From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com  Sun Aug  1 14:49:45 2021
From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:49:45 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Low water on the Tittabawassee River
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6920178D78E0DE64792F148280EE9@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,

The attached photo is the Tittabawassee River (formerly Sanford Lake) looking east from the deck on my house.  Those are Canada Geese standing on the bottom out in the middle where the water depth was formerly about 9 feet ? so maybe 3-4 inches now!

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Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

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From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sun Aug  1 15:44:22 2021
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 14:44:22 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Low water on the Tittabawassee River
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Message-ID: <CAEqJHY7apOFoEGmXxcovVgnuJyj7vt54O3=NwiOLwzhRiy=R+Q@mail.gmail.com>

No damn... I mean no dam!

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, 1:49 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The attached photo is the Tittabawassee River (formerly Sanford Lake)
> looking east from the deck on my house.  Those are Canada Geese standing on
> the bottom out in the middle where the water depth was formerly about 9
> feet ? so maybe 3-4 inches now!
>
> [cid:image003.jpg at 01D786E4.778A0B40]
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
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From bmg18 at me.com  Sun Aug  1 16:31:56 2021
From: bmg18 at me.com (Bruce Greenwald)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:31:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
Message-ID: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>

My poptop slider  plunge lock failed last year and after some searching I found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.  Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed almost immediately.  I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing holes but that may not be possible.  In any event, can someone recommend a source for a replacement?  Thanks 

Bruce Greenwald
S/V Ruach  Shelter Island NY

From forg3d at gmail.com  Sun Aug  1 20:17:40 2021
From: forg3d at gmail.com (Jeffrey Camiel)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 19:17:40 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
In-Reply-To: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
References: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
Message-ID: <27EAB591-9B43-4F92-A6BC-8050A9D38CEF@gmail.com>

I ordered one through GB.  They sent me a brass one.  I am a still lookin for a chrome (?)one. Let me know if you find one. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Bruce Greenwald via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?My poptop slider  plunge lock failed last year and after some searching I found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.  Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed almost immediately.  I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing holes but that may not be possible.  In any event, can someone recommend a source for a replacement?  Thanks 
> 
> Bruce Greenwald
> S/V Ruach  Shelter Island NY

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 00:12:32 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 07:12:32 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
In-Reply-To: <27EAB591-9B43-4F92-A6BC-8050A9D38CEF@gmail.com>
References: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
 <27EAB591-9B43-4F92-A6BC-8050A9D38CEF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUpSqxsJoOXtrQDdv3dtgGu8cJjGymajbAVdR3aeNuw3g@mail.gmail.com>

Try Grainger industrial supply. They were an exact match in chrome plated
brass. Might even have SS.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 3:17 AM Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com> wrote:

> I ordered one through GB.  They sent me a brass one.  I am a still lookin
> for a chrome (?)one. Let me know if you find one.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 1, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Bruce Greenwald via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?My poptop slider  plunge lock failed last year and after some searching
> I found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.
> Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed
> almost immediately.  I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing
> holes but that may not be possible.  In any event, can someone recommend a
> source for a replacement?  Thanks
> >
> > Bruce Greenwald
> > S/V Ruach  Shelter Island NY
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 07:36:29 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 07:36:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] "New" outhaul car
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmnz9uzV66j6RvOVKu6bPE+w2+Q64xZ0cw7YJf_wnAM3Kw@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a photo of the newest out haul car from GB? I am getting a
new mainsail from Doyle Sails and would like to have the latest and
greatest. I'm not sure which generation mine is.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Aug  2 13:13:52 2021
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:13:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] "New" outhaul car
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmnz9uzV66j6RvOVKu6bPE+w2+Q64xZ0cw7YJf_wnAM3Kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmnz9uzV66j6RvOVKu6bPE+w2+Q64xZ0cw7YJf_wnAM3Kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003201d787c1$c565a5d0$5030f170$@ebsmed.com>

Jeff,

I believe that the attached image is of the newest outhaul car, available from Stan.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Jeff Smith Photo
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:36 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] "New" outhaul car

Does anyone have a photo of the newest out haul car from GB? I am getting a new mainsail from Doyle Sails and would like to have the latest and greatest. I'm not sure which generation mine is.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368
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From retro53 at msn.com  Mon Aug  2 20:08:50 2021
From: retro53 at msn.com (John Keyser)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 00:08:50 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
In-Reply-To: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
References: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR03MB5245973AB00E4B538DD59668BDF09@MN2PR03MB5245.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Same thing happened to mine a few years ago. I gathered up the pieces and took them to my local locksmith. He went in the back and came out with one that works (sorry - don't have the name of the product). Have been using it with no issues ever since.

John Keyser
Deci-Belle
Phila. Pa

________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Bruce Greenwald via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:31 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock

My poptop slider  plunge lock failed last year and after some searching I found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.  Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed almost immediately.  I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing holes but that may not be possible.  In any event, can someone recommend a source for a replacement?  Thanks

Bruce Greenwald
S/V Ruach  Shelter Island NY

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 07:10:49 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 07:10:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] "New" Outhaul Car
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmkCunmiFFkCPD7G_S0VAeMZ=qe2yuyw9=sOBHeu4UsPWw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. Mike,
Mine is similar, but not identical. It looks close enough. I am going to
replace the carabeener shackle with a soft shackle to reduce rattle.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 07:28:21 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 07:28:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail installation instructions?
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmksaVBRFLa-KX38rbHcc+VWeQ_eBRAGgO4+K93uKF-z5w@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a detailed step by step instruction on how to remove an old ripped
main from the mast and install a new one? I am especially interested in how
many wraps to initially put on the drum.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From jose.faraldo at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 08:12:41 2021
From: jose.faraldo at gmail.com (Jose Faraldo-Gomez)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 08:12:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail installation instructions?
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmksaVBRFLa-KX38rbHcc+VWeQ_eBRAGgO4+K93uKF-z5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmksaVBRFLa-KX38rbHcc+VWeQ_eBRAGgO4+K93uKF-z5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78227801-527E-4ED7-840A-6A1024A523D4@gmail.com>

I believe ours had 15 wraps.

Jose

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 7:28 AM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Is there a detailed step by step instruction on how to remove an old ripped
> main from the mast and install a new one? I am especially interested in how
> many wraps to initially put on the drum.
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Tue Aug  3 09:18:12 2021
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 13:18:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR03MB5245973AB00E4B538DD59668BDF09@MN2PR03MB5245.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
 <MN2PR03MB5245973AB00E4B538DD59668BDF09@MN2PR03MB5245.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <727709198.1486302.1627996692108@mail.yahoo.com>

Stan has some locks at the plant try him first. If not get Solid brass pin tumbler like the original keep lubed.?
Mark KeyWest lock and Safe.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Keyser <retro53 at msn.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; Bruce Greenwald <bmg18 at me.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 2, 2021 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock

Same thing happened to mine a few years ago. I gathered up the pieces and took them to my local locksmith. He went in the back and came out with one that works (sorry - don't have the name of the product). Have been using it with no issues ever since.

John Keyser
Deci-Belle
Phila. Pa

________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Bruce Greenwald via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:31 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock

My poptop slider? plunge lock failed last year and after some searching I found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.? Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed almost immediately.? I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing holes but that may not be possible.? In any event, can someone recommend a source for a replacement?? Thanks

Bruce Greenwald
S/V Ruach? Shelter Island NY

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 11:48:36 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 18:48:36 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med.
Message-ID: <CADNTwiW17aqX+p+ZOuvxD5UhRV6OK11LvF=-hObKb3LsDHMP+A@mail.gmail.com>

Just a quick note from my wife Alice. ? we had a great sail down from
Killini in NW Peloponnesus 30 nm south to Katakolon. It started out with
light and variable so we motored for an hour or so, then the predicted 10
kt SE wind came from NNW building from 8 to 12 when Chris took a nap. Over
the next hour wing and wing surfing down the waves in 20 knts wind often
breaking 7+ knots was a joy. Not bad for a almost 40 year old Rhodes. The
jibe did finally wake Chris up. Yes we are having a great time?.   Chris:
 Yup. We are having fun! Pictures and journal to follow soon.
Chris & Alice Geankoplis
Enosis

From rodellner at mac.com  Tue Aug  3 14:09:53 2021
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 12:09:53 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med.
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiW17aqX+p+ZOuvxD5UhRV6OK11LvF=-hObKb3LsDHMP+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiW17aqX+p+ZOuvxD5UhRV6OK11LvF=-hObKb3LsDHMP+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29B8D5BB-38CB-4CAA-BD97-A572C6AFD569@mac.com>

Alice and Chris 

Thanks for taking us vicariously on your journey 

Rod and Mary Ellner

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Just a quick note from my wife Alice. ? we had a great sail down from
> Killini in NW Peloponnesus 30 nm south to Katakolon. It started out with
> light and variable so we motored for an hour or so, then the predicted 10
> kt SE wind came from NNW building from 8 to 12 when Chris took a nap. Over
> the next hour wing and wing surfing down the waves in 20 knts wind often
> breaking 7+ knots was a joy. Not bad for a almost 40 year old Rhodes. The
> jibe did finally wake Chris up. Yes we are having a great time?.   Chris:
> Yup. We are having fun! Pictures and journal to follow soon.
> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> Enosis

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Aug  3 16:52:43 2021
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail installation instructions?
Message-ID: <E1mB1P1-00GzB8-Fp@s152.servername.online>

Jeff,

My YouTube video about "Replacing the Main Sail Furling Line" (https://youtu.be/MH7hYJnoNpM) will only be partially relevant to your situation.  It does deal with the partial disassembly of the IMF, but doesn't discuss the sail itself at all.  When I replaced the furling line, the sail was fully furled, so the number of wraps at that point was zero.  I doubt that adding an extra wrap or two would hurt anything, but I don't recall if I did that before putting everything back together.

There's a topic of "IMF Mainsail - Replacing" in the 'Reference Pages' area under the 'Sails' subject heading. There's a write up from Rummy from 2003, and one from Mike Weisner from last year.  Both suggest counting furling line wraps at the start of the process.   

--Peter

> On 2021-08-03, at 07:28:21 EDT, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
>
> Is there a detailed step by step instruction on how to remove an old ripped main 
> from the mast and install a new one? I am especially interested in how many 
> wraps to initially put on the drum. 
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.<a href="http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net">http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net</a>
> 732-236-1368
> 


From kensimolo at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 17:04:04 2021
From: kensimolo at gmail.com (Ken Simolo)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 14:04:04 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
Message-ID: <CAK_z4Dq2MpCSPE5vfnJX3FboUNBU1y+Hsu4-Zj4b=WuGJx0=6w@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PSQ3K95/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

worked on mine fine.

And this one worked on my lazarette:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ICBRLO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ken

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 03:00:08 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 10:00:08 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med.
In-Reply-To: <29B8D5BB-38CB-4CAA-BD97-A572C6AFD569@mac.com>
References: <CADNTwiW17aqX+p+ZOuvxD5UhRV6OK11LvF=-hObKb3LsDHMP+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <29B8D5BB-38CB-4CAA-BD97-A572C6AFD569@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWoFjjjP+p0-ebvQTL857nDMR-tXntn28X5seF2X-LwRA@mail.gmail.com>

Glad we can share. I write this sitting in a little Port of Katakolon as
Alice drinks her coffee and we eat

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 21:09, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Alice and Chris
>
> Thanks for taking us vicariously on your journey
>
> Rod and Mary Ellner
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 3, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Just a quick note from my wife Alice. ? we had a great sail down from
> > Killini in NW Peloponnesus 30 nm south to Katakolon. It started out with
> > light and variable so we motored for an hour or so, then the predicted 10
> > kt SE wind came from NNW building from 8 to 12 when Chris took a nap.
> Over
> > the next hour wing and wing surfing down the waves in 20 knts wind often
> > breaking 7+ knots was a joy. Not bad for a almost 40 year old Rhodes. The
> > jibe did finally wake Chris up. Yes we are having a great time?.   Chris:
> > Yup. We are having fun! Pictures and journal to follow soon.
> > Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> > Enosis
>
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From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 07:49:41 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 07:49:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail Installation Instructions
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmnQ6iWG=gETUFZacRHS2Wv05PQ_k1YJCtswgHP9qVZw1w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Peter Nyberg for your once again excellent video.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From dwbrad at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 23:17:37 2021
From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 23:17:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
In-Reply-To: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
References: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
Message-ID: <4A0207A0-0F6F-413A-8EA7-CA5A762E3064@gmail.com>

Hi Bruce. I got mine from Global Industrial and it?s worked fine. That was in 2017.

Dave

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Bruce Greenwald via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> My poptop slider  plunge lock failed last year and after some searching I found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.  Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed almost immediately.  I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing holes but that may not be possible.  In any event, can someone recommend a source for a replacement?  Thanks 
> 
> Bruce Greenwald
> S/V Ruach  Shelter Island NY


From gramille at tds.net  Thu Aug  5 09:48:37 2021
From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:48:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
Message-ID: <415AAD67-6D1B-4B04-888D-CFE8E805C555@tds.net>

I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
Graham
sv 00Sailin

From rweiss at siu.edu  Thu Aug  5 09:51:00 2021
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 13:51:00 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <415AAD67-6D1B-4B04-888D-CFE8E805C555@tds.net>
References: <415AAD67-6D1B-4B04-888D-CFE8E805C555@tds.net>
Message-ID: <DS7PR07MB83845FD7636594C0BD797BB3C6F29@DS7PR07MB8384.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

I just attached my line for the tiller clutch to the two cleats on the back of the boat. Works fine.

Bob
Beach Spring

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:48 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
Graham
sv 00Sailin

From gramille at tds.net  Thu Aug  5 10:00:52 2021
From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 10:00:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR07MB83845FD7636594C0BD797BB3C6F29@DS7PR07MB8384.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <415AAD67-6D1B-4B04-888D-CFE8E805C555@tds.net>
 <DS7PR07MB83845FD7636594C0BD797BB3C6F29@DS7PR07MB8384.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <DFFBE4DC-39F2-46DF-AAB4-199D61E93AF2@tds.net>

Yes , but did you screw it into the tiller and, if so, is your tiller the newer fiberglass model?
Graham

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 09:51, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I just attached my line for the tiller clutch to the two cleats on the back of the boat. Works fine.
> 
> Bob
> Beach Spring
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:48 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
> 
> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
> Graham
> sv 00Sailin


From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 13:25:59 2021
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 13:25:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <415AAD67-6D1B-4B04-888D-CFE8E805C555@tds.net>
References: <415AAD67-6D1B-4B04-888D-CFE8E805C555@tds.net>
Message-ID: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>

I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed earlier
on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
squeezing the handle.

A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's what
I have.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
> Graham
> sv 00Sailin

From gramille at tds.net  Thu Aug  5 16:25:58 2021
From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:25:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A211D998-61F1-4E99-800A-78198AD7A51D@tds.net>

Yes Rick, I had one of those on my previous Cat boat and it worked well.
I am just worried about the fiberglass tiller cracking when I drill and put the screws in?
Graham

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed earlier
> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
> squeezing the handle.
> 
> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's what
> I have.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
>> Graham
>> sv 00Sailin


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 16:27:48 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F080A58D-454C-4D92-B53B-F5A7ECAE2632@gmail.com>

Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine  https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller Tamer?.  

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed earlier
> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
> squeezing the handle.
> 
> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's what
> I have.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
>> Graham
>> sv 00Sailin

From lewin at mail.com  Thu Aug  5 16:32:04 2021
From: lewin at mail.com (Lewin)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:32:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <A211D998-61F1-4E99-800A-78198AD7A51D@tds.net>
References: <A211D998-61F1-4E99-800A-78198AD7A51D@tds.net>
Message-ID: <AA50909A-FBC4-4932-9AA3-20FD31E52A3B@mail.com>

With the proper size hole for the screws you use pre-drilled it is safe to use screws in fiberglass. 

------------------
Bernard Lewin


On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

?Yes Rick, I had one of those on my previous Cat boat and it worked well.
I am just worried about the fiberglass tiller cracking when I drill and put the screws in?
Graham

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed earlier
> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
> squeezing the handle.
> 
> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's what
> I have.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done this?
>> Graham
>> sv 00Sailin



From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 16:32:10 2021
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:32:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <A211D998-61F1-4E99-800A-78198AD7A51D@tds.net>
References: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>
 <A211D998-61F1-4E99-800A-78198AD7A51D@tds.net>
Message-ID: <CABkv36b4FKY=voyLTN3PM7Dyv9A_sYTdDXMwKChMvVj1gyh4HQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Graham,

I have the fiberglass tiller and cracking the gelcoat is a risk,  Start
with a very small drill and work your way up.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:26 PM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> Yes Rick, I had one of those on my previous Cat boat and it worked well.
> I am just worried about the fiberglass tiller cracking when I drill and
> put the screws in?
> Graham
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
> earlier
> > on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
> > squeezing the handle.
> >
> > A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
> > adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
> what
> > I have.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rick Lange
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
> >> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
> this?
> >> Graham
> >> sv 00Sailin
>
>

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 16:35:58 2021
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:35:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <F080A58D-454C-4D92-B53B-F5A7ECAE2632@gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36Y8L-FuGcVtUogX1PMcxXAyUHzS042eBaBmq5smB4JcCA@mail.gmail.com>
 <F080A58D-454C-4D92-B53B-F5A7ECAE2632@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36b+h4O=dRn+18t5dcXM5Wy0abEfiP5xKKfWyq-WuQRsdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
handle to move the tiller.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
> Tamer?.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
> earlier
> > on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
> > squeezing the handle.
> >
> > A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
> > adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
> what
> > I have.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rick Lange
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
> >> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
> this?
> >> Graham
> >> sv 00Sailin
>

From gramille at tds.net  Thu Aug  5 16:47:58 2021
From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:47:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36b+h4O=dRn+18t5dcXM5Wy0abEfiP5xKKfWyq-WuQRsdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36b+h4O=dRn+18t5dcXM5Wy0abEfiP5xKKfWyq-WuQRsdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>

Mike , can it be turned off?
Graham

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
> handle to move the tiller.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
>> Tamer?.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
>> earlier
>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
>>> squeezing the handle.
>>> 
>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
>> what
>>> I have.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Lange
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
>> this?
>>>> Graham
>>>> sv 00Sailin
>> 


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 16:59:22 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:59:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>
References: <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>
Message-ID: <C72CFBD4-90AA-40F7-9FA5-1F0BC033174A@gmail.com>

Yes?it?s click on and click off.  Very precise and easy.  

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:48 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Mike , can it be turned off?
> Graham
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Mike,
>> 
>> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
>> handle to move the tiller.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
>>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
>>> Tamer?.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
>>> earlier
>>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
>>>> squeezing the handle.
>>>> 
>>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
>>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
>>> what
>>>> I have.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Rick Lange
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
>>> this?
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> sv 00Sailin
>>> 
> 

From jayf401 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 16:59:58 2021
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:59:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>
References: <CABkv36b+h4O=dRn+18t5dcXM5Wy0abEfiP5xKKfWyq-WuQRsdA@mail.gmail.com>
 <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>
Message-ID: <5515B1BF-0166-47BC-ADF2-AA71487366C2@gmail.com>

I?m with Rick on the Tiller-Tamer as the friction is adjustable so you can move it, then take care of anything quickly hands-free. Or you can set it for locked-in control. I looked at Wavefront?s comparison sheet, but don?t see anything I?d be giving up. The go/no-go is a disadvantage for my sailing, especially coming out of a marina, or any 3rd hand needs in traffic. Even as a plastic construction, I?ve used it for 20 plus years, and only needed to replace the 1/4? every few years.

Jay Friedland

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> Mike , can it be turned off?
> Graham
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Mike,
>> 
>> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
>> handle to move the tiller.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
>>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
>>> Tamer?.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
>>> earlier
>>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
>>>> squeezing the handle.
>>>> 
>>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
>>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
>>> what
>>>> I have.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Rick Lange
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
>>> this?
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> sv 00Sailin
>>> 
> 


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 17:01:43 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:01:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36b+h4O=dRn+18t5dcXM5Wy0abEfiP5xKKfWyq-WuQRsdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABkv36b+h4O=dRn+18t5dcXM5Wy0abEfiP5xKKfWyq-WuQRsdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3F844B2-671E-43AF-90EC-78C6CBEB859D@gmail.com>

Actually, if you are actively steering you just leave it off.  It has no friction.  When you want to lock the tiller, just a flick of the finger does that instantly. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
> handle to move the tiller.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
>> Tamer?.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
>> earlier
>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
>>> squeezing the handle.
>>> 
>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
>> what
>>> I have.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Lange
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
>> this?
>>>> Graham
>>>> sv 00Sailin
>> 

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 17:13:24 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:13:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <5515B1BF-0166-47BC-ADF2-AA71487366C2@gmail.com>
References: <5515B1BF-0166-47BC-ADF2-AA71487366C2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16658A0C-1B3B-4140-A90F-4C6086A85848@gmail.com>

All I can say is that several members of my sailing club switched from the tiller tamer to the tiller clutch after observing mine. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I?m with Rick on the Tiller-Tamer as the friction is adjustable so you can move it, then take care of anything quickly hands-free. Or you can set it for locked-in control. I looked at Wavefront?s comparison sheet, but don?t see anything I?d be giving up. The go/no-go is a disadvantage for my sailing, especially coming out of a marina, or any 3rd hand needs in traffic. Even as a plastic construction, I?ve used it for 20 plus years, and only needed to replace the 1/4? every few years.
> 
> Jay Friedland
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike , can it be turned off?
>> Graham
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
>>> handle to move the tiller.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Lange
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
>>>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
>>>> Tamer?.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael McKay
>>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
>>>> earlier
>>>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
>>>>> squeezing the handle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
>>>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
>>>> what
>>>>> I have.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick Lange
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>>>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
>>>> this?
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>> sv 00Sailin
>>>> 
>> 
> 

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 17:28:44 2021
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:28:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <16658A0C-1B3B-4140-A90F-4C6086A85848@gmail.com>
References: <5515B1BF-0166-47BC-ADF2-AA71487366C2@gmail.com>
 <16658A0C-1B3B-4140-A90F-4C6086A85848@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRqENqG7aiYrm2gt8WJQ6Ox=yVgiDGBibheA2gE4jjeTBw@mail.gmail.com>

Gee guys, that's why they make more than one brand of cars, stoves,
microwaves, etc.
Cary
S/V Whisper '86


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 5:13 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> All I can say is that several members of my sailing club switched from the
> tiller tamer to the tiller clutch after observing mine.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 5, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?I?m with Rick on the Tiller-Tamer as the friction is adjustable so you
> can move it, then take care of anything quickly hands-free. Or you can set
> it for locked-in control. I looked at Wavefront?s comparison sheet, but
> don?t see anything I?d be giving up. The go/no-go is a disadvantage for my
> sailing, especially coming out of a marina, or any 3rd hand needs in
> traffic. Even as a plastic construction, I?ve used it for 20 plus years,
> and only needed to replace the 1/4? every few years.
> >
> > Jay Friedland
> >
> >> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike , can it be turned off?
> >> Graham
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
> >>> handle to move the tiller.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Rick Lange
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
> >>>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
> >>>> Tamer?.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael McKay
> >>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
> >>>> earlier
> >>>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
> >>>>> squeezing the handle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is
> used to
> >>>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.
> That's
> >>>> what
> >>>>> I have.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rick Lange
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure
> about
> >>>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else
> done
> >>>> this?
> >>>>>> Graham
> >>>>>> sv 00Sailin
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>

From chrissailorman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 20:37:50 2021
From: chrissailorman at gmail.com (Christopher Greco)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 20:37:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>
References: <99959E73-AB33-40CD-848F-219AE8BB23AD@tds.net>
Message-ID: <74034507-B06F-41AC-AF22-87912C6D5EA0@gmail.com>

Tiller clutch is an excellant product.. easy to lock and hold and to release. You will love it! I use one on y O Day Mariner.. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:48 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Mike , can it be turned off?
> Graham
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Mike,
>> 
>> Yes, this is the one I don't like.  You have to always grab the release
>> handle to move the tiller.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 4:27 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Having used both, I find the ?Tiller Clutch? from Wavefront Marine
>>> https://www.wavefrontmarine.com/ is vastly superior to the ?Tiller
>>> Tamer?.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?I've been on a boat with what seems to be the same item portrayed
>>> earlier
>>>> on this thread.  It is not actually a clutch but a brake released by
>>>> squeezing the handle.
>>>> 
>>>> A real clutch is called a Tiller Tamer.  A knob on the bottom is used to
>>>> adjust tension on the holding line making it much more useful.  That's
>>> what
>>>> I have.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Rick Lange
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am tempted to put the tiller clutch on my boat but I am not sure about
>>>>> the wisdom of screwing into my fiberglass tiller. Has anyone else done
>>> this?
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> sv 00Sailin
>>> 
> 

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 15:56:58 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 15:56:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmn+ZXOuEnbwmwDAtvrtQdPoUwuquOniy6zrOMAvfTy1hA@mail.gmail.com>

Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance without
locking it totally down.
It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch or
the brake.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 20:28:50 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:28:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmn+ZXOuEnbwmwDAtvrtQdPoUwuquOniy6zrOMAvfTy1hA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmn+ZXOuEnbwmwDAtvrtQdPoUwuquOniy6zrOMAvfTy1hA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D51BEEFD-1929-45AE-8081-3D89E3705258@gmail.com>

Jeff, 

The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.  

Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:

It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!

Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a finger. 

Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about. 

Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack. 

Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver. 

Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance without
> locking it totally down.
> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch or
> the brake.
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368

From gramille at tds.net  Fri Aug  6 20:49:45 2021
From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:49:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <D51BEEFD-1929-45AE-8081-3D89E3705258@gmail.com>
References: <D51BEEFD-1929-45AE-8081-3D89E3705258@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAAFE341-D79E-45E1-8148-576ADEE05DA0@tds.net>

Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward! Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
Graham 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Jeff, 
> 
> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.  
> 
> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
> 
> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> 
> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a finger. 
> 
> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about. 
> 
> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack. 
> 
> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver. 
> 
> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it. 
> 
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance without
>> locking it totally down.
>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch or
>> the brake.
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> Jeff Smith
>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
>> 732-236-1368


From rweiss at siu.edu  Fri Aug  6 21:00:42 2021
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 01:00:42 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <BAAFE341-D79E-45E1-8148-576ADEE05DA0@tds.net>
References: <D51BEEFD-1929-45AE-8081-3D89E3705258@gmail.com>,
 <BAAFE341-D79E-45E1-8148-576ADEE05DA0@tds.net>
Message-ID: <CH0PR07MB837890F3EB2CB422413CF33DC6F49@CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and over the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions, but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.

Bob
Beach Spring

Robert L. Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
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Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward! Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
Graham


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?Jeff,
>
> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.
>
> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
>
> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
>
> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a finger.
>
> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
>
> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
>
> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
>
> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance without
>> locking it totally down.
>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch or
>> the brake.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Jeff Smith
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> 732-236-1368


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 21:27:13 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 21:27:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <BAAFE341-D79E-45E1-8148-576ADEE05DA0@tds.net>
References: <BAAFE341-D79E-45E1-8148-576ADEE05DA0@tds.net>
Message-ID: <A7A6D54E-1743-4152-9623-DAAA8C9E7FF0@gmail.com>

I ran my tiller clutch lines to the corners of the rear pulpit. Not ideal but it works and no holes required. It does not interfere with the captains chairs or the routine use of the tiller extension. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward! Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> Graham 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Jeff, 
>> 
>> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.  
>> 
>> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
>> 
>> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
>> 
>> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a finger. 
>> 
>> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about. 
>> 
>> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack. 
>> 
>> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver. 
>> 
>> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it. 
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
>>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
>>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance without
>>> locking it totally down.
>>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
>>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch or
>>> the brake.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> Jeff Smith
>>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
>>> 732-236-1368
> 

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 23:20:06 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CH0PR07MB837890F3EB2CB422413CF33DC6F49@CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CH0PR07MB837890F3EB2CB422413CF33DC6F49@CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B@gmail.com>

I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On my prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and over the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions, but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> 
> Bob
> Beach Spring
> 
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
> 
> Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward! Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> Graham
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Jeff,
>> 
>> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.
>> 
>> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
>> 
>> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
>> 
>> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a finger.
>> 
>> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
>> 
>> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
>> 
>> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
>> 
>> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
>>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
>>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance without
>>> locking it totally down.
>>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
>>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch or
>>> the brake.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> Jeff Smith
>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>> 732-236-1368
> 

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sat Aug  7 18:17:23 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>

Well!
Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Sat Aug  7 19:49:08 2021
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuPti_vwyoEF975KojueNB2QNXgqdv1w3_-mgA0FnyZCBg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi:

Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir system
is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!

Sigh,
Shawn
s/ v Sweet Baboo

From rweiss at siu.edu  Sat Aug  7 20:02:31 2021
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
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Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky Lake.

Bob
Beach Spring

Robert L. Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season

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Hi:

Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir system
is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!

Sigh,
Shawn
s/ v Sweet Baboo

From tvpolise at aol.com  Sat Aug  7 20:41:45 2021
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F@aol.com>

I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch. 

> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Well!
> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368


From rweiss at siu.edu  Sat Aug  7 21:07:48 2021
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F@aol.com>
References: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>,
 <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CH0PR07MB8378013E3BB0CA928786B06CC6F59@CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and very quick adjustments.

Bob
Beach Spring

Robert L. Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.

> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?Well!
> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> 732-236-1368


From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Aug  7 21:14:59 2021
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CH0PR07MB8378013E3BB0CA928786B06CC6F59@CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e@generalboats.com>

On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and very quick adjustments.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
>
>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Well!
>> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
>> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Jeff Smith
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> 732-236-1368


From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  8 12:10:52 2021
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4@gmail.com>

I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace the tamer.

Jay Friedland

> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well!
> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368


From rlowe at vt.edu  Mon Aug  9 16:37:57 2021
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
Message-ID: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob


From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 18:41:14 2021
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*

*As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know it.*

*Lee*
*1999 Rhodes22*
*Claytor Lake, VA*

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
>
>

From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 22:59:03 2021
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw@mail.gmail.com>

Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.

Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
> on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
> Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
>
> *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
> world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
> ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
> hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> it.*
>
> *Lee*
> *1999 Rhodes22*
> *Claytor Lake, VA*
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
>

From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 23:57:02 2021
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPgvAE=FQC0j_Y0=TLRf8m=r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 06:48:05 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAE=FQC0j_Y0=TLRf8m=r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=OBg@mail.gmail.com>

Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From rlowe at vt.edu  Tue Aug 10 08:04:27 2021
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <DM6PR05MB6985B81FC39C76B44A65EC3DC1F79@DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Lee,
That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob

________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail

Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*

*As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know it.*

*Lee*
*1999 Rhodes22*
*Claytor Lake, VA*

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
>
>

From joedempsey at hughes.net  Tue Aug 10 17:16:48 2021
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>

Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.


From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Wed Aug 11 12:11:05 2021
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=OBg@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing to
> stay out of harm's way.


Looking forward to your next posts!

Thanks to everyone for their well wishes

>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 00:26:00 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAEm_GXe3O+8PhAtLJAKq9FZhbwNeYPXyLJrQur-zaFPwgQ@mail.gmail.com>
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We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing to
> > stay out of harm's way.
>
>
> Looking forward to your next posts!
>
> Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
>
> >
>

From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sat Aug 14 20:28:06 2021
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
Message-ID: <CAEqJHY5nLWt_wFEbsh0bL+YP237d_=UmkBGZTiah3J1h3ve4jg@mail.gmail.com>

My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 20:31:32 2021
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
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Great picture. Thanks for sharing
Bob Garrant

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:

> My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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From bobfcohen at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 20:45:54 2021
From: bobfcohen at gmail.com (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
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Where on Lake Michigan are you located?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom Van Heule
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway

My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sat Aug 14 21:17:07 2021
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
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Milwaukee.
His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
for 36 years this season.

This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up to
4ft.




On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom
> Van Heule
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
>
> My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 08:47:34 2021
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
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Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the docks
on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing and
he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee again
over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it happens
to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.

Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:

> Milwaukee.
> His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> for 36 years this season.
>
> This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up to
> 4ft.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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From lgioia at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 17 20:27:32 2021
From: lgioia at yahoo.com (Larry Gioia)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?q?There=E2=80=99s_probably_a_better_way?=
	=?utf-8?b?Li4u?=
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... but this is what came to mind. 
My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine before and since. 
  
I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking. So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire away with better ideas. 
  
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?
  
2014 R22 Language of Love 
  
Lake George, NY

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Wed Aug 18 06:57:27 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
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	=?windows-1252?q?=2E=2E=2E?=
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Larry,

2 questions:


  1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
  2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head, lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the trolling motor?s prop.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...

... but this is what came to mind.
My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine before and since.

I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking. So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire away with better ideas.

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?

2014 R22 Language of Love

Lake George, NY


From edmc18 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 12:03:00 2021
From: edmc18 at gmail.com (Ed McNamara)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:03:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
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References: <CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA@mail.gmail.com>
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It's not even close! After replacing my tamer with the clutch and trying it
out I think I could have paid 4 times what it cost and would still be
happy. Mount it under the tiller and a simple flick of a finger locks and
unlocks in an instant.

On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 9:07 PM Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> very quick adjustments.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > 732-236-1368
>
>

From edmc18 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 12:08:26 2021
From: edmc18 at gmail.com (Ed McNamara)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:08:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
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Michael, that's exactly how I use it too. It's a breeze (and, No, I don't
receive compensation for my comments. I just love it!) once you get the
hang of it. My 1988/2001 Rhodes does not have the "box" so the tiller
extension,for me, is not an option.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 8:28 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight
> course.
>
> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
>
> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
>
> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> finger.
>
> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
>
> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
>
> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a few
> moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
>
> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
> > tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted (or
> > locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> without
> > locking it totally down.
> > It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
> > Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the clutch
> or
> > the brake.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
>

From edmc18 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 12:18:07 2021
From: edmc18 at gmail.com (Ed McNamara)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:18:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Poptop slider lock
In-Reply-To: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
References: <FA39E755-5C22-4ED7-987B-A3925F83B0BB@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAC-_suS3nj5S14kA6L+FfdxmFEuiUaa+R65Jk2YVAUQe7+3=BA@mail.gmail.com>

Mine "works" but can be easily forced past the fiberglass nub that is
supposed to stop it when engaged. Has anyone experienced/rectified this
situation?

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, 4:32 PM Bruce Greenwald via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> My poptop slider  plunge lock failed last year and after some searching I
> found one from Global Industries that was an exact replacement.
> Unfortunately, it was paired with very poor keys that bent and failed
> almost immediately.  I was hoping to replace the lock using the existing
> holes but that may not be possible.  In any event, can someone recommend a
> source for a replacement?  Thanks
>
> Bruce Greenwald
> S/V Ruach  Shelter Island NY

From lgioia at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 19 00:18:30 2021
From: lgioia at yahoo.com (Larry Gioia)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 00:18:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
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Thanks for the suggestion! 
   
Yeah wind had basically died
  
I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is long enough 
  
Larry

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Larry,
>  
> 2 questions:
>  
> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head, lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the trolling motor?s prop.
>  
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>  
> ... but this is what came to mind. 
> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine before and since. 
>   
> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking. So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire away with better ideas. 
>   
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>   
> Larry
>   
> ?
>   
> 2014 R22 Language of Love 
>   
> Lake George, NY
>  

From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 08:16:09 2021
From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:16:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
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Message-ID: <F2E949B6-F627-4356-805E-91EEAF1902DE@gmail.com>

You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though, It is a lot of work.

S/V Aquetxali
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks for the suggestion! 
> 
> Yeah wind had basically died
> 
> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is long enough 
> 
> Larry
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Larry,
>> 
>> 2 questions:
>> 
>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head, lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the trolling motor?s prop.
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>> 
>> ... but this is what came to mind. 
>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine before and since. 
>> 
>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking. So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire away with better ideas. 
>> 
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>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 2014 R22 Language of Love 
>> 
>> Lake George, NY
>> 

From sea20 at verizon.net  Thu Aug 19 14:34:36 2021
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:34:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
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References: <F2E949B6-F627-4356-805E-91EEAF1902DE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1068F7BB-90D0-45CF-983D-D598C216BFF2@verizon.net>

Has anyone ever installed oar locks on their Rhodes?
Scott, 86? Pantalaimon 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though, It is a lot of work.
> 
> S/V Aquetxali
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Thanks for the suggestion! 
>> 
>> Yeah wind had basically died
>> 
>> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is long enough 
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Larry,
>>> 
>>> 2 questions:
>>> 
>>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
>>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head, lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the trolling motor?s prop.
>>> 
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>> 
>>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>>> 
>>> ... but this is what came to mind. 
>>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine before and since. 
>>> 
>>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking. So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire away with better ideas. 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> 2014 R22 Language of Love 
>>> 
>>> Lake George, NY
>>> 


From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 14:39:06 2021
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:39:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
	=?utf-8?q?There=E2=80=99s_probably_a_better_way?= =?utf-8?b?Li4u?=
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References: <F2E949B6-F627-4356-805E-91EEAF1902DE@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABkv36ZiKbXJ+KcRNnxD+-+Sr=i91e1zWPJjJX8iqL0BHvB4Kw@mail.gmail.com>

The bigger question is where would you sit?  And where would you keep the
huge oars?

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 PM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Has anyone ever installed oar locks on their Rhodes?
> Scott, 86? Pantalaimon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though, It
> is a lot of work.
> >
> > S/V Aquetxali
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Thanks for the suggestion!
> >>
> >> Yeah wind had basically died
> >>
> >> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is
> long enough
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Larry,
> >>>
> >>> 2 questions:
> >>>
> >>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> >>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the
> trolling motor?s prop.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows
> >>>
> >>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> >>>
> >>> ... but this is what came to mind.
> >>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning
> but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was
> fine before and since.
> >>>
> >>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
> away with better ideas.
> >>>
> >>> -------------- next part --------------
> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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> >>> Size: 805352 bytes
> >>> Desc: not available
> >>> URL: <
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210817/01c6f924/attachment.jpeg
> >
> >>> -------------- next part --------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >>>
> >>> Lake George, NY
> >>>
>
>

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu Aug 19 15:56:22 2021
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:56:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
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My Dad - used to keep a sort paddle on-board. 
I keep my inherited Rhodes on a mooring in Shinnecock Bay, NY. 
At low tide  I can walk to it, but I use a standup Paddle Board for a tender. 
I take the paddle with me and always  have a long paddle (in the v-berth)  which comes in handy from time to time. 
Because my tender is best used alone, I pick up passengers by backing the boat up to the beach with the rudder in the up position and the outboard as high as it goes on the old fashion manual lift.  (Which I rebuilt in-kind this season)  The prop and water intake are just deep enough to function and the keel (Must be in full up position)   stops the boat before the prop hits bottom  as long as the bottom is not steeply sloped. (Do not do this with the swing keel down, especially if you have the old style blade - bad things will happen)
If the slope is steeper, I stop the motor and tilt it up so the stern hits the beach with the momentum I create baking up.  
My passengers climb up the stern ladder from the dry beach or from shallow water and I push the added weight off the bottom with my long paddle.  I can use this method for any beach with an approach deeper than 22?. 
Of course the paddle can actually move the boat too if you ever need to, or be used when you blow the docking by a few feet, your dock lines are cleated and too short to throw,  and need the guy on the dock to grab something.
There?s always a story! 
Last and probably least, it could be used to discourage unwanted guests from coming aboard.  
We take the sailboat clamming often.
How many sailboats can you use for a clamming expedition?  
Gotta a love the Rhodes 22. 
Ric 
Dadventure 
'84 Continental


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Aug 19, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The bigger question is where would you sit?  And where would you keep the
> huge oars?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 PM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone ever installed oar locks on their Rhodes?
>> Scott, 86? Pantalaimon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though, It
>> is a lot of work.
>>> 
>>> S/V Aquetxali
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Thanks for the suggestion!
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah wind had basically died
>>>> 
>>>> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is
>> long enough
>>>> 
>>>> Larry
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Larry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2 questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
>>>>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
>> lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
>> thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the
>> trolling motor?s prop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... but this is what came to mind.
>>>>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning
>> but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was
>> fine before and since.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
>> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
>> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
>> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
>> away with better ideas.
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2014 R22 Language of Love
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lake George, NY
>>>>> 
>> 
>> 


From bgarrant at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 22:12:29 2021
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 22:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
	=?utf-8?q?There=E2=80=99s_probably_a_better_way?= =?utf-8?b?Li4u?=
In-Reply-To: <1068F7BB-90D0-45CF-983D-D598C216BFF2@verizon.net>
References: <F2E949B6-F627-4356-805E-91EEAF1902DE@gmail.com>
 <1068F7BB-90D0-45CF-983D-D598C216BFF2@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAPi3tBBGaAQj3zFHJvG5q8a+MjzzwRgZZK+091VJ8oTD=mOSYg@mail.gmail.com>

Ok
I managed to do exactly that
I purchased 9? oars, added extensions, purchased oar locks, slipped PEX
over the stems/shafts of the oar locks, and inserted the shafts into the
winches.
The extensions were added because a 9? oar is still to short for the
freeboard of the Rhodes.

The system works great?
 ? rowing a 3000 lb yacht with two oars is easy
 ?. as long as there is NO wind and NO current. Otherwise I found the oars
work better as sails and wind vanes ?

I would rather this be a fairytale or spoof ?
But ? been there, done that, got the T-shirt

I can provide pictures in case anyone needs a good laugh ? or gentle
chuckle ?

Bob G
Sail la Vie 2000/2017
Kent island MD

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 PM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Has anyone ever installed oar locks on their Rhodes?
> Scott, 86? Pantalaimon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though, It
> is a lot of work.
> >
> > S/V Aquetxali
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Thanks for the suggestion!
> >>
> >> Yeah wind had basically died
> >>
> >> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is
> long enough
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Larry,
> >>>
> >>> 2 questions:
> >>>
> >>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> >>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the
> trolling motor?s prop.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows
> >>>
> >>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> >>>
> >>> ... but this is what came to mind.
> >>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning
> but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was
> fine before and since.
> >>>
> >>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
> away with better ideas.
> >>>
> >>> -------------- next part --------------
> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >>> Name: image0.jpeg
> >>> Type: image/jpeg
> >>> Size: 805352 bytes
> >>> Desc: not available
> >>> URL: <
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210817/01c6f924/attachment.jpeg
> >
> >>> -------------- next part --------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >>>
> >>> Lake George, NY
> >>>
>
>

From bgarrant at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 22:16:02 2021
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 22:16:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
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So sculling with the tiller does work more efficiently ? again, given there
is no wind and no current working against you

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:12 PM Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok
> I managed to do exactly that
> I purchased 9? oars, added extensions, purchased oar locks, slipped PEX
> over the stems/shafts of the oar locks, and inserted the shafts into the
> winches.
> The extensions were added because a 9? oar is still to short for the
> freeboard of the Rhodes.
>
> The system works great?
>  ? rowing a 3000 lb yacht with two oars is easy
>  ?. as long as there is NO wind and NO current. Otherwise I found the oars
> work better as sails and wind vanes ?
>
> I would rather this be a fairytale or spoof ?
> But ? been there, done that, got the T-shirt
>
> I can provide pictures in case anyone needs a good laugh ? or gentle
> chuckle ?
>
> Bob G
> Sail la Vie 2000/2017
> Kent island MD
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 PM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever installed oar locks on their Rhodes?
>> Scott, 86? Pantalaimon
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though,
>> It is a lot of work.
>> >
>> > S/V Aquetxali
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ?Thanks for the suggestion!
>> >>
>> >> Yeah wind had basically died
>> >>
>> >> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is
>> long enough
>> >>
>> >> Larry
>> >>
>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ?
>> >>> Larry,
>> >>>
>> >>> 2 questions:
>> >>>
>> >>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
>> >>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
>> lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
>> thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the
>> trolling motor?s prop.
>> >>>
>> >>> Roger Pihlaja
>> >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
>> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>> >>>
>> >>> ... but this is what came to mind.
>> >>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning
>> but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was
>> fine before and since.
>> >>>
>> >>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
>> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
>> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
>> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
>> away with better ideas.
>> >>>
>> >>> -------------- next part --------------
>> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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>> >>> Desc: not available
>> >>> URL: <
>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210817/01c6f924/attachment.jpeg
>> >
>> >>> -------------- next part --------------
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Larry
>> >>>
>> >>> ?
>> >>>
>> >>> 2014 R22 Language of Love
>> >>>
>> >>> Lake George, NY
>> >>>
>>
>>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Aug 20 16:15:23 2021
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 16:15:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2021 United States Sailboat Show
Message-ID: <000e01d79600$1c7bf0d0$5573d270$@ebsmed.com>

General Boats is listed at "Land 62 & Land 61" at the Annapolis Sailboat
Show, Oct 14-18.

 

I plan on being there on Saturday and/or Sunday. Is anyone else planning to
attend? Party (or dinner) anyone?

 

Stan, you do plan to attend, right?

 

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

I'd rather be sailing :~)

 

 


From forg3d at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 17:36:13 2021
From: forg3d at gmail.com (Jeffrey Camiel)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:36:13 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hurricane Henri
Message-ID: <F61A5961-6D65-48B7-BA80-52EB050A82CC@gmail.com>

Just an FYI

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/20/1029626711/new-england-is-under-a-hurricane-watch-for-the-first-time-in-years



Sent from my iPhone

From mark at whipplefamily.com  Fri Aug 20 22:06:06 2021
From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 22:06:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help with lowering the jib on a CDI furler
Message-ID: <CA+WP5AQZU3dXNifpGeGatL5Q26fQRqbzjjHtapNKHBriKvo20g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

It looks like Henri is headed for Long Island Sound instead of Cape Cod and
eastern MA. So while I've decided not to haul out my R22, I would like to
strike the jib. It looks like the furler on our boats is typically a CDI
FF2 Furler, correct?

I found a manual for that furler on the CDI website (click here
<https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57a94d9febbd1a5a5122da58/t/57ed7dc0e58c6251287394fb/1475182022727/FF2+manual.pdf>
if
interested). It looks like I need to attach a messenger line to the halyard
that's tied to the furler drum. Can anyone tell me if I can simply tie a
knot to attach the messenger to the halyard? That is, can I lower the jib
sufficiently without that knot going through the block at the top of the
furler?

Thanks for any help you can provide on short notice. I'm headed out to the
boat tomorrow morning.

Thanks,
Mark

Boston, MA

2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 07:56:17 2021
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:56:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help with lowering the jib on a CDI furler
In-Reply-To: <CA+WP5AQZU3dXNifpGeGatL5Q26fQRqbzjjHtapNKHBriKvo20g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+WP5AQZU3dXNifpGeGatL5Q26fQRqbzjjHtapNKHBriKvo20g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_Fjc7tqiQ5KaauJDYUDEmeU1_CBNaRS1QS6Qrf1cwq+Y3EQ@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

I just make sure that the furled sail is wrapped completely with the jib
sheets at least one full turn around it.  Then make sure the jib sheets and
furler lines are secured.  Also, wrap 1 or 2 bungess around the furled sail
for extra protection.  I lost the Carol Lee to a hurricane in 2011 but it
swamped and turtled and was demasted.  The genoa never opened.

Good luck.

