From Joedempsey at hughes.net Fri Dec 3 18:01:05 2021 From: Joedempsey at hughes.net (Joedempsey at hughes.net) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 18:01:05 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES 22 CAPS Message-ID: <000501d7e899$b24bee80$16e3cb80$@hughes.net> There a bunch of Rhodies who haven't ordered yet. If you want a cap, order it now, I'm told that inventories are getting sparce due to shipping delays, but there is still time to ship before the holidays. Prices are $25.00 + $5.00 for shipping. If you want special wording on the side or rear, add $12.00. Order by return offline email to joedempsey at hughes.net with choice of colors Navy or White and quantity and your shipping address. I will send you a PayPal Invoice. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 29671 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming along the mast and then at the base of the mast? Thanks in advance --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:07 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > I liked the rigging changes that Peter made to S/V Silverheels in episode > 30 (https://youtu.be/YS1MIEcvkPs) of his youtube videos. He went further > than I did, but over the winter I made similar changes for the IMF outhaul > and furler on Zephyr. Now that I was able to try it out I put together > some photos and a couple of short videos in case others might want to try > this. I'm happy with how it turned out. It makes a convenient process > even easier! I know there's a performance penalty for IMF compared to > traditional mainsail but I primarily enjoy my R22 for relaxing. > > One other note: after going out in high winds at the end of last season, my > mainsail had started to tear where it joins the sunbrella fabric. I think > there had been some UV damage when a bit of the white portion of the > mainsail was left exposed by the prior owner. I had a local sailmaker add > extra sunbrella fabric as a patch and that seems to work well. I roll a > small bit of the sunbrella portion into the mast. > > Link to the document: (it's also attached) > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wnx9wIExMgZliuu67VgtYRByzYyod3Gp/view?usp=sharing > > Video of outhaul is at https://youtu.be/rnlbU_VqKyk > > Video of furling is at https://youtu.be/dAeTd1EeC4c > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: ZephyrIMFRiggingUpdates.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 311084 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20210519/2bf83996/attachment.pdf > > > From peter at sunnybeeches.com Mon Dec 6 11:09:42 2021 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 08:09:42 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Reuben, The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' (Harken model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a screw or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the existing slot was too long. The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > Jesse > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the furling > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an exit block > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to the hole > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you remember > which exit block you used? > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming along the > mast and then at the base of the mast? > Thanks in advance > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 11:15:14 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:15:14 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter Thanks for the quick detailed response I'll get to work --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Reuben, > > The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' (Harken > model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a screw > or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the > existing slot was too long. > > The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > Jesse > > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the > furling > > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an > exit block > > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to the > hole > > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you > remember > > which exit block you used? > > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming > along the > > mast and then at the base of the mast? > > Thanks in advance > > --Reuben > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 20:55:07 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 19:55:07 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Reuben, It looks like Peter covered your questions about the blocks. Like Peter, I cut a new slot in the boom for the exit block. I used a Dremel with a grinder bit to accomplish that. I used pop rivets to attach the exit block to the boom. I included some photos and a brief description of the rigging changes I made on page 20 of the following document: http://rhodes22.org/document.html?documents/Zephyr%20Projects%20&%20Boat%20Tour.pdf Good luck and please let us know how it comes together! Jesse Shumaker S/V Zephyr On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:15 AM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > Peter > Thanks for the quick detailed response > I'll get to work > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg > wrote: > > > Reuben, > > > > The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' (Harken > > model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a screw > > or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the > > existing slot was too long. > > > > The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. > > > > Peter Nyberg > > Coventry, CT > > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > > > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > Jesse > > > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the > > furling > > > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > > > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an > > exit block > > > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to the > > hole > > > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you > > remember > > > which exit block you used? > > > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming > > along the > > > mast and then at the base of the mast? > > > Thanks in advance > > > --Reuben > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 01:40:55 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 01:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If I might ask two more questions.... What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the outhaul line back to the mast? If screws are used to hold it....what size? Thanks --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 8:55 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Reuben, > > It looks like Peter covered your questions about the blocks. Like Peter, I > cut a new slot in the boom for the exit block. I used a Dremel with a > grinder bit to accomplish that. I used pop rivets to attach the exit block > to the boom. I included some photos and a brief description of the rigging > changes I made on page 20 of the following document: > > http://rhodes22.org/document.html?documents/Zephyr%20Projects%20&%20Boat%20Tour.pdf > > Good luck and please let us know how it comes together! > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:15 AM Reuben Mezrich > wrote: > > > Peter > > Thanks for the quick detailed response > > I'll get to work > > --Reuben > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg > > wrote: > > > > > Reuben, > > > > > > The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' > (Harken > > > model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a > screw > > > or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the > > > existing slot was too long. > > > > > > The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. > > > > > > Peter Nyberg > > > Coventry, CT > > > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > > > > > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > Jesse > > > > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the > > > furling > > > > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > > > > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an > > > exit block > > > > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to > the > > > hole > > > > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you > > > remember > > > > which exit block you used? > > > > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming > > > along the > > > > mast and then at the base of the mast? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > --Reuben > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Joedempsey at hughes.net Tue Dec 7 14:43:17 2021 From: Joedempsey at hughes.net (Joedempsey at hughes.net) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 14:43:17 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES 22 CAPS Message-ID: <027f01d7eba2$b3a47d90$1aed78b0$@hughes.net> A bunch of you guys have just ordered Rhodes 22 caps so I'm getting ready to place an order. If you wish to add to the order, get your request in to me now. It will speed up your delivery. Offline at joedempsey at hughes.net . Hope everyone likes them. From peter at sunnybeeches.com Tue Dec 7 16:11:10 2021 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 13:11:10 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Reuben, The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. --Peter > On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > If I might ask two more questions.... > What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the outhaul line > back to the mast? > If screws are used to hold it....what size? > Thanks > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 16:38:46 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 16:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks again Reuben Mezrich Cell: 410-499-8922 > On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > ?Reuben, > > The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. > > --Peter > >> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: >> >> If I might ask two more questions.... >> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the outhaul line >> back to the mast? >> If screws are used to hold it....what size? >> Thanks >> --Reuben >> Reuben Mezrich >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >> Cell: 410-499-8922 >> >> >> > From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 17:19:54 2021 From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:19:54 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES 22 CAPS In-Reply-To: <027f01d7eba2$b3a47d90$1aed78b0$@hughes.net> References: <027f01d7eba2$b3a47d90$1aed78b0$@hughes.net> Message-ID: <548DFB3F-700A-492A-890C-20843D1658DF@gmail.com> I am late to the party but would like one. What do I need to do? Thanks, Frank Goldsmith S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) Fairview, NC Lake Keowee, SC > On Dec 7, 2021, at 2:43 PM, wrote: > > A bunch of you guys have just ordered Rhodes 22 caps so I'm getting ready to > place an order. If you wish to add to the order, get your request in to me > now. It will speed up your delivery. Offline at joedempsey at hughes.net > . Hope everyone likes them. > From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 18:09:48 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:09:48 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter, thanks for getting back to Rueben with the details. I used the same block that you mentioned. It's been busy at work recently, hence my slow responses. Rueben, you're probably already tracking on this, but I had to tap the threads in the boom for the screws on the cheek block. Jesse On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:38 PM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > Thanks again > > Reuben Mezrich > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > > > ?Reuben, > > > > The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the > specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item > #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but > it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit > longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. > > > > --Peter > > > >> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > >> > >> If I might ask two more questions.... > >> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the > outhaul line > >> back to the mast? > >> If screws are used to hold it....what size? > >> Thanks > >> --Reuben > >> Reuben Mezrich > >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >> Cell: 410-499-8922 > >> > >> > >> > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 18:49:55 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 18:49:55 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DF2C374-A7D3-4455-8F47-06CEDA42CD3D@gmail.com> Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws Reuben Mezrich Cell: 410-499-8922 > On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > ?Peter, thanks for getting back to Rueben with the details. I used the same > block that you mentioned. It's been busy at work recently, hence my slow > responses. Rueben, you're probably already tracking on this, but I had to > tap the threads in the boom for the screws on the cheek block. > > Jesse > >> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:38 PM Reuben Mezrich >> wrote: >> >> Thanks again >> >> Reuben Mezrich >> Cell: 410-499-8922 >> >>>> On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: >>> >>> ?Reuben, >>> >>> The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the >> specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item >> #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but >> it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit >> longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. >>> >>> --Peter >>> >>>> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: >>>> >>>> If I might ask two more questions.... >>>> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the >> outhaul line >>>> back to the mast? >>>> If screws are used to hold it....what size? >>>> Thanks >>>> --Reuben >>>> Reuben Mezrich >>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >>>> Cell: 410-499-8922 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> From peter at sunnybeeches.com Tue Dec 7 21:09:48 2021 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:09:48 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood screws. I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can identify with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more work, it must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually true. Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think I'm using those terms correctly). Perhaps Roger would care to comment. --Peter > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > Reuben Mezrich > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 21:17:53 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 20:17:53 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer when I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I drilled pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to avoid stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse for more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than necessary, which often seems to be the case :) On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood screws. > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can identify > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more work, it > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually > true. > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think I'm > using those terms correctly). > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > --Peter > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 07:05:38 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 07:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look like simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). Having few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to go with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report on the outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this week (its good to be in Florida!) --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer when > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I drilled > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to avoid > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse for > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood screws. > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can > identify > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more work, > it > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually > > true. > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think I'm > > using those terms correctly). > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > --Peter > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 07:29:38 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 06:29:38 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good luck at the races! On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:06 AM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look like > simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). Having > few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to go > with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report on the > outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this week > (its good to be in Florida!) > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer > when > > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I drilled > > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to > avoid > > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse for > > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg > wrote: > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood > screws. > > > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General > > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can > > identify > > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more > work, > > it > > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually > > > true. > > > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think > I'm > > > using those terms correctly). > > > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > > > --Peter > > > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 20:07:01 2021 From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 01:07:01 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: <2DF2C374-A7D3-4455-8F47-06CEDA42CD3D@gmail.com> References: <2DF2C374-A7D3-4455-8F47-06CEDA42CD3D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <38C6BBB6-6A7C-4C08-A850-B39959EFA308@gmail.com> Rivets are often a good option as well. Michael McKay (630) 209-2054 (m) Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2021, at 11:50 PM, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > ?Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > Reuben Mezrich > Cell: 410-499-8922 > >> On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: >> >> ?Peter, thanks for getting back to Rueben with the details. I used the same >> block that you mentioned. It's been busy at work recently, hence my slow >> responses. Rueben, you're probably already tracking on this, but I had to >> tap the threads in the boom for the screws on the cheek block. >> >> Jesse >> >>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:38 PM Reuben Mezrich >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Reuben Mezrich >>> Cell: 410-499-8922 >>> >>>>>> On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Reuben, >>>>> >>>>> The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the >>> specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item >>> #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but >>> it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit >>> longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. >>>> >>>> --Peter >>>> >>>>> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If I might ask two more questions.... >>>>> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the >>> outhaul line >>>>> back to the mast? >>>>> If screws are used to hold it....what size? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> --Reuben >>>>> Reuben Mezrich >>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >>>>> Cell: 410-499-8922 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> From mwhipple59 at gmail.com Tue Dec 14 18:59:52 2021 From: mwhipple59 at gmail.com (Mark Whipple) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:59:52 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress Message-ID: Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, either. Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt boom for the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a few other things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to be painted. All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed kind of cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I realized that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like to sail. The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer in Sweden is out of business. If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt boom) send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but maybe something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most straightforward to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine controls and two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. 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Thanks, Frank Frank Goldsmith S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) Fairview, NC Lake Keowee, SC From peter at sunnybeeches.com Tue Dec 14 21:11:17 2021 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:11:17 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress Message-ID: Mark, Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a Rhodes 22. I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. --Peter > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, either. > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt boom for > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a few other > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to be > painted. > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed kind of > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I realized > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like to sail. > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer in > Sweden is out of business. > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt boom) > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but maybe > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most straightforward > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine controls and > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. I'm > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and could use > the parts. > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > Mark > > Boston, MA > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment.jpg" > target="_blank">20211113_120958.jpg > > href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment-0001.jpg" > target="_blank">20211113_121058.jpg > > href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment-0002.jpg" > target="_blank">20211213_134325.jpg > > href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment-0003.jpg" > target="_blank">20211213_135557.jpg > From peter at sunnybeeches.com Tue Dec 14 21:21:05 2021 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:21:05 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: Frank, I don't have an electric motor, and my motor lift system was originally winch powered, not line and pulley. But, the experience with the system I have suggests that there is no inherent reason that it should be too stiff to work with a lighter motor. I'd say the path of least resistance would be to figure out why the existing system doesn't operate more smoothly, and address those issues. Creating some new raising/lowering mechanism would be a big project. --Peter > On 2021-12-14, at 20:37:22 EST, Frank Goldsmith wrote: > > Listmates, > > For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, did you > mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have the GB motor > mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is very stiff to operate > even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, and I?m concerned that a > Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it be lowered. I?d welcome any > input. > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Frank Goldsmith > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) > Fairview, NC > Lake Keowee, SC > From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com Tue Dec 14 22:33:34 2021 From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:33:34 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199E1694-D4A9-49B1-9A7C-DCD62F1004F8@gmail.com> Peter, Thanks. I?m sure you?re right. My motor mount surely needs some attention, as I don?t think it used to be that hard to operate. I?ve tried spraying some lubricant on places where I thought it needed it, but I may have to take off the motor and examine it more closely to see what?s going on. I really don?t want to get involved in replacing the mount with a different kind of system. Best, Frank > On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:21 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > Frank, > > I don't have an electric motor, and my motor lift system was originally winch powered, not line and pulley. But, the experience with the system I have suggests that there is no inherent reason that it should be too stiff to work with a lighter motor. > > I'd say the path of least resistance would be to figure out why the existing system doesn't operate more smoothly, and address those issues. Creating some new raising/lowering mechanism would be a big project. > > --Peter > >> On 2021-12-14, at 20:37:22 EST, Frank Goldsmith wrote: >> >> Listmates, >> >> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, did you >> mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have the GB motor >> mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is very stiff to operate >> even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, and I?m concerned that a >> Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it be lowered. I?d welcome any >> input. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Frank >> >> Frank Goldsmith >> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >> Fairview, NC >> Lake Keowee, SC >> > From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 01:04:13 2021 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:04:13 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frank: I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith wrote: > Listmates, > > For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, > did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have > the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is > very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, > and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it > be lowered. I?d welcome any input. > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Frank Goldsmith > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) > Fairview, NC > Lake Keowee, SC > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 06:24:02 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:24:02 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow!, what a lot of work....well done! --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 9:11 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Mark, > > Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a > Rhodes 22. > > I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like > there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. > > --Peter > > > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, > either. > > > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt > boom for > > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a > few other > > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to > be > > painted. > > > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed > kind of > > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I > realized > > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like > to sail. > > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer > in > > Sweden is out of business. > > > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt > boom) > > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but > maybe > > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most > straightforward > > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine > controls and > > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. > I'm > > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and > could use > > the parts. > > > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > > > Mark > > > > Boston, MA > > > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > > > > href=" > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment.jpg" > > > target="_blank">20211113_120958.jpg > > > > > href=" > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment-0001.jpg" > > > target="_blank">20211113_121058.jpg > > > > > href=" > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment-0002.jpg" > > > target="_blank">20211213_134325.jpg > > > > > href=" > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211214/bc221164/attachment-0003.jpg" > > > target="_blank">20211213_135557.jpg > > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 06:27:26 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:27:26 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frank I put an ePropulsion Nav 3 on the motor mount with the winch and it works fine. The motor weighs about 55 lbs which is less than most gas powered engines. The e80 battery is under the foot of the forward V berth. Stan replaced the 15 gallon water tank with a 5 gallon tank in it fits fine. --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 8:37 PM Frank Goldsmith wrote: > Listmates, > > For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, > did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have > the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is > very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, > and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it > be lowered. I?d welcome any input. > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Frank Goldsmith > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) > Fairview, NC > Lake Keowee, SC > From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 07:38:37 2021 From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:38:37 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA04834-DAA8-498A-87A3-318716DC341B@gmail.com> Thanks, Shawn and Reuben, for your replies. That?s encouraging to hear. Sounds like I first just need to make sure my mount operates freely (both for the motor I have and the one I am pondering getting). Frank > On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Boles wrote: > > Frank: > > I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. > Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. > > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith > wrote: > >> Listmates, >> >> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, >> did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have >> the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is >> very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, >> and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it >> be lowered. I?d welcome any input. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Frank >> >> Frank Goldsmith >> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >> Fairview, NC >> Lake Keowee, SC >> From roger_pihlaja at msn.com Wed Dec 15 08:19:20 2021 From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:19:20 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor In-Reply-To: <6EA04834-DAA8-498A-87A3-318716DC341B@gmail.com> References: <6EA04834-DAA8-498A-87A3-318716DC341B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Frank, My guess is the control line that runs thru all those blocks on the motor mount is saturated with salt, algae, or other environmental crud and it?s very stiff. Try washing it, hot, HD cycle with a good laundry detergent, no bleach, and fabric softener. After washing, if the line is still stiff, you may need to soak it in a bucket full of fabric softener solution. While the control line is out, pressure wash the blocks on the motor mount and make sure they spin freely. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Frank Goldsmith wrote: > > ?Thanks, Shawn and Reuben, for your replies. That?s encouraging to hear. Sounds like I first just need to make sure my mount operates freely (both for the motor I have and the one I am pondering getting). > > Frank > >> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> >> Frank: >> >> I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. >> Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. >> >> Cheers, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith >>> wrote: >>> >>> Listmates, >>> >>> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, >>> did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have >>> the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is >>> very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, >>> and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it >>> be lowered. I?d welcome any input. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> Frank Goldsmith >>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >>> Fairview, NC >>> Lake Keowee, SC >>> > From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 08:25:04 2021 From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:25:04 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A300E2F-3B66-461B-95E6-7FA9857D9992@gmail.com> Thanks, Roger. Sounds like good advice. Frank Sent from my iPad > On Dec 15, 2021, at 8:19 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA wrote: > > ?Frank, > > My guess is the control line that runs thru all those blocks on the motor mount is saturated with salt, algae, or other environmental crud and it?s very stiff. Try washing it, hot, HD cycle with a good laundry detergent, no bleach, and fabric softener. After washing, if the line is still stiff, you may need to soak it in a bucket full of fabric softener solution. While the control line is out, pressure wash the blocks on the motor mount and make sure they spin freely. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 15, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Frank Goldsmith wrote: >> >> ?Thanks, Shawn and Reuben, for your replies. That?s encouraging to hear. Sounds like I first just need to make sure my mount operates freely (both for the motor I have and the one I am pondering getting). >> >> Frank >> >>>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>> >>> Frank: >>> >>> I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. >>> Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Shawn >>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Listmates, >>>> >>>> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, >>>> did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have >>>> the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is >>>> very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, >>>> and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it >>>> be lowered. I?d welcome any input. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Frank >>>> >>>> Frank Goldsmith >>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >>>> Fairview, NC >>>> Lake Keowee, SC >>>> >> From mark at whipplefamily.com Wed Dec 15 09:18:14 2021 From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:18:14 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter, You are correct. To steer I had to stand on the cockpit seats either beside or behind the wheel. I'm looking forward to having a tiller once again. Now I just have to patch the big hole in the cockpit sole. By the way, anyone have a source for the socket that mounts in the cockpit (and cabin) sole to support the table? Also, I've now uncovered what was a significant source of the rainwater in the bilge: the wheel pedestal. While it may have been sealed to the cockpit sole at one time, it has clearly been leaking for many years. Oh, and I just want to say that reaching under the cockpit to remove the bolts for the pedestal was not fun. At all. Thanks, Mark Boston, MA 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 9:11 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Mark, > > Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a > Rhodes 22. > > I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like > there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. > > --Peter > > > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, > either. > > > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt > boom for > > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a > few other > > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to > be > > painted. > > > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed > kind of > > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I > realized > > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like > to sail. > > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer > in > > Sweden is out of business. > > > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt > boom) > > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but > maybe > > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most > straightforward > > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine > controls and > > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. > I'm > > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and > could use > > the parts. > > > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > > > Mark > > > > Boston, MA > > > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > From rlowe at vt.edu Wed Dec 15 09:31:31 2021 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:31:31 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark, The socket for the table is a standard RV type. Here is but one example. - rob https://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/rv-accessories-for-your-rv-type/pop-up-campers/table-leg-base-flush-mount/ [https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-afxjn/products/61479/images/6246/flush_mount_table_base__62304.1615310764.500.659.jpg?c=2] Table Leg Base, Flush Mount - RV Supply Warehouse Table Leg Base, Flush Mount. Recessed Round 6 Mounting Holes Strong, lightweight aluminum mounting hubs. www.rvsupplywarehouse.com ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Mark Whipple Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:18 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Progress Peter, You are correct. To steer I had to stand on the cockpit seats either beside or behind the wheel. I'm looking forward to having a tiller once again. Now I just have to patch the big hole in the cockpit sole. By the way, anyone have a source for the socket that mounts in the cockpit (and cabin) sole to support the table? Also, I've now uncovered what was a significant source of the rainwater in the bilge: the wheel pedestal. While it may have been sealed to the cockpit sole at one time, it has clearly been leaking for many years. Oh, and I just want to say that reaching under the cockpit to remove the bolts for the pedestal was not fun. At all. Thanks, Mark Boston, MA 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 9:11 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Mark, > > Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a > Rhodes 22. > > I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like > there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. > > --Peter > > > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, > either. > > > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt > boom for > > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a > few other > > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to > be > > painted. > > > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed > kind of > > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I > realized > > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like > to sail. > > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer > in > > Sweden is out of business. > > > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt > boom) > > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but > maybe > > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most > straightforward > > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine > controls and > > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. > I'm > > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and > could use > > the parts. > > > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > > > Mark > > > > Boston, MA > > > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > From sjcclu at msn.com Wed Dec 15 12:42:32 2021 From: sjcclu at msn.com (Stephen CongdonCLU) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:42:32 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4399, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: for what it's worth department:: based on Sandusky bay, we used a 36 volt trolling motor on our 1979 R22 we used a small triple block on the original light weight motor mount, and mounted the batteries forward where the original water tank was fitted Results : quiet and powerful yes she seemed to sail better with that mass shifted forward never a suggestion of water coming up the cockpit drain Merry Christmas to all Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:19:21 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4399, Issue 1 Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frhodes22-list&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ZUx85K9hFu%2FMyHxpGog51ygz1Kh7yKTEv6oDA9Xj%2BuY%3D&reserved=0 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org You can reach the person managing the list at rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Peter Nyberg) 2. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Reuben Mezrich) 3. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Jesse Shumaker) 4. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Reuben Mezrich) 5. RHODES 22 CAPS (Joedempsey at hughes.net) 6. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Peter Nyberg) 7. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Reuben Mezrich) 8. Re: RHODES 22 CAPS (Frank Goldsmith) 9. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Jesse Shumaker) 10. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Reuben Mezrich) 11. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Peter Nyberg) 12. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Jesse Shumaker) 13. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Reuben Mezrich) 14. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Jesse Shumaker) 15. Re: Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter (Michael McKay) 16. Progress (Mark Whipple) 17. Mounting an electric motor (Frank Goldsmith) 18. Re: Progress (Peter Nyberg) 19. Re: Mounting an electric motor (Peter Nyberg) 20. Re: Mounting an electric motor (Frank Goldsmith) 21. Re: Mounting an electric motor (Shawn Boles) 22. Re: Progress (Reuben Mezrich) 23. Re: Mounting an electric motor (Reuben Mezrich) 24. Re: Mounting an electric motor (Frank Goldsmith) 25. Re: Mounting an electric motor (ROGER PIHLAJA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 08:09:42 -0800 From: Peter Nyberg To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Reuben, The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' (Harken model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a screw or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the existing slot was too long. The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > Jesse > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the furling > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an exit block > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to the hole > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you remember > which exit block you used? > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming along the > mast and then at the base of the mast? > Thanks in advance > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:15:14 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Peter Thanks for the quick detailed response I'll get to work --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Reuben, > > The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' (Harken > model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a screw > or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the > existing slot was too long. > > The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > Jesse > > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the > furling > > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an > exit block > > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to the > hole > > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you > remember > > which exit block you used? > > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming > along the > > mast and then at the base of the mast? > > Thanks in advance > > --Reuben > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 19:55:07 -0600 From: Jesse Shumaker To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Reuben, It looks like Peter covered your questions about the blocks. Like Peter, I cut a new slot in the boom for the exit block. I used a Dremel with a grinder bit to accomplish that. I used pop rivets to attach the exit block to the boom. I included some photos and a brief description of the rigging changes I made on page 20 of the following document: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fdocument.html%3Fdocuments%2FZephyr%2520Projects%2520%26%2520Boat%2520Tour.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=BjNiOSpEx%2FzxqzRHAfiOodVlc4qyvT5WvPpRnLE5%2F60%3D&reserved=0 Good luck and please let us know how it comes together! Jesse Shumaker S/V Zephyr On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:15 AM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > Peter > Thanks for the quick detailed response > I'll get to work > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg > wrote: > > > Reuben, > > > > The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' (Harken > > model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a screw > > or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the > > existing slot was too long. > > > > The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. > > > > Peter Nyberg > > Coventry, CT > > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > > > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > Jesse > > > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the > > furling > > > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > > > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an > > exit block > > > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to the > > hole > > > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you > > remember > > > which exit block you used? > > > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming > > along the > > > mast and then at the base of the mast? > > > Thanks in advance > > > --Reuben > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 01:40:55 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If I might ask two more questions.... What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the outhaul line back to the mast? If screws are used to hold it....what size? Thanks --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 8:55 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Reuben, > > It looks like Peter covered your questions about the blocks. Like Peter, I > cut a new slot in the boom for the exit block. I used a Dremel with a > grinder bit to accomplish that. I used pop rivets to attach the exit block > to the boom. I included some photos and a brief description of the rigging > changes I made on page 20 of the following document: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fdocument.html%3Fdocuments%2FZephyr%2520Projects%2520%26%2520Boat%2520Tour.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=BjNiOSpEx%2FzxqzRHAfiOodVlc4qyvT5WvPpRnLE5%2F60%3D&reserved=0 > > Good luck and please let us know how it comes together! > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:15 AM Reuben Mezrich > wrote: > > > Peter > > Thanks for the quick detailed response > > I'll get to work > > --Reuben > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:10 AM Peter Nyberg > > wrote: > > > > > Reuben, > > > > > > The exit block I used was a 'Harken 29mm Thru-Deck Bullet Block' > (Harken > > > model #287, Defender item #604915). This mounts to the boom with a > screw > > > or bolt at each end. I made a new slot in the boom for it because the > > > existing slot was too long. > > > > > > The blocks at the mast were sized for 1/4" line. > > > > > > Peter Nyberg > > > Coventry, CT > > > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > > > > > On 2021-12-06, at 09:43:46 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > Jesse > > > > I'm planning on making the same rigging changes you described for the > > > furling > > > > and unfurling lines and have a few questions. > > > > Peter Nyborg cut a new hole in the underside of the boom to place an > > > exit block > > > > for the furling line. Did you do that or just add an exit block to > the > > > hole > > > > that's already there (which would be my preferred approach) Do you > > > remember > > > > which exit block you used? > > > > Do you remember what size blocks you used, both for the lines coming > > > along the > > > > mast and then at the base of the mast? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > --Reuben > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 14:43:17 -0500 From: To: Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES 22 CAPS Message-ID: <027f01d7eba2$b3a47d90$1aed78b0$@hughes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A bunch of you guys have just ordered Rhodes 22 caps so I'm getting ready to place an order. If you wish to add to the order, get your request in to me now. It will speed up your delivery. Offline at joedempsey at hughes.net . Hope everyone likes them. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 13:11:10 -0800 From: Peter Nyberg To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Reuben, The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. --Peter > On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > If I might ask two more questions.... > What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the outhaul line > back to the mast? > If screws are used to hold it....what size? > Thanks > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 16:38:46 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks again Reuben Mezrich Cell: 410-499-8922 > On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > ?Reuben, > > The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. > > --Peter > >> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: >> >> If I might ask two more questions.... >> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the outhaul line >> back to the mast? >> If screws are used to hold it....what size? >> Thanks >> --Reuben >> Reuben Mezrich >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >> Cell: 410-499-8922 >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:19:54 -0500 From: Frank Goldsmith To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES 22 CAPS Message-ID: <548DFB3F-700A-492A-890C-20843D1658DF at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am late to the party but would like one. What do I need to do? Thanks, Frank Goldsmith S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) Fairview, NC Lake Keowee, SC > On Dec 7, 2021, at 2:43 PM, wrote: > > A bunch of you guys have just ordered Rhodes 22 caps so I'm getting ready to > place an order. If you wish to add to the order, get your request in to me > now. It will speed up your delivery. Offline at joedempsey at hughes.net > . Hope everyone likes them. > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:09:48 -0600 From: Jesse Shumaker To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Peter, thanks for getting back to Rueben with the details. I used the same block that you mentioned. It's been busy at work recently, hence my slow responses. Rueben, you're probably already tracking on this, but I had to tap the threads in the boom for the screws on the cheek block. Jesse On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:38 PM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > Thanks again > > Reuben Mezrich > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > > > ?Reuben, > > > > The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the > specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item > #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but > it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit > longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. > > > > --Peter > > > >> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > >> > >> If I might ask two more questions.... > >> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the > outhaul line > >> back to the mast? > >> If screws are used to hold it....what size? > >> Thanks > >> --Reuben > >> Reuben Mezrich > >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >> Cell: 410-499-8922 > >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 18:49:55 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: <2DF2C374-A7D3-4455-8F47-06CEDA42CD3D at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws Reuben Mezrich Cell: 410-499-8922 > On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > ?Peter, thanks for getting back to Rueben with the details. I used the same > block that you mentioned. It's been busy at work recently, hence my slow > responses. Rueben, you're probably already tracking on this, but I had to > tap the threads in the boom for the screws on the cheek block. > > Jesse > >> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:38 PM Reuben Mezrich >> wrote: >> >> Thanks again >> >> Reuben Mezrich >> Cell: 410-499-8922 >> >>>> On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: >>> >>> ?Reuben, >>> >>> The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the >> specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item >> #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but >> it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit >> longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. >>> >>> --Peter >>> >>>> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: >>>> >>>> If I might ask two more questions.... >>>> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the >> outhaul line >>>> back to the mast? >>>> If screws are used to hold it....what size? >>>> Thanks >>>> --Reuben >>>> Reuben Mezrich >>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >>>> Cell: 410-499-8922 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:09:48 -0800 From: Peter Nyberg To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood screws. I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can identify with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more work, it must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually true. Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think I'm using those terms correctly). Perhaps Roger would care to comment. --Peter > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > Reuben Mezrich > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 20:17:53 -0600 From: Jesse Shumaker To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer when I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I drilled pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to avoid stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse for more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than necessary, which often seems to be the case :) On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood screws. > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can identify > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more work, it > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually > true. > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think I'm > using those terms correctly). > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > --Peter > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 07:05:38 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look like simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). Having few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to go with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report on the outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this week (its good to be in Florida!) --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer when > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I drilled > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to avoid > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse for > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood screws. > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can > identify > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more work, > it > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually > > true. > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think I'm > > using those terms correctly). > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > --Peter > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 06:29:38 -0600 From: Jesse Shumaker To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Good luck at the races! On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:06 AM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look like > simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). Having > few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to go > with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report on the > outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this week > (its good to be in Florida!) > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer > when > > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I drilled > > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to > avoid > > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse for > > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg > wrote: > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood > screws. > > > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by General > > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can > > identify > > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more > work, > > it > > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's actually > > > true. > > > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think > I'm > > > using those terms correctly). > > > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > > > --Peter > > > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 01:07:01 +0000 From: Michael McKay To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter Message-ID: <38C6BBB6-6A7C-4C08-A850-B39959EFA308 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Rivets are often a good option as well. Michael McKay (630) 209-2054 (m) Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2021, at 11:50 PM, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > ?Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal screws > > Reuben Mezrich > Cell: 410-499-8922 > >> On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: >> >> ?Peter, thanks for getting back to Rueben with the details. I used the same >> block that you mentioned. It's been busy at work recently, hence my slow >> responses. Rueben, you're probably already tracking on this, but I had to >> tap the threads in the boom for the screws on the cheek block. >> >> Jesse >> >>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:38 PM Reuben Mezrich >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Reuben Mezrich >>> Cell: 410-499-8922 >>> >>>>>> On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Reuben, >>>>> >>>>> The block at the end of the boom is a cheek block. I'm pretty sure the >>> specific model is a Ronstan 20mm (Ronstan model #RF20151, Defender item >>> #614283). I don't recall the size of the screws used. I'd guess #6, but >>> it might have been #8. Length would be 1/2" or 3/4". Using screws a bit >>> longer than necessary in this location wouldn't adversely affect anything. >>>> >>>> --Peter >>>> >>>>> On 2021-12-07, at 01:40:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If I might ask two more questions.... >>>>> What kind and size block is used at the end of the mast to turn the >>> outhaul line >>>>> back to the mast? >>>>> If screws are used to hold it....what size? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> --Reuben >>>>> Reuben Mezrich >>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston >>>>> Cell: 410-499-8922 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:59:52 -0500 From: Mark Whipple To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, either. Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt boom for the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a few other things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to be painted. All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed kind of cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I realized that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like to sail. The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer in Sweden is out of business. If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt boom) send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but maybe something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most straightforward to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine controls and two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. 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Thanks, Frank Frank Goldsmith S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) Fairview, NC Lake Keowee, SC ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:11:17 -0800 From: Peter Nyberg To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Progress Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mark, Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a Rhodes 22. I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. --Peter > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, either. > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt boom for > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a few other > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to be > painted. > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed kind of > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I realized > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like to sail. > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer in > Sweden is out of business. > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt boom) > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but maybe > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most straightforward > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine controls and > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. I'm > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and could use > the parts. > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > Mark > > Boston, MA > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eAhH7W5LwykGAV7Me4xL4XuTDtiikEZNHtZqrUnlOS8%3D&reserved=0" > target="_blank">20211113_120958.jpg > > href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ZjGNGC93GAvMuBk7%2BX7TWYmFd%2BY6GGcfxBxqOpru%2FVk%3D&reserved=0" > target="_blank">20211113_121058.jpg > > href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment-0002.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=CeEpFQ2T%2FCVLNV34S5Uvus1FkNfLkZJ8VZAUZxqyBq0%3D&reserved=0" > target="_blank">20211213_134325.jpg > > href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment-0003.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Je6LRELphf0U8aGMkhE%2Fgh6KTya%2BvSTGgd7f5isiFrc%3D&reserved=0" > target="_blank">20211213_135557.jpg > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:21:05 -0800 From: Peter Nyberg To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Frank, I don't have an electric motor, and my motor lift system was originally winch powered, not line and pulley. But, the experience with the system I have suggests that there is no inherent reason that it should be too stiff to work with a lighter motor. I'd say the path of least resistance would be to figure out why the existing system doesn't operate more smoothly, and address those issues. Creating some new raising/lowering mechanism would be a big project. --Peter > On 2021-12-14, at 20:37:22 EST, Frank Goldsmith wrote: > > Listmates, > > For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, did you > mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have the GB motor > mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is very stiff to operate > even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, and I?m concerned that a > Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it be lowered. I?d welcome any > input. > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Frank Goldsmith > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) > Fairview, NC > Lake Keowee, SC > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:33:34 -0500 From: Frank Goldsmith To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: <199E1694-D4A9-49B1-9A7C-DCD62F1004F8 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Peter, Thanks. I?m sure you?re right. My motor mount surely needs some attention, as I don?t think it used to be that hard to operate. I?ve tried spraying some lubricant on places where I thought it needed it, but I may have to take off the motor and examine it more closely to see what?s going on. I really don?t want to get involved in replacing the mount with a different kind of system. Best, Frank > On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:21 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > Frank, > > I don't have an electric motor, and my motor lift system was originally winch powered, not line and pulley. But, the experience with the system I have suggests that there is no inherent reason that it should be too stiff to work with a lighter motor. > > I'd say the path of least resistance would be to figure out why the existing system doesn't operate more smoothly, and address those issues. Creating some new raising/lowering mechanism would be a big project. > > --Peter > >> On 2021-12-14, at 20:37:22 EST, Frank Goldsmith wrote: >> >> Listmates, >> >> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, did you >> mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have the GB motor >> mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is very stiff to operate >> even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, and I?m concerned that a >> Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it be lowered. I?d welcome any >> input. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Frank >> >> Frank Goldsmith >> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >> Fairview, NC >> Lake Keowee, SC >> > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:04:13 -0800 From: Shawn Boles To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Frank: I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith wrote: > Listmates, > > For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, > did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have > the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is > very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, > and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it > be lowered. I?d welcome any input. > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Frank Goldsmith > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) > Fairview, NC > Lake Keowee, SC > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:24:02 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Progress Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Wow!, what a lot of work....well done! --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 9:11 PM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Mark, > > Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a > Rhodes 22. > > I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like > there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. > > --Peter > > > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, > either. > > > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt > boom for > > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a > few other > > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine to > be > > painted. > > > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) seemed > kind of > > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I > realized > > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like > to sail. > > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer > in > > Sweden is out of business. > > > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt > boom) > > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but > maybe > > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most > straightforward > > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine > controls and > > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. > I'm > > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and > could use > > the parts. > > > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > > > Mark > > > > Boston, MA > > > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > > > > href=" > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eAhH7W5LwykGAV7Me4xL4XuTDtiikEZNHtZqrUnlOS8%3D&reserved=0" > > > target="_blank">20211113_120958.jpg > > > > > href=" > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ZjGNGC93GAvMuBk7%2BX7TWYmFd%2BY6GGcfxBxqOpru%2FVk%3D&reserved=0" > > > target="_blank">20211113_121058.jpg > > > > > href=" > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment-0002.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=CeEpFQ2T%2FCVLNV34S5Uvus1FkNfLkZJ8VZAUZxqyBq0%3D&reserved=0" > > > target="_blank">20211213_134325.jpg > > > > > href=" > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20211214%2Fbc221164%2Fattachment-0003.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Je6LRELphf0U8aGMkhE%2Fgh6KTya%2BvSTGgd7f5isiFrc%3D&reserved=0" > > > target="_blank">20211213_135557.jpg > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:27:26 -0500 From: Reuben Mezrich To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Frank I put an ePropulsion Nav 3 on the motor mount with the winch and it works fine. The motor weighs about 55 lbs which is less than most gas powered engines. The e80 battery is under the foot of the forward V berth. Stan replaced the 15 gallon water tank with a 5 gallon tank in it fits fine. --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 8:37 PM Frank Goldsmith wrote: > Listmates, > > For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, > did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have > the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is > very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, > and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it > be lowered. I?d welcome any input. > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Frank Goldsmith > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) > Fairview, NC > Lake Keowee, SC > ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:38:37 -0500 From: Frank Goldsmith To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: <6EA04834-DAA8-498A-87A3-318716DC341B at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks, Shawn and Reuben, for your replies. That?s encouraging to hear. Sounds like I first just need to make sure my mount operates freely (both for the motor I have and the one I am pondering getting). Frank > On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Boles wrote: > > Frank: > > I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. > Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. > > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith > wrote: > >> Listmates, >> >> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, >> did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have >> the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is >> very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, >> and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it >> be lowered. I?d welcome any input. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Frank >> >> Frank Goldsmith >> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >> Fairview, NC >> Lake Keowee, SC >> ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:19:20 +0000 From: ROGER PIHLAJA To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mounting an electric motor Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Frank, My guess is the control line that runs thru all those blocks on the motor mount is saturated with salt, algae, or other environmental crud and it?s very stiff. Try washing it, hot, HD cycle with a good laundry detergent, no bleach, and fabric softener. After washing, if the line is still stiff, you may need to soak it in a bucket full of fabric softener solution. While the control line is out, pressure wash the blocks on the motor mount and make sure they spin freely. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Frank Goldsmith wrote: > > ?Thanks, Shawn and Reuben, for your replies. That?s encouraging to hear. Sounds like I first just need to make sure my mount operates freely (both for the motor I have and the one I am pondering getting). > > Frank > >> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> >> Frank: >> >> I have used the original rig for 10 years with my Torqeedo 1003 long-shaft. >> Occasionally I have to jiggle it a little when lowering. >> >> Cheers, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 5:37 PM Frank Goldsmith >>> wrote: >>> >>> Listmates, >>> >>> For any of you who have switched to an electric motor, like a Torqueedo, >>> did you mount it on the same motor mount as your gasoline motor? I have >>> the GB motor mount with the pulleys for mechanical advantage, but it is >>> very stiff to operate even with the relatively heavy 8 HP Tohatsu mounted, >>> and I?m concerned that a Torqueedo would not have enough weight to let it >>> be lowered. I?d welcome any input. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> Frank Goldsmith >>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001) >>> Fairview, NC >>> Lake Keowee, SC >>> > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Rhodes22-list mailing list Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frhodes22-list&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfaf9ed5255864e8ba03108d9bfcd83c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637751711680004484%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ZUx85K9hFu%2FMyHxpGog51ygz1Kh7yKTEv6oDA9Xj%2BuY%3D&reserved=0 ------------------------------ End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4399, Issue 1 ********************************************** From sea20 at verizon.net Fri Dec 17 08:48:31 2021 From: sea20 at verizon.net (sea20 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 13:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons References: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840@mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all,? ? ?I've been trying to find a supplier for replacement rudder pintles and transom gudgeons. The top gudgeon is a three bolt and the bottom a four bolt. The rudder pintles are two bolt with a 2 1/2" yoke, they appear to be short pintles. Does anyone know if these are available?? ? ?60 degrees at the North East River Marina yesterday, wish I hadn't taken the boat out last week ):Thanks all for your awesome information and happy holidays to everyone.Scott & Rebecca, 86' rhodes 22 From rlowe at vt.edu Fri Dec 17 09:09:26 2021 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:09:26 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons In-Reply-To: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Scott, Have you looked at Dwyer's offerings? - Rob https://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=40&cat1Name=Hardware&familyID=24&familyName=Rudder+Fittings Dwyer Aluminum Mast Company- Manufacturers of Quality Sailboat Masts, Booms, Hardware and Rigging Since 1963. DH 393S Pintle For 1-1/4" wide Rudder, with 3/8" Pin for top of Rudder $28.33 : DH 393L Pintle For 1-1/4" wide Rudder, with 3/8" Pin for bottom of Rudder www.dwyermast.com ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Scott E Andrews via Rhodes22-list Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons Greetings all, I've been trying to find a supplier for replacement rudder pintles and transom gudgeons. The top gudgeon is a three bolt and the bottom a four bolt. The rudder pintles are two bolt with a 2 1/2" yoke, they appear to be short pintles. Does anyone know if these are available? 60 degrees at the North East River Marina yesterday, wish I hadn't taken the boat out last week ):Thanks all for your awesome information and happy holidays to everyone.Scott & Rebecca, 86' rhodes 22 From tavares0947 at gmail.com Fri Dec 17 15:24:53 2021 From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:24:53 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons In-Reply-To: References: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Pull out your Rhodes Owner's Certificate and call Stan. Those are custom Rhodes 22 parts only available from General Boats. Don't ask me how I know.... On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 9:09 AM Lowe, Rob wrote: > Scott, > Have you looked at Dwyer's offerings? - Rob > > > https://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=40&cat1Name=Hardware&familyID=24&familyName=Rudder+Fittings > > Dwyer Aluminum Mast Company- Manufacturers of Quality Sailboat Masts, > Booms, Hardware and Rigging Since 1963.< > https://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=40&cat1Name=Hardware&familyID=24&familyName=Rudder+Fittings > > > DH 393S Pintle For 1-1/4" wide Rudder, with 3/8" Pin for top of Rudder > $28.33 : DH 393L Pintle For 1-1/4" wide Rudder, with 3/8" Pin for bottom of > Rudder > www.dwyermast.com > > > ______________________Boatd__________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Scott E Andrews via Rhodes22-list > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons > > Greetings all, I've been trying to find a supplier for replacement > rudder pintles and transom gudgeons. The top gudgeon is a three bolt and > the bottom a four bolt. The rudder pintles are two bolt with a 2 1/2" yoke, > they appear to be short pintles. Does anyone know if these are available? > 60 degrees at the North East River Marina yesterday, wish I hadn't taken > the boat out last week ):Thanks all for your awesome information and happy > holidays to everyone.Scott & Rebecca, 86' rhodes 22 > > From sea20 at verizon.net Fri Dec 17 16:51:47 2021 From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:51:47 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85B28136-E391-41F5-865F-E2B3F961AF21@verizon.net> Thanks guys Scott Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Todd Tavares wrote: > > ?Pull out your Rhodes Owner's Certificate and call Stan. Those are custom > Rhodes 22 parts only available from General Boats. > > Don't ask me how I know.... > > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 9:09 AM Lowe, Rob wrote: >> >> Scott, >> Have you looked at Dwyer's offerings? - Rob >> >> >> https://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=40&cat1Name=Hardware&familyID=24&familyName=Rudder+Fittings >> >> Dwyer Aluminum Mast Company- Manufacturers of Quality Sailboat Masts, >> Booms, Hardware and Rigging Since 1963.< >> https://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=40&cat1Name=Hardware&familyID=24&familyName=Rudder+Fittings >>> >> DH 393S Pintle For 1-1/4" wide Rudder, with 3/8" Pin for top of Rudder >> $28.33 : DH 393L Pintle For 1-1/4" wide Rudder, with 3/8" Pin for bottom of >> Rudder >> www.dwyermast.com >> >> >> ______________________Boatd__________ >> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of >> Scott E Andrews via Rhodes22-list >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons >> >> Greetings all, I've been trying to find a supplier for replacement >> rudder pintles and transom gudgeons. The top gudgeon is a three bolt and >> the bottom a four bolt. The rudder pintles are two bolt with a 2 1/2" yoke, >> they appear to be short pintles. Does anyone know if these are available? >> 60 degrees at the North East River Marina yesterday, wish I hadn't taken >> the boat out last week ):Thanks all for your awesome information and happy >> holidays to everyone.Scott & Rebecca, 86' rhodes 22 >> >> From tavares0947 at gmail.com Fri Dec 17 19:00:56 2021 From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:00:56 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] source for pintles and gudgeons In-Reply-To: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1188265854.1691913.1639748911840@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The widest I have seen online is 2 ?" at Rigrite. Todd T. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:48 AM Scott E Andrews via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Greetings all, I've been trying to find a supplier for replacement > rudder pintles and transom gudgeons. The top gudgeon is a three bolt and > the bottom a four bolt. The rudder pintles are two bolt with a 2 1/2" yoke, > they appear to be short pintles. Does anyone know if these are available? > 60 degrees at the North East River Marina yesterday, wish I hadn't taken > the boat out last week ):Thanks all for your awesome information and happy > holidays to everyone.Scott & Rebecca, 86' rhodes 22 > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 17:20:41 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 17:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I finally got to work and shamelessly copied the changes to the furling and unfurling (outhaul) lines described by Peter in episode 30 ( https://youtu.be/YS1MIEcvkPs) of his S/V Silverheels series and by Jesse in his email of May 19, 2021 and document what I did in the attached. This was all done with the mast and boom standing and the boat at its slip in the water. The modifications to the methods used by Peter and Jesse include: ? widening the existing slot for the furling line to accept a Garhauer exit block rather than creating a new slot for an exit block. The Garhauer has attachment holes at the sides rather than the ends and so it could fit in a widened slot. I used a cutting wheel on a Dremel tool followed by a grinding wheel to widen the slot. ? Butt splicing (end to end splicing) new lines to the existing furling and outhaul lines. Using new longer lines to replace the existing lines would involve taking down the mast which didn?t want to do. I found a nice description of how to make an end to end splice in double braided line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ZpfeyXKZo) on YouTube. The method involves taking out the core and then using a FID to insert one outer braid into the other outer braid. Turns out the strength of double braid is in the outer braid, not the core. The braids don?t slip apart because of the same mechanism that traps your fingers in the ?Chinese Finger Trap? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_finger_trap). One important note: don?t use the simple FID sold by westmarine but rather use a Selma FID that holds one securely as you thread it into the other line. It's available on-line (eg Amazon). The attachment with the images of my setup are in Word format so I hope it is readable Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston Cell: 410-499-8922 On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:29 AM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > Good luck at the races! > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:06 AM Reuben Mezrich > wrote: > > > I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look like > > simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). Having > > few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to go > > with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report on > the > > outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this > week > > (its good to be in Florida!) > > --Reuben > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior summer > > when > > > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I > drilled > > > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to > > avoid > > > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse > for > > > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > > > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood > > screws. > > > > > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece of > > > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by > General > > > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can > > > identify > > > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more > > work, > > > it > > > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's > actually > > > > true. > > > > > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > > > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I think > > I'm > > > > using those terms correctly). > > > > > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > > > > > --Peter > > > > > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal > screws > > > > > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 20:33:39 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:33:39 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Reuben, Thanks for sharing the project. We finally pulled Xenos today. The high was 28 with a 15 knot wind. Too cold here in Kansas. We will try to do the mods before spring sailing. Hope to see you in a month or so. Chris G On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:21 PM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > I finally got to work and shamelessly copied the changes to the furling and > unfurling (outhaul) lines described by Peter in episode 30 ( > https://youtu.be/YS1MIEcvkPs) of his S/V Silverheels series and by Jesse > in > his email of May 19, 2021 and document what I did in the attached. This was > all done with the mast and boom standing and the boat at its slip in the > water. > > The modifications to the methods used by Peter and Jesse include: > > ? widening the existing slot for the furling line to accept a Garhauer > exit block rather than creating a new slot for an exit block. The Garhauer > has attachment holes at the sides rather than the ends and so it could fit > in a widened slot. I used a cutting wheel on a Dremel tool followed by a > grinding wheel to widen the slot. > > ? Butt splicing (end to end splicing) new lines to the existing > furling and outhaul lines. Using new longer lines to replace the existing > lines would involve taking down the mast which didn?t want to do. I found a > nice description of how to make an end to end splice in double braided line > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ZpfeyXKZo) on YouTube. The method > involves taking out the core and then using a FID to insert one outer braid > into the other outer braid. Turns out the strength of double braid is in > the outer braid, not the core. The braids don?t slip apart because of the > same mechanism that traps your fingers in the ?Chinese Finger Trap? ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_finger_trap). One important note: > don?t use the simple FID sold by westmarine but rather use a Selma FID that > holds one securely as you thread it into the other line. It's available > on-line (eg Amazon). > > The attachment with the images of my setup are in Word format so I hope it > is readable > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:29 AM Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Good luck at the races! > > > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:06 AM Reuben Mezrich > > wrote: > > > > > I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look > like > > > simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). > Having > > > few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to > go > > > with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report on > > the > > > outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this > > week > > > (its good to be in Florida!) > > > --Reuben > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < > > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior > summer > > > when > > > > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I > > drilled > > > > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard to > > > avoid > > > > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an excuse > > for > > > > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > > > > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood > > > screws. > > > > > > > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece > of > > > > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by > > General > > > > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I can > > > > identify > > > > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is more > > > work, > > > > it > > > > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's > > actually > > > > > true. > > > > > > > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the forces > > > > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I > think > > > I'm > > > > > using those terms correctly). > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > > > > > > > --Peter > > > > > > > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal > > screws > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 21:26:05 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 20:26:05 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Reuben, thanks for sharing. Glad to hear things came out well. Clever work on the splicing. That is a skill that I have yet to acquire but it is on the endless list of things I want to learn. Chris, are you spending more time in Kansas or will you be heading back to your big boat down South for the winter? Please tell Nick I said hello. It was fun to meet up with him last summer. Jesse Shumaker S/V Zephyr On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 8:33 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Hey Reuben, > Thanks for sharing the project. We finally pulled Xenos today. The high was > 28 with a 15 knot wind. Too cold here in Kansas. We will try to do the mods > before spring sailing. Hope to see you in a month or so. > Chris G > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:21 PM Reuben Mezrich > wrote: > > > I finally got to work and shamelessly copied the changes to the furling > and > > unfurling (outhaul) lines described by Peter in episode 30 ( > > https://youtu.be/YS1MIEcvkPs) of his S/V Silverheels series and by Jesse > > in > > his email of May 19, 2021 and document what I did in the attached. This > was > > all done with the mast and boom standing and the boat at its slip in the > > water. > > > > The modifications to the methods used by Peter and Jesse include: > > > > ? widening the existing slot for the furling line to accept a > Garhauer > > exit block rather than creating a new slot for an exit block. The > Garhauer > > has attachment holes at the sides rather than the ends and so it could > fit > > in a widened slot. I used a cutting wheel on a Dremel tool followed by a > > grinding wheel to widen the slot. > > > > ? Butt splicing (end to end splicing) new lines to the existing > > furling and outhaul lines. Using new longer lines to replace the existing > > lines would involve taking down the mast which didn?t want to do. I > found a > > nice description of how to make an end to end splice in double braided > line > > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ZpfeyXKZo) on YouTube. The method > > involves taking out the core and then using a FID to insert one outer > braid > > into the other outer braid. Turns out the strength of double braid is in > > the outer braid, not the core. The braids don?t slip apart because of the > > same mechanism that traps your fingers in the ?Chinese Finger Trap? ( > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_finger_trap). One important note: > > don?t use the simple FID sold by westmarine but rather use a Selma FID > that > > holds one securely as you thread it into the other line. It's available > > on-line (eg Amazon). > > > > The attachment with the images of my setup are in Word format so I hope > it > > is readable > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:29 AM Jesse Shumaker < > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Good luck at the races! > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:06 AM Reuben Mezrich < > reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they look > > like > > > > simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). > > Having > > > > few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going to > > go > > > > with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report > on > > > the > > > > outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing this > > > week > > > > (its good to be in Florida!) > > > > --Reuben > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < > > > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior > > summer > > > > when > > > > > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I > > > drilled > > > > > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard > to > > > > avoid > > > > > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an > excuse > > > for > > > > > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > > > > > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used wood > > > > screws. > > > > > > > > > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every piece > > of > > > > > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by > > > General > > > > > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I > can > > > > > identify > > > > > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is > more > > > > work, > > > > > it > > > > > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's > > > actually > > > > > > true. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the > forces > > > > > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I > > think > > > > I'm > > > > > > using those terms correctly). > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal > > > screws > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Dec 19 22:14:35 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 21:14:35 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Update on IMF outhaul/furling running rigging changes made over the winter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Jesse, headed to warmer climes in a couple of weeks. Nick says ?hi? back at cha. Chris G Enosis/Xenos On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 8:26 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > Reuben, thanks for sharing. Glad to hear things came out well. Clever > work on the splicing. That is a skill that I have yet to acquire but it is > on the endless list of things I want to learn. > > Chris, are you spending more time in Kansas or will you be heading back to > your big boat down South for the winter? Please tell Nick I said hello. > It was fun to meet up with him last summer. > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 8:33 PM Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > Hey Reuben, > > Thanks for sharing the project. We finally pulled Xenos today. The high > was > > 28 with a 15 knot wind. Too cold here in Kansas. We will try to do the > mods > > before spring sailing. Hope to see you in a month or so. > > Chris G > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:21 PM Reuben Mezrich > > > wrote: > > > > > I finally got to work and shamelessly copied the changes to the furling > > and > > > unfurling (outhaul) lines described by Peter in episode 30 ( > > > https://youtu.be/YS1MIEcvkPs) of his S/V Silverheels series and by > Jesse > > > in > > > his email of May 19, 2021 and document what I did in the attached. This > > was > > > all done with the mast and boom standing and the boat at its slip in > the > > > water. > > > > > > The modifications to the methods used by Peter and Jesse include: > > > > > > ? widening the existing slot for the furling line to accept a > > Garhauer > > > exit block rather than creating a new slot for an exit block. The > > Garhauer > > > has attachment holes at the sides rather than the ends and so it could > > fit > > > in a widened slot. I used a cutting wheel on a Dremel tool followed by > a > > > grinding wheel to widen the slot. > > > > > > ? Butt splicing (end to end splicing) new lines to the existing > > > furling and outhaul lines. Using new longer lines to replace the > existing > > > lines would involve taking down the mast which didn?t want to do. I > > found a > > > nice description of how to make an end to end splice in double braided > > line > > > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ZpfeyXKZo) on YouTube. The method > > > involves taking out the core and then using a FID to insert one outer > > braid > > > into the other outer braid. Turns out the strength of double braid is > in > > > the outer braid, not the core. The braids don?t slip apart because of > the > > > same mechanism that traps your fingers in the ?Chinese Finger Trap? ( > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_finger_trap). One important > note: > > > don?t use the simple FID sold by westmarine but rather use a Selma FID > > that > > > holds one securely as you thread it into the other line. It's available > > > on-line (eg Amazon). > > > > > > The attachment with the images of my setup are in Word format so I hope > > it > > > is readable > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:29 AM Jesse Shumaker < > > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Good luck at the races! > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:06 AM Reuben Mezrich < > > reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've taken out, and replaced, a few screws on the boom and they > look > > > like > > > > > simple sheet metal screws (i.e. threads all the way to the head). > > > Having > > > > > few mechanical skills and with a high degree of laziness I"m going > to > > > go > > > > > with metal screws, probably the "self-tapping" variety. I'll report > > on > > > > the > > > > > outcome. Probably do the work next week since our club is racing > this > > > > week > > > > > (its good to be in Florida!) > > > > > --Reuben > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Jesse Shumaker < > > > > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to tap the threads because of my experience the prior > > > summer > > > > > when > > > > > > I added more small cleats to the bottom of the boom. That time I > > > > drilled > > > > > > pilot holes and used stainless sheet metal screws but it was hard > > to > > > > > avoid > > > > > > stripping them. That inspired me to get a tap and die set (an > > excuse > > > > for > > > > > > more tools!) and give that a try. I may have done more work than > > > > > > necessary, which often seems to be the case :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Peter Nyberg < > peter at sunnybeeches.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's what I did, or I might have even used > wood > > > > > screws. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I probably got the idea that this would be OK because every > piece > > > of > > > > > > > hardware attached to the mast or boom that was put in place by > > > > General > > > > > > > Boats that I have removed was attached by screws, not bolts. I > > can > > > > > > identify > > > > > > > with the notion that because tapping threads into the boom is > > more > > > > > work, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > must be the better solution, but I'm not at all certain that's > > > > actually > > > > > > > true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I don't know if it's significant that in this case the > > forces > > > > > > > applied to the screws (or bolts) would be sheer, not tension (I > > > think > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > using those terms correctly). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps Roger would care to comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2021-12-07, at 18:49:55 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad you mentioned this? I was just going to use sheet mettal > > > > screws > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > > > > > > Cell: 410-499-8922 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dlwelchne at yahoo.com Mon Dec 20 00:40:12 2021 From: dlwelchne at yahoo.com (dlwelchne at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha References: <652877702.2483629.1639978812208.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <652877702.2483629.1639978812208@mail.yahoo.com> All, What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & Corrie Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa folklore was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR staff affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat equipped, and started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others followed. Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and thought why bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and main. As for me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an alternator, and my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The imagination runs wild. My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to upgrade to the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken and Ruth Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse alerted me (I probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I immediately got on the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K round trip drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a loaded Rhodes & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota Highlander with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving the boat all winter and by far the most expensive. Merry Christmas to you all. Dave - s/v Knot at Work (to be renamed) From peter at sunnybeeches.com Mon Dec 20 11:43:34 2021 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 08:43:34 -0800 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha Message-ID: Dave, Congratulations on your new boat (and your excellent taste in boats), and welcome to the list. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On 2021-12-20, at 00:40:12 EST, dlwelchne at yahoo.com wrote: > > All, > What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & Corrie > Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. > When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa folklore > was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR staff > affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat equipped, and > started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others followed. > Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and thought why > bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and main. As for > me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an alternator, and > my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The imagination runs > wild. > My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to upgrade to > the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken and Ruth > Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse alerted me (I > probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I immediately got on > the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K round trip > drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. > Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a loaded Rhodes > & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota Highlander > with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving the boat all > winter and by far the most expensive. > Merry Christmas to you all. > Dave - s/v Knot at > Work (to be renamed) > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 17:05:15 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 16:05:15 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome to the list. You will love your boat! Lots of fun planning over the winter. Chris Geankoplis Enosis/Xenos On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:43 AM Peter Nyberg wrote: > Dave, > > Congratulations on your new boat (and your excellent taste in boats), and > welcome to the list. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On 2021-12-20, at 00:40:12 EST, dlwelchne at yahoo.com wrote: > > > > All, > > What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & > Corrie > > Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. > > When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa > folklore > > was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR > staff > > affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat > equipped, and > > started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others followed. > > Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and > thought why > > bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and main. > As for > > me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an > alternator, and > > my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The imagination > runs > > wild. > > My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to > upgrade to > > the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken and > Ruth > > Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse > alerted me (I > > probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I > immediately got on > > the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K > round trip > > drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. > > Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a loaded > Rhodes > > & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota > Highlander > > with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving the > boat all > > winter and by far the most expensive. > > Merry Christmas to you all. > > Dave - s/v Knot > at > > Work (to be renamed) > > > > From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com Mon Dec 20 19:34:55 2021 From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:34:55 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome Dave! On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:12 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Welcome to the list. You will love your boat! Lots of fun planning over > the winter. > Chris Geankoplis > Enosis/Xenos > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:43 AM Peter Nyberg > wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > Congratulations on your new boat (and your excellent taste in boats), and > > welcome to the list. > > > > Peter Nyberg > > Coventry, CT > > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > > > On 2021-12-20, at 00:40:12 EST, dlwelchne at yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > All, > > > What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & > > Corrie > > > Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. > > > When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa > > folklore > > > was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR > > staff > > > affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat > > equipped, and > > > started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others followed. > > > Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and > > thought why > > > bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and main. > > As for > > > me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an > > alternator, and > > > my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The > imagination > > runs > > > wild. > > > My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to > > upgrade to > > > the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken > and > > Ruth > > > Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse > > alerted me (I > > > probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I > > immediately got on > > > the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K > > round trip > > > drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. > > > Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a > loaded > > Rhodes > > > & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota > > Highlander > > > with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving the > > boat all > > > winter and by far the most expensive. > > > Merry Christmas to you all. > > > Dave - s/v Knot > > at > > > Work (to be renamed) > > > > > > > > From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 19:41:35 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 19:41:35 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome Dave, looking forward to seeing your R22 in the water at Lake Manawa in the spring! On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 7:35 PM Tom Van Heule < tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote: > Welcome Dave! > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:12 PM Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > Welcome to the list. You will love your boat! Lots of fun planning over > > the winter. > > Chris Geankoplis > > Enosis/Xenos > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:43 AM Peter Nyberg > > wrote: > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > Congratulations on your new boat (and your excellent taste in boats), > and > > > welcome to the list. > > > > > > Peter Nyberg > > > Coventry, CT > > > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > > > > > On 2021-12-20, at 00:40:12 EST, dlwelchne at yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > > All, > > > > What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & > > > Corrie > > > > Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. > > > > When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa > > > folklore > > > > was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR > > > staff > > > > affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat > > > equipped, and > > > > started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others > followed. > > > > Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and > > > thought why > > > > bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and > main. > > > As for > > > > me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an > > > alternator, and > > > > my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The > > imagination > > > runs > > > > wild. > > > > My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to > > > upgrade to > > > > the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken > > and > > > Ruth > > > > Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse > > > alerted me (I > > > > probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I > > > immediately got on > > > > the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K > > > round trip > > > > drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. > > > > Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a > > loaded > > > Rhodes > > > > & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota > > > Highlander > > > > with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving > the > > > boat all > > > > winter and by far the most expensive. > > > > Merry Christmas to you all. > > > > Dave - s/v Knot > > > at > > > > Work (to be renamed) > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rodellner at mac.com Mon Dec 20 23:00:29 2021 From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 21:00:29 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha In-Reply-To: <652877702.2483629.1639978812208@mail.yahoo.com> References: <652877702.2483629.1639978812208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ENJOY!! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, dlwelchne--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > ?All, > What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & Corrie Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. > When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa folklore was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR staff affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat equipped, and started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others followed. > Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and thought why bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and main. As for me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an alternator, and my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The imagination runs wild. > My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to upgrade to the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken and Ruth Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse alerted me (I probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I immediately got on the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K round trip drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. > Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a loaded Rhodes & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota Highlander with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving the boat all winter and by far the most expensive. > Merry Christmas to you all. > Dave - s/v Knot at Work (to be renamed) From lgioia at yahoo.com Tue Dec 21 00:39:37 2021 From: lgioia at yahoo.com (Larry Gioia) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 00:39:37 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave, Paula, Congrats on the boat and on joining an incredibly positive, welcoming, & knowledgeable email list. In a world of politics & covid, it?s nice to be part of a community of fun people who share sailing stories, how-to tips, & maintenance projects. I also have an ?86 here in Tampa & a ?14 in upstate NY. If Peter, Roger, & others on this list looked over my ?86 they?d quickly have a long list of items that need doing but it sails just fine on a small lake here - someday I?ll get to those items. Before the 2 Rhodes I also had one of Jopie Helsen?s sailboats - it was a Montego 19. Loved it but no roller-furling jib & no inner-furling main, significant time-savers as I often only have an hour or 2 to sail. I had lunch with Jopie in St Pete back in 2012 or so - what a great guy. His dad & uncles were wooden-boat builders in the Netherlands (Flying Dutchman I think), but Jopie saw that fiberglass was the future after coming to the US in the 60s, and made it happen. A pic from last Saturday afternoon on my ?86 is below, I know we all agree this is what it?s all about. Larry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 84205 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > On Dec 20, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > ?Welcome Dave, looking forward to seeing your R22 in the water at Lake > Manawa in the spring! > >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 7:35 PM Tom Van Heule < >> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote: >> >> Welcome Dave! >> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:12 PM Chris Geankoplis >> wrote: >> >>> Welcome to the list. You will love your boat! Lots of fun planning over >>> the winter. >>> Chris Geankoplis >>> Enosis/Xenos >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:43 AM Peter Nyberg >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dave, >>>> >>>> Congratulations on your new boat (and your excellent taste in boats), >> and >>>> welcome to the list. >>>> >>>> Peter Nyberg >>>> Coventry, CT >>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) >>>> >>>>> On 2021-12-20, at 00:40:12 EST, dlwelchne at yahoo.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & >>>> Corrie >>>>> Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. >>>>> When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa >>>> folklore >>>>> was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR >>>> staff >>>>> affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat >>>> equipped, and >>>>> started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others >> followed. >>>>> Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and >>>> thought why >>>>> bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and >> main. >>>> As for >>>>> me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an >>>> alternator, and >>>>> my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The >>> imagination >>>> runs >>>>> wild. >>>>> My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to >>>> upgrade to >>>>> the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken >>> and >>>> Ruth >>>>> Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse >>>> alerted me (I >>>>> probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I >>>> immediately got on >>>>> the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K >>>> round trip >>>>> drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. >>>>> Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a >>> loaded >>>> Rhodes >>>>> & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota >>>> Highlander >>>>> with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving >> the >>>> boat all >>>>> winter and by far the most expensive. >>>>> Merry Christmas to you all. >>>>> Dave - s/v Knot >>>> at >>>>> Work (to be renamed) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> From mark at whipplefamily.com Tue Dec 21 08:21:44 2021 From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 08:21:44 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Rob. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 9:31 AM Lowe, Rob wrote: > Mark, > The socket for the table is a standard RV type. Here is but one example. > - rob > > > https://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/rv-accessories-for-your-rv-type/pop-up-campers/table-leg-base-flush-mount/ > [ > https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-afxjn/products/61479/images/6246/flush_mount_table_base__62304.1615310764.500.659.jpg?c=2 > ]< > https://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/rv-accessories-for-your-rv-type/pop-up-campers/table-leg-base-flush-mount/ > > > Table Leg Base, Flush Mount - RV Supply Warehouse< > https://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/rv-accessories-for-your-rv-type/pop-up-campers/table-leg-base-flush-mount/ > > > Table Leg Base, Flush Mount. Recessed Round 6 Mounting Holes Strong, > lightweight aluminum mounting hubs. > www.rvsupplywarehouse.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Mark Whipple > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:18 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Progress > > Peter, > > You are correct. To steer I had to stand on the cockpit seats either beside > or behind the wheel. I'm looking forward to having a tiller once again. Now > I just have to patch the big hole in the cockpit sole. By the way, anyone > have a source for the socket that mounts in the cockpit (and cabin) sole to > support the table? > > Also, I've now uncovered what was a significant source of the rainwater in > the bilge: the wheel pedestal. While it may have been sealed to the cockpit > sole at one time, it has clearly been leaking for many years. Oh, and I > just want to say that reaching under the cockpit to remove the bolts for > the pedestal was not fun. At all. > > Thanks, > Mark > > Boston, MA > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 9:11 PM Peter Nyberg > wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > Congratulations. I certainly agree that none of those items belong on a > > Rhodes 22. > > > > I'm particularly puzzled by the wheel. From the pictures, it looks like > > there wasn't room to either stand or sit behind it. > > > > --Peter > > > > > On 2021-12-14, at 18:59:52 EST, Mark Whipple wrote: > > > > > > Today was a great day for my 2001 R22, Luna Mia. Yesterday wasn't bad, > > either. > > > > > > Today I completely removed the wheel pedestal and all of the associated > > > hardware. Yesterday the saildrive engine came out. Next may be the Hoyt > > boom for > > > the self-tending jib, but that may have to wait a bit. I need to get a > > few other > > > things done before trailering my boat from Boston up to central Maine > to > > be > > > painted. > > > > > > All three of these things (saildrive, wheel and self-tending jib) > seemed > > kind of > > > cool and unique when I bought the boat. But after sailing it a bit I > > realized > > > that none of them fit with the kind of boat I wanted and the way I like > > to sail. > > > The big issue with the saildrive is maintenance, since the manufacturer > > in > > > Sweden is out of business. > > > > > > If anyone is interested in any of the three (saildrive, wheel and Hoyt > > boom) > > > send me a direct message. I'm not really interested in shipping, but > > maybe > > > something could be worked out. The Hoyt boom would be the most > > straightforward > > > to install, followed by the wheel pedestal (which comes with engine > > controls and > > > two wheels) and lastly the saildrive, which would be a major project. > > I'm > > > expecting the later will appeal to those who have a Yamaha 15hp and > > could use > > > the parts. > > > > > > Making progress on making the boat my own! > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > Boston, MA > > > > > > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia* > > > > > From sea20 at verizon.net Tue Dec 21 11:09:08 2021 From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 11:09:08 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Rhodes owners in Omaha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings Dave, sounds like a great Christmas delivery. I towed my 86? home from Stan?s last November and had the greatest summer ever. The support from the list and Stan is hard to beat. Scott & Rebecca NERYC Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2021, at 12:39 AM, Larry Gioia viaRhodes22-list wrote: > > ?Dave, Paula, > > Congrats on the boat and on joining an incredibly positive, welcoming, & knowledgeable email list. In a world of politics & covid, it?s nice to be part of a community of fun people who share sailing stories, how-to tips, & maintenance projects. > I also have an ?86 here in Tampa & a ?14 in upstate NY. If Peter, Roger, & others on this list looked over my ?86 they?d quickly have a long list of items that need doing but it sails just fine on a small lake here - someday I?ll get to those items. > > Before the 2 Rhodes I also had one of Jopie Helsen?s sailboats - it was a Montego 19. Loved it but no roller-furling jib & no inner-furling main, significant time-savers as I often only have an hour or 2 to sail. I had lunch with Jopie in St Pete back in 2012 or so - what a great guy. His dad & uncles were wooden-boat builders in the Netherlands (Flying Dutchman I think), but Jopie saw that fiberglass was the future after coming to the US in the 60s, and made it happen. > > A pic from last Saturday afternoon on my ?86 is below, I know we all agree this is what it?s all about. > > Larry > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 84205 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > > > >> On Dec 20, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: >> >> ?Welcome Dave, looking forward to seeing your R22 in the water at Lake >> Manawa in the spring! >> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 7:35 PM Tom Van Heule < >>> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote: >>> >>> Welcome Dave! >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:12 PM Chris Geankoplis >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Welcome to the list. You will love your boat! Lots of fun planning over >>>> the winter. >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> Enosis/Xenos >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:43 AM Peter Nyberg >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dave, >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations on your new boat (and your excellent taste in boats), >>> and >>>>> welcome to the list. >>>>> >>>>> Peter Nyberg >>>>> Coventry, CT >>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) >>>>> >>>>>>> On 2021-12-20, at 00:40:12 EST, dlwelchne at yahoo.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> What a pleasure to join this group. We are members with Jesse & >>>>>> Corrie >>>>>>> Shumaker of the Lake Manawa Sailing Association in Iowa. >>>>>>> When I picked up my first very used cruiser (Helsen 20), Lake Manawa >>>>>> folklore >>>>>>> was that you shouldn?t drop anchor. Yet the Iowa DNR manual and DNR >>>>>> staff >>>>>>> affirmed you could. So I replaced the anchor light, got the boat >>>>>> equipped, and >>>>>>> started anchoring out. (bit.ly/dropping_anchor_deck) Others >>> followed. >>>>>> Paula and I were were impressed with Jesse?s Rhodes 22 research and >>>>> thought why >>>>>> bother reinventing the wheel? My wife is into the furling jib and >>> main. >>>>> As for >>>>>> me, a little dry ice, a massive lazarette, an outboard with an >>>>> alternator, and >>>>>> my professional work that can be done entirely remotely. The >>>> imagination >>>>> runs >>>>>> wild. >>>>>> My first mistake was telling Jesse in the fall that we had decided to >>>>> upgrade to >>>>>> the Rhodes in the 2022 sailing season. A couple weeks after that Ken >>>> and >>>>> Ruth >>>>>> Bates?Portage, Michigan?put their 1986 Rhodes on the market, Jesse >>>>> alerted me (I >>>>>> probably don?t need to tell you the guy?s a trouble maker). I >>>>> immediately got on >>>>>> the phone with the Bates, and was on the road within hours for the 2K >>>>> round trip >>>>>> drive. I came back with the boat and new friends. >>>>>> Of course our 250K Honda Oddysey was short 1K towing weight for a >>>> loaded >>>>> Rhodes >>>>>> & trailer. So my wife is now driving a loaded one owner Toyota >>>>> Highlander >>>>>> with 50K miles. That was the first of the presents we?ll be giving >>> the >>>>> boat all >>>>>> winter and by far the most expensive. >>>>>> Merry Christmas to you all. >>>>>> Dave - s/v Knot >>>>> at >>>>>> Work (to be renamed) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 15:16:09 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 14:16:09 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. Message-ID: Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of losing my links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That plus, well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. Anyway here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and girls of the Rhodes family. Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our Rhodes from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last summer. Enjoy! WEEK 2 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing Chris & Alice Geankoplis SV Enosis From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 16:53:47 2021 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris, thanks for sending the Christmas installment of your Greek adventures. It was entertaining as usual. I'm glad the rotund reindeer, Elsa and Anna, and the tire could save the day when you were being blown onto the dock! Corrie and I are spending this holiday week sailing from Key Largo to Key West on a Morgan 41. We're currently anchored in Newfound Harbor by Ramrod Key and tomorrow we will be going snorkeling at Looe Key. We may stay there overnight on a mooring ball since conditions should be very mild. Perhaps you and others on the list may be familiar with these areas. Hope you all are enjoying the holidays! Jesse Shumaker S/V Zephyr On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 3:16 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of losing my > links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That plus, > well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. Anyway > here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and girls of > the Rhodes family. > Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our Rhodes > from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last summer. > Enjoy! > > WEEK 2 > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > SV Enosis > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20211219_145054.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 902904 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 17:06:54 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:06:54 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Jesse, You picked a fine spot to spend Christmass. I've chartered those Morgan 41's in Mexico and the Vi. Good boat to just hang around on. Glad you are somewhere warm. We don't head south for another 2 weeks. Cherish your time there. Chris & Alice On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > Chris, thanks for sending the Christmas installment of your Greek > adventures. It was entertaining as usual. I'm glad the rotund reindeer, > Elsa and Anna, and the tire could save the day when you were being blown > onto the dock! > > Corrie and I are spending this holiday week sailing from Key Largo to Key > West on a Morgan 41. We're currently anchored in Newfound Harbor by Ramrod > Key and tomorrow we will be going snorkeling at Looe Key. We may stay > there overnight on a mooring ball since conditions should be very mild. > Perhaps you and others on the list may be familiar with these areas. > > Hope you all are enjoying the holidays! > > Jesse Shumaker > S/V Zephyr > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 3:16 PM Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of losing > my > > links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That plus, > > well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. Anyway > > here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and girls of > > the Rhodes family. > > Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our Rhodes > > from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last summer. > > Enjoy! > > > > WEEK 2 > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > > SV Enosis > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20211219_145054.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 902904 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211224/52d0666d/attachment.jpg > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 06:10:01 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 06:10:01 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris Beautiful description of a beautiful voyage. Of course I particularly enjoyed the historical digressions, ranging from the Peloponnesian wars to the Crusades to the liberation from Turkey...fascinating and well told. Shame you couldn't get to Olympus. Wonderful pictures Thank you for this --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 3:16 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of losing my > links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That plus, > well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. Anyway > here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and girls of > the Rhodes family. > Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our Rhodes > from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last summer. > Enjoy! > > WEEK 2 > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > SV Enosis > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 17:44:03 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 16:44:03 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Reuben, Sometimes I think I digress from the history to go sailing. Sort of like ?a hockey game broke out during the fight?. On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 5:10 AM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > Chris > Beautiful description of a beautiful voyage. Of course I particularly > enjoyed the historical digressions, ranging from the Peloponnesian wars to > the Crusades to the liberation from Turkey...fascinating and well told. > Shame you couldn't get to Olympus. > Wonderful pictures > Thank you for this > --Reuben > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 3:16 PM Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of losing > my > > links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That plus, > > well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. Anyway > > here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and girls of > > the Rhodes family. > > Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our Rhodes > > from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last summer. > > Enjoy! > > > > WEEK 2 > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > > SV Enosis > > > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Sun Dec 26 06:18:33 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 06:18:33 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I look forward to hearing about it first hand when you finally get back to Florida Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 5:44 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Hey Reuben, > Sometimes I think I digress from the history to go sailing. Sort of like ?a > hockey game broke out during the fight?. > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 5:10 AM Reuben Mezrich > wrote: > > > Chris > > Beautiful description of a beautiful voyage. Of course I particularly > > enjoyed the historical digressions, ranging from the Peloponnesian wars > to > > the Crusades to the liberation from Turkey...fascinating and well told. > > Shame you couldn't get to Olympus. > > Wonderful pictures > > Thank you for this > > --Reuben > > Reuben Mezrich > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 3:16 PM Chris Geankoplis < > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of > losing > > my > > > links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That > plus, > > > well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. > Anyway > > > here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and girls > of > > > the Rhodes family. > > > Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our > Rhodes > > > from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last summer. > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > WEEK 2 > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > > > SV Enosis > > > > > > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Dec 26 09:43:29 2021 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 08:43:29 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Week 2. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I?m looking forward to it. On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 5:18 AM Reuben Mezrich wrote: > I look forward to hearing about it first hand when you finally get back to > Florida > > Reuben Mezrich > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 5:44 PM Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hey Reuben, > > Sometimes I think I digress from the history to go sailing. Sort of like > ?a > > hockey game broke out during the fight?. > > > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 5:10 AM Reuben Mezrich > > > wrote: > > > > > Chris > > > Beautiful description of a beautiful voyage. Of course I particularly > > > enjoyed the historical digressions, ranging from the Peloponnesian wars > > to > > > the Crusades to the liberation from Turkey...fascinating and well told. > > > Shame you couldn't get to Olympus. > > > Wonderful pictures > > > Thank you for this > > > --Reuben > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 3:16 PM Chris Geankoplis < > > > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Merry Christmas and happy holidays. I wrestled with a problem of > > losing > > > my > > > > links on the PDF's that I send out on the Rhodes in the Med. That > > plus, > > > > well you know, visiting family etc. it has been delayed too long. > > Anyway > > > > here is a Christmas gift from me to all the good little boys and > girls > > of > > > > the Rhodes family. > > > > Below is the link for week two of the trip Alice and I took on our > > Rhodes > > > > from Corfu, NW Greece, to Rhodes Greece, and on to Turkey last > summer. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > WEEK 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2VDWaCEMfzAXKPMU0nWNlKNUZbq6Obl/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > > > > SV Enosis > > > > > > > > > > From daysails at aol.com Mon Dec 27 13:01:18 2021 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> It may come as a surprise to some, especially Stan, that Wikipedia reports that the Rhodes 22 is no longer in production. ?There is actually a lot not to like about their write up of the Rhodes22. ?They rely too heavily on one particular critical review calling into question for example, the practical usefulness of features unique to the boat and its pedigree as a Rhodes designed boat. ?I think the tone is way to evaluative for a Wikipedia entry. From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Mon Dec 27 13:08:14 2021 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 13:08:14 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> References: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So change it. Regards, Rick Lange On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 1:02 PM daysails--- via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > It may come as a surprise to some, especially Stan, that Wikipedia reports > that the Rhodes 22 is no longer in production. There is actually a lot not > to like about their write up of the Rhodes22. They rely too heavily on one > particular critical review calling into question for example, the practical > usefulness of features unique to the boat and its pedigree as a Rhodes > designed boat. I think the tone is way to evaluative for a Wikipedia entry. > From daysails at aol.com Mon Dec 27 15:08:29 2021 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 20:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: References: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1752924331.1389994.1640635709765@mail.yahoo.com> On Monday, December 27, 2021, 01:08:51 PM EST, Rick Lange wrote: So change it. Regards, Rick Lange Hi Rick, I would but I am onboard Second Wind enjoying record breaking warm temperatures here in Georgia ? I thought we might have a historian in the group to take it on. ? On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 1:02 PM daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: It may come as a surprise to some, especially Stan, that Wikipedia reports that the Rhodes 22 is no longer in production.? There is actually a lot not to like about their write up of the Rhodes22.? They rely too heavily on one particular critical review calling into question for example, the practical usefulness of features unique to the boat and its pedigree as a Rhodes designed boat.? I think the tone is way to evaluative for a Wikipedia entry. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 11A80CF6-7A5B-435D-9DA9-F725F038EF14.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1501642 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Joedempsey at hughes.net Mon Dec 27 17:22:58 2021 From: Joedempsey at hughes.net (Joedempsey at hughes.net) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:22:58 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 Description Message-ID: <008301d7fb70$5854cb60$08fe6220$@hughes.net> Does anyone know when Stan laid down the last hull? From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com Mon Dec 27 17:46:23 2021 From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 16:46:23 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 Description In-Reply-To: <008301d7fb70$5854cb60$08fe6220$@hughes.net> References: <008301d7fb70$5854cb60$08fe6220$@hughes.net> Message-ID: I have a 2011, I don't think I've seen past 2014 on mentions since I e been around. On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 4:23 PM wrote: > Does anyone know when Stan laid down the last hull? > > From stan at generalboats.com Mon Dec 27 19:31:42 2021 From: stan at generalboats.com (stan) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:31:42 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: <1752924331.1389994.1640635709765@mail.yahoo.com> References: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> <1752924331.1389994.1640635709765@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> Only occasional emails to the list get through to me these days (never could find out why but suppose that is better for the health of the planet; if I got copies for every Rhodes I own the sun would be blocked) so I am not too clear on what is going on with this thread.? For starters: Re the photo, I know it looks a little like a Rhodes but it is not.? Anyone know who the builder is, I may be due some royalties. stan On 12/27/21 3:08 PM, daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > On Monday, December 27, 2021, 01:08:51 PM EST, Rick Lange wrote: > > So change it. > Regards, > > Rick Lange > > Hi Rick, > I would but I am onboard Second Wind enjoying record breaking warm temperatures here in Georgia ? I thought we might have a historian in the group to take it on. > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 1:02 PM daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > It may come as a surprise to some, especially Stan, that Wikipedia reports that the Rhodes 22 is no longer in production.? There is actually a lot not to like about their write up of the Rhodes22.? They rely too heavily on one particular critical review calling into question for example, the practical usefulness of features unique to the boat and its pedigree as a Rhodes designed boat.? I think the tone is way to evaluative for a Wikipedia entry. > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 11A80CF6-7A5B-435D-9DA9-F725F038EF14.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1501642 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: From ews1esq at yahoo.com Mon Dec 27 21:47:01 2021 From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (Eric Smith) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 21:47:01 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> References: <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> Message-ID: I also noticed that the Wikipedia description has the head and the galley on the port side. Must have not been on the boat or was looking in a mirror? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:31 PM, stan wrote: > > ?Only occasional emails to the list get through to me these days (never could find out why but suppose that is better for the health of the planet; if I got copies for every Rhodes I own the sun would be blocked) so I am not too clear on what is going on with this thread. For starters: Re the photo, I know it looks a little like a Rhodes but it is not. Anyone know who the builder is, I may be due some royalties. > > stan > > >> On 12/27/21 3:08 PM, daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >> On Monday, December 27, 2021, 01:08:51 PM EST, Rick Lange wrote: >> So change it. >> Regards, >> >> Rick Lange >> >> Hi Rick, >> I would but I am onboard Second Wind enjoying record breaking warm temperatures here in Georgia I thought we might have a historian in the group to take it on. >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 1:02 PM daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >> >> It may come as a surprise to some, especially Stan, that Wikipedia reports that the Rhodes 22 is no longer in production. There is actually a lot not to like about their write up of the Rhodes22. They rely too heavily on one particular critical review calling into question for example, the practical usefulness of features unique to the boat and its pedigree as a Rhodes designed boat. I think the tone is way to evaluative for a Wikipedia entry. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 11A80CF6-7A5B-435D-9DA9-F725F038EF14.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1501642 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: > From sea20 at verizon.net Tue Dec 28 08:48:44 2021 From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:48:44 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Shore power inlet References: Message-ID: Happy holidays everyone, Santa left me some shore power supplies. Is there a preferred stern (I back in) location for the power inlet? Thanks Scott & Rebecca Pantalaimon 86? Sent from my iPhone From gramille at tds.net Tue Dec 28 08:57:28 2021 From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:57:28 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> References: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> <1752924331.1389994.1640635709765@mail.yahoo.com> <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> Message-ID: <0926D239-3E6C-48CA-AEDD-D86B1374BB6A@tds.net> Stan , great to hear that you are as chirpy as always! Happy New Year. Graham "SV 00Sailin" > On Dec 27, 2021, at 19:31, stan wrote: > > Only occasional emails to the list get through to me these days (never could find out why but suppose that is better for the health of the planet; if I got copies for every Rhodes I own the sun would be blocked) so I am not too clear on what is going on with this thread. For starters: Re the photo, I know it looks a little like a Rhodes but it is not. Anyone know who the builder is, I may be due some royalties. > > stan > > > On 12/27/21 3:08 PM, daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >> On Monday, December 27, 2021, 01:08:51 PM EST, Rick Lange wrote: >> So change it. >> Regards, >> >> Rick Lange >> >> Hi Rick, >> I would but I am onboard Second Wind enjoying record breaking warm temperatures here in Georgia I thought we might have a historian in the group to take it on. >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 1:02 PM daysails--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >> >> It may come as a surprise to some, especially Stan, that Wikipedia reports that the Rhodes 22 is no longer in production. There is actually a lot not to like about their write up of the Rhodes22. They rely too heavily on one particular critical review calling into question for example, the practical usefulness of features unique to the boat and its pedigree as a Rhodes designed boat. I think the tone is way to evaluative for a Wikipedia entry. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 11A80CF6-7A5B-435D-9DA9-F725F038EF14.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1501642 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: > From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com Tue Dec 28 09:51:59 2021 From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:51:59 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Shore power inlet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mine is starboard on the cabin, aft 3rd window. Straight shot under the companion way to the batteries. Never seen one on the stern. On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:48 AM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Happy holidays everyone, Santa left me some shore power supplies. Is there > a preferred stern (I back in) location for the power inlet? > Thanks Scott & Rebecca > Pantalaimon 86? > > Sent from my iPhone > From daysails at aol.com Wed Dec 29 08:39:24 2021 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 description In-Reply-To: <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> References: <162264256.1353787.1640628078682@mail.yahoo.com> <1752924331.1389994.1640635709765@mail.yahoo.com> <7def9bc5-cd92-89ef-0aa7-947fad0d069f@generalboats.com> Message-ID: <992477595.1755898.1640785164775@mail.yahoo.com> Happy New Year Stan, The thread is about what comes up on Wikipedia when you google Rhodes 22. They state that it is no longer in production. ?My understanding is that if one orders a new one they can get a new one. ?Wikipedia is written by user input so can be changed with validated references. ?They say a lot of good things about the boat, but a point of pride among owners is that it is still in production. ?Another point of pride is that you continue at the helm! ? I took that boat picture a few days ago from my boat. The picture is of Canadian geese with that boat in the background. ?The picture shows up as a blurred closeup of the background. ?I don?t know what model it is but definitely not a Rhodes 22 Joe Riley?Lake Hartwell > From dwbrad at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 15:56:25 2021 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:56:25 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 Description In-Reply-To: <008301d7fb70$5854cb60$08fe6220$@hughes.net> References: <008301d7fb70$5854cb60$08fe6220$@hughes.net> Message-ID: Mine was in 2006. I?m pretty sure he built a new hull for Bill Effort in 2011. Others may know of later ones. Dave B > On Dec 27, 2021, at 5:22 PM, wrote: > > Does anyone know when Stan laid down the last hull? > From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 16:03:11 2021 From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 16:03:11 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 Description In-Reply-To: References: <008301d7fb70$5854cb60$08fe6220$@hughes.net> Message-ID: The HIN on my boat indicates it was built in 2018, but its a "rebuilt" boat and Stan never would tell me when it was originally built. --Reuben Reuben Mezrich Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 3:56 PM David Bradley wrote: > Mine was in 2006. I?m pretty sure he built a new hull for Bill Effort in > 2011. Others may know of later ones. > > Dave B > > > On Dec 27, 2021, at 5:22 PM, < > Joedempsey at hughes.net> wrote: > > > > Does anyone know when Stan laid down the last hull? > > > > From bmg18 at me.com Fri Dec 31 18:14:14 2021 From: bmg18 at me.com (Bruce Greenwald) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 18:14:14 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wikipedia Rhodes 22 Description In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My boat was delivered new in 2014 - not sure when the hull was laid. Bruce Greenwald S/V Ruach Shelter Island NY > On Dec 31, 2021, at 3:56 PM, David Bradley wrote: > > ?Mine was in 2006. I?m pretty sure he built a new hull for Bill Effort in 2011. Others may know of later ones. > > Dave B > >> On Dec 27, 2021, at 5:22 PM, wrote: >> >> Does anyone know when Stan laid down the last hull? >> > From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 18:16:21 2021 From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 18:16:21 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas tank retaining strip attached to the cockpit sole? Message-ID: <0cb901d7fe9c$6ca624e0$45f26ea0$@gmail.com> Happy New Year fellow Rhodies! I have found that my gas tank has a tendency to slide out from under the seat when I'm heeling hard to starboard. I want to install a retaining strip on the cockpit sole to prevent that. I am aware of the more sophisticated solutions that have been documented previously in the forum for installing a metal retaining rod under the seats--I had actually planned on doing that. However, I subsequently found that the 30qt Weathertight Totes from the Container Store (Item # 10050818) don't slip out even when at maximum heal. So I'd rather just install a simple retaining strip for the gas tank. My plan is to first drill larger holes than needed, fill those with thickened epoxy, and then drill through the epoxy to attaching the retaining strip. Does this sound reasonable? Thanks, Mike McKay s/v Liber (2006/2018) Allatoona Lake Acworth, GA From joedempsey at hughes.net Fri Dec 31 22:01:04 2021 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fresh Water Tank Message-ID: