had it taken down to the base surface and coated 2x barrier and 6x ablative.? The ablative will wear down and can be recoated by you sans boatyard.? Military veterans should know the 5 p's, it does apply. I suspect any of our skippers have their boat bottom checked for the barrier coat. I am certain that others will find the same as I did.??
Best sailing,
ArtMaryJane and MJ IILake Hartwell?


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 5:54 PM, Michael Corley<michael.4591 at gmail.com> wrote:   Not sure what GB uses, but I am going on my fourth season here on the
Southern Chesapeake since GB last redid my bottom.? I store it on the
trailer each winter, Dec - May.? The better quality the paint and the more
coats -? the longer between bottom painting.? Practical sailor has written
extensively about bottom paints.
I think you should ask other local sailors what they use in your area.

Mike Corley
S/V Ranger

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 9:50 AM eric w. smith via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Folks,
> I have a 1995 Rhodes 22 which I purchased from GB in 2004.? It was fully
> "recycled" at that time.? In 2015, after several years of freshwater use, I
> sent her back to GB for a full cleanup: new gel coat, bottom paint, sails,
> etc.? Thereafter, she sailed only in fresh water until 2019
> Last year I retired and moved to Florida.? My boat is now docked in the
> brackish and salt waters of the Indian River Lagoon/Fort Pierce Inlet on
> the Treasure Coast. we day sail in the Atlantic, just few miles out. I have
> a regular service for once a month in-water bottom cleaning which seems to
> hold the bottom growth in check.
> My questions are related to a new paint job for the bottom.? How long do
> GB or you knowledgeable Rhodies suggest before a new paint job?? Does GB
> use ablative paint or some other hybrid?? How many coats are recommended?
> Your thoughts will be appreciated.
> Eric Smiths/v Red Mistress
>
  

From jose.faraldo at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 19:48:06 2020
From: jose.faraldo at gmail.com (jose)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 16:48:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Garmin/Raymarine Wind Vanes
Message-ID: <1584316086239-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi all,

Hope everyone is staying safe out there. 

I was wondering whether anyone in the list has mounted a Garmin gWind
Transducer on the mast of a Rhodes22. Any problems? Any advice? Was it wired
down the mast or wireless?

https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-gWind-010-12117-20-Transducer-Only/dp/B00RYIH8P6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Garmin+gwind&qid=1584315681&sr=8-1

What about a Raymarine Wind Vane Transducer? 

https://www.amazon.com/RAYMARINE-MASTHEAD-ONLY-Latest-Version/dp/B018ZU9H7S/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Raymarine+wind+vane&qid=1584315801&sr=8-5

Thanks!

Jose
S/V Steady State
Herring Bay, MD



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Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From killarneylake at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 22:09:04 2020
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (KillarneyLake)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 19:09:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sassamansville to Honey Harbour Repositioning
In-Reply-To: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1583422482010-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1584324544732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

The journey is complete. One bearing is failing and was making a racket but
did not disintegrate before reaching Honey Harbour.

The mast top windex was mounted and I was filled with uncertainty about
whether or not to remove it but I decided to leave it in place. It seems to
have made the journey without detachment or damage.

A 2 inch drop hitch was not quite enough and a 3 1/4 was too much so I stuck
with the 2 inch.

Fuel economy in the rented Chevrolet Silverado was atrocious but the recent
Coronavirus pandemic related precipitous fuel price drop took the edge off
the cost.

The mast was unsupported in the middle of the span but also seems to be
undamaged.

The Queenston Lewiston Bridge border crossing went well and I had no
troubles with the import. The boat, trailer and contents are duty free under
NAFTA so I just had to pay applicable taxes. Since I am not a resident of
Pennsylvania, I did not pay PA taxes at closing.

Thanks to the list members that gave me advice.



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Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From jerry.keybl at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 14:16:30 2020
From: jerry.keybl at gmail.com (jerry.keybl)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:16:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Garmin/Raymarine Wind Vanes
In-Reply-To: <1584316086239-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1584316086239-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1584468990621-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I'm going on the same journey... ask me again in May :).

In all seriousness, i have rewired my mast, adding the  raymarine vane
<https://www.hodgesmarine.com/raye70150-raymarine-i60-wind-display-system-wmasthead-wind.html> 
, a  windex <https://www.davisinstruments.com/product/windex-10-sport/>  ,
and a f ancy anchor light / tri-color combo
<https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_82/chandlery/Converting-an-Anchor-Light-to-an-LED-Tricolor-Light_12280-1.html> 
.  I completed the mast work last weekend and it all looks good.

I'm going to use a cable clam to get the wires below deck and use a simple
terminal block to make the connections.  This work is waiting until I unwrap
the boat (it snowed outside of Boston today!).

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jerry

Pic from earlier before I added the windvane, but it fits on the front
starboard side of the top plate and extends forward.

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t914/unnamed.jpg> 



jose wrote
> Hi all,
> 
> Hope everyone is staying safe out there. 
> 
> I was wondering whether anyone in the list has mounted a Garmin gWind
> Transducer on the mast of a Rhodes22. Any problems? Any advice? Was it
> wired
> down the mast or wireless?
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-gWind-010-12117-20-Transducer-Only/dp/B00RYIH8P6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Garmin+gwind&qid=1584315681&sr=8-1
> 
> What about a Raymarine Wind Vane Transducer? 
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/RAYMARINE-MASTHEAD-ONLY-Latest-Version/dp/B018ZU9H7S/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Raymarine+wind+vane&qid=1584315801&sr=8-5
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jose
> S/V Steady State
> Herring Bay, MD
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/





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From chrismalley at gmail.com  Wed Mar 18 08:54:29 2020
From: chrismalley at gmail.com (Chris Malley)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 08:54:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] what is the oldest R22
In-Reply-To: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <648738779.1074878.1582832935138.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <648738779.1074878.1582832935138@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEaWqdn-W8=ojajiATGXa_9cMO+GAnF-eaD5-SzmrWKKt=xKYg@mail.gmail.com>

Pleiades was built in 1973 HIN # 00001800473.

-Chris

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:49 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> who has the oldest R22 ?  when was the first R22 built ?
>

From rweiss at siu.edu  Wed Mar 18 09:30:42 2020
From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 06:30:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 on KY Lake
Message-ID: <1584538242827-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I had my first sail of the season yesterday on Kentucky Lake out of
Lighthouse Landing and was pleasantly surprised to see what looks like a
brand new Rhodes 22 in the marina! Anyone on this list the owner? This is
the first Rhodes 22 I've seen here.  

Bob
Beach Spring



-----
Bob Weiss
Beach Spring
1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
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From bferguson at jcu.edu  Thu Mar 19 14:16:52 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:16:52 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
Message-ID: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

So I might be treading on thin ice with this topic, but since GBI doesn't
advertise in magazines (outside of the articles written about the R22), I
would think that all of us could be walking billboards.  We all sail the
most amazing 22-footer out there, what are the chances of the having a
Rhodes 22 (or GBI) ball cap or t-shirt sold on the parts page?  While not
sailing, I'm in charge of the Army ROTC program in and around Cleveland.  I
practically give away hats and t-shirts with our logo on it to get the word
out; the students become free advertisers.  There's all sorts of options
beyond hats and shirts, but since we're all committed to this company,
couldn't we show it off the water as well as on it.  I couldn't find
anywhere in the archives about an idea like this so I wanted to pitch it to
the crowd.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu Mar 19 14:27:43 2020
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
In-Reply-To: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <EE6B6F83-145D-4D49-912C-8AB2BA51F344@stottarchitecture.com>