*Thanks and Stay Well,*

*Stephen Staum*

*s/v Pinafore (formerly Carol Lee 2)*
*Hingham Shipyard Marina*

*Hingham, MA*



On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:06 PM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It looks like Henri is headed for Long Island Sound instead of Cape Cod and
> eastern MA. So while I've decided not to haul out my R22, I would like to
> strike the jib. It looks like the furler on our boats is typically a CDI
> FF2 Furler, correct?
>
> I found a manual for that furler on the CDI website (click here
> <
> https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57a94d9febbd1a5a5122da58/t/57ed7dc0e58c6251287394fb/1475182022727/FF2+manual.pdf
> >
> if
> interested). It looks like I need to attach a messenger line to the halyard
> that's tied to the furler drum. Can anyone tell me if I can simply tie a
> knot to attach the messenger to the halyard? That is, can I lower the jib
> sufficiently without that knot going through the block at the top of the
> furler?
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide on short notice. I'm headed out to the
> boat tomorrow morning.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> Boston, MA
>
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 08:59:12 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 08:59:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Help with lowering the jib on a CDI furler
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmkUoHFFDo1M0XAmvM6Nr2j_iHMPgzCmO+e3sVL+3DovjA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mark,
In answer to your question: yes you can tie a messenger to the halyard to
lower the jib.
As the CDI is repeatedly used the halyard cuts a groove in the plastic
where it passes over the top (there is no sheave) resulting in difficulty
raising and lowering the jib.
CDI sells a replacement which either has a stainless plate over which the
halyard passes or a sheave.  I'm not sure which. When I enquired 2 years
ago for parts to replace the "top piece", the halyard (it is proprietary)
and  ball bearings for the furler drum, the price was about $250.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
Radiant, 2009/201
Atlantic Highlands, NJ

From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com  Sat Aug 21 12:34:37 2021
From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:34:37 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trolling Motor On The Rudder Head
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB69201927BF2AF7DB850F57CC80C29@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,

The attached photo is my Minn Kota trolling motor clamped onto the rudder head and turned 90 deg.  I have the tilt adjusted slightly to starboard so the trolling motor?s prop clears the rudder blade.   On my trolling motor, there is a set collar that limits how far down the shaft will extend.  I have it adjusted to fit my Walker Bay RIB.  It will go down another 3-4 inches; but, it requires an Allen head wrench to adjust and I didn?t want to mess with it.  You can see by the relationship of the trolling motor?s prop to the waterline stripe; that, another 3-4 inches would submerge the prop sufficiently to get you home.  If that wasn?t sufficient; then, you could kick up the rudder blade and clamp the trolling motor onto the trailing edge of the rudder blade.  The only issue then would be, are the power wires for the trolling motor long enough to reach back over the transom.  My wires are just barely long enough if the battery were sitting on the lazarette hatch right at the transom.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

[cid:image003.jpg at 01D79684.52C65CA0]

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sat Aug 21 12:34:42 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 16:34:42 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip
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Hi All,

Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.

I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 12:53:14 2021
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 12:53:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip
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Good for you for giving those boys an introduction to paddling, Roger.  I used to teach rowing at a Boy Scout camp in North Carolina, and I still go swamp canoeing every year with my buddies, so I?m a big proponent of learning the skills of self-propelled water travel.  

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.
> 
> I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
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From sea20 at verizon.net  Sat Aug 21 15:57:16 2021
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:57:16 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip
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That?s awesome Roger, our troop has always been very small and the boys only took water sports for the merit badge. We haven?t had any cross over scouts since before the virus started. 
Hope you have a great time!
Scott & Rebecca 
86? Rhodes22 Pantalaimon 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Good for you for giving those boys an introduction to paddling, Roger.  I used to teach rowing at a Boy Scout camp in North Carolina, and I still go swamp canoeing every year with my buddies, so I?m a big proponent of learning the skills of self-propelled water travel.  
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.
>> 
>> I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sat Aug 21 17:15:01 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 21:15:01 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip
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Hi Scott,

COVID-19 has complicated everything about operating and recruiting for a Boy Scout program. Our troop met virtually on-line via Zoom for a year and then outside with masks and temperature checks.  We haven?t car pooled to events in a year and a half.  I thought the Chemistry merit badge via Zoom.  Although it?s far from ideal, we?ve managed to hold onto youth and even recruited a few new youth.  Maybe, there aren?t too many other alternatives for youth.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
ASM TT767, Midland, MI

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?That?s awesome Roger, our troop has always been very small and the boys only took water sports for the merit badge. We haven?t had any cross over scouts since before the virus started. 
> Hope you have a great time!
> Scott & Rebecca 
> 86? Rhodes22 Pantalaimon 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Good for you for giving those boys an introduction to paddling, Roger.  I used to teach rowing at a Boy Scout camp in North Carolina, and I still go swamp canoeing every year with my buddies, so I?m a big proponent of learning the skills of self-propelled water travel.  
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> Frank Goldsmith
>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>> Fairview, NC
>> Lake Keowee, SC
>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.
>>> 
>>> I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.
>>> 
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>> 
>>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
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From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 15:28:09 2021
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 15:28:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Genoas and Bimini Top for Sale Excellent
	Bargain
Message-ID: <CAJK53d+AYvpLY=ofHoWAn+h+vJwvr3X4wKcQ5WC0Guanw4211w@mail.gmail.com>

 Rhodes22 Sails and Bimini.zip
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3/view?usp=drive_web>

I have 2 Rhodes 22 Genoas in excellent condition for sale:

1. A full size genoa
2. A 140 Genoa

Both are rigged for the original Rhodes 22 furler that Stan designed.

Pictures, including measurements of each base, are attached. Both sails are
in excellent condition and have been cleaned and stored in a climate
controlled setting..The 140 has some scuff marks but not that visible at 5
paces

I had previously listed these, and got swamped at work (Covid 19, I am an
MD) now have time to re-list (I retired).

 Also for sale is a Bimini top in mint condition-really like new

PRICES:

BOTH SAILS $950.00 PLUS SHIPPING
EACH SAIL; $500.00 PLUS SHIPPING
BIMIN TOP: $350.00 (WOULD NEED TO PICK THIS UP)

Can do via paypal

I live in Beaufort NC 28516
Can email me at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com

Happy sailing

David Talbot
The Fig

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 20:19:28 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:19:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Genoas and Bimini Top for Sale
	Excellent Bargain
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Hi David, your link didn?t work. I?m may be interested in one of your Genoas. 

Thanks,

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:29 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ? Rhodes22 Sails and Bimini.zip
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3/view?usp=drive_web>
> 
> I have 2 Rhodes 22 Genoas in excellent condition for sale:
> 
> 1. A full size genoa
> 2. A 140 Genoa
> 
> Both are rigged for the original Rhodes 22 furler that Stan designed.
> 
> Pictures, including measurements of each base, are attached. Both sails are
> in excellent condition and have been cleaned and stored in a climate
> controlled setting..The 140 has some scuff marks but not that visible at 5
> paces
> 
> I had previously listed these, and got swamped at work (Covid 19, I am an
> MD) now have time to re-list (I retired).
> 
> Also for sale is a Bimini top in mint condition-really like new
> 
> PRICES:
> 
> BOTH SAILS $950.00 PLUS SHIPPING
> EACH SAIL; $500.00 PLUS SHIPPING
> BIMIN TOP: $350.00 (WOULD NEED TO PICK THIS UP)
> 
> Can do via paypal
> 
> I live in Beaufort NC 28516
> Can email me at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> 
> Happy sailing
> 
> David Talbot
> The Fig

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sun Aug 22 20:27:53 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 00:27:53 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I think we have a hacker on the list!
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Hi All,

Read the below attached post, supposedly from Scott Andrews in response to a thread about a Boy Scout Camping/Paddling trip next weekend.  Is this bizarre enough for you?  Not sure who is the webmaster for the list these days.  But, I think somebody has hacked into Scott Andrews Rhodes22-list account.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: SCOTT ANDREWS<mailto:sseaa20 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:03 PM
To: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip

Great to hear from you, I need you to get a Apple iTunes gift cards for a friend who is down with cancer of the Liver, it's his birthday today and I promised to get it for him, but I can't do this now because I'm currently out of town and all my effort purchasing it online proved abortive.. Can you get it from any store around you for me? I'll reimburse you once i return. Please let me know if you can handle this so I can tell you the amount and how to get them to me.


Scott
Sent from my iPhone

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:15 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
Hi Scott,

COVID-19 has complicated everything about operating and recruiting for a Boy Scout program. Our troop met virtually on-line via Zoom for a year and then outside with masks and temperature checks.  We haven?t car pooled to events in a year and a half.  I thought the Chemistry merit badge via Zoom.  Although it?s far from ideal, we?ve managed to hold onto youth and even recruited a few new youth.  Maybe, there aren?t too many other alternatives for youth.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
ASM TT767, Midland, MI

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> wrote:
>
> ?That?s awesome Roger, our troop has always been very small and the boys only took water sports for the merit badge. We haven?t had any cross over scouts since before the virus started.
> Hope you have a great time!
> Scott & Rebecca
> 86? Rhodes22 Pantalaimon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com<mailto:goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ?Good for you for giving those boys an introduction to paddling, Roger.  I used to teach rowing at a Boy Scout camp in North Carolina, and I still go swamp canoeing every year with my buddies, so I?m a big proponent of learning the skills of self-propelled water travel.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Frank Goldsmith
>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>> Fairview, NC
>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.
>>>
>>> I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.
>>>
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>
>>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
>>>
>>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
>>>
>>>
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>


From bgarrant at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 20:34:33 2021
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:34:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
	=?utf-8?q?There=E2=80=99s_probably_a_better_way?= =?utf-8?b?Li4u?=
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You definitely have to stand when using the extended oars and it?s still a
challenge to keep the blades in the water. Storing them inside the cabin is
cumbersome. Again it was an ?interesting? experiment only lacking a
positive outcome. But we continue to tinker away ?
Bob Garrant
s/v Sail la Vie 2000/2017

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:39 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> The bigger question is where would you sit?  And where would you keep the
> huge oars?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 PM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone ever installed oar locks on their Rhodes?
> > Scott, 86? Pantalaimon
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?You can propel the boat by moving the tiller back and forth. Though,
> It
> > is a lot of work.
> > >
> > > S/V Aquetxali
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Thanks for the suggestion!
> > >>
> > >> Yeah wind had basically died
> > >>
> > >> I?m trying to picture it, I?ll try it! Not sure my trolling motor is
> > long enough
> > >>
> > >> Larry
> > >>
> > >>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ?
> > >>> Larry,
> > >>>
> > >>> 2 questions:
> > >>>
> > >>> Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> > >>> Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> > lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> > thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear
> the
> > trolling motor?s prop.
> > >>>
> > >>> Roger Pihlaja
> > >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from Mail for Windows
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> > >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > >>>
> > >>> ... but this is what came to mind.
> > >>> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning
> > but still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was
> > fine before and since.
> > >>>
> > >>> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Larry
> > >>>
> > >>> ?
> > >>>
> > >>> 2014 R22 Language of Love
> > >>>
> > >>> Lake George, NY
> > >>>
> >
> >
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 20:51:33 2021
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:51:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I think we have a hacker on the list!
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Clearly a scam, so someone must have hacked into da list.  


> On Aug 22, 2021, at 8:27 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Read the below attached post, supposedly from Scott Andrews in response to a thread about a Boy Scout Camping/Paddling trip next weekend.  Is this bizarre enough for you?  Not sure who is the webmaster for the list these days.  But, I think somebody has hacked into Scott Andrews Rhodes22-list account.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 
> From: SCOTT ANDREWS<mailto:sseaa20 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:03 PM
> To: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip
> 
> Great to hear from you, I need you to get a Apple iTunes gift cards for a friend who is down with cancer of the Liver, it's his birthday today and I promised to get it for him, but I can't do this now because I'm currently out of town and all my effort purchasing it online proved abortive.. Can you get it from any store around you for me? I'll reimburse you once i return. Please let me know if you can handle this so I can tell you the amount and how to get them to me.
> 
> 
> Scott
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:15 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> COVID-19 has complicated everything about operating and recruiting for a Boy Scout program. Our troop met virtually on-line via Zoom for a year and then outside with masks and temperature checks.  We haven?t car pooled to events in a year and a half.  I thought the Chemistry merit badge via Zoom.  Although it?s far from ideal, we?ve managed to hold onto youth and even recruited a few new youth.  Maybe, there aren?t too many other alternatives for youth.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> ASM TT767, Midland, MI
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?That?s awesome Roger, our troop has always been very small and the boys only took water sports for the merit badge. We haven?t had any cross over scouts since before the virus started.
>> Hope you have a great time!
>> Scott & Rebecca
>> 86? Rhodes22 Pantalaimon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com<mailto:goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Good for you for giving those boys an introduction to paddling, Roger.  I used to teach rowing at a Boy Scout camp in North Carolina, and I still go swamp canoeing every year with my buddies, so I?m a big proponent of learning the skills of self-propelled water travel.
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.
>>>> 
>>>> I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>> 
>>>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
>>>> 
>>>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
>>>> 
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> 


From sea20 at verizon.net  Sun Aug 22 20:55:40 2021
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:55:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I think we have a hacker on the list!
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That is definitely a hacker, please disregard.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 8:27 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi All,
> 
> Read the below attached post, supposedly from Scott Andrews in response to a thread about a Boy Scout Camping/Paddling trip next weekend.  Is this bizarre enough for you?  Not sure who is the webmaster for the list these days.  But, I think somebody has hacked into Scott Andrews Rhodes22-list account.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 
> From: SCOTT ANDREWS<mailto:sseaa20 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:03 PM
> To: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boy Scout Camping/Paddling Trip
> 
> Great to hear from you, I need you to get a Apple iTunes gift cards for a friend who is down with cancer of the Liver, it's his birthday today and I promised to get it for him, but I can't do this now because I'm currently out of town and all my effort purchasing it online proved abortive.. Can you get it from any store around you for me? I'll reimburse you once i return. Please let me know if you can handle this so I can tell you the amount and how to get them to me.
> 
> 
> Scott
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:15 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> COVID-19 has complicated everything about operating and recruiting for a Boy Scout program. Our troop met virtually on-line via Zoom for a year and then outside with masks and temperature checks.  We haven?t car pooled to events in a year and a half.  I thought the Chemistry merit badge via Zoom.  Although it?s far from ideal, we?ve managed to hold onto youth and even recruited a few new youth.  Maybe, there aren?t too many other alternatives for youth.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> ASM TT767, Midland, MI
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?That?s awesome Roger, our troop has always been very small and the boys only took water sports for the merit badge. We haven?t had any cross over scouts since before the virus started.
>> Hope you have a great time!
>> Scott & Rebecca
>> 86? Rhodes22 Pantalaimon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com<mailto:goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Good for you for giving those boys an introduction to paddling, Roger.  I used to teach rowing at a Boy Scout camp in North Carolina, and I still go swamp canoeing every year with my buddies, so I?m a big proponent of learning the skills of self-propelled water travel.
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Attached are a couple of photos of my other water toys all ready to go and play.  Next weekend, my Boy Scout Troop is going on a weekend camping/paddling trip to Cooke Dam Pond ( i.e. the lake created by Cooke Dam on the Au Sable River) in the NE lower peninsula.  We have 4 new crossover Webelos Scouts that can?t swim very well yet.  So, we can?t just turn them loose in a canoe or kayak.  In order to give them a paddling experience, I plan to put these 4 Webelos in PFD?s with canoe paddles, one in each corner, sitting on the inflation tubes of my RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat).  I will sit on the seat in the middle with my rowing oars.  With 5 of us paddling, we should have no trouble keeping up.  Although, it may be tough to go in a straight line until we learn to work together!  The RIB is rated at > 1400 lbs load.  With all the floatation around the perimeter, the RIB is so stable; that, it?s almost impossible to flip over.  Plus, we have the Honda outboard if things go crooked.  I will, of course, have a rescue throw bag.
>>>> 
>>>> I?ve never travelled with this configuration of watercraft before.  It?s not bad on the expressway, although side winds affect it quite a bit.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>> 
>>>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
>>>> 
>>>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D79684.7E6E5B50]
>>>> 
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> 


From mitchpadl at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 20:59:13 2021
From: mitchpadl at gmail.com (Mitch Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:59:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Genoas and Bimini Top for Sale
 Excellent Bargain
In-Reply-To: <FC4D96D7-0C5C-454F-A942-F36A4E38D15E@gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53d+AYvpLY=ofHoWAn+h+vJwvr3X4wKcQ5WC0Guanw4211w@mail.gmail.com>
 <FC4D96D7-0C5C-454F-A942-F36A4E38D15E@gmail.com>
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Hi David, I would also be interested but pictures did not come through.
Thanks, Mitch

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:19 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David, your link didn?t work. I?m may be interested in one of your
> Genoas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:29 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ? Rhodes22 Sails and Bimini.zip
> > <
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3/view?usp=drive_web
> >
> >
> > I have 2 Rhodes 22 Genoas in excellent condition for sale:
> >
> > 1. A full size genoa
> > 2. A 140 Genoa
> >
> > Both are rigged for the original Rhodes 22 furler that Stan designed.
> >
> > Pictures, including measurements of each base, are attached. Both sails
> are
> > in excellent condition and have been cleaned and stored in a climate
> > controlled setting..The 140 has some scuff marks but not that visible at
> 5
> > paces
> >
> > I had previously listed these, and got swamped at work (Covid 19, I am an
> > MD) now have time to re-list (I retired).
> >
> > Also for sale is a Bimini top in mint condition-really like new
> >
> > PRICES:
> >
> > BOTH SAILS $950.00 PLUS SHIPPING
> > EACH SAIL; $500.00 PLUS SHIPPING
> > BIMIN TOP: $350.00 (WOULD NEED TO PICK THIS UP)
> >
> > Can do via paypal
> >
> > I live in Beaufort NC 28516
> > Can email me at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> >
> > Happy sailing
> >
> > David Talbot
> > The Fig
>

From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 21:53:28 2021
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:53:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Genoas and Bimini Top for Sale
 Excellent Bargain
In-Reply-To: <CAFTyJNW-Ek1ATG=U+8nuvrsxFvpH8jAmXsmiWxCwvwLu2WSQvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK53d+AYvpLY=ofHoWAn+h+vJwvr3X4wKcQ5WC0Guanw4211w@mail.gmail.com>
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Will repair in the morning!

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:59 PM, Mitch Mitchell <mitchpadl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David, I would also be interested but pictures did not come through.
> Thanks, Mitch
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:19 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David, your link didn?t work. I?m may be interested in one of your
> > Genoas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:29 PM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ? Rhodes22 Sails and Bimini.zip
> > > <
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3/view?usp=drive_web
> > >
> > >
> > > I have 2 Rhodes 22 Genoas in excellent condition for sale:
> > >
> > > 1. A full size genoa
> > > 2. A 140 Genoa
> > >
> > > Both are rigged for the original Rhodes 22 furler that Stan designed.
> > >
> > > Pictures, including measurements of each base, are attached. Both sails
> > are
> > > in excellent condition and have been cleaned and stored in a climate
> > > controlled setting..The 140 has some scuff marks but not that visible
> at
> > 5
> > > paces
> > >
> > > I had previously listed these, and got swamped at work (Covid 19, I am
> an
> > > MD) now have time to re-list (I retired).
> > >
> > > Also for sale is a Bimini top in mint condition-really like new
> > >
> > > PRICES:
> > >
> > > BOTH SAILS $950.00 PLUS SHIPPING
> > > EACH SAIL; $500.00 PLUS SHIPPING
> > > BIMIN TOP: $350.00 (WOULD NEED TO PICK THIS UP)
> > >
> > > Can do via paypal
> > >
> > > I live in Beaufort NC 28516
> > > Can email me at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com
> > >
> > > Happy sailing
> > >
> > > David Talbot
> > > The Fig
> >
>

From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 22:07:15 2021
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:07:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend
Message-ID: <CAMc-3foogj-eGGQ8+OmrL_Z8O4ZjxL8KuinL=R_Dv+NcS57KtQ@mail.gmail.com>

We had great sailing weather this weekend.  I went out sailing with my dad
on Saturday afternoon and after grabbing dinner on land with him, I went
back out and anchored out for the night.  A friend was anchoring out nearby
and took a photo of Zephyr at anchor.  You can see that I used the pop top
cover, and then draped a big mosquito net over top of the bimini which
creates a large bug free zone.  I put on the cockpit filler planks that I
made, pushed the cockpit cushions together and slept in the cockpit.  There
was quite a bit of light due to the full "blue" moon.  In the morning, I
did some single handed sailing which I hadn't done for a while.  A friend
lives in a condo by the lake and took a few photos while I was out for the
morning sail.  We had afternoon cruiser races on Sunday afternoon but I was
crewing on a Capri 22 for that.  The image quality on some of the photos is
not great since a few were taken from a distance.

Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 23 09:03:49 2021
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:03:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend
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Message-ID: <989aed5e-b2ac-4762-a8b7-bebd4d5cc496@Spark>

Nice photos. Thanks.
On Aug 22, 2021, 10:07 PM -0400, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>, wrote:
> We had great sailing weather this weekend. I went out sailing with my dad
> on Saturday afternoon and after grabbing dinner on land with him, I went
> back out and anchored out for the night. A friend was anchoring out nearby
> and took a photo of Zephyr at anchor. You can see that I used the pop top
> cover, and then draped a big mosquito net over top of the bimini which
> creates a large bug free zone. I put on the cockpit filler planks that I
> made, pushed the cockpit cushions together and slept in the cockpit. There
> was quite a bit of light due to the full "blue" moon. In the morning, I
> did some single handed sailing which I hadn't done for a while. A friend
> lives in a condo by the lake and took a few photos while I was out for the
> morning sail. We had afternoon cruiser races on Sunday afternoon but I was
> crewing on a Capri 22 for that. The image quality on some of the photos is
> not great since a few were taken from a distance.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
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From stevenalm at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 09:41:34 2021
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 08:41:34 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
Message-ID: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>

I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it was
not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not grounded
or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual ? so
maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
their habitat.

But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the big
sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had this
happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.

I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control line
but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.

Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I replaced
them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.

Thanks for any ideas
Slim
Fandango

From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 09:52:20 2021
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale
Message-ID: <CAJK53dLQ8Lhx1DPz+HLN7N5Px13Z+5VawngA1vsezo5WdNH1Uw@mail.gmail.com>

All,
I am having difficulty attaching any photos to this email, but if you are
interested  you can email me directly at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com and I'll
send a dropbox link

David

From bobfcohen at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 09:56:20 2021
From: bobfcohen at gmail.com (Robert Cohen)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:56:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAMc-3foogj-eGGQ8+OmrL_Z8O4ZjxL8KuinL=R_Dv+NcS57KtQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMc-3foogj-eGGQ8+OmrL_Z8O4ZjxL8KuinL=R_Dv+NcS57KtQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29637A45-520D-41DD-A4B6-5A1D3EE4308E@gmail.com>

Thanks for the good photos, Jesse.
It sounds like you had a sweet weekend.
Bob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?We had great sailing weather this weekend.  I went out sailing with my dad
> on Saturday afternoon and after grabbing dinner on land with him, I went
> back out and anchored out for the night.  A friend was anchoring out nearby
> and took a photo of Zephyr at anchor.  You can see that I used the pop top
> cover, and then draped a big mosquito net over top of the bimini which
> creates a large bug free zone.  I put on the cockpit filler planks that I
> made, pushed the cockpit cushions together and slept in the cockpit.  There
> was quite a bit of light due to the full "blue" moon.  In the morning, I
> did some single handed sailing which I hadn't done for a while.  A friend
> lives in a condo by the lake and took a few photos while I was out for the
> morning sail.  We had afternoon cruiser races on Sunday afternoon but I was
> crewing on a Capri 22 for that.  The image quality on some of the photos is
> not great since a few were taken from a distance.
> 
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Mon Aug 23 10:32:30 2021
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b401d7982b$b57ea2f0$207be8d0$@ca>

This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I "discovered" that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to place them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt must not be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold the head with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.

