[Rhodes22-list] Emergency diamondboard help...at boatyard for only a little while longer

[stan]

Oliver,

www.rhodes22parts.com has parts for the Rhodes that are not available 
from marine suppliers.  In the case of your diamond board however I do 
think that it would be less costly if you have your current one repaired 
locally.  Freight alone for a centerboard can be an item.  With all that 
saving how about a new style outhaul car or a fabulous fiberglass tiller 
or the new invention traveler system.

While you got me to my keyboard, a comment.  Every action has an equal 
and opposite reaction. Every recycled and new Rhodes has a yoke that 
prevents the genoa line from leaving its drum so the energy needed to 
pull out the sail is not altered.  From a 94 year old perspective every 
ounce is an item.  For you young bucks the extra force needed to pull 
out the genoa with either Mikes or Rogers ingenious tension techniques 
would hardly be measurable so a small price to pay.  Besides who sails 
at 94.

And Don, if you are listening, I have no recollection of your inquiring 
about a rub rail insert replacement. We have those in stock for Boston 
Whaler owners since their boats came with red and we are the only ones 
who also have that color.  But the reflective tape idea sound interesting?

On 5/24/20 8:34 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
> Hi Stan!  It almost looked like that extra piece was glassed in...if not
> than definitely glued down well. I think I’d damage the hull interface just
> by removing it. I’m thinking about just enlarging the inner opening with a
> keyhole saw to allow me to pull the board. I don’t think the slick surface
> on the laminate gives the gasket the best matings surface either...that
> might explain my slightly wet bilge. Do you sell new diamond boards, or is
> it usually more economical to have them repaired locally?
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:17 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
>> Mary Lou,
>>
>> since this is between me and you I am happy to join in to report what my
>> now occasionally lying eyes are seeing.
>>
>> A prior owner, as is usually the case when someone reports on a
>> ridiculous design fault attributed to GB, sacrificed access to the cb in
>> the cb trunk in favor of a quick improper fix.
>>
>> The only recourse now for removing the cb is to take off the white
>> whatever it is, throw it away. lift out the cb. Fix what has to be
>> fixed.  AND THEN REASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE CB SYSTEM AS GOD AND GB DESIGNED
>> IT TO BE.
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/20 7:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:
>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>
>>> The laminate is not standard R22 construction.
>>>
>>> At one point we were going to do something to the board, I forget
>>> what, maybe replace the pennant or get rid of the pully in the raising
>>> system and had ordered a new gasket from Stan. When we got it apart
>>> and discovered the laminate, we abandoned the project. We asked Stan
>>> about it and via email he basically shrugged his shoulders and said
>>> something to the effect that "that wasn't our repair." It wasn't
>>> leaking, we found another way to do what we were going to do and
>>> forgot about it. In fact I didn't realize I still had the exchange
>>> with Stan in an old email program until now.
>>>
>>> After a bit of back and forth on a photo, Stan's exact words on the
>>> subject from 2003 were:
>>>
>>> "So what I am seeing is a fiberglass "washer" between the top lip of
>>> the trunk and
>>> neoprene gasket.  The question then is was there any leakage between
>>> the fiberglass
>>> gasket and the cb trunk lip?  If no then I would leave it in place and
>>> just use a
>>> jib saw to cut on opening in it to match the opening in the cb trunk -
>>> it should
>>> cut easily since it is probably not very thick  If on the other hand
>>> there was
>>> leakage between this element and the cb trunk cap I would do whatever
>>> is necessary
>>> to pull it off and throw it away and sand smooth the top of the trunk
>>> lip to
>>> receive the neoprene gasket."
>>>
>>> As I noted above, it wasn't leaking so my recollection is we decided
>>> not to mess with it.
>>>
>>> Sorry this isn't more help.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/2020 6:12 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>>>> My last message with two pics bounced back...hopefully this goes
>>>> through...
>>>>
>>>> Whoops...sorry. Forgot to attach it!  Here they are. That white piece is
>>>> glued to the boat...I’m sure of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:02 PM Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The pic didn’t come through?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:58 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well the board fell onto the trailer axle since I guess I pulled
>>>>>> the boat
>>>>>> too far forward. Took a chunk out of it so I decided to try to pull
>>>>>> it. I
>>>>>> just got the cap off after removing ~60 10mm bolts with blind nuts and
>>>>> now
>>>>>> I can’t access the pivot to remove the board. See pics...the white
>>>>>> piece
>>>>> of
>>>>>> laminate? seems to be glasses into the hull. I’m afraid to destroy
>>>>>> it by
>>>>>> prying. Can anyone confirm to me that this piece should be
>>>>>> removable?  I
>>>>>> cants see any other way to lift the board out since the pivot is
>>>>>> inaccessible. I’ll be at the boat for an hour more max, then I have to
>>>>> head
>>>>>> home. Was really hoping to take the board with me!
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>>>>>
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