I love the idea.
Ric 
Sv - Dadventure 
Hampton Bays 

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 





> On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> So I might be treading on thin ice with this topic, but since GBI doesn't
> advertise in magazines (outside of the articles written about the R22), I
> would think that all of us could be walking billboards.  We all sail the
> most amazing 22-footer out there, what are the chances of the having a
> Rhodes 22 (or GBI) ball cap or t-shirt sold on the parts page?  While not
> sailing, I'm in charge of the Army ROTC program in and around Cleveland.  I
> practically give away hats and t-shirts with our logo on it to get the word
> out; the students become free advertisers.  There's all sorts of options
> beyond hats and shirts, but since we're all committed to this company,
> couldn't we show it off the water as well as on it.  I couldn't find
> anywhere in the archives about an idea like this so I wanted to pitch it to
> the crowd.  
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From djbaines05 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 19 14:37:14 2020
From: djbaines05 at gmail.com (David Baines)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:37:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
In-Reply-To: <EE6B6F83-145D-4D49-912C-8AB2BA51F344@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <EE6B6F83-145D-4D49-912C-8AB2BA51F344@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <CAOpsRG3NgEjMTzoULE2HO1KWcFa_Feid8kBV6Zmenis+nO+iRA@mail.gmail.com>

Great idea, it's why I advocated people tagging Rhodes 22 on Instagram.
Let's get the product/brand out there. We need demand to ensure that Stan
will run the company for another 95 years ;)
DJ

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:27 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> I love the idea.
> Ric
> Sv - Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office  631-283-1777
> Cell            516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > So I might be treading on thin ice with this topic, but since GBI doesn't
> > advertise in magazines (outside of the articles written about the R22), I
> > would think that all of us could be walking billboards.  We all sail the
> > most amazing 22-footer out there, what are the chances of the having a
> > Rhodes 22 (or GBI) ball cap or t-shirt sold on the parts page?  While not
> > sailing, I'm in charge of the Army ROTC program in and around
> Cleveland.  I
> > practically give away hats and t-shirts with our logo on it to get the
> word
> > out; the students become free advertisers.  There's all sorts of options
> > beyond hats and shirts, but since we're all committed to this company,
> > couldn't we show it off the water as well as on it.  I couldn't find
> > anywhere in the archives about an idea like this so I wanted to pitch it
> to
> > the crowd.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Brian
> > 1976 Rhodes 22
> > Cleveland
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 19 18:59:51 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:59:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
In-Reply-To: <CAOpsRG3NgEjMTzoULE2HO1KWcFa_Feid8kBV6Zmenis+nO+iRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <EE6B6F83-145D-4D49-912C-8AB2BA51F344@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAOpsRG3NgEjMTzoULE2HO1KWcFa_Feid8kBV6Zmenis+nO+iRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMNrvGCw2pqj56pUFp8Buzc6C1-JxHyHdJWmDzZ3pE3ntQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well, it will certainly be an alternate revenue stream for Stan, as I'm
sure there will be some sort of licensing or royaly arrangement. But my .02
cents worth...  I never liked that oval blue and silver logo on the Rhodes
22 owner's website.

Todd T.

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 2:37 PM David Baines <djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea, it's why I advocated people tagging Rhodes 22 on Instagram.
> Let's get the product/brand out there. We need demand to ensure that Stan
> will run the company for another 95 years ;)
> DJ
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:27 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I love the idea.
> > Ric
> > Sv - Dadventure
> > Hampton Bays
> >
> > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> > www.stottarchitecture.com
> > Office  631-283-1777
> > Cell            516-965-3164
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > So I might be treading on thin ice with this topic, but since GBI
> doesn't
> > > advertise in magazines (outside of the articles written about the
> R22), I
> > > would think that all of us could be walking billboards.  We all sail
> the
> > > most amazing 22-footer out there, what are the chances of the having a
> > > Rhodes 22 (or GBI) ball cap or t-shirt sold on the parts page?  While
> not
> > > sailing, I'm in charge of the Army ROTC program in and around
> > Cleveland.  I
> > > practically give away hats and t-shirts with our logo on it to get the
> > word
> > > out; the students become free advertisers.  There's all sorts of
> options
> > > beyond hats and shirts, but since we're all committed to this company,
> > > couldn't we show it off the water as well as on it.  I couldn't find
> > > anywhere in the archives about an idea like this so I wanted to pitch
> it
> > to
> > > the crowd.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Brian
> > > 1976 Rhodes 22
> > > Cleveland
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
> >
>

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Fri Mar 20 08:55:44 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:55:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMNrvGCw2pqj56pUFp8Buzc6C1-JxHyHdJWmDzZ3pE3ntQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <EE6B6F83-145D-4D49-912C-8AB2BA51F344@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAOpsRG3NgEjMTzoULE2HO1KWcFa_Feid8kBV6Zmenis+nO+iRA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAB-twMNrvGCw2pqj56pUFp8Buzc6C1-JxHyHdJWmDzZ3pE3ntQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1293808071.904401.1584708945163@mail.yahoo.com>

todd I like blue oval see pic?


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Mar 19, 2020 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag

Well, it will certainly be an alternate revenue stream for Stan, as I'm
sure there will be some sort of licensing or royaly arrangement. But my .02
cents worth...? I never liked that oval blue and silver logo on the Rhodes
22 owner's website.

Todd T.

tavares0947 at gmail.com

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 2:37 PM David Baines <djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea, it's why I advocated people tagging Rhodes 22 on Instagram.
> Let's get the product/brand out there. We need demand to ensure that Stan
> will run the company for another 95 years ;)
> DJ
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:27 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I love the idea.
> > Ric
> > Sv - Dadventure
> > Hampton Bays
> >
> > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> > www.stottarchitecture.com
> > Office? 631-283-1777
> > Cell? ? ? ? ? ? 516-965-3164
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > So I might be treading on thin ice with this topic, but since GBI
> doesn't
> > > advertise in magazines (outside of the articles written about the
> R22), I
> > > would think that all of us could be walking billboards.? We all sail
> the
> > > most amazing 22-footer out there, what are the chances of the having a
> > > Rhodes 22 (or GBI) ball cap or t-shirt sold on the parts page?? While
> not
> > > sailing, I'm in charge of the Army ROTC program in and around
> > Cleveland.? I
> > > practically give away hats and t-shirts with our logo on it to get the
> > word
> > > out; the students become free advertisers.? There's all sorts of
> options
> > > beyond hats and shirts, but since we're all committed to this company,
> > > couldn't we show it off the water as well as on it.? I couldn't find
> > > anywhere in the archives about an idea like this so I wanted to pitch
> it
> > to
> > > the crowd.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Brian
> > > 1976 Rhodes 22
> > > Cleveland
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
> >
>
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From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 16:23:10 2020
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 16:23:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
In-Reply-To: <1293808071.904401.1584708945163@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <EE6B6F83-145D-4D49-912C-8AB2BA51F344@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAOpsRG3NgEjMTzoULE2HO1KWcFa_Feid8kBV6Zmenis+nO+iRA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB-twMNjPVVX3hGczPHAWwd4R4tmP6PSvQ_ACnmq1LADSD+gyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,
I'm a little slow on the uptake today...
I had to open two pics before I got the joke.

This is the logo I don't like, because it doesn't show detail and the text
is wrong (IMHO of course).
Todd T.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 09:23 Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> todd I like blue oval see pic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 19, 2020 6:59 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
>
> Well, it will certainly be an alternate revenue stream for Stan, as I'm
> sure there will be some sort of licensing or royaly arrangement. But my .02
> cents worth...  I never liked that oval blue and silver logo on the Rhodes
> 22 owner's website.
>
> Todd T.
>
> tavares0947 at gmail.com
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 2:37 PM David Baines <djbaines05 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Great idea, it's why I advocated people tagging Rhodes 22 on Instagram.
> > Let's get the product/brand out there. We need demand to ensure that Stan
> > will run the company for another 95 years ;)
> > DJ
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:27 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I love the idea.
> > > Ric
> > > Sv - Dadventure
> > > Hampton Bays
> > >
> > > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> > > www.stottarchitecture.com
> > > Office  631-283-1777
> > > Cell            516-965-3164
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <
> > > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So I might be treading on thin ice with this topic, but since GBI
> > doesn't
> > > > advertise in magazines (outside of the articles written about the
> > R22), I
> > > > would think that all of us could be walking billboards.  We all sail
> > the
> > > > most amazing 22-footer out there, what are the chances of the having
> a
> > > > Rhodes 22 (or GBI) ball cap or t-shirt sold on the parts page?  While
> > not
> > > > sailing, I'm in charge of the Army ROTC program in and around
> > > Cleveland.  I
> > > > practically give away hats and t-shirts with our logo on it to get
> the
> > > word
> > > > out; the students become free advertisers.  There's all sorts of
> > options
> > > > beyond hats and shirts, but since we're all committed to this
> company,
> > > > couldn't we show it off the water as well as on it.  I couldn't find
> > > > anywhere in the archives about an idea like this so I wanted to pitch
> > it
> > > to
> > > > the crowd.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Brian
> > > > 1976 Rhodes 22
> > > > Cleveland
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
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From tvpolise at aol.com  Thu Mar 26 14:54:55 2020
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 14:54:55 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
References: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2.ref@aol.com>
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Does anybody know where I can order this switch?

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From jfn302 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 26 15:03:50 2020
From: jfn302 at yahoo.com (jfn302 at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 14:03:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
In-Reply-To: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2@aol.com>
References: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2.ref@aol.com>
 <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3fc201d603a1$4a1e3540$de5a9fc0$@yahoo.com>

You can use pretty much any selector switch, like this one:
https://amzn.to/2wI97jl

All the switch is doing is changing the direction of the power applied to
the motor.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of THOMAS
POLISE via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 1:55 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch

Does anybody know where I can order this switch?

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From bferguson at jcu.edu  Thu Mar 26 15:36:21 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (Ferguson, Brian)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 15:36:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
In-Reply-To: <3fc201d603a1$4a1e3540$de5a9fc0$@yahoo.com>
References: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2.ref@aol.com>
 <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2@aol.com>
 <3fc201d603a1$4a1e3540$de5a9fc0$@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAELqdBrPVqPq1oy5VZjNDxRTWQDoxX4aoSJV4qWgv=1JKXVxPg@mail.gmail.com>

Before ordering on Amazon check their shipping dates. Items we need for our
boats are getting a lower shipping priority and could be as much as month
delay even with Prime.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 15:03 James Nichols via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> You can use pretty much any selector switch, like this one:
> https://amzn.to/2wI97jl
>
> All the switch is doing is changing the direction of the power applied to
> the motor.
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> THOMAS
> POLISE via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 1:55 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
>
> Does anybody know where I can order this switch?
>
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> --
Respectfully,

Brian A. Ferguson, LTC
John Carroll University, ROTC PMS
7th BDE, U.S. Army Cadet Command
O: (216) 397-4421
Cleveland's ROTC Battalion

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Mar 26 16:14:56 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:14:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
In-Reply-To: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2@aol.com>
References: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2.ref@aol.com>
 <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002d01d603ab$391c3850$ab54a8f0$@ebsmed.com>

Thomas,

The switch was made by Warn Industries. Your winch is probably the DC1700
model which is discontinued.  The nearest replacement is the DC2000 (p/n
92000).

Gary Felix documented his Amazon $99 solution in the following posting:
Motor Lift Failure and Repair
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2019-September/083504.html

The specs webpage for the DC2000 (p/n 92000) Utility Winch:
https://www.warn.com/dc-2000-winch-92000

DC2000 Utility Winch User Guide:
https://www.warn.com/Attachment/DownloadFile?downloadId=891

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I'd rather be sailing :~)
         ___/)_
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of THOMAS
POLISE via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:55 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch

Does anybody know where I can order this switch?

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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 19:12:38 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:12:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
In-Reply-To: <002d01d603ab$391c3850$ab54a8f0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <43CAC971-8901-4EDA-9645-154E92087CA2@aol.com>
 <002d01d603ab$391c3850$ab54a8f0$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <1585264358510-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

If you decide to go ahead and replace the motor lift winch rather than just
installing a new switch, I documented that process in November.  The winch
that I got was $130 from Amazon, and it came with a wired switch and two
remotes.  More details are at the link below:

http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Replacement-of-winch-for-motor-lift-tt56157.html

Good luck!




--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From tvpolise at aol.com  Thu Mar 26 19:36:00 2020
From: tvpolise at aol.com (Thomas Polise)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:36:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift switch
In-Reply-To: <1585264358510-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585264358510-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <12115331-AC5C-452F-A61F-77AC7A1EEE51@aol.com>

Thank you!

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 7:12 PM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?If you decide to go ahead and replace the motor lift winch rather than just
> installing a new switch, I documented that process in November.  The winch
> that I got was $130 from Amazon, and it came with a wired switch and two
> remotes.  More details are at the link below:
> 
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Replacement-of-winch-for-motor-lift-tt56157.html
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Mar 27 12:39:21 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 09:39:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats swag
In-Reply-To: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1584641812530-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1585327161605-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Great minds think alike. I had some polos and caps made up a couple of years
ago for the use by me, the Admiral and Crew of Respite. Stan recently told
me he's planning a line of swag for ROC members. (I am now an official ROC
member!) Says he will be rolling it out soon.  I suggested a burgee which he
really liked.  I believe that showing the esprit of members of the Rhodes
"fleet" will bring this unbelievable vessel into the public eye for what it
really is. Not only is it the longest running sailboat design but also the
the most innovative and versitile. As far as a logo is concerned, I suggest
either the "Rhodes 22" Times Roman font as on the cabin plaque or the R/22
Arial font on the Mainsail.

I've attached photos of our Respite caps and burgee design that I submitted
to Stan.

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Respite_Cap_Blue.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Respite_Cap_White.png> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Respite_Cap_Logo.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Respite_Cap_Captain.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t752/Respite_Owner_s_Signal%282%29.jpg> 



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From robert at pamayared.com  Fri Mar 27 20:32:03 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (Robert@ Pamaya Red)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 20:32:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJM+vrt8KLQs-zHUJSy9PKUuKrUcaoCFs+rDeCJEA9UGDuBrVw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Steven
Hope all is well with you.
Thought that since most of us are home these days, did you have time to
look for the pop top enclosure. I realize might not be putting boats in the
water until this virus ends or at least lightens up, but would like to buy
it from you when you find it.
Thanks and stay safe
Robert

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:27 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give me
> some time to dig through my debris.
>
>
> *Stephen Staum*
> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>
> *Needham, MA*
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>
> > Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if
> year
> > means anything but would like to find one by April
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
>

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Sat Mar 28 13:20:28 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:20:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1585416028420-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I bought one from Stan last year. It was second hand like new. He's got
several in stock.



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From gramille at tds.net  Sun Mar 29 12:12:51 2020
From: gramille at tds.net (gramille)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 09:12:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
Message-ID: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing to
get in some sailing.?
 Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open. What
are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
Pax
Graham



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From sea20 at verizon.net  Sun Mar 29 12:53:52 2020
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:53:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <DA8BCE26-E9C4-4A03-A8D5-578530606998@verizon.net>

We are postponing launch in Delaware until state guidelines allow people to gather in groups again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing to
> get in some sailing.?
> Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open. What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun Mar 29 13:08:41 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:08:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <E2AB07F6-9365-4CEC-A9B0-80B90A840BC0@sunnybeeches.com>

In Connecticut, marinas have been categorized as ?essential businesses?.  However, the marina that I use has told their customers that for the time being they are not welcome on marina property.  I launch at a public boat ramp next to the marina.  I have no idea what the status of those is. 

None of that matters at the moment, since the boat is still under it?s tarp, and I have a long list of projects to do before launching.  At least Defender is still shipping.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing to
> get in some sailing.?
> Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open. What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From tvpolise at aol.com  Sun Mar 29 13:31:19 2020
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure
References: <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D@aol.com>

Just curious if anyone has dealt with this before.  My port chainplate upper portion loosened and cracked top deck.  The chainplate is secure but I was surprised that it was 2 pieces which allowed it to move forward and back and not bolted in 4 places.  My thoughts are to replace with a solid ?T? chainplate and then repair deck.  

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From snstaum at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 13:36:48 2020
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:36:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_Fjcdr49P6Es6jF8TvnLFSns1Pm_HmhA2zQTmaqwbr6SW+g@mail.gmail.com>

In the Boston area my marina in Hingham still has me scheduled for a May
4th launch.  Subject to change of course.

Stay tuned.

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:12 PM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing
> to
> get in some sailing.?
>  Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open.
> What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
-- 
Stephen Staum
Pariser Industries, Inc.

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 13:39:11 2020
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:39:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAJM+vrt8KLQs-zHUJSy9PKUuKrUcaoCFs+rDeCJEA9UGDuBrVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
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Robert,

I have a dumpster coming tomorrow & cleanup begins. Stay tuned.

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 8:32 PM Robert@ Pamaya Red <robert at pamayared.com>
wrote:

> Hey Steven
> Hope all is well with you.
> Thought that since most of us are home these days, did you have time to
> look for the pop top enclosure. I realize might not be putting boats in the
> water until this virus ends or at least lightens up, but would like to buy
> it from you when you find it.
> Thanks and stay safe
> Robert
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:27 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give me
> > some time to dig through my debris.
> >
> >
> > *Stephen Staum*
> > *s/v Carol Lee 2*
> >
> > *Needham, MA*
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if
> > year
> > > means anything but would like to find one by April
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > >
> >
>
-- 
Stephen Staum
Pariser Industries, Inc.

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Mar 29 15:17:20 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:17:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure
In-Reply-To: <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D@aol.com>
References: <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D.ref@aol.com>
 <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D@aol.com>
Message-ID: <04f001d605fe$ad9e19a0$08da4ce0$@ca>

Thomas:

The chainplates on my 76 were simply stainless tangs that were bent into an "L" shape with the horizontal piece inserted between the cabin liner and the core and held in place with a single short screw. Of course the screws loosened over time and the tang in turn rattled about loosely. While it seemed to be strong enough I didn't like it moving about so I removed them all and replaced them with special stainless eyebolts as shown in the attached photos. 

I used a grinder to remove the old chain plates. As it turned out I could have removed them more easily by removing some of the liner but at the time I didn't realize that the hardware was under the core rather than embedded into it.

Note that I hollowed out the area around the hole where the eyebolt went through the cabin top and filled the hollow including any void between the liner and the core with thickened epoxy. One the epoxy had set, but BEFORE it cured, I re-drilled the hole. I used butyl tape as the sealant and added large washers on the inside to widen the load. This strengthened the deck in the area and sealed the core from any water penetration. It all seems very solid now.

Graham


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario





-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:31 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure

Just curious if anyone has dealt with this before.  My port chainplate upper portion loosened and cracked top deck.  The chainplate is secure but I was surprised that it was 2 pieces which allowed it to move forward and back and not bolted in 4 places.  My thoughts are to replace with a solid ?T? chainplate and then repair deck.  

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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Mar 29 15:37:30 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:37:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_Fjcdr49P6Es6jF8TvnLFSns1Pm_HmhA2zQTmaqwbr6SW+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_Fjcdr49P6Es6jF8TvnLFSns1Pm_HmhA2zQTmaqwbr6SW+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <050901d60601$7db20140$791603c0$@ca>

Last year the water level on lake Ontario was so high I was unable to launch so I really don't want to miss another year as I don't have any years left to spare. I keep the boat at my property so I don't use a marina and launch at an unstaffed public ramp. I expect that launching and sailing would not break any of the distancing provisions in effect in Ontario. As far a catching the the covid virus, I can't imagine a safer place to be than on my boat.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:37 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well

In the Boston area my marina in Hingham still has me scheduled for a May
4th launch.  Subject to change of course.

Stay tuned.

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:12 PM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing
> to
> get in some sailing.?
>  Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open.
> What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
-- 
Stephen Staum
Pariser Industries, Inc.


From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 17:26:28 2020
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:26:28 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuNJEgq9YpKtmyrM=a2O8JMdL0t7Zgxnpgzp9g9FG0QE8A@mail.gmail.com>

Looks as if there will no sailing at Fern Ridge this year. Water level is
some 17 inches below normal.

Sigh,

Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo



On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 9:12 AM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing
> to
> get in some sailing.?
>  Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open.
> What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 18:23:16 2020
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (JeffSmith)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:23:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

My wife Emily and I recently bought R22 "Opus" from Chris Cowie at Voilier
Yachts and have renamed her (it? them? their? I'm so confused... ) "Radiant"
after our last boat, a J/30.  With the Corona Viris lock down in NJ, our, 3
blocks away, Atlantic Highlands Municipal Marina  plans on being open - so
far. 
We hope to store the boat with the mast up on the trailer and launch HER (I
have decided) for the weekend and keep her on anchor 'til we retrieve her. . 
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done similar and their
thoughts. 





--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From hnw555 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 18:31:25 2020
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:31:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADQNfMCyZ8tdrDJAzO2MuxWnte2ao0cbZdDnKZG5S81ENB8tYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Her.  Boats are always her, unless you are Russian.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:23 PM JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:

> My wife Emily and I recently bought R22 "Opus" from Chris Cowie at Voilier
> Yachts and have renamed her (it? them? their? I'm so confused... )
> "Radiant"
> after our last boat, a J/30.  With the Corona Viris lock down in NJ, our, 3
> blocks away, Atlantic Highlands Municipal Marina  plans on being open - so
> far.
> We hope to store the boat with the mast up on the trailer and launch HER (I
> have decided) for the weekend and keep her on anchor 'til we retrieve her.
> .
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done similar and their
> thoughts.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun Mar 29 21:48:48 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:48:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1C868166-42B5-4173-9EFE-10DF51A5BDEB@sunnybeeches.com>

Jeff,

Congratulations on your recent acquisition.

I?m not clear on the details of your plan, but it sounds like you might be thinking of leaving your boat anchored for extended periods (i.e. hours) while you are not on board.  This is just my personal opinion, but this is not a plan that I would be comfortable with.  Your insurance company probably wouldn?t be too comfortable with this plan either.

If I?ve misinterpreted your intentions, please just ignore this.

?Peter


> On Mar 29, 2020, at 6:23 PM, JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My wife Emily and I recently bought R22 "Opus" from Chris Cowie at Voilier
> Yachts and have renamed her (it? them? their? I'm so confused... ) "Radiant"
> after our last boat, a J/30.  With the Corona Viris lock down in NJ, our, 3
> blocks away, Atlantic Highlands Municipal Marina  plans on being open - so
> far. 
> We hope to store the boat with the mast up on the trailer and launch HER (I
> have decided) for the weekend and keep her on anchor 'til we retrieve her. . 
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done similar and their
> thoughts. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Mar 30 06:36:00 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 06:36:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <050901d60601$7db20140$791603c0$@ca>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_Fjcdr49P6Es6jF8TvnLFSns1Pm_HmhA2zQTmaqwbr6SW+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <050901d60601$7db20140$791603c0$@ca>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUOoFFtSaPcc4bhFVGJcTaw1gdOMYDOwt1gXOjzNxVqnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greece is closed,  my flights are cancelled so I can?t even get to the
boat. Arrgh. So no Rhodes sailing this summer. On the bright we have been
sheltering on Enosis II in the Bahamas. Tragic closure of all liquor stores
and restaurants. The whole Bahamas is closed to any new boats. On the
serious side it will be tough economically for the people. Our son and his
wife and daughter have joined us for a month. Then back to the US. Not sure
what w e.g. will do.
Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS I. &. II