Graham Stewart
gstewart8 at cogeco.ca






-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steven Alm
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
To: Rhodes
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem

I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it was
not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not grounded
or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual ? so
maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
their habitat.

But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the big
sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had this
happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.

I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control line
but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.

Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I replaced
them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.

Thanks for any ideas
Slim
Fandango


From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Aug 23 10:37:42 2021
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:37:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CAJK53dLQ8Lhx1DPz+HLN7N5Px13Z+5VawngA1vsezo5WdNH1Uw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.1522.1629729471.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

This is the link to download the photos as a zip file:https://drive.google.com/u/0/uc?export=download&confirm=p3cZ&id=1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3Mikes/v Wind Lass ('91)Nissequogue,? NY
-------- Original message --------From: David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> Date: 8/23/21  9:53 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale All,I am having difficulty attaching any photos to this email, but if you areinterested? you can email me directly at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com and I'llsend a dropbox linkDavid

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Aug 23 10:40:29 2021
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:40:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b401d7982b$b57ea2f0$207be8d0$@ca>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
 <00b401d7982b$b57ea2f0$207be8d0$@ca>
Message-ID: <A5AB62EB-AB55-4987-B7AD-E2691F6F09AB@stottarchitecture.com>

I suggest taking a swim.
Dive under the boat with something long and skinny (I use a long screw driver)  to clear any muscles (or stones) from the space between the Center Board and the Trunk. If my boat rests on the bottom at super low tide, sometimes stones get jammed between and the CB it will not move until cleared. Be careful to keep the control line locked so it doesn?t drop unexpectedly on you while you are under the boat if you do clear the jamb. 
If there is any play in the control line at all, sometimes it can be cleared by lifting/dropping - lifting/dropping over and over  with the control line. 
Good Luck 
Ric 
Dadventure 
HBNY 

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Aug 23, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I "discovered" that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to place them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt must not be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold the head with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steven Alm
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: Rhodes
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> 
> I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it was
> not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not grounded
> or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
> mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
> Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
> bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
> third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual ? so
> maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
> their habitat.
> 
> But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the big
> sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
> expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had this
> happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.
> 
> I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control line
> but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> 
> Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I replaced
> them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas
> Slim
> Fandango
> 


From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Aug 23 10:41:36 2021
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:41:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1522.1629729471.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <mailman.1523.1629729703.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>


This is the link to download the photos as a zip file:?https://drive.google.com/u/0/uc?export=download&confirm=p3cZ&id=1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3? ? ??Mikes/v Wind Lass ('91)Nissequogue,? NY-------- Original message --------From: David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> Date: 8/23/21? 9:53 AM? (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale All,I am having difficulty attaching any photos to this email, but if you areinterested? you can email me directly at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com and I'llsend a dropbox linkDavid

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Mon Aug 23 10:49:54 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:49:54 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6920951264624EBBB155359780C49@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Steven,

With boat in its slip and the centerboard lowered, put on your snorkeling gear and inspect:

1. Check that the centerboard pennant isn?t jammed up in between the board and the side of the well.

2. Check that there isn?t a big glob of sticky Mississippi mud stuck up in the well and jamming smooth movement.  

3. While the centerboard is down, check for radial and side-to-side play in the pivot.  My pivot had to be replaced several years ago.  In my case, the worn pivot didn?t jam the centerboard.  Rather, it just caused the board to ?clunk? against the sides of the centerboard well.  But, if the wear was severe enough, it could cause the centerboard to jam.  But, this would be a progressive degradation, not sudden as in your case.

4. You might also have a broken block on the centerboard pennant.  But, this should also be detectable from beneath the boat with the centerboard lowered.

Good luck!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it was
> not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not grounded
> or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
> mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
> Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
> bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
> third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual ? so
> maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
> their habitat.
> 
> But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the big
> sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
> expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had this
> happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.
> 
> I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control line
> but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> 
> Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I replaced
> them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas
> Slim
> Fandango

From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 10:55:31 2021
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:55:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1523.1629729703.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.1522.1629729471.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
 <mailman.1523.1629729703.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CAJK53dKuCieHU0WE0qQPanj+koAoPrPAmR_uKrMuksM0QizyVg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:41 AM, mweisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

>
> This is the link to download the photos as a zip file:
> https://drive.google.com/u/0/uc?export=download&confirm=p3cZ&id=1lHqX3MxQwG1jonQpU9Ohh1GEr4sV_Jf3
>     Mikes/v Wind Lass ('91)Nissequogue,  NY-------- Original message
> --------From: David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> Date: 8/23/21  9:53
> AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoas and Bimini for Sale All,I am having
> difficulty attaching any photos to this email, but if you areinterested
> you can email me directly at talbotdavid50 at gmail.com and I'llsend a
> dropbox linkDavid
>

From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 23 11:29:59 2021
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 15:29:59 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b401d7982b$b57ea2f0$207be8d0$@ca>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
 <00b401d7982b$b57ea2f0$207be8d0$@ca>
Message-ID: <SN6PR04MB5438C8AD9ABADB1A62CD1C30D9C49@SN6PR04MB5438.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will end up testing the positive flotation system. 

Don?t ask me how I know 

Sent from my iPhone

Charles Nieman


> On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I "discovered" that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to place them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt must not be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold the head with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steven Alm
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: Rhodes
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> 
> I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it was
> not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not grounded
> or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
> mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
> Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
> bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
> third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual ? so
> maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
> their habitat.
> 
> But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the big
> sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
> expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had this
> happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.
> 
> I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control line
> but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> 
> Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I replaced
> them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas
> Slim
> Fandango
> 

From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 11:34:50 2021
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:34:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR04MB5438C8AD9ABADB1A62CD1C30D9C49@SN6PR04MB5438.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
 <00b401d7982b$b57ea2f0$207be8d0$@ca>
 <SN6PR04MB5438C8AD9ABADB1A62CD1C30D9C49@SN6PR04MB5438.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAJK53dJX9FTE3V9p+YJAOcOoRZfgjDN3nH1so380XSNrq7oAyA@mail.gmail.com>

As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed it?

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the
> waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will end up
> testing the positive flotation system.
>
> Don?t ask me how I know
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Charles Nieman
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> >
> > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I "discovered"
> that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to place
> them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt must not
> be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold the head
> with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Steven Alm
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> > To: Rhodes
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> >
> > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it was
> > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not
> grounded
> > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
> > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
> > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
> > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
> > third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual ?
> so
> > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
> > their habitat.
> >
> > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the big
> > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
> > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had this
> > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.
> >
> > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control
> line
> > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> >
> > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I
> replaced
> > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas
> > Slim
> > Fandango
> >
>

From rlowe at vt.edu  Mon Aug 23 12:23:00 2021
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:23:00 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend
In-Reply-To: <CAMc-3foogj-eGGQ8+OmrL_Z8O4ZjxL8KuinL=R_Dv+NcS57KtQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Jesse,
Very nice!  Sounds like a most prefect weekend! - Rob

________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 10:07 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend

We had great sailing weather this weekend.  I went out sailing with my dad
on Saturday afternoon and after grabbing dinner on land with him, I went
back out and anchored out for the night.  A friend was anchoring out nearby
and took a photo of Zephyr at anchor.  You can see that I used the pop top
cover, and then draped a big mosquito net over top of the bimini which
creates a large bug free zone.  I put on the cockpit filler planks that I
made, pushed the cockpit cushions together and slept in the cockpit.  There
was quite a bit of light due to the full "blue" moon.  In the morning, I
did some single handed sailing which I hadn't done for a while.  A friend
lives in a condo by the lake and took a few photos while I was out for the
morning sail.  We had afternoon cruiser races on Sunday afternoon but I was
crewing on a Capri 22 for that.  The image quality on some of the photos is
not great since a few were taken from a distance.

Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr
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From stevenalm at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 15:39:23 2021
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:39:23 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
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I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel lift to
inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's a
fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna pass
on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just downstream
from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who knows
what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've heard of
"Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of "Peppie"
have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
Slim
Fandango

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed it?
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
> blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the
> > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will end
> up
> > testing the positive flotation system.
> >
> > Don?t ask me how I know
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Charles Nieman
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I "discovered"
> > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to
> place
> > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt must
> not
> > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold the
> head
> > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> > >
> > > Graham Stewart
> > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Steven Alm
> > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> > > To: Rhodes
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> > >
> > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it
> was
> > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not
> > grounded
> > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
> > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
> > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these little
> > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is our
> > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than usual
> ?
> > so
> > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer to
> > > their habitat.
> > >
> > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the
> big
> > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
> > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had
> this
> > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better idea.
> > >
> > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the control
> > line
> > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> > >
> > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I
> > replaced
> > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if ever.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any ideas
> > > Slim
> > > Fandango
> > >
> >
>

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 15:59:19 2021
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 15:59:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <CANtNeFBch=jH1H2sLQ9Ro=YAXq7Efk9b5bmtuQM-+QBvWJ_UWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Stephen,

You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off the
mussels.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel lift to
> inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
> certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's a
> fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna pass
> on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just downstream
> from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who knows
> what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've heard of
> "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of "Peppie"
> have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
> Slim
> Fandango
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed it?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
> > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the
> > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will
> end
> > up
> > > testing the positive flotation system.
> > >
> > > Don?t ask me how I know
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > Charles Nieman
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I "discovered"
> > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to
> > place
> > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt must
> > not
> > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold the
> > head
> > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> > > >
> > > > Graham Stewart
> > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> > > > To: Rhodes
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> > > >
> > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday it
> > was
> > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not
> > > grounded
> > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with zebra
> > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of The
> > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these
> little
> > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is
> our
> > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than
> usual
> > ?
> > > so
> > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me closer
> to
> > > > their habitat.
> > > >
> > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have the
> > big
> > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur that
> > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had
> > this
> > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better
> idea.
> > > >
> > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the
> control
> > > line
> > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> > > >
> > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I
> > > replaced
> > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if
> ever.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any ideas
> > > > Slim
> > > > Fandango
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From stevenalm at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 17:30:22 2021
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:30:22 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36a14QbbUE9=Ww15ymy0=6pZ-VE_XqZFfq2bY=b9=fB89Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANtNeFDT1-i2Xsv0a+GDcB3rVk1QSHMiyFr+bNb5p=uRi-egdg@mail.gmail.com>
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Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off the
> mussels.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel lift
> to
> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's a
> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna pass
> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just downstream
> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who knows
> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've heard
> of
> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
> "Peppie"
> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
> > Slim
> > Fandango
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed it?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the
> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will
> > end
> > > up
> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
> > > >
> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > Charles Nieman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
> "discovered"
> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is to
> > > place
> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt
> must
> > > not
> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold
> the
> > > head
> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > Graham Stewart
> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> > > > > To: Rhodes
> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday
> it
> > > was
> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not
> > > > grounded
> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with
> zebra
> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of
> The
> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these
> > little
> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is
> > our
> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than
> > usual
> > > ?
> > > > so
> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
> closer
> > to
> > > > > their habitat.
> > > > >
> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have
> the
> > > big
> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur
> that
> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has had
> > > this
> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better
> > idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the
> > control
> > > > line
> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were originally
> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I
> > > > replaced
> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if
> > ever.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
> > > > > Slim
> > > > > Fandango
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 19:18:15 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 19:18:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Swing Keel Problem
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmn_AJH5O2vTGV-bPKXhbnCHB+sT7RrCd19Abzsyv0=kUQ@mail.gmail.com>

A while after I bought (now) Radiant and hauled her with a travel lift, to
put her on jackstands to give her a new bottom, I noticed the way the
diamond keel haul line was knotted in the cockpit allowed about an extra
foot of draft. But it also introduced a hollow section of diamond board
below the keel. As a Recovering Racer I tried to figger which would be
faster up wind: more depth or less hollow turbulence with the board on it's
lines? I opted (which is easily changed) for the board in the "correct"
position.  Any thoughts?

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368
Radiant
Atlantic Highlands, NJ

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 00:52:28 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 07:52:28 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend
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Nothing better!
Chris G
Enosis

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:23 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Jesse,
> Very nice!  Sounds like a most prefect weekend! - Rob
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 10:07 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photos from sailing this weekend
>
> We had great sailing weather this weekend.  I went out sailing with my dad
> on Saturday afternoon and after grabbing dinner on land with him, I went
> back out and anchored out for the night.  A friend was anchoring out nearby
> and took a photo of Zephyr at anchor.  You can see that I used the pop top
> cover, and then draped a big mosquito net over top of the bimini which
> creates a large bug free zone.  I put on the cockpit filler planks that I
> made, pushed the cockpit cushions together and slept in the cockpit.  There
> was quite a bit of light due to the full "blue" moon.  In the morning, I
> did some single handed sailing which I hadn't done for a while.  A friend
> lives in a condo by the lake and took a few photos while I was out for the
> morning sail.  We had afternoon cruiser races on Sunday afternoon but I was
> crewing on a Capri 22 for that.  The image quality on some of the photos is
> not great since a few were taken from a distance.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Tue Aug 24 07:25:03 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 11:25:03 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmn_AJH5O2vTGV-bPKXhbnCHB+sT7RrCd19Abzsyv0=kUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmn_AJH5O2vTGV-bPKXhbnCHB+sT7RrCd19Abzsyv0=kUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Jeff,

Close hauled, I would think the extra foot of draft increases the effective aspect ratio of the keel, which makes it a more efficient hydrofoil at generating lift to go to windward.  It also lowers the center of lateral resistance (CLR) to help prevent heeling.  Together, these two factors should overcome the increased drag from the opening in the centerboard well.  Downwind, you don?t need the lift, so closing up the centerboard/well  gap decreases turbulence and drag, which should be faster.  So, in your mind, what is the ?correct? position?

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium (a 1976 model with a proper high aspect ratio centerboard)
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: Jeff Smith Photo<mailto:jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:18 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem

A while after I bought (now) Radiant and hauled her with a travel lift, to
put her on jackstands to give her a new bottom, I noticed the way the
diamond keel haul line was knotted in the cockpit allowed about an extra
foot of draft. But it also introduced a hollow section of diamond board
below the keel. As a Recovering Racer I tried to figger which would be
faster up wind: more depth or less hollow turbulence with the board on it's
lines? I opted (which is easily changed) for the board in the "correct"
position.  Any thoughts?

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net<http://www.http:/JeffSmithPhoto.Net>
732-236-1368
Radiant
Atlantic Highlands, NJ


From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 11:57:41 2021
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 11:57:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmn_AJH5O2vTGV-bPKXhbnCHB+sT7RrCd19Abzsyv0=kUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmn_AJH5O2vTGV-bPKXhbnCHB+sT7RrCd19Abzsyv0=kUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36ZqMkad=Bykp-QP2qswn=to5eoU_tP_nLMgRGqAS8V11g@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff,

Default to design.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:18 PM Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A while after I bought (now) Radiant and hauled her with a travel lift, to
> put her on jackstands to give her a new bottom, I noticed the way the
> diamond keel haul line was knotted in the cockpit allowed about an extra
> foot of draft. But it also introduced a hollow section of diamond board
> below the keel. As a Recovering Racer I tried to figger which would be
> faster up wind: more depth or less hollow turbulence with the board on it's
> lines? I opted (which is easily changed) for the board in the "correct"
> position.  Any thoughts?
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
> Radiant
> Atlantic Highlands, NJ
>

From stevenalm at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 13:45:03 2021
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:45:03 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
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Got Fandango up on the travel lift and indeed found quite a clog of zebra
mussels. We went after it with a pressure washer and got most of them off
in just a few minutes. The board moves freely now. They don't attach to the
anti-fouling paint at all but the inside walls of the trunk are not painted
or likewise much of the board itself. Most of the zebra mussels were up in
the trunk. I've only painted as much of the board as is exposed when I jack
the boat up off its trailer bunks a foot or so. I could pull the board out
and give it a full paint job but I don't know how I'd scrape and sand the
inside of the trunk, and the paint would wear off quickly anyway with the
board going up and down ? so looks like this is something I'll just have to
deal with periodically as long as I'm in mussel infested waters! But I got
some nice pics of the diamond board.
Slim
Fandango

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off the
>> mussels.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rick Lange
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel
>> lift to
>> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
>> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's a
>> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna
>> pass
>> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just
>> downstream
>> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who
>> knows
>> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've heard
>> of
>> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
>> "Peppie"
>> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
>> > Slim
>> > Fandango
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed it?
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
>> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the
>> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will
>> > end
>> > > up
>> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
>> > > >
>> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > > >
>> > > > Charles Nieman
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
>> "discovered"
>> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is
>> to
>> > > place
>> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt
>> must
>> > > not
>> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold
>> the
>> > > head
>> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Graham Stewart
>> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
>> On
>> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
>> > > > > To: Rhodes
>> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday
>> it
>> > > was
>> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not
>> > > > grounded
>> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with
>> zebra
>> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of
>> The
>> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these
>> > little
>> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is
>> > our
>> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
>> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than
>> > usual
>> > > ?
>> > > > so
>> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
>> closer
>> > to
>> > > > > their habitat.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have
>> the
>> > > big
>> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur
>> that
>> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has
>> had
>> > > this
>> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better
>> > idea.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the
>> > control
>> > > > line
>> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were
>> originally
>> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I
>> > > > replaced
>> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if
>> > ever.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
>> > > > > Slim
>> > > > > Fandango
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Wed Aug 25 22:37:20 2021
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 22:37:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
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If you ever take the cap off the centerboard housing it is worth coating the inside of the trunk and centerboard with antifouling. I did that and was surprised to see years later that the paint was still good and no zebra mussels were present. I suspect that because there is no light exposure there the paint lasts. 

Graham Stewart
Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
Kingston Ontario





-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steven Alm
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 1:45 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem

Got Fandango up on the travel lift and indeed found quite a clog of zebra
mussels. We went after it with a pressure washer and got most of them off
in just a few minutes. The board moves freely now. They don't attach to the
anti-fouling paint at all but the inside walls of the trunk are not painted
or likewise much of the board itself. Most of the zebra mussels were up in
the trunk. I've only painted as much of the board as is exposed when I jack
the boat up off its trailer bunks a foot or so. I could pull the board out
and give it a full paint job but I don't know how I'd scrape and sand the
inside of the trunk, and the paint would wear off quickly anyway with the
board going up and down ? so looks like this is something I'll just have to
deal with periodically as long as I'm in mussel infested waters! But I got
some nice pics of the diamond board.
Slim
Fandango

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off the
>> mussels.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rick Lange
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel
>> lift to
>> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
>> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's a
>> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna
>> pass
>> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just
>> downstream
>> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who
>> knows
>> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've heard
>> of
>> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
>> "Peppie"
>> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
>> > Slim
>> > Fandango
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed it?
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
>> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below the
>> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you will
>> > end
>> > > up
>> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
>> > > >
>> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > > >
>> > > > Charles Nieman
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
>> "discovered"
>> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is
>> to
>> > > place
>> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt
>> must
>> > > not
>> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold
>> the
>> > > head
>> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Graham Stewart
>> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
>> On
>> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
>> > > > > To: Rhodes
>> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time yesterday
>> it
>> > > was
>> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have not
>> > > > grounded
>> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with
>> zebra
>> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of
>> The
>> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these
>> > little
>> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This is
>> > our
>> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country, we?re
>> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than
>> > usual
>> > > ?
>> > > > so
>> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
>> closer
>> > to
>> > > > > their habitat.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have
>> the
>> > > big
>> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur
>> that
>> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has
>> had
>> > > this
>> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better
>> > idea.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the
>> > control
>> > > > line
>> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were
>> originally
>> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove. I
>> > > > replaced
>> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if
>> > ever.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
>> > > > > Slim
>> > > > > Fandango
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
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From stevenalm at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 00:32:05 2021
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:32:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
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Good to know, Graham. Thanks.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:37 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> If you ever take the cap off the centerboard housing it is worth coating
> the inside of the trunk and centerboard with antifouling. I did that and
> was surprised to see years later that the paint was still good and no zebra
> mussels were present. I suspect that because there is no light exposure
> there the paint lasts.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Steven Alm
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 1:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
>
> Got Fandango up on the travel lift and indeed found quite a clog of zebra
> mussels. We went after it with a pressure washer and got most of them off
> in just a few minutes. The board moves freely now. They don't attach to the
> anti-fouling paint at all but the inside walls of the trunk are not painted
> or likewise much of the board itself. Most of the zebra mussels were up in
> the trunk. I've only painted as much of the board as is exposed when I jack
> the boat up off its trailer bunks a foot or so. I could pull the board out
> and give it a full paint job but I don't know how I'd scrape and sand the
> inside of the trunk, and the paint would wear off quickly anyway with the
> board going up and down ? so looks like this is something I'll just have to
> deal with periodically as long as I'm in mussel infested waters! But I got
> some nice pics of the diamond board.
> Slim
> Fandango
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Stephen,
> >>
> >> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off the
> >> mussels.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rick Lange
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel
> >> lift to
> >> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
> >> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's a
> >> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna
> >> pass
> >> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just
> >> downstream
> >> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who
> >> knows
> >> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've
> heard
> >> of
> >> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
> >> "Peppie"
> >> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
> >> > Slim
> >> > Fandango
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <
> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed
> it?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
> >> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below
> the
> >> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you
> will
> >> > end
> >> > > up
> >> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Charles Nieman
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <
> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
> >> "discovered"
> >> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier is
> >> to
> >> > > place
> >> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the bolt
> >> must
> >> > > not
> >> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to hold
> >> the
> >> > > head
> >> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Graham Stewart
> >> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> >> On
> >> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> >> > > > > To: Rhodes
> >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time
> yesterday
> >> it
> >> > > was
> >> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have
> not
> >> > > > grounded
> >> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with
> >> zebra
> >> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch of
> >> The
> >> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these
> >> > little
> >> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before. This
> is
> >> > our
> >> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country,
> we?re
> >> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower than
> >> > usual
> >> > > ?
> >> > > > so
> >> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
> >> closer
> >> > to
> >> > > > > their habitat.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does have
> >> the
> >> > > big
> >> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur
> >> that
> >> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has
> >> had
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a better
> >> > idea.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the
> >> > control
> >> > > > line
> >> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were
> >> originally
> >> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to remove.
> I
> >> > > > replaced
> >> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time, if
> >> > ever.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
> >> > > > > Slim
> >> > > > > Fandango
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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From joedempsey at hughes.net  Thu Aug 26 17:23:37 2021
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:23:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Apparel
Message-ID: <00e401d79ac0$abea3410$03be9c30$@hughes.net>

ATTENTON ALL RHODIES!

 

A while back there was talk of Rhodie Wear. I have been working with a shop
that will embroider Rhodes 22 designs on hats, shirts, etc. However, the
lady will only take full payment from a single source and doesn't ship
unlike the Burgee.com shop. We will have to place a minimum order of 10
items at a time for her to produce what we want, which is not too
unreasonable. Payment will have to come to me via PayPal. The turnaround
time is pretty reasonable at one week or less plus shipping time which
should add about a week.  It ain't Amazon, but we'll have a nice cap and
shirt.  If the photos don't come through on the List email, I will resend
them as .jpg images.  There is an order form at the bottom of this email.
Just complete and send in.  Payment is by Pay Pal via a return invoice that
will be sent to you with payment instructions.  Since these will be coming
into my primary email address, please type "RHODES 22 WEAR ORDER" in the
Subject line.

 

Ball Caps:

SHOW PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP OF THE CLASSIC RHODES 22 SLOOP. THE BALL CAP IS MADE
OF COTTON FABRIC WITH ADJUSTABLE STRAP AND BUCKLE ON THE REAR.

EMBROIDERED WITH THE RHODES 22 BURGEE AND TEXT "RHODES 22".

