[Rhodes22-list] Emergency diamondboard help...at boatyard for only a little while longer

Sat May 30 14:19:50 EDT 2020

I was also not shocked to not find the “two scraps of garden hose” I’ve
heard so much about. I think they dampen noise and movement near the pivot
of the board, and my board does “rattle” while sailing whenever it’s not
fully loaded. Does anyone have pictures of how/where those pieces of hose
should go when I reassemble everything?  Thanks again!

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:51 AM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:

> Got the board pulled today and the local yard should be able to repair it
> this week. Here is a picture in case anyone is curious about the layers of
> construction.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:00 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Stan. I already have two of those three upgrades and love them but
>> have been thinking about a new tiller at some point!
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:02 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Oliver,
>>>
>>> www.rhodes22parts.com has parts for the Rhodes that are not available
>>> from marine suppliers.  In the case of your diamond board however I do
>>> think that it would be less costly if you have your current one repaired
>>> locally.  Freight alone for a centerboard can be an item.  With all that
>>> saving how about a new style outhaul car or a fabulous fiberglass tiller
>>> or the new invention traveler system.
>>>
>>> While you got me to my keyboard, a comment.  Every action has an equal
>>> and opposite reaction. Every recycled and new Rhodes has a yoke that
>>> prevents the genoa line from leaving its drum so the energy needed to
>>> pull out the sail is not altered.  From a 94 year old perspective every
>>> ounce is an item.  For you young bucks the extra force needed to pull
>>> out the genoa with either Mikes or Rogers ingenious tension techniques
>>> would hardly be measurable so a small price to pay.  Besides who sails
>>> at 94.
>>>
>>> And Don, if you are listening, I have no recollection of your inquiring
>>> about a rub rail insert replacement. We have those in stock for Boston
>>> Whaler owners since their boats came with red and we are the only ones
>>> who also have that color.  But the reflective tape idea sound
>>> interesting?
>>>
>>> On 5/24/20 8:34 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>>> > Hi Stan!  It almost looked like that extra piece was glassed in...if
>>> not
>>> > than definitely glued down well. I think I’d damage the hull interface
>>> just
>>> > by removing it. I’m thinking about just enlarging the inner opening
>>> with a
>>> > keyhole saw to allow me to pull the board. I don’t think the slick
>>> surface
>>> > on the laminate gives the gasket the best matings surface either...that
>>> > might explain my slightly wet bilge. Do you sell new diamond boards,
>>> or is
>>> > it usually more economical to have them repaired locally?
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:17 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Mary Lou,
>>> >>
>>> >> since this is between me and you I am happy to join in to report what
>>> my
>>> >> now occasionally lying eyes are seeing.
>>> >>
>>> >> A prior owner, as is usually the case when someone reports on a
>>> >> ridiculous design fault attributed to GB, sacrificed access to the cb
>>> in
>>> >> the cb trunk in favor of a quick improper fix.
>>> >>
>>> >> The only recourse now for removing the cb is to take off the white
>>> >> whatever it is, throw it away. lift out the cb. Fix what has to be
>>> >> fixed.  AND THEN REASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE CB SYSTEM AS GOD AND GB
>>> DESIGNED
>>> >> IT TO BE.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/24/20 7:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:
>>> >>> Hi Olivier,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The laminate is not standard R22 construction.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At one point we were going to do something to the board, I forget
>>> >>> what, maybe replace the pennant or get rid of the pully in the
>>> raising
>>> >>> system and had ordered a new gasket from Stan. When we got it apart
>>> >>> and discovered the laminate, we abandoned the project. We asked Stan
>>> >>> about it and via email he basically shrugged his shoulders and said
>>> >>> something to the effect that "that wasn't our repair." It wasn't
>>> >>> leaking, we found another way to do what we were going to do and
>>> >>> forgot about it. In fact I didn't realize I still had the exchange
>>> >>> with Stan in an old email program until now.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> After a bit of back and forth on a photo, Stan's exact words on the
>>> >>> subject from 2003 were:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "So what I am seeing is a fiberglass "washer" between the top lip of
>>> >>> the trunk and
>>> >>> neoprene gasket.  The question then is was there any leakage between
>>> >>> the fiberglass
>>> >>> gasket and the cb trunk lip?  If no then I would leave it in place
>>> and
>>> >>> just use a
>>> >>> jib saw to cut on opening in it to match the opening in the cb trunk
>>> -
>>> >>> it should
>>> >>> cut easily since it is probably not very thick  If on the other hand
>>> >>> there was
>>> >>> leakage between this element and the cb trunk cap I would do whatever
>>> >>> is necessary
>>> >>> to pull it off and throw it away and sand smooth the top of the trunk
>>> >>> lip to
>>> >>> receive the neoprene gasket."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As I noted above, it wasn't leaking so my recollection is we decided
>>> >>> not to mess with it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sorry this isn't more help.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mary Lou
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 5/24/2020 6:12 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>>> >>>> My last message with two pics bounced back...hopefully this goes
>>> >>>> through...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Whoops...sorry. Forgot to attach it!  Here they are. That white
>>> piece is
>>> >>>> glued to the boat...I’m sure of it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:02 PM Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> The pic didn’t come through?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:58 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Well the board fell onto the trailer axle since I guess I pulled
>>> >>>>>> the boat
>>> >>>>>> too far forward. Took a chunk out of it so I decided to try to
>>> pull
>>> >>>>>> it. I
>>> >>>>>> just got the cap off after removing ~60 10mm bolts with blind
>>> nuts and
>>> >>>>> now
>>> >>>>>> I can’t access the pivot to remove the board. See pics...the white
>>> >>>>>> piece
>>> >>>>> of
>>> >>>>>> laminate? seems to be glasses into the hull. I’m afraid to destroy
>>> >>>>>> it by
>>> >>>>>> prying. Can anyone confirm to me that this piece should be
>>> >>>>>> removable?  I
>>> >>>>>> cants see any other way to lift the board out since the pivot is
>>> >>>>>> inaccessible. I’ll be at the boat for an hour more max, then I
>>> have to
>>> >>>>> head
>>> >>>>>> home. Was really hoping to take the board with me!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> --
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Richard Beytagh
>>> >>>>> Phone: 828 337 0180
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