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 15:37, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Last year the water level on lake Ontario was so high I was unable to
> launch so I really don't want to miss another year as I don't have any
> years left to spare. I keep the boat at my property so I don't use a marina
> and launch at an unstaffed public ramp. I expect that launching and sailing
> would not break any of the distancing provisions in effect in Ontario. As
> far a catching the the covid virus, I can't imagine a safer place to be
> than on my boat.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Stephen Staum
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
>
> In the Boston area my marina in Hingham still has me scheduled for a May
> 4th launch.  Subject to change of course.
>
> Stay tuned.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:12 PM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>
> > I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing
> > to
> > get in some sailing.?
> >  Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> > snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> > anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open.
> > What
> > are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> > precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> > Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> > Pax
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
> --
> Stephen Staum
> Pariser Industries, Inc.
>
>

From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Mon Mar 30 07:43:20 2020
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:43:20 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1C868166-42B5-4173-9EFE-10DF51A5BDEB@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>,
 <1C868166-42B5-4173-9EFE-10DF51A5BDEB@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <03F83544-977F-44CE-BEBB-6E6D0DE0E6F5@cowieassociates.com>

Jeff:
Anchors may drag so I am not sure that is a good idea.  A more substantial mooring type anchor would be fine.  The boat is very easy to launch and retrieve with the mast up if you have a dry dock option at the marina that accommodates a mast up storage and that might be a better idea.


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On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:49 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

?Jeff,

Congratulations on your recent acquisition.

I?m not clear on the details of your plan, but it sounds like you might be thinking of leaving your boat anchored for extended periods (i.e. hours) while you are not on board.  This is just my personal opinion, but this is not a plan that I would be comfortable with.  Your insurance company probably wouldn?t be too comfortable with this plan either.

If I?ve misinterpreted your intentions, please just ignore this.

?Peter


On Mar 29, 2020, at 6:23 PM, JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:

My wife Emily and I recently bought R22 "Opus" from Chris Cowie at Voilier
Yachts and have renamed her (it? them? their? I'm so confused... ) "Radiant"
after our last boat, a J/30.  With the Corona Viris lock down in NJ, our, 3
blocks away, Atlantic Highlands Municipal Marina  plans on being open - so
far.
We hope to store the boat with the mast up on the trailer and launch HER (I
have decided) for the weekend and keep her on anchor 'til we retrieve her. .
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done similar and their
thoughts.





--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From rlowe at vt.edu  Mon Mar 30 08:28:32 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 12:28:32 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1C868166-42B5-4173-9EFE-10DF51A5BDEB@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>,
 <1C868166-42B5-4173-9EFE-10DF51A5BDEB@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB694151AC88CCD1C707CCC8F2C1CB0@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Jeff,
Are you going to leave her (yes, boats are she?s) at anchor or on a mooring ball? Don?t believe at anchor is a good idea but a well maintained mooring ball might work. You might be able to leave at anchor overnight but I would not be comfortable with that. Does the marina have transient slips you could use for overnights? - rob
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:48:48 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well

Jeff,

Congratulations on your recent acquisition.

I?m not clear on the details of your plan, but it sounds like you might be thinking of leaving your boat anchored for extended periods (i.e. hours) while you are not on board.  This is just my personal opinion, but this is not a plan that I would be comfortable with.  Your insurance company probably wouldn?t be too comfortable with this plan either.

If I?ve misinterpreted your intentions, please just ignore this.

?Peter


> On Mar 29, 2020, at 6:23 PM, JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My wife Emily and I recently bought R22 "Opus" from Chris Cowie at Voilier
> Yachts and have renamed her (it? them? their? I'm so confused... ) "Radiant"
> after our last boat, a J/30.  With the Corona Viris lock down in NJ, our, 3
> blocks away, Atlantic Highlands Municipal Marina  plans on being open - so
> far.
> We hope to store the boat with the mast up on the trailer and launch HER (I
> have decided) for the weekend and keep her on anchor 'til we retrieve her. .
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done similar and their
> thoughts.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Mar 30 09:58:48 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:58:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
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Chris:
Odd how the freedom of sailing can become a prison under these circumstances. Wishing you all the very best and hope this resolves itself for you quickly.
Your posts are never boring.
Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 6:36 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well

Greece is closed,  my flights are cancelled so I can?t even get to the
boat. Arrgh. So no Rhodes sailing this summer. On the bright we have been
sheltering on Enosis II in the Bahamas. Tragic closure of all liquor stores
and restaurants. The whole Bahamas is closed to any new boats. On the
serious side it will be tough economically for the people. Our son and his
wife and daughter have joined us for a month. Then back to the US. Not sure
what w e.g. will do.
Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS I. &. II

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 15:37, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Last year the water level on lake Ontario was so high I was unable to
> launch so I really don't want to miss another year as I don't have any
> years left to spare. I keep the boat at my property so I don't use a marina
> and launch at an unstaffed public ramp. I expect that launching and sailing
> would not break any of the distancing provisions in effect in Ontario. As
> far a catching the the covid virus, I can't imagine a safer place to be
> than on my boat.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Stephen Staum
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
>
> In the Boston area my marina in Hingham still has me scheduled for a May
> 4th launch.  Subject to change of course.
>
> Stay tuned.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:12 PM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>
> > I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing
> > to
> > get in some sailing.?
> >  Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> > snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> > anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open.
> > What
> > are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> > precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> > Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> > Pax
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
> --
> Stephen Staum
> Pariser Industries, Inc.
>
>


From stan at generalboats.com  Mon Mar 30 10:10:06 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:10:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure
In-Reply-To: <04f001d605fe$ad9e19a0$08da4ce0$@ca>
References: <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D.ref@aol.com>
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With G. Stewart and Thomas both members of ROC, I have to step into this 
one.? Graham's word is gospel - if both parties are talking about the 
same issue.? However that is not the case in this case.? Thomas's issue 
is with his upper shroud chain plates; they are bolted through both the 
hull and deck laminations where they overlap.? In our historical 
knowledge they have never failed, nor has Thomas's. His upper shroud 
chain plate has been subjected to a horrific force that has caused it to 
pivot slightly aft resulting in gel coat damage while his boat remains 
safely sailable as is.

Graham is talking about the 4 lower shroud chain plates.? (The jobs of 
the lower shrouds are to prevent mast pumping and to make the GB cross 
over mast hoist system work.)? If Graham's 45 year old Rhodes also has 
its upper shroud chain plates connected to the cabin trunk roof, I am 
too young to remember that ever being done.? It must have been some 
in-between owner along the way trying to improve on Phil Rhodes design.

stan



On 3/29/20 3:17 PM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> Thomas:
>
> The chainplates on my 76 were simply stainless tangs that were bent into an "L" shape with the horizontal piece inserted between the cabin liner and the core and held in place with a single short screw. Of course the screws loosened over time and the tang in turn rattled about loosely. While it seemed to be strong enough I didn't like it moving about so I removed them all and replaced them with special stainless eyebolts as shown in the attached photos.
>
> I used a grinder to remove the old chain plates. As it turned out I could have removed them more easily by removing some of the liner but at the time I didn't realize that the hardware was under the core rather than embedded into it.
>
> Note that I hollowed out the area around the hole where the eyebolt went through the cabin top and filled the hollow including any void between the liner and the core with thickened epoxy. One the epoxy had set, but BEFORE it cured, I re-drilled the hole. I used butyl tape as the sealant and added large washers on the inside to widen the load. This strengthened the deck in the area and sealed the core from any water penetration. It all seems very solid now.
>
> Graham
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:31 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure
>
> Just curious if anyone has dealt with this before.  My port chainplate upper portion loosened and cracked top deck.  The chainplate is secure but I was surprised that it was 2 pieces which allowed it to move forward and back and not bolted in 4 places.  My thoughts are to replace with a solid ?T? chainplate and then repair deck.
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Mar 30 10:18:18 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:18:18 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
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Jeff:

I keep my boat at my home at my dock but in the fall the water drops on lake
Ontario to the point where I have insufficient depth. At that point I moor
the boat in the bay using a mooring I made of steel and concrete that I
guess weights 500 lbs or so. Three or for other boats have been kept on
moorings here the entire season for decades.