AVAILABLE IN NAVY OR WHITE, ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
$23.00 Plus $10.00 shipping.*

ADDITIONAL TEXT ON REAR AS SHOWN:                                 ADD $12.00

 

 

   

 

 

Polo Shirts:

CHOICE OF 65/35 5 oz. POLY/COTTON  3 BUTTON CLASSIC POLO SHIRT IN NAVY OR
WHITE. 

SIZES  SMALL, MEDIUM, LARGE, X-LARGE OR XX-LARGE with RHODES 22 BURGEE LOGO
ON LEFT BREAST.  

$30.00 + SHIPPING

100% COTTON SHIRT AVAILABLE:              ADD $4.00

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ORDER VIA EMAIL: 

 

Subject: RHODES 22  WEAR

TO:           <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net> joedempsey at hughes.net  

 

 

Qty______ Ball Cap (s)  Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE)
@ $23.00 each  

 

INDICATE ADDITIONAL TEXT ON BALL CAP: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ if desired.          @
$12.00

 

 

Qty______ POLY/COTTON Polo shirt(s) Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE) Size ______
@ $30.00 each

                                                                Small,
Medium, Large, X-Large, XX-Large

 

Qty______ 100% COTTON Polo shirt(s) Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE) Size ______
@ $34.00 each

 

YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS:_________________________________________

                                                     

 

You will receive an Invoice from PayPal to complete and make payment with a
credit card.

Once payment is received by PayPal, your order will be completed and
shipped. Allow about 10 days.

 

*Shipping is estimated around $10.00 and any reduction will be refunded to
your PayPal account. (Your email address)

 

 

 

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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 20:03:25 2021
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:03:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Apparel
In-Reply-To: <00e401d79ac0$abea3410$03be9c30$@hughes.net>
References: <00e401d79ac0$abea3410$03be9c30$@hughes.net>
Message-ID: <CAPi3tBCmDBr=-RCo+9AiHtEw88Du5+KpStiLp8rErfgTnf-r7w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Joe
I would like to get cap in Navy.
Can the text and the burgee image be larger on the cap?
Thanks
Bob garrant
Sail la Vie
Kent Island MD

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 5:23 PM Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net> wrote:

> ATTENTON ALL RHODIES!
>
>
>
> A while back there was talk of Rhodie Wear. I have been working with a shop
> that will embroider Rhodes 22 designs on hats, shirts, etc. However, the
> lady will only take full payment from a single source and doesn't ship
> unlike the Burgee.com shop. We will have to place a minimum order of 10
> items at a time for her to produce what we want, which is not too
> unreasonable. Payment will have to come to me via PayPal. The turnaround
> time is pretty reasonable at one week or less plus shipping time which
> should add about a week.  It ain't Amazon, but we'll have a nice cap and
> shirt.  If the photos don't come through on the List email, I will resend
> them as .jpg images.  There is an order form at the bottom of this email.
> Just complete and send in.  Payment is by Pay Pal via a return invoice that
> will be sent to you with payment instructions.  Since these will be coming
> into my primary email address, please type "RHODES 22 WEAR ORDER" in the
> Subject line.
>
>
>
> Ball Caps:
>
> SHOW PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP OF THE CLASSIC RHODES 22 SLOOP. THE BALL CAP IS
> MADE
> OF COTTON FABRIC WITH ADJUSTABLE STRAP AND BUCKLE ON THE REAR.
>
> EMBROIDERED WITH THE RHODES 22 BURGEE AND TEXT "RHODES 22".
>
> AVAILABLE IN NAVY OR WHITE, ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
> $23.00 Plus $10.00 shipping.*
>
> ADDITIONAL TEXT ON REAR AS SHOWN:                                 ADD
> $12.00
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Polo Shirts:
>
> CHOICE OF 65/35 5 oz. POLY/COTTON  3 BUTTON CLASSIC POLO SHIRT IN NAVY OR
> WHITE.
>
> SIZES  SMALL, MEDIUM, LARGE, X-LARGE OR XX-LARGE with RHODES 22 BURGEE LOGO
> ON LEFT BREAST.
>
> $30.00 + SHIPPING
>
> 100% COTTON SHIRT AVAILABLE:              ADD $4.00
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ORDER VIA EMAIL:
>
>
>
> Subject: RHODES 22  WEAR
>
> TO:           <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net> joedempsey at hughes.net
>
>
>
>
>
> Qty______ Ball Cap (s)  Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE)
> @ $23.00 each
>
>
>
> INDICATE ADDITIONAL TEXT ON BALL CAP: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ if desired.
> @
> $12.00
>
>
>
>
>
> Qty______ POLY/COTTON Polo shirt(s) Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE) Size
> ______
> @ $30.00 each
>
>                                                                 Small,
> Medium, Large, X-Large, XX-Large
>
>
>
> Qty______ 100% COTTON Polo shirt(s) Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE) Size
> ______
> @ $34.00 each
>
>
>
> YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS:_________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> You will receive an Invoice from PayPal to complete and make payment with a
> credit card.
>
> Once payment is received by PayPal, your order will be completed and
> shipped. Allow about 10 days.
>
>
>
> *Shipping is estimated around $10.00 and any reduction will be refunded to
> your PayPal account. (Your email address)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 22:35:04 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:35:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Apparel
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3tBCmDBr=-RCo+9AiHtEw88Du5+KpStiLp8rErfgTnf-r7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPi3tBCmDBr=-RCo+9AiHtEw88Du5+KpStiLp8rErfgTnf-r7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B54AF15F-9AFB-4C1C-9DF1-1E1DCDF8C052@gmail.com>

I?m in!

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:03 PM, Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Joe
> I would like to get cap in Navy.
> Can the text and the burgee image be larger on the cap?
> Thanks
> Bob garrant
> Sail la Vie
> Kent Island MD
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 5:23 PM Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ATTENTON ALL RHODIES!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A while back there was talk of Rhodie Wear. I have been working with a shop
>> that will embroider Rhodes 22 designs on hats, shirts, etc. However, the
>> lady will only take full payment from a single source and doesn't ship
>> unlike the Burgee.com shop. We will have to place a minimum order of 10
>> items at a time for her to produce what we want, which is not too
>> unreasonable. Payment will have to come to me via PayPal. The turnaround
>> time is pretty reasonable at one week or less plus shipping time which
>> should add about a week.  It ain't Amazon, but we'll have a nice cap and
>> shirt.  If the photos don't come through on the List email, I will resend
>> them as .jpg images.  There is an order form at the bottom of this email.
>> Just complete and send in.  Payment is by Pay Pal via a return invoice that
>> will be sent to you with payment instructions.  Since these will be coming
>> into my primary email address, please type "RHODES 22 WEAR ORDER" in the
>> Subject line.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ball Caps:
>> 
>> SHOW PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP OF THE CLASSIC RHODES 22 SLOOP. THE BALL CAP IS
>> MADE
>> OF COTTON FABRIC WITH ADJUSTABLE STRAP AND BUCKLE ON THE REAR.
>> 
>> EMBROIDERED WITH THE RHODES 22 BURGEE AND TEXT "RHODES 22".
>> 
>> AVAILABLE IN NAVY OR WHITE, ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
>> $23.00 Plus $10.00 shipping.*
>> 
>> ADDITIONAL TEXT ON REAR AS SHOWN:                                 ADD
>> $12.00
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Polo Shirts:
>> 
>> CHOICE OF 65/35 5 oz. POLY/COTTON  3 BUTTON CLASSIC POLO SHIRT IN NAVY OR
>> WHITE.
>> 
>> SIZES  SMALL, MEDIUM, LARGE, X-LARGE OR XX-LARGE with RHODES 22 BURGEE LOGO
>> ON LEFT BREAST.
>> 
>> $30.00 + SHIPPING
>> 
>> 100% COTTON SHIRT AVAILABLE:              ADD $4.00
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ORDER VIA EMAIL:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: RHODES 22  WEAR
>> 
>> TO:           <mailto:joedempsey at hughes.net> joedempsey at hughes.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Qty______ Ball Cap (s)  Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE)
>> @ $23.00 each
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> INDICATE ADDITIONAL TEXT ON BALL CAP: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ if desired.
>> @
>> $12.00
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Qty______ POLY/COTTON Polo shirt(s) Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE) Size
>> ______
>> @ $30.00 each
>> 
>>                                                                Small,
>> Medium, Large, X-Large, XX-Large
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Qty______ 100% COTTON Polo shirt(s) Color ______ (NAVY OR WHITE) Size
>> ______
>> @ $34.00 each
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS:_________________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You will receive an Invoice from PayPal to complete and make payment with a
>> credit card.
>> 
>> Once payment is received by PayPal, your order will be completed and
>> shipped. Allow about 10 days.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Shipping is estimated around $10.00 and any reduction will be refunded to
>> your PayPal account. (Your email address)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From stevenalm at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 16:42:26 2021
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:42:26 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
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Graham et al, here are some shots of the diamond board out of its trunk
from when I replaced the control line several years ago before I put my
boat into the mussel-infested Mississippi. I never measured the exact width
of the trunk but I'm wondering how you painted yours. Do the skinny 6"
rollers fit? What did you use for the hinge pin slots? Thanks for any ideas.
Slim
Fandango

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:32 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good to know, Graham. Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:37 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> If you ever take the cap off the centerboard housing it is worth coating
>> the inside of the trunk and centerboard with antifouling. I did that and
>> was surprised to see years later that the paint was still good and no zebra
>> mussels were present. I suspect that because there is no light exposure
>> there the paint lasts.
>>
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf Of Steven Alm
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 1:45 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
>>
>> Got Fandango up on the travel lift and indeed found quite a clog of zebra
>> mussels. We went after it with a pressure washer and got most of them off
>> in just a few minutes. The board moves freely now. They don't attach to
>> the
>> anti-fouling paint at all but the inside walls of the trunk are not
>> painted
>> or likewise much of the board itself. Most of the zebra mussels were up in
>> the trunk. I've only painted as much of the board as is exposed when I
>> jack
>> the boat up off its trailer bunks a foot or so. I could pull the board out
>> and give it a full paint job but I don't know how I'd scrape and sand the
>> inside of the trunk, and the paint would wear off quickly anyway with the
>> board going up and down ? so looks like this is something I'll just have
>> to
>> deal with periodically as long as I'm in mussel infested waters! But I got
>> some nice pics of the diamond board.
>> Slim
>> Fandango
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Stephen,
>> >>
>> >> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off the
>> >> mussels.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Lange
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel
>> >> lift to
>> >> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
>> >> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so it's
>> a
>> >> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm gonna
>> >> pass
>> >> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just
>> >> downstream
>> >> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who
>> >> knows
>> >> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've
>> heard
>> >> of
>> >> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
>> >> "Peppie"
>> >> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
>> >> > Slim
>> >> > Fandango
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <
>> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you needed
>> it?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
>> >> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below
>> the
>> >> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you
>> will
>> >> > end
>> >> > > up
>> >> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Charles Nieman
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <
>> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
>> >> "discovered"
>> >> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier
>> is
>> >> to
>> >> > > place
>> >> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the
>> bolt
>> >> must
>> >> > > not
>> >> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to
>> hold
>> >> the
>> >> > > head
>> >> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Graham Stewart
>> >> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> ]
>> >> On
>> >> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
>> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
>> >> > > > > To: Rhodes
>> >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time
>> yesterday
>> >> it
>> >> > > was
>> >> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I have
>> not
>> >> > > > grounded
>> >> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up with
>> >> zebra
>> >> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch
>> of
>> >> The
>> >> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of these
>> >> > little
>> >> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before.
>> This is
>> >> > our
>> >> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country,
>> we?re
>> >> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower
>> than
>> >> > usual
>> >> > > ?
>> >> > > > so
>> >> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
>> >> closer
>> >> > to
>> >> > > > > their habitat.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does
>> have
>> >> the
>> >> > > big
>> >> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I incur
>> >> that
>> >> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody has
>> >> had
>> >> > > this
>> >> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a
>> better
>> >> > idea.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace the
>> >> > control
>> >> > > > line
>> >> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were
>> >> originally
>> >> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to
>> remove. I
>> >> > > > replaced
>> >> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time,
>> if
>> >> > ever.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
>> >> > > > > Slim
>> >> > > > > Fandango
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
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From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Aug 27 18:10:52 2021
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 18:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Apparel
Message-ID: <001601d79b90$70ad4b00$5207e100$@hughes.net>

Thanks Bob,

Yes, I expect it will be larger. The image shown is not actual.  The size is
limited to 2" or 2-1/4" vertically by the embroidery machine.  It will look
good.


From joedempsey at hughes.net  Fri Aug 27 18:12:38 2021
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 18:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Apparel
Message-ID: <001b01d79b90$ac904190$05b0c4b0$@hughes.net>

Great Michael,

 

I'll look for your order.


From koatimundi100 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 21:15:22 2021
From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 21:15:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] electric outboard; Rhodie Wear
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CAEZbNGAHWCnmu-2uN3ETa0hEGsxVuMvRE-Wo+VYJJ35f1NkzFw@mail.gmail.com>

Quite some time ago I queried the list Re: electric outboards, and I
received answers from Stan and Tom van Heule. There was a sputter of posts
more recently. Has anyone (other than Tom) gone ahead? My Merc BigFoot
needs work, and I?m considering selling it cheap and going electric.
          Related (sort of): at 78 I?m eager to also have a power pocket
cruiser. As an 80th birthday present to myself (an expensive one) I?ve
ordered the Swedish Candela C-8. Google it. The reviews are awesome.
           50 years ago I learned my lesson about exotic foreign vehicles
with a series of Citroen DS-21s. I hope this won?t repeat that experience.
          Rear Rhodie Wear, while I applaud the effort to make it
available, I don?t like uniforms. One burgie (bergie? birdie?) is enough
for me.



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>    1. Re: Tiller clutch (Michael McKay)
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>    3. Short season (Shawn Boles)
>    4. Re: Short season (Weiss, Robert L)
>    5. Re: Tiller clutch (THOMAS POLISE)
>    6. Re: Tiller clutch (Weiss, Robert L)
>    7. Re: Tiller clutch (stan)
>    8. Re: Tiller clutch (Jay Friedland)
>    9. At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
>   10. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
>   11. Re: At Ease in Sail (Jesse Shumaker)
>   12. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
>   13. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
>   14. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
>   15. Pop Top Slider Lock (Joe Dempsey)
>   16. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
>   17. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
>   18. Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
>   19. Re: Too few photos underway (Bob Garrant)
>   20. Re: Too few photos underway (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
>   21. Re: Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
>   22. Re: Too few photos underway (Jesse Shumaker)
>   23. There?s probably a better way... (Larry Gioia)
>   24. Re: There?s probably a better way... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No
> restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On my
> prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs
> under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and over
> the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions,
> but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as
> steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward!
> Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the
> tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> > Graham
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Jeff,
> >>
> >> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.
> >>
> >> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
> >>
> >> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> >>
> >> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> finger.
> >>
> >> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
> >>
> >> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
> >>
> >> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a
> few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
> >>
> >> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
> >>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted
> (or
> >>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> without
> >>> locking it totally down.
> >>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
> >>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the
> clutch or
> >>> the brake.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>> Jeff Smith
> >>>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >>> 732-236-1368
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
> From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID:
>         <
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Well!
> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> Message-ID:
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> Hi:
>
> Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir system
> is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
>
> Sigh,
> Shawn
> s/ v Sweet Baboo
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
> From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> Message-ID:
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>
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>
> Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky
> Lake.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> Hi:
>
> Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir system
> is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
>
> Sigh,
> Shawn
> s/ v Sweet Baboo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
> From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
> From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CH0PR07MB8378013E3BB0CA928786B06CC6F59 at CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> very quick adjustments.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > 732-236-1368
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
> From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e at generalboats.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> very quick adjustments.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Well!
> >> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> >> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Jeff Smith
> >>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >> 732-236-1368
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
> From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da
> list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace
> the tamer.
>
> Jay Friedland
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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>
> For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
> From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
>         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
> on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
> Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
>
> *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
> world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
> ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
> hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> it.*
>
> *Lee*
> *1999 Rhodes22*
> *Claytor Lake, VA*
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
> From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
>         <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=
> OBg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> the
> > > helm
> > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > > 1999
> > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > >
> > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> > boat
> > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> me
> > to
> > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> my
> > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> care.
> > > My
> > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> in
> > > the
> > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back
> in
> > > the
> > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > months
> > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> know
> > > > it.*
> > > >
> > > > *Lee*
> > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> months
> > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> is
> > an
> > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
>         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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>
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>
> Lee,
> That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Lee
> Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <
> sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
>
> Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
> on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
> Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
>
> *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
> world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
> ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
> hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> it.*
>
> *Lee*
> *1999 Rhodes22*
> *Claytor Lake, VA*
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
> From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
> Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
> From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> >
> > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing to
> > stay out of harm's way.
>
>
> Looking forward to your next posts!
>
> Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
>
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing
> to
> > > stay out of harm's way.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your next posts!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID:
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> My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
> From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
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> Great picture. Thanks for sharing
> Bob Garrant
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
> From: <bobfcohen at gmail.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID: <007401d7916e$e7a79a70$b6f6cf50$@gmail.com>
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>
> Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom
> Van Heule
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
>
> My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID:
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> Milwaukee.
> His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> for 36 years this season.
>
> This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up to
> 4ft.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID:
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> Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the docks
> on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
> that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing and
> he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
> features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
> version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee again
> over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it happens
> to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>
> > Milwaukee.
> > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> > for 36 years this season.
> >
> > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> to
> > 4ft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Tom
> > > Van Heule
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
> From: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> Message-ID: <19660B4E-391B-413D-921D-4D4FE40A4525 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> ... but this is what came to mind.
> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> before and since.
>
> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
> away with better ideas.
>
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>
> Larry
>
> ?
>
> 2014 R22 Language of Love
>
> Lake George, NY
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Larry,
>
> 2 questions:
>
>
>   1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
>   2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the
> trolling motor?s prop.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
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>
> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>
> ... but this is what came to mind.
> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> before and since.
>
> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
> away with better ideas.
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> Larry
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> ?
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> 2014 R22 Language of Love
>
> Lake George, NY
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*Peter Klappert5012 Bay State Road Palmetto, FL 34221*

From koatimundi100 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 22:18:05 2021
From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:18:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med (july/august)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
References: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CAEZbNGCDprph2nW0XM2OQcnp-oJQ6AqTkJcG9842TQ36Q43+Vw@mail.gmail.com>

Chris?really enjoyed your acct and pix of getting Enosis back in the water.
Makes me wish I enjoyed the hands-on work and problem-solving which seems
genetic with Rhodies, but alas I don?t, really. My father did, especially
with his heavier-than-water Bahamian sailing dinghy, so maybe that?s why I
don?t.

And, frankly, I enjoy it less each year I edge closer to disappearing like
Homer?s Odysseus. See Tennyson?s ?The Lotus Eaters?:

?We have had enough of action, and of motion we,/Rolled to starboard,
rolled to larboard, when the surge was seething free,/ Where the wallowing
monster spouted his foam mountains in the sea?.// Surely, surely, slumber
is more sweet than toil, the shore / Than labor in deep mid-ocean, wind and
wave and oar; / O rest ye brother Mariners, we will not wander more.?

I don?t agree, by any means, but I recognize the longing.

Watch out for that Cyclops: he?s nearsighted and stupid, but he?s very
hungry.

P



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>    1. Re: Tiller clutch (Michael McKay)
>    2. Tiller clutch (Jeff Smith Photo)
>    3. Short season (Shawn Boles)
>    4. Re: Short season (Weiss, Robert L)
>    5. Re: Tiller clutch (THOMAS POLISE)
>    6. Re: Tiller clutch (Weiss, Robert L)
>    7. Re: Tiller clutch (stan)
>    8. Re: Tiller clutch (Jay Friedland)
>    9. At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
>   10. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
>   11. Re: At Ease in Sail (Jesse Shumaker)
>   12. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
>   13. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
>   14. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
>   15. Pop Top Slider Lock (Joe Dempsey)
>   16. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
>   17. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
>   18. Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
>   19. Re: Too few photos underway (Bob Garrant)
>   20. Re: Too few photos underway (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
>   21. Re: Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
>   22. Re: Too few photos underway (Jesse Shumaker)
>   23. There?s probably a better way... (Larry Gioia)
>   24. Re: There?s probably a better way... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B at gmail.com>
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> I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No
> restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On my
> prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs
> under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and over
> the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions,
> but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as
> steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward!
> Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the
> tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> > Graham
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Jeff,
> >>
> >> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight course.
> >>
> >> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed scenario:
> >>
> >> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> >>
> >> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> finger.
> >>
> >> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
> >>
> >> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
> >>
> >> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a
> few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
> >>
> >> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied Forespar
> >>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted
> (or
> >>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> without
> >>> locking it totally down.
> >>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain chairs.
> >>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the
> clutch or
> >>> the brake.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>> Jeff Smith
> >>>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >>> 732-236-1368
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
> From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
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>
> Well!
> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the tamer?
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
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> Hi:
>
> Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir system
> is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
>
> Sigh,
> Shawn
> s/ v Sweet Baboo
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
> From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
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> Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky
> Lake.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> Hi:
>
> Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir system
> is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
>
> Sigh,
> Shawn
> s/ v Sweet Baboo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
> From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
> From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
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> I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> very quick adjustments.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
> Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > 732-236-1368
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
> From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e at generalboats.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> very quick adjustments.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Well!
> >> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> >> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Jeff Smith
> >>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >> 732-236-1368
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
> From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da
> list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace
> the tamer.
>
> Jay Friedland
>
> > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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>
> For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
> From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
>         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
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>
> Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
> on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
> Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
>
> *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
> world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
> ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
> hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> it.*
>
> *Lee*
> *1999 Rhodes22*
> *Claytor Lake, VA*
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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>
> Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
> From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> OBg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> the
> > > helm
> > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > > 1999
> > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > >
> > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> > boat
> > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> me
> > to
> > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> my
> > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> care.
> > > My
> > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> in
> > > the
> > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back
> in
> > > the
> > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > months
> > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> know
> > > > it.*
> > > >
> > > > *Lee*
> > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> months
> > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> is
> > an
> > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
>         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
>         <
> DM6PR05MB6985B81FC39C76B44A65EC3DC1F79 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Lee,
> That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Lee
> Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <
> sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
>
> Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the helm
> on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new 1999
> Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
>
> *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.  My
> world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in the
> ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in the
> hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> it.*
>
> *Lee*
> *1999 Rhodes22*
> *Claytor Lake, VA*
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
> From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
> Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
> From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAPgvAEm_GXe3O+8PhAtLJAKq9FZhbwNeYPXyLJrQur-zaFPwgQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> >
> > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing to
> > stay out of harm's way.
>
>
> Looking forward to your next posts!
>
> Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
>
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> Message-ID:
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> uNpg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing
> to
> > > stay out of harm's way.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your next posts!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID:
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>
> My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
> From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
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> Great picture. Thanks for sharing
> Bob Garrant
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
> From: <bobfcohen at gmail.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID: <007401d7916e$e7a79a70$b6f6cf50$@gmail.com>
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>
> Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom
> Van Heule
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
>
> My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID:
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> Milwaukee.
> His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> for 36 years this season.
>
> This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up to
> 4ft.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> Message-ID:
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> Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the docks
> on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
> that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing and
> he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
> features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
> version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee again
> over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it happens
> to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>
> > Milwaukee.
> > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> > for 36 years this season.
> >
> > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> to
> > 4ft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Tom
> > > Van Heule
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
> From: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> Message-ID: <19660B4E-391B-413D-921D-4D4FE40A4525 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> ... but this is what came to mind.
> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> before and since.
>
> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
> away with better ideas.
>
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>
> Larry
>
> ?
>
> 2014 R22 Language of Love
>
> Lake George, NY
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> Message-ID:
>         <
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>
> Larry,
>
> 2 questions:
>
>
>   1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
>   2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear the
> trolling motor?s prop.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>
> From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
>
> ... but this is what came to mind.
> My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> before and since.
>
> I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap the
> 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached. Fire
> away with better ideas.
>
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>
> Larry
>
> ?
>
> 2014 R22 Language of Love
>
> Lake George, NY
>
>
>
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>
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 23:01:50 -0500
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Just dunk a gloved hand in there and fingerprint. Unless you like rinsing
off with spirits...