Several years ago the chain for one of the boats broke and the boat was
washed ashore. The lesson here is that the owner shackled the mooring chain
directly to the boat - which one should never do. You want the chain to end
at the mooring float and the boat tied to the float with sufficiently strong
and chafe-protected lines. This provides some elasticity to the whole
system. The constant jerking on a chain can easily break it.

Also, make sure that the rudder is well secured and tied facing forward.
Once, in rough circumstances, the lower gudgeon popped out and the rudder
thrashed about for probably a day or more causing a lot of scratches and
gouges to the transom of the boat. I was lucky not to lose rudder.

When properly secured and with adequate mooring weight the boats can weather
through very rough waters. 

Graham



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Lowe, Rob
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:29 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well

Jeff,
Are you going to leave her (yes, boats are she's) at anchor or on a mooring
ball? Don't believe at anchor is a good idea but a well maintained mooring
ball might work. You might be able to leave at anchor overnight but I would
not be comfortable with that. Does the marina have transient slips you could
use for overnights? - rob
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter
Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:48:48 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well

Jeff,

Congratulations on your recent acquisition.

I'm not clear on the details of your plan, but it sounds like you might be
thinking of leaving your boat anchored for extended periods (i.e. hours)
while you are not on board.  This is just my personal opinion, but this is
not a plan that I would be comfortable with.  Your insurance company
probably wouldn't be too comfortable with this plan either.

If I've misinterpreted your intentions, please just ignore this.

-Peter


> On Mar 29, 2020, at 6:23 PM, JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My wife Emily and I recently bought R22 "Opus" from Chris Cowie at Voilier
> Yachts and have renamed her (it? them? their? I'm so confused... )
"Radiant"
> after our last boat, a J/30.  With the Corona Viris lock down in NJ, our,
3
> blocks away, Atlantic Highlands Municipal Marina  plans on being open - so
> far.
> We hope to store the boat with the mast up on the trailer and launch HER
(I
> have decided) for the weekend and keep her on anchor 'til we retrieve her.
.
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has done similar and their
> thoughts.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Mar 30 11:18:25 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:18:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure
In-Reply-To: <61bf1056-8f79-7729-85df-83424abd9a2e@generalboats.com>
References: <48236E77-204D-4DF0-8A26-1F4E3EA5571D.ref@aol.com>
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Stan is right, of course. I was thinking of the lower chain plates. The lower shrouds are attached up high on the cabin top while the upper shrouds are attached lower down on the hull sides. For some reason that confuses me. I am looking at the wrong end of the shrouds.

While I was doing my reno I was able to examine the upper chain plates but left them alone  as it seemed to me that the configuration was fine. The main chainplate is bolted to a cross piece that in turn is bolted to the gunnels in, as I recall, three places. That seemed quite substantial to me for a 22' boat.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 10:10 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure

With G. Stewart and Thomas both members of ROC, I have to step into this 
one.  Graham's word is gospel - if both parties are talking about the 
same issue.  However that is not the case in this case.  Thomas's issue 
is with his upper shroud chain plates; they are bolted through both the 
hull and deck laminations where they overlap.  In our historical 
knowledge they have never failed, nor has Thomas's. His upper shroud 
chain plate has been subjected to a horrific force that has caused it to 
pivot slightly aft resulting in gel coat damage while his boat remains 
safely sailable as is.

Graham is talking about the 4 lower shroud chain plates.  (The jobs of 
the lower shrouds are to prevent mast pumping and to make the GB cross 
over mast hoist system work.)  If Graham's 45 year old Rhodes also has 
its upper shroud chain plates connected to the cabin trunk roof, I am 
too young to remember that ever being done.  It must have been some 
in-between owner along the way trying to improve on Phil Rhodes design.

stan



On 3/29/20 3:17 PM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> Thomas:
>
> The chainplates on my 76 were simply stainless tangs that were bent into an "L" shape with the horizontal piece inserted between the cabin liner and the core and held in place with a single short screw. Of course the screws loosened over time and the tang in turn rattled about loosely. While it seemed to be strong enough I didn't like it moving about so I removed them all and replaced them with special stainless eyebolts as shown in the attached photos.
>
> I used a grinder to remove the old chain plates. As it turned out I could have removed them more easily by removing some of the liner but at the time I didn't realize that the hardware was under the core rather than embedded into it.
>
> Note that I hollowed out the area around the hole where the eyebolt went through the cabin top and filled the hollow including any void between the liner and the core with thickened epoxy. One the epoxy had set, but BEFORE it cured, I re-drilled the hole. I used butyl tape as the sealant and added large washers on the inside to widen the load. This strengthened the deck in the area and sealed the core from any water penetration. It all seems very solid now.
>
> Graham
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:31 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chainplate failure
>
> Just curious if anyone has dealt with this before.  My port chainplate upper portion loosened and cracked top deck.  The chainplate is secure but I was surprised that it was 2 pieces which allowed it to move forward and back and not bolted in 4 places.  My thoughts are to replace with a solid ?T? chainplate and then repair deck.
>
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Mar 30 11:37:06 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:37:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: sailing and new dingy
In-Reply-To: <135401006.714396.1585580236471@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <135401006.714396.1585580236471.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I think that Mark wanted this directed to the list, not the list admin (owner).

 

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

 

 

 

From: Rhodes22-list <mailman-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Mark West
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 10:57 AM
To: rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org
Subject: sailing and new dingy

 

Hope all is well with with everyone and family's . Stan I wanted to stop by but until this stuff is over you probably should not  have visitors . finished the dingy project except getting sail made or trying to make it myself .  Just building this small project makes me respect what real bout builders must go through see pic

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From hnw555 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 30 11:43:48 2020
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:43:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
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For those of you in Maryland, Gov. Hogan just announced a statewide
lockdown beginning at 8 pm tonight.  Probably a good decision.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:12 PM gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing
> to
> get in some sailing.?
>  Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open.
> What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Mon Mar 30 12:12:42 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 12:12:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: sailing and new dingy
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Mark, beautiful.? Always an opening at GB for such skills.

stan

On 3/30/20 11:37 AM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> I think that Mark wanted this directed to the list, not the list admin (owner).
>
>   
>
> Mike
>
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> From: Rhodes22-list <mailman-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Mark West
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 10:57 AM
> To: rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org
> Subject: sailing and new dingy
>
>   
>
> Hope all is well with with everyone and family's . Stan I wanted to stop by but until this stuff is over you probably should not  have visitors . finished the dingy project except getting sail made or trying to make it myself .  Just building this small project makes me respect what real bout builders must go through see pic
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From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com  Mon Mar 30 12:57:33 2020
From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 12:57:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
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References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <97238101-856F-49A4-8A04-15F36E2F28ED@gmail.com>

Ramps are open and the weather is fine in Florida.  The State troopers are stopping all cars from New York however to have them enter into a 14 day quarantine.

Bob (palatka)

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, gramille <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I hope everyone is staying healthy and that some of you are even managing to
> get in some sailing.?
> Here in Vermont we are sheltering in place. Truthfully we had a foot of
> snow last week so it would not be quite time to be unwrapping my boat
> anyway. I am concerned that my marina my be refused permission to open. What
> are other peoples experiences and expectations? Hopefully these isolation
> precautions will work and we can get back to near normal by summer.
> Keep your spirits up but stay vigilant.
> Pax
> Graham
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Mon Mar 30 13:27:09 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:27:09 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
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References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Not a good idea unless your anchor is a mooring (mushroom) anchor well buried
and sited in the anchorage.  Otherwise, you may return to find her (Yes! we
have no identity problems with our boats!) either on a sea wall or parked in
the lines of a nearby slip. And yes, your insurance company would not be
happy. Actually, they may not care since they wouldn't cover your damage. 
Good luck.



-----
Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From dwbrad at gmail.com  Mon Mar 30 21:02:02 2020
From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 21:02:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Stan
In-Reply-To: <4cba6aea-848d-0dfe-4692-221ac543ba1f@generalboats.com>
References: <135401006.714396.1585580236471.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <4cba6aea-848d-0dfe-4692-221ac543ba1f@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <114884A3-AC54-4BFB-90FC-552A512525BE@gmail.com>

Stan, writing to you on da list.  My direct emails to you have been returned for some reason.

Just wanted to let you know that the new mainsail arrived in fine shape along with the replacement for the outhaul car.  Thanks for everything.

What do I owe you for the outhaul car?

You can email me at dwbrad at gmail.com <mailto:dwbrad at gmail.com>.

Hope you and all on the list are safe and weathering the viral storm.  

Dave B
s/v Sea Cloud
Old Greenwich, CT

From robert at pamayared.com  Tue Mar 31 11:15:39 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (Robert@ Pamaya Red)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:15:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjfmhUgGnUO_Rv4woDpgm8F=LbzSR7CE8XFpbPx110XTgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJM+vrt8KLQs-zHUJSy9PKUuKrUcaoCFs+rDeCJEA9UGDuBrVw@mail.gmail.com>
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Great, let me know when you find it
Robert

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:39 PM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert,
>
> I have a dumpster coming tomorrow & cleanup begins. Stay tuned.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 8:32 PM Robert@ Pamaya Red <robert at pamayared.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Steven
> > Hope all is well with you.
> > Thought that since most of us are home these days, did you have time to
> > look for the pop top enclosure. I realize might not be putting boats in
> the
> > water until this virus ends or at least lightens up, but would like to
> buy
> > it from you when you find it.
> > Thanks and stay safe
> > Robert
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:27 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give
> me
> > > some time to dig through my debris.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Stephen Staum*
> > > *s/v Carol Lee 2*
> > >
> > > *Needham, MA*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure
> if
> > > year
> > > > means anything but would like to find one by April
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --
> Stephen Staum
> Pariser Industries, Inc.
>

From bferguson at jcu.edu  Tue Mar 31 13:19:18 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:19:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
Message-ID: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of wood
is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped boards that look
similar to particle board, but I am little suspect that particle board could
have lasted that long.  They're not plywood which is what I am leaning
towards as a replacement after sealing it.  

It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the foam
blob underneath.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From rlowe at vt.edu  Tue Mar 31 14:08:59 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:08:59 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
In-Reply-To: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR05MB69389C327179DEA50FAC6AD7C1C80@DM6PR05MB6938.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Brian,
Particle board would not be a good choice.  Sounds like a PO (previous owner) repair. Either a plywood sealed to prevent moisture intrusion or a sealed marine grade plywood would be  better choice. - rob

________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:19 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials

I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of wood
is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped boards that look
similar to particle board, but I am little suspect that particle board could
have lasted that long.  They're not plywood which is what I am leaning
towards as a replacement after sealing it.

It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the foam
blob underneath.



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From stan at generalboats.com  Tue Mar 31 14:18:20 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:18:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR05MB69389C327179DEA50FAC6AD7C1C80@DM6PR05MB6938.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <DM6PR05MB69389C327179DEA50FAC6AD7C1C80@DM6PR05MB6938.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <e0070677-42cc-f0e4-0c55-5c489bb17efd@generalboats.com>

We have to stop living in 1976.? The V berths are fiberglass.


On 3/31/20 2:08 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote:
> Brian,
> Particle board would not be a good choice.  Sounds like a PO (previous owner) repair. Either a plywood sealed to prevent moisture intrusion or a sealed marine grade plywood would be  better choice. - rob
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
>
> I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of wood
> is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped boards that look
> similar to particle board, but I am little suspect that particle board could
> have lasted that long.  They're not plywood which is what I am leaning
> towards as a replacement after sealing it.
>
> It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the foam
> blob underneath.
>
>
>
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>


From bferguson at jcu.edu  Tue Mar 31 14:24:26 2020
From: bferguson at jcu.edu (NewIn76)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:24:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
In-Reply-To: <e0070677-42cc-f0e4-0c55-5c489bb17efd@generalboats.com>
References: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <DM6PR05MB69389C327179DEA50FAC6AD7C1C80@DM6PR05MB6938.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <e0070677-42cc-f0e4-0c55-5c489bb17efd@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <1585679066717-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Thanks Stan.  I'll try that route.  



-----
Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From mark at whipplefamily.com  Tue Mar 31 17:35:26 2020
From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:35:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
In-Reply-To: <1585589229412-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1585498371609-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1585520596491-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+WP5AQYg7DcDBEqHA_qZuBavnM-L-CdwazfW1+uR+nCw_bu1A@mail.gmail.com>

I've kept my 30' Nimble on a mooring in Boston Harbor for many years. The
standard mooring setup around here is 300lb mushroom (or more for bigger
boats), a very heavy bottom chain and a lighter top chain with a swivel
attached to the mooring ball. I use two pennants with spliced steel eyes at
the mooring ball and open eyes to go to the boat. The heavy bottom chain
helps keep the mushroom on its side and doesn't typically move unless
there's a storm. Then you wonder why you're mooring ball is suddenly closer
to your neighbor - especially if that mooring wasn't occupied during the
storm.

Mark Whipple
s/v Tiny Dancer
R22 2000
Boston, MA

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:27 PM Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net> wrote:

> Not a good idea unless your anchor is a mooring (mushroom) anchor well
> buried
> and sited in the anchorage.  Otherwise, you may return to find her (Yes! we
> have no identity problems with our boats!) either on a sea wall or parked
> in
> the lines of a nearby slip. And yes, your insurance company would not be
> happy. Actually, they may not care since they wouldn't cover your damage.
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> -----
> Joe Dempsey
> s/v Respite
> Rhodes 22 1989/2005
> Deltaville,VA
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 18:32:58 2020
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:32:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Social Distancing When Boating
Message-ID: <CACSd1jL5eMwj=C6DyA4Vvam4FoLhHsRi18Guw4WemUfW7OM+VQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Mike Corley
S/V Ranger
Hampton Roads
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Tue Mar 31 20:01:32 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:01:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
In-Reply-To: <e0070677-42cc-f0e4-0c55-5c489bb17efd@generalboats.com>
References: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Gee Stan, my '91 has luan plywood sections secured in the middle with hinges above the water tank.

The underside of the v-berth cushions are also luan plywood, although there is no formal covering over the foam.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:18 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials

We have to stop living in 1976.  The V berths are fiberglass.


On 3/31/20 2:08 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote:
> Brian,
> Particle board would not be a good choice.  Sounds like a PO (previous 
> owner) repair. Either a plywood sealed to prevent moisture intrusion 
> or a sealed marine grade plywood would be  better choice. - rob
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of 
> NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:19 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
>
> I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of 
> wood is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped 
> boards that look similar to particle board, but I am little suspect 
> that particle board could have lasted that long.  They're not plywood 
> which is what I am leaning towards as a replacement after sealing it.
>
> It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the 
> foam blob underneath.
>
>
>
> -----
> Brian
> 1976 Rhodes 22
> Cleveland
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>


From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 31 21:09:20 2020
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 01:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out Haul Car
Message-ID: <SN6PR04MB478132397348F2839A04F98FD9C90@SN6PR04MB4781.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Since I don?t have a CoS, I can?t buy a replacement out haul car from GB (at any price, if I understand all that has been posted). 