Weenie roller also will fit. But youd end up finger painting a little
anyways.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021, 4:43 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Graham et al, here are some shots of the diamond board out of its trunk
> from when I replaced the control line several years ago before I put my
> boat into the mussel-infested Mississippi. I never measured the exact width
> of the trunk but I'm wondering how you painted yours. Do the skinny 6"
> rollers fit? What did you use for the hinge pin slots? Thanks for any
> ideas.
> Slim
> Fandango
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:32 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good to know, Graham. Thanks.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:37 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If you ever take the cap off the centerboard housing it is worth coating
> >> the inside of the trunk and centerboard with antifouling. I did that and
> >> was surprised to see years later that the paint was still good and no
> zebra
> >> mussels were present. I suspect that because there is no light exposure
> >> there the paint lasts.
> >>
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> >> Kingston Ontario
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Steven Alm
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 1:45 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> >>
> >> Got Fandango up on the travel lift and indeed found quite a clog of
> zebra
> >> mussels. We went after it with a pressure washer and got most of them
> off
> >> in just a few minutes. The board moves freely now. They don't attach to
> >> the
> >> anti-fouling paint at all but the inside walls of the trunk are not
> >> painted
> >> or likewise much of the board itself. Most of the zebra mussels were up
> in
> >> the trunk. I've only painted as much of the board as is exposed when I
> >> jack
> >> the boat up off its trailer bunks a foot or so. I could pull the board
> out
> >> and give it a full paint job but I don't know how I'd scrape and sand
> the
> >> inside of the trunk, and the paint would wear off quickly anyway with
> the
> >> board going up and down ? so looks like this is something I'll just have
> >> to
> >> deal with periodically as long as I'm in mussel infested waters! But I
> got
> >> some nice pics of the diamond board.
> >> Slim
> >> Fandango
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Stephen,
> >> >>
> >> >> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off
> the
> >> >> mussels.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Lange
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel
> >> >> lift to
> >> >> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
> >> >> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so
> it's
> >> a
> >> >> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm
> gonna
> >> >> pass
> >> >> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just
> >> >> downstream
> >> >> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who
> >> >> knows
> >> >> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've
> >> heard
> >> >> of
> >> >> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
> >> >> "Peppie"
> >> >> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
> >> >> > Slim
> >> >> > Fandango
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <
> >> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you
> needed
> >> it?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
> >> >> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below
> >> the
> >> >> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you
> >> will
> >> >> > end
> >> >> > > up
> >> >> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Charles Nieman
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <
> >> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
> >> >> "discovered"
> >> >> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier
> >> is
> >> >> to
> >> >> > > place
> >> >> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the
> >> bolt
> >> >> must
> >> >> > > not
> >> >> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to
> >> hold
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > head
> >> >> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Graham Stewart
> >> >> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> ]
> >> >> On
> >> >> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
> >> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> >> >> > > > > To: Rhodes
> >> >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time
> >> yesterday
> >> >> it
> >> >> > > was
> >> >> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I
> have
> >> not
> >> >> > > > grounded
> >> >> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up
> with
> >> >> zebra
> >> >> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch
> >> of
> >> >> The
> >> >> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of
> these
> >> >> > little
> >> >> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before.
> >> This is
> >> >> > our
> >> >> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country,
> >> we?re
> >> >> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower
> >> than
> >> >> > usual
> >> >> > > ?
> >> >> > > > so
> >> >> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
> >> >> closer
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > > > > their habitat.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does
> >> have
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > big
> >> >> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I
> incur
> >> >> that
> >> >> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody
> has
> >> >> had
> >> >> > > this
> >> >> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a
> >> better
> >> >> > idea.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace
> the
> >> >> > control
> >> >> > > > line
> >> >> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were
> >> >> originally
> >> >> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to
> >> remove. I
> >> >> > > > replaced
> >> >> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time,
> >> if
> >> >> > ever.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
> >> >> > > > > Slim
> >> >> > > > > Fandango
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
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From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sat Aug 28 00:04:15 2021
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 23:04:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] electric outboard; Rhodie Wear
In-Reply-To: <CAEZbNGAHWCnmu-2uN3ETa0hEGsxVuMvRE-Wo+VYJJ35f1NkzFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
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I'm not electric yet.  Remind me in 2 years, supply chain and inflation....

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021, 9:15 PM peter klappert <koatimundi100 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Quite some time ago I queried the list Re: electric outboards, and I
> received answers from Stan and Tom van Heule. There was a sputter of posts
> more recently. Has anyone (other than Tom) gone ahead? My Merc BigFoot
> needs work, and I?m considering selling it cheap and going electric.
>           Related (sort of): at 78 I?m eager to also have a power pocket
> cruiser. As an 80th birthday present to myself (an expensive one) I?ve
> ordered the Swedish Candela C-8. Google it. The reviews are awesome.
>            50 years ago I learned my lesson about exotic foreign vehicles
> with a series of Citroen DS-21s. I hope this won?t repeat that experience.
>           Rear Rhodie Wear, while I applaud the effort to make it
> available, I don?t like uniforms. One burgie (bergie? birdie?) is enough
> for me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 6:57 AM <rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to
> >         rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> >
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> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Tiller clutch (Michael McKay)
> >    2. Tiller clutch (Jeff Smith Photo)
> >    3. Short season (Shawn Boles)
> >    4. Re: Short season (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    5. Re: Tiller clutch (THOMAS POLISE)
> >    6. Re: Tiller clutch (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    7. Re: Tiller clutch (stan)
> >    8. Re: Tiller clutch (Jay Friedland)
> >    9. At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   10. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   11. Re: At Ease in Sail (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   12. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   13. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   14. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   15. Pop Top Slider Lock (Joe Dempsey)
> >   16. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   17. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   18. Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   19. Re: Too few photos underway (Bob Garrant)
> >   20. Re: Too few photos underway (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
> >   21. Re: Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   22. Re: Too few photos underway (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   23. There?s probably a better way... (Larry Gioia)
> >   24. Re: There?s probably a better way... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
> > From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No
> > restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On
> my
> > prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well.
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs
> > under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and
> over
> > the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions,
> > but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as
> > steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward!
> > Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the
> > tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> > > Graham
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Jeff,
> > >>
> > >> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> > awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight
> course.
> > >>
> > >> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed
> scenario:
> > >>
> > >> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> > >>
> > >> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> > finger.
> > >>
> > >> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
> > >>
> > >> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
> > >>
> > >> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a
> > few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
> > >>
> > >> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
> > >>
> > >> Michael McKay
> > >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> > jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied
> Forespar
> > >>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted
> > (or
> > >>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> > without
> > >>> locking it totally down.
> > >>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain
> chairs.
> > >>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the
> > clutch or
> > >>> the brake.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best Regards
> > >>> Jeff Smith
> > >>>
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >>> 732-236-1368
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
> > From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
> > From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAMzGxuPti_vwyoEF975KojueNB2QNXgqdv1w3_-mgA0FnyZCBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> CH0PR07MB837847D5568616DAAF31E2AAC6F59 at CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky
> > Lake.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
> > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> CH0PR07MB8378013E3BB0CA928786B06CC6F59 at CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > >
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
> > From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e at generalboats.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> > >
> > >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Well!
> > >> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > >> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Jeff Smith
> > >>
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >> 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
> > From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da
> > list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace
> > the tamer.
> >
> > Jay Friedland
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> DM6PR05MB69852C86B02D6FFE6A8CF56AC1F69 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=
> > Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPgvAE=FQC0j_Y0=TLRf8m=
> > r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> the
> > > helm
> > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > > 1999
> > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > >
> > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> > boat
> > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> me
> > to
> > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> my
> > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> care.
> > > My
> > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> in
> > > the
> > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back
> in
> > > the
> > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > months
> > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> know
> > > > it.*
> > > >
> > > > *Lee*
> > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> months
> > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> is
> > an
> > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=
> > OBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than
> later.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > > S/V Zephyr
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> > the
> > > > helm
> > > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my
> new
> > > > 1999
> > > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off
> the
> > > boat
> > > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> > me
> > > to
> > > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> > my
> > > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> > care.
> > > > My
> > > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was
> back
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > > months
> > > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> > know
> > > > > it.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *Lee*
> > > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> > months
> > > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> DM6PR05MB6985B81FC39C76B44A65EC3DC1F79 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Lee,
> > That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Lee
> > Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <
> > sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
> > From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
> > Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEm_GXe3O+8PhAtLJAKq9FZhbwNeYPXyLJrQur-zaFPwgQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing
> to
> > > stay out of harm's way.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your next posts!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV9xgVb-N32BTODj2VeWf=2qoBR7NjFEB4L-1-F5=
> > uNpg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the
> record-breaking
> > > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are
> managing
> > to
> > > > stay out of harm's way.
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your next posts!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAEqJHY5nLWt_wFEbsh0bL+YP237d_=
> > UmkBGZTiah3J1h3ve4jg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
> > From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPi3tBCVBw=V9kZb-e+=
> > q1WdVUuOLo7bKu7CmbLg+a0rk-5fMg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Great picture. Thanks for sharing
> > Bob Garrant
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210814/19f55ac9/attachment.jpg
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
> > From: <bobfcohen at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID: <007401d7916e$e7a79a70$b6f6cf50$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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> > URL: <
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210814/19f55ac9/attachment.jpg
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAEqJHY6oxk4r2dzQJy4h9Y2DK5ROHDFKJWO+MVf1WdpwRSdCYg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Milwaukee.
> > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> > for 36 years this season.
> >
> > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> to
> > 4ft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Tom
> > > Van Heule
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fp=
> > w09LwqK0g+BeW2k3sEG3j1tLMeVtCfLMBVqL+-rDJA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the
> docks
> > on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
> > that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing
> and
> > he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
> > features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
> > version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee
> again
> > over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it
> happens
> > to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Milwaukee.
> > > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from
> McKinley
> > > for 36 years this season.
> > >
> > > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> > to
> > > 4ft.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of
> > > Tom
> > > > Van Heule
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > > >
> > > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
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> >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
> > From: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID: <19660B4E-391B-413D-921D-4D4FE40A4525 at yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
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> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
> > From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > To: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> CH2PR02MB692031F0CBD24F39CC0C8FB480FF9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > 2 questions:
> >
> >
> >   1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> >   2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> > lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> > thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear
> the
> > trolling motor?s prop.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >
> > From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> > Desc: not available
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> >
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> > >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rhodes22-list mailing list
> > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4372, Issue 1
> > **********************************************
> >
> --
> *>>>>>>>>>  *[image: Sailboat on Messenger]*<<<<<<<<<*
>
> *Peter Klappert5012 Bay State Road Palmetto, FL 34221*
>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sat Aug 28 00:45:11 2021
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 00:45:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
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I used a foam roller with a long handel.

Graham Stewart
Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
Kingston Ontario







-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Tom Van Heule
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 12:02 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem

Just dunk a gloved hand in there and fingerprint. Unless you like rinsing
off with spirits...

Weenie roller also will fit. But youd end up finger painting a little
anyways.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021, 4:43 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Graham et al, here are some shots of the diamond board out of its trunk
> from when I replaced the control line several years ago before I put my
> boat into the mussel-infested Mississippi. I never measured the exact width
> of the trunk but I'm wondering how you painted yours. Do the skinny 6"
> rollers fit? What did you use for the hinge pin slots? Thanks for any
> ideas.
> Slim
> Fandango
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:32 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good to know, Graham. Thanks.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:37 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If you ever take the cap off the centerboard housing it is worth coating
> >> the inside of the trunk and centerboard with antifouling. I did that and
> >> was surprised to see years later that the paint was still good and no
> zebra
> >> mussels were present. I suspect that because there is no light exposure
> >> there the paint lasts.
> >>
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> >> Kingston Ontario
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Steven Alm
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 1:45 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> >>
> >> Got Fandango up on the travel lift and indeed found quite a clog of
> zebra
> >> mussels. We went after it with a pressure washer and got most of them
> off
> >> in just a few minutes. The board moves freely now. They don't attach to
> >> the
> >> anti-fouling paint at all but the inside walls of the trunk are not
> >> painted
> >> or likewise much of the board itself. Most of the zebra mussels were up
> in
> >> the trunk. I've only painted as much of the board as is exposed when I
> >> jack
> >> the boat up off its trailer bunks a foot or so. I could pull the board
> out
> >> and give it a full paint job but I don't know how I'd scrape and sand
> the
> >> inside of the trunk, and the paint would wear off quickly anyway with
> the
> >> board going up and down ? so looks like this is something I'll just have
> >> to
> >> deal with periodically as long as I'm in mussel infested waters! But I
> got
> >> some nice pics of the diamond board.
> >> Slim
> >> Fandango
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Rick, yeah, did that a lot and it did help some.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Stephen,
> >> >>
> >> >> You could just pull the board up and down a few times to scrape off
> the
> >> >> mussels.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Lange
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:40 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I got a quote from my marina to hoist the boat up with their travel
> >> >> lift to
> >> >> > inspect and scrape off the zebra mussels. He agreed that was almost
> >> >> > certainly my problem. I don't need to drop the mast for this so
> it's
> >> a
> >> >> > fairly simple matter. As for swimming in the Mississippi ? I'm
> gonna
> >> >> pass
> >> >> > on that. Here in the heart of ag country as well as being just
> >> >> downstream
> >> >> > from Minneapolis/S. Paul, there's any amount of toxic waste and who
> >> >> knows
> >> >> > what else flowing down the river. Not only that but I know you've
> >> heard
> >> >> of
> >> >> > "Nessie" lurking in Loch Ness ? here in Lake Pepin, many-a-tale of
> >> >> "Peppie"
> >> >> > have circulated for years. I'd stay out of the water if I were you!
> >> >> > Slim
> >> >> > Fandango
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:35 AM David Talbot <
> >> talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > As they say, experience is something you get just after you
> needed
> >> it?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Charles Nieman <
> >> >> > > blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > A word to the wise ?. The top of the centerboard cover is below
> >> the
> >> >> > > > waterline. If one tries to remove the cover while on water, you
> >> will
> >> >> > end
> >> >> > > up
> >> >> > > > testing the positive flotation system.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Don?t ask me how I know
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Charles Nieman
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Graham Stewart <
> >> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > ?This might be completely obvious to everyone else but I
> >> >> "discovered"
> >> >> > > > that the best way to make centerboard cover bolt removal easier
> >> is
> >> >> to
> >> >> > > place
> >> >> > > > them with the head down and the nut on the top. Obviously the
> >> bolt
> >> >> must
> >> >> > > not
> >> >> > > > be so long as to tough the floor boards. It is much easier to
> >> hold
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > head
> >> >> > > > with a box wrench and remove the nut with a impact driver.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Graham Stewart
> >> >> > > > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> ]
> >> >> On
> >> >> > > > Behalf Of Steven Alm
> >> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:42 AM
> >> >> > > > > To: Rhodes
> >> >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Swing Keel Problem
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I have the diamond board on my 1990. For the first time
> >> yesterday
> >> >> it
> >> >> > > was
> >> >> > > > > not operating smoothly like it always has for 25 years. I
> have
> >> not
> >> >> > > > grounded
> >> >> > > > > or anything. I suspect the board and trunk are clogged up
> with
> >> >> zebra
> >> >> > > > > mussels. I?m slipped in Lake Pepin, which is really a stretch
> >> of
> >> >> The
> >> >> > > > > Mississippi River and yes, there?s a major infestation of
> these
> >> >> > little
> >> >> > > > > bastards on the river but I?ve not had this happen before.
> >> This is
> >> >> > our
> >> >> > > > > third season at this location and like a lot of the country,
> >> we?re
> >> >> > > > > experiencing drought conditions and the river is much lower
> >> than
> >> >> > usual
> >> >> > > ?
> >> >> > > > so
> >> >> > > > > maybe being that much closer to the bottom at my slip puts me
> >> >> closer
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > > > > their habitat.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > But this is all an assumption at this point. My marina does
> >> have
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > big
> >> >> > > > > sling lift and we could inspect it that way, but before I
> incur
> >> >> that
> >> >> > > > > expense I thought I?d run it by y?all first in case anybody
> has
> >> >> had
> >> >> > > this
> >> >> > > > > happen ? maybe it?s something else or maybe someone has a
> >> better
> >> >> > idea.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I have removed the board from the inside before to replace
> the
> >> >> > control
> >> >> > > > line
> >> >> > > > > but it?s a real chore that I?d love to avoid if possible.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Note: the 50 or so bolts around the centerboard cap were
> >> >> originally
> >> >> > > > > Phillips heads and each and every one was a struggle to
> >> remove. I
> >> >> > > > replaced
> >> >> > > > > them with hex heads so it won?t be near as bad the next time,
> >> if
> >> >> > ever.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Thanks for any ideas
> >> >> > > > > Slim
> >> >> > > > > Fandango
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 03:58:49 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:58:49 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med (july/august)
In-Reply-To: <CAEZbNGCDprph2nW0XM2OQcnp-oJQ6AqTkJcG9842TQ36Q43+Vw@mail.gmail.com>
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My wife is, how shall I say, becoming more poetic in a Tennyson sort of
vein.
Chris Geankoplis
Enosis

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 5:18 AM peter klappert <koatimundi100 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Chris?really enjoyed your acct and pix of getting Enosis back in the water.
> Makes me wish I enjoyed the hands-on work and problem-solving which seems
> genetic with Rhodies, but alas I don?t, really. My father did, especially
> with his heavier-than-water Bahamian sailing dinghy, so maybe that?s why I
> don?t.
>
> And, frankly, I enjoy it less each year I edge closer to disappearing like
> Homer?s Odysseus. See Tennyson?s ?The Lotus Eaters?:
>
> ?We have had enough of action, and of motion we,/Rolled to starboard,
> rolled to larboard, when the surge was seething free,/ Where the wallowing
> monster spouted his foam mountains in the sea?.// Surely, surely, slumber
> is more sweet than toil, the shore / Than labor in deep mid-ocean, wind and
> wave and oar; / O rest ye brother Mariners, we will not wander more.?
>
> I don?t agree, by any means, but I recognize the longing.
>
> Watch out for that Cyclops: he?s nearsighted and stupid, but he?s very
> hungry.
>
> P
>
>
>
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Tiller clutch (Michael McKay)
> >    2. Tiller clutch (Jeff Smith Photo)
> >    3. Short season (Shawn Boles)
> >    4. Re: Short season (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    5. Re: Tiller clutch (THOMAS POLISE)
> >    6. Re: Tiller clutch (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    7. Re: Tiller clutch (stan)
> >    8. Re: Tiller clutch (Jay Friedland)
> >    9. At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   10. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   11. Re: At Ease in Sail (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   12. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   13. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   14. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   15. Pop Top Slider Lock (Joe Dempsey)
> >   16. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   17. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   18. Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   19. Re: Too few photos underway (Bob Garrant)
> >   20. Re: Too few photos underway (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
> >   21. Re: Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   22. Re: Too few photos underway (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   23. There?s probably a better way... (Larry Gioia)
> >   24. Re: There?s probably a better way... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
> > From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No
> > restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On
> my
> > prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well.
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs
> > under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and
> over
> > the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions,
> > but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as
> > steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward!
> > Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the
> > tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> > > Graham
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Jeff,
> > >>
> > >> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> > awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight
> course.
> > >>
> > >> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed
> scenario:
> > >>
> > >> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> > >>
> > >> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> > finger.
> > >>
> > >> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
> > >>
> > >> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
> > >>
> > >> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a
> > few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
> > >>
> > >> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
> > >>
> > >> Michael McKay
> > >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> > jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied
> Forespar
> > >>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted
> > (or
> > >>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> > without
> > >>> locking it totally down.
> > >>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain
> chairs.
> > >>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the
> > clutch or
> > >>> the brake.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best Regards
> > >>> Jeff Smith
> > >>>
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >>> 732-236-1368
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
> > From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
> > From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAMzGxuPti_vwyoEF975KojueNB2QNXgqdv1w3_-mgA0FnyZCBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky
> > Lake.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
> > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > >
> >
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> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
> > From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e at generalboats.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> > >
> > >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Well!
> > >> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > >> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Jeff Smith
> > >>
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >> 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
> > From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da
> > list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace
> > the tamer.
> >
> > Jay Friedland
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=
> > Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPgvAE=FQC0j_Y0=TLRf8m=
> > r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> the
> > > helm
> > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > > 1999
> > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > >
> > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> > boat
> > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> me
> > to
> > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> my
> > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> care.
> > > My
> > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> in
> > > the
> > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back
> in
> > > the
> > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > months
> > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> know
> > > > it.*
> > > >
> > > > *Lee*
> > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> months
> > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> is
> > an
> > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=
> > OBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than
> later.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > > S/V Zephyr
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> > the
> > > > helm
> > > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my
> new
> > > > 1999
> > > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off
> the
> > > boat
> > > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> > me
> > > to
> > > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> > my
> > > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> > care.
> > > > My
> > > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was
> back
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > > months
> > > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> > know
> > > > > it.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *Lee*
> > > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> > months
> > > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> DM6PR05MB6985B81FC39C76B44A65EC3DC1F79 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Lee,
> > That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Lee
> > Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <
> > sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
> > From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
> > Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEm_GXe3O+8PhAtLJAKq9FZhbwNeYPXyLJrQur-zaFPwgQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing
> to
> > > stay out of harm's way.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your next posts!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV9xgVb-N32BTODj2VeWf=2qoBR7NjFEB4L-1-F5=
> > uNpg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the
> record-breaking
> > > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are
> managing
> > to
> > > > stay out of harm's way.
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your next posts!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAEqJHY5nLWt_wFEbsh0bL+YP237d_=
> > UmkBGZTiah3J1h3ve4jg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
> > From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPi3tBCVBw=V9kZb-e+=
> > q1WdVUuOLo7bKu7CmbLg+a0rk-5fMg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Great picture. Thanks for sharing
> > Bob Garrant
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
> > From: <bobfcohen at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID: <007401d7916e$e7a79a70$b6f6cf50$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAEqJHY6oxk4r2dzQJy4h9Y2DK5ROHDFKJWO+MVf1WdpwRSdCYg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Milwaukee.
> > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> > for 36 years this season.
> >
> > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> to
> > 4ft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Tom
> > > Van Heule
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fp=
> > w09LwqK0g+BeW2k3sEG3j1tLMeVtCfLMBVqL+-rDJA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the
> docks
> > on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
> > that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing
> and
> > he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
> > features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
> > version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee
> again
> > over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it
> happens
> > to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Milwaukee.
> > > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from
> McKinley
> > > for 36 years this season.
> > >
> > > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> > to
> > > 4ft.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of
> > > Tom
> > > > Van Heule
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > > >
> > > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
> > From: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID: <19660B4E-391B-413D-921D-4D4FE40A4525 at yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
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> > >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
> > From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > To: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> CH2PR02MB692031F0CBD24F39CC0C8FB480FF9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > 2 questions:
> >
> >
> >   1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> >   2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> > lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> > thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear
> the
> > trolling motor?s prop.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >
> > From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> > Name: image0.jpeg
> > Type: image/jpeg
> > Size: 805352 bytes
> > Desc: not available
> > URL: <
> >
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> > >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rhodes22-list mailing list
> > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4372, Issue 1
> > **********************************************
> >
> --
> *>>>>>>>>>  *[image: Sailboat on Messenger]*<<<<<<<<<*
>
> *Peter Klappert5012 Bay State Road Palmetto, FL 34221*
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 04:02:41 2021
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:02:41 +0300
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] electric outboard; Rhodie Wear
In-Reply-To: <CAEZbNGAHWCnmu-2uN3ETa0hEGsxVuMvRE-Wo+VYJJ35f1NkzFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
 <CAEZbNGAHWCnmu-2uN3ETa0hEGsxVuMvRE-Wo+VYJJ35f1NkzFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiV-oH-HqGCf=d5trJHGP+66oxjyUWakAkEz3_c8RsV9rw@mail.gmail.com>