The attached photo shows a very old car, mostly stainless steel if I?m not mistaken. While this is obviously very durable, the metal seemed to not slid very well in the boom. A few years ago, I made the car at the bottom out of (I think) nylon. This worked very well until last week. As I was bringing in the sail, the bottom portion split off. 

While I can bring back the old car for use. And I can fabricate another car like the nylon one. I?m wondering what the current design of out haul car is. Can anyone share what design they have on their boat, please?

Sent from my iPhone

Charles Nieman
S/V Daydream 
98 R 22


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Mar 31 21:10:11 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:10:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
In-Reply-To: <008b01d607b8$b4d45700$1e7d0500$@ebsmed.com>
References: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <DM6PR05MB69389C327179DEA50FAC6AD7C1C80@DM6PR05MB6938.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <e0070677-42cc-f0e4-0c55-5c489bb17efd@generalboats.com>
 <008b01d607b8$b4d45700$1e7d0500$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <307F7B23-EB8E-4298-8044-FAF10FEF6DB1@sunnybeeches.com>

On Silverheels there?s a couple of loose pieces of plywood that bridge the water tank area.  The cushions rest on those and the fiberglass covering the foam flotation.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


> On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> Gee Stan, my '91 has luan plywood sections secured in the middle with hinges above the water tank.
> 
> The underside of the v-berth cushions are also luan plywood, although there is no formal covering over the foam.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:18 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
> 
> We have to stop living in 1976.  The V berths are fiberglass.
> 
> 
> On 3/31/20 2:08 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote:
>> Brian,
>> Particle board would not be a good choice.  Sounds like a PO (previous 
>> owner) repair. Either a plywood sealed to prevent moisture intrusion 
>> or a sealed marine grade plywood would be  better choice. - rob
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of 
>> NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:19 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
>> 
>> I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of 
>> wood is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped 
>> boards that look similar to particle board, but I am little suspect 
>> that particle board could have lasted that long.  They're not plywood 
>> which is what I am leaning towards as a replacement after sealing it.
>> 
>> It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the 
>> foam blob underneath.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Brian
>> 1976 Rhodes 22
>> Cleveland
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>> 
> 


From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 31 21:16:15 2020
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 01:16:15 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Out Haul Car
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR04MB478132397348F2839A04F98FD9C90@SN6PR04MB4781.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN6PR04MB478132397348F2839A04F98FD9C90@SN6PR04MB4781.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <SN6PR04MB4781C0DBDC579073F8231F4AD9C90@SN6PR04MB4781.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>


This time with the photo attached!

?Since I don?t have a CoS, I can?t buy a replacement out haul car from GB (at any price, if I understand all that has been posted).

The attached photo shows a very old car, mostly stainless steel if I?m not mistaken. While this is obviously very durable, the metal seemed to not slid very well in the boom. A few years ago, I made the car at the bottom out of (I think) nylon. This worked very well until last week. As I was bringing in the sail, the bottom portion split off.

While I can bring back the old car for use. And I can fabricate another car like the nylon one. I?m wondering what the current design of out haul car is. Can anyone share what design they have on their boat, please?

Sent from my iPhone

Charles Nieman
S/V Daydream
98 R 22


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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 21:23:03 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:23:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Keep well
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At the sailing club at the local lake, we normally use a lot of man power to
get the floating T dock by the ramp installed.  Since that is not an option
this year, we're going to use the same company that normally puts in our
floating slips since they have equipment to accomplish that.  I suspect we
may use them in future years as well if the fee is reasonable.  Unless their
crew gets sidelined and has to quarantine, the docks and slips will be in by
late April.  So far it looks like we'll have access to sail, but we won't be
doing the typical social functions.  It will be a nice to get out on the
boat for some fresh air!  Hope you all are doing well as can be. 



--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From stan at generalboats.com  Tue Mar 31 21:28:16 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:28:16 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
In-Reply-To: <008b01d607b8$b4d45700$1e7d0500$@ebsmed.com>
References: <1585675158192-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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my first car had cloth in the center section of its steel roof. It 
leaked and I painted it and laid oil cloth on the wet paint. Worked til 
I could get a more recent model.? The foam flotation we mold, that forms 
the solid part of the V berth, is molded with an integral top and aft 
fiberglass shell.? The hinged luan (actually Russian birch these days) 
you refer to is not over the foam but rather over the open area where 
the water and holding tanks are located.? I know the boat you purchased 
had some owner associated incident I never saw so can't speak to it's 
particular interior but it was such a good deal and now is 30 years old, 
time for the latest of everything Rhodes.? We have this show boat with 
the latest of everything, you can have for . . .


On 3/31/20 8:01 PM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Gee Stan, my '91 has luan plywood sections secured in the middle with hinges above the water tank.
>
> The underside of the v-berth cushions are also luan plywood, although there is no formal covering over the foam.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:18 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
>
> We have to stop living in 1976.  The V berths are fiberglass.
>
>
> On 3/31/20 2:08 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote:
>> Brian,
>> Particle board would not be a good choice.  Sounds like a PO (previous
>> owner) repair. Either a plywood sealed to prevent moisture intrusion
>> or a sealed marine grade plywood would be  better choice. - rob
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>> NewIn76 via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:19 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
>>
>> I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of
>> wood is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped
>> boards that look similar to particle board, but I am little suspect
>> that particle board could have lasted that long.  They're not plywood
>> which is what I am leaning towards as a replacement after sealing it.
>>
>> It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the
>> foam blob underneath.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Brian
>> 1976 Rhodes 22
>> Cleveland
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>
>


From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 31 21:35:05 2020
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 01:35:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out Haul Car
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR04MB478132397348F2839A04F98FD9C90@SN6PR04MB4781.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN6PR04MB478132397348F2839A04F98FD9C90@SN6PR04MB4781.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1593477325.76767.1585704905169@mail.yahoo.com>

Maybe this is far-fetched, Charles, but there might be some space between the boom track 'slider' and the boomtop 'channel' to allow positioning a slick surface between the two, acting like a lubricant would. Post a picture of your metal outhaul piece and we could cogitate when convenient.??
R,Art

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  On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:09 PM, Charles Nieman<blue66corvette at hotmail.com> wrote:   Since I don?t have a CoS, I can?t buy a replacement out haul car from GB (at any price, if I understand all that has been posted). 

The attached photo shows a very old car, mostly stainless steel if I?m not mistaken. While this is obviously very durable, the metal seemed to not slid very well in the boom. A few years ago, I made the car at the bottom out of (I think) nylon. This worked very well until last week. As I was bringing in the sail, the bottom portion split off. 

While I can bring back the old car for use. And I can fabricate another car like the nylon one. I?m wondering what the current design of out haul car is. Can anyone share what design they have on their boat, please?

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Charles Nieman
S/V Daydream 
98 R 22

  

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Mar 31 22:45:44 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:45:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials
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As someone still living happily in 1976 I can attest to the fact that my V
birth boards are made of regular grade plywood. I think they will last
another 45 years or as long as I live - whichever comes first.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




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To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-Berth Board materials

I scoured the archives, but couldn't find a good answer.  What kind of wood
is used in the v-berth?  I pulled out two triangular shaped boards that look
similar to particle board, but I am little suspect that particle board could
have lasted that long.  They're not plywood which is what I am leaning
towards as a replacement after sealing it.  

It's an easy fix that I'd like to do instead of laying on top of the foam
blob underneath.  



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Brian
1976 Rhodes 22
Cleveland
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 22:49:56 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:49:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Social Distancing When Boating
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Or you could n make sure you win the race.   We keep a long painter on the
dinghy for guests.
Chris & Alice Geankoplis
ENOSIS

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 18:33, Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com> wrote:

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