Cotroen DS21? I?ll stick with my Tohatsu duex chevoux (sp).
Chris

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 4:15 AM peter klappert <koatimundi100 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Quite some time ago I queried the list Re: electric outboards, and I
> received answers from Stan and Tom van Heule. There was a sputter of posts
> more recently. Has anyone (other than Tom) gone ahead? My Merc BigFoot
> needs work, and I?m considering selling it cheap and going electric.
>           Related (sort of): at 78 I?m eager to also have a power pocket
> cruiser. As an 80th birthday present to myself (an expensive one) I?ve
> ordered the Swedish Candela C-8. Google it. The reviews are awesome.
>            50 years ago I learned my lesson about exotic foreign vehicles
> with a series of Citroen DS-21s. I hope this won?t repeat that experience.
>           Rear Rhodie Wear, while I applaud the effort to make it
> available, I don?t like uniforms. One burgie (bergie? birdie?) is enough
> for me.
>
>
>
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Tiller clutch (Michael McKay)
> >    2. Tiller clutch (Jeff Smith Photo)
> >    3. Short season (Shawn Boles)
> >    4. Re: Short season (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    5. Re: Tiller clutch (THOMAS POLISE)
> >    6. Re: Tiller clutch (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    7. Re: Tiller clutch (stan)
> >    8. Re: Tiller clutch (Jay Friedland)
> >    9. At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   10. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   11. Re: At Ease in Sail (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   12. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   13. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   14. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   15. Pop Top Slider Lock (Joe Dempsey)
> >   16. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   17. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   18. Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   19. Re: Too few photos underway (Bob Garrant)
> >   20. Re: Too few photos underway (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
> >   21. Re: Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   22. Re: Too few photos underway (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   23. There?s probably a better way... (Larry Gioia)
> >   24. Re: There?s probably a better way... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
> > From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No
> > restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On
> my
> > prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well.
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs
> > under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and
> over
> > the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions,
> > but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as
> > steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward!
> > Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the
> > tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> > > Graham
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Jeff,
> > >>
> > >> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> > awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight
> course.
> > >>
> > >> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed
> scenario:
> > >>
> > >> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> > >>
> > >> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> > finger.
> > >>
> > >> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
> > >>
> > >> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
> > >>
> > >> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a
> > few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
> > >>
> > >> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
> > >>
> > >> Michael McKay
> > >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> > jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied
> Forespar
> > >>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted
> > (or
> > >>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> > without
> > >>> locking it totally down.
> > >>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain
> chairs.
> > >>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the
> > clutch or
> > >>> the brake.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best Regards
> > >>> Jeff Smith
> > >>>
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C613c02ec63244953035908d9593d42a5%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637638941923274927%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=%2BjXJ%2BgqJjwlT544GiqaGyY1hLAhnjb9cw93UZEvh02M%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >>> 732-236-1368
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
> > From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAM0HAmkhNFFT8qEJZCBkf5JmYy46AD_pC_fT6gYnd0fLhzUoLA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
> > From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAMzGxuPti_vwyoEF975KojueNB2QNXgqdv1w3_-mgA0FnyZCBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky
> > Lake.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
> > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > >
> >
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> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
> > From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e at generalboats.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> > >
> > >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Well!
> > >> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > >> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Jeff Smith
> > >>
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.http%2F%2FJeffSmithPhoto.Net&amp;data=04%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C13d97761544c4cd9e68b08d95a054f95%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637639801174403719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z7AefOb8Cw8627Xr4jzOtXNBta8qh%2FdHvV2g8iMJHg0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >> 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
> > From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da
> > list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace
> > the tamer.
> >
> > Jay Friedland
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=
> > Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPgvAE=FQC0j_Y0=TLRf8m=
> > r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> the
> > > helm
> > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > > 1999
> > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > >
> > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> > boat
> > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> me
> > to
> > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> my
> > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> care.
> > > My
> > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> in
> > > the
> > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back
> in
> > > the
> > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > months
> > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> know
> > > > it.*
> > > >
> > > > *Lee*
> > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> months
> > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> is
> > an
> > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=
> > OBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than
> later.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > > S/V Zephyr
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> > the
> > > > helm
> > > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my
> new
> > > > 1999
> > > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off
> the
> > > boat
> > > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> > me
> > > to
> > > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> > my
> > > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> > care.
> > > > My
> > > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was
> back
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > > months
> > > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> > know
> > > > > it.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *Lee*
> > > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> > months
> > > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> DM6PR05MB6985B81FC39C76B44A65EC3DC1F79 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Lee,
> > That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Lee
> > Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <
> > sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
> > From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
> > Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEm_GXe3O+8PhAtLJAKq9FZhbwNeYPXyLJrQur-zaFPwgQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing
> to
> > > stay out of harm's way.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your next posts!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV9xgVb-N32BTODj2VeWf=2qoBR7NjFEB4L-1-F5=
> > uNpg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the
> record-breaking
> > > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are
> managing
> > to
> > > > stay out of harm's way.
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your next posts!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAEqJHY5nLWt_wFEbsh0bL+YP237d_=
> > UmkBGZTiah3J1h3ve4jg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
> > From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPi3tBCVBw=V9kZb-e+=
> > q1WdVUuOLo7bKu7CmbLg+a0rk-5fMg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Great picture. Thanks for sharing
> > Bob Garrant
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210814/19f55ac9/attachment.jpg
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
> > From: <bobfcohen at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID: <007401d7916e$e7a79a70$b6f6cf50$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAEqJHY6oxk4r2dzQJy4h9Y2DK5ROHDFKJWO+MVf1WdpwRSdCYg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Milwaukee.
> > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> > for 36 years this season.
> >
> > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> to
> > 4ft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Tom
> > > Van Heule
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fp=
> > w09LwqK0g+BeW2k3sEG3j1tLMeVtCfLMBVqL+-rDJA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the
> docks
> > on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
> > that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing
> and
> > he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
> > features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
> > version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee
> again
> > over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it
> happens
> > to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Milwaukee.
> > > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from
> McKinley
> > > for 36 years this season.
> > >
> > > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> > to
> > > 4ft.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of
> > > Tom
> > > > Van Heule
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > > >
> > > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
> > From: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID: <19660B4E-391B-413D-921D-4D4FE40A4525 at yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
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> > >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
> > From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > To: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> CH2PR02MB692031F0CBD24F39CC0C8FB480FF9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > 2 questions:
> >
> >
> >   1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> >   2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> > lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> > thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear
> the
> > trolling motor?s prop.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >
> > From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> > Name: image0.jpeg
> > Type: image/jpeg
> > Size: 805352 bytes
> > Desc: not available
> > URL: <
> >
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> > >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rhodes22-list mailing list
> > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4372, Issue 1
> > **********************************************
> >
> --
> *>>>>>>>>>  *[image: Sailboat on Messenger]*<<<<<<<<<*
>
> *Peter Klappert5012 Bay State Road Palmetto, FL 34221*
>

From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 07:34:50 2021
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 07:34:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] electric outboard; Rhodie Wear
In-Reply-To: <CAEZbNGAHWCnmu-2uN3ETa0hEGsxVuMvRE-Wo+VYJJ35f1NkzFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1519.1629284249.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
 <CAEZbNGAHWCnmu-2uN3ETa0hEGsxVuMvRE-Wo+VYJJ35f1NkzFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrO9musPwPziBJiEsNidyKkB+UMaoQoDJ2TawzvmmxvOjr89Q@mail.gmail.com>

Peter
I had an ePropulsion Navy 3 electric motor installed on my new Rhodes 22
last year and the battery (e80, which weighs 100 lbs) installed amidships
next to the holding tank. Stan did the installation.
The motor is equivalent to a 6hp outboard and the battery is big enough to
power the engine for about 4 hours at 4 knots.
The positives are: no maintenance, always starts, high torque, sufficient
power for the Rhodes.
The negatives are poor to no support from the company (the local salesfolk
are good but limited in what they can do)

As you may remember I'm a bit south of you in Sarasota and you are welcome
to come for a sail and see it for yourself. I'm up north (Boston) for the
summer but plan to return to Sarasota in November (Covid willing) so "come
on down"
--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
Cell: 410-499-8922


On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:15 PM peter klappert <koatimundi100 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Quite some time ago I queried the list Re: electric outboards, and I
> received answers from Stan and Tom van Heule. There was a sputter of posts
> more recently. Has anyone (other than Tom) gone ahead? My Merc BigFoot
> needs work, and I?m considering selling it cheap and going electric.
>           Related (sort of): at 78 I?m eager to also have a power pocket
> cruiser. As an 80th birthday present to myself (an expensive one) I?ve
> ordered the Swedish Candela C-8. Google it. The reviews are awesome.
>            50 years ago I learned my lesson about exotic foreign vehicles
> with a series of Citroen DS-21s. I hope this won?t repeat that experience.
>           Rear Rhodie Wear, while I applaud the effort to make it
> available, I don?t like uniforms. One burgie (bergie? birdie?) is enough
> for me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 6:57 AM <rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org>
> wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Tiller clutch (Michael McKay)
> >    2. Tiller clutch (Jeff Smith Photo)
> >    3. Short season (Shawn Boles)
> >    4. Re: Short season (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    5. Re: Tiller clutch (THOMAS POLISE)
> >    6. Re: Tiller clutch (Weiss, Robert L)
> >    7. Re: Tiller clutch (stan)
> >    8. Re: Tiller clutch (Jay Friedland)
> >    9. At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   10. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   11. Re: At Ease in Sail (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   12. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   13. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   14. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lowe, Rob)
> >   15. Pop Top Slider Lock (Joe Dempsey)
> >   16. Re: At Ease in Sail (Lee Kuhn)
> >   17. Re: At Ease in Sail (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   18. Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   19. Re: Too few photos underway (Bob Garrant)
> >   20. Re: Too few photos underway (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
> >   21. Re: Too few photos underway (Tom Van Heule)
> >   22. Re: Too few photos underway (Jesse Shumaker)
> >   23. There?s probably a better way... (Larry Gioia)
> >   24. Re: There?s probably a better way... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 23:20:06 -0400
> > From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <4DEF23C9-2A68-4AA1-B0E1-74D437A47D0B at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I don?t have that issue with the lines run to the stern pulpit.  No
> > restriction of movement. The trade off is a bit of play when locked.  On
> my
> > prior boat I installed small V-cleats on the coating which worked well.
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?With the tiller clutch attached to the two aft cleats, the cord runs
> > under the captain chairs and keeps you from lifting the tiller up and
> over
> > the chair seat to make a sharper turn. Not a problem in most conditions,
> > but I don?t leave it rigged when maneuvering in the marina.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > Mike is right about the tiller extension. It has its uses such as
> > steering from the captains chair and at dock. Otherwise it is awkward!
> > Having been reminded about the captain chair position I now wonder if the
> > tiller clutch cordage would get in the way?
> > > Graham
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Jeff,
> > >>
> > >> The tiller extension and lockbox work in the most basic way, but it is
> > awkward and mostly useful when proceeding on a more or less straight
> course.
> > >>
> > >> Here is how I use the Tiller Clutch In a common single-handed
> scenario:
> > >>
> > >> It?s time to tack?Ready about!  Helm?s a lee!
> > >>
> > >> Push the tiller to leeward, lock it in position with the click of a
> > finger.
> > >>
> > >> Shift to the opposite side, adjust jib sheets as we come about.
> > >>
> > >> Unlock tiller with a click and straighten out on the new tack.
> > >>
> > >> Once I?m settled into the new tack I can lock the tiller again for a
> > few moments to tidy up lines and prepare for my next maneuver.
> > >>
> > >> Once you try it, you?ll wonder how you?ve managed without it.
> > >>
> > >> Michael McKay
> > >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> > jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ?Do those who use the brake or clutch also use the GB supplied
> Forespar
> > >>> tiller extension and locking receptical? The tension can be adjusted
> > (or
> > >>> locked) by rotating the extension and is easy to adjust resistance
> > without
> > >>> locking it totally down.
> > >>> It is also a necessity when steering from the gunnel or captain
> chairs.
> > >>> Because I have one of those I don't find the need for either the
> > clutch or
> > >>> the brake.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best Regards
> > >>> Jeff Smith
> > >>>
> >
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> > >>> 732-236-1368
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:17:23 -0400
> > From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
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> >
> > Well!
> > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> tamer?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:49:08 -0700
> > From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:02:31 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
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> >
> > Yikes! Condolences. I hope to sail until sometime in November on Kentucky
> > Lake.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 6:49:08 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Short season
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Sweet Baboo ended the season on July 30th at Fern Ridge Reservoir due to
> > low water.  Normal end of season is post Labor day.  Local Reservoir
> system
> > is at 55% of capacity. Sail while you can!
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Shawn
> > s/ v Sweet Baboo
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 20:41:45 -0400
> > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <8A83AF9A-5BD1-42DA-B24D-9B37F8E3D10F at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:07:48 +0000
> > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
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> >
> > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> >
> > Bob
> > Beach Spring
> >
> > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > Director of Music
> > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> attachments.
> >
> > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > >
> >
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> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:14:59 -0400
> > From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> > To: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <98c23d7e-4844-8df6-2fdf-973268bdb28e at generalboats.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 8/7/21 9:07 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > > I, too, have used both and prefer the clutch. It allows very small and
> > very quick adjustments.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Beach Spring
> > >
> > > Robert L. Weiss Jr.
> > > Director of Music
> > > First United Methodist Carbondale IL
> > > Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:41:45 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or
> > attachments.
> > >
> > > I?ve tried both and vote for the clutch.
> > >
> > >> On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Well!
> > >> Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > >> Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Jeff Smith
> > >>
> >
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> > >> 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 12:10:52 -0400
> > From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller clutch
> > Message-ID: <FE455C84-7E30-4786-A9DF-BBE3392AB2E4 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?m always willing to learn what I don?t know, and trust members of da
> > list to get me there. So I?m now considering trying the clutch to replace
> > the tamer.
> >
> > Jay Friedland
> >
> > > On Aug 7, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well!
> > > Follow de list and learn! Ima gonna give it a whack.
> > > Is the consensus that the best option is the clutch rather than the
> > tamer?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > 732-236-1368
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 20:37:57 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 18:41:14 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEnCRDMYvQDo1miNY-QCTp7di_d-xzLkadUcZ60MMF3_+w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 21:59:03 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fqYmO4+o5muuKqXS2D=
> > Xd4BG2VQB8h1CHpcbTVtwJ+vgw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> > helm
> > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > 1999
> > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > >
> > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> boat
> > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me
> to
> > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> > My
> > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> > the
> > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> > the
> > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> months
> > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > > it.*
> > >
> > > *Lee*
> > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is
> an
> > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 23:57:02 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPgvAE=FQC0j_Y0=TLRf8m=
> > r4CGftrHr8Rc4nNxwn5K4gvY6wQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > S/V Zephyr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> the
> > > helm
> > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> > > 1999
> > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > >
> > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the
> > boat
> > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> me
> > to
> > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> my
> > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> care.
> > > My
> > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> in
> > > the
> > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back
> in
> > > the
> > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > months
> > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> know
> > > > it.*
> > > >
> > > > *Lee*
> > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> months
> > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> is
> > an
> > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:48:05 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV5gwPdV6kjFTnsZYekVuLnRZwgpS5YUEbbR6OZoB=
> > OBg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hang in there Lee, the world and your blue Rhodes awaits your return.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:57 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Jesse!  Looking forward to some good luck.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 10:59 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wow Lee, that's quite a string of bad luck!  Hopefully your PT goes
> > > > smoothly so you can get back in sailing shape sooner rather than
> later.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > > S/V Zephyr
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:41 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at
> > the
> > > > helm
> > > > > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my
> new
> > > > 1999
> > > > > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off
> the
> > > boat
> > > > > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew
> > me
> > > to
> > > > > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted
> > my
> > > > > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched
> > care.
> > > > My
> > > > > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was
> back
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three
> > > months
> > > > > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you
> > know
> > > > > it.*
> > > > >
> > > > > *Lee*
> > > > > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > > > > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this
> > months
> > > > > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this
> > is
> > > an
> > > > > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:04:27 +0000
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, SailClaytor
> >         <sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> DM6PR05MB6985B81FC39C76B44A65EC3DC1F79 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Lee,
> > That is Art and Allison?  I never knew that part. - rob
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Lee
> > Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 6:41 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; SailClaytor <
> > sailclaytor at googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> >
> > Hey Rob!  Yep that's Art Czerwonky with his lovely wife Allison at the
> helm
> > on my old boat.  I'm down below mixing drinks. I copied you on my new
> 1999
> > Rhodes and got a blue hull.  * I hear they're faster.*
> >
> > *As you know the day before launching at Claytor Lake I fell off the boat
> > in my driveway.  Asphalt is a little harder than water so they flew me to
> > Bristol, TN for my concussion.  Among other minor injuries I busted my
> > shoulder but went to Winston-Salem, NC so I could get top-notched care.
> My
> > world renowned surgeon accidentally severed my artery and I woke up in
> the
> > ICU.  A week later they let me go home and two days later I was back in
> the
> > hospital with pneumonia from my intubation tube.  I start my three months
> > of physical therapy tomorrow and should be back sailing before you know
> > it.*
> >
> > *Lee*
> > *1999 Rhodes22*
> > *Claytor Lake, VA*
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > For anyone who gets Sail magazine,  but sure to check out this months
> > > issue and the photo of Lee and At Ease on page 6.  I believe this is an
> > > older photo, as Lee no longer owns At Ease. - Rob
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:16:48 -0400
> > From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop Top Slider Lock
> > Message-ID: <01e701d78e2d$11d60470$35820d50$@hughes.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Be careful buying one online unless it is stainless or brass.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:11:05 -0400
> > From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAPgvAEm_GXe3O+8PhAtLJAKq9FZhbwNeYPXyLJrQur-zaFPwgQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the record-breaking
> > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are managing
> to
> > > stay out of harm's way.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your next posts!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:26:00 +0300
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] At Ease in Sail
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CADNTwiV9xgVb-N32BTODj2VeWf=2qoBR7NjFEB4L-1-F5=
> > uNpg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > We are managing, you keep getting better, OK?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:10 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris.  Across the pond we're hearing about the
> record-breaking
> > > > temperatures and wildfires in Greece.  Hope you and Alice are
> managing
> > to
> > > > stay out of harm's way.
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your next posts!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their well wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:06 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAEqJHY5nLWt_wFEbsh0bL+YP237d_=
> > UmkBGZTiah3J1h3ve4jg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:31:32 -0400
> > From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAPi3tBCVBw=V9kZb-e+=
> > q1WdVUuOLo7bKu7CmbLg+a0rk-5fMg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Great picture. Thanks for sharing
> > Bob Garrant
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:28 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210814/19f55ac9/attachment.jpg
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:45:54 -0400
> > From: <bobfcohen at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID: <007401d7916e$e7a79a70$b6f6cf50$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Tom
> > Van Heule
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> >
> > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 20:17:07 -0500
> > From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAEqJHY6oxk4r2dzQJy4h9Y2DK5ROHDFKJWO+MVf1WdpwRSdCYg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Milwaukee.
> > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from McKinley
> > for 36 years this season.
> >
> > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> to
> > 4ft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Tom
> > > Van Heule
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > >
> > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:47:34 -0500
> > From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMc-3fp=
> > w09LwqK0g+BeW2k3sEG3j1tLMeVtCfLMBVqL+-rDJA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Tom, my friend John spotted your boat at it's slip while walking the
> docks
> > on a visit to visit family in Milwaukee.  When he saw Octopian, he said
> > that he spotted a great looking R22!  John is my crew for Snipe racing
> and
> > he owns a West Wight Potter 19.  With it's blue hull and quite a bit of
> > features for a 19 footer, we joke that it's kind of a mini (and boxy)
> > version of the R22.  John may be back up visiting family in Milwaukee
> again
> > over Labor Day weekend.  If you'd like an extra crew member and it
> happens
> > to be convenient, John would be thrilled to go out with you on Octopian.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Milwaukee.
> > > His boat is as old as I am and he has been sailing his r22 from
> McKinley
> > > for 36 years this season.
> > >
> > > This boat does awesome in lake Michigan from 8 to 18 wind with waves up
> > to
> > > 4ft.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:45 PM <bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where on Lake Michigan are you located?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of
> > > Tom
> > > > Van Heule
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:28 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Too few photos underway
> > > >
> > > > My friends r22 on lake Michigan today.
> > > > Was 8kts no puffs from the south east.
> > > > Wonderful sailing today, enjoy!
> > > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:27:32 -0400
> > From: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID: <19660B4E-391B-413D-921D-4D4FE40A4525 at yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
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> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:57:27 +0000
> > From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > To: Larry Gioia <lgioia at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> CH2PR02MB692031F0CBD24F39CC0C8FB480FF9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > 2 questions:
> >
> >
> >   1.  Was there no wind so you could just sail the remaining 1.5 miles?
> >   2.  Why didn?t you just clamp the trolling motor onto the rudder head,
> > lower it all the way down, turn it 90 deg, & use the rudder to point the
> > thrust?  You might have to kick-up the rudder blade to get it to clear
> the
> > trolling motor?s prop.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >
> > From: Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:27 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] There?s probably a better way...
> >
> > ... but this is what came to mind.
> > My Mercury outboard unexpectedly stopped a month ago while returning but
> > still 1.5 miles away from the dock with a boatload of people. It was fine
> > before and since.
> >
> > I keep a 55# thrust trolling motor on board just in case but between
> > people and motorboat waves there was no way I?d be able to safely swap
> the
> > 2 motors. I eventually got the motor restarted but it got me to thinking.
> > So I made this bracket for the trolling motor. It will stay attached.
> Fire
> > away with better ideas.
> >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> > Name: image0.jpeg
> > Type: image/jpeg
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> > Desc: not available
> > URL: <
> >
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> > >
> > -------------- next part --------------
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ?
> >
> > 2014 R22 Language of Love
> >
> > Lake George, NY
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rhodes22-list mailing list
> > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4372, Issue 1
> > **********************************************
> >
> --
> *>>>>>>>>>  *[image: Sailboat on Messenger]*<<<<<<<<<*
>
> *Peter Klappert5012 Bay State Road Palmetto, FL 34221*
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 17:43:05 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:43:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  electric outboard; Rhodie Wear
Message-ID: <CAM0HAm=Bg9HJJKqKweRU4F-0=sKVx2FzVfAaf73LVR-ymTYSvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Peter,
Do you have Shore power to charge the battery? What is the charge time?

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From btskend at gmail.com  Sun Aug 29 15:54:31 2021
From: btskend at gmail.com (ken bates)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 15:54:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes for sale
Message-ID: <190A6145-A685-41B2-90EC-98AFEE3B30EC@gmail.com>

Regretfully, worsening COPD means I am seldom sailing my Rhodes so I am offering her for sale.
swmi.craigslist.org/boa/d/portage-86-rhodes-22-sailboat/7372806370.html <http://swmi.craigslist.org/boa/d/portage-86-rhodes-22-sailboat/7372806370.html>
Ken

From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Sun Aug 29 16:39:03 2021
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 13:39:03 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes for sale
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Somebody is getting a fine boat at a bargain price!

Cheers,
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo (86/2010)

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021, 12:54 PM ken bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:

> Regretfully, worsening COPD means I am seldom sailing my Rhodes so I am
> offering her for sale.
> swmi.craigslist.org/boa/d/portage-86-rhodes-22-sailboat/7372806370.html <
> http://swmi.craigslist.org/boa/d/portage-86-rhodes-22-sailboat/7372806370.html
> >
> Ken
>

From mark at whipplefamily.com  Mon Aug 30 12:28:21 2021
From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:28:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
Message-ID: <CA+WP5ASA62GnsuDxd67268mzTz+6QWG=5C36OMnTu4=V7z3Eyg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm interested in how you move your outboard around.

This winter I'm planning to pull the Yamaha Saildrive out of my boat and
install an outboard. I have most of the parts for the motor lift from GB.
I've done my best to search the archives and other online resources. The
consensus seems to lean toward a 8hp or 9.9hp Honda or Yamaha 4 stroke long
shaft (20"). I also want an electric start, an alternator and remote
throttle controls.

I was hoping to find an 8hp model since it's a bit lighter, but there seem
to many more 9.9hp engines out there. I was considering buying a newer,
used engine since delivery of new engines is so backed up (maybe a year or
more?).

I found a 2020 Honda 9.9hp available near me for a good price. My question
is: how do you wrestle your outboard that weighs 90 - 120 lbs? I've never
had an outboard that large so I'm wondering about just getting it out of
the car. Anybody ever rig an extension to their boom and use that as a
hoist? I used my boom to replace the diesel engine in my 30' Nimble, but
that was close to the middle of the boom, not past the end. I recall
someone saying they move their OB to a rack on the front of the trailer
every time they tow. It all sounds pretty daunting to me.

I'd love to hear how you handle your outboard. Thanks in advance.

Mark

Boston, MA

2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
1982 Com-Pac 16 *Sold!*

From rweiss at siu.edu  Mon Aug 30 12:33:37 2021
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:33:37 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
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I have an 8hp Mercury because it has the shift on the handle and I don't have to lean over the back of the boat to shift it. I think it weighs about 90 lbs. I can get it in and out of my car with a little help. But it definitely takes 2 people to put it on and off the back of the boat. I back the boat into my slip to do this. Not an easy task with the motor lift that flops forward.

Bob
Beach Spring



Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
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Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:28 AM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

I'm interested in how you move your outboard around.

This winter I'm planning to pull the Yamaha Saildrive out of my boat and
install an outboard. I have most of the parts for the motor lift from GB.
I've done my best to search the archives and other online resources. The
consensus seems to lean toward a 8hp or 9.9hp Honda or Yamaha 4 stroke long
shaft (20"). I also want an electric start, an alternator and remote
throttle controls.

I was hoping to find an 8hp model since it's a bit lighter, but there seem
to many more 9.9hp engines out there. I was considering buying a newer,
used engine since delivery of new engines is so backed up (maybe a year or
more?).

I found a 2020 Honda 9.9hp available near me for a good price. My question
is: how do you wrestle your outboard that weighs 90 - 120 lbs? I've never
had an outboard that large so I'm wondering about just getting it out of
the car. Anybody ever rig an extension to their boom and use that as a
hoist? I used my boom to replace the diesel engine in my 30' Nimble, but
that was close to the middle of the boom, not past the end. I recall
someone saying they move their OB to a rack on the front of the trailer
every time they tow. It all sounds pretty daunting to me.

I'd love to hear how you handle your outboard. Thanks in advance.

Mark

Boston, MA

2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
1982 Com-Pac 16 *Sold!*

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 15:02:39 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:02:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
In-Reply-To: <CH0PR07MB837884C32C77C1533EB2D11BC6CB9@CH0PR07MB8378.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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I also have the 8hp Mercury and like it for the same reason as Bob.  I haven?t towed much, but I have left the outboard mounted when I do and it didn?t seem to be a problem.  Other members of my sailing club also leave their outboards in place when towing their non-Rhodes boats.  You definitely need a second person to help.  

I?m curious to know what other Rhodies recommend regarding leaving the motor on it mount while trailering?

Michael McKay
s/v Liber 2006/2018

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I have an 8hp Mercury because it has the shift on the handle and I don't have to lean over the back of the boat to shift it. I think it weighs about 90 lbs. I can get it in and out of my car with a little help. But it definitely takes 2 people to put it on and off the back of the boat. I back the boat into my slip to do this. Not an easy task with the motor lift that flops forward.
> 
> Bob
> Beach Spring
> 
> 
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:28 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
> 
> I'm interested in how you move your outboard around.
> 
> This winter I'm planning to pull the Yamaha Saildrive out of my boat and
> install an outboard. I have most of the parts for the motor lift from GB.
> I've done my best to search the archives and other online resources. The
> consensus seems to lean toward a 8hp or 9.9hp Honda or Yamaha 4 stroke long
> shaft (20"). I also want an electric start, an alternator and remote
> throttle controls.
> 
> I was hoping to find an 8hp model since it's a bit lighter, but there seem
> to many more 9.9hp engines out there. I was considering buying a newer,
> used engine since delivery of new engines is so backed up (maybe a year or
> more?).
> 
> I found a 2020 Honda 9.9hp available near me for a good price. My question
> is: how do you wrestle your outboard that weighs 90 - 120 lbs? I've never
> had an outboard that large so I'm wondering about just getting it out of
> the car. Anybody ever rig an extension to their boom and use that as a
> hoist? I used my boom to replace the diesel engine in my 30' Nimble, but
> that was close to the middle of the boom, not past the end. I recall
> someone saying they move their OB to a rack on the front of the trailer
> every time they tow. It all sounds pretty daunting to me.
> 
> I'd love to hear how you handle your outboard. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Boston, MA
> 
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *Sold!*

From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 15:11:47 2021
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:11:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
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Agreed?putting an outboard of more than 4 HP on the sailboat is a 2 person
job, absolutely. Also, a
Hand truck helps getting it to and fro. If you plan to install it while
boat is in the water a safety strap to prevent dropping it into the water
also a good idea but end of boom prob not a great option-I?ve used a tall
piling from my dock that I?ve tied up close to
If you have access to a 9.9 Honda 2020 might want to jump on that, not easy
to find
Not sure why moving OB during tow needed, seems like unnecessary work
David Talbot
Fig

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 12:33 PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I have an 8hp Mercury because it has the shift on the handle and I don't
> have to lean over the back of the boat to shift it. I think it weighs about
> 90 lbs. I can get it in and out of my car with a little help. But it
> definitely takes 2 people to put it on and off the back of the boat. I back
> the boat into my slip to do this. Not an easy task with the motor lift that
> flops forward.
>
> Bob
> Beach Spring
>
>
>
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:28 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> I'm interested in how you move your outboard around.
>
> This winter I'm planning to pull the Yamaha Saildrive out of my boat and
> install an outboard. I have most of the parts for the motor lift from GB.
> I've done my best to search the archives and other online resources. The
> consensus seems to lean toward a 8hp or 9.9hp Honda or Yamaha 4 stroke long
> shaft (20"). I also want an electric start, an alternator and remote
> throttle controls.
>
> I was hoping to find an 8hp model since it's a bit lighter, but there seem
> to many more 9.9hp engines out there. I was considering buying a newer,
> used engine since delivery of new engines is so backed up (maybe a year or
> more?).
>
> I found a 2020 Honda 9.9hp available near me for a good price. My question
> is: how do you wrestle your outboard that weighs 90 - 120 lbs? I've never
> had an outboard that large so I'm wondering about just getting it out of
> the car. Anybody ever rig an extension to their boom and use that as a
> hoist? I used my boom to replace the diesel engine in my 30' Nimble, but
> that was close to the middle of the boom, not past the end. I recall
> someone saying they move their OB to a rack on the front of the trailer
> every time they tow. It all sounds pretty daunting to me.
>
> I'd love to hear how you handle your outboard. Thanks in advance.
>
> Mark
>
> Boston, MA
>
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *Sold!*
>

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Aug 30 15:44:58 2021
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:44:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
In-Reply-To: <CA+WP5ASA62GnsuDxd67268mzTz+6QWG=5C36OMnTu4=V7z3Eyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+WP5ASA62GnsuDxd67268mzTz+6QWG=5C36OMnTu4=V7z3Eyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D204DF31-6463-4FF9-BC74-21CD1F72FE1C@stottarchitecture.com>

Mark 
4 stroke Outboards are heavy.
I?m a pretty big guy and have been able to wrestle the Yamaha 8 AND THE 9.9 (they weight the same)  off and on the motor mount by myself, once the boat is on the trailer, but I can?t do it anymore.
Without a crane or boom of some sort it would be a very big challenge to get it on and off while the boat is floating.  
I now have a 2020 Honda extra long shaft (25?) on the boat on an old style manual lift. 
You need two people to lift it on and off safely from the ground. 
I bought an outboard stand with wheels for $110 bucks somewhere a few years ago. 
It helps to move that lug around on land.
The Honda has an even larger Couling than the Yamaha. 
I found it interferes with the stern rail when tilted all the way to the 3rd position.
I am not fimiliar with a remote throttle and unless it also had remote shifting - would not find it to be much value.  
I need a new stern rail anyway, so I?ll correct that when I rebuild the rail. 
It raises the shaft sufficiently out of the water at the 2nd lift notch so for now, I left it alone for this season 
The best thing about the Honda is the 12Amp Alternator. Most others have 6Amp. 
Ric 
Dadventure 
?84 Continental 
HBNY 
 
Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in how you move your outboard around.
> 
> This winter I'm planning to pull the Yamaha Saildrive out of my boat and
> install an outboard. I have most of the parts for the motor lift from GB.
> I've done my best to search the archives and other online resources. The
> consensus seems to lean toward a 8hp or 9.9hp Honda or Yamaha 4 stroke long
> shaft (20"). I also want an electric start, an alternator and remote
> throttle controls.
> 
> I was hoping to find an 8hp model since it's a bit lighter, but there seem
> to many more 9.9hp engines out there. I was considering buying a newer,
> used engine since delivery of new engines is so backed up (maybe a year or
> more?).
> 
> I found a 2020 Honda 9.9hp available near me for a good price. My question
> is: how do you wrestle your outboard that weighs 90 - 120 lbs? I've never
> had an outboard that large so I'm wondering about just getting it out of
> the car. Anybody ever rig an extension to their boom and use that as a
> hoist? I used my boom to replace the diesel engine in my 30' Nimble, but
> that was close to the middle of the boom, not past the end. I recall
> someone saying they move their OB to a rack on the front of the trailer
> every time they tow. It all sounds pretty daunting to me.
> 
> I'd love to hear how you handle your outboard. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Boston, MA
> 
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *Sold!*


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Aug 30 16:10:27 2021
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:10:27 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
Message-ID: <E1mKnbv-00EAKw-3w@s152.servername.online>

One more vote for the 8 HP Mercury with the shift and throttle on the handle.  I don't feel the need for remote controls, and I'm not sure where I'd mount them if I had them.

I only remove or install the outboard when the boat is on its trailer, and I only do it in order to take it in for service.  Otherwise, it stays on the transom year 'round.  

When I do remove or install the outboard, I cheat and use the front end loader on my tractor to do the lifting.  When it's off the boat, I put it on a stand I built out of 2x_ lumber.  With the outboard on the stand I can move it with a hand truck.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

From morrisix at comcast.net  Mon Aug 30 16:31:19 2021
From: morrisix at comcast.net (WILLIAM MORRIS)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:31:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd:  Outboard motor handling
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From melrothbard at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 30 16:32:49 2021
From: melrothbard at yahoo.com (Melvyn Rothbard)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 20:32:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
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PeterI have the same protocol for my 8hp Merc, except that the guy who pulls my boat does the heavy lifting. I have found the 8 he extremely reliable for the 5 months it's in the water.
Mel Rothbard?Paper ClipperLong Beach Island

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg<peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:   One more vote for the 8 HP Mercury with the shift and throttle on the handle.? I don't feel the need for remote controls, and I'm not sure where I'd mount them if I had them.

I only remove or install the outboard when the boat is on its trailer, and I only do it in order to take it in for service.? Otherwise, it stays on the transom year 'round.? 

When I do remove or install the outboard, I cheat and use the front end loader on my tractor to do the lifting.? When it's off the boat, I put it on a stand I built out of 2x_ lumber.? With the outboard on the stand I can move it with a hand truck.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
  

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Aug 30 17:00:02 2021
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 17:00:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Mount problems
Message-ID: <006801d79de2$011aeaf0$0350c0d0$@ebsmed.com>

To Stan and Rhodies who have had issues with their motor mounts:

 

My Rhodes 22 was built in 1991. The motor mount slides in a pair of vertical
nylon tracks and uses a set of sheaves within the grey (fiberglass?)
compartment to provide a 6:1 mechanical advantage for lifting. It has always
worked fairly well. I can easily lift the 6HP 4-stroke Yamaha (104 lbs). See
the attached image for details.

 

Last week, during the rush to haul her out before the no-show Henri (I'm not
complaining), the stern took a hard hit at the end of a finger pier during
the high tide "flood". I may have even hit the outboard on the dock. When I
tied up, I realized that the mount had come out of the vertical tracks. It
appeared as though the horizontal separation had been compressed, permitting
the center portion to come free of the slide.

 

I tied the engine securely to the stern rail and recovered Wind Lass on to
the trailer. Once I pulled the trailer out of the water, two of us lifted
the engine off the mount and slid the mount back into the tracks from the
bottom, after removing the screw that limits the downward travel. We then
remounted the engine and completed preparations to transport her home for
the hurricane.

 

I wonder if anyone else has had a similar experience. Stan, have you made an
improvement that prevents this from happening? Is the mount safe to use?
Yes, I do have a safety chain.

 

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

I'd rather be sailing :~)

 

 

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From joedempsey at hughes.net  Mon Aug 30 17:24:28 2021
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 17:24:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Motor Handling
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Take a look at Suzukis. I've had mine since 2017. I like the fact that it's
fuel injected which makes it more reliable, fuel efficient and clean
burning. May be over powered, but as they say, "Some is good and more is
better"!


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 19:40:17 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:40:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motor mount vibration
Message-ID: <0558FC03-1FB9-4ACA-A885-5C5752D9CF39@gmail.com>

Since we?ve been discussing motor mounts, I thought I?d add a topic.  I love my electric motor mount, but I have one issue that I hope someone can help me fix. 

The motor mount framework vibrates badly at certain RPMs and it noisy most of the time. Has anyone else experienced this and do you have any suggestions?  I?m thinking some rubber bushings in the right place might help but I have to examine the mount fasteners more closely.  

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 19:46:02 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:46:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
In-Reply-To: <1019407922.1133412.1630355569444@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1019407922.1133412.1630355569444@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B27D09D3-4FCC-4EB3-A158-F280D2FF7E31@gmail.com>

For those of us that don?t have a front loader like Peter, a wheeled motor stand is very useful.  There are lots on Amazon. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Melvyn Rothbard via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?PeterI have the same protocol for my 8hp Merc, except that the guy who pulls my boat does the heavy lifting. I have found the 8 he extremely reliable for the 5 months it's in the water.
> Mel Rothbard Paper ClipperLong Beach Island
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg<peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:   One more vote for the 8 HP Mercury with the shift and throttle on the handle.  I don't feel the need for remote controls, and I'm not sure where I'd mount them if I had them.
> 
> I only remove or install the outboard when the boat is on its trailer, and I only do it in order to take it in for service.  Otherwise, it stays on the transom year 'round.  
> 
> When I do remove or install the outboard, I cheat and use the front end loader on my tractor to do the lifting.  When it's off the boat, I put it on a stand I built out of 2x_ lumber.  With the outboard on the stand I can move it with a hand truck.
> 
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> 

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 19:46:50 2021
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:46:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd:  Outboard motor handling
In-Reply-To: <946820009.20965.1630355480462@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <946820009.20965.1630355480462@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <518B0AAA-6766-457E-BC58-962BC6EF0816@gmail.com>

William, you attachment didn?t come through. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 4:31 PM, WILLIAM MORRIS <morrisix at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> <89740D7F-7C9A-43CE-A033-9475B6D3C5C4.jpeg>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Aug 30 21:19:10 2021
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 18:19:10 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] William's Attachment
Message-ID: <E1mKsQg-00G4x6-2K@s152.servername.online>

Actually, William's attachment did come through, sort of.

I haven't seen this behavior before on the list.  In the email I got for William's post, the text normally generated for an attachment was not there.  Normally, there's a bunch of text, and a link to a file on rhodes22.org.  In this case, it looked like a jpeg file was included as an attachment, but it wouldn't open.

But in the archives, the post looks as it should.  Well, it's a bit unusual in that there was no message, just the attachment.  But, the text block for the attachment is formatted as it usually is.

Anyway, the attachment is a picture showing outboard remote controls mounted on the aft vertical surface of the cockpit foot well.  I assume this was in response to my comment that I don't know where I would mount remote controls.

The attachment can be found at this link: http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210830/42f097df/attachment.jpeg

And William's post can be found in the archives here:  http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2021-August/088889.html

--Peter

> On 2021-08-30, at 19:46:50 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>
> William, you attachment didn?t come through.
> 
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 


From Mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Aug 30 21:42:54 2021
From: Mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:42:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motor mount vibration
In-Reply-To: <0558FC03-1FB9-4ACA-A885-5C5752D9CF39@gmail.com>
References: <0558FC03-1FB9-4ACA-A885-5C5752D9CF39@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e0d2f1ab1ed23cbb53196aa34b94be03.squirrel@emailmg.netfirms.com>

West Marine
Model # 8843567 | Mfg # 099073-10
$37.99

Protect transom, cushion engine vibration, and reduce noise. Fits most
outboards up to 25hp. Made from oil-resistant rubber with tough, flexible
engine clamp inserts.

Protects transom, dampens engine vibration and reduces noise
For outboards to 25hp
Made from oil-resistant rubber with tough, flexible engine clamp inserts

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River,  NY

On Mon, August 30, 2021 7:40 pm, Michael McKay wrote:
> Since we???ve been discussing motor mounts, I thought I???d add a topic.
> I love my electric motor mount, but I have one issue that I hope someone
> can help me fix.
>
> The motor mount framework vibrates badly at certain RPMs and it noisy most
> of the time. Has anyone else experienced this and do you have any
> suggestions?  I???m thinking some rubber bushings in the right place might
> help but I have to examine the mount fasteners more closely.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone



From morrisix at comcast.net  Tue Aug 31 08:04:56 2021
From: morrisix at comcast.net (WILLIAM MORRIS)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 08:04:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard motor handling
In-Reply-To: <CA+WP5ASA62GnsuDxd67268mzTz+6QWG=5C36OMnTu4=V7z3Eyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+WP5ASA62GnsuDxd67268mzTz+6QWG=5C36OMnTu4=V7z3Eyg@mail.gmail.com>
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From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Tue Aug 31 11:19:42 2021
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 11:19:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Electric motor mount vibration
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmkpD_xG3K93WfKxEbS=oHnbL7WyL3WC4ezcf8twfor0BA@mail.gmail.com>

The local Yamaha Dealer said they could not install remote controls on my
Yamaha T8ELH because the motor was too close to the transom.  I'm still
trying to get used to operating the throttle and shifter towards the end
of my second season.
I would love to dismount the motor for long trailering in order to add to
the tongue weight, but it is too much of a pain to do so.  I will carry my
uninflated dinghy in the V berth (whether I end up inflating it or not) to
increase tongue weight.
The noise of the motor annoyed me so I installed a double layer of KILMAT
on the inside of the cowl, but an iPhone decibel meter didn't show much
difference. I still have a bunch left, if someone wants to stop by or pay
postage.
Whe WM transom matt has poor reviews, so I looked on McMaster-Carr and saw
these choices.
<
https://www.mcmaster.com/rubber/rubber/multipurpose-neoprene-rubber-sheets-and-strips/
>
McMaster is a great resource for DIY-ers.
Best regards,
Jeff Smith
w <http://NJphoto.Net>ww.jeffsmithphoto.net
Cell: 732-236-1368
Atlantic Highlands, NJ

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Tue Aug 31 15:33:13 2021
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:33:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motor mount vibration
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmkpD_xG3K93WfKxEbS=oHnbL7WyL3WC4ezcf8twfor0BA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmkpD_xG3K93WfKxEbS=oHnbL7WyL3WC4ezcf8twfor0BA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB692013D9BFF843D6A60C84CF80CC9@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Jeff,

Fortunately, the throttle and shifter on my Honda 8hp Extra long shaft outboard are separate.  I?m using a Honda 9.9 hp remote control mounted on the port side gunnel.  The Honda remote control is a single lever shifter + throttle with a separate warm-up throttle lever.  If it?s necessary, I still have to operate the choke at the engine.  In the attached photo, you can see the single engine control lever sticking up above the port side gunnel.  The lever is inside of it?s blue UV protective sock.  Note how the throttle and shifter cables have a spiral bend in them.  This enables them to accommodate the vertical, side to side, and tilting motions of the motor mount and engine itself.  I can only tilt the motor up to the 2nd detent.  But, when the motor mount is fully raised, the 2nd tilt detent allows the lower unit to clear the water unless the port rail is in the water.  i.e. 99+ % of the time.  & remember, I have an extra long shaft engine.

You have to try having the engine remote controls in your left hand and the tiller in your right hand while you stand at the helm station to appreciate how nice this setup is for close quarter?s maneuvering and docking!  Your visibility is great, you have total engine throttle/engine shift/rudder steering control, you can pass dock lines to/from the boat, and you have access to the engine?s tiller if you need to do something fancy with the engine?s thrust.

The GBI motor mount puts the engine cowling at about the normal distance from the transom.  The Honda Engine/Remote Unit works just fine.  It?s hard to believe a Yamaha outboard couldn?t be made to work.  I would get a 2nd opinion.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

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From: Jeff Smith Photo<mailto:jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 11:19 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric motor mount vibration

The local Yamaha Dealer said they could not install remote controls on my
Yamaha T8ELH because the motor was too close to the transom.  I'm still
trying to get used to operating the throttle and shifter towards the end
of my second season.
I would love to dismount the motor for long trailering in order to add to
the tongue weight, but it is too much of a pain to do so.  I will carry my
uninflated dinghy in the V berth (whether I end up inflating it or not) to
increase tongue weight.
The noise of the motor annoyed me so I installed a double layer of KILMAT
on the inside of the cowl, but an iPhone decibel meter didn't show much
difference. I still have a bunch left, if someone wants to stop by or pay
postage.
Whe WM transom matt has poor reviews, so I looked on McMaster-Carr and saw
these choices.
<
https://www.mcmaster.com/rubber/rubber/multipurpose-neoprene-rubber-sheets-and-strips/
>
McMaster is a great resource for DIY-ers.
Best regards,
Jeff Smith
w <http://NJphoto.Net>ww.jeffsmithphoto.net
Cell: 732-236-1368
Atlantic Highlands, NJ

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From btskend at gmail.com  Tue Aug 31 19:27:41 2021
From: btskend at gmail.com (ken bates)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:27:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale
Message-ID: <80CC7E93-21FF-45BA-A652-2090BDB358BB@gmail.com>

Thanks to the list I found a new owner for SV KNOT at WORK
He is Dave Welch, an experienced sailer please welcome him
Ken Bates (officially now a lurker)


From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Tue Aug 31 19:43:06 2021
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 18:43:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale
In-Reply-To: <80CC7E93-21FF-45BA-A652-2090BDB358BB@gmail.com>
References: <80CC7E93-21FF-45BA-A652-2090BDB358BB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc-3frN58ZNBhY5qQZgcKEEYh2=WtM3GU0YbU1y+CSj_r7r-g@mail.gmail.com>

Congrats Dave, it will be great to have another R22 at Lake Manawa!

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 6:27 PM ken bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to the list I found a new owner for SV KNOT at WORK
> He is Dave Welch, an experienced sailer please welcome him
> Ken Bates (officially now a lurker)
